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twin bloom
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Disagree

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Muze, hotba, finale

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#Yikes

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Funny how every pro ever thinks muze is mid

twilit oriole
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Who thinks that

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Give sources

twin bloom
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Everybody

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Muze worst startah on glads

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Sadly

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I saw that

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And I disagree

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Personally

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Damn

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He got muted

gusty rampart
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L

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LMAO

next mesa
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with hotba on toronto

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pog support line doe

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even though twilight is a little overrated

worn falcon
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Pogba

earnest leaf
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imagine if seoul got twilight

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and not creative

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then I would actually rate them highly

next mesa
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They had jjonak

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Who's better mechanically

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Than everyone in the league

earnest leaf
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twilight better at every hero

next mesa
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False

earnest leaf
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cope

next mesa
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Watch his vods

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And watch jjonak vods

worn falcon
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Not on Zen? 🤔

next mesa
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And tell me it's not a team diff

worn falcon
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Twilight S tier Ana, A Bap.

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Haven't seen much of his Zen/Lucio

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Or Brig

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Or Mercy

next mesa
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I have watched ana vods of both and tbh jjonak better mechanics

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Many vods

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Honestly

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I thought twilight would look more

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Cracked

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But nah he was just chilling

earnest leaf
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Twilight simply better

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and has more trophies

worn falcon
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Twilight is cracked, if anything best Ana in league

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Also never forget flanking Twilight on Oasis

tawdry hamlet
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Flanking twilight on junkertown

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Jjonak only looks cracked because his low sensitivity take out his aim and he's dog shit just like ryujehong

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He literally beat alarm in a zen mechanics duel

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He's the best aim in the league (accuracy not speed) his play style is just way better for games like csgo than ow

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Imo

next mesa
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His sens isn't even that low

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What are you talking about

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Do you even watch his vods

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He hits 180 sleeps daily

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Wtf

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Ur tripping

tawdry hamlet
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Because lip is on 800 5.5 Jjonak was like 1000 2.5

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Lip is nearly double

next mesa
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When u compare both vods it looks like twilight has the lower sens

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Lip is lip

tawdry hamlet
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Flex supports historically have lower sensitivities in general

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Then there was aztac last year

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1100 7

tawdry hamlet
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Even izayaki is actually lower sense than jjonak

next mesa
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Anyway

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Jjonak cracked

tawdry hamlet
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But izayaki has enough game sense to not crutch on his mechanics aPES4_NerdRubiksCube

next mesa
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Did lots of adderall

tawdry hamlet
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But no in reality most flex supports imo given a few exceptions could be interchanged entirely mechanically and do just as good I think it's the other aspect of the game that matters since mechanically flex supports are expected to be the best given their heroes

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Like izayaki and shu and violet mechanically prob the same tbh

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But the game sense diff

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Is what matters

worn falcon
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1600x1.55 gang

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On DPS

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Viol2t is cracked, when he doesn't get that ego and feed

tawdry hamlet
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That's what is so wild at the top level mechanically violet ans izayaki jjonak alarm all have just as good aim, it's just their gameplay differences based on ow that matter

worn falcon
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Shu seems boring to me but he does have some wild reactions

tawdry hamlet
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I think shu is a lot more pop off mechanics than he is good player

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Like decay

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Bad player with big mechanics and pop offs

worn falcon
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Then Alarm, man was carrying a dead team

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:(

tawdry hamlet
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Philly

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Went from top 3/4 to getting a star in ever role besides off tank, and then floppin

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That's why I have no faith in London because s4 Philly was bad, and every single person on London is worse than their s4 Philly counterpart

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So it isn't inspiring confidence

worn falcon
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I was wondering if there was some stuff going on Philly, because on paper they were solid

next mesa
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Jjonak gamesense not even bad

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Watch his bap

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Honestly I dig it

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Way more than creative

tawdry hamlet
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I think it was just a bad mesh they took big names from big teams but those big names weren't the best players. Like of the s3 shock rascal was probably far less important than other members, and eqo was B tier at peak and Shockwave was myunbong on dps

next mesa
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God that shit ugly

tawdry hamlet
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And s3 nyxl was a mess so Mano flop isn't even surprising

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Given nyxl history

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And hotba is hotba not that poko would've saved the season lmao

worn falcon
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I wouldn't blame Mano, just something didn't clicked on them

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Mechanically they were good

tawdry hamlet
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Much like funi in contenders they decimated teams that didn't have a basic understanding of the comp then they got minor pushback and fell apart

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Like funi in contenders cumster3d everyone then got dumpstered the second they got minor competition

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Much like Philly in apac

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Rolls one stage faces pushback and loses a round to valiant kek

worn falcon
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Yeh that one with Valiant was a yikes

next mesa
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Or the hitscans

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In a season where hitscan was important

earnest leaf
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players with high senses get a rated a bit too high on their mechanics

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cuz flashy fast movement

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like why people think pine is in the upper tier of hitscans on mechanics

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when in reality most modern day hitscans could probably match or beat him even when looking "slower"

next mesa
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He's not upper tier not even close

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I'd just rather take him than midison

earnest leaf
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I'd take edison over the guy who was benched half of s1

willow tartan
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I would also like to take edison over the guy who hasn't played in 3 years.

earnest leaf
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also I learned today

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apparently shock were scrim gods in s2

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as in never losing scrims unironically outside of a couple

frosty patrol
frosty patrol
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he was Eq "gigachad fusion" o

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in 2018

hot onyx
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I’m back baby (OWLEL)

hot onyx
wispy yacht
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hadi hits those on lan

willow tartan
hot onyx
hot onyx
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Unlike Mano with NineK Mobydik that couldn’t perform at a top 1O level

willow tartan
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mano will come back from military service and be a top tier main tank after getting experience in South Korea's K2 Main Battle Tank

hot onyx
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Does it go into a metroid morph ball?

willow tartan
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no but at least he can play bastion

hot onyx
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Oh goodie, Xepher 2

north relic
hot onyx
north relic
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Is there a way to find you average

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Other than going through every owl

hot onyx
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No, statistics just shows your winrate

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Which is 100% unless you’re Ian

willow tartan
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how do you get an owlel wrong

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impossible unless ur throwing

hot onyx
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He forgot who Valentine was a couple of weeks ago

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Tbf it is hard to remember starting dps in the bottom 5

plush grail
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U suck

sullen berry
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oh

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so discord hates me uploading audio clips 😡

willow tartan
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L

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imagine no perms

vagrant jacinth
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OWLEL 28

plush grail
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owlel pick a relevant player challenge (impossible)

balmy wolf
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that was easy

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3 tries

frosty patrol
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hey ian

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who is valentine

brisk lily
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Is it possible to make a bracket?

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For this year

frosty patrol
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huh?

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you mean like predictions?

brisk lily
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Yes

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Is there like a form or soemthing already existing, or do I just make it myself

willow tartan
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not every team has a full team yet

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wait on that before making a pred s

brisk lily
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Yeah im asking for future reference

willow tartan
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there is no form yet but i will make one when all teams are finalised

frosty patrol
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owl website will have preds closer to the season

brisk lily
willow tartan
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o u mean match preds

frosty patrol
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That’s what I’m assuming he means

brisk lily
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I want to fill out a bracket. So yes, match predictions

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But I need to wait for teams to be finalized

willow tartan
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that wont come out until we actually get a tournament to have a bracket on lol

brisk lily
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I know!!

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I’m asking for future

willow tartan
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they are found in the same place as usual

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OWL website

north relic
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Average od user

frosty patrol
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Imagine being the average od user

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and not an ed user

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LOL

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Justice had enough of the down bad SMMs

north relic
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Lmao

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It was only the loading screen though

willow tartan
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LOL

north relic
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looks like some content creators got ow2 also

vagrant jacinth
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Lmaoo

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Such an xqc thing

north relic
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They should let fissure in ow2

random magnet
balmy wolf
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xqc dumb

vagrant jacinth
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xqc re-signed poggers

devout path
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Could be a marketing thing

north relic
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It’s def a marketing thing

hot onyx
north relic
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Who is Spider-Man and hulk?

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I only know dc

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venom and Batman yk

hot onyx
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Batman is Marvel but ok

frosty patrol
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venom isn’t dc

north relic
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one person understands one person doesn’t

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wait when is karq family feud out

hot onyx
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Mark went onto a talk show to be interviewed about the latest Avengers movie Infinity War and leaked that "this one is really crazy, like ||everybody dies||"

north relic
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I was going to watch it tomorrow

hot onyx
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i used a spoiler tag dumbass

north relic
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I thought it was owlel

hot onyx
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OWL wasn't a thing around that time let alone owlel

north relic
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Wasn’t owl out

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When infinity war dropped

hot onyx
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yeah it did i am mistaken

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debuted January 10th 2018 and infinity war released April 2018

north relic
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L

frosty patrol
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people watching owl instead of infinity war >>>>

north relic
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Did Batman die in infinity war

frosty patrol
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yes

hot onyx
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and Tom started a livestream to show off what he was given access to see involving Avengers Endgame like the official boxart/cover, script etc

north relic
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Ik venom ate Superman in the latest dc movie

hot onyx
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and after sharing it he saw the label on the back that said "private and confidential, do NOT share"

frosty patrol
north relic
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Instead of the front

hot onyx
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just the way the packaging was ig

vagrant jacinth
gray zealot
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Does anyone need a teammate

willow tartan
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Los Angeles Valiant and New York Excelsior both need players, ask them

north relic
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they both have met the 6 man req

balmy wolf
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nyxl get diem?

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please?

hot onyx
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NYXL: Flora Yaki Kellan Myunb0ng GNJ

north relic
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They have six they just didn’t announce it

hot onyx
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Valiant: Diya Innovation Becky Lengsa Coldest

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WooHyal definitely isn’t the off tank

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I typed his name in OWLEL and it wasn’t a valid guess

north relic
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They have six just haven’t announced it

hot onyx
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Alright then

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NYXL stonks slightly higher then

north relic
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diem would be nice but ms and ot would be better

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They already have a top 1 hitscan in flora

hot onyx
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Particularly ms

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Flora overrated

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But still consistent

next mesa
willow tartan
north relic
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moth doesn’t make sense in an all Korean team unless he learned korean on shock

hot onyx
# next mesa It's sasin

Is that an ongoing joke I’m out of the loop on or did they announce it on one of the obscure Chinese sites?

willow tartan
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yes he speaks korean now

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no its jecse

frosty patrol
hot onyx
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Well why the fuck would anyone be high on Valiant with Sasin?

frosty patrol
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source: as part of my ccp job I browse Chinese owl sites for political dissidence

north relic
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Cause silver3

hot onyx
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Hasn’t he been out of competitive OW for 3 years?

frosty patrol
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no

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he was literally in owl season 2 and 3

hot onyx
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I know season 2

frosty patrol
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cracked genji

hot onyx
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Where was he season 3?

frosty patrol
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spark still

hot onyx
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Benched by Ria and QoQ

frosty patrol
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yes

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but cracked at genji sombra tracer etc

north relic
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He isn’t playing those over dps

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The 27 dps spark have

frosty patrol
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valiant you mean

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he’s on valiant

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sasin starting echo becky solo tank

hot onyx
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Dear

frosty patrol
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sasin dps role star

devout path
frosty patrol
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out of context

hot onyx
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Can’t wait for the LA Valiant to prove everyone wrong and place last in apac again

cedar oasis
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No sans

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Fusion will

tawdry hamlet
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Eqo overrated peepoStand

next mesa
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Hehe

worn falcon
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no Sado sponsor this time

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sad

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rip JMac

willow tartan
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calling it now

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he's never making it to the US

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GG rip

worn falcon
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paris in shambles

tidal marsh
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Fellas fellas fellas

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The east west divide in the league kinda sucks

willow tartan
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covid does suck

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however at least it builds hype for the internationals

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top dogs of the east vs gamer bros of the west

trim shadow
willow tartan
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take pelican on a boat to hawaii

north relic
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Paris stocks lower than ever

frosty patrol
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jmac will reach the us and coach from a bubble

north relic
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Virtual coaching is possible but a lot worse

frosty patrol
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not virtual

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jmac coaching structure

frosty patrol
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Alright. All I ask of you is to go outside and socialise with normal functioning human beings so you can finally become one yourself. Stop being an absolute anomaly and weirdo in this OVERWATCH discord server. I get you find it cute or whatever but its honestly cringe as fuck, you are the definition of bitchless, please get some real friends and fill in your empty social life.

hot onyx
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no

cunning patrol
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@twilit oriole Hi

twilit oriole
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@cunning patrol Hi

vagrant jacinth
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Rip paris ZaryaLUL

hot onyx
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its vs Ian but the proudness is still there

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first ever convincing chess win

hot onyx
plush grail
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thats fake fuck you sans

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i was with my gf, not playing chess with u

hot onyx
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dude if i was going to fake it I would say it was against someone slightly more impressive like Uvalo or lsd

plush grail
hot onyx
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if beating me in a luck based version of rock paper scissors makes you feel better about losing in chess then sure

plush grail
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chess is rock paper scissors for virgins

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pokemon is rps for chads

willow tartan
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but i wouldnt call it luck based

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its a percentages game

plush grail
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based memicus

frosty patrol
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Pokemon is a game of making high percentage plays

willow tartan
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that is literally what i just said

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thank you for providing your insight

keen plume
hot onyx
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can't wait for my dunsparce to get fucked by your landorus

frosty patrol
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It’s 65% swaps in high elo

frosty patrol
hot onyx
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exactly

frosty patrol
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Sans wrong

hot onyx
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swapping out whenever your type matchup is incorrect sucks

plush grail
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im gonna read sans like a fucking book

hot onyx
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  • crits
frosty patrol
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it’s not just type matchup

hot onyx
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up until the final boss in every pokemon game you can win based on positive type matchups

plush grail
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wow

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its almost like

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thats the idea of a pokemon game

willow tartan
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you can win based off of anything in the pokemon games lol

hot onyx
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exactly it just feels easy and bland

willow tartan
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idk how that has anything to do with pvp though

hot onyx
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but I'm not an rpg fan

plush grail
hot onyx
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i prefer games that require you to stay awake to play

plush grail
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chess OMEGALUL

hot onyx
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you're the one that lost

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to me

frosty patrol
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comp pokemon requires a lot of intelligence, decision making, and knowledge

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especially in team building

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and knowing sets and what your checks are to them

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running enough EVs to live certain shit

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etc

hot onyx
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6 Gengars is enough

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maybe a Darumaka

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incase they have a grass type

plush grail
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sans

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ur dumb

hot onyx
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not really

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i fell asleep playing through Omega Ruby

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made it to the 5th-6th gym before feeling left unsatisfied and quitting to play 3D Land

balmy wolf
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im bout to get fucked by urumir

frosty patrol
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any scores to report that aren’t in the doc?

north relic
frosty patrol
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3-1*

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that’s fake news you posted

north relic
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I blundered my queen first game

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It was very sad

raw ermine
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I trapped my horsey against levy,
I would have 3-0'd them if it weren't for that

frosty patrol
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duna is coming back

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the NA conference is fucking stacked

next mesa
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and i would've won

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if i was playing

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🗿

frosty patrol
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levy addi dunamis danxv lsd me jazzy and who the fuck did I forget

next mesa
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nah im not playing

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maybe after may

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when my exam is done

frosty patrol
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kungarnamykl

frosty patrol
north relic
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Chess league > exams

vagrant jacinth
next mesa
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my exam is liek 100 dollars

north relic
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Tomorrow

next mesa
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not gonna bomb it

north relic
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I do exams without paying

next mesa
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what can i say im a corporate save

worn falcon
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what the hell

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who pays for exams

north relic
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Masochists

next mesa
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ap

balmy wolf
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im getting rolled

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omfg

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that was

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emberassing

worn falcon
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Lichess?

next mesa
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lichess only

keen plume
keen plume
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Hey, in Week1 "Ian" and me need to play. Who's that?

plush grail
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ME

keen plume
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YOu? Are u sure?

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Wanna play now?

plush grail
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No I'm gonna take a shower, cry and think about all of the mistakes I have made in m

keen plume
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ok.

plush grail
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WHY

balmy wolf
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;)

north relic
frosty patrol
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urumir is realistically number 2 in the league

keen plume
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who is nr1?

frosty patrol
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EU’s only competition

frosty patrol
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absolute madman

balmy wolf
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im bad

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not very bad

frosty patrol
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marbel is top 2 eu

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which scares me

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given he’d be like 6th na

north relic
willow tartan
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EU is a dead region

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only KR and CN matter

frosty patrol
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his competition is uvalo and sans @north relic

twin bloom
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Trust

willow tartan
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ah of course the greats like..

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NA overwatch has made more valorant players than overwatch ones troel

twin bloom
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NA has greats like Hawk, nero, space, supah, rokit, aspire, ojay, uv, and etc

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Trust

willow tartan
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i bet this channel has talked more chess than the rest of the server combined

north relic
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@hot onyx there are stats for your guesses

frosty patrol
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no shot you called

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rokit nero hawk aspire ojee uv greats

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the only valid greats on that list are space and super

tropic herald
hot onyx
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Also failing to name the decent AT player Reiner is kind of cringe

frosty patrol
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not knowing who rokit is

twin bloom
twin bloom
twin bloom
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Every playah on AT da goat

frosty patrol
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space is

twin bloom
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He is

frosty patrol
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great is like, career achievement

hot onyx
twin bloom
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I disagree

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Personally

hot onyx
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O2 Blast is better that’s a given

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Talon and T1 is subject to debate

frosty patrol
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Space is a great because he's been around for so long and successful multiple times while always being a relatively good ot

twin bloom
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Nobody knows what o2 blast is

next mesa
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they'd be on t1 level

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imo

twin bloom
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Everyone knows da AT

frosty patrol
hot onyx
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Hard dps and off tank diff for T1 but a harder main tank and support gap for AT

worn falcon
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02 Kariv

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whomegalul

twin bloom
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Wait is O2 blast da team propah carried

worn falcon
frosty patrol
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he didn't even carry o2 blast

frosty patrol
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that team had finn

twin bloom
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Propah carried

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Nobody knows about o2 blast

hot onyx
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O2 had good players, not just Proper

twin bloom
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Everyone knows about

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Propah

frosty patrol
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finn is the 3rd best rookie flex support prospect of the last 3 years

hot onyx
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You’re the type of guy that only watches American Tornado and when you watch your second pro ow game you think “man I’m getting real American Tornado vibes from the 2021 Dragons

twin bloom
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Proper is better than finn on fs

twin bloom
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AT and shd very simmilar

worn falcon
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smh Kariv

hot onyx
twin bloom
willow tartan
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because being misconstrued is never good

hot onyx
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“Yeah guys I don’t watch any other contenders teams over than the ones that dominate weak regions, can’t wait for Ground Zero Gaming to pop off in OWL”

willow tartan
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you should always take your due diligence in clearly stating your opinion

twin bloom
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I don't care about o2 blast I just watch proper vods

hot onyx
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Maybe check out Apr1ta and MN3

twin bloom
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Nobody knows who apr1ta is

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I know about mn3

willow tartan
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maybe you should be less ignorant then

hot onyx
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Also you don’t speak for everyone chump

next mesa
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apr1ta

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godly

twin bloom
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Name a single soul who knowx apr1ta

next mesa
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player

twin bloom
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Not a single soul

cloud latch
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me

twin bloom
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Knows

hot onyx
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Me

twin bloom
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That doesn't count

cloud latch
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bro

twin bloom
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Discord users not real people

hot onyx
twin bloom
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I'm not real either

hot onyx
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“Honey, the AT apologist is saying that KR and CN contenders players that aren’t Proper are irrelevant, should we listen to him?”

twilit oriole
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“No,he’s brain dead son”

twin bloom
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Not as relevant as propah

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Tho

twilit oriole
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What if proper flops

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What happens then

twin bloom
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Vigilantee

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Also

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Relevant

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And propah

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Won't

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Flop

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Trust

lost thicket
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fun fact

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all Venezuelan players are supports

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Cabimas, dhaK and PAPO are all supports and mixed players

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also Crumbz is the only Venezuelan Caster ever, also mixed

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so two Canadian-Venezuelans, one Chilean-Venezuelan and one Spanish Venezuelan

twin bloom
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Ok

lost thicket
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all of this came from me wanting to learn who was on Shock S1 and where they were in standings lmao

hot onyx
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And FiNN and Kellan and Zest

twin bloom
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Heesang relevant but i am talkin about owl

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Every otha player

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Irrelevant

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Imo

frosty patrol
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and vigilante and finn and unique and superrich and irony and pineapple and alphayi and lige and stalk3r and apr1ta, etc

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there's a few whomegaluls yeah

hot onyx
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You can’t just call good players irrelevant because you don’t like them or don’t know them

frosty patrol
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like finale ow

hot onyx
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When they’re not good like Innovation or Victoria that’s fine

frosty patrol
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innovation is good situationally

twin bloom
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Irony also relevant

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2nd best rookie Korean FS

frosty patrol
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3rd*

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vigilante finn

twin bloom
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Who is finn

frosty patrol
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who is finn

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stop posting

twin bloom
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Finn from AT(show)

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???

frosty patrol
#

finn from o2

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2nd best player on that team

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proper finn carry

twin bloom
#

Who I only know proper

hot onyx
#

Tbf Irony being second best rookie fs is a hot take but it’s one that could come true

#

But not knowing FiNN

frosty patrol
#

or irony being a god

twin bloom
#

It goes
UVEE
VIGILANTEE
PROVIDE
MAJED
IRONY
NO ARGUMENT

#

This is right

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I will be right

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Imo

frosty patrol
#

prov1de over irony

twin bloom
#

Irony maybe

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Bettor

hot onyx
#

Pr🤮v1de over Irony and Majed

twin bloom
#

Irony is a generational talent

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But

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Has some

frosty patrol
#

majed is possible @hot onyx

twin bloom
#

Issues with his play

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That changoon

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Will fix

hot onyx
#

And Pr🤮v1de is the worst looking flex support player coming into the league

twin bloom
#

I disagree

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Worst is skairipa

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Or aimgod

cunning patrol
#

skairipa is hot

twin bloom
#

Who is skairipa

hot onyx
#

When I take Coldest Crimzo or Majed over them, they’re horrible

cunning patrol
#

uvs superior

twin bloom
cunning patrol
#

he isnt

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hes bad

twin bloom
#

Held back by the eu region

hot onyx
twin bloom
#

Whats british hurricane

#

Irrelevant team

hot onyx
#

Your opinion is irrelevant if you think that Pr🤮v1de was a better pickup than Skairipa or Exorath

twin bloom
#

Ok

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I disagree

cunning patrol
#

Yeah exorath is a great player!

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Very good!

twin bloom
#

Pr❤️ vide

twin bloom
cunning patrol
#

Wdym he’s so good!

twin bloom
#

Players like landon

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Better

hot onyx
#

Landon is still better than Pr🤮v1de

cunning patrol
#

Exorath just not very good but that’s just my take

twin bloom
#

I don't think landon is better than Pr❤️ v1de

#

Imo

cunning patrol
hot onyx
twin bloom
hot onyx
cunning patrol
#

Yes that is all viol2t did

twin bloom
#

He also was accused of racism to chinese

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People

cunning patrol
#

Be mean to people in ranked

twin bloom
#

Lol

hot onyx
#

Didn’t know that but now my low opinon on Viol2t as a person is lower

twin bloom
#

Fair

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Personally

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I just rate people on skill

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Impossible to know how they are as people

hot onyx
#

That got removed

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I’ll take that as a warning

twin bloom
#

What did?

hot onyx
#

Saying “unless there are screenshots of them calling their coach” and what he called the coach in a spoiler tag

twin bloom
#

Ok.

burnt anchor
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i come in and the first thing i see is some knucklehead trash talking provide wtf

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provide has decent potential not the best but worthy of league

twin bloom
#

Agree

hot onyx
#

Gotta add the “1”

burnt anchor
#

prov1de

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happy

hot onyx
#

Yeah because Provide isn’t in the league

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Pr🤮v1de is

burnt anchor
#

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP

hot onyx
#

Also there are other flex supports that deserve their chance to be in the league more than Pr🤮v1de

twin bloom
#

Yeah people like pascal landon exohrathh

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Way bettor

hot onyx
#

And Boombox redemption arc

twin bloom
#

Than pr❤️ vide

cunning patrol
#

Flex supports are the best at racism

hot onyx
#

Not even top 2 in NA Contenders

cunning patrol
#

Mcd viol2t and provide

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Such a talented role

hot onyx
#

If we’re including it as overall toxicity might as well add Bdosin and Jehong

trim shadow
twin bloom
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Prolly not

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But FS

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Carry

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Potential

hot onyx
#

And Pr🤮v1de does not have said carry potential

trim shadow
#

Fs is probably second most important role in 5v5

twin bloom
#

Respectfully disagree

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Look at worst case scenario

trim shadow
#

Ms fs dps tank come at me Kekw

hot onyx
#

Sad that Hadi has to crumble under yet another bottom 3 flex support

twin bloom
#

Provide is slightly worse than kaan

north relic
twin bloom
#

Lmao

hot onyx
#

Honestly if London had Exorath Yiquids and FDGod I’d rate them above bottom 3

trim shadow
#

Well yes its not 6v6 where the ms is mostly just shot calling the ms will probably healing more heavenly and more valuable since everyone is probably much more mobile with a much wider range of aoe and damage abilities

worn falcon
#

ez stomp

north relic
#

i will def be awake during those matches

hot onyx
trim shadow
#

But this is blizzard so idk exactly how ms will work but if its 5v5 then which hero having the heaviest healing is ms

willow tartan
#

oh wait

north relic
willow tartan
#

it is 24 game now

north relic
#

average shanghai fan

willow tartan
#

it only mean im see you get stomped more

north relic
#

no

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nyxl will dominate the NA region

willow tartan
#

hahahaa

worn falcon
#

you mean Defiant

north relic
#

they beat shanghai in midseason tourney tbh

worn falcon
#

Pogba gonna carry Defiant.

hot onyx
#

If he remains consistent yes he will

north relic
#

nah

#

hotba is decent but not carrying when you look at defiants support line

willow tartan
#

hotba consistent player

north relic
#

defiants support line is very hot

hot onyx
#

Hotba went from being bottom 5 to top 8

trim shadow
#

I remember when hotba. Popped off the first 3-5 games last year and proceeded to disapear

hot onyx
#

Mano went from top 7 to bottom 8

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Hotba with good coaching

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It’s only up from here

willow tartan
#

at least is not mixed so can't fuck it up

north relic
#

and go to a whomegalul team

willow tartan
#

bad teams devalue your player stonks

worn falcon
#

Imagine going to Paris or something

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you look for some mid team

#

Because the top teams were full

north relic
#

or defiant just had the bag

trim shadow
#

Its cause kdg

#

And probably moby

worn falcon
#

I mean Dallas, Shock, Glads were full

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Ratlanta probs impossible

north relic
#

chorong to shock

willow tartan
#

ya

north relic
#

i hope that never happens

worn falcon
#

Toronto was the option

trim shadow
#

Ratlanta u little shit lmao

worn falcon
#

Because under that is just trash

willow tartan
#

no but don't u remember

#

chorong was sign early

north relic
#

chorong and twilight

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were both early

#

just bag imo

willow tartan
#

Toronto won the bid war I guess

#

I mean I think Toronto right now is fine team anyway

#

Heesu, twilight, muze

worn falcon
#

Toronto got 3 years contract

north relic
#

is toronto support line top 3?

willow tartan
#

haha as if Toronto keeps players

#

nah

worn falcon
#

top 1

willow tartan
#

top 3 is Shanghai Chengdu and Los Angeles

north relic
#

i forgor LA

random magnet
#

Atlanta #1

trim shadow
north relic
#

defiant can be better than chengdu's support line

worn falcon
#

which LA we talking?

#

Valiant?

willow tartan
#

not good teams mean have money

north relic
#

glads support line is so good

willow tartan
worn falcon
#

coldest and legsa top 1 support

north relic
#

if its traditional than defiant

#

chengdus has more flexibility

worn falcon
#

wait, valiant still not have a tank?

willow tartan
#

I just think that yveltal Nisha farway mmonk is more well rounded and versatile than twilight chorong

worn falcon
north relic
worn falcon
willow tartan
#

NYXL also only 5 player

north relic
willow tartan
#

I say Toronto better if yveltal got manga debuff

north relic
#

well one piece is on a hiatus

#

so yveltal should be good

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actually its just the anime

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nvm

willow tartan
#

Gg Chengdu loses to seoul

worn falcon
#

NYXL at least is full

#

they can sign Mano again

north relic
#

we have kellan

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we dont need mano

#

also he is in military

#

so unless he stops mid war to play overwatch

worn falcon
#

seems NYXL gonna stick with those 5

north relic
#

no

#

every team has 6

worn falcon
#

who are gonna hire?

#

Fissure?

north relic
#

are you trolling

#

they have a MT

worn falcon
#

a 2TP MT

#

grab f4ze then

trim shadow
#

I completely forgot myunbong and gangnamjin were on the same support line and that could he nasty

#

Be*

north relic
#

how good is shanghai in double FS

#

i feel like thats their only weakness if bebe sucks

worn falcon
#

Bebe

#

LMAO

north relic
#

nyxl support line is top 5 in double FS

twin bloom
#

🤣

north relic
twin bloom
#

Ok

#

Shock gladiators fuel atlanta titans london paris wahington mayhem toronto bostone houston

#

Shanghai

#

Spark

#

Charge

#

Valiant

north relic
#

?

#

actual troll

vagrant jacinth
#

Yes

twin bloom
#

Let me finish

#

Fusion

#

Who else is a team

#

In overleague watch

#

Their better than NYXL

#

In double FS

#

Imo

vagrant jacinth
#

Gangnamjin + myungbong would fucking pound in double fs

twin bloom
#

They won't

#

Thats like saying roolf ripa

#

Would pound

#

In double fs

vagrant jacinth
#

Nothing like that

frosty patrol
#

shock yes glads yes justice probably hunters yes

#

that's it

twin bloom
#

It is everything like that

vagrant jacinth
#

Not at all

frosty patrol
vagrant jacinth
#

Literally anyone is better than roolf

#

They have shit takes, it's been proven time and again

#

You could literally pick up some shitter from this discord and they could outperform roolf

frosty patrol
#

nah

#

that's a stretch

north relic
frosty patrol
#

glads it depends really

#

I prefer their bap zen

#

for example[

#

but if there's anything weird as hell

#

like ana bap

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or something

#

give me nyxl

willow tartan
frosty patrol
#

most double fs comps I prefer glads

#

double flex bap zen meta could be ok for shanghai

#

just have ljg get boosted by mechanics on bap

willow tartan
#

it has been fine for them in the past

frosty patrol
#

yep

north relic
frosty patrol
#

krillin is mid

#

vigilante is pretty good

#

not much else to say

#

depends on how pretty good vigilante is

north relic
#

houston double FS looks decent also

#

idk about higher than nyxl though

#

houston bap zen

#

sounds good

next mesa
#

guys creative was being held back by anamo right? he's actually s tier

north relic
#

he also had tobi the year before

worn falcon
#

now he have tobi as coach

frosty patrol
#

i forgot about houston

#

they're on there too

worn falcon
#

houston be like

#

The role he needs to fill is Tank now

cedar oasis
#

he has to be good first

worn falcon
#

Jake MT ready

north relic
#

im t500 tbh

cunning patrol
#

wait i see my friend on that

#

LOL

tropic herald
north relic
tropic herald
#

3.4K

north relic
#

its combined sr ok

#

iim 3700 tank support

lost thicket
twin bloom
#

I mean he probably knows a little korean but that doesn't mean he's fluent

#

Lmao

lost thicket
#

also

#

how many dubs will Dallas get

#

(Yes this is from their twitter)

cedar oasis
#

every dub

#

dallas wont lose

#

unless its like ball double sniper

north relic
#

(yes very hot take dallas is a top team)

cloud latch
#

22 wins my guess

north relic
#

imma say 21

noble nexus
#

I don't think they'll get that many tbh

#

glads shock and maybe nyxl are close I think

#

but defiant outlaws and reign can upset

worn falcon
#

Vancouver gonna slap Dallas

noble nexus
#

CHA RUE KING

north relic
#

dallas is #1 NA imo

twin bloom
cloud latch
north relic
#

i feel like shock is too new

#

screenshotted for later use

twin bloom
#

Glads would be #1

#

If the coaches trusted

#

Kevsters opinnion

#

On dps partners

#

But sadly they did not

hot onyx
#

Respectfully disagree

#

On almost every level, individual and coaching, Glads diff Reign

#

Regardless of your opinion on OJEE and UV they don’t compare to Fastro Shu, even without throwing Skewed into the mix

twin bloom
#

Da ojay uv synergy make up for the minimal skill gap

hot onyx
#

minimal 💀

cloud latch
hot onyx
#

From the mindset of an NA Nutcase, OJEE UV could be like 8th best if they had good coaching

#

But no Unter

twin bloom
#

I think they are top 3 potentially top 1

cloud latch
#

nahhhhh

#

wait list your top 3 support lines

twin bloom
#

Fastro shu

#

Shanghai supps

#

Atl

cloud latch
#

is that in order?

hot onyx
#

You admitted to believing half of contenders Kr and CN irrelevant

twin bloom
#

No

hot onyx
#

Why does your opinion matter again?

cloud latch
# twin bloom No

well it might be the correct top 3 if those were the only teams in the league

north relic
#

MAN WHY CANT OWL JUST START SO REIGN LOVERS CAN EAT SHIT

twin bloom
#

I am non biased

hot onyx
#

You forgot CH0R0NG Twilight existed

twin bloom
#

They are 4th best

hot onyx
#

If FiXa can diff OJEE so can CH0R0NG

#

On brig

twin bloom
#

Fixa has never diffed ojay ever. Match results don't tell the whole story

#

Because if they did

#

Roolf would be better than

#

Myunbong

#

Roolf 3-0d myunbongs team 3 times

cloud latch
twin bloom
#

In 2 seasons

hot onyx
#

Roolf wasn’t better than Myunbong

#

Fire was better than Faith once tho

twin bloom
twin bloom
cloud latch
#

???

twin bloom
#

They would be top 5

cloud latch
#

they have fielder???

twin bloom
#

Who is that

hot onyx
cloud latch
#

good joke

twin bloom
#

Fielder is a 2 play

#

Moira ana

hot onyx
#

Changsik performed better than StandDumb

twin bloom
#

Real

#

Stand 1 is awful

#

And frdwnr is better than punk

#

If frd had a better team

#

People would agree

hot onyx
#

Please don’t give FRDWNR copium

#

People are bottom 3 off tanks for a reason

gusty rampart
#

FRD is ass

#

Punk better

twin bloom
#

Look FRD benched Daco and brough reign to mew heights

#

Got benched by a great

gusty rampart
twin bloom
#

Like hawk

hot onyx
#

And where is Daco now?

twin bloom
#

And than wen't to shit team

#

Frd is a SOLID c tier OT

gusty rampart
#

If you think Reign did good 2020 I want whatever you're smoking

hot onyx
#

It’s like replacing Pr🤮v1de with Exorath

twin bloom
#

Not da worst

#

Not da best

gusty rampart
#

Mid to Below Mid

hot onyx
#

Slightly better performance and better human

twin bloom
#

It's like saying aztac sucks

#

Because he was benched for lastro

#

On a mid team

hot onyx
#

Aztac didn’t get a chance to prove himself

twin bloom
#

Frd gapped a great like meko

hot onyx
#

FRD did and he proved to be low/bottom

twin bloom
#

In the one game ve played

#

Against houston in s3

hot onyx
#

Meko was washed in season 3???

gusty rampart
#

Houston was like a bottom 3 team

hot onyx
#

What is your argument

twin bloom
#

And then wen't to a team with fire roolf backline

#

So sad

#

Couldn't do anything

hot onyx
#

Honestly

gusty rampart
#

Teru

hot onyx
#

I am so excited for the day you post your power rankings

gusty rampart
#

Now there's a player who's been robbed

#

Man is fucking insane

twin bloom
gusty rampart
#

You're capping

#

Hard capping

twin bloom
#

Dalton deadlifted titans on tracer

#

In their one win

gusty rampart
#

6k dry blade on Glads LUL

twin bloom
#

He had one good play

#

Dalton had one good game

gusty rampart
#

He was consistently a good FDPS

twin bloom
#

See the difference

hot onyx
#

Teru was consistently good though

#

And the same argument can be used