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Pineapple vs profit there's a debate to have on ashe
so basically not good at anything
No debate
Pineapple is good
Profit is overrated by most folk
You rate him far too high
this cannot be ignored
Pineapple is good but
Ok would you take Profit over Pelican?
He's no shy
Architect in the junk bastion meta
Depends
That alone says you rate him too high
What about over Fleta?
Again depends
Overall
profit goes even or slightly beats fleta
Agree
I wouldn't be mad with either anyway
But profit has more fuck you energy
Grab them by the balls
Anyway check out tactical crouch podcast
Best team 5v5 draft
- Proper
- Profit
That's all you need to know
We don't care about joe
Yeah and who had the number one and two overall pick
Avrl and yiska the two smart people šš
Wanted to say ljg and izayaki but didnāt know if itād be me coping
yiska is a bigger profit simp than levy
yiskaās profit takes are ian tier
Wasnāt Yiska that guy that accidentally spread OW2 misinformation?
No?
They're great tier
Although some of them are bad
Saying it wouldnāt start until 2023 in an article or something
Unless Iām misremembering
Doesn't matter
Still smart
Great takes on profit
Avrl too
I respect someone who actually watches the APAC region and contenders
I respect AVRLs takes mostly
Especially that one time he was co-streaming something with contenders and he was asked who the best flex support in contenders kr was
āIād probably say Aimgodā
Was vigilante or Finn signed
Finn was in 02 and Vigilante was Talon
Just team diffed
At the time
Aimgod gonna get MVP
Which will be in 2 seasons I think
????
And Zest
insanely good take
chorong vigilante heesang got team diffed
Vigilante is good
Heesang still got diffed by proper
Shame heās stuck with Mag Decay and Assassin
Assassin is sometimes ass sometimes good
Wrong
Not destroy but we'll see when he gets in owl
Yeah youāre right Zest is the best
Biggest problem with talon was unironically kellan
Junbin ball unironically rolled
What
No
Junbin is just better
Also
There's a massive advantage O2 had
Which is called "having proper on your team"
Nah I think that advantage was ānot having Ado instead of a hitscanā
Put some respect in ados name
Man was pretty cracked
Also a grinder
Not in a sexual way
More cracked than Heesang Zest or Although?
If the answer is yes to any of those, please show his OWL contract 
ado sextape on liveleak
touch grass please
Touch the enemy team and have some impact
Yeah but I suck less
your sombra is ASS
to be fair
i did say i just came back from the gym
so ofcourse my aim is gonna be ass
@hot onyx
why did u even say thaty
didnt u get hit by something while u jumped as bap
I was feeding as bap because I thought the brig was killable
Hahah that was funny
Aim after gym is best
He went 200 percent more northern when he said that
And suddenly the hog rolled up and hooked me as I tried to jomp
aim after gym is bad
the posh man turns into a neanderthal for a sec
Quit whining
This just about sums up the OWL 2021 season⦠will Shanghai dominate again this season? https://t.co/NAX1AkuEHL
Real
How does you feeding as tracer have anything to do with aim
Jomped so hard his mic broke
At least my feeding was tactical
The brig could definitely die
Other team mates accompanied me
I just didnāt think theyād ditch as soon as the hog rolled up
My man tried to sneak outlaws in there
u were pushing to the enemy door on fucking bliz world
what did u expect
Sans you had nano as genji and you got hammared by a torb
To kill the half hp brig and jomp back to the mega health pack room
You flanked
I didnāt want to target the ana with sleep dart and the mercy was gonna fly away
Yeah I didnāt know the torb would get nano boosted
Shanghai duel wielding with force lightning
Damage resistance + pocket heals from the mercy and ana
I didnāt want to go after the ana incase of dleep
Or the mercy incase she flew away and I was left standing like a prick
plat ana cant hit genjis
Pick a better opportunity to nano next time
I couldāve had them without the nano
uvalo you talk mad shit for someone who flames ana even tho ur actively trying to break los
But the nano pressured me into diving without the first swift strike
u were screaming for a nano so i try to peak to give it to u
as u run back into a building
leaving me wide open
I was screaming for heals
So I went into a building to stop taking damage
Then you feed
I donāt instalock moira
Anyway you wanna play again later
but u still keep asking me to play chump
Or hog
id love to play tonight but my gf is coming over
Aw hell yeah Uvalo we can win while Ian has an imaginary tea party
I thought people grew out of that when they turned like 7 but Iām not complaining
shut up
Lel
Titans > Paris
my favorite team > your favorite team
Afraid other than a support difference you get owned every time
3 days
Ellivote again
diem
Naga?
Dridro?
Vestola?
glister is better than all of those
Glister is one of the worst players on da roster
Glister is a washed corpse
Sadly
Damn and you donāt rate Paris that highly either
Which hitscans would you rate lower than Glister?
Also a washed playah
Numbani A???
Swap numbani and havana
No Havana is fine where it is
It isnāt bad but itās also 2cp
I just prefer Eichenwalde over Numbani
I like route as a sig one trick nowadays
Route 66 is fun wdym
What do you play jack
Route 66 is so shit
Gib is the map where i get mad the most when my team canāt push out second point
Control maps are debatable
I love busan downtown
Actually
But meka base and ancient place are mid
Then thereās illios lighthouse which is A
Well is like d for me
As long as there isnāt a widow camping highgriund
I donāt like ruins much
Oasis has one good one mid one Fucking hell
junkertown is dogshit
volskaya has the best 2cp point by far and one of the worst 2cp points
How is b overrated
volskaya A is hot
The fact that itās rated higher than D
I never get in a 2cp game and think āthis game will be funā
Even oasis
yo lsd
It can be fun
Flex players šŖšŖ
you want a trial for a masters/low gm team
I'm like profit leave fleta proper combined
If it's for fun why is there trials
we need to see how fun you are
No I hate speaking with people
if youāre an asshole gone
who said you need to speak
mute players >
based
It is but itās better than Numbani and Hollywood
Numbani is a good map and I stand with it
Eichenwalde A point is pretty cancer
Hollywood I can bring down
YES
I donāt even have j town that high
Best map is Lijiang
Respectable I have lijiang in s
Itās kinda overrated but the maps slap tbh
Yeah
Every koth map averages to A other than oasis
I wonder what any of the 2cp maps will become
I love playing supp on it
KoTH is an overrated game mode
Imo
If you win first fight you basically win on most maps
But then there are some games where itās just the most fun thing in the world
Tbh that's every overwatch game
What makes maps good
Is if it gives a higher chance for that fun game
Which is why 2cp is C since you arenāt having fun 99% of the time
Other than like a 6 minute hold when you get rolled
Itās never fun
Oasis city center and Nepal sanctum
Win first fight with a certain comp? You have to throw to lose
are so bad
Lijiang Control Center
And busan meka base
Have got to be my least favorite points
I like lijiang cc and meka base since I play rein
Ok
Now you play rein into another rein but they have a symm and lucio you have a mercy and a widow
Close
Imo it's what percentage of games is shit
For example kings row
Well those two are linked right
Make a little tracker
What comps and how fun you had
Enemy has hog did you have fun?
You have hog did you have fun?
Actually though I kinda like when my tank duo is a hog now
Because I get to play sig
Which is like a 60% winrate for me and is less stressful than rein monkey
If I have a hog that hits one hook a fight Iām happy
All I know
Ping system going to make hog significantly worse
Just going to spam ping that dude
I want to know how it works
Probably similar to apex
I donāt play apex
You middle mouse on stuff and depending on what it is it says diff stuff
Like Fortnite because I know how that works
Or like double middle mouse and it says enemy ahead
In val it's z
Ping system sounds super useful for someone who hates comming aka me
It would be nice
New passive hog loses footsteps from ninja training
Bc it would let people who are less comfortable talking still comm just as effectively
i love harassing teammates in comp
Iām in your walls
Thing about ow is there isn't much callout
Sounds like a shitter elo issue
But you gotta be really aware of everything
In kings row
There isn't callous in val like hukkah showers uhall heaven
''fuck you sans''
āLuigi touching spawn doorsā
High
On the Rialto boat
Hanamura for example
What weird call is hanamura
Like take second floor
Isnāt it just take high
The only special map call I can think of is kr hotel
Also all the fun tps on Hanamura
Itās just left or point
āRoad hog swimming leftā
why did ur pc drive away
Why not
Philly is the worse great team every season
EVERY GOD DAMN SEASON, 3-0 Shanghai loose a map to Valiant
still a great team, top tier one just not like top 3 for example
my hatred for Philly comes down to how great they are
and how ASS they are at the same time
Fusion was not good last season, let alone great
that's what happens when you get uncoachable trash like Mano unfortunately
still higher than sado on the greatest of all time list
and when sombra is meta for like 70% of the season and you release your only good sombra player
yeah because seasons 1 and 2 were before Sado had his redemption arc
and when Mano could get away with his invisible playstyle while being called one of the best
you canāt have a redemption arc if you were never shit
seasons 1 Sado was mid and 2 was bad
Mano did mediocre s4
bad*
Other years he was good
he was below average as an individual
- his ball was worse than Daan and Mag
I still stand by the argument that if Fusion had a player with mechanical skill that could be coachable like Yakpung or OGE they would've done better
Breathe fire ā
Look fire ā
The @ShanghaiDragons Championship Skin, Zhulong Sombra, is on sale now š„š² https://t.co/6I8dLxeLMD https://t.co/jG0RUhP4uP
pog
ugliest sombra
straight facts
I like it
lets just give this hacker stealth lady heels, a super short skirt and then a dragon motive top
Lip deserved better
If they never made the headpiece look like that itād be sick
:(
L skin for L team
The headpiece is disgusting lmao
they either should have done a dragon theme or a fancy skirt thing
haha that skin looks like shit
also how the fuck are we supposed to buy it
we have not had games in months
and nobody has tokens
who pays for skins???
Blizzard loves money
ugly ass head piece
imagine ignoring ur game and community for months and then asking for money for a skin ??? 
blizzard hates us
why would you pay for the skins when you can get tokens for free
When is ED migrating to a server
I have tokens kekw
when we all get banned
hopefully soon
Sombra skin looks cool
Bad take detected
yes
bit please
that headpiece is garbage
the rest of it looks good
we should migrate before then
for example on the server we canāt ban cringe from ED
Meh skin
š¦ Hlc and paris gon š¦
They will never reach the peak of the first 2 skins huh
as if the others 2 were good
At least thighs right?
My favorites are shock hog and jjonak mvp
Jjonak mvp is never being swapped off
Controversially i liked the shock doom skin
Idk why you guys are hating on the skin
this is basically Lips skin lmao
the best skins are DoomShock, LipBra, Echoleta, JJzen (I am making these up as I go), ShockHog, Zarytraa, LondonWinston
cuz its dookie
why would i use that over black cat
lot of these have upset
potential
like I could see them beating Defiant and Justice maybe
thought Mayhem till London they are getting bitch slapped ngl
Doomnatraa*
Winsture
Supehog
Jjonyatta
@PlayOverwatch @overwatchleague @ShanghaiDragons Let the dragon consume me š„µ https://t.co/K0dfAjdwnR
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all of these owl teams are down bad
Weāre still like 2 months out
How is homestands gonna work this season again
9
At least
4.4+
oh okay
8
Whoās black
dullahan
he doesnt know how the horse moves
new player smh
new link
Anon vs anon
anon is dullahan
I'm just gonna go ahead and do this because it would be rude not to at this point https://t.co/c7a521KWid
My opinion on the importance of casters in esports:
Casters should get paid as TALENT just like players get paid as TALENT. If you want to win titles, you take care of the best talent. If you want to improve your entertainment value, you take care of the best talent.
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fuck this i give up im just gonna checkmate with 2 queens
Itās very difficult
no i didnt
i didnt blunder horse it was a smart sac
Early when you still had a rook
hi
hello
Took you long enough
stfu
Yeah i checked the engine you missed mate in 1 like 3 times
Link the next match I accidentally clicked outta it
gg
oh that's much better
forgot doom was for him
Current standings
I do know
I just haven't played much
like
in forever
this is just "OH yeah ok no don't do that" or "OH SHIT NO YEAH THEY CAN DO THAT"
on my end kekw
bullying old man sadge
sorry grandpa forgor to take his pills
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who am i playing agin
urumir memeicus
ohhh
Chess tourneyyy
^^ always my about me
do you expose your email
if you visit the sheets
I already have 1/3 of the messages as lsd
lip carried their asses
coomers made the first design
I think ball and sombra both could have fit for their skin though
Both were super important to them winning
i feel like ball was more defining
maybe lucio for the leejaegon moment
LOL
I like it
nah⦠wtf
THE LEFT ONE IS SO MUCH BETTER
mask of the right one, crown of the left one and the body that we have now
MWAH
Make her emp have a dragon pattern around the edges
Or just be red and yellow
Hack too
too much effort for Blizzard
Perfection
emp is a fire sphere
sounds so fucking cool
yes
Are you winning son?
we got rolled
shut up
Me.
name a more soy individual
his name is fubukifriend
who is fubuki
fubuki's friend speaking facts
ok im keeping a comp log like i said before
šØSenator Rubio warns of a heightened risk of cyberattacks and urges American companies to have their #ShieldsUp, saying "the threat is real."
Report incidents and learn more at https://t.co/sEGFrkRDvZ. https://t.co/4lYeXnPFvi
lmfao
open as a tweet
you'll see the #shieldsup
Based senator being a glads fan
#ShieldsUp
Yes
We have lost 0 relevant maps
Not relevant
Wh
super yk?
two time overwatch league champion, world cup champion, stage 2 champion, may melee tournament champion, countdown cup champion, role Star, all Star, MVP runner-up
???
any of those ring a bell?
No
:)
guys i just got the shanghai skin out of a lootbox
Sure
imagine not having 900 tokens stocked up from last season
i only have 55
i dont play sombra much anyway
:cope:
does sig have an OWL skin
i want one
not yet
no no Sig champ time
kellan will rock the league by storm with sigma
#ShieldsUp 
Riot Vanguard real secure these days huh
Viol2t ranked genji kekw
save for Tokens cause SHD skin
get enough tokens, chill
can't play game now kekw
I wish Viol2t was consistent on dps, like Gibraltar fight all the time
I was gonna use the answer to todays wordle as my starter player
but decided not to
I am sad
who??
starter player for what??
what team do you support
dragons
why
OWLEL 27
fell off at OWLEL
ezclap
Owlel
at least you narrowed down that they weren't ||arabic||
||could've been ksaa||
two seasons ago yeah
I was also gonna go bebe before izayaki
owlel
|| the bebe curse ||
and Geston
Sadly valentine genji one trick
are we doing it here mr memeicus?
yes.
Iām going tracer
then thereās a contenders unit
I remember contenders there were some big potents
Set the stage for season 4. Shock come off of a back to back championship win. The Dallas Fuel reunite their element mystic roster. London Spitfire imports their massively successful British Hurricane Roster. Washington Justice and Los Angeles Gladiators pick up top level rookie prospects mag and muze.
and assassin
and bebe
Wait
top tier rookie prospect bebe
Shanghai dragons new flex support talent
thank you lsd
You real crusty?
Why you got jailed?
Hitscan prodigy "Xzi" of the dallas fuel has to step down from play days before the season starts due to back issues.
The meta in NA turns to be mcree mei rush.
iām a plat dva otp in current day
havenāt played in forever
Dallas Fuel whips out the symmetra and uses her to great success
I checked your sr isnāt it 2400
Shitting on the sf shock
In the East, things are fucky as usual as teams take turns repeatedly bashing each other's heads in
I checked using leaderboard
itās 25
Coaching staff explodes
Ow2 will make owl interesting
7 times in 3 years?>
May Melee playoffs. Dallas Fuel, Shanghai Dragons, Florida Mayhem, Chengdu Hunters.
Florida mayhem YAKI unexpectedly dies to leejaegon
Dallas Fuel and Shanghai Dragons were the favorites from their respective region as (covid so regions are split) they clash for the first time in the upper bracket
Even though yaki tracer is elite
stylistically, the west were thought to be favoured (as usual)
Any finns left in owl?
Gamer LIP pulls out an incredible tracer that we've never seen before, top in the league
Finns?
like players named finn
Finnish people
ohj
Doesnāt miss a pulse bomb
There used to be many back in old days
Shanghai Dragons beat the shit out of the mayhem to advance to the grand finals only to lose out 4-2 as Fearless wins over his former teammates
Wasnāt mayhem shanghai close
fearless is a gamer now btw
Fast forward to the June Joust where in the east the Hangzhou Spark go sicko mode and clean sweep the stage, going 4-0
that was mayhem chengdu
including beating the dragons violently
Chinese rookie hitscan player "shy" fucks
Nah
Left in S3
The Philadelphia Fusion (team during the preseason considered to have one of the best rosters in the league)
Carpe tho
Get full held by the Los Angeles Valiant, a team of B-rate contenders china players assembled in about 2 days
Memeicis
Denying the Fusion of making another stage
the los angeles valiant have now won a grand total of one map
This results in the NYXL playing the Hangzhou Spark, where both teams completely shit the bed except NYXL does it slightly less badly
Therefore they advance to the JJ playoffs
Jj?
June Joust
Stage 2
In the West, the teams have decided to be cringe and play a composition called neo goats/dupligoats/zombie comp
Consisting of Winston Dva Echo Reaper Lucio Moira
/6man
Its not 3 3 3
(Because Rein Tracer Sombra Zen are banned)
Why goats?
/rush/brawl
Wasnt florida the worst team too?
ok get back to the lesson mr memeicus
Anyways the composition is cringe because every fight would have 16 ultimates and 13 of them were echo duplicating dvas and launching dva bombs
florida also unbelievably shit the bed in seasons 2 and 4
season 3 they were good
Atlanta Reign sweeps the Shock as the SFS continue to troll their fans by not making a stage playoffs
June Journament playoffs. Dallas Fuel vs Shanghai Dragons. Rematch from the previous stage finals
Shanghai Dragons try this funky wacky ball composition and get their shit kicked in
NYXL are just happy to be there and lose to ATL convincingly
Letās go nyxl
Day 2. Shanghai Dragons continue playing their wacky ball composition against the NYXL and beat them handedly.
There was an issue on Numbani where a player DCed so the shanghai dragons stopped pushing cart and reset to wait
Dallas Fuel sends Atlanta Reign down to the lower bracket in a gruelling loss for the players.
Wait
Apparently Atlanta are boomed and Shanghai Dragons sweep them in turn.
Is this still goats era?
2021
So no?
no
Im confused how to metas went?
June Journament Grand Finals rematch from the previous stage. Shanghai Dragons and Dallas Fuel.
Shanghai still playing their ball composition that got them swept and Dallas fuel still keeps playing neo goats which allows all their players to play on comfort picks
(valiant minilesson: the team won only 2 maps and were only good for their hair)
Metas will be the next unit
Fusion lose to valiant during jj right
NA andys are saying APAC are behind on meta which seemed like it started to come true as LeeJaeGon dropped beats and the dragons were down 3-1
THEN
yes
THE SHANGHAI DRAGONS FUCKIN TURN IT AROUND BABY PLAYING THE EXACT SAME COMPOSITION
FATE WRECKING BALL BECOMES ATTRACTIVE
They proceed to flip the series on its head with the power of BALLS
Dragons = mickey team
Mickey still plays?
no
teacherās assistant headass
He was so wholesome

Mickie it was actually
The Shanghai Dragons cast out the Dallas Fuel in 4-3, denying the fuel players their back to back stage win. The first time the Dragons have ever beaten the Fuel in franchise history.
This map also signifies the Dragons breaking even in match win/loss.
overall
Its a lot since they were 40 down
(shanghai finished first in regular season for seasons 3 and 4)
Summer Showdown. The ball comp seems pretty good and two teams have clearly risen above the rest in said composition; the Shanghai Dragons and the Chengdu Hunters
With no hero pools in play, the composition rises to the next level with Tracer and Sombra in the mix
and the washington justice sometimes
theyāre a funny one
Omg ball mets that sounds interesting
In the West, the Paris Eternal, a team of EU gamerbros do the funny on a bunch of teams by playing the Pharah and nobody knows how to deal with it for a bit
In the East, the Philadelphia Fusion doesn't know that you're supposed to shoot the pharah when you're playing against a pharmercy in their match against the Chengdu Hunters
The Dallas Fuel post June Joust look mortal, though they still clear out the rest of the NA and make it to the playoffs as usual, with Atlanta Reign joining them.
Shanghai Dragons and Chengdu Hunters make it through as the favoured teams on the ball composition coming in
Major copium shortages occur across the world as Shock fans once again do not get to see their team make another stage
Copium?
itās an ore thatās turned into a drug that helps you cope with loss
Copium is a naturally occurring gaseous substance that when inhaled, generates excuses and theories to make one feel better about losing matches.
basically the same thing
You're thinking of Copirite
the gas form copium is only released by decaying copirite rock 5 kilometers under the surface
Itās therefore very rare
Summer Showdown isn't much to say. The ball comp is proven to be unbeatable so far as the Chengdu Hunters and Shanghai dragons knock out NA to make an APAC only finals
The rock can also be mined deep underground but the gas form is difficult to obtain from mined rock
Then in the Finals, the Shanghai Dragons pull a counter-comp to their own composition against the chengdu hunters and they beat them with said composition which we will never see or hear get mentioned ever again
Why I have never heard about it
That is a good thing. Means you are still somewhat healthy.
Shanghai Dragons become the second team in league history to win a back to back stage finals.
nah
First being the NYXL
Come the countdown cup and the Dallas Fuel and Shanghai Dragons have both acrewed enough league points for guaranteed spots in the playoffs so they decide to sandbag the final stage of the year to prepare for the playoffs
what the fuck are you talking about
season 2 stage 3 finals: shanghai season 3 may melee finals: shanghai
are you forgetting that S2 stage 4 exists
back to backers
s2 stage 4 had no stage playoffs
atlanta moment
o
followed by shock justice charge
i guess you are correct but the thing is 2020 was split in half
so no internationals
anyways
O atlanta with dafran
In the countdown cup, the Gladiators and the Hunters make it far
like zarya rollouts and locking torb
Recency bias sets in for the MVP vote for leave and shu
Dafuc even dafran gone?
ya
yes
he is a farmer now
Nah
dafran is a farmer
Farmer?
currently
Is this like dafran trolling?
no
What is this
Shock fans have major copium because they lost 3-2 to the glads who ended up wining the countdown cup
(ignore the fact that the top two teams werent participating)
(theyre not sandbagging!!11 theyre bad!
The last Florida Mayhem supporter perishes
uh what else happened this stage
Oh yeah the hero bans
No sig echo lucio or ashe
just because they could get away with it

