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#esports-discussion
balmy wolf
naist was cool
next mesa
Like he could be the fdps of a top 4 team if the rest of the roster was top 4 material
balmy wolf
naist carried that fight with a good blade
if naist didnt get any kills there
oh boy
frosty patrol
Valentine sometimes
Blase
Teru
Molanran
Feather
Architect
Might be forgetting people
Naist is as good as the team around him
devout path
Valentine best player in the world
north relic
Might be forgetting people
Kevster
balmy wolf
Valentine best player in the world
no
north relic
Whoru isn’t that good
balmy wolf
Ur mom go to sleep
!@#$ you
next mesa
addi w another banger
trail perch
Whoru isn’t that good
whoru is insane at the 3 characters that he needs to play
If there's ever a genji/doom/pharah meta
He can dominate
trail perch
yeah but whoru better
north relic
Maybe at genji but not pharah or doom
north relic
How long ago was that
north relic
Doesn’t matter?
trail perch
whether its 2015 or 2020
north relic
Essenzhou with another bad take
balmy wolf
Essenzhou with another bad take
As always
north relic
Gesture was really good s1 so he was a top tier main tank s4
trail perch
trail perch
Gesture was really good s1 so he was a top tier main tank s4
mechanics...
Tank different than dps
also
Bad comparisons again
north relic
Every dps has insane mechanics
trail perch
And gesture has always had great primals
even in s4
his primal mechanics were cracked
trail perch
yeah, but for dps all you need are cracked mechanics
thats why you cant use gesture as a counterpoint kekw
north relic
why isn’t ans #1 dps then
north relic
Was
trail perch
then he switched to valorant
and built opposite muscle memory
for different game
while whoru has been playing ever since
and has always looked insane
even on nyxl he was cracked
shd when he played he looked cracked
His mechanics have never ever ever been called onto question
Which is all he needs to specialize in 3 characters
north relic
I never questioned mechanics lip doom fleta pharah is just better
trail perch
Not if they dont practice
and he does
Remember he is there to play 3 heros
Basically a mangachu
a silly hero specialist
north relic
3 irrelevant heroes
trail perch
So ofc he's better than them on those
trail perch
3 irrelevant heroes
bro thats the point
they are irrelevent who get played once in a blue moon
so theres no reason to have ur starters practice them
north relic
Whoru isn’t good because he plays 3 irrelevant heroes
trail perch
But when they do become meta
if you dont have a good one you die
Look at 2020 genji
2019 doom
pharah at some point when pharmacy was good
north relic
But when they do become meta
Ok ok what are we arguing about here
trail perch
Whoru isn’t that good
i just said he was good
and u said he wasnt
he's just a good player
he does what he needs well
thats it
north relic
He is good at the dps he plays
trail perch
Yeah he's a good player
north relic
But you wouldn’t want him on your team as a starter
trail perch
He's not meant to be a starter
if he was
he would prob be a good one
if he practiced those heros
north relic
If he practiced
north relic
I can agree that whoru is a good player but only on the heroes he plays which are all irrelevant
Dps requires you to hyper flex nowadays
So he isn’t a “good player” more like a good doom/genji/pharah
I just contradicted myself
gg
worn falcon
Whoru have championship under the belt
north relic
So does taiyo
worn falcon
God gamers
trail perch
Whoru have championship under the belt
more than 1
2 apex titles
and 2 contenders titles
and an owl title
next mesa
Lip doom fleta pharah/genji are elite
whoru's better tbh
actually pharah is debatable
fleta pharah very nice
also really lip doom LMAO
trail perch
Levy based
next mesa
like yeah it'd be nice to have two fletas on the team
but why not have a specialist that's better at certain heroes in case summer showdown 2.0 happen again
north relic
that's not his role
I mean as a player overall not just on the shanghai dragons
next mesa
he wouldn't be a top tier fdps player on other teams
although his other heroes like mei echo are still solid
trail perch
he wouldn't be a top tier fdps player on other teams
i think he could be tho
next mesa
def
trail perch
He's like a haksal if haksal was never required to flex
I mean they were literally peers back in apex
north relic
You can’t be a top tier player if you only play doom genji pharah
If he expanded his pool he would
next mesa
he only needs to play doom genji pharah
on his current team
if he was on a different team we'll see more
north relic
he only needs to play doom genji pharah
He doesn’t though
I don’t really see a reason for benching fleta or lip
They are both good at the heroes he plays and they can flex if needed
noble nexus
Jinmu = whoru except atleast one of Jinmu’s 3 good heroes is meta often
north relic
jinmu is whoru but he has a good sombra
trail perch
I don’t really see a reason for benching fleta or lip
I do
Cause hes nutty on those 3 characters
He's at this point probably one of the best genji dooms and pharahs in the world
next mesa
whoru's genji is much better than jinmu's
trail perch
the only reason he's signed
is to bench them
on those heros
I want another genji tracer dive meta
north relic
The only reason whoru is signed is to rot on the bench
trail perch
just to see fleta whoru
next mesa
whoru's existence is literally just to prevent another summer showdown
trail perch
whoru's existence is literally just to prevent another summer showdown
or a 2019 playoffs
trail perch
^^^
next mesa
like a pump all that nano juicer into me i will hard carry and swing my big pp around
fleta not like that
trail perch
yeah fleta not a carry type
neither is lip
They carry
but arent like carry types
if you know what i mean
Im really bad at explaining it
north relic
Lip can carry
trail perch
its about the vibes
No they both carry
Fleta literally has the deadlift named after him
north relic
They both carry but they don’t “carry”
noble nexus
Oh so genji players?
noble nexus
Ta1yo type best
trail perch
striker and decay are carry types
north relic
super carries because he is a genji player
noble nexus
Trueeew
trail perch
The kind to just clearly drag their team through fights and games by themselves
worn falcon
Decay overrated
noble nexus
Facts
north relic
Trueeew
trail perch
yeah but still
noble nexus
Just like carpe
trail perch
He is a carry type
north relic
Trueeew
noble nexus
He’s only a carry type because he’s been on bad teams since joining the league
next mesa
proper is more of a carry type than pelican
worn falcon
No, carpe is true carry
trail perch
No its just his playstyle
noble nexus
Carpe is mid af
worn falcon
Ur mom is mid af >:(
next mesa
playstyle is im gonna go in and use my pure mechanics to just fuck you
trail perch
yeah
next mesa
real deep
noble nexus
And you think he’s actually gonna get playtime because of that play style
On a team like Shanghai
Or am I missing something here
north relic
playstyle is im gonna go in and use my pure mechanics to just fuck you
Sounds like yaki
He will carry
Trust
noble nexus
Yikes
north relic
you’re just mad that glads are going to lose first match of the season
next mesa
Sounds like yaki
yaki is a carry type yes
north relic
They are going 0-2 since they are against Boston
north relic
Proper gets benched
noble nexus
If it’s tracer meta first week both of glads’ games are gonna be sick tracer matchups
north relic
It’s s9mm violet
They got Finn not for double flex support but for violet to play dps
noble nexus
It’s all fun and games till he 6 taps your S tier hitscan player without missing bro
Keep talking shit
north relic
across the map
noble nexus
With relative ease
north relic
While getting primal juggled
noble nexus
Whilst anti naded
north relic
While shattered because super got mtd’d and glads are running monkey rein in ow2
balmy wolf
It’s all fun and games till he 6 taps your S tier hitscan player without missing bro
noble nexus
Space rein
balmy wolf
no
noble nexus
😳😳
balmy wolf
no space rein
noble nexus
Stfu mystary
balmy wolf
:(
noble nexus
Mag is dog water and so are Empathy’s opinions
north relic
Empathy’s argument is that mag has a worse team than fearless
But fearless just built diff
noble nexus
He’s like the linkzr of MT
north relic
If mag was there instead of fearless I don’t think Dallas does as well
noble nexus
Good one week but shit the next week
Oh yeah 100% they don’t
They probably still do fairly well
north relic
They might lose to glads or reign
noble nexus
Yeah they make it close against glads, reign and shock
And make like a countdown cup run or something
Nothing crazy tho
north relic
Thinking about it how can you be bad at orisa if you are a top tier mt player
Not bad necessarily
noble nexus
If you’re arguably top 3 on winston, either really good or dogshit on rein and unremarkable on orisa you’re probably not a top tier MT by owl standards
And his ball was bad
He has a fuck ton of potential tho
north relic
If you’re arguably top 3 on winston, either really good or dogshit on rein and u...
Who you talking about
cedar oasis
Mag is mid
noble nexus
I just don’t think justice is gonna be good at all
north relic
I put stock into his rein
north relic
But he’s inconsistent asf
I don’t think it’s mag fault justice as a whole was inconsistent as fuck
noble nexus
Smurf would like to have a word about that
noble nexus
I don’t think it’s mag fault justice as a whole was inconsistent as fuck
Well when he’s on a different team he can prove me wrong lmao
north relic
Well when he’s on a different team he can prove me wrong lmao
He is in justice jail
noble nexus
He’s stuck in justice jail
Yeah it’s tragic tbh
Because I don’t think they’re gonna be good next season either
north relic
Top 8 during the season isn’t bad
And justice only upgraded
But yes I don’t trust them
They will do some annual bed shitting
omg it’s everywhere
gusty rampart
Justice only ever did good in Playoffs 2020
When they were on the Decay Zarya pack
north relic
They did some funny stuff stage 4 2019
hot onyx
There’s too much bed shitting materiel for Justice this season
gusty rampart
Happy was a pretty good pickup
hot onyx
AU Contenders whomegalul as their ms
hot onyx
Vigilante not being able to play for half the season
gusty rampart
Opener
north relic
Happy was a pretty good pickup
When you have decay not really
hot onyx
Supreme getting a second chance to fuck over the Decay Assassin Mag core
north relic
The problem with justice is that they lost their star flex support
hot onyx
I agree
gusty rampart
Assassin is off the team
hot onyx
God I miss TTuba
gusty rampart
Which is probably good because he was a spaghetti spiller
hot onyx
Is he??
gusty rampart
Wait no
hot onyx
Source
gusty rampart
Liquipedia was being stupid
noble nexus
Happy is like the epitome of inconsistency for a hitscan
north relic
No it’s pine
noble nexus
He isn’t gonna fix any of their issues tho
north relic
I thought you were a mercy one trick
north relic
Ur plat brig lucio doesn’t exist
devout path
addi w another banger
Never stopped
north relic
Nice
balmy wolf
thats so sad
sullen berry
even andbox server, a combination of both their COD and OW teams
only has two, which surprises me given how active their server could be
plush grail
twilit oriole
Fr
vagrant jacinth
True
sullen berry
Fr
How'd you know
Do you all just believe his lies because he has God in his name?
trim shadow
charge fan lost all right to speak
sullen berry
I mean he had the content game on lockdown a while ago
frosty patrol
I mean he had the content game on lockdown a while ago
I was watching him before glads
Like right when he retired
sullen berry
He was just underrated in comparison to a lot of casual OW streamers and would be too pro for those tournaments played by KR content creators
frosty patrol
Yep
His vods are also all DMCA rn
NVM
That was just Twitch being mad dumb
It refused to show me his VODs
sullen berry
Sure they're not subscriber locked 🔒
frosty patrol
Sure they're not subscriber locked 🔒
Yes because they loaded now
Also, I'm a sub
Also, sub vods show up on the channel but if you click its like
SUBSCRIBE NOW
sullen berry
I was gifted sub ages ago to Rascal who was my gateway drug to the content you only see in KR Ladder
It can be chaotic than watching clips of players getting randomly queued into OWL vs OWL teams
north relic
i cannot believe it
frosty patrol
i cannot believe it
what?
north relic
I can not fucking believe it
frosty patrol
what?
north relic
I simply REFUSE to believe the absolute imcompetent, negligence
frosty patrol
what?
north relic
how do you still not get it
frosty patrol
what?
north relic
lol
hot onyx
https://twitter.com/bmzloop/status/1494405406374133760?s=21
Damn imagine that language barrier with Super on the team, would’ve probably been smarter to have Smurf instead
tropic herald
Damn imagine that language barrier with Super on the team, would’ve probably bee...
Super would make them all learn English
north relic
only non shock/dragons player profit
north relic
yea
next mesa
fleta profit though
next mesa
what we could have had
worn falcon
Super > Fate > Fearless
frosty patrol
Super would make them all learn English
Half the team has English experience and the other half?
Literally never
tropic herald
fleta profit though
POV Seoul s1
next mesa
nah if fleta didnt leave for dragons in s3
obviously it was the best choice for him
but just what it could've been
seoul s1 fleta was fuckin nasty
trim shadow
https://twitter.com/bmzloop/status/1494405406374133760?s=21
they are asking for war?
wait what is this based off of
accolades? in name not stats
frosty patrol
nah if fleta didnt leave for dragons in s3
Or if Gesture Profit went to Shanghai
next mesa
based off of every first place in platchat
trim shadow
gesture or mano is more decorated then super its just a championship thats lacking
well gesture..hmm
north relic
gesture or mano is more decorated then super its just a championship thats lacki...
no one is as decorated as super on mt
super is like a fridge of a family of 16
you cant get more decorated than that
frosty patrol
gesture and profit wanted to go to korea im pretty sure
This is a what if thing though
Doesn't matter how realistic
earnest leaf
super iirc is either the most decorated or top 3 most decorated player in ow atm
in terms of achievements
maybe top5 at worst
hot onyx
no one is as decorated as super on mt
Smurf
Literally the exact same
Except he got all the playtime in season 2 Playoffs
north relic
has he won role star
hot onyx
He would’ve if Cr0ng wasn’t greedy af
earnest leaf
super also has a WC win
north relic
yea
earnest leaf
he won wc on orisa
won finals on hog
he's never actually ran rein in a finals iirc
hot onyx
Stage 2 season 2
earnest leaf
well yea stage finals I suppose
hot onyx
May Melee season 3
earnest leaf
may melee iirc was a mix of rein/orisa
hot onyx
Which Smurf was in for
frosty patrol
May melee was a lot of orisa in finals
hot onyx
Technically he played kings row in 2020 Countdown Cup
Guess that counts?
And he also played an easy hero during a meta where half the good teams in the league were cucked
north relic
may melee doesnt exist
vagrant jacinth
The tournament formerly known as May melee
balmy wolf
same
earnest leaf
viol2t was still robbed of mvp in s3
balmy wolf
viol2t was still robbed of mvp in s3
yes
robbed
ana wasnt meta
ana was meta i tuink
but viol2t was so good at zen
that they didnt go ana
earnest leaf
His bapt/zen were just above everyone
The only person remotely close was Alarm
throwback to when he took a 2v1 and won it in the finals
and would peak snipers and beat them in duels
worn falcon
That mvp went to fleta right?
north relic
throwback to when he took a 2v1 and won it in the finals
i mean its a widow mercy close quarters
possibly the two worst 1v1 heroes close range
earnest leaf
still a 2v1 vs owl players
balmy wolf
That mvp went to fleta right?
yea?
north relic
WHERE ARE THE TANK PLAYERS
balmy wolf
yeah
worn falcon
Super MVP 2022
north relic
sinatraa was the tank player
the most dps hero in a meta without dps
worn falcon
earnest leaf
If tank is really good next season we might see a potential tank mvp
But the last best chances we had were s2 super or s4 fearless
But both got fucked by their heroes falling out of meta as the season went on
worn falcon
now tanks should shine more since we gonna have 1 tank 
frosty patrol
No idea why plat chat added WC here tho
Not platchat official image
sullen berry
He would’ve if Cr0ng wasn’t greedy af
north relic
He would’ve if Cr0ng wasn’t greedy af
yes its crongs fault he got rolestar
what selfish man
sullen berry
everytime someone talks about OWL starting it gets moved back even further
half rivet
Is the season gonna be even shorter this season?
worn falcon
frosty patrol
Imagine charge finish 6th in apac but then crong develop choisehwan and unique decide to be op
And make a deep run
north relic
I have charge as my apac dark horse
frosty patrol
APACs format is especially stupid because 6/7 teams make playins
NA is 10/13 so not terrible but still bad
north relic
APACs format is especially stupid because 6/7 teams make playins
Rest in piece fusion
frosty patrol
Rest in piece fusion
Yes
frosty patrol
Cant wait for Sans to advocate that apac playins should be all 7 teams
north relic
Fusion wasn’t 2 last year
worn falcon
no, thats spark or charge
north relic
Maybe if fusion get sado
frosty patrol
Do you really want to see fury fixa and aimgod start full time
worn falcon
aimgod gonna beat them
north relic
Fixa aimgod
worn falcon
Aimgod > Bebe
frosty patrol
Fixa aimgod is fucking terrible
north relic
That’s almost as bad as charges mandu kariv last year
frosty patrol
Fixa aimgod is literally as bad as mandu kariv
You’ve got your whomegalul main support and your ana specialist
frosty patrol
I’ll put fixa above mandu
Yes
And I have kariv above aimgod
I suffered through aimgod off ana as a justice fan
north relic
It’s kinda hard comparing the bottom of the barrel
frosty patrol
Yep
north relic
4th is like a s4 paris
frosty patrol
Yes
north relic
No shot they go above shd Chengdu or Seoul
frosty patrol
Shanghai will not be below 1
north relic
Fusions first two matches are Seoul shanghai though
frosty patrol
Chengdu could be 2-3
Seoul 2-3 as well
north relic
They are going to experience a beating
frosty patrol
1-3 are locks
north relic
Seoul and Chengdu fighting for 2nd apac
frosty patrol
Valiant charge spark could place above hunters or seoul but low chance
north relic
Maybe if seoul does some bed shitting
frosty patrol
Like, if Lengsa and Diya are the best thing since sliced bread
And seoul shit bed
Then valiant 3
Innovation too
north relic
Spark can go above Seoul if they don’t do their annual bed shitting with a stacked roster
north relic
hurts to read by it’s actually their weakest role
But guxue isn’t bad whatsoever
So it doesn’t rlly matter
frosty patrol
Guxue isn’t bad
Superich could be outclassed but still be good
Apac is stupid nutty at main support
lengsa ljg vindaim
north relic
It’s vindaim nisha ljg yveltal
north relic
There’s now 4 cracked chinese main supports in owl
Like all of them are top 10 ms in the league also
north relic
Ms is slowly fading as a role though
frosty patrol
Even guys who will realistically be like 8-16 are nutty
Like dridro ojee
Unique
etc
There’s a ton of very good main supports and 4-6 shitters
north relic
MS is actually a stacked role in general now btw
Every role is stacked nowadays
League has leveled up
frosty patrol
Every role is stacked nowadays
MS used to be one of 2 exceptions
north relic
Other is main tank right
next mesa
Superich could be outclassed but still be good
Superich doesn't get outclassed
Superich > chorong vindaim yveltal nisha chiyo
Superich was CLEARLY better than Nisha when they were playing in contenders
north relic
Lengsa roty
Hasn’t lengsa been in the league already
north relic
frosty patrol
nvm
frosty patrol
Lengsa rolestar
Garry owl hall of fame
Wait why is his liquipedia picture flashing gang signs
Garry chinese mafia
north relic
😳
next mesa
Lengsa is great
next mesa
He's definitely second best ms after Superich
gleaming quarry
Viktor Hovland is killing it
north relic
https://www.espn.com/golf/leaderboard
i dont think golf is an esport
unless its on wii sports
gleaming quarry
FOUR BOOGIES DOOOD
🥵
@north relic https://www.golfshake.com/news/view/15301/Golf_Joins_eSports_With_Inaugural_Online_eOpen_Championship.html#:~:text=Golf has become the latest,this year's cancelled Open Championship. you were saying...
north relic
<@!452631000674205696> https://www.golfshake.com/news/view/15301/Golf_Joins_eSpo...
is that a real person or a character
gleaming quarry
is that a real person or a character
Jay McGraw
north relic
standing up in esports
gamers never stand up
also there is grass
gamers have never seen grass
sullen berry
touch it and find out
next mesa
where do you find this "grass"
frosty patrol
Arguably if you're involved in gaming but don't play video games you're more degen than gamers
sullen berry
game devs/project managers like Tracy who left Actiblizz the other week literally do not have the chance to play games
sullen berry
i dunno, how much gaming as Sephy done?
frosty patrol
(Non-pro coaches)
(the people who would rather coach a random 4200 team than play overwatch)
(The people who stay up until 4 AM to watch birdring after taking notes meticulously on his teams scrims)
(definitely not me)
sullen berry
well if you're talking amateur leagues or tier 3, literally anything goes
frosty patrol
(I definitely don't survive on 6 cups of coffee a day and birdring)
frosty patrol
Yes
sullen berry
next mesa
of course i didnt mald when anamo was signed
what
i supported the decision completely 🙂
frosty patrol
4 am - 7 am: watch birdring or sleep more if he doesn't stream
sullen berry
of course gesture wasn't feeding on King's Row during playoffs
next mesa
of course not
sullen berry
he was just big brain making space
literally dragging the defending teams down with him
next mesa
of course we wouldn't have won busan if fits didnt throw his emp
frosty patrol
4 PM - 530 PM: Watch khaleesi bb play mercy and coom (Joke, I usually just play other games here)
sullen berry
fits and lip have one thing in common
frosty patrol
530-6: Eat
sullen berry
the sombra fireworks
frosty patrol
6-8: watch pro VODs
8-10: coach scrims
10-12: take notes
Repeat
Off day today
Thank god
frosty patrol
8-2:30 school
I have to walk 2.5 miles both ways
next mesa
1:30-7:30 sleep
frosty patrol
Adds much time
frosty patrol
The worse thing is
I'm a mentality coach
And I watch khaleesi and birdring
Religiously
To the point of 4 hours sleep
Do I need help Levy?
Or am I on the path to ED level degeneracy
next mesa
seek help
you are beyond our level
perhaps it is time you join #general-discussion
https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1494434078862548996 are u kidding
eh actually might be clickbait
frosty patrol
you are beyond our level
I'm going to find a way to transcend the need for sleep
And evolve further
Gonna drop out of hs too
Become the overwatch esports hobbit
Sell children for money
earnest leaf
that article is pretty clickbaity
sterile juniper
Hey 👋
earnest leaf
just another rich guy who donates to a bunch of politcal people, left and right
sterile juniper
I’m New Here
north relic
I’m New Here
Which team do you support
north relic
Chose wisely
hollow bough
you guys scared him off
take a shower and we can get more people in this chat maybe
frosty patrol
Your answer decides your fate
noble nexus
Your FS is a Xenophobe + ratio
next mesa
u have crimzo + ratio
noble nexus
Although it could be worse
next mesa
🗿
noble nexus
Nyxl fans are kinda clapped now too tbh
hollow bough
First 3 things in my YT recommended are mercy videos
watch all of them
frosty patrol
watch all of them
Why do you think they're all at the top of my recommended
I'm a niandra and khaleesi simp
frosty patrol
[7:58 PM] Dr Deezus: Aspire Shockwave and Seicoe is a Lowkey cracked DPS lineup
[7:59 PM] Dr Deezus: A Battle for Canada this year would be an absolute banger
[8:09 PM] NegDeep: I think Skairipa could pound or atleast be considered very good but not elite by years end
Holy
the bad takes
Skairipa pounds and very good
Seicoe Aspire Shockwave is insane
Titans fans
frosty patrol
skairipa elite
Saved screenshot
For funny out of context
37 PM] Dr Deezus: Gotta say their roster is certainly much better than last year
[7:38 PM] Dr Deezus: Insane upgrade on supports
[7:39 PM] Dr Deezus: Fire Roolf was absolutely the worst support duo
[7:42 PM] Dr Deezus: Their DPS and Supports are probably middle of the table NA, haven't seen false tho so idk for tank
NO WAY
THEY THINK TITANS HAVE 6-7TH BEST SUPPORTS AND DPS IN NA
"masaa skairipa elite"
will be their next take
balmy wolf
> 37 PM] Dr Deezus: Gotta say their roster is certainly much better than last ye...
fire roolf was a good take
but the support line being mid?
no
they are lower then mid
hollow bough
its automatic
worn falcon
Just be active and not banned or muted for things
frosty patrol
wait the gift of god
hollow bough
it bugged out, you got it
the bot updates every day and adds roles but you qualified, it just didnt refresh yet
worn falcon
lol
frosty patrol
sullen berry
!!will Guangzhou make it to the first tournament finals due to strength of schedule?
young fractalBOT
Signs point to yes.
fallen turret
Aztac massa has potential
gusty rampart
Kenobi acts like they won't face Dragons every stage
tawdry hamlet
Literally in apac just be able to beat chengdu and you make every tourney semi-final
Then lose to Shanghai
Nyxl seoul chengdu gonna trade around second in apac I thinks
sullen berry
Throw APAC into new game territory, I think people will start throwing hands
Not every season, most of all NA has been a wash
next mesa
Nyxl seoul chengdu gonna trade around second in apac I thinks
Nyxl is na
U noob
Seoul would've easily been second but without jjonak yeah it's tough to say
sullen berry
Whose going to be their prodigy flex support again
Bdosin want to come back to save this team or let someone else look cool 
Maybe carcar
worn falcon
Freefeeeeeeeel
sullen berry
Seoul Dynasty Hydration, the best hyperflex god since Libero
hot onyx
Goated support line
willow tartan
wym man superich is the best chinese contenders main support
sullen berry
mmonk and molly smh
north relic
Wait do you use compact discord
frosty patrol
Wait do you use compact discord
Yes
north relic
Unironically worse than light mode
willow tartan
Big up lengsa
superich shouldve been in 2021
frosty patrol
Lengsa role star
north relic
Lengsa role star
Unfortunately a main support
I wouldn’t be surprised if role stars are all flex supports this year
Ljg might be the saving grace though
frosty patrol
League should have role stars on each position
noble nexus
They already have their OT
north relic
Are there any rumours for valiants tank?
I wanted to save it until they announce it but I’m actually the valiant main tank
vagrant jacinth
They do?
vagrant jacinth
I wanted to save it until they announce it but I’m actually the valiant main ta...
Oh dear
willow tartan
Ljg might be the saving grace though
chad ljg gets rolestar third year in a row
vagrant jacinth
He absolutely could
north relic
Ljg gets bullied and benched by Bebe
balmy wolf
yes
hot onyx
Pretty sure Woohyal is a player-coach
frosty patrol
Pretty sure Woohyal is a player-coach
Liquipedia is god
hot onyx
Liquipedia is god
Not good enough
frosty patrol
The tweet says “woohyal as our assistant coach”
Nothing about player coach from valiant
noble nexus
Where OT
Empathy lied to me man I was under the impression he was a player coach
Like Jake but actually competent
sullen berry
The tweet says “woohyal as our assistant coach”
hold on then who is the head coach?
same guy from last year?
frosty patrol
Wait so empathy is behind woohyal mandela effect
sullen berry
when do we get more of the Cheez-It Grooves effect
devout path
@tropic herald u lied to us
sullen berry
off tank woohyal 🟩 he doesn't know
hot onyx
Alright there isn’t enough controversy here
Charge Fusion and Valiant
Who is bottom apac?
sullen berry
Valiant overhyped, but given they're starting from the bottom they're not staying there all season
neither would charge
surely fusion will come back this season hopium
hot onyx
Purely speculation but it depends wether or not Charge keep Rio
noble nexus
Charge permabottom
frosty patrol
Fusion easily
Cr0ng as the only tank is so much better than fury
DPS fusion win
Supports charge are much much better
sullen berry
easily
hot onyx
I mean
Call it heavy copium
But Aimgod looked a lot better on Team CC than he did on Justice
frosty patrol
I don’t think you realize how little dps matters on bad teams
But yes aimgod is prob like low mid now
hot onyx
Mid low mid*
balmy wolf
UV top tier
frosty patrol
mn3 will not carry fusion to be above charge and valiant
balmy wolf
ty
frosty patrol
Like upper mid/good
hot onyx
That’s a cool opinion Marbel, but unfortunately I do not see anybody that asked for miles
hot onyx
Why has only 1 Falcons player been signed by a team?
Also
Aztac is elite*
Not Skairipa
frosty patrol
Aztac is elite*
Have you ever talked to a titans fan
They think aztac is their bad bench boy and skairipa is elite
hot onyx
4 dps players?
noble nexus
Spitfire should just stop being bad tbh
hot onyx
Have you seen the budget they’re working with???
noble nexus
They had 4 last year
Tbf one of them was blasé
hot onyx
The only reason Hybrid was signed was because of SparkR being underage for half the season
noble nexus
Pretty sure I could sign that guy with the change in my pocket rn
frosty patrol
I could probably give hybrid 25 bucks to join my od team and throw
willow tartan
what is valiant's first game?
hot onyx
what is valiant's first game?
Spark
hot onyx
Afraid not my good Dragons fan
willow tartan
its doable
frosty patrol
Valiant spark is like 70/30 spark
hot onyx
75/25*
frosty patrol
I do not believe in spark not shitting the bed until they don’t shit the bed
willow tartan
they will make a statement W for their first game of the season
frosty patrol
Gonna waste guxue lige shy pineapple alphayi superich irony by having 29 head coaches
hot onyx
I’m still rooting for Valiant to lose
willow tartan
still salty about being fullheld by 3 off rolers and krystal?
hot onyx
Justice for Rain 😤
hot onyx
still salty about being fullheld by 3 off rolers and krystal?
What part of “Silver3 had higher potential than Mano last season” isn’t in your brain?
willow tartan
what part of you're blaming mano to cope for the disastrous performance of the fusion do you not understand
in the whole of Overwatch Esports I am willing to bet you are the only individual who thinks this way
frosty patrol
Didn’t dragons draw a map with valiant?
willow tartan
yea
hot onyx
Did Mano get signed again?
willow tartan
during the hz homestand
no, mano is on break cuz military service
dunno if he'll come back or not and his posts indicates that he doesn't know if he'll be back or not
hot onyx
Exactly
Mf fed so hard that the rest of apac was full after his 5 course meals every match
And yeah I am one of the only people in OW Esports that thinks this way because I’m one of the only people that took time out of my day to review vods of apac mt players
frosty patrol
@noble nexus shut up
willow tartan
i've watched every single OWL game in 2021
noble nexus
<@!176115780029513730> shut up
Who are you again lol?
willow tartan
and i can tell you that Mr. Mano isn't the scapegoat you're trying to make him out to be
hot onyx
Get a hobby please
I bake nerd
noble nexus
I bake nerd
You’re the least interesting person in ED
Officially
You review OWL VODs and bake
noble nexus
Actually yeah my bad
willow tartan
yeah fuck baking
noble nexus
Memeicus literally doesn’t interact with people outside of this channel
hot onyx
You review OWL VODs and bake
I’m afraid you don’t get to taste my homemade extra gooey chocolate cake in that case
willow tartan
no i do
i talk to some of the people I play Overwatch with
whenever we are playing Overwatch
noble nexus
I’m afraid you don’t get to taste my homemade extra gooey chocolate cake in that...
Damn that’s cool, remember when you asked to see my “lizard”? Weirdo
willow tartan
i also shitpost in marbel's server about the Overwatch League and the Shanghai Dragons
noble nexus
Every time I think Memeicus has broken his own record of most depressing thing ever said he proves me wrong
willow tartan
what can i say, i am just created unequally.
hot onyx
Damn that’s cool, remember when you asked to see my “lizard”? Weirdo
Remember when you misinterpreted an innocent question as a sexual innuendo? Weirdo
willow tartan
honestly, I need to talk about OWL to more people
you guys are boring
by boring i mean stupid
and by stupid i mean your opinions are wrong
and by your opinions are wrong i dont agree with them (except essenzhou he's just wrong)
noble nexus
honestly, I need to talk about OWL to more people
Honestly, you need to talk less
willow tartan
i dont talk?
noble nexus
Remember when you misinterpreted an innocent question as a sexual innuendo? Weir...
Yeah yeah sure whatever you say champ
willow tartan
like honestly i rarely ever talk
i dont remember if it was last september or the year before that since time has all melded together into one brainrot of a memory but there was this period of time where i just didn't even speak to anyone for a month and the first time i tried speaking afterwards i just forgot how to
I just lost the muscle memory in my mouth needed to pronounce and enunciate words
willow tartan
and i've been slowly recovering from that but even now i stutter a lot more than i used to
willow tartan
it would be funny if they won
sullen berry
best of the worst this weekend, nyxl > glads more likely
sullen berry
how about you read it over instead of overreacting
hot onyx
honestly, I need to talk about OWL to more people
“So this is the part where Fleta swaps to widowmaker and clutches the map by headshotting Tobi Fits Marve1 and Bdosin which eventually leads to the Shanghai Dragons becoming the 2020 Apac May Melee Champions”
willow tartan
? how am i overreacting im just asking you
are you saying that nyxl is the best worst team on opening week?
sullen berry
you could really rest that head of yours
willow tartan
you know that is very vague
noble nexus
Kenobi is just dense it’s okay
next mesa
Honestly Seoul might've lost on kings row even if they capped
sullen berry
Honestly Seoul might've lost on kings row even if they capped
how far back in the time machine are we rn
willow tartan
Honestly Seoul might've lost on kings row even if they capped
But you could really feel the momentum shift after that point
noble nexus
Levy saw the word Seoul and came to white knight
hot onyx
what is "worst"
Probably Paris vs Shock
willow tartan
no i am not ask whats the worst match
i mean what is worst that defines there is the best of the worst
isnt the best the best of the worst?
Like the amount of sense that sentence he said made 0
hot onyx
I think Kenobi was defining them in a group of teams he ranks in a certain category
For example
willow tartan
NYXL is the best bottom team?
next mesa
Levy saw the word Seoul and came to white knight
What
willow tartan
and he includes Glads in that category?
next mesa
Bro I literally said Seoul would've still lost
next mesa
But you could really feel the momentum shift after that point
That's true
hot onyx
Out of the likes of Boston Florida and London, I would say that Florida is the best of those bottom teams
noble nexus
Bro I literally said Seoul would've still lost
Bro I was literally joking
I didn’t even read what you said
Tbh
willow tartan
so... he is considering glads and nyxl to be in the same tier of "worst"?
i dont think that is what he meant
hot onyx
Glads are on a different tier of NYXL so idk what the heck he’s talking about
noble nexus
It’s crazy that Kenobi said something so utterly stupid and doubled down on it that it takes you two chimps to decipher it
willow tartan
hey austin
sullen berry
^ this tbh