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I wouldn’t go as far as to call SparkR Shax or Teru bad
lsd
Or Onigod and Naga
they're good
Mirror is more of a specialist than actual dps
We didn’t really see Ta1yo play
because he actually had shown that he is really good
In the past
So we have 9 so far
What did nvm play
Main tank was it?
Leave sucks
Whoru probably sucks
Mano had 93 maps to prove that he was decent, and failed to prove the reasoning behind him replacing Sado
Ta1yo had 1 map to prove that he was decent and didn’t get to play any of his strongest heroes
While nothing explicit has been said about what was going on in Shock
Super got asked about the season recently and he said “maybe when I retire I will talk about this season”
sans gets 0 bitches?
ian you actively drive people away from you
what
14 actually
FOR WHAT
OWL news
SOURCe?
SOURCE
plat chat
guys i'm beginning to think this is not just a regular tuesday, not sure why though...
all these owl teams are going ibsane
hey guys
no
I think something special might happen
🦉
idk why tho
nah it's just a normal tuesday
taco tuesday
Which teams posted something
What is happening
wow, it would be crazy if something huge was about to happen. crazy.
fuck all the smm's
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what
hearing that intro song is epic
May 5th??
rip may melee
Bruh!
Sheesh
Top 12 teams global
One tourney
That upload seemed to last an eternity! 😅 But it seems to be running smoothly now! 😎🖤❤️
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OW2 in May pog
2029?
So the east is the not NA teams yes?
Yeah
Holy fucking fuck this is such amazing news that the season is starting 2 weeks later than it’s inital date
i think u were gonna piss ur pants over something in this announcement no matter what
How is Matt's camera centred in the community update video but not in the plat chat episodes
He'd have to like... purposefully fuck it up
I am pissing my pants but not in a positive fashion
sadly pissing your pants
its not centered
Yeah but at least he isn't in the corner of the frame
he finally got a taller chair
sans
Wait I'm dumb so there's 3 tournaments and countdown cup gets turned into playins?
if paris has a homestand can we hold hands?
🤮
its like vct lcq
If covid doesn’t exist then sure
Someone tldr me
tldr you
But if it does we can’t because my nan can’t have the vaccine due to medication
Will a knockoff clash be enough?
We will finally be able to see east and west teams clash in a lan environment
so excited
this owl season feels like it was inspired by vct
probably
And I do not want to put my vulnerable nan at risk for the sake of kicking your scrawny ass
Nerd
im safe
owl in may 
“Breath Of The Wild will release in 2015”
So true
suraj go back to ow chat
star wars > owl
We participate everywhere
Except lore channel
Idk about workshop and lore lol . If i had that knowledge then i would've talked about lore
Lol
Their format is pretty good
I mean generally you can count the monthly tournaments as master 1 master 2 etc
Shanghai vs Fusion first match? PAIN.
a stomp
HAHA
Proof or it didn’t happen
Opening day match is return of NYXL to NA and championship roster Shanghai first game to see how rusty they are as they fumble early on like they did in s2,3 and 4
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damn Sans your two favourite teams are first day :)
As long as we don't play Chengdu early on we're golden.
is cuyo muted?
I hope so
no
Nice 24 matches
Live events are bacc
Barely any chance for one in the UK but it'll be hype seeing crowds on stream
let’s go I can shit on jack day 1
What happened to cuyo though
cope
L
tbf Glads are probably gonna peak like 3/4 of the way into the season again anyways
Fusion shd is tragic though
yeah shd gonna get rolled
Lmao shock gets the eu teams first week
Where’s the schedule
The midseason and postseason tournaments will both feature a hefty prize pool of at least US $1 million.
Big money
Microsoft stonks
actual pain
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god gamer
24 matches but if Shanghai and Dallas both dipped out in countdown cup, wouldn't more matches mean more sandbagging matches?
Also leave 6th
For all time
?
Screams recency bias
But then they put birdring above striker
And profit #1 lmao
Like if 16 game seasons are already too much for some teams I wonder if there's just gonna be a nosedive in the later end of the season
Nah this dps list from plat chat is ass
Those teams only chilled because they were guranteed playoffs so early
It would only happen again if they qualify eaely again
I mean there's one less tournament so there's less opportunity for league tokens
I reckon that will only happen if a team goes back to back in stages which is historically unlikely
especially when the second tournament is gonna be global
Well actually
are hero bans a thing?
If they aren't then it's likely that the winner of a regional is going to win the midseason tournament if they're just the clear cut best team.
But yea this is the worst plat chat ranking by far
where did u want striker
Should have split hitscan and fdps
true
Striker probabaly around 3rd-4th
Oh yeah by the way, week before opening day we all make our predictions 😎
Mark your calendars
shock 3-1 spitfire
shock gonna go 2-0 no doubt in my mind
are the pickems things still going to be a thing next season?
no libero?
in what fucking dimension is Yaki above birdring lip and striker
why are hitscan and and fdps not seperate
fuck
Discord help
It constantly says connecting
Also avast is on shit I’m a yaki simp but no universe puts him fourth
rascal > dohaa
and wtf
carpe and fits not top 10
we put ga9a #10 but leave 3
Fits?
man deserves top 10
We get paris mayhem early
You are getting corrupted by levy
Where have I seen this before
Toilet bowl rematch also
2020, CDH second match of the season, get swept.
2021, CDH second match of the season, get swept.
Also battle of Texas
Outlaws fuel should be very good games
Bro you are the shanghai dragons
The only role you lose on is mvp vs mvp
FUSION WOOO
god I am so excited for OVERWATCH
2022 BAYBE
aah how innocent
Not really
Mayhem are gonna get slammed
nah nah
watch
someone + hydron gonna be a gamer duo
so did any of the plat chat members mention DIEM at all?
lol
lol
patiphan gotta wash out the rust
Glads have a history losing to Boston right
yeah
If Shanghai sweeps chengdu opening week they're winning the season
it's the one obstacle
trust me
they can beat reign
Maybe
yaki will run laps around venom and kellan + gnj duo gonna be good
ny wins ez am I biased? maybe
shit
Pelican kinda carried them
we lost a possible reign stan
glads is gonna be a tough matchup idk bro
UV maybe
read the username dude
I like shu more
yeah I don't think ny can beat them
Krystal enjoyer
😡
Jjonak was the main thing making me a Seoul fan
I’m a nomad now
I have no home
:(
You guys are high nyxl wins this
shock
2-0 opening week
No
ok
I would never support Viol2t
against glads too ???
why not
I like shu
Yes
ok
Toxic af
support the defiant then
hehe
Not toxic either
UV trolled in officials
I’m shu fan
do spark then or justice
every year
fuck the glads

I forgot spark roster
pick a different team idiot
Justice is idk
Become a Chengdu fan
guxue shy lige alphayi superrich irony
I don’t remember their fs either
justice fs is lowkey gonna be gamer
addi dont you have a spark rein skin?
I have every spark skin
.
Defiant are upper mid
how much OW did you watch
every?
jesus christ
Trans rights skins
Hangzhou spark skins*
Trans rights
NA power rankings from my schizo perspective:
🏳️⚧️

Same thing

anime weeb team
then support the spark
Trans team
what do you think is gonna be the biggest upset on opening week
Their backline is too forgettable
justice vs defiant will be good
you're just ignorant
oooh
How can you choose an upset if you don’t even know how good most teams r
maybe defiant beating outlaws
you dont
- Dallas
- Shock
- Glads
- Outlaws
- Reign
- Uprising
- NYXL
- Defiant
- Justice
- Mayhem
- Eternal
- Titans
- Spitfire
if you knew then it wouldn't be an upset now would it
Titans is better than Florida
No
I wanna rate NYXL above Boston Uprising honestly
buy FiNN stock
Boston didn't really change much from 2021
or else
and it wasnt that inspiring
I rate Boston low
I’m assuming kellan solo tank
If gargoyle yes
Yaki carries
yes
Normal yaki things
ignoring the existence of striker
Oh wait
Striker vs yaki wait that’s tough
nyxl glads
proper isnt on boston
I rate yaki higher cuz striker hasn’t played in a bit
too bad super ints
BASED
Glads could honestly flop and be 6 or 7
!@#$ you
yaki is definitely more flexible than striker
arent they different roles though
but a tracer v tracer duel is gonna be fire
Just like how I didn’t rate ans high until he proves it again
yaki fdps striker hs
yeah but by nature of fdps being a more expansive role he can play more heroes
also
striker has mostly played tracer in his career
yo bren put diem
ans at 4
Fleta so low wtf
wait
ANS at 4
why the fuck would you put ANS at 4
bren was on some shit
compared to hasksal above rascal
carpe at 15 and ans at 4
fuck nvn
No way ans > striker fleta
why carpe 15
bren is the biggest ans simp ive ever witnessed
greatest of all time, ans, played one season, retired to go to valorant, didn't play a single official in valorant, came back to overwatch late into s4, played average but you could say cause meta wasnt in his favor but even then that just means that ans isnt flexible enough
4th of all time
Ans being 4 is definitely avast and bren’s fault
Or carpe
Maybe mrx
this is brens individual list
bren just loves himself hitscans
ANS 4?
Well ans is the best sniper ever
that's just untrue
Diem simps
widowmaker is the best sniper
Cringe
Cringe but you refuse to see the facts
carpe below haksal and libero is a crime
Ans is better
Not only did Diem play up to the same level as ANS, he also can actually play other heroes outside of hitscan
Diem is just goated
fits is better
corrupted by levy
Not even close Mayhem gonna die
no
I didn’t say ans was better than diem I said ans was a better sniper
closer than fusion dragons at least
and that's not true either
nyxl easily wins
It is true
yes glads in the bin
Yeah because Dragons > Reign but Fusion > Mayhem dude
No prime ans is better
gwangboong rolled him
ez clap
True
Also L because Glads are going to roll NYXL
no but he beat pine (greatest widowmaker of all time) so he's obviously better than ans
unfortunately wrong
Pine (most inconsistent widow of all time)
linkzr
(inconsitently greatest)
Diem's widow playstyle > Ans's widow playstyle
there should be another widow like pine that just grapples in and kills 3
skill level we can go back and forth until OWL starts in 2029 before reaching a conclusion on who's mechanically better
consistently
Wait till pine gets resigned
Then doesn’t play
Again
whats the chance widow is meta
0%
I think Overwatch as a game has evolved to the point where heroes like Widowmaker, unless incredibly buffed to the point of stupidity, are unable to thrive anymore.
50%
We have devolved into ow2
(or if the meta suddenly becomes double shield which you know, no two tanks)
widow brig meta
but who knows
widow dives in and brig protects her
ow start date is delayed
so that means
more time for diem to get signed
because... he is getting signed right?
Or if a widow otp comes around that doesn’t miss
was he lft
yes
many teams that Diem could still go to
instant lock for most teams as a widow specialist
and more importantly, means he gets to play in the All-Stars Widowmaker 1v1 tournament where he will ascend to the throne as the rightful back-to-back-to-back champion
Diem chinese or korean?
Korean
didnt you say that widow wont be meta
yes,
but.
in the 0% chance that it will be meta
Diem is your man
and besides
what about the new heroes that will be added?
sojourn sounds like a diem hero
The two things you need in order to get good performance on a new hero is adaptability and raw fucking mechanics
Unfortunately right if NYXL keep the 5 man roster
and diem has some raw dog mechanics alright
you literally cant have a 5 man roster
when opening day starts
^^^
Oh fuck yeah
they havent announced yet but they already have signed another player
average glads fan
plat chat's dps lists were all so fucking strange
bren had fucking ans at 4
most of the top 5s were reasonable besides a couple picks
Nah I’m a below average Glads fan and above average Fusion fan
Avast had Yaki at 4 didn't he?
But once you got out of top 5 they took a fat hit of some shit
but like i'm sorry
leave/haksal shouldn't be on an "all time" list
for top 10
He's had one insane season and that's about it
fucked by age but still
reinforce isnt bad other than haksal
profit #1 was unanimous?
avast had fleta
Again, should have split hitscan and fdps
2018 bias moment
mrx had fleta
i mean it cant be anyone other than those two
yaki
fuck off
libero so low
honestly that surprised me
he was an unironic doom/genji two trick in s3
he played like 2 weeks on genji in s3 and one good year in s4 (not even rolestar performance by the way, robbed)
pretty good in s4
but not enough to warrant top 10 of all time
this dps list by far is the worst from them
Split dps into two categories and the list becomes infinitely better
yeah honestly the way they should've done it is just include players who play both hitscan/fdps in both lists
and rate them purely on their performances on either hitscan or fdps
that's the why I wanted them to do it too
and then make a third separate greatest of all time list for tracer 
perfectly fixed
striker, striker, effect
no in reality youd just take into account tracer performance in both lists
when is the ED aggregate top 10 greatest of all time coming out btw?
are they counting contenders?
wheres my man esca
The replay viewer for Overwatch league is not working for me for some reason. Anyone else?
- fleta 2. profit 3. striker 4. birdring 5. lip 6. carpe 7. rascal 8. haksal 9. leave 10. sparkle
Leave was the MVP, why isn't he higher?
only this season he did anything
Libero deserves top 10
Kevster over SBB 
I'll put stitch under soon tbh
This list isn't even fair as putting hitscans and fdps
how do you put yaki over libero
avast mega boosted yaki
#4
almost all of yaki's points
nani?
I'm watching rn
he did something before the mvp its just this year he was basically set free
rascal actually won shit
Yes carpe has been pretty good his whole career
Rascal peaked way higher and got way more trophies
and much flexible than Haksal
Haksal on that list just makes me mald
^
Haksal got ROTY on Vanc
idk what you're on about
on NYXL he was benched
but that team was a tragedy in general
yes, one ROTY over the achivs from Rascal?
they gotta give some hopium to them after no content
microsoft stonks
as a player rascal's peak is nowhere near carpe
rascal's advantage is flexibility on the shock so more wins
ur smoking
rascal is more of a smart player than a mechanically gifted one
yes
Remember when rascal was mia
then came in and fucked
and helped shock win countdown cup on genji
or when he gapped literally everyone on echo mei for an entire season
and fucked pretty hard on brig in goats
rascal just played his role well
Carpe I can see the argument for being more consistent
But Rascal absolutely had higher highs than carpe
nope
actually smoking crack
if you think INDIVIDUALLY rascal has higher highs
countdown cup genji
No way, you have to be trolling me rn
carpe's s1 and s3 are all higher peaks than rascal
no shot you're dying on this hill
Carpe shit on low tier teams for the first month of s3 then got benched by heesu
he did not get benched by heesu
though
it was carpe ivy for the huge majority of the season
and you can argue rascal got "benched" by ans/striker as well like what are you smoking
or "benched" by birdring
what is this argument
Rascal got benched because his entire role wasn't meta
s3 was hitscan/tracer for majority of it
no shit he isn't gonna play over ans striker
Carpe got benched by someone who plays the same role
like there's no shot you think rascal's peak is higher than carpe
you bring COUNTDOWNCUP GENJI
LMAO
into the argument
He absolutely peaked higher than carpe
where he was just a good genji
he fit the shock system
individually his peak isn't super high
Ah the "shock system" argument
Deny any individual strength of the players and attribute it to them just being a good team
you're smoking
nope
fleta is on dragons
his peak is much higher than rascal's
you can literally just see it
tbf you're the same guy that thinks jjonak is a top tier FS lmao
when someone hasn't won anything on a team in 4 years
and he's one of the biggest mainstays of that team
gotta start to wonder
lol okay
im not a philly fan
but there is no shot
you downplay carpe's peaks and achievements because of carpe as an individual
yes and crong was an mvp candidate
shu was a top 3 mvp candidate
I'm just baffled he thinks Carpe has peaked higher than Rascal
Despite not winning anything in 4 years
you're actually fucking delusional
Nah you're just not real
if you think team success = individual peak as a player
Let me break this down for you
fearless peaked higher than fate
fate won finals
but that's about it
no he wasnt
doesn't mean he had a higher peak
im not even arguing who is the better player
just PEAK wise
Yea and I don't think Carpe has ever peaked higher than Rascal
fearless winston peaked higher than peak fate ball
simple as that
Again, never said they were equal
Then you clearly cannot understand anything I say
"rascal actually won"
and you show me his liquipedia profile
lmao
if that's not your argument
Yea you're 100% trolling
At least I can rate players decently
who cares nyxl beats glads opening match
Toronto wipe Justice and Houston
defiant vs houston will be good
it will probably be the game that determines if defiant will be good this season or mid
ofc they can do a glads and sandbag 3/4 of the season
toronto could beat justice but not houston
not right away at least imo
my main concern with houston is tank really
Nah Toronto beat Houston, besides how can you defend houston without a MS MT💀
I don't think MS is going to be that good
At least lucio/mercy
and yea no MT is questionable atm
that's something we'll have to wait and see on
are there going to be new heroes other than sojourn on ow2l release
if a new support comes out flex supports are probably going to be forced to pick it up
Atm new heroes aren't a gurantee
although I would assume sojourn would come with owl
she looked pretty close to done last we saw her
she would be a hitscan or proj
you are 3 hours late man
link length diff
boston v glads should be a good game
titans boston will be a very close one imo
No, 3-0 to Titans
Striker retires immediately after being tracer diffed by Aspire
And Uprising are left with the lacklustre Victoria-Valentine dps duo that’ll put them in 20th
Now if only there was an Uprising fan that existed more than Ian’s gf
looked like hitscan
Bold of you to assume we get a new hero
yo
the shock have to win vs spitfire
if they dont i will leave this and r/owl server
if shock lose to spitfire mystary leaves
imma tryout for spitfire so they can win
does this suggest there are going to be multiple of these?
@overwatchleague @TorontoDefiant I can’t imagine us having any more news this week.
thats kinda sus
So… anybody know anything about @washjustice? We’re playing them on May 7th and need to do some scouting beforehand. Did they end up keeping that guy that was on Dallas? He any good?
imagine decay leaves
Could be a Decay retirement
I don’t see him joining Defiant when they already have Heesu
Shut the fuck up
You can silence the skeleton but you can’t silence the truth
Do I need to dm u proof
A photo of you and your sister holding hands? Sure

Go kiss jack or something
Give Carpe one more year after this year with MN3 and the bozos and if he doesn’t perform well then I’ll admit he’s washed
Ew no, bri ish cooties
he always gonna be the 2nd place MVP
Wasn’t even nominated for MVP last year or 2019 😎
The only good thing to come out of the UK are gorillaz and Kanye west
Kanye is a yank you wank
yes
can u believe flameknight said carpe had lower peak than rascal
rascal peaked in contenders with birdring
Wait fuck I'm mixing up Dua lipa and Kanye west
and a few weeks on echo
Dua lipa is British I'm pretty sure
Ah yes because resemblance is uncanny
Similar voices dumbass
Wrong alt account Ian
No
Have you ever seen me and sans in the same room
We are the same person
#esports-discussion is just me talking to myself on 10 different alt accounts
you know whats high
you rn on that smoke
???????????????
take your pills please
kappa
Thanks for reminding me personality #6
shit I found rascal's peak
Rascal never had a super high peak because he flexes so much
Can't be top tier on every hero
Remember when rascal rode the bench during a fucking genji meta
thanks for being reasonable
yea then came in the next stage and fucked hard on genji anyways
oh no here comes the team success = individual peak argument
Yeah and then he retired as a player
Dude Carpe at most is good on Widow/McCree/Ashe. Mid on Tracer. Rascal has peaked on the heroes he played.
consistently
he did not "fuck hard" on genji
Oh no here come's levy's inability to look at rascal's contributions to shock's achievements
what is this argument
carpe's peak is on the heroes he played while rascal's peak is on the heroes he played
where did carpe peak higher than rascal
It's not like he had a #1 tank duo and support line to make his play look better
never overlooked
ok cool
Levy
where has carpe peaked so high
Could u beat up rascal in a 1v1 fist fight?
I want a definitive answer
honestly probably
martial arts gang
id get beat up by like
benbest tho
foh sho
So he played well when his competition was taimou and xqc,
Season 3 I do agree he played pretty well
But never really showed a point where he was super high up
rascal was in the league too tho?
Nah benbest is like all looks, no strength
Someone like poko would bury us all tho
yea and heesu benched carpe on his own role
alarm was jacked
Poko and alarm were gym buddies
it was a questionable decision
because carpe was fucking all year
heesu did not play great
WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT RASCAL WHEN WE HAVE NAGA IN THE LEAGUE
Heesu played pretty damn well
Maybe he might go to Defiant??? At the beginning of the off season Washington was looking to sell him
u cant put that on carpe, coaches that were still trying to run dive in that meta 2 weeks into scrims
Heesu/Ivy was the duo
WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT NAGA WHEN WE HAVE YAKI IN THE LEAGUE
Carpe was benched.
not to mention carpe played in the playoffs as well
HAHAHAAH YAKI WASHED AS FUCK
WRONG+L+RATIO+NAGA EU
blocked
alright i gotta go @hot onyx do your job philly shitter and defend carpe ill be a bit busy
im your favorite personality admit it
Ur a Florida fan
If that’s true then how come I kicked your ass in a OW, Connect 4, Checkers and Rock Paper Scissors 1v1?
Never happened
what
Also I win in the overwatxh 1v1
^^^
i never was a florida fan
U are now
???
You won twice I won twice and my wins were more convincing
Lost to a plat main support + ratio
Come on Ian I don’t want to fuck you up so badly that your gf can’t visit you in hospital due to her lack of existence
My gf > your nan
based
Kek I missed Seoul losing jjonak
2768 Results
Its edited but we can ignore that
Rent free
Paris will be top 5
Seoul lost a B tier and replaced him with a B- while Fusion lost an S tier and replaced him with a C
