Fusion will win maps or games when their dps do something
#esports-discussion
frosty patrol
cedar oasis
You mean if
frosty patrol
I mean when
north relic
Fusion will win maps or games when their dps do something
Ow2 in a nutshell
Dps kill something pls
frosty patrol
Good thing we have 1 average fs and VIGI fucking LANTE
north relic
Who is your other fs
cedar oasis
Vigilante is overrated
frosty patrol
Krillin
frosty patrol
Vigilante is overrated
Wrong
frosty patrol
Washington is the most mid team I’ve ever seen
But we could be good or like 8-10 NA
cedar oasis
Good is above 8th
cedar oasis
9th
frosty patrol
no
cedar oasis
Idk London
frosty patrol
1 fuel 2 shock 3 glads 4 nyxl 5 outlaws 6 defiant 7 justice 8 reign 9 eternal 10 uprising 11 mayhem 12 titans 13 spitfire
1-8 are good
cedar oasis
You put reign below justice
frosty patrol
Reign are above if tracer
cedar oasis
We are gonna have to rethink your position in the council
frosty patrol
We are gonna have to rethink your position in the council
Ian has a spot and has paris top 10
I rest my case
cedar oasis
You are now on the same tier as mystary
Wich is d+
Ian is ian
We let him do his thing
He is also schizophrenic
north relic
Reign are above if tracer
They have venom tho
north relic
Ian is ian
Ian gets the mental health pass
cedar oasis
Reign are better in nearly every role
north relic
More players on what
frosty patrol
More players on what
Historically in owl
cedar oasis
Mike that's not an achievement
north relic
Ok cool
cedar oasis
Mike you have to respect your elders
north relic
Xqc
cedar oasis
You are but a baby
frosty patrol
Sorry but I’m not old enough to have mentally developed respect
frosty patrol
Actually the 3 main tanks are
2 more
cedar oasis
Actually the 3 main tanks are
Coco
frosty patrol
No
north relic
I just named the three
frosty patrol
XQC is 1
north relic
X, Q, and C
cedar oasis
!!is mike wrong
young fractalBOT
You may rely on it.
north relic
Was it like panker
cedar oasis
Zeppelin has spoken
frosty patrol
Panker is the 2nd yes
north relic
I forgor the last one
frosty patrol
Uvalo do you ff?
cedar oasis
What is ff
frosty patrol
It’s Stand1 lmao
north relic
It’s Stand1 lmao
Face fuxk
frosty patrol
forfeit
north relic
Wrong message
north relic
I meant what ff meant
cedar oasis
I remember saying stand1 would be good at the beginning of the season
He failed me hard
north relic
Carried shanghai on hog
twilit oriole
1 fuel 2 shock 3 glads 4 nyxl 5 outlaws 6 defiant 7 justice 8 reign 9 eternal 10...
The Audacity of putting NYXL 4th
twilit oriole
Houston and defiant are literally better than NYXL
frosty patrol
Flora yaki gangnamjin core
better than defiant
Defiant have a nasty support line but besides that are kinda mid
twilit oriole
Yaki is better than although, but every thing else I’m taking Toronto
twilit oriole
MUZE>kellan
Hotba and ?
Heesu>flora
Yaki>although finale
Twilight>MYU GNJ
Chr0n0g>whoever they get
frosty patrol
Kellan Gargoyle > Muze Hotba
north relic
Kellan is an evolution of muze
twilit oriole
MUZE slaps kellan any time of the day💀
frosty patrol
How much contenders have you viewed
twilit oriole
I’ve viewed enough to know MUZE is better than kellan
north relic
Flora can easily match heesu
frosty patrol
Yep
north relic
Kellan needs to prove himself first though
frosty patrol
Heesu is mid off 2 heroes
twilit oriole
Also defiant’s tracer player is finale
It’s although?
frosty patrol
It’s although?
Although and finale are both not insane at tracer
They get hard diffed by both flora and yaki
twilit oriole
Although and finale are both not insane at tracer
I’m guessing you haven’t seen although tracer😭
Yaki is better but although isn’t horrible
frosty patrol
I’m guessing you haven’t seen although tracer😭
Yaki tracer is simply much better
north relic
Yaki is better although although isn’t horrible
north relic
Name top 5 tracer
plush grail
u suck
north relic
Kevster leave proper striker yaki?
twilit oriole
Bro you guys rate players so low that when I rate them right I look high so now I’m gonna say defiant fucks NYXL any day🤣
frosty patrol
Kevster leave proper striker yaki?
prob
twilit oriole
Kevster leave proper striker yaki?
Yeah put yaki and forget pelican👍
north relic
Pelican?
frosty patrol
Kevster leave proper striker yaki?
Yes
And then there’s a bunch more between top 5 and although
Profit decay venom sparkle pelican fleta
All reasonably better than although
plush grail
naga claps
plush grail
???
north relic
Tsuna tracer is the only reason paris even made play ins
plush grail
naga barely played tracer
north relic
You don’t think pelican is a top 5 tracer? Mind blowing takes fr
I don’t think he is
When you have yaki
God himself
twilit oriole
Mfs gonna put Na1st next😭
frosty patrol
Forgoodking your takes are the exact opposite of everyone else in ED
So you’re either a genius or Ian
twilit oriole
Genius
north relic
Spell rapel
twilit oriole
Rapel
north relic
Genius
twilit oriole
😁
frosty patrol
Spell uncharacteristically
twilit oriole
Uncharacteristically
north relic
Now do it with your eyes closed
twilit oriole
I cheqrxyatierietqxppyy
frosty patrol
gj
plush grail
im a paris simp and im proud
frosty patrol
First week of March is Ian empowerment week
north relic
First week of March is Ian empowerment week
What are paris first matches?
plush grail
SHOCK
young fractalBOT
Welcome to the server! Please remember to read #rules and #647027996070379520 and enjoy your stay!
north relic
who are u <@!452631000674205696>
I’m a two time overwatch league champion, world cup champion, stage 2 champion, may melee tournament champion, countdown cup champion, role Star, all Star, MVP runner-up
plush grail
ur kinda based tbh
north relic
paris sucks
plush grail
i legit dont even know who u are and which team u support
north relic
L
plush grail
no i justhave bad memory
plush grail
nah paris will win both games
i'll do stuff like
drink for every time naga gets a triple
frosty patrol
Only 8 days until Ian empowerment week
north relic
Remember
He will drink water if Seoul beats a team
And die of alcohol poisoning if Seoul wins gf
frosty patrol
And die of alcohol poisoning if Seoul wins gf
Wrong
Ian has enough weight to be insanely tolerant
frosty patrol
Mistakes his fat rolls for his gf
plush grail
im not fat wtf
north relic
Mistakes his fat rolls for his gf
Chugging an entire bottle of vodka can’t be healthy
next mesa
NO JJONAK 
north relic
Seems like they didn’t invest in a second flex support like most teams
plush grail
paris
north relic
Ian doesn’t mention paris in 5 minutes challenge (impossible)
plush grail
lsd dont be a whomegalul challenge (not possible)
north relic
Very possible challenge
Sadly I can’t control your brain function to give it the ability to remember things
plush grail
control my brain like a little chipmunk
balmy wolf
theres is only one whomegalul and its mystary
nomegalul
hot onyx
mods had enough of his Fits copium ig
turbid cargo
What teams are looking the best rn? Also, any predictions for opening day games
tropic herald
shanghaih
north relic
shanghaih
sullen berry
上海h
north relic
English only pls
balmy wolf
What teams are looking the best rn? Also, any predictions for opening day games
shock 3-0 paris and london
north relic
Nyxl 3-2 glads
hot onyx
I would say my predictions but y’all would likely steal them as I am on a different wave length to the rest of y’all
willow tartan
im safe with this roster
you mean you're safe because of this roster?
north relic
I would say my predictions but y’all would likely steal them as I am on a differ...
Ok I’ll say mine first nyxl glads 3-2 ,paris shock 0-3 ,reign mayhem 3-0 ,dragons fusion 3-0 ,titans Boston 2-3 ,shock London 3-0 ,Houston Dallas 2-3 ,cdh dragons 3-0 ,justice defiant 2-3 ,nyxl reign 3-1 ,glads Boston 3-1 ,spark Seoul 2-3 ,titans London 3-0 ,mayhem paris 3-2 ,Dallas justice 3-1 ,Houston defiant 3-2
willow tartan
commas, ever heard of them?
north relic
comma your mother
willow tartan
fuck you
vagrant jacinth
Illegible
hot onyx
Ok I’ll say mine first nyxl glads 3-2 ,paris shock 0-3 ,reign mayhem 3-0 ,dragon...
I agree exactly with like 5 of those, how are you such a 1head?
north relic
I agree exactly with like 5 of those, how are you such a 1head?
Sounds like the other way around
vagrant jacinth
Bad preds
vagrant jacinth
London gonna clap shock just you watch
hot onyx
What are your preds then
You forgot Fusion vs Seoul
hot onyx
Yeah because Dragons is western
north relic
I don’t see much wrong with my preds
hot onyx
Glads 3-0 NYXL, Paris 0-3 Shock, Reign 3-0 Mayhem, Dragons 3-1 Fusion, Titans 3-0 Boston, Shock 3-1 London, Houston 2-3 Dallas, Hunters 3-2 Dragons, Defiant 3-0 Justice, NYXL 3-2 Reign, Glads 3-1 Uprising, Spark 3-2 Seoul, Titans 3-0 London, Paris 3-1 Mayhem, Dallas 3-1 Justice, Outlaws 3-2 Defiant
plush grail
you mean you're safe because of this roster?
shut up
north relic
Glads 3-0 NYXL, Paris 0-3 Shock, Reign 3-0 Mayhem, Dragons 3-1 Fusion, Titans 3-...
Most of it is the same other than a map or two
hot onyx
Most of it is the same other than a map or two
Mayhem don’t beat Paris I’m afraid
Nor does Seoul beat Spark
north relic
Mayhem don’t beat Paris I’m afraid
Yea that’s a controversial Match in this chat
hot onyx
And Uprising definitely loses to Titans tf
north relic
Seoul beats spark imo
Sans your Boston takes are egregious
Actually I have defiant beating justice not the other way around
How do you have titans 3-0ing Boston but glads 3-1ing them
hot onyx
How do you have titans 3-0ing Boston but glads 3-1ing them
Because not all matches are going to play out the way they would on paper, Glads play Patiphan and Uprising has one good Striker game before he washes up for good to give the fans hope that he’s still in his S2-3 prime
On paper Shock wouldn’t lose 2 maps to Spitfire
north relic
So you are trying to predict the unpredictable
hot onyx
Or Glads and Dallas wouldn’t lose to Paris
north relic
Unfortunately titans lose to Boston
hot onyx
Why is every human being in this chat so low on Titans?
hot onyx
You’re low enough on them to have them lose to a bottom 3 team
next mesa
why would striker be washed
north relic
Boston isn’t bottom 3
hot onyx
why would striker be washed
If Striker wasn’t washed and in his S3 prime Shock would want him back
next mesa
shock doesnt pay the most money and they have proper
hot onyx
Alright maybe not Shock but a good team would pay for him
It’s not Season 1 anymore where Striker can carry an upper mid team to a 10-0 stage
next mesa
striker is still striker
hot onyx
Every player on Uprising is at least bottom 5 in their respective role
next mesa
wrong
frosty patrol
Striker
next mesa
also u cant make that just because shock has proper now so doesnt need striker
as an indication that striker is washed
hot onyx
Striker went from a top tier team to being picked up by a below average team
twin bloom
Why is every human being in this chat so low on Titans?
I'm not
hot onyx
Tell me that doesn’t concern you about his capabilities
twin bloom
Titans>>>boston
next mesa
Tell me that doesn’t concern you about his capabilities
it doesnt
frosty patrol
Striker was often a major force on said team
hot onyx
Titans>>>boston
Kiss me
next mesa
not to mention boston is mid
twin bloom
Boston is terrible
hot onyx
Levy why
hot onyx
Mid last year = below average this year as the league is actively growing in talent
twin bloom
They were below mid
frosty patrol
paris > boston
hot onyx
Boston made 1 upgrade and the rest were sidegrades and downgrades
frosty patrol
Paris is even with london
lol
twin bloom
Glister hasn't been good in 7 years
hot onyx
Paris is even with london
And bad take mcgee is back
twin bloom
Sparkr up and comer
frosty patrol
naga > backbone
dridro >>>>>>>>>> admiral
kaan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
twin bloom
Hadi is best eu MT(low bar but still)
hot onyx
Other than the slightest tank difference, Paris outclasses London everywhere else
twin bloom
naga > backbone
dridro >>>>>>>>>> admiral
kaan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
The gap between kaan provide and admiral dridro not that large
frosty patrol
Paris has a genuinely decent support line
London has the worst in the league
Provide worst FS
twin bloom
London has the worst in the league
Lol
next mesa
Mid last year = below average this year as the league is actively growing in tal...
wrong they have striker
twin bloom
What
frosty patrol
Who has a worse support line than london
twin bloom
London supports are barely worse than paris
frosty patrol
London supports are barely worse than paris
???????
twin bloom
Who has a worse support line than london
Fusion maybe
frosty patrol
Fusion maybe
Aimgod is sizeably better than provide
hot onyx
Fusion maybe
Fuck no, they’re bad but not that bad
frosty patrol
Fusion 2nd worst
hot onyx
Aimgod literally did so much better in Contenders
How the fuck does he get compared to garbage trash like Pr🤮v1de?
frosty patrol
Aimgod literally did so much better in Contenders
2020 aimgod would still be better than provide
twin bloom
Idk what you guys think about provide as a person
vagrant jacinth
Glister hasn't been good in 7 years
Bad take
twin bloom
He's maybe best eu fs
hot onyx
But he's a good player
He got benched for Lastro and was mid in EU contenders, please tell me you’re trolling
twin bloom
He got benched for Lastro and was mid in EU contenders, please tell me you’re tr...
???
He was released
Before owl started
frosty patrol
He was mid in EU contenders and not even top 3 in NA contenders
hot onyx
Top 2!?
twin bloom
Only behind UV
frosty patrol
Top 2 in NAC
Simple > provide, ultraviolet > provide, etc
hot onyx
Mans had a worse performance than Simple and Majed
tawdry hamlet
He's maybe best eu fs
I don't think provide is as bad as they say but best eu flex support is literally against like boombox the one guy and majed lmao
twin bloom
Thanks for changin my view point
twin bloom
I don't think provide is as bad as they say but best eu flex support is literall...
I think he's even with kaan
At his peak
But whatever
Doesn't matter tho
London will be terrible
So will paris
hot onyx
Don’t insult Kaan like that
tawdry hamlet
Kaan has one good Ana nade and he's top 5 flex supports 💪 omg new star !
hot onyx
He could be a little ooga booga brain sometimes but he was good mechanically
And Jmac coaching can easily iron that out
No amount of coaching can iron out the problems Pr🤮v1de has
As a player and as a person
tawdry hamlet
Honestly I think the league is a lot closer than people will admit because they're so used to region differences
twin bloom
I wanna bet money provide does better than crimzo next season
frosty patrol
Kaan isn’t top 12 even but the 19th best fs is better than provide by a good margin and kaan is not 19
twin bloom
Who will be benched for mickd
tawdry hamlet
Hehe
twin bloom
Anyway sadly
tawdry hamlet
Crimzo got mad overrated last year because his duo was throwing 90 percent of games lmao
twin bloom
Kaan isn’t top 12 even but the 19th best fs is better than provide by a good mar...
The gap isn't that large lmao. Literally every NA and EU pro hypes the fuck putta provide
vagrant jacinth
This gotta be bait. I don't think provide has done anything to make me think he's good
tawdry hamlet
Jake and Joobi goated main support lineup
twin bloom
Ok
frosty patrol
Crimzo got mad overrated last year because his duo was throwing 90 percent of ga...
Wrong
hot onyx
The gap isn't that large lmao. Literally every NA and EU pro hypes the fuck put...
Maybe they oughta hype the fuck outa a good player lmao
frosty patrol
He got mad overrated last year because his team started 7-1 with him one tricking bap heals into jjanggu
tawdry hamlet
Honestly I think they're so close it doesn't matter
twin bloom
Paris is not the worst team in the leagur
They only downgraded from last season
And they lost to defiant
frosty patrol
Honestly I think they're so close it doesn't matter
Paris and Mayhem are in another tier
twin bloom
Who sucked
frosty patrol
London are fucking awful
twilit oriole
London is bottom, then mayhem, then paris
frosty patrol
London is bottom, then mayhem, then paris
CORRECT FORGOODKING TAKE
twilit oriole
Who sucked
The finished 7th NA good improvement👍 and it was known Toronto where better than defiant lol good rivalry thou
All map 5s
hot onyx
I’m afraid Boston is bottom, then London and Paris
twin bloom
IDK lmao london upgarded to be even with paris 2021 roster and paris didn't do shit besides sign a washed HS
Lmao
twilit oriole
CORRECT FORGOODKING TAKE
😁😊
twin bloom
Boston also terrible
twilit oriole
Like on all levels
frosty patrol
IDK lmao london upgarded to be even with paris 2021 roster and paris didn't do s...
How did London upgrade?
twin bloom
Bottom 4 NA
twin bloom
How did London upgrade?
They wen't from kellex to admiral
tawdry hamlet
London traded molf for poko and two ladder players for new supports lmao
twin bloom
Which is massive
frosty patrol
Fuck it I take Blase Ripa over Backbone Provide
twin bloom
Fuck it I take Blase Ripa over Backbone Provide
You'r just wrong
tawdry hamlet
I wouldn't put Ripa over provide lmao
twilit oriole
Yeah Boston are ass but London are even asser
tawdry hamlet
I don't even care for provide but he's far above Ripa
hot onyx
Backbone > Blasè Ripa =/> Pr🤮v1de
twin bloom
London upgraded every postion
Other than Ot
Maybe
But molf was kinda washed
Last season
frosty patrol
Daan = Hadi in OW2
Vestola =< Poko
Sparkr >= Glister
Naga > Backbone
Dridro > Admiral
Kaan > Provide
twin bloom
It will be funny when next season starts
And paris are bottom 2
It would be funny
Really funny
frosty patrol
Paris could be bottom 2 and sizeably better than london
hot onyx
And Boston
next mesa
kaan is pretty good
twin bloom
Paris could be bottom 2 and sizeably better than london
Sizeably better like
tawdry hamlet
Striker is gonna flop on Boston
next mesa
blasé
frosty patrol
London are going to have a record marginally better than valiant last year
tawdry hamlet
Idk man both of those rosters are eu contenders it will be a lot closer than 3-0
Since realistically the gap between eu contenders teams can't be that big
frosty patrol
Since realistically the gap between eu contenders teams can't be that big
Yes it can
EU contenders has silly bad rosters
tawdry hamlet
Unless one team has the worst contenders roster in the region but admiral is literally the best free agent one that was there
frosty patrol
And silly mid rosters
hot onyx
Can’t wait for the discrimination bowl between London and Boston 
frosty patrol
Can’t wait for the discrimination bowl between London and Boston <:Morcy:5870100...
They’re gonna give provide and mcd a 1v1
twin bloom
London goes 0-2 opening week but they beat paris
Because london has a competant tracer
And a not washed HS
tawdry hamlet
My point is they literally picked from the top two rosters in eu contenders so the difference is only going to be the difference between those two
frosty patrol
Glister is just ans lite, his widow is good and uhhhhhh
uhhhhhhhhhhh
not much else
tawdry hamlet
Like unless glister and Kaan are truly that much better than London I think they're pretty even
frosty patrol
My point is they literally picked from the top two rosters in eu contenders so t...
Provide and backbone are the key diff points
twin bloom
Glister is just ans lite, his widow is good and uhhhhhh
Glister got hard gapped by aspire in his first owl game. Aspire was a western player that joined a full kr team last minute and barely had any scrim time. Aspire still better
Just what it is
frosty patrol
And daan’s hero pool and flexibility might shine
tawdry hamlet
And aspire isn't even the best na hitscan either
frosty patrol
Glister got hard gapped by aspire in his first owl game. Aspire was a western p...
Single games don’t matter
tawdry hamlet
frosty patrol
An aggregate performance is a far better measure than a single game
twin bloom
Dude was splittin playtime with anz
frosty patrol
Aspire was a monster for a weekend and then was meh
twin bloom
Aspire was a monster for a weekend and then was meh
No he just got put on an off role
tawdry hamlet
Hydron Mirror Checkmate is the goatee dps lineup tho
frosty patrol
Under your logic twilight’s ana is worse than kariv’s
tawdry hamlet
It doesn't get any more overpowered than that
frosty patrol
kariv hard diffed him
twin bloom
kariv hard diffed him
3 years ago
hot onyx
And even on tracer he was a heavy upgrade to Na1st
frosty patrol
3 years ago
Aspire thing was literally 11 months before this season will start
twin bloom
Aspire thing was literally 11 months before this season will start
Aspire was better on Glister on an off role
While on a way worse team
tawdry hamlet
It was also the most recent overwatch season so like it actually has weight tbf since they literally haven't played since s4 so s4 is the best metric to rank them I'd think
twin bloom
Nero was the best dps on shock by a large margain last season
frosty patrol
It was also the most recent overwatch season so like it actually has weight tbf ...
Early s4 isn’t a great metric
Otherwise piggy top 3 ot
twin bloom
Otherwise piggy top 3 ot
I mean in NA
frosty patrol
And crimzo top 10
twin bloom
He was prolly top 5
frosty patrol
He was prolly top 5
Yes
tawdry hamlet
Aspire didn't play in the cringe rush first month he joined second month grrr
twin bloom
Maybe space?
frosty patrol
But if you use the start of s1 piggy is top 3 owl
twin bloom
Fury
frosty patrol
Maybe space?
Space >>> piggy
tawdry hamlet
That first month of s4 where all the Mickey mouse teams played well with rein then sucked ass all season after setting such high expectations
twin bloom
S4 stage 1 was just when the good teams played rush
And lost to mid
Teams on dive
Thats why reign sucked
But mayhem were good
frosty patrol
That wasn’t even the reason mayhem did well
They didn’t have oge issues yet
They always set in 1+ stage into the year
twin bloom
They didn’t have oge issues yet
That only lasted a week
frosty patrol
But after they do your team is boomed
tawdry hamlet
Oge got diffed by mag even when Florida won the play ins in the first month imo
Lmao
frosty patrol
Oge fucked until that team lost may melee
frosty patrol
Oge got diffed by mag even when Florida won the play ins in the first month imo
Oge mtd’d mag’s rein
When mag later became a top 5 rein
tawdry hamlet
Neptunomegalul
twin bloom
They just got lucky cause schedule
And meta
They also had a close game vs london
After that
tawdry hamlet
Mechanically Yaki gnj gargoyle bqb are all at least B tier minimum so that's what's so sadge
twin bloom
Fla also had a somewhat close game vs titans
twin bloom
Mechanically Yaki gnj gargoyle bqb are all at least B tier minimum so that's wha...
Yaki is like a or s the rest are c
frosty patrol
Yaki is like a or s the rest are c
We’re saying mechanically
Even slime was p good mechanically
tawdry hamlet
Joobi moment lmao
tawdry hamlet
Idk why they tried a collegiate Lucio player in owl when they hit so well on piggy jjangu
frosty patrol
Idk why they tried a collegiate Lucio player in owl when they hit so well on pig...
Joobi could’ve been cracked with time to develop and a full season lucio meta
tawdry hamlet
Like crimzo happy was always gonna be mid but joobi was just throwing lmao
frosty patrol
Only possible conditions for good joobi
tawdry hamlet
Like crimzo happy was always gonna be mid but joobi was just throwing lmao
As far as picking up roster members he's throwing not literally throwing games loll
frosty patrol
Not last season
Slime was at least capable of other heroes to some extent
trim shadow
Florida had one great game
and this year florida is gonna repeat
went from hopium to a funeral
north relic
Nero was the best dps on shock by a large margain last season
Wrong
Viol2t 6 taps your s tier hitscan without missing once
north relic
I only watch his streams for the crosshairs
north relic
Shu can probably 1v1 fearless
frosty patrol
^
frosty patrol
Bap’s time to kill on a winston is 2.01 seconds
Winston’s time to kill on a bap is 3.3 seconds
north relic
Bap’s time to kill on a winston is 2.01 seconds
Is this headshots only though
frosty patrol
Yes
north relic
How much hp is lamp again
frosty patrol
half headshots would be 3.02 seconds
north relic
Plus regen burst
frosty patrol
Still faster than monkey
north relic
Monkeys only chance is shield dancing perfectly
frosty patrol
5.63 seconds
north relic
Shu can just break bubble by himself and still have time to kill a monkey
Stupid
Me when a support easily has the advantage over a dive tank in a 1v1
earnest leaf
Any winston that has a slight idea how to shield dance is killing the bapt
And if the bapt burns all his CDs, winston wins
north relic
Any winston that has a slight idea how to shield dance is killing the bapt
Bap has enough time to break bubble then kill monkey
earnest leaf
If the winston stands still
frosty patrol
We just did the math that winston can’t go through all of baps cds before bap breaks bubble and likely kills him
frosty patrol
Bap can avoid a good bit of damage by jumping too
frosty patrol
Cant melee jump him cause bap jump
frosty patrol
u guys arent factoring the bap jump
^^^
frosty patrol
Monkey jump is obsolete because of bap jump lmao
next mesa
shu can easily dodge the jump tho
like just go high ground
when monkey jumps up just drop down
and jump up again
north relic
Is the arena just workshop chamber?
Like if it’s inside eichenwalde castle shu is kinda screwed
frosty patrol
Factoring in either jump is ridiculously hard math and requires much assumption
north relic
We can just say it’s like 60-40 depending on bap mechs
tropic herald
Realistically this 1v1 doesn’t matter Bc the brig that sits with the Bap just flails the monkey
🥶
earnest leaf
I can tell none of you play winston
tropic herald
Genji 😼🤞
north relic
I can tell none of you play winston
Let’s get sans on monkey and Ian on bap
north relic
Bap brig beats monkey dva in a 2v2 right
north relic
vs levy tracer and sans monkey
Ian is going to use lamp like it’s a fire strike
tropic herald
Idk
Brig Bap don’t necessarily win it but they halt the actual interaction from things happening Bc they just don’t die
frosty patrol
Bap brig beats monkey dva in a 2v2 right
No because dva is busted
north relic
They don’t kill but they don’t die?
frosty patrol
Dva has insane combos with boosters melee missile primary fire
tropic herald
Tracer is a good hero I think
north relic
Nah tracer sucks
frosty patrol
Brig bapt lose without ults 9/10
Chain heal for 15 years
tropic herald
Idk I just play brig and prevent the interaction from happening lol
willow tartan
Brig bapt lose without ults 9/10
good thing they build ult every fight
tacit skiff
Brig bapt lose without ults 9/10
any hero without ults lose 9/10 times to winston tracer
north relic
Winston tracer doesn’t
tacit skiff
🤨
tropic herald
Only reason teams haven’t signed me yet is Bc id be too good for them
Scare away the competition
next mesa
honestly like if u take the best winston tracers they would probably beat the best bap brig
like id take fearless fleta diving on a backline of shu skewed even if they peeled perfectly
north relic
Real
tropic herald
What
noble nexus
He’s better overall?
balmy wolf
~
north relic
Best Ana in the league now that alarm is gone?
noble nexus
Oh no I’m just choosing to ignore it because you’re dumb
north relic
Is it twilight
noble nexus
Twilight prolly
north relic
Fielder izayaki are close also
frosty patrol
Best Ana in the league now that alarm is gone?
Twilight fielder izayaki aztac
north relic
Twilight fielder izayaki aztac
Are you trolling with the last pick
noble nexus
I’d say izayaki is the clear #2
frosty patrol
Are you trolling with the last pick
Yes
noble nexus
Mmonk ana is goated
north relic
I’d say izayaki is the clear #2
Didn’t you just say twilight prolly
north relic
Oh ok
What about best zen
It’s so sad that the best zen and Ana is gone
Izayaki is probably
north relic
shu is much better than viol2t at bap
He was arguing about mechanics but it’s shu
north relic
Shu is a crackhead at mechanics
frosty patrol
Izayaki is the best zen
frosty patrol
Followed closely by coldest
north relic
I like mmonk zen
noble nexus
Cope
frosty patrol
mmonk is a tier on everything
next mesa
mmonk zen is quite nice
his ana tho
way better than faraway's
faraway's zen is pretty good
sullen berry
Watching Ark VODs from season 2 stage 2
frosty patrol
Actually Ark's mercy play is near perfect
Jesus
He just hides for 15 years
Which is how you play it
I'd need full map view to roast it
frosty patrol
Watching Ark VODs from season 2 stage 2
They have been scrubbed off the internet
north relic
They have been scrubbed off the internet
by who
north relic
how far back does the owl replay viewer go
frosty patrol
how far back does the owl replay viewer go
didn't even exist in s2
north relic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QxKN4Y_5Eg
is this real
north relic
pine appearance
frosty patrol
He's in such deep meditation that Pine puts a hat on him
I actually had like a 2 year crush on JJoNak
north relic
who didnt
balmy wolf
duna has bad takes
balmy wolf
i think viol2t has the best zen
earnest leaf
Viol2t zen still fucked hard last season
balmy wolf
yes
earnest leaf
His best hero easily
balmy wolf
i think viol2t moira and zen are great
earnest leaf
Viol2t better zen
frosty patrol
Viol2t better zen
Did you watch owl?
balmy wolf
viol2t is always the best zen
next mesa
constructed alternatively
balmy wolf
just cause viol2ts team lost doesnt mean viol2t was bad
balmy wolf
viol2t was still great s4
earnest leaf
Not on zen
frosty patrol
Finn and Vigilante are the new kids on the flex support block and are gonna jump everyone else
top 2
balmy wolf
vigilante?
frosty patrol
Yes
earnest leaf
I think finn easily rivals top FSs atm on mechanics
frosty patrol
Vigilante will either be good or a fucking worldbeater
frosty patrol
Can the justice duplicate vigilante and have him start over opener
lost thicket
I wanted Dallas to give Xzi a second chance during this off season sadge, Sparkle/Xzi was so good
also I joined around 10/12/2021
according to my oldest text on this server
willow tartan
if Diem didn't get signed then Xzi wouldn'tve either.
but good thing Diem IS getting signed
trim shadow
xzi wanted to stay in korea
still time to sign with seoul
north relic
yea because fits wasnt enough
frosty patrol
xzi to guangzhou
trim shadow
i mean fuck dallas has the god damn all star em squad
so i wouldnt be suprised front office said fuck it you know that cracked kid xzi?
yea sign his ass give him 300k
plus my forecast says 5v5 will be dps dominated so its no longer. about flex and main dps its more about starpower and flex
worn falcon
That's the coldest take
balmy wolf
frozen take
north relic
That's the coldest take
the coldest take is a take about coldest
next mesa
And nohill
vagrant jacinth
Tbf I think valiant will be very competitive this season
vagrant jacinth
Is it hot?
north relic
very hot
vagrant jacinth
Literally anythings an upgrade over their last roster
All I want is for diya to pound
north relic
Literally anythings an upgrade over their last roster
so hot
trim shadow
something like
twin bloom
Fusion roster underrated
trim shadow
- shanghai
2.philadelphia
3.chengdu
4.hangzhou
5.guangzhou
6th. valiant
uk what chengdu might be better then philly
if fury isn’t peaking off the gate
earnest leaf
chengdu/seoul above philly tbh
trim shadow
oo right seoul
honestly its fine i left them out
loosing jjonak hurts
and idk where they stand
earnest leaf
top 3 apac unless they mental boom imo
north relic
cdh seoul shanghi top 3 are a lock
north relic
unless you are sans and think spark beats seoul
hollow bough
they can have a real tank lineup now if they don't throw
trim shadow
well yea smurf but
that veteran prescence is key
well i guess fits is a full vet at this point
earnest leaf
Seoul have top players in every role except FS
north relic
many teams think fs is a very important role
so creative has to step up
and not be a bottom fs off ana
trim shadow
well its basically third dps now depending on hero and reworks probably
trim shadow
02 player
north relic
where he lived at the age of 7
hollow bough
lol
north relic
i just know that vindaim is a little decent at brig
hollow bough
he pretty much just turned 18 so i don't doubt he was waiting to get picked up
he looks like a main supp
this doesnt look bad either
north relic
its 02
trim shadow
he looks like he was backup
hollow bough
i will have to look
north relic
he looks like he was backup
he benched the starter on brig
north relic
idk how rusha had philly 2
vagrant jacinth
No clue
next mesa
Seoul have top players in every role except FS
Damn bro if only we had a really good fs 😔😔
Vindaim
Here's what u need to know
worn falcon
Fusion with aimgod it's 
next mesa
Prodigy
vagrant jacinth
Don't see a world in which they do
next mesa
Literal prodigy
He's been playing pro for like a year a year and a half
Benches chiyo
Super good brig
Rest of his heroes are a question mark
But brig relevant so I don't care
vagrant jacinth
He was fucking in contendies last I saw him
And if ow2 is very dps centric, he'll pop
worn falcon
It's gonna take like a month for the people realize how to play ow2
vagrant jacinth
Yeah
worn falcon
First tourney gonna be full memes
vagrant jacinth
First few weeks is gonna be all over the place
worn falcon
Wat
trim shadow
BUT
vagrant jacinth
?
next mesa
Fury is not like
worn falcon
How it's carpe fucking the league?
next mesa
A top ot anymore
trim shadow
well hes tanking
trim shadow
How it's carpe fucking the league?
metaphor u widget
worn falcon
You're talking nonsense mostly
vagrant jacinth
I think he can bounce back
vagrant jacinth
You're talking nonsense mostly
Honestly yeah
trim shadow
FUCKing the leauge means he was DESTROYING teams
worn falcon
Anyways, forgot defiant got 3 year contract with the current roster too
vagrant jacinth
Lmao, didn't read like that
vagrant jacinth
Don't think thats enough to warrant philly at number 2
worn falcon
3 years with this team
trim shadow
carpe is one of the dps you need
vagrant jacinth
Carpe will be carpe but furys still a question mark
vagrant jacinth
,^^
trim shadow
aimgod
worn falcon
Then fury
And the others guys gonna prove their place
Because isn't the same coming from contender to being stomped in league.
Wait, forgot they don't have a MT either
vagrant jacinth
Exactly
worn falcon
vagrant jacinth
Philly has too many unknowns to put in second
worn falcon
And then coaching
Yep, definitely not top 3 anymore
Valiant on the other hand makes me think may or may not work
trim shadow
Philly has too many unknowns to put in second
but its the perfect scenario for carpe to deadlift everygame
vagrant jacinth
Valiant 4th I'd say
worn falcon
I mean, other teams are still stupidly strong
Over philly
First philly match vs SHD
vagrant jacinth
3-0 dragons let's go
vagrant jacinth
Isn't their roster done?
worn falcon
It is?
north relic
Also I need nyxl news
yes
north relic
doing great since yaki joined
worn falcon
Kellan, Myunb0ng, Yaki, Gangnamjin, Flora
balmy wolf
lets go
vagrant jacinth
Oh yeah they need to finalise a 6an roster
worn falcon
vagrant jacinth
I'm sure the deadline is soon so
worn falcon
They need someone playing the other heroes
vagrant jacinth
Maybe not too long for your ny news
worn falcon
March 1 is the deadline to have 6 man
next mesa
kellan is good not great
earnest leaf
Damn bro if only we had a really good fs 😔😔
Seoul has a A tier FS at best
Will get gapped vs any top team
north relic
Maybe not too long for your ny news
they probably already had 6 players for a while
vagrant jacinth
Yeah, most likely
worn falcon
Vindaim/Creative?
vagrant jacinth
They can announce it in their own time
next mesa
vindaim doesnt get gapped
earnest leaf
I'm talking about Creative
next mesa
I'm talking about Creative
they are uploading jjonak's mechanics into him as we speak
no worries
earnest leaf
Even with jjonak they would get gapped by top teams there
worn falcon
People living too high on jjonak
earnest leaf
He's good, just a tier below the top FSs
north relic
consistently making me depressed
next mesa
nah you guys tie nyxl's shit performances in recent years with him
when jjonak deadlifts them on a daily
with flora
earnest leaf
tbf isn't hard to deadlift those teams