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plush grail
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go join owl viewing party and laugh at sans sombra

willow tartan
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Seoul Dynasty loses to a man with 150 ping

frosty patrol
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(pelican got a punctured lung and still looked top 3)

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pelican, void or hanbin and lip shouldve been mvp top 3

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tbh

alpine sparrow
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Pelican?

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Where did he come from

willow tartan
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(all of the Shanghai Dragons should have been MVP candidates) troel

willow tartan
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he goes on to win rookie of the year

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and somehow not get a rolestar

alpine sparrow
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So all ogs gone

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And new talent

willow tartan
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nah

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jjonak still in

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super still in

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carpe still in

alpine sparrow
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Yeah those names I know

willow tartan
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Fate is also still there

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uhh who else is from s1

alpine sparrow
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Chipsa?

willow tartan
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he is s3

alpine sparrow
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True

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But he streamer

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Like og overwatch

willow tartan
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he has a 100% owl winrate

alpine sparrow
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He did really well then

willow tartan
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yes.

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lets call it that

alpine sparrow
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Ohh saya?

willow tartan
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He is in valorant now

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the playoffs there is nothing much to speak of

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leave wins mvp

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atlanta 1 tricks rush to the finals

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chengdu literally has one of their players actively throw playoffs match

alpine sparrow
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Wait

willow tartan
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and shanghai dragons get the rematch sweep on shock and dominate their way to the finals

alpine sparrow
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I remember that happening before too

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Dafran threw?

willow tartan
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no

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yveltal is throw

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he wasthcing anime and read manga or something

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during scrim

alpine sparrow
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Got kicked out prolly

willow tartan
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causing chengdu to lose their rightfully 3rd place

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he was resigned

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atlanta v shanghai final

alpine sparrow
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Shanghai wins?

willow tartan
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yes

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shanghai blow them out 3-0

alpine sparrow
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Wait does the jehong guy play still?

willow tartan
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then they cut to a 30 minute break

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for ow2

willow tartan
alpine sparrow
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Ohh wasnt he like god ana?

willow tartan
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ya

alpine sparrow
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Weird that they all stopped

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Oh surf?

frosty patrol
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do you mean swimmer?

alpine sparrow
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Surfeour?

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Something like that

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The blond hair guy

north relic
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Surefour

frosty patrol
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surefour is now full time streamer man

alpine sparrow
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Deemm

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He gone too

frosty patrol
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players still here from season 1

north relic
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Carpe super

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Fleta profit

alpine sparrow
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Diem too?

north relic
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I forgot the rest

balmy wolf
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diem is lft

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i think

frosty patrol
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anamo fate space kalios striker aimgod void poko carpe fury profit fleta whoru jake super danteh architect fearless diya

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that’s it

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from s1

alpine sparrow
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Ooo

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Architect

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He good

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Poko is so friendly guy tooo

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Lot of fusion players

balmy wolf
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he is washed

alpine sparrow
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Oh rip

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Water?

frosty patrol
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architect is still good at 4 heroes

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doom bastion reaper junk

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none of which are viable

alpine sparrow
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Wasnt he genji main

frosty patrol
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he’s becoming a silly hero specialist

frosty patrol
alpine sparrow
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Ohh sad

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Isnt jake washed too?

frosty patrol
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jake is a coach who is on the roster for

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reasons

alpine sparrow
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Weird?

frosty patrol
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yes

balmy wolf
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why did nyxl have wo many dps with f in 2021

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wait

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did they haglve flower in 2021?

alpine sparrow
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Best widow

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Omg

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Linkzr?

vagrant jacinth
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I think flower was 2019

balmy wolf
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probably fits

alpine sparrow
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Linkzr finnish hope

vagrant jacinth
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I think everyone in the scene's an alarm fan

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I do like dinkzr, chill guy

alpine sparrow
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Tough world we live in

vagrant jacinth
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Yeah..

frosty patrol
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best widows are kai ans fits

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not in any order

vagrant jacinth
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Kai is sick

alpine sparrow
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I hope they fixed the mental health thingy

frosty patrol
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our lord has fallen

vagrant jacinth
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F

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From moderator to muted

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What a fall

alpine sparrow
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How

frosty patrol
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we must rebel against this injustice

vagrant jacinth
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Lmao

hot onyx
vagrant jacinth
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What happened

frosty patrol
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idk

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he got shot by mods though

vagrant jacinth
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Rip in peace

twilit oriole
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I’m gonna get muted once I send this message just watch it always happens(maybe not this time bc I got it pretty fast)

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Okay I didn’t get muted

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We’re good😁

alpine sparrow
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Ye

vagrant jacinth
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Very good

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I can never remember the emoji limit

alpine sparrow
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Oh there is such

vagrant jacinth
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Yeah, to stop spam

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Sometimes if you post an owlel you get beaned by the bot

alpine sparrow
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Oohh I can see why

north relic
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plush grail
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@willow tartan where tf u go

balmy wolf
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frosty patrol
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vagrant jacinth
random magnet
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yes hanzo i will let the dragon consume me flushed

alpine sparrow
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Ez

next mesa
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Kai is not a top 3 widow I'm sorry

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Maybe instead of Kai shy

twin bloom
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In owl

next mesa
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I dont

twin bloom
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Ok

next mesa
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Who's opinion is worth more here

twin bloom
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Levy's clearly

next mesa
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Thanks thanks

frosty patrol
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I rate kai widow as hardstuck 3rd

next mesa
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He may be top 5

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But he really needs to step up his widow all stars results

twin bloom
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IDK people underrate kai because he had to hard carry a shit team to to above average s3

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And was outshined by a flex dps player

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On a good team

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Because HS was terrible s4

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Sadly

balmy wolf
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kai still had amazing moments

twin bloom
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Obviously

balmy wolf
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when cree was played

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ofc his tracer is not the best

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venom fits perfectly

twin bloom
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IDK but if Widow was meta in s4 I think people would stop underatting him

twin bloom
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And when widow was meta in s3

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He was on shit team

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Sad

next mesa
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Honestly I was more impressed with his ashe

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Than widow

balmy wolf
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his hard hs

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is goated

frosty patrol
twin bloom
north relic
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McGravy goated

twin bloom
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He isn't

cunning patrol
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My honest take on Kai is that he’s lucky his father birdring retired

north relic
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What does that even mean

frosty patrol
twin bloom
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He is

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Gig is better

hot onyx
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where is his gametime then?

next mesa
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from OWL facebook apparently now deleted

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looks legit-ish

north relic
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Looks dogshit

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The white boxes look bad

worn falcon
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lol

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the Ana one is from the site lol

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the profile images are like photoshoped and not consistent

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even for simple placeholders

raw ermine
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doom tank lul
ik its happening but looks cursed asf

cunning patrol
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my take however

next mesa
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it is

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its white boxes for your team and hexagons for enemy team

cunning patrol
next mesa
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like wtf

lost thicket
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how many dubs

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do you think Dynasty is gonna get

balmy wolf
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16

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maybe 14 ish

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probably 16 tho

lost thicket
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I think they'll go 4-0 with Valiant, GZ they will win, Spark has upset potential, same with Philly, Hunters will def beat them and Shanghai always starts slow

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so who knows then

balmy wolf
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still 17

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16*

lost thicket
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yeah around that much seems reasonable

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12-16 me thinks

balmy wolf
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i just counted all the games that arent vs hunters or shanghai

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nvm they will get 14

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i think they will lose 2 to charge

north relic
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they choke againist valiant once

north relic
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there are 24

next mesa
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24-0 then

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with jjonak returning

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without jjonak

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20-4

frosty patrol
tropic herald
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That picture

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Does not look legit

frosty patrol
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philly is literally bottom apac

north relic
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what does this mea

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homestand? or just fucking skin colors

frosty patrol
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skin colors

balmy wolf
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no

frosty patrol
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justice have no homestands

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omegasadge

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I physically cannot go to a chengdu homestand

north relic
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just send your hologram there

frosty patrol
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I’ll ask memeicus to hit me up with his local ccp official

tropic herald
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Ok maybe that image is real

frosty patrol
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I’m pro-China if it gets me into a Chengdu homestand

frosty patrol
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we knew apac was round robin

tropic herald
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Oh

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I’m talking about the leak one

north relic
lost thicket
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Valiant will def win some games

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but

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I really don't know how many lmao

frosty patrol
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valiant is just

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better than fusion

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fusion tank = valiant tank rn
fusion dps > valiant dps
fusion supports << valiant supports

frosty patrol
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for specifics

next mesa
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diyali

frosty patrol
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fury >= sasin
mn3 > diya
zest >=< innovation/becky
fixa <<<<< lengsa
aimgod < coldest

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fdps could go either way

next mesa
frosty patrol
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worst player in owl about to pull up

next mesa
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diya better than lip

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and diem and ans combined

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he got denied entry by the chengdu hunters because of the chinese communist party

north relic
next mesa
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fits 1a

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diya 1b

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shaq and kobe

vagrant jacinth
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Diya will pound

hot onyx
next mesa
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sasin is the ot

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although this dont matter

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they will sign 800

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🙏 🙏

hot onyx
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If they don’t care about signing a good fs or fdps what makes you think they care about the tanks?

next mesa
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coldest is good

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trust

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you know who valiant has

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thats right

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🧠

hot onyx
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He has been benched by BeBe and MCD for the past 2 seasons

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And the playtime he did get he lost to Charge and Fusion

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Forgive me for not being high on the stonks of a ranked player among professionals

next mesa
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but who does valiant have

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thats right

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🧠

hot onyx
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Ah yes NoHill

next mesa
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THE GOD HIMSELF

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not to mention he was the best flex support out of contenders

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china

hot onyx
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The guy who had the best tank and support line China had to offer at the time and won

next mesa
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BACK IN DA DAY

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you mean developed them

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because ga9a, fearless, and team cc wasnt shit

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before nohill

hot onyx
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Cool

next mesa
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not to mention

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mmonk was better than farway

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even in contenders

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actually they lost to flag gaming 4-3

hot onyx
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Difficult to develop players that are arguably bottom 5-7

next mesa
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we'll see about that

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nohill 🧠

hot onyx
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Put NoHill on Fusion

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Where does that bump them up?

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On the assumption they’re 5th apac

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Without

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I want to see how far this delusion goes

frosty patrol
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they’re 7th without

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4th with nohill

hot onyx
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That’s deluded

frosty patrol
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no it’s not

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he brings out old fury and carpe

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makes fixa aimgod mid

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mn3 zest already cracked

hot onyx
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No it’s deluded to think Charge or Valiant will be better

frosty patrol
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fury solo tank

hot onyx
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Don’t remind me

frosty patrol
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fixa aimgod

hot onyx
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Sado gets signed after the kickoff clash

frosty patrol
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yes fusion have v good dps

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but

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ew

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ew

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EW

hot onyx
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I’ll agree with the FiXa argument

frosty patrol
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aimgod isn’t even bad he’s just outclassed

hot onyx
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Fury is washed but with the retirements of Choi and Lateyoung I’d argue he could be top 10 again

frosty patrol
hot onyx
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Aimgod is better than Coldest and equal to Molly from what I’ve seen in team CC

hot onyx
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Coldest is fucking washed

frosty patrol
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I have a checkmate

hot onyx
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I had faith in him popping off last season and he failed miserably

frosty patrol
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valiant have Chinese players

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fusion don’t

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big up China

hot onyx
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Who gave the supreme leader access to Mikes discord again?

frosty patrol
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yes

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you did have a week 1 ff

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if you want you can play from then

hot onyx
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Believing in Aztac is mildly deluded but there’s logic behind it, because he was a cracked nutcase on WGS in Contenders and didn’t get the chance he deserved to prove himself

frosty patrol
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Alright

hot onyx
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Watch out for what? I’m a win farm in chess

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Coldest had his chances and blew it

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Man got diffed by Kariv

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If that happened to me I’d change my name

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If you want some chinese hopium

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Invest in your local Hangzhou Spark

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Since they (currently) have players that outclass every role on Valiant

lost thicket
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Aimgod

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and Zest is also great, also

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pretty sure they are getting mykayleee

hot onyx
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You do know who he’s replacing right?

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Plus you do know who the other 2 options were right?

lost thicket
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yeah

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he's not great

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but I liked BU a lot and FiXA isn't bad

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just

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not top tier kekw

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but same with Aimgod

hot onyx
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BU is a mid/low tier contenders kr team

lost thicket
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not bad but not top tier

hot onyx
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That got bored and decided to dominate NA

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Well by dominate I mean 2nd

lost thicket
hot onyx
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Avoided?

lost thicket
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Avoided and Oh Yeah

hot onyx
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T1 was my favourite but I’m only hyping up half the roster

hot onyx
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Exactly what I needed in this trying time

lost thicket
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no way he said that

next mesa
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Just truth

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Sorry!

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Profit unfortunately owns carpe

hot onyx
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It’s because Profit ashe made it to the 2020 grand finals in a totally non luck based meta and Carpe didn’t

next mesa
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He was nasty with it

hot onyx
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Not like there was an overall team diff and Carpe was being coached as a tracer otp during gf

next mesa
lost thicket
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Gesture winston better then fearless winston

tropic herald
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Profit washed

hot onyx
lost thicket
next mesa
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so

hot onyx
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Replace main tanks and put Carpe on not tracer and Fusion goes at least map 5

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i dont understand your setnence

next mesa
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gesture was known for winston and orisa (he was bad at both)

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marvel is a main tank

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also

hot onyx
next mesa
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u can make the exact same argument for shock

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omg conveniently they had ans widow striker tracer

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like who cares

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they won

lost thicket
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Marvel better at OT then MT

hot onyx
next mesa
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yes

hot onyx
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Your words not mine

next mesa
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his sigma is insane

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not convenient though

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you're acting as if fury's sigma was worse

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excuses for fusion fans

lost thicket
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keep Marvel on Sigma

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make him a Sigma OTP kekw

hot onyx
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I’m saying Sado hog was dead weight and Carpe on the bench/tracer only was horrible

next mesa
hot onyx
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Man got benched for Heesu Ivy when Carpe ashe Ivy hanzo popped off vs Justice

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honestly

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carpe played

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in the playoffs

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but his hanzo was mid

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i do remember

hot onyx
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His hanzo is mid

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that one play on volskaya tho

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pretty nice

hot onyx
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Ivys hanzo was hella sweet though

lost thicket
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make him only play those two kekw

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he did play dva

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seoul coaches ran marvel dva instead of michelle

hot onyx
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Then hog becomes a must play and Gesture busts out his secret best hero while Sado is stuck pulling off the Kings Row flank of 2020

lost thicket
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as a MT mid, as a OT top tier and benches other OT lmao

next mesa
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his dva is not top tier

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his dva is definitely worse than michelle's

lost thicket
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honestly marve1 can play one hero at a high level and that's sigma

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his ball also fell off

hot onyx
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His ball was horrible when he subbed in for Belosrea on T1

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Actually looked like the weakest player on there

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Kadalis only looked bad because he subbed in for the god MN3

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mn3 nasty

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best rookie hitscan

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because diya isnt a rookie

balmy wolf
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proper is the best rookie hitscan

north relic
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aprita

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pretty good hitscan rookie

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some may say even great

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some may say he is a top 3 DPS duo with leave just under flora yaki fleta lip

frosty patrol
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the marve1 zarya

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🙂

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totally good

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no

north relic
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marve1 dva was top tier

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very inspirational

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rolling valentine in a comp game

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actually got rolled

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didnt even cap 2nd on eichenwalde and we had a 3 min time bank

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valentine washed

final egret
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yeah i'd consider my self a gamer

frosty shell
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me expects pros coms to be clear and sophisticated

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its chaotic

north relic
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name a more soy individual part 2

hot onyx
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politely disagree

hot onyx
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Diya hasn’t pro in a year

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unless he was in chinese contenders after leaving CC

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But I paid 0 attention to non BLG or Chaser teams in CN contenders

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Saying Diya will be equally as good in 2022 as 2020 but Poko won’t doesn’t make sense

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Both are decent players on weak af teams

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With good coaching*

next mesa
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also nohill picked diya

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and london signed poko without trials

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so u already know that analogy falls off

hot onyx
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Actually Poko was getting playtime over Fury and looked like a consistent top 7-8 off tank

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Depending on wether or not recency bias from Spaces recent performances cloud your judgement

twin bloom
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Poko is terrible

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Washed playah who shouldn't be in owl over greats

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Like irone

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Cumber

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Etc

hot onyx
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NA Contenders simp with the unnecessary slander coming in clutch

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London is a EU team

cunning patrol
hot onyx
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And Iron and Colgate are both yanks

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Besides False is in the league

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Be grateful, actual off tanks that deserve to be in the league like Clestyn are missing out

hot onyx
next mesa
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eh

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debatable

hot onyx
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MN3 is nuts

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If he was on Dallas there would be an argument to be made for Dallas being #1 overall

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he is nuts

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dallas is #2 overall

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already

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imo

hot onyx
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#3

next mesa
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no

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#2

north relic
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you could put the best player on every role that isnt on shanghai on a team and shanghai is still better

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even if mn3 was on dallas

hot onyx
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Not with shitters like Guriyo and Edison

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they would still be #2

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not to mention

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if they dont work out

cunning patrol
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they can just be benched

hot onyx
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If Sp9rk1e Doha aren’t starting 100% Dallas don’t win a tourney

cunning patrol
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unironically

next mesa
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ur trolling

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Guriyo might be good

hot onyx
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Ok maybe that’s a stretch

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i got my hopium cap on

hot onyx
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Guriyo is nothing compared to the other contenders KR hitscans

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MN3 Proper Mer1t Kilo Develop

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Even Ezhan is better

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I’ve seen him play and I don’t see any mechanical skill to be showcased

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Another MyKaylee

next mesa
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mykaylee had mechanical skill showcased

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ur trolling

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i watched guriyo too

cunning patrol
hot onyx
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Not in that sense

cunning patrol
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just a not so smart human

next mesa
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he doesnt seem too cracked

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but rush picked him up

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u calling rush dumb hmm?

hot onyx
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In the sense that people are hyping him up to cope with the loss of who they could’ve had

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Charge could’ve kept Happy

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Dallas sadly couldn’t have kept Xzi

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what are u talking about

hot onyx
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Honestly

next mesa
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mykaylee opinions is uncorrelated with happy

hot onyx
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Not gonna call Rush the coaching god dumb

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But let’s look at it like this

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If both Sp9rk1e and Doha are benched and you have an Edison Guriyo dps lone

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but they wont be benched

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ur nitpicking a hypothetical situation

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thats like saying

hot onyx
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Is that winning a tournament

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I don’t understand the logic

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imagine if fleta and izayaki was benched

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and you have whoru and bebe

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like

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thats not gonna happen

hot onyx
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Double hitscan

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Maybe the delusion of hitscan with Edison tracer over Sp9rk1e

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Let’s calculate

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sparkle will tracer over edison

hot onyx
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Dallas is fuckin’ rich right?

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No other team in their right mind that has championship aspirations would pick up Edison or Guriyo

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unless

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they are actually good

hot onyx
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Maybe someone like Titans or Justice

next mesa
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use ur brain

hot onyx
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They won’t be better than other talent showcased

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whats more likely rush being dumb or rush being smart

hot onyx
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You argued that ChiYo isn’t even a top 3 main support in Contenders kr

plush grail
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Paris

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top 3 is set in stone

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chorong chiyo vindaim

hot onyx
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Am I getting mixed up with Sanguinaar?

next mesa
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always been my opinion

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maybe someone else said it

hot onyx
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Probably

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if superich was in the conversation then we'd have something

hot onyx
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If that’s the case then my bad

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Honestly

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but again

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superich vindaim chorong chiyo

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doesnt matter which one you get

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I could see peak Superrich above Vindaim

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there isnt a big difference

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peak superich is probably the best one

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Yeah

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just get one of them

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and ur good

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God my Spark stonks are high

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Deflate them

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Wait no I’m being schizophrenic again

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One topic at a time

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Dallas would be better

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If they took the $100k they used to buy Edison and Guriyo

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if mn3 was on dalla

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s

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of course

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To bid on MN3

next mesa
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fusion always had priority for mn3

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Flexible hitscan tracer and sombra

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ur acting like t1 is poor

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Priority yes

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also location

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If T1 has Fury as a solo off tank with FiXa over Sanguinaar or Jecse they can’t be rich

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they are rich

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t1 is extremely loaded

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Then what

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Is their logic

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For 2022

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no clue

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The Dallas Fuel picked up Edison and Guriyo because they are season 5 role stars

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maybe fixa performed better than sanguinar in trials

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fixa was on ping in na contenders

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u never know what happens behind the scenes

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u werent in trials

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FiXa was taken in by WGS as a loan

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And looked garbo

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wgs looked garbo as a whole

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Not even top 5

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If you’re getting outperformed as an individual by Unique something is wrong

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fixa opener and admiral are going to dick fight for worst main support

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anamo ?

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anamo is hardstuck 17-19

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anamo is easily the worse

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faith and anamo will not be the worst

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someone will shit the bed

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cant believe we went from anamo to vindaim

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sexy af

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Can’t believe I went from Fastro to FiXa

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faith isn't bad

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he's like

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14-17 range

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isnt faith statistically a god

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Faith was really bad last season

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Competition is higher as well

frosty patrol
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he wasn't that bad

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Perfectly reasonable scenario where Uprising shits the bed

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He was just not at all good

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Again

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Correct

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And I think he’ll get worse

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uprising have the arrival of their carry

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Since Uprising don’t have a new coach

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striker shits on the league

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I swear if you’re on the Striker copium

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You’re on the Striker copium

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Listen

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single handedly drags uprising kicking and screaming to 9th place NA

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When Striker “carried” Uprising in season 1

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along with the marve1 sigma

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striker is goated

next mesa
frosty patrol
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mistakes and neko and gamsu also did a lot

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yes

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ik

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just perma run striker tracer

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They had a team with players in top 4-5 minimum on each role

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uh

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thats wrong

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besides kellex note

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mistakes neko gamsu striker was a good core

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Fury Meko Space Poko NotE

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Seems reasonable for season 1 standards

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choi was carrying shock by that point

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Season 1 Choi wasn’t playing enough to have much of an opinion on

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sorry but mistakes was not top 5

twin bloom
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Besides late arrival

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He didn't join

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Until like the last week

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Of the season

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season 1 choi dragged the shock kicking and screaming to some stuff

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twin bloom
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Your confusing choi and architect

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I think

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Shock didn’t even make it to top 5 in stage 4

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Season 1

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They coulda but they choked

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Sad

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Choi showed up the day after stage 3 starter

twin bloom
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Lol

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It was super

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Anyway

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Stage 1 - January 10th - February 10th, 2018.
Stage 2 - February 21st - March 25th, 2018.
Stage 3 - April 4th - May 6th, 2018.
Stage 4 - May 16th - June 17th, 2018.
He joined April 5.

twin bloom
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Choi didn't arrive until mid way stage 4

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Striker was washed last season

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Which was sad to see because he’s the best tracer in the world

twin bloom
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Lmao

frosty patrol
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Dude literally showed up at the start of stage 3

twin bloom
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And without good coaching or a good team around him to revive his gameplay he’s gonna just slouch into an early retirement

cunning patrol
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leave propah and kevsta all better currently

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Currently yes

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But in season 3 he was the best tracer

frosty patrol
twin bloom
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I said slouch

twin bloom
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Lmao

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Like

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source your claim then

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where can I find choihyobin's debut match in stage 4

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We’re going to watch him become a husk of his former self in real time

cunning patrol
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thats pretty much what happens in esports after a few years lol

hot onyx
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Plus the MCD difference

cunning patrol
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especially in ow

next mesa
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Striker was not washed

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His cree was still pretty good

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In season 4 he was

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He wasn't

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Didn’t look to be what he used to be

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Mid

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Oh no

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With a good team around him

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And good coaches

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Striker played differently on a different hero

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Striker was probably their best player

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Even on tracer he wasn’t great

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He was

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Rewatch the matches

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No

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He wasn’t what he used to be

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You rewatch

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Like unironically

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How can u be so dumb

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Striker tracer

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He looked lost at times

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Was as good as ever

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The problem was the rest of the team

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The rest of the team wasn’t bad

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And viol2t throwing

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Striker was better

hot onyx
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Not saying Striker was bad

next mesa
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He was just as good

hot onyx
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Just not the top tier grand finals MVP performances you’d expect

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That's like saying ans is washed

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This opinion is so dogshit

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On hard hitscan

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And without the good team or good coaching around him he’s gonna flop

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Nah

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His tracer will still be insane

hot onyx
next mesa
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No matter how well Boston does this season

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But he’s been resigned on Glads

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With a good team

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You can count his individual performance will be good

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And good coaching

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Two things Boston does not have

next mesa
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Levy

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Ans looked good everytime he played

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Striker had been under Crustys wing for almost his whole OWL career

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So

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Replace the awesome coaching of Crusty with the dogshit that is Lori and Striker falls off further

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Also you're acting like Lori is a horrible coach

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Not really

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Lori had talent and lost to the Titans

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Valentine torb 76

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Punk over GBS

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Which isn’t too bad in hindsight

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But GBS deserved more of a chance

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He had a solid mid team and scuffed it

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Plus wasn’t there a leak saying he’d been treating the players unwell keeping them practicing past midnight or something?

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Regardless of it being true or not, read what Spark players said about MCDick after he got booted

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Alongside a tank line which is only really good for sigma metas

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And whichever dps gets put alongside Striker is low tier

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Mid

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They were bottom 3 NA

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That’s not mid

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Say what you want about Mayhem, but a higher peak and a tougher strength of schedule says they were the better team

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Heck there’s an argument that they were bottom 5 overall depending on how low you rate the 2021 NYXL

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Look at Strikers team

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Hitscan that wouldn’t even make top 5 in Contenders korea

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Main tank whose only above average hero is an off tank

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But you have striker

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The (debatably) most toxic flex support in the west region

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And a core that lost 3-0 to the 2021 Titans

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And was taken to map 5 by Spitfire

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north relic
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what did mcd say again

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ffing chinese right

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Also you keep misspelling “Pr🤮v1de”

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Something like ||”F€$£ you stupid f£€$ing Chinese shit||

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Here's the thing chief

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Striker tracer will drag them to mid

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And Spark players, chinese and korean were relieved to have him off the team

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You and your Striker tracer hopium

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I'm realistic

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Put Lip on the team and he doesn’t drag them that far

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And I recognize how good striker is

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Define “mid”

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#8-9 NA prob

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8

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Could ses them 7

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And that is above which teams?

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Fo sho

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Respectfully there is no alternate reality they finish 7th NA

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Can I put my balls in yo jaws

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Yo jaws

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“Oh yeah baby, score that birdie”

twilit oriole
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Boston are dog water guys

twilit oriole
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Boston won’t get carried by striker, his tracer is what will make them mid

hot onyx
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Am I unrealistic for placing them 20th? Probably

twilit oriole
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No

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But someone’s gotta shit the bed

twilit oriole
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That’s realistic

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They did

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Dog

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And Boston look like the perfect team to phone a diaper company

twilit oriole
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Before striker they are horrible, with striker they are mid

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But even then they’re bad

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Not really

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Idk why striker went back

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One player isn’t enough to drag them up 4 spots

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Bro blew out his career

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MCD and Crimzo are good, Striker is great and Valentine is alright, Victoria is ok nothing insane (I wish they got someone else though lmao) Faith is ok and I honest to god doubt Punk will ever get played

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like

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EVER

lost thicket
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Faith is bottom 5

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Punk will get played for like sig or dva

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MCD is a mental boomer + nothing special

lost thicket
twilit oriole
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So maybe only dva

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Marve1 looked like the second worst player filling in for a contenders team

lost thicket
twilit oriole
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Who does Toronto play opening weekend?

lost thicket
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let me check

hot onyx
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Xenophobia isn’t controversial, it’s fucked

lost thicket
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boo hoo

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we are talking about play

hot onyx
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And MCD wasn’t too special on Spark

lost thicket
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not people

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There’s more than just play

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Sinatraa is a great player though shit person,

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Every single Spark player said they were relieved when he got booted

lost thicket
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Said he was mega toxic even before the ||f#$~ing chinese|| incident

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I don't think they are any Chinese players on Boston

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or am I missing something?

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When I say every single spark player

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That’s including Architect Bernar and IDK

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The korean players

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lets hope what he said about him changing is right n shit, his play was good, and if he is a better person then lets hope his mental isn't like OGE

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Last time someone said they’d change was Sinatraa so..

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Enough talk about the fs though

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Valentine was pretty bad

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Unless he got genji or pharah time

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Even then he is still worse than the likes of EQO and even Mirror on some heroes

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Victoria wouldn’t be top 5 in korean contenders, so he goes to dump his load on NA before being diffed by Hydron

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but with MCD, Crimzo and Striker I think they'll just be ok

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I would take EQO over Valentine any day

lost thicket
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Tankline is bottom 3

lost thicket
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I love Eqo lmao

hot onyx
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Good take

lost thicket
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and his sigma is ok, ngl I think the core of their team (if they have any sense) is like

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Even then teams with slightly better individual talent like Titans or Justice would see trough it

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And Faith is bottom 3

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Bad last season + league talent increase

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Marvel Sigma (pretty good) Striker Tracer (great) Valentine Genji (solid) , MCD Zen (good) and Crimzo well, anything lmao, Bap, Moira and Ana, that should be the main comp they run, play to their strength in a new game

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Striker alone doesn’t take a team from Bottom 3 to mid

lost thicket
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I think closer to higher mid lmao

hot onyx
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Regardless I still have more faith in Justice and Titans than Boston

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And my Justice stonks are low af

lost thicket
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I am

hot onyx
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Because coaching matters

lost thicket
#

incredibly anxious of a solo OT new to OWL

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just

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yeah

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anyways

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gonna take a shower

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I’d take False over Fury

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At least there’s potential

lost thicket
#

are

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insane

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Maybe

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Higher risk higher reward

#

With a FiXa Aimgod backline what is there to lose?

lost thicket
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take your meds please

hot onyx
#

Fury washed on the Washing Up Justice

lost thicket
#

anyways yeah ok the waters already hot be back in 20 mins

hot onyx
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I won’t be back since I should sleep

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Enjoy the shower

frosty patrol
#

My DMs with Sans are worth jailtime

#

I am unironically committing multiple misdemeanors

#

per minute

north relic
frosty patrol
#

I cannot disclose that

next mesa
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Nudes

frosty patrol
#

not nudes

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illegal goods

north relic
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owl nudes

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French people

hot onyx
#

Not nudes

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Saucier

lost thicket
#

crack

north relic
#

also mike you said you were plat

hot onyx
frosty patrol
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combined no

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because I sandbag my dps

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and support

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tank I'm usually 27-29

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but I took a shit

#

dropped to 24

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#

Dang imagine not being top 500 in combined NA

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Couldn’t be Danteh

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i am im unironically am

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You good buddy?

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You’re speaking like an average New York citizen rn

north relic
#

but when it is im on it

tawdry hamlet
lost thicket
tropic herald
earnest leaf
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I hope so

#

covid has been chilling out a lot in the USA recently and restrictions are getting lifted

tropic herald
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I don’t even live near Houston but I’d be so hyped to go

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#

imagine being able to go to a LAN

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No owl team will ever do one here

#

sadge

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#

An above average Baptiste who is beaten by most other flex supports on every other hero is what crimzo is

tropic herald
tawdry hamlet
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He's like B- tier

earnest leaf
#

Minnesota

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We have good venues

tropic herald
#

L

tawdry hamlet
#

At his peak

earnest leaf
#

just no team is within a reasonable distance

tropic herald
#

Similar in Ohio too

tawdry hamlet
#

Ohio is for lovers

tropic herald
#

Realizing the closest team is Atlanta staredawg

tawdry hamlet
#

So cut my wrists and black my eyes

earnest leaf
#

I think the closest to me is vancouver?

tawdry hamlet
#

Me too

earnest leaf
#

there was some r/cow post about where you are closest to which team in the usa

tropic herald
#

Technically Toronto is closer but that means passports and being in the same city as drake

tawdry hamlet
#

I'm in southwest Washington so probably Vancouver

earnest leaf
#

wait yea toronto is closest to me

#

mediocre

#

just like MN sports teams

tropic herald
#

Having a Midwest team would be wicked

willow tartan
twilit oriole
earnest leaf
#

toronto has been mediocre during their entire existence in owl

tropic herald
earnest leaf
#

who knows this season

#

but they'll probably be mid again this season

tropic herald
#

Given Toronto’s history

worn falcon
#

Support twilight

tropic herald
#

I will sleep on them till they prove me wrong

worn falcon
#

And 3 year contract with the players

earnest leaf
#

they have a couple really good pieces

#

then some some ok players

tropic herald
#

I am a Ch0r0ng fan but idk

#

Toronto always drops the pasta

willow tartan
#

when is carpe's 19 year contract running out

worn falcon
#

Heesu, Pogba, Muze, Although, Twilight

#

No idea about Finale

#

Kdg, mobydik

twin bloom
worn falcon
#

Toronto at least looks better than Philly

gusty rampart
#

Toronto Midfiant

#

I cannot see this team ever being good

#

But who knows maybe they'll have the Dallas Fuel 2021 effect

twilit oriole
#

In NA*

twilit oriole
#

Man your starting to sound like pat