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Seoul Dynasty loses to a man with 150 ping
(pelican got a punctured lung and still looked top 3)
pelican, void or hanbin and lip shouldve been mvp top 3
tbh
(all of the Shanghai Dragons should have been MVP candidates) 
O2 Blast contendies team
he goes on to win rookie of the year
and somehow not get a rolestar
Yeah those names I know
Chipsa?
he is s3
he has a 100% owl winrate
He did really well then
Ohh saya?
He is in valorant now
the playoffs there is nothing much to speak of
leave wins mvp
atlanta 1 tricks rush to the finals
chengdu literally has one of their players actively throw playoffs match
Wait
and shanghai dragons get the rematch sweep on shock and dominate their way to the finals
no
yveltal is throw
he wasthcing anime and read manga or something
during scrim
Got kicked out prolly
causing chengdu to lose their rightfully 3rd place
he was resigned
atlanta v shanghai final
Shanghai wins?
Wait does the jehong guy play still?
he ius coach now
Ohh wasnt he like god ana?
ya
Surefour
surefour is now full time streamer man
players still here from season 1
Diem too?
I forgot the rest
anamo fate space kalios striker aimgod void poko carpe fury profit fleta whoru jake super danteh architect fearless diya
that’s it
from s1
architect is still good at 4 heroes
doom bastion reaper junk
none of which are viable
Wasnt he genji main
he’s becoming a silly hero specialist
yes but his genji is now meh
Weird?
yes
I think flower was 2019
Tough world we live in
Yeah..
Kai is sick
I hope they fixed the mental health thingy
our lord has fallen
How
we must rebel against this injustice
Lmao
poetic
What happened
Rip in peace
I’m gonna get muted once I send this message just watch it always happens(maybe not this time bc I got it pretty fast)
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yes hanzo i will let the dragon consume me 
Ez
Pro players think he's the best widow
In owl
I dont
Ok
Levy's clearly
Thanks thanks
I rate kai widow as hardstuck 3rd
IDK people underrate kai because he had to hard carry a shit team to to above average s3
And was outshined by a flex dps player
On a good team
Because HS was terrible s4
Sadly
kai still had amazing moments
Obviously
IDK but if Widow was meta in s4 I think people would stop underatting him
fr
lastro dreamer shax were also there
Dreamer isn't good. Shax one play. Lastro was good but he didn't compare to kais impact
One play that’s tracer
McGravy goated
He isn't
My honest take on Kai is that he’s lucky his father birdring retired
What does that even mean
no shot you think my daddy dreamer ow is bad
where is his gametime then?
lol
the Ana one is from the site lol
the profile images are like photoshoped and not consistent
even for simple placeholders
that birdring owns kai
like wtf
I think they'll go 4-0 with Valiant, GZ they will win, Spark has upset potential, same with Philly, Hunters will def beat them and Shanghai always starts slow
so who knows then
i just counted all the games that arent vs hunters or shanghai
nvm they will get 14
i think they will lose 2 to charge
they choke againist valiant once
philly has upset potential and valiant charge don’t
philly is literally bottom apac
skin colors
no
justice have no homestands
omegasadge
I physically cannot go to a chengdu homestand
just send your hologram there
I’ll ask memeicus to hit me up with his local ccp official
Ok maybe that image is real
I’m pro-China if it gets me into a Chengdu homestand
it’s also pretty much confirmed to be the schedule
we knew apac was round robin
which image are you talking about
GZ does aswell but idk about Valiant kekw
Valiant will def win some games
but
I really don't know how many lmao
valiant is just
better than fusion
fusion tank = valiant tank rn
fusion dps > valiant dps
fusion supports << valiant supports
for specifics
diyali
fury >= sasin
mn3 > diya
zest >=< innovation/becky
fixa <<<<< lengsa
aimgod < coldest
fdps could go either way
zest >_< innovation/becky
worst player in owl about to pull up
diya better than lip
and diem and ans combined
he got denied entry by the chengdu hunters because of the chinese communist party
what about fits
Diya will pound
Fury is washed but he’s still better than WooHyal (if WooHyal is Valiants off tank)
Carpe MN3 are equal to Diya worst case scenario and Innovation Becky aren’t even that good, and Lengsa does diff FiXa but Aimgod is not a worse player than Coldest
have u been keeping up
sasin is the ot
although this dont matter
they will sign 800
🙏 🙏
If they don’t care about signing a good fs or fdps what makes you think they care about the tanks?
He has been benched by BeBe and MCD for the past 2 seasons
And the playtime he did get he lost to Charge and Fusion
Forgive me for not being high on the stonks of a ranked player among professionals
Ah yes NoHill
The guy who had the best tank and support line China had to offer at the time and won
BACK IN DA DAY
you mean developed them
because ga9a, fearless, and team cc wasnt shit
before nohill
Cool
not to mention
mmonk was better than farway
even in contenders
actually they lost to flag gaming 4-3
Difficult to develop players that are arguably bottom 5-7
Put NoHill on Fusion
Where does that bump them up?
On the assumption they’re 5th apac
Without
I want to see how far this delusion goes
That’s deluded
no it’s not
he brings out old fury and carpe
makes fixa aimgod mid
mn3 zest already cracked
No it’s deluded to think Charge or Valiant will be better
fury solo tank
Don’t remind me
fixa aimgod
Sado gets signed after the kickoff clash
I’ll agree with the FiXa argument
aimgod isn’t even bad he’s just outclassed
Fury is washed but with the retirements of Choi and Lateyoung I’d argue he could be top 10 again
fury solo tank top 10- sans
Aimgod is better than Coldest and equal to Molly from what I’ve seen in team CC
no
coldest nut
Coldest is fucking washed
I have a checkmate
I had faith in him popping off last season and he failed miserably
Who gave the supreme leader access to Mikes discord again?
Believing in Aztac is mildly deluded but there’s logic behind it, because he was a cracked nutcase on WGS in Contenders and didn’t get the chance he deserved to prove himself
Alright
Watch out for what? I’m a win farm in chess
Coldest had his chances and blew it
Man got diffed by Kariv
If that happened to me I’d change my name
If you want some chinese hopium
Invest in your local Hangzhou Spark
Since they (currently) have players that outclass every role on Valiant
Fury CLEARS Sansin, idk about Lengsa but I love FiXa, MN3 is great, Carpe is Great, Aimgod is uh
Aimgod
and Zest is also great, also
pretty sure they are getting mykayleee
“I love FiXa” is a sentence I never thought I would hear unironically
You do know who he’s replacing right?
Plus you do know who the other 2 options were right?
yeah
he's not great
but I liked BU a lot and FiXA isn't bad
just
not top tier kekw
but same with Aimgod
BU is a mid/low tier contenders kr team
not bad but not top tier
one of my favorite contenders team is full of 1tricks
Avoided?
Avoided and Oh Yeah
T1 was my favourite but I’m only hyping up half the roster
Nah
Ah the wisdom of the Profit ashe > Carpe ashe fellow
Exactly what I needed in this trying time
no way he said that
It’s because Profit ashe made it to the 2020 grand finals in a totally non luck based meta and Carpe didn’t
He was nasty with it
Not like there was an overall team diff and Carpe was being coached as a tracer otp during gf
If the meta was so easy why didn't you guys go to the grand finals
Gesture winston better then fearless winston
Wrong
Never said it was easy, said it was lucky that your team got all their best heroes and mine got screwed over with Sado hog
I am using your argument you absolute monkey
Replace main tanks and put Carpe on not tracer and Fusion goes at least map 5
i dont understand your setnence
best heroes?
gesture was known for winston and orisa (he was bad at both)
marvel is a main tank
also
Gesture hog Marve1 sigma Profit tracer Fits hs
u can make the exact same argument for shock
omg conveniently they had ans widow striker tracer
like who cares
they won
Marvel better at OT then MT
“Marve1 is a mid af main tank, but his sigma 🥵”
yes
Your words not mine
his sigma is insane
not convenient though
you're acting as if fury's sigma was worse
excuses for fusion fans
I’m saying Sado hog was dead weight and Carpe on the bench/tracer only was horrible
he'd be so good tbh
Man got benched for Heesu Ivy when Carpe ashe Ivy hanzo popped off vs Justice
then maybe your team isnt as good as u think tbh
honestly
carpe played
in the playoffs
but his hanzo was mid
i do remember
His hanzo is mid
Ivys hanzo was hella sweet though
force Sigma OTP Marvel, make him learn another OT like Dva and then
make him only play those two kekw
Then hog becomes a must play and Gesture busts out his secret best hero while Sado is stuck pulling off the Kings Row flank of 2020
Kekw
as a MT mid, as a OT top tier and benches other OT lmao
I mean yeah but joking
honestly marve1 can play one hero at a high level and that's sigma
his ball also fell off
His ball was horrible when he subbed in for Belosrea on T1
Actually looked like the weakest player on there
Kadalis only looked bad because he subbed in for the god MN3
proper is the best rookie hitscan
aprita
pretty good hitscan rookie
some may say even great
some may say he is a top 3 DPS duo with leave just under flora yaki fleta lip
you're forgetting
the marve1 zarya
🙂
totally good
no
marve1 dva was top tier
very inspirational
rolling valentine in a comp game
actually got rolled
didnt even cap 2nd on eichenwalde and we had a 3 min time bank
valentine washed
yeah i'd consider my self a gamer
me expects pros coms to be clear and sophisticated
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its chaotic
name a more soy individual part 2
MN3 better
politely disagree
Diya hasn’t pro in a year
unless he was in chinese contenders after leaving CC
But I paid 0 attention to non BLG or Chaser teams in CN contenders
Saying Diya will be equally as good in 2022 as 2020 but Poko won’t doesn’t make sense
Both are decent players on weak af teams
With good coaching*
because poko wasnt as good as diya was in 2020
also nohill picked diya
and london signed poko without trials
so u already know that analogy falls off
Actually Poko was getting playtime over Fury and looked like a consistent top 7-8 off tank
Depending on wether or not recency bias from Spaces recent performances cloud your judgement
Poko is terrible
Washed playah who shouldn't be in owl over greats
Like irone
Cumber
Etc
mn3 is better than him
And Iron and Colgate are both yanks
Besides False is in the league
Be grateful, actual off tanks that deserve to be in the league like Clestyn are missing out
Finally a good take from the clone
MN3 is nuts
If he was on Dallas there would be an argument to be made for Dallas being #1 overall
?
#3
you could put the best player on every role that isnt on shanghai on a team and shanghai is still better
even if mn3 was on dallas
Not with shitters like Guriyo and Edison
they would still be #2
guriyo might be good i trust rush
not to mention
if they dont work out
u have the worst takes in this server
they can just be benched
If Sp9rk1e Doha aren’t starting 100% Dallas don’t win a tourney
unironically
Ok maybe that’s a stretch
i got my hopium cap on
Guriyo is nothing compared to the other contenders KR hitscans
MN3 Proper Mer1t Kilo Develop
Even Ezhan is better
I’ve seen him play and I don’t see any mechanical skill to be showcased
Another MyKaylee
he isnt
Not in that sense
just a not so smart human
In the sense that people are hyping him up to cope with the loss of who they could’ve had
Charge could’ve kept Happy
Dallas sadly couldn’t have kept Xzi
Honestly
mykaylee opinions is uncorrelated with happy
Not gonna call Rush the coaching god dumb
But let’s look at it like this
If both Sp9rk1e and Doha are benched and you have an Edison Guriyo dps lone
imagine if fleta and izayaki was benched
and you have whoru and bebe
like
thats not gonna happen
Double hitscan
Maybe the delusion of hitscan with Edison tracer over Sp9rk1e
Let’s calculate
sparkle will tracer over edison
Dallas is fuckin’ rich right?
No other team in their right mind that has championship aspirations would pick up Edison or Guriyo
Maybe someone like Titans or Justice
use ur brain
They won’t be better than other talent showcased
whats more likely rush being dumb or rush being smart
You argued that ChiYo isn’t even a top 3 main support in Contenders kr
Paris
when
top 3 is set in stone
chorong chiyo vindaim
Am I getting mixed up with Sanguinaar?
Probably
if superich was in the conversation then we'd have something
I could see peak Superrich above Vindaim
Yeah
God my Spark stonks are high
Deflate them
Wait no I’m being schizophrenic again
One topic at a time
Dallas would be better
If they took the $100k they used to buy Edison and Guriyo
To bid on MN3
fusion always had priority for mn3
Flexible hitscan tracer and sombra
ur acting like t1 is poor
Priority yes
also location
If T1 has Fury as a solo off tank with FiXa over Sanguinaar or Jecse they can’t be rich
no clue
The Dallas Fuel picked up Edison and Guriyo because they are season 5 role stars
maybe fixa performed better than sanguinar in trials
fixa was on ping in na contenders
u never know what happens behind the scenes
There is no alternate universe where that is true
u werent in trials
wgs looked garbo as a whole
Not even top 5
If you’re getting outperformed as an individual by Unique something is wrong
fixa opener and admiral are going to dick fight for worst main support
anamo ?
You forgot Faith and Anamo
anamo is hardstuck 17-19
anamo is easily the worse
Can’t believe I went from Fastro to FiXa
isnt faith statistically a god
he wasn't that bad
Perfectly reasonable scenario where Uprising shits the bed
He was just not at all good
uprising have the arrival of their carry
Since Uprising don’t have a new coach
striker shits on the league
single handedly drags uprising kicking and screaming to 9th place NA
When Striker “carried” Uprising in season 1
along with the marve1 sigma
striker is goated
yes
just perma run striker tracer
They had a team with players in top 4-5 minimum on each role
choi was carrying shock by that point
Season 1 Choi wasn’t playing enough to have much of an opinion on
sorry but mistakes was not top 5
What
Besides late arrival
season 1 choi dragged the shock kicking and screaming to some stuff
Hitscan or proj dps?
Choi showed up the day after stage 3 starter
No he didn't
Lol
It was super
Anyway
Stage 1 - January 10th - February 10th, 2018.
Stage 2 - February 21st - March 25th, 2018.
Stage 3 - April 4th - May 6th, 2018.
Stage 4 - May 16th - June 17th, 2018.
He joined April 5.
Choi didn't arrive until mid way stage 4
Striker was washed last season
Which was sad to see because he’s the best tracer in the world
He didn't play till stage 4
Lmao
Dude literally showed up at the start of stage 3
Bro are you dense
And without good coaching or a good team around him to revive his gameplay he’s gonna just slouch into an early retirement
he isnt
leave propah and kevsta all better currently
source this claim
not an early retirement
Watch the matches
I said slouch
Lmao
Like
We’re going to watch him become a husk of his former self in real time
thats pretty much what happens in esports after a few years lol
Plus the MCD difference
especially in ow
In season 4 he was
He wasn't
Oh no
Even on tracer he wasn’t great
He was
Rewatch the matches
No
He wasn’t what he used to be
He looked lost at times
The rest of the team wasn’t bad
He was just as good
Just not the top tier grand finals MVP performances you’d expect
And without the good team or good coaching around him he’s gonna flop
Ans looked questionable a lot on Shock, sometimes plain bad
No matter how well Boston does this season
You can count his individual performance will be good
You don't watch shock matches, or you have no eyes
Levy
Ans looked good everytime he played
Striker had been under Crustys wing for almost his whole OWL career
So
Replace the awesome coaching of Crusty with the dogshit that is Lori and Striker falls off further
Lori had talent and lost to the Titans
Valentine torb 76
Punk over GBS
Which isn’t too bad in hindsight
But GBS deserved more of a chance
He had a solid mid team and scuffed it
Plus wasn’t there a leak saying he’d been treating the players unwell keeping them practicing past midnight or something?
Regardless of it being true or not, read what Spark players said about MCDick after he got booted
Alongside a tank line which is only really good for sigma metas
And whichever dps gets put alongside Striker is low tier
He had a solid mid team and went mif
Mid
They were bottom 3 NA
That’s not mid
Say what you want about Mayhem, but a higher peak and a tougher strength of schedule says they were the better team
Heck there’s an argument that they were bottom 5 overall depending on how low you rate the 2021 NYXL
Look at Strikers team
Hitscan that wouldn’t even make top 5 in Contenders korea
Main tank whose only above average hero is an off tank
But you have striker
The (debatably) most toxic flex support in the west region
And a core that lost 3-0 to the 2021 Titans
that goes to provide tbh
And was taken to map 5 by Spitfire
Depends wether you prefer xenophobia or racism
Also you keep misspelling “Pr🤮v1de”
Something like ||”F€$£ you stupid f£€$ing Chinese shit||
And Spark players, chinese and korean were relieved to have him off the team
You and your Striker tracer hopium
I'm realistic
Put Lip on the team and he doesn’t drag them that far
And I recognize how good striker is
Define “mid”
And that is above which teams?
Fo sho
Respectfully there is no alternate reality they finish 7th NA
Damn we’re using golf analogies
“Oh yeah baby, score that birdie”
Boston are dog water guys
💀
Boston won’t get carried by striker, his tracer is what will make them mid
Am I unrealistic for placing them 20th? Probably
No
But someone’s gotta shit the bed
And Boston look like the perfect team to phone a diaper company
Before striker they are horrible, with striker they are mid
But even then they’re bad
Not really
Idk why striker went back
One player isn’t enough to drag them up 4 spots
Bro blew out his career
MCD and Crimzo are good, Striker is great and Valentine is alright, Victoria is ok nothing insane (I wish they got someone else though lmao) Faith is ok and I honest to god doubt Punk will ever get played
like
EVER
“I love FiXa”
I need you to hop off my dick
Faith is bottom 5
Punk will get played for like sig or dva
MCD is a mental boomer + nothing special
Marvels Sigma is probably better
Marve1 looked like the second worst player filling in for a contenders team
MCD is a great flex support and so is Crimzo, you just don't like em cause controversy lmao
Who does Toronto play opening weekend?
Xenophobia isn’t controversial, it’s fucked
And MCD wasn’t too special on Spark
not people
There’s more than just play
Sinatraa is a great player though shit person,
Every single Spark player said they were relieved when he got booted
they haven't revealed it yet
Said he was mega toxic even before the ||f#$~ing chinese|| incident
I mean no shit?
I don't think they are any Chinese players on Boston
or am I missing something?
When I say every single spark player
That’s including Architect Bernar and IDK
The korean players
lets hope what he said about him changing is right n shit, his play was good, and if he is a better person then lets hope his mental isn't like OGE
Last time someone said they’d change was Sinatraa so..
Enough talk about the fs though
Valentine was pretty bad
Unless he got genji or pharah time
Even then he is still worse than the likes of EQO and even Mirror on some heroes
Victoria wouldn’t be top 5 in korean contenders, so he goes to dump his load on NA before being diffed by Hydron
Valentine is mediocre, I feel like the two other dps are both "you could have done much better"
but with MCD, Crimzo and Striker I think they'll just be ok
I would take EQO over Valentine any day
any sane person would
Tankline is bottom 3
I love Eqo lmao
Good take
that's.. fair yeah, but I feel like they could get away with forcing Sigma cause new game
and his sigma is ok, ngl I think the core of their team (if they have any sense) is like
Even then teams with slightly better individual talent like Titans or Justice would see trough it
And Faith is bottom 3
Bad last season + league talent increase
Marvel Sigma (pretty good) Striker Tracer (great) Valentine Genji (solid) , MCD Zen (good) and Crimzo well, anything lmao, Bap, Moira and Ana, that should be the main comp they run, play to their strength in a new game
Striker alone doesn’t take a team from Bottom 3 to mid
I doubt they'll be great but I don't think lower mid
I think closer to higher mid lmao
Regardless I still have more faith in Justice and Titans than Boston
And my Justice stonks are low af
I have very little faith in Titans and that's cause False lmao
I am
Because coaching matters
incredibly anxious of a solo OT new to OWL
just
yeah
anyways
gonna take a shower
take your meds please
Fury washed on the Washing Up Justice
anyways yeah ok the waters already hot be back in 20 mins
My DMs with Sans are worth jailtime
I am unironically committing multiple misdemeanors
per minute
What are you dming with sans that is worth jail time
I cannot disclose that
Nudes
crack
Give him time to climb out of that hell hole
combined no
because I sandbag my dps
and support
tank I'm usually 27-29
but I took a shit
dropped to 24
i am im unironically am
Punk for dva also crimzo isn't good otherwise I agree
you smoking crack if you think Crimzo isn't good
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I hope so
covid has been chilling out a lot in the USA recently and restrictions are getting lifted
I don’t even live near Houston but I’d be so hyped to go
An above average Baptiste who is beaten by most other flex supports on every other hero is what crimzo is
What state
He's like B- tier
L
At his peak
just no team is within a reasonable distance
Similar in Ohio too
Ohio is for lovers
Realizing the closest team is Atlanta 
I think the closest to me is vancouver?
there was some r/cow post about where you are closest to which team in the usa
Technically Toronto is closer but that means passports and being in the same city as drake
I'm in southwest Washington so probably Vancouver
Having a Midwest team would be wicked
so which have the most by population?
Toronto ain’t medicore
toronto has been mediocre during their entire existence in owl
If I had to guess LA Atlanta or Dallas
Given Toronto’s history
Support twilight
I will sleep on them till they prove me wrong
And 3 year contract with the players
when is carpe's 19 year contract running out
They are
Toronto at least looks better than Philly
Toronto Midfiant
I cannot see this team ever being good
But who knows maybe they'll have the Dallas Fuel 2021 effect
Respectable, but they’re gonna be top 4 with this roster🥶
In NA*




