4 fs role stars
#esports-discussion
frosty patrol
In which case
Tank: Hanbin
Fate
Super
Ga9a
Space
DPS: Proper
Pelican
Lip
Kevster
Fleta
MN3
Sparkle
Profit
Main Support: Leejaegon
Vindaim
Chorong
Funnyastro
Flex Support: Shu
Izayaki
Viol2t
Fielder
frosty patrol
how are u already gonna hand out role stars
My way too early crackhead picks
It’s for fun
balmy wolf
no me
cedar oasis
i carried sans
hot onyx
gold eliminations gold damage and the replay of that last match proves otherwise
also I don't have New Horizons you ape
plush grail
ed 6 stack soon
hot onyx
only New Leaf
plush grail
peasant
hot onyx
aka the not shit one
plush grail
does super mario galaxy have horse balls that shrink in the cold??
plush grail
well no ur a owl fan sans
hot onyx
does super mario galaxy have horse balls that shrink in the cold??
no but neither does New Horizons you baboon
plush grail
everything over 20 years should be avoided like the plague
hot onyx
I don't want to avoid my nan
plush grail
Ratio
vagrant jacinth
Role stars already? Was I in a coma for season 5 or something
vagrant jacinth
Wow
vagrant jacinth
So we have ow2 now?
next mesa
Yeah man
balmy wolf
yes
next mesa
One of them throw frisbees
balmy wolf
^
vagrant jacinth
Yooo
hot onyx
6 new heroes
Levy don't give them false hope
hot onyx
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hot onyx
does Mano make a Miro style comeback or is he still shit?
north relic
does Mano make a Miro style comeback or is he still shit?
Mano kills everyone while in the military and owns microsoft
The New York excelsior is going for the 50peat
hot onyx
48peat*
hot onyx
nah he left philly in 2024 didn't he?
next mesa
He won
After joining a superteam with profit and jjonak
In 2024
Jjonak came back from retirement
So many tears
It was an emotional moment
north relic
Libero is now the richest man in the world
hot onyx
Profit and JJoNak aren't super team tier??
frosty patrol
Profit and JJoNak aren't super team tier??
Yes they are
Jjonak no health issues
Profit with his middle finger unleashed
tawdry hamlet
What's sad is, profit jjonak Mano would he regarded as a very good roster even tho profit the only one on that roster who wouldn't flip
Flop
Jjonak and Mano are mid at best 🏃
frosty patrol
Wrong, not jjonak
His best is not mid
He’s just most likely anywhere from mid to above average
Not anywhere near top flex supports
north relic
jjonak is definitely not mid at best
he is currently mid but not at best
i hope i dont get muted for this
devout path
jjonak is a top fs
earnest leaf
i'm gonna lose it if I see one more person say ans fell off on r/cow
It's like they try their hardest to not understand what happened at all
north relic
ans fell off + ratio
earnest leaf
ok at least someone on that sub has part of a brain working
devout path
ok at least someone on that sub has part of a brain working
cheese like sym and torb
lmao
tropic herald
so basically
ans is a hard hitscan player
he will be good if the meta involves hard hitscan
north relic
he will be top 2 in the league if cree/widow/ashe are meta
top 2 what
earnest leaf
a top 2 player
north relic
a top 2 player
who is 1
earnest leaf
ans
north relic
mystary is just levy's alt
balmy wolf
mystary is just levy's alt
no
north relic
thats something levy's alt would say
frosty patrol
he will be top 2 in the league if cree/widow/ashe are meta
You’re just wrong
Buy lip, fits, mn3, kai stock
All better than ans
MN3 in particular is a fucking nutcase ashe
earnest leaf
Ans better
frosty patrol
Ans better
Nah
Kai fits better widow, mn3 lip kai better ashe, lip mn3 better cree
earnest leaf
Simply incorrect
frosty patrol
mn3s team will flop much harder than ans’ so I’ll give ans the edge there for team based reasons
But ans is not the best widow or a top 3 ashe in current day unless he proves it
frosty patrol
Cant recall his widow or ashe but his cree was not amazing in s4 when he came back
earnest leaf
never really had a chance to play widow/ashe in s4 since both were ass 99% of the time
His cree still looked pretty damn solid though when he played it
frosty patrol
His cree still looked pretty damn solid though when he played it
Yes
earnest leaf
iirc they ran ans cree nero torb and dismantled dallas dive
frosty patrol
But not top 2 player in the league solid
Ans is a fucking nutcase in that meta and MAYBE a top 2 hitscan
But def not top 2 player
Void for example
earnest leaf
I can't think of anyone personally to play over ans when widow/ashe/cree are hard meta
frosty patrol
Much better than ans could reasonably be
earnest leaf
there might be 1-2 people a bit better on cree/ashe individually, but taking into consideration all 3 heroes I would take ans
north relic
Kai fits better widow, mn3 lip kai better ashe, lip mn3 better cree
no way you are arguing againist ans widow
earnest leaf
Widow I will stand by that ans is the best at her
frosty patrol
no way you are arguing againist ans widow
I’m not high on ans widow until I see ans widow, it’s been literally 18 months
earnest leaf
Until I see someone best the shit ans was doing on her, I won't move off it
frosty patrol
Ans should be the best widow owl but
I’m not committing yet
Also,
Widow being meta won’t happen
Certainly not all 3 being meta
Ans is not the top or even top 2 on ashe and cree rn
Best realistic meta for ans has him as a number 3-5 hitscan (still fucking insane)
But top 2 player is delusional
north relic
yea i wouldnt argue for ashe or cree
earnest leaf
Top 2 when taking into consideration on all three of those heroes
north relic
but he has the potential to make it top 2 ashe/cass
earnest leaf
Like I said, there might be 1-2 people individually better than him at ashe/cree
frosty patrol
You’re telling me ans is gonna be better than all except 1 of hanbin void lip pelican proper leejaegon shu etc? @earnest leaf
earnest leaf
When I say top2 i meant for those heroes alone
Not the entire league
Not other roles
frosty patrol
Currently glads dps line is painfully underwhelming besides kevster
Widow meta is pepelaugh
Maybe ans will carry on like
4 maps
Patiphan is D tier
earnest leaf
Kevster will be good, ans will do fine on widow/ashe/cree/sombra/hanzo
pati is the biggest worry though
earnest leaf
iirc he used to be a hanzo otp
frosty patrol
Ans sombra and hanzo I’m not excited for
earnest leaf
also
frosty patrol
iirc he used to be a hanzo otp
“used to” when?
earnest leaf
ans soldier is unironically really good
north relic
ans sombra during s3 isnt bad i believe
frosty patrol
ans sombra during s3 isnt bad i believe
Ans could be average-good on sombra
But no way pati and ans do well in a tracer-fdps meta
earnest leaf
ans sombra is decent, gets the job done
north relic
ans rolls the league on sojourn source: trust me
frosty patrol
That will be FUCKING PAINFUL
If that meta comes glads are like
5-6 NA
Carried by supports and tanks and kev
earnest leaf
yea since you want kevster on tracer almost al l the time
frosty patrol
yea since you want kevster on tracer almost al l the time
Pati tracer kev echo sounds awful
Pati plays more genshin than ow after not playing ow for over a year
frosty patrol
shu plays tracer
I’d unironically take funny, skewed, or shu on tracer over pati or ans
north relic
no
earnest leaf
what rank is pati at rn
frosty patrol
Who in the overwatch league is worse than patiphan
earnest leaf
last I checked he was still low gm
frosty patrol
Pati is in the conversation for worst player owl
And he’s the dps supposed to fill the holes in kevster and ans’ game
I swear if pati ends up a top player or smth ED is gonna meme me for 12 years
north relic
what are reign's opening matches
north relic
mayhem nyxl
tropic herald
nyxl will live and die off yaki
north relic
reign nyxl will be very good
cedar oasis
flora top 3
north relic
like half this chat has reign over nyxl and the other dont
earnest leaf
lol
cedar oasis
iris overrated
north relic
can shu even win the dennis award
next mesa
rare W from Flameknight
earnest leaf
dennis award was a random pick tbh
north relic
dennis award was a random pick tbh
isnt it only people from the org
next mesa
except Profit instead of yaki
smurf mvp = seoul dynasty wins the league
thank u for ur support
next mesa
Avast actually said something smart: Seoul dynasty dps duo dragged them dps and screaming while they just papeeshed around all the time
PAPEESH CENTRAL
LMAO
next mesa
mb mb
north relic
there are only 2 seoul matches on the list
north relic
levy is high
north relic
yea
one shows NA with some random apac matches
and the other shows only apac matches
i cant spell matches
nyxl has glads reign first two matches
asdxz
rough but 2-0 is possible
next mesa
its gonna be interesting to see
if nyxl pounds them they are instantly contenders level
north relic
reign nyxl is going to shape a lot of my expectations
next mesa
also surprisingly my list was pretty accurate to plat chat's
north relic
since everyone ranks them relatively close together
next mesa
although i am surprised sbb did not make an appearance at top 15
next mesa
reign nyxl is going to shape a lot of my expectations
yaki vs venom is gonna be cracked
cedar oasis
shock have it the easiest i think
north relic
you think venom is gonna get playtime?
idk
what if tracer just turns out to not be meta
next mesa
Im betting on that tracer will be meta in ow2
considering you probably have your biggest obstacle dva being removed
balmy wolf
Kai fits better widow, mn3 lip kai better ashe, lip mn3 better cree
ans > kai on widow
frosty patrol
Like I said, until proven otherwise I’m assuming ans’ play took a downward trend but he should be the best widow
north relic
i looked at r/cow and saw happy #8 on all time dps list
plush grail
onigod good
sullen berry
True though
north relic
guys when is haksal coming back
sullen berry
Sorry, no idea who you're talking about, do you mean 
Haksal "retired", which means in esports he returns in 12 months
north relic
im currently watching it and i love bren just saying at the end that he had carpe and haksal 15 and 14
hot onyx
Yeah dude
He got a sweet 5k that one time
Totally consistent player that proved to stay on the same level of consistency for all 4 years of his career
north relic
im a consistently below gm for my entire career
ive stayed on the same level of consistency
north relic
for a sec i had hope
frosty patrol
Profit being number 1 I'm fine with if you're an oldass and like longevity for no reason
That is to say
Profit not 1
frosty patrol
Birdring and Bren host the Glads podcast
north relic
one good season
nvm he pounded on team doge
yes but leave is the MVP
but i agree 6 is too high
i would put him on 10,9,8
frosty patrol
Leave should be like 10-15
north relic
around there
north relic
i can agree with leave 10
earnest leaf
if you have leave top 10, imo that would mean you have to put ans there as well
But I can't take one season of greatness and rate them immediatly a top 10 dps of "all time" personally
north relic
leave is special since he is the best dps player that season according to the community
tawdry hamlet
Idk I mean leave was always good Chengdu was always just bad
Leave and Molly imo always looked so close to greatness but just not there
frosty patrol
Leave also had more than one good season given he was the best player in China from like
2017-2019
Besides Guxue
north relic
avast has leave 3
earnest leaf
avast also had yaki 4th
frosty patrol
Guxue is hardstuck number 3 winston in the league
earnest leaf
because avast has the weirdest fucking measurements for rating players sometiems
hot onyx
https://twitter.com/LAGladiators/status/1494071053135482880
Thought this was bait like the fake Titans account that “signed” Rascal
tawdry hamlet
Idk how good guxue is he's had bad supports and a mixed bag of mid tier or washed dps that changes every other game and his tank partner was Bernar lolll
And he hasn't stood out since s2
tawdry hamlet
But he seems to be respected on da monkey
hot onyx
As long as LiGe doesn’t start crying at the thought of being an OWL starter and Architect is permabenched they should be fine
frosty patrol
Guxue is hardstuck number 3 winston but his team held him in jail the last 2 years to make him not number 3
earnest leaf
you could at least tell mag was pretty good at winston still
hot onyx
Mag overrated sadgely
tropic herald
Mag overrated sadgely
No
hot onyx
Budget Fearless
hot onyx
Empathy
frosty patrol
Empathy you've gone insane
earnest leaf
Mag very good winston
hot onyx
What is the matter with your brain
earnest leaf
nothing special outside monke
north relic
rumour
tropic herald
Think about this situation logically for a second
Not easy for people who spend their life here
hot onyx
Minor spelling mistake
north relic
Think about this situation logically for a second
yes
ooga booga fearless strong mag 2 deaths per 10 with 2k hero damage
frosty patrol
Esports Discussion reminds me of the Congo river in 1877
north relic
were you there in 1877
north relic
Think about the teams each player had
yea mag had a shanghai dragons flex support player
hot onyx
Oh god this guy is about to make my “Mano vs Silver3 argument”
tropic herald
Is there someone in the starting lineup on Washington who is comparable to anyone on Dallas
hot onyx
But unironically
north relic
Is there someone in the starting lineup on Washington who is comparable to anyon...
bebe and fielder
tropic herald
Unless you are a fury simp you will say no
north relic
closer and jecse
hot onyx
Unless you are a fury simp you will say no
Pine and Decay
north relic
rapel and bebe
frosty patrol
were you there in 1877
It was when the Europeans realized they could exploit the Africans without shipping them overseas
tropic herald
Ok you guys weren’t going to take the argument ever
There’s no point in even trying to argue
hot onyx
No no no Empathy please
Allow your lack of chromosomes to show
I need to shut off my brain so I can sleep better
tawdry hamlet
Washington had an overrated DPS line and one tank, philly had overrated as fuck dps and one tank, thus, both teams sucked
tropic herald
How are you going to say any of this 😭
tawdry hamlet
north relic
Washington had an overrated DPS line and one tank, philly had overrated as fuck ...
carpe rascal theoretically should have been insane
tawdry hamlet
Rascal Eqo Shockwave theoretically should've been insane, but since in practice they cover like 3 heroes ever they weren't
Lollll
tropic herald
Ok I’m going to pick a team from each region that I think is a dark horse 😼
north relic
boston and charge
tropic herald
Hangzhou n Washington 😼😼
tawdry hamlet
Rascal was inflated by shock success anyway
I think he was good but he was so inflated
And shockwave was hella inflated by being on a turbo shit team
So all he had to do was aim better than Dalton to be a top tier hs
Lmao
north relic
i dont trust justice but they could do it
tropic herald
Rascal Eqo Shockwave theoretically should've been insane, but since in practice ...
I think Shockwave is good but yeah the overall dps line they had was a little interesting least to say
next mesa
Hangzhou good
tropic herald
i dont trust justice but they could do it
- when vigilante plays
tawdry hamlet
I just don't think all together that dps line had any shot, split those players up like one player per team and they'd probably be a fine supporting player like nero, but all on one team and you're hardstuck
I think we saw all the big names on philly dps line we forgot how good ivy Heesu was on its own and that Lowkey ivy Heesu for rascal shockwave is kind of mehhh
north relic
rascal=ivy s3
tawdry hamlet
I mean at the end of s3 shockwave and rascal had huge stonks but so did Heesu ivy 😭
hot onyx
carpe rascal theoretically should have been insane
They were until this happened https://twitter.com/fusion/status/1323438495600316417?s=21
tawdry hamlet
They were until diem retired and Shanghai left the earth and became so far above everyone else it wasn't even close
north relic
They were until this happened https://twitter.com/fusion/status/1323438495600316...
fuck it seominsoo thought it was a good pickup so it is
tropic herald
I just remembered when they were doing the goat dps list and they showed rascal echo footage for him I’m like
Wow
tawdry hamlet
Literally like as soon as diem retired Shanghai got like a million times better somehow
tropic herald
We thought this was top tier echo play?
hot onyx
fuck it seominsoo thought it was a good pickup so it is
Back when he thought Sado was also staying
next mesa
philly would've flopped with another mt
tawdry hamlet
Mano sucked but so did the dps, eqo shockwave were frequently diffed and carpe is small step below the top hitscans so he can't carry and Fastro missed half the year 😭
Eqo and shockwave also both had very meh Sombra
hot onyx
philly would've flopped with another mt
Fuck you suck my dick piece of garbage OGE has a higher peak
tawdry hamlet
Which became a clear issue
next mesa
Mano sucked but so did the dps, eqo shockwave were frequently diffed and carpe i...
thank you!!
tawdry hamlet
It seemed like philly could never decide to commit to full cockwave or full eqo in flex metas
next mesa
tawdry hamlet
So they just switched all the time
tropic herald
Hotba is perfectly average
tawdry hamlet
Hotba zarya was the only one ever in the kill feed on philly somehow omegalul
north relic
Mano sucked but so did the dps, eqo shockwave were frequently diffed and carpe i...
what place do fusion get if you replace alarm with someone like jjonak
tropic herald
He’s like the Rio of off tank
north relic
He’s like the Rio of off tank
rio is def worse imo
hotba is mid rio is below average
tawdry hamlet
JJonak instead of Alarm last year would've made philly below Seoul easily and not just 50/50 depending on how Seoul coaches feel lmao
tropic herald
Idk, I haven’t watched a charge game in a while but when I watched him I always left thinking wow, he didn’t do anything revolutionary or wicked but he’s also not making mistakes
north relic
Idk, I haven’t watched a charge game in a while but when I watched him I always ...
2 deaths 2k dmg per ten
tropic herald
JJonak instead of Alarm last year would've made philly below Seoul easily and no...
Alarm high key carried Philly both years
hot onyx
Mano sucked but so did the dps, eqo shockwave were frequently diffed and carpe i...
Oh shit good Michael take?
mortal abyss
True
north relic
gets pinged whenever alarm comes up
mortal abyss
Alarm astro at their peak together is the greatest support line in ow history and any other opinion is wrong !
tropic herald
No
tawdry hamlet
Moth Violet peak was pretty cool too
tropic herald
I think this year
tawdry hamlet
The moth unkillable mercy and the violet bap getting the 4k 😤
hot onyx
Carried is a strong term when S3 had players all top 3 in their respective role but Alarm was easily the best player on Fusion every year
tropic herald
Glads supp line omega strong this year
noble nexus
good take 👍
tropic herald
Which I guess gets some merit for being 3
north relic
this year
tawdry hamlet
Well yeah they added Fastro to a support line that was top 4 without moth even playing
tropic herald
And fastro is god tier
north relic
glads support line this year is basically the same as last year
mortal abyss
Do glads have the best support line in the league now
tropic herald
Yeah
north relic
moth to fastro is arguably a downgrade
tawdry hamlet
Fastro is literally moth but without a bunch of accolades on mercy
mortal abyss
glads support line this year is basically the same as last year
Yeah but now they’re much better with lucio
hot onyx
Fastro unironically better than Moth
tropic herald
moth to fastro is arguably a downgrade
No
mortal abyss
moth to fastro is arguably a downgrade
Astro > moth for the glads
north relic
Do glads have the best support line in the league now
with bebe in shd is probably better
mortal abyss
O ok
hot onyx
Better lucio and brig
mortal abyss
It came out of nowhere
hot onyx
Moth just has the best mercy lmao
north relic
sans has the best mercy
tropic herald
Coma mercy 🥶
tawdry hamlet
It's a shame charge upgraded a lot but still look mid af
noble nexus
yveltal mercy 🥶
tropic herald
Charge moment
north relic
they dont look mid if it wasnt for rio
noble nexus
Fusion sign Jihun :)
north relic
empathy fake
tropic herald
I can’t spell
noble nexus
Belosrea
north relic
his resume is looking pretty neat
hot onyx
sans has the best mercy
That’s nothing wait until you see my brig, my inspire upkeep time is insane
north relic
That’s nothing wait until you see my brig, my inspire upkeep time is insane
brig isnt a main support hero
noble nexus
no one asked + you're pltlals
hot onyx
Fusion please sign Belorosea
Belosrea resigned to his contenders team so not an option
hot onyx
brig isnt a main support hero
You’re not a main support hero
tropic herald
Belosrea resigned to his contenders team so not an option
frosty patrol
You’re not a main support hero
First time Sans has been the most correct man in the room
hot onyx
Why wouldn’t you take Clestyn and Sado if you wanted to win?
hot onyx
First time Sans has been the most correct man in the room
Thank you thank you, Hotba was top 8
earnest leaf
Astro is only an upgrade on brig over moth
And glads have skewed
So it's a small downgrade that doesn't mean a lot
hot onyx
Astro equal lucio
Plus he improved more than Moth this season
Plus Unter Face and Boss coaching
earnest leaf
Not moth's fault his team sucked at rush
earnest leaf
Moth is incredibly consistent
hot onyx
Plus an absolute fragger when he needs to be
gusty rampart
Moth is really really good
hot onyx
Never said Moth wasn’t good
gusty rampart
His team was just ass at rush because DPEI didn't know how to coach them
hot onyx
Just that I’d prefer Astro over him
earnest leaf
His team was just ass at rush because DPEI didn't know how to coach them
Muze rein wasn't good and kevster mirror hated mei
gusty rampart
Not 100% but
earnest leaf
Also kevster mei was meh
gusty rampart
Muze Rein was ok
tropic herald
Wait a min glads have Smash
gusty rampart
Yea
tropic herald
That dude is wicked
hot onyx
Whom?
earnest leaf
I would have taken 5 reins over muze that year in na alone
tropic herald
Prev coach for O2
gusty rampart
I would have taken 5 reins over muze that year in na alone
Yea no shit
But his Rein wasn't awful
hot onyx
I would have taken 5 reins over muze that year in na alone
Me too, and none of them are Super
tropic herald
Idk MuZe rein was solid but luckily for him rein was not necessary
hot onyx
Took the bait like a chimp Dink
earnest leaf
Rein hard to rate last year tbh
tropic herald
Cope. Seethe. Mald
earnest leaf
He was only ran by a few teams
hot onyx
Top 3 rein yes
gusty rampart
Good ratings
hot onyx
Top 10 overall main tank? Nope
gusty rampart
Seoul fell off sadge
gusty rampart
Top 10 overall main tank? Nope
???
earnest leaf
Close to my rankings I think
gusty rampart
The only tank he isn't good on is Ball
tropic herald
I think certain metas will make me change it
gusty rampart
And most tanks can't play him lmao
tropic herald
Like ball meta? Glads to the top
gusty rampart
Absolutely
worn falcon
SHD keeps top 1 if Bebe doesnt bench Izayaki
earnest leaf
hot onyx
I’m afraid Super is average at best on monke
gusty rampart
He won't lmao
hot onyx
And there is like 5 bad orisa players in the league
gusty rampart
I’m afraid Super is average at best on monke
Better than most APAC shitters I'm afraid
tropic herald
Hangzhou ?
earnest leaf
Mid tier on my list imo can be shuffled in any order
gusty rampart
But he's still one of the best Orisas
hot onyx
He is comparable to Rio on orisa
earnest leaf
Below chengdu I have no clue on those teams
hot onyx
And Rios only good hero is orisa
gusty rampart
Better than most APAC shittas
tropic herald
Wait technically there’s gonna be a lot of cross region play so is it even worth doing split rankings
hot onyx
Cope. Seethe. Mald
Hey retired guy, can I make one?
tropic herald
Brb gonna make merger list
gusty rampart
But there's still inter regional play
How will tournament finals work? Like 2020 or 2021?
north relic
guys whats happening
hot onyx
Better than most APAC shittas
That’s kind of false, Super is not better than Fate Smurf GA9A or Guxue on winston
north relic
How will tournament finals work? Like 2020 or 2021?
a mi
gusty rampart
guys whats happening
Delete this
hot onyx
And the rest of the teams don’t have main tanks
gusty rampart
That’s kind of false, Super is not better than Fate Smurf GA9A or Guxue on winst...
Guxue is only good on Winston and fell off, Ga9a is only good on Ball, Smurf is better yea
hot onyx
Send Zelda link again
north relic
Send Zelda link again
whats a link link
hot onyx
Guxue is only good on Winston and fell off, Ga9a is only good on Ball, Smurf is ...
“GA9A is only good on ball” are exactly the words of someone who doesn’t watch a single apac match unless JJoNak is featured
tropic herald
Idk I got to second to last tier and gave up
gusty rampart
No way Defiant better than NYXL
north relic
Cope. Seethe. Mald
hot onyx
Average NA Andy, insulted apac players without knowing their full capabilities
frosty patrol
Ga9a is a fucking nut
hot onyx
Fuck you, Uprising too high
tropic herald
No way Defiant better than NYXL
I love Yaki but
frosty patrol
Source: I'm an NA andy who wakes up at 3 am to watch APAC
gusty rampart
I just don't think Defiant have that good of a DPS line
tropic herald
What
north relic
Fuck you, Uprising too high
fuck you i dont understand how boston can be worse than titans florida london or paris
tropic herald
Hmm
north relic
I just don't think Defiant have that good of a DPS line
what
gusty rampart
Compared to other teams
north relic
yea
gusty rampart
Like NYXL, Shock, Fuel, Glads and more have superstar DPS lineups
earnest leaf
heesu a little too inconsistent for my liking
gusty rampart
Outlaws too
hot onyx
fuck you i dont understand how boston can be worse than titans florida london or...
Fuck you, Aspire sHockWave Masaa Aztac + Uprising flop arc
north relic
Like NYXL, Shock, Fuel, Glads and more have superstar DPS lineups
i mean you named the top 5 NA teams
earnest leaf
he's decent most of the time with the random peaks of absolute fucking
noble nexus
yeah their dps line is decent but everyone else in NA has an arguably top 3 dps line
tropic herald
Idk, I think Toronto have a really good backline
north relic
they do
tropic herald
Like Atlanta that will carry
gusty rampart
Twilight Ch0rong so hot
noble nexus
unfortunately Toronto are stuck in mid jail
north relic
muze heesu although twilight chorong look really good
they just need to prove themself
gusty rampart
I just can't see them doing better than they've done in previous years
tropic herald
I think Toronto will also be a really good ball team
Like if ball is meta they will go up much higher
north relic
whats althoughs hero pool
hot onyx
whats althoughs hero pool
Typical fdps: tracer echo mei pharah
Proved himself in Contenders
gusty rampart
True
hot onyx
Heesu > Flora
gusty rampart
Nope
hot onyx
Yaki > Alrhough
gusty rampart
Cringe
north relic
flora = heesu
gusty rampart
Yaki is king
north relic
i unironically rank them the same
hot onyx
Why is Flora so overrated?
north relic
flora so good
hot onyx
What has he done?
north relic
What has he done?
your mother
gusty rampart
What has he done?
Helped JJoNak carry his team at times
hot onyx
your mother
noble nexus
so like flora yaki is unlikely to be some insane new peak from both players
gusty rampart
Yaki is like always at his peak
north relic
yaki will awaken
hot onyx
Yaki has the potential to be top 5
gusty rampart
Yaki will awaken and claim his rightful MVP
hot onyx
But wether he unlocks it idk
noble nexus
Yaki is like always at his peak
is that a funny way of saying he's already peaked?
gusty rampart
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
north relic
Yaki has the potential to be top 5
avast so smart he predicted yaki to do so good that he is top 4 all time
gusty rampart
I still need to watch that episode
north relic
yaki will pound
hot onyx
avast so smart he predicted yaki to do so good that he is top 4 all time
I cannot take any sentence that starts with “Avast is smart” seriously
gusty rampart
True
north relic
I cannot take any sentence that starts with “Avast is smart” seriously
good thing its so smart
hot onyx
NYXL fan logic hurts my brain
north relic
you cant get more based than this
hot onyx
I’m so glad I stopped rooting for them when they ditched Libero
north relic
cope
noble nexus
trueeee
tawdry hamlet
frosty shell
devout path
As a content creator 😔
Where
noble nexus
north relic
its just the glads yt
tropic herald
that links to glads yt
split flume
yeah that links to glads yt
devout path
Wow thanks I didn’t realize after the first person who told me
noble nexus
Wow thanks I didn’t realize after the first person who told me
yeah that just links to the glads yt btw
north relic
wait so many people are stepping down from mod
empathy like a few days ago
and 3 more rn
next mesa
The guard from the guard
devout path
No one here
north relic
Hugo abandoned us
north relic
Mod apps soon
Admin reaction lol
devout path
Admin reaction lol
Who asked
north relic
Your’re’ a Seoul fan unfortunately
Yea I have 4 exams this week alone
Probably not anymore for a month though
north relic
I just mega failed my coding contest sadge
What were you supposed to do
Sounds like a Typer racer to me
next mesa
Problem solving
For example the first question was like
They give you a number
And you have to output how many ways that you can add 4s and 5s to that number
north relic
Who cares Seoul look better than ever stay on the drug that is known as owl
next mesa
It gets extremely hard
We lost jjonak anyway
This seasons a wash
Gg see u guys owl s6
north relic
Won’t miss u
north relic
I’m better at coding nerd
I’m a scratch god you don’t stand a chance
next mesa
I’m better at coding nerd
How old are you
devout path
Oh ok
north relic
Lego movie
Isn’t that where the term master builder comes from
I used to love the lego movie when I was younger
devout path
Jjonak ❤️
north relic
He so cute in that jersey
tropic herald
bebe better
next mesa
bebe better
Who?
noble nexus
I like empathy better now that he's one of us
next mesa
Bebe is a very yikes player
vagrant jacinth
Mods retiring like they're owl players
earnest leaf
super/viol2t about to tag team all of next season
north relic
guys jjonak came out of retirement
tropic herald
real
frosty patrol
This channel is just as unmoderated as rural Afghanistan
sly lagoon
:) 👁️
@next mesa keep it civil + that gif hurts my eyes 
but jjonak back from retirement is true?
sly lagoon
Maybe when owl 22 comes ill be here more often, sinxe games gonna be so different too
next mesa
we all know he's getting his hands transplated with aimgod
SEOUL I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING
demon rat you gonna have to drop a couple of hot takes call a few people some insults and we will maybe knight you
vapid basin
sullen berry
guys jjonak came out of retirement
Leaked transfer of former mayhem players to SF Shock, as O2 Blast hold Super and Viol2t for ransom
devout path
Leaked transfer of former mayhem players to SF Shock, as O2 Blast hold Super and...
@balmy wolf on Florida gg
balmy wolf
Beeg
devout path
How cool is bqb
plush grail
balmy wolf
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/94882524378968064/931186352131817592/em...
sexy
hot onyx
who gonna tell him?
plush grail
who gonna tell him?
average fan of daydreaming and delusions
hot onyx
“Honestly despite losing a top 3 support duo, downgrading our off tank and waiting until the last minute to potentially not even sign the only half decent main tank on the market, I think this year is the year we win guys”
tawdry hamlet
Also
Not signing certain t2 talent
Whomegalul
https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Clestyn
plush grail
woah me and clestyn share a bday
tawdry hamlet
Wild
plush grail
my new favorite player is clestyn
noble nexus
Shit birthday tbh
hot onyx
my new favorite player is clestyn
Me too
noble nexus
Tf is Clestyn
hot onyx
Tf is Clestyn
Off tank from T1, best ot in Contenders currently
hot onyx
Philly evolving backwards
Not true, they upgraded their secondary hitscan
plush grail
Philly is shit
mortal abyss
Mn3 > carpe rn imo
hot onyx
True, and Carpe is still like A/A-
north relic
too bad flora outclasses both of them
devout path
Too bad fits exists
balmy wolf
too bad i exist
balmy wolf
no
split flume
proper/kilo/s9mm = lip/fleta > everyone else
noble nexus
I think you could argue proper = fleta
But lip>>>>>
On hard hitscan it’s closer
And s9mm is probably pushing like above average at most
Definitely not the top of his role
hot onyx
Overrated af tbh
Low A*
noble nexus
High B
hot onyx
More flexible???
hot onyx
Carpe zarya diffed Dafran season 2 stage 1
noble nexus
The only thing worse than Dafran’s personality is his gameplay
Please
Relax yourself with that
hot onyx
Nah according to that one guy, Dafran is the greatest player in OWL ever
So your zarya argument is irrelevant
noble nexus
Yeah and that one guy is irrelevant sooooo
hot onyx
Yeah but we’re talking about dps heroes and last time I checked zarya is a support
Decay has the better tracer and sombra but Carpe has the better hard hitscan so it’s more about preference
Plus Carpe torb >
vagrant jacinth
Can't wait for him to pull it out match 1
frosty patrol
Decay has the better tracer and sombra but Carpe has the better hard hitscan so ...
Decay also has the better genji
duh
Relevant hero
hot onyx
Fusion has had ShaDowBurn EQO Ivy and Rascal all on the same team and never won during a genji meta
Can’t wait for it to be different with Zest
trail perch
Because I’m afraid Decay off tracer is overrated
no
ur wrong
also decay on tracer is leaps and bounds ahead of carpe
frosty patrol
Decay is the better tracer reaper sombra hanzo genji
trail perch
also decay can play flex
frosty patrol
Carpe better hs
trail perch
and decay is better on cassidy and widow
hot onyx
Ah yes it is the Decay simp back again with their minutely dose of boot kissing
frosty patrol
and decay is better on cassidy and widow
Carpes cassidy is elite
trail perch
Justice will win owl 2022 people mad underrating them
Opener is going to be nutty
they have new coach
hot onyx
Watch kalios have a better year than fury
I already did last year 
frosty patrol
Justice are cheeks until vigilante shows up
trail perch
krillin is also mad good tho
trail perch
Yeah I’ll agree with you there Sc9r1ett
kill urself
frosty patrol
krillin is also mad good tho
Krillin is mid
trail perch
also they have tydolla now
frosty patrol
To above average
trail perch
Krillin is mid
bro u dont watch contenders
hot onyx
kill urself
Calm down, Viol2t
trail perch
You said that FiNN was average...
frosty patrol
Vigilante is FUCKING INSANE and Krillin is good
frosty patrol
You said that FiNN was average...
When?
north relic
Don’t listen to essenzhou they had justice winning gf last year
trail perch
this convo
hot onyx
Idk if that counts
trail perch
this lmao
frosty patrol
That’s not saying he’s average
Unless you’re telling me chorong and vigilante are mid
trail perch
bro you dont watch contenders
stop pretending like you do
you just repoeat other ppls bad takes
I at least have my own shit takes
from my own distorted worldview from watching contenders
frosty patrol
bro you dont watch contenders
Flex support is stacked in owl to the point that krillin is mid
trail perch
right now who played on t1 last year
hot onyx
from my own distorted worldview from watching contenders
“Opener is gonna pound”
frosty patrol
“Opener is gonna pound”
Opener is uhhhhh
trail perch
thats what i thought
hot onyx
you have 3 seconds to respond
MN3 Zest Clestyn Belosrea Krillin Unique
trail perch
Opener is uhhhhh
what team is he from??
Right now
Thats what I thought
clown shit
frosty patrol
Im not excited for opener (hardcore justice fan)
hot onyx
what team is he from??
A crap one
trail perch
MN3 Zest Clestyn Belosrea Krillin Unique
yeah i wasnt asking you
trail perch
sans ik that ur a no life like me
trail perch
Im not excited for opener (hardcore justice fan)
bro ur a fake ass fan cause ur barely a ow fan
hot onyx
Idk I just kept up with the top 4 KR teams and top 2 CN teams
frosty patrol
yes
trail perch
without knowing any of the other roster
frosty patrol
I can name many better flex supports than krillin
hot onyx
Oh dear
trail perch
I can name many better flex supports than krillin
right now do it
frosty patrol
Viol2t finn majed shu ultraviolet fielder twilight iris vigilante izayaki mmonk
trail perch
MAJED????
frosty patrol
Majed most debatable
trail perch
UV????
hot onyx
MAJED?
frosty patrol
But I smoke majed grass
trail perch
IRIS???
hot onyx
Yes Iris
hot onyx
If Reign coaching isn’t garbage then UV is equal to Krillin
frosty patrol
I thought you said I didn’t have my own bad takes :^)
trail perch
You dont
hot onyx
Possibly better best case scenario
frosty patrol
I’m the biggest ultraviolet enjoyer here
hot onyx
Honestly I feel for Justice fans
I thought it was bad having a mid NA Contenders main support
trail perch
Honestly I feel for Justice fans
bro i grasp at straws at this point
balmy wolf
uv and majed will not be good without a coach
frosty patrol
Ojee Ultraviolet high A tier support line
hot onyx
But a bottom KR contenders and mid AU contenders main support must hurt
trail perch
I dont think you understand how bad NA is at ow
NA players are in their own ecosystem
A solid 10 massive steps bellow owl
NA players arent good
frosty patrol
Ojee and ultraviolet are like 2/3 exceptions to the NA rule
frosty patrol
NA players arent good
Aspire
hot onyx
I dont think you understand how bad NA is at ow
Considering a bunch of mid tier KR Contenders players formed on Uprising Academy and placed 2nd in almost every tournament, I do
frosty patrol
NA contenders > AU contenders @opener fan
trail perch
and everyone hyped him up just cause he had one good game
and toronto was ass without him
frosty patrol
Top NA main support >>>>>> mid-high AU main support
fallen turret
Toronto only won when aspire was in
frosty patrol
Toronto only won when aspire was in
Heesu na1st fucking pounded at times
trail perch
but nice try
hot onyx
Na1st???
trail perch
you'll get it next time!
hot onyx
Nah
Heesu was pretty good but not Na1st
Defiant had 3 good players and Na1st was not one of them lmao
balmy wolf
no
balmy wolf
yes
frosty patrol
Hear me out
Kalios top 10 offtank
Anyone else eat the popeyes family meal by themselves
hot onyx
Kalios top 10 offtank
Last season, true. This season he’ll need to prove himself a little more
Wait no
Who tf are the new off tanks this year