esports-discussion

[next mesa]

yep yep def libero too hmm

profit > rascal easily

wouldnt put ivy

1 good season

[lost thicket]

best NA only team

like Team NA, only western players n shit

[worn falcon]

He was solid flex tho

[next mesa]

NA

does it include eu @lost thicket

[lost thicket]

yeah

[next mesa]

alr

[worn falcon]

I was considering Yaki tho

[lost thicket]

NA like just general all western

[next mesa]

Super Space Kevster Kai UV Ojee

[earnest leaf]

I'm gonna use the levy argument

Gotta watch the vods

danteh mechanics built different

[next mesa]

i think yaki better than ivy

[lost thicket]

I think FS is a bit eh since still unproven in OWL but solid I guess

[next mesa]

peak wise and longevity

[worn falcon]

The thing with Ivy is he played like very well and solid as flex dps, very up here

[next mesa]

tracer mechanics definitely good

[worn falcon]

Yaki was a bit...harsh peak

Many ups and downs

[next mesa]

however there are just still like 12 tracers that i'd take over

[lost thicket]

super/SPACE would make me

[next mesa]

i was debating between them and kaan

you can put crimzo too

[lost thicket]

n his Echo is solid

[next mesa]

My problem with danteh is this season he is quite literally useless

everything that he specialises on

pelican is just better

[worn falcon]

Maybe swap kevster with sparkle

[lost thicket]

Crimzo is good yeah

[earnest leaf]

He'll probably be used for mainly sombra/tracer

[worn falcon]

The thing is haven't seeing much of kevster

He solid tracer

[next mesa]

in terms of flex dps yea

[worn falcon]

Echo a tier low than his tracer

[next mesa]

dude its sad owwc wont be a thing anymore

so sad

team china actually legit

[earnest leaf]

Team usa would simply only win

[worn falcon]

Danteh Echo was solid but dunno what happened lately

[lost thicket]

do double FDPS and Danteh/Pelican is so fucking strong, Peli-Cho and Dan-cer (idk man, Danteh Tracer) would fuck

[next mesa]

they would get third

[earnest leaf]

team usa slept on

[worn falcon]

China climbing

[next mesa]

no i mean

[worn falcon]

Korea have tons of god players

[next mesa]

china simply better

[worn falcon]

USA sleeping

[earnest leaf]

Simply wrong

[next mesa]

shy leave easily diffs every hydron/nero/danteh lineup

[lost thicket]

OWWC would be a toss up between USA/CHINA/SOUTH KOREA

probably

[next mesa]

Haoyoqian diffs ojee

[earnest leaf]

who

[next mesa]

you mean south korea

and south korea

superich

mmonk diffs any fs

gaga and lige can easily match super space

the dps gap is too big

[earnest leaf]

All team china really has going for them is leave

I'm gonna be honest

[lost thicket]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[next mesa]

and shy

casually forgetting shy

[worn falcon]

Mmonk is pretty solid

[next mesa]

and what does usa has going for them

[earnest leaf]

The rest of their players aren't a definitive better player over their team usa counter-parts

[next mesa]

lmao fucking danteh

gg

they are

[lost thicket]

yeah Mmonk is good but diffs all FS? Lmao.

[next mesa]

just simply true

[next mesa]

that NA has to offer

[worn falcon]

What could be team usa?

[earnest leaf]

super/space have already proved their pretty damn good

[next mesa]

so has gaga lige

[balmy wolf]

shy mmonk leave ga9a

[earnest leaf]

Ojee/uv has played together for a while so they got that going

Aspire big dick

[lost thicket]

I'd take super/SPACE more then gaga lige

[earnest leaf]

and Fdps would be nero imo

[next mesa]

so has faraway and superich

[lost thicket]

though they'd be forced to run rush probably

which still they'd be solid

[next mesa]

what are these arguments bro

[worn falcon]

Super/space/s9mm/Danteh/Aspire/Ojee/UV?

[earnest leaf]

Gaga also is a glorified ball otp

[next mesa]

nope

wrong

ball just happens to be his best hero

[earnest leaf]

really good ball, good winston, gets gapped by super on orisa/rein

[next mesa]

lol and super gets gapped by him on ball and winston

like i said they match

[lost thicket]

eh Nero would be better than Aspire

Reaper n all

[next mesa]

not to mention the gap between orisa is smaller

ga9a's orisa is great

humongous insurmountable ball gap though

[lost thicket]

USA would all be rush pretty much

[next mesa]

not to mention the dps gap

[earnest leaf]

You're forgetting the one piece

[next mesa]

is way too large

[earnest leaf]

Junkbuck diff

[next mesa]

nohill diff

• ratio

[worn falcon]

Junbuck > Tobi

Ez

[earnest leaf]

Nero kept up with 99% of the people he played vs

Same for aspire

[next mesa]

bro

[earnest leaf]

But let's be honest here

[next mesa]

if u say

[earnest leaf]

this is a shit argument both ways

[next mesa]

nero aspire

can keep up with shy leave

[earnest leaf]

Nero already did

?

[lost thicket]

S9mm Echo, Danteh Tracer, Nero Reaper/Hanzo, super Rein/Orisa, SPACE D.VA/Sigma and Ojee Lucio /UV Bap

[next mesa]

didnt

[lost thicket]

so 2x Shield or Rush lock

[earnest leaf]

But also we would have to take into account what's meta if another owwc were to happen

[worn falcon]

Nero has been solid lately, early shock was a mess

[lost thicket]

and I'd take USA strong ass rush tbh

[earnest leaf]

What happens if tracer isn't meta and leave can't deadlift china

What happens if rush is hard meta, or if it's just pure dive

[lost thicket]

even still T4 and beat CDH

[worn falcon]

The same meta as season 4 tbh

[lost thicket]

like shock was a mess

[worn falcon]

We haven't got a humongous balance patch as before

So would be the same meta as Grand finals

[next mesa]

leave can deadlift on any character

[lost thicket]

but still a great team, South Korea has basically all of SHD so they'd be closest to winning probably

[earnest leaf]

If we took balance as is, it would be a stylistic match up of usa rush/poke vs china dive

[next mesa]

u can make the same argument what if ball is hard meta

[lost thicket]

Echo/Tracer sure

[earnest leaf]

Which gets into a whole other world of obscurity we can't argue properly

[next mesa]

current balance patch korea stomps

[worn falcon]

Tracer/Echo/Sombra
Ball, Orisa/Winston
Dva/Sigma
Bap/Ana/Brig/Zen

[next mesa]

because ball is already proven to be the best comp

[lost thicket]

idk about any other FDPS but all I'll say is Leave S3/S4 is almost the same, everyone else got better

on his team*

[worn falcon]

Leave looks better because Chengdu did so many glaring mistakes

That's my issue with Chengdu

[earnest leaf]

my issue with chengdu is jinmu bad

please replace

[worn falcon]

They were stubborn with some meta

Then one fucker was watching anime

[lost thicket]

based

[worn falcon]

Fucking lateyoung

[next mesa]

apr1ta is coming 🙏 🙏

[worn falcon]

This season got so many tendies players tho

And washed ones

Since veterans yeeted

And carpe still playing with a 10 years contract

[gusty rampart]

It was Yveltal

[gusty rampart]

Jinmu isn't always the problem

[earnest leaf]

He's a pharah/sombra two trick

and his sombra isn't even that special either

[gusty rampart]

He's a Pharah one trick

But he's really good at that one hero

There are bigger issues in Chengdu than him imo

[earnest leaf]

He's the easiest person to fix

[lost thicket]

Nah, get like, Chinese nero, more flexible but still good at Phara lma o

[wide minnow]

I like the way doha uses his blade when he plays genji

[next mesa]

yall can u guys believe it

i played 6 qp games today 😳 first time overwatch in one month

[sullen berry]

The last time I played 6 quick play matches in a row was when there was more than 10 people playing in my region

[lost thicket]

QP is great cause OW is only good as a casual game and as esport game

OWL is so fun and fucking around in qp is also fun

[plush grail]

owl is cringe

[last nimbus]

who is fixa

never heard of him until now

[next mesa]

Ms for uprising academy

He was okay but he's no sanguinar

[vagrant jacinth]

Lmao even the blizzard earnings call is cancelled

[hot onyx]

Can’t wait for Fixa to beat Proper MN3 Apr1ta Pineapple Alphayi Diya Innovation Becky Guriyo Mer1t Kilo Hydron S9mm Seicoe Backbone Victoria Finale Zest Patiphan St3lker Venom Kellan Someone Reiner 800 False Finn Pr🤮v1de Vigilante Krillin Ultraviolet OJEE Unique Ch0rong Chiyo Vindiam Superrich Irony Admiral Skairipa and Opener in the ROTY race of 2022

[balmy wolf]

yes

[twilit oriole]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1488845973115879431?s=21

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

Sources: Overwatch League star Ki-Hyo “Xzi” Jung is set to make OWL return with LA Valiant.

Read more @Dexerto

https://t.co/cK532Q6A64

Twitter · Feb 2, 2022, 12:05 PM

[balmy wolf]

noooooo

not the valiant

[plush grail]

Whatt

[balmy wolf]

?

[north relic]

Diya xzi

[devout path]

Valiant making massive comeback this year

[balmy wolf]

whos gonna be the most mid team this year

[devout path]

Shock

[balmy wolf]

okay

did you say that cause i was a former shock fan

[devout path]

Florida is gonna be garbage

[balmy wolf]

probably

i want to see more checkmate main tank

:(

i dont think shock will be mid

all of their players are good

propers gonna carry anyways

Most mid team like every year

Is Toronto

maybe

[vagrant jacinth]

Yes

Toronto will be mid

I'm liking this valiant roster

[north relic]

Boston

It’s going to be Boston

Justice fusion maybe as well

[balmy wolf]

justice has a support line

they can probably make playoffs

and hopefully assassin gets better at sombra

[north relic]

Assassin sombra isn’t bad

[balmy wolf]

and assassin can get more consistent

[devout path]

No they have striker

[balmy wolf]

probably boston

so bottom half

[north relic]

Striker and then 4 mid teammates

Faith might be above average though

[devout path]

Valentine is cracked

[balmy wolf]

genuinly bad

[north relic]

reign Seoul and glads will be mid also

[devout path]

Valentine still my favorite fdps in the league

[devout path]

Bad take for all three

[north relic]

Shanghai fuel shock as well

[devout path]

Ok shock is true

[north relic]

Don’t forget valiant charge spark and Houston

[devout path]

Shanghai still best team in the world

Charge r just bad

[north relic]

I have charge above spark

[devout path]

Spark I don’t remember their roster

Houston have pelican so auto top level team

[balmy wolf]

lsd detected opinion rejected

[north relic]

Ids

[balmy wolf]

shhhh

[devout path]

Is that an i or an L

[balmy wolf]

L

[north relic]

It’s an l

[devout path]

Ok

[north relic]

Actually it’s a |

[balmy wolf]

shock will not be mid

[north relic]

That’s not very based of you

[balmy wolf]

the worst part of their team is dps line but they arent even that mid

[north relic]

worst part is their tank

[balmy wolf]

how

[north relic]

super isn’t bad but he isn’t as good as their dps line

[balmy wolf]

super is good

[vagrant jacinth]

No smurf no win

[balmy wolf]

no point in playing him cause smurf was better

at orisa and winston

[north relic]

I still rate smurf higher than super

[balmy wolf]

and maybe ball idk didnt see them play ball

[north relic]

Super only outclasses smurf on rein

[balmy wolf]

super probably better off tank

[devout path]

Smurf is better at everything except rein

Super is basically European

Rein otps smh

[balmy wolf]

super not rein otp!!!!

he is not bad at heros that arnet rein

[devout path]

Yes he is

[balmy wolf]

he is not

[vagrant jacinth]

Really isn't

Super good

[balmy wolf]

YES

you are all shock haters

[vagrant jacinth]

Damn, really gonna hurt when I reveal that I am a shock hater

But I'm not delusional

[north relic]

Super isn’t a rein otp but everything other than rein is kind of average or below average

Maybe other than orisa

[random magnet]

Super is the second best MT in the league

Gator #1

[balmy wolf]

i think his winston is fine

[devout path]

Funny take

Made me laugh

[balmy wolf]

it isnt bad

[north relic]

Compared to smurf super is masters on monkey

[balmy wolf]

what does that mean

[devout path]

It means super is bad at monkey compared to top monkeys

[balmy wolf]

noooo

[devout path]

Guxue is way better at monkey over super

[north relic]

Guxue monkey otp

[devout path]

And not as good as fearless

[north relic]

Smurf was the only person close to fearless in terms of monkey

[devout path]

Smurf wasn’t close to fearless this season

[north relic]

Not this season yes

[random magnet]

they should add channel based nicknames so i can have my nick in #esports-discussion being "gator #1 MT"

[devout path]

Literally mag was the only person close to fearless s4

On monkey

[balmy wolf]

no

no more gator

[north relic]

Not every team hard pockets their monkey like Dallas does though

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[random magnet]

moar gator

[balmy wolf]

NO

[devout path]

Ok fine then guxue

[balmy wolf]

no

super

[devout path]

Guxue pops without resources

[north relic]

Guxue is on spark

[balmy wolf]

and without a coach

[north relic]

Irrelevant

[balmy wolf]

guxue isnt as good at other heros

hes basically just a gator but not a rein otp

[north relic]

That makes no sense

[devout path]

Gator is better than super at pretty much every character

[north relic]

Basically gator without his best hero

Ignore the autocorrect 🤡

[balmy wolf]

super had better stats on rein

[vagrant jacinth]

What's all this simping for gator

[north relic]

Rein is pretty comparable

Between gator and super

Also for US owwc gator hawk might be a better tank line than super space

[balmy wolf]

super had better orisa stats too

hello there

[devout path]

It’s pretty close but i think the synergy of gator hawk

[random magnet]

hes the best MT in the league

[balmy wolf]

no more gator

[random magnet]

[balmy wolf]

me

[north relic]

What was the ___ overrated ____ has activated copypasta

[balmy wolf]

thank goodness nobody is talking about gator anymore

[devout path]

Super overrated fate outdated gator activated

[balmy wolf]

no

fax

[north relic]

Super overrated fate outdated gator activated

[balmy wolf]

nono

[vagrant jacinth]

Cease

[north relic]

No

[balmy wolf]

gator overrated fate outdated super activated

[north relic]

Super overrated fate outdated gator activated

[balmy wolf]

gator overrated guxue outdated super activated

[devout path]

Fearless overrated super outdated fate activated

As well fate is objectively the best mt in the world

[balmy wolf]

silver3 overrated shredlock outdated checkmate activated

[north relic]

I would put fate #1 mt

But he didn’t even get rolestar

Robbed

[balmy wolf]

robbed

i miss dding

i want to see him live

[north relic]

The man who rolled shock?

[balmy wolf]

yes

i wanted to see pharah gameplay

[north relic]

Watch Chengdu

[balmy wolf]

ok

[north relic]

Pharah was played a decent amount

This year

[balmy wolf]

i know

[north relic]

🥔

[random magnet]

[balmy wolf]

[tropic herald]

Valiant Xzi

[plush grail]

xzi washed

[tawdry hamlet]

Unironically Diem I think was hyper overrated because of the widow 1v1 now that I think about it

[willow tartan]

He rarely played in s3 and comes into the playoffs matching ans and playoffs fits on the widowmaker. Rated well enough.

[balmy wolf]

yeah!!!

[willow tartan]

I think he only had like an hour of playtime before playoffs? I don't remember

[vagrant jacinth]

Diem is just rated

I think you're right

[balmy wolf]

ian kissed me in dms

[plush grail]

[random magnet]

yoink

[plush grail]

why

[random magnet]

bc its an epic emoji

[plush grail]

nerd

[balmy wolf]

nerd gator fans

[balmy wolf]

no

yez

[random magnet]

no

[cedar oasis]

Marbel has successfully devolved

[hot onyx]

Into a Shock fan?

Nah Marbel isn’t that brain damaged

[cedar oasis]

Into thinking gator 1 main tank

[balmy wolf]

you block3d me

D:

haha

shock fans

weirdos

[balmy wolf]

[hot onyx]

So true bestie

[balmy wolf]

unlbock pls?

i am spark fan

[hot onyx]

No

[balmy wolf]

why not D;

[hot onyx]

Because you’re the antagonist

[balmy wolf]

.

unblock the antagonist so they can be the antagonist

i am not an antagonist

[hot onyx]

You propose a solid argument

Plus it’s pretty annoying to click “view blocked message” every time I’m interested in what drivel comes out of your mouth

[balmy wolf]

thanks :D

[plush grail]

u suck sans

[hot onyx]

No

My team sucks

Below Seoul, as nature intended

[cedar oasis]

Philly does suck

You have my sympathy

[hot onyx]

And they are also rich

[cedar oasis]

Poor carpe

[hot onyx]

And MN3

[cedar oasis]

He is trapped

Mn3 can leave

Carpe cant

[hot onyx]

Yeah but MN3 is going into his one year that he could win ROTY with a FiXa-Aimgod backline

[cedar oasis]

Sad

[hot onyx]

Also

[cedar oasis]

Fixa aimgod backline sounds like a bad dream

[hot onyx]

Remember how people are saying “Fury is actually good guys he just needs a decent backline to support him”

How much better is FiXa Aimgod compared to Closer Bebe?

[plush grail]

fun fact any tank can be a top tier with a good support line

[cedar oasis]

Roar

[hot onyx]

cOUgh Mano CouGH

[plush grail]

rawr xd

[cedar oasis]

Why do you do the thing that you do

[hot onyx]

Imagine doing better with Michelle ASJ Lastro than your counterpart with Hotba Fastro Alarm

[north relic]

Asj and lastro>alarm fastro it’s the only explanation

[plush grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/94882524378968064/931186352131817592/emoji.gif

[hot onyx]

That flat out hurts to read even ironically

[cedar oasis]

Remember the good old days when your team was good

I remember them

[plush grail]

i remember when u stopped talking for a while uvalo

[hot onyx]

I don’t

[north relic]

You can’t say that being a nyxl fan 😭

[cedar oasis]

Remember 2020 paris

[cedar oasis]

I can I am also remembering when my team was good

That quote could apply to most of the teams

[north relic]

Except every above average team

[hot onyx]

And Seoul

And Boston

Because they were never “good”

[balmy wolf]

souel :(

[cedar oasis]

Boston was good s1

They were like 4th overall

[next mesa]

xzi huge pikcup

pickup

too bad he'll be benched by diya innovatino most of the time

[fallen turret]

Toronto and Washington have never rly been good

[cedar oasis]

Washington were good that one time decay did stuff on zarya

[gusty rampart]

XZI TO VALIANT??????

[balmy wolf]

yes

[gusty rampart]

One made Grand Finals the other was good in season 1

[hot onyx]

One got a lucky meta the other had one good stage and got 3-0’d in the finals

[noble nexus]

one got a lucky meta the other had striker*

[next mesa]

no such thing as lucky metas

dragons were so lucky they were good at ball dude

shock was lucky goats was meta

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[noble nexus]

mickey mouse hog buffs to "make the playoffs more interesting" is lucky

[plush grail]

hey jack

[balmy wolf]

shock seems to struggle when there isnt a really good meta team comp

[noble nexus]

what

[plush grail]

how are u

[noble nexus]

wtf are you being nice for

[cedar oasis]

Ian stop your poor attempt at bieng nice

[plush grail]

jack this is the reason why u get 0 bitches

im being nice

[noble nexus]

I don't want bitches

[balmy wolf]

jack so nice

[noble nexus]

I'm content

[balmy wolf]

ian is so mean tho

[noble nexus]

factual

[plush grail]

not correct

[cedar oasis]

Ian stop trying

Its weird

Like who are you

Wheres the real one

[plush grail]

:(

[north relic]

As a fusion fan you must think second place is bad

[balmy wolf]

fusion fans 🤮

im a spark fan now

see

[north relic]

once a shock fan always a shock fan

[balmy wolf]

now people cant say ew shock fan to me

IM A SPARK FAN

[cedar oasis]

Ew shock fan

[north relic]

Ew shock fan

[balmy wolf]

Ew shock fan

haha

lets bully the shock fans

yay

[cedar oasis]

The whomegaglol will always be a shock fan

[balmy wolf]

no

[north relic]

I have 4 blocked messages what does it say

[cedar oasis]

Same

[balmy wolf]

unblock me pls

[cedar oasis]

Let me check

[balmy wolf]

i am a changed person

[cedar oasis]

The whomegaglol said he is not a shock fan and he wants you to unlock him

[north relic]

Unlock him?

Ask him if he has a key

[balmy wolf]

unblock*

[cedar oasis]

Unblock

My phone autocorrects the worst stuff

[north relic]

Who wants me to unblock them?

[balmy wolf]

ME

[cedar oasis]

The whomegaglol

[north relic]

whomegalul

[cedar oasis]

Apparently he isnt a shock fan anymore

Idk tho

[balmy wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/talk-to-wall-talking-wall-brick-gif-15725457

[cedar oasis]

Probably lying

[balmy wolf]

me rn

[cedar oasis]

Whomegalul

[balmy wolf]

was godsb a good player

[cedar oasis]

Ow thinks I'm a smurf and keeps putting gms in my game

How do I fix this

[north relic]

Duo with a bronze player like sans

[cedar oasis]

What about you lsd

[north relic]

I’ve shown proof I’m masters

[cedar oasis]

I had gold damage as zen when we qued together

[north relic]

I had gold elims

That’s all that matters on tracer

[cedar oasis]

What about bastion

[north relic]

I had gold healing on bastion

Also I was widow most of that game

So it doesn’t count

You saw me clicking heads

[cedar oasis]

i think i did

idk

dva was on my ass the whole game

[north relic]

sounds hot

[noble nexus]

wow really dva diving supports?

who would've thought

[cedar oasis]

i was so far back

[north relic]

Beta

Just beat her in a 1v1

[cedar oasis]

ok

[balmy wolf]

ok

[plush grail]

u suck

sorry

[balmy wolf]

who

[plush grail]

u

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/SirMajed9/status/1488945428762701824

Majed (@SirMajed9)

For OWL 🧐🧐🧐

Twitter · Feb 2, 2022, 6:40 PM

[balmy wolf]

:(

[next mesa]

SirMajed but casters can call him Majed

imo

[balmy wolf]

sir majed

thank goodness everyone didnt block me

[cedar oasis]

levy didnt block the whomegalul

kinda wierd

[balmy wolf]

:(

[vagrant jacinth]

Gator fans gone, I can come back

[balmy wolf]

yay no more gator fans

woohoo

[vagrant jacinth]

SirMajed's the way to go

[balmy wolf]

hellooooo

gator bet main tank ong

[worn falcon]

[vagrant jacinth]

Ah fuck they're back

[north relic]

Gator overrated, gator still best main tank

[balmy wolf]

agreed

[cedar oasis]

gator bad

[north relic]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/siw6i0/shanghai_dragons_launch_fight_for_love_official/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[vagrant cargo]

gator nft bro

[north relic]

New shanghai merch for memeicus

[balmy wolf]

gator sucks

[vagrant cargo]

So he not coo anymore

[tropic herald]

based

[tawdry hamlet]

Tragic

[plush grail]

ME AND THE HOMIES

[balmy wolf]

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/DpsDeku/status/1488903635920736259

Deku (@DpsDeku)

Hog mains are the type of ppl that use water to make hot chocolate instead of milk 🤨

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Twitter · Feb 2, 2022, 3:54 PM

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[raw ermine]

yuck

[last nimbus]

paris should've dropped daan and signed kraandop

[hot onyx]

Ah yes, because 2 main tanks and 0 flex support is a good idea

[last nimbus]

excuse me, i changed my message

i was completely out of sync with my brainwaves for a second

[north relic]

double main tank meta coming

[vagrant jacinth]

I just want to go to homestand

[north relic]

nyxl homestand when

since they are back in NA

[balmy wolf]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4J8W9j1JOQ-G7D5bhA-bfVBxR8DOCih4

toronto will never win games

not after seeing this

without na1st

toronto wont win

[north relic]

they lost michelle

they are good

[balmy wolf]

okay

[hot onyx]

Double tank

[north relic]

depressing innit

[balmy wolf]

toronto inted that entire clip

besides na1st

[hot onyx]

Still doesn’t mean Na1st is gonna find a team

[north relic]

naist was below average in terms of flex dps

flex dps is so damn stacked

[hot onyx]

I mean who was Na1st better than last season

[north relic]

teru molanran blase

[hot onyx]

Molanran Blasè Feath5r

[north relic]

naga

not trolling

!

[hot onyx]

Architect

[north relic]

mirror

colorhex is hs or fdps

[hot onyx]

Hs

[north relic]

why is he benching valentine then

[hot onyx]

Because Valentine is just that bad

And Chex is that good

[north relic]

guys important blizzard news coming soon

[hot onyx]

In case Fusion sign Belosrea while I am asleep

[tacit skiff]

haha aimgod kekw

[sullen berry]

Just because you post it enough times doesn't make it any more valid

Fusion signing belosrea sounds about on par with that roster rebuild for new talent

[hot onyx]

Ok Rio apologist

[balmy wolf]

ri

[hot onyx]

!!leave

[young fractal]

None left the chat.

[north relic]

gator>rio

[balmy wolf]

super > gator

!!leave

[young fractal]

mystary | anti omnic left the chat.

[next mesa]

Smurf>super

!!leave

[young fractal]

Levy | Rest in peace Alarm left the chat.

[north relic]

smurf>gator>super

!!leave

[young fractal]

None left the chat.

[sullen berry]

OK Chipsa 1 map simp

[north relic]

chipsa has the best winrate in league history

[earnest leaf]

this is an actual good ranking

[worn falcon]

Seoul hopium

[next mesa]

Seoul not #2 so bad

Seoul slaps glads

[earnest leaf]

seoul supports and coaching I want to see first

[next mesa]

S L A P

Who's glads coach again

Assistant to dpei

Vindaim jjonak very PogU

Honestly lowkey shock glads very close

I thought glads easily take

But

[worn falcon]

Tobi coaching

[next mesa]

The proper factor

[north relic]

Boston too high

[earnest leaf]

issue with glads is pati is a big question mark, and ans has to get much more flexible to work well with kevster

[next mesa]

I would put nyxl above boston

Fusion is way too high

[north relic]

Nyxl diffs Boston diffs on everything other than tracer and still they have yaki for tracer

[earnest leaf]

Ans feasts on those hard hitscan heroes, and not being on those doesn't make him as impactful

[next mesa]

Fusion is probably around charge level

[noble nexus]

glads have unter

seoul has tobi

• ratio

• fuck you Levy

[tropic herald]

Xzi

[next mesa]

I don't see ans being more flexible

[earnest leaf]

My point mainly is Ans should be there for cree/ashe/widow 90% of the time

and pati to fill in the gaps

[next mesa]

Imo proper >= Kevster, ans easily beats kilo but s9mm is better than pati rn

[earnest leaf]

but pati is an unknown

[next mesa]

I agree

A huge unknown honestly

He is looking rough even in ranked

There's still 2 months though

[north relic]

Surprised levy didn’t do a proper>>>>>kevster

[next mesa]

Kevster is still good

[north relic]

Yea

[next mesa]

Proper especially on tracer could slap anyone tho

The only one where I would be like proper >>> x on tracer is striker

Wouldn't*

[north relic]

even leave or lip?

how high are you ranking venom on tracer also

[next mesa]

Oh yeah and leave

Lip is good but not proper

Venom

Super fucking high

Fleta profit level

[earnest leaf]

That's a bit high for no owl playtime yet

[next mesa]

Not to mention Atlanta scouting for DPS has always been super on point

[north relic]

for proper or venom

[earnest leaf]

venom

[next mesa]

It is

But I rate him high

A bit below profit

Profit 👑👑👑

[noble nexus]

Bad opinion

[next mesa]

That's physically impossible for me to have sry

[noble nexus]

Who

[next mesa]

What a good take by me

[tacit skiff]

chex is the best mei the league has ever seen

[tawdry hamlet]

Ans isn't gonna go above mid and Patiphan will never play unless the game is drastically different everyone needs to learn fresh and he has the same level as everyone again

Which potentially could be and that's why they signed him

But realistically in any ow1 style game he's outdone by peers rn

[balmy wolf]

yes

kevster only dps of glads

[lost thicket]

anyone seen those "Ow 2 scrims" things

like Boston v Florida stuff

watched a bit of it but prolly bull

[lost thicket]

"Ans isn't gonna go above mid" no.

n Pati will probably be for double FDPS with some flex to hs

remember he was on the level of sparkle

[earnest leaf]

actual wrong take on ans

Keep ans on his hero pool, he fucks, simple

[lost thicket]

re-watching super on genji

jesus man is actually pretty solid lmao, yeah SFS is way better than Boston but like

there are some small plays that are really good

[earnest leaf]

People forget owl players usually have universally good mechanics

even the MTs and MSs

[lost thicket]

Dashes in, right clicks close range, deflects Hog shot allowing Striker on tracer to kill Fusion

he plays more passively but goes in pretty good with team

and out dps Colourhex

[lost thicket]

yeah

everyone except LAV S4 (except Molarran) is really good tbh, like to be in OWL for s3/s4 means top of the line

even outside your role you should be solid

maybe not OWL level

but ya know

ladder good

[worn falcon]

Diya/xzi

Hopium time

[lost thicket]

Diya/Xzi/Innovation/Becky

3 HS

1 FDPS

"super showed us a interesting style of genji where you really don't take too many risk and you sit and you play for blade and than you pull the blade out and then you stand there"

watching Platchat reviewing sungji

Josh see's the vision

[worn falcon]

Super gengo > Haksal gengo

[lost thicket]

banger oomfies

[tawdry hamlet]

Ans can't play flankers and his lack of flexibility that birdring had hurts them

Birdring having flankers and Hanzo and all the snipers was really convenient

Patiphan hasn't played pro in like 3 years

Assuming tracer Sombra never happens they'll be fine but as Florida showed us that can be a bit of a problem

Just feels like glads signed hype names and not like to build a roster

[earnest leaf]

I can agree his flexibility is the main issue

Which we would assume pati would cover those gaps, but pati last I saw was low gm in ranked somehow still

[gusty rampart]

Haksal is my king so no

[sullen berry]

But at least it's significantly cheaper signings than Roar or Decay?

[hot onyx]

Other than Boston above bottom 3 and Paris below Mayhem it’s good list

[trim shadow]

sounds like the last season that just passed

[hot onyx]

Ehh idk

I’d have a lot less faith in Glads if they still had Dpei

[sullen berry]

plus they got face

[hot onyx]

Face Unter and Boss

Over Dpei Tydolla and someone else

[sullen berry]

face also

but as assistant coach

[hot onyx]

Ah

[earnest leaf]

I think glads and shock are honestly pretty similar in terms of their situations

Glads have some new pieces coming in that will have to prove themselves, pati/reiner are two rookies that have to do well or else glads will struggle imo

Also Face seemed solid at assistant coach, can he pull it together and do well as HC?

[hot onyx]

Hopefully Face going from assistant to head goes better than the last two

[earnest leaf]

Shock is basically them needing their rookies to not be a bust

But they got ninek back

last time shock had crusty/ninek with a pretty fresh team, we go S2 shock

[hot onyx]

Yeah but

There’s only so much you can do with solo tank super

[earnest leaf]

Eh I think he'll be reliable enough

Only time we would see issues is if tank ends up being really op in ow2, and on top of that winston/ball being super important

[hot onyx]

Off tank is gonna be irrelevant for like 80% of the season minimum but there’s only so much rein and hog comps you can force

Super orisa is overrated and his winston and ball are c tier at best

Maybe low B

[vagrant jacinth]

I think there'll be a ton of rein comps before teams start figuring out other comps so super will do fine

Shock just needs the rookies to pop or it's game over

[hot onyx]

Proper and Finn will be perfectly fine

Kilo and S9mm need to pull their weight though

Rule #1: don’t bench Proper

[vagrant jacinth]

Yes, the guy's a nut

[hot onyx]

Still kinda sad that MN3 didn’t go to a good team

[vagrant jacinth]

Don't know how hard he can carry with an aimgod/fixa backline

[hot onyx]

Don’t know how hard Lip could carry with an Aimgod/FiXa backline

[north relic]

Top 5 back line honestly

[vagrant jacinth]

Strange pickup

[hot onyx]

If it was between FiXa and like Lego or some dumb shit that’d be fine

But Sanguinar and Jecse are still on the market

And iirc there hasn’t been any rumour about either of them joining Shock or NYXL

[vagrant jacinth]

Sanguinar would've been such a good one

Weren't their rumours of him going to justice early in the off season

[hot onyx]

Yeah but it was only mindless speculation

How tf is FiXa Opener and Anamo in the league but at least one of Jecse Sanguinar Moth and FDGod is going to miss out on a spot

[vagrant jacinth]

I remember when people were talking about how this was it for anamo when he posted his lft

And then he got picked up lmao

Really is wild that none of them 4 have been signed

[tawdry hamlet]

How is aimgod in the league and how is diem still lft 😭

Diem to charge !

[hot onyx]

Tbf flex support gets a little slim after you see Finn Krillin and Myunbong signed as backups

[vagrant jacinth]

Carpe with no diem pepehands

[hot onyx]

Plus Aimgod deserves to be in the league more than MCD and Pr🤮v1de

[vagrant jacinth]

Provide signing is an L ngl

[next mesa]

finn is cracked

so is vigilante

[vagrant jacinth]

Vigilante won't be eligible for a while yet though iirc

[north relic]

Isn’t fixa not aged until like a month after opening day

Carpe on mercy pog

[vagrant jacinth]

May 2nd

But we don't know when in April the leagues gonna start

[hot onyx]

22nd according to Hastro

[north relic]

22nd according to me

[vagrant jacinth]

Man

[north relic]

Woman

[vagrant jacinth]

It's so far

Plat chat the only thing keeping me going

[north relic]

We are about like 65% the way there

[vagrant jacinth]

That and you guys 😘

[hot onyx]

Current signings/confirmations we’re still waiting on because I’m bored
Outlaws: mt and ms
NYXL: ot and ms
Shock: ot and ms
Justice: mt and fdps
Titans: mt
Fusion: mt
Valiant: mt and ms
Dynasty: ot
Eternal: a decent roster

[vagrant jacinth]

Lmaoo

Still a lot to be announced

[hot onyx]

Also has there been any confirmation on Hunters players anywhere?

I assume they keep Leave Jinmu GA9A Nisha and MMonk

Maybe Farway for double fs

[cedar oasis]

How you gonna attack ian like that sans

This is the reason he is always so mean

[north relic]

61% to be exact

[hot onyx]

Maybe if Ian was a little nicer I would be too

Or maybe if he wasn’t a Paris fan

[cedar oasis]

Ian's just sad paris let go of their top 3 team and he hasent recovered from it yet

[hot onyx]

Fusion let go of my top 3 team

In exchange for a couple of washed up shitlets and a secondary hitscan downgrade without a top tier sombra

[cedar oasis]

Everybody's so sad

[hot onyx]

You don’t see me being a jackass, just sad

[cedar oasis]

It's the first time this has happened to paris

That was their one chance to win

[hot onyx]

At least I could watch my favourite top tier support duo

[cedar oasis]

Fusion has had like 2 chances to win

[vagrant jacinth]

Yeah, I'm assuming they're keeping all them

[hot onyx]

4 actually

[cedar oasis]

Oh

When

[hot onyx]

season 1 stage 2 finals vs NYXL

[north relic]

Shu fastro

[hot onyx]

season 1 grand finals vs Spitfire

season 3 summer showdown vs EM Eternal

season 3 countdown cup vs Shonk

[cedar oasis]

It's fine it will get better

[vagrant jacinth]

Best owl moment

[cedar oasis]

It does get better right?

Nyxl have kinda gotten worse

Pls tell me it gets better

[hot onyx]

yeah the 3 best players on the team either moved or had an unfortunate turn of events

all being replaced by mid/bottom counterparts

[cedar oasis]

Nyxl had like 7 chances to win

[hot onyx]

at least you can blame IMT

[cedar oasis]

Yea totally

It's fine my heart has broken enough that I'm immune to it now

Cant say the same about the rest of you guys

[hot onyx]

you have two stage titles

[cedar oasis]

So???

[hot onyx]

quit being a baby you have happy memories

[cedar oasis]

So do you

You made it to the finals

Nyxl never did

They lost at semis twice

[hot onyx]

grand finals counts for shut

they didn't win

[cedar oasis]

Grand finals better then stage titals

[hot onyx]

because fusion did better at playoffs does that make them the better all around team than nyxl season 1??

[cedar oasis]

Idk

Maybey at the end

Nyxl was on something at the end of the season

[hot onyx]

playoffs is just another tournament masked as something bigger for marketability

[cedar oasis]

At least your whole team didnt fall off

[hot onyx]

literally equal to a stage tournament

[cedar oasis]

Every nyxl player has fallen off

Except maybe jonnak

[hot onyx]

nah jj fell off

hotba didn't

and NYXL has a competent roster this year

and more importantly

Kuki Undine coaching line

[cedar oasis]

That's like saying you lost both your legs but dont worry you still got your arms to crawl

[hot onyx]

all that's left of NYXL from last year is Flora Undine and a player manager

could've kept Kalios but life doesn't always work how you want it to

look at who your team aquired compared to mine

[cedar oasis]

I take comfort in the fact that nyxl was good once unlike most teams

[hot onyx]

Yaki or Zest

Kellan or Fury

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[hot onyx]

Gangnamjin or Aimgod

Jecse/Sanguinar or FiXa

[cedar oasis]

Let's face it Sans both our teams are mid

[balmy wolf]

aimgod is so cool

[hot onyx]

no uvalo

your team is mid/above mid

[balmy wolf]

hes literally ripped af

[hot onyx]

my team is 14th

[cedar oasis]

Yours is low mid

You got carpe still

And umm

[hot onyx]

mine beats Charge Valiant and Seoul on a bad day

[balmy wolf]

ur a nyxl fan now?

[worn falcon]

10 years of carpe

[hot onyx]

oh boy the Carpe hater is here

[cedar oasis]

To be fair apac teams can be good one week and trash the next

[worn falcon]

wat

i am a carpe fan since beta.

🐟

[hot onyx]

hey Cuyo, how much better would the current Philadelphia Fusion roster be if MN3 solo hitscanned?

maybe should've read before finishing typin

[cedar oasis]

At least your not the titans

[hot onyx]

🎣

honestly

[worn falcon]

but they close to titans

[hot onyx]

if Fusion do not sign Sado/JJANGGU

[worn falcon]

Maybe Toronto s3

[hot onyx]

Titans > Fusion

[cedar oasis]

You still got your fans tho

[hot onyx]

ah yes the second worst fanbase in owl

i will hold them close to my heart

[cedar oasis]

I think most of nyxl fans left when the og team left

[hot onyx]

and most Fusion fans will leave when Carpe retires for Valorant next year

[cedar oasis]

Ha you think they will let carpe retire

[hot onyx]

free country

[cedar oasis]

Mostly

[hot onyx]

heck if i'm immigrating roles for ow2 might as well immigrate teams

#shieldsup

[next mesa]

actually hilarious

hotba was dogshit

[hot onyx]

hotba was 8th last season

maybe 9th

[next mesa]

again he was like second or third worst ot in apac

not to mention that one time he got super diffed by showcheng

[worn falcon]

first one outlaws

[next mesa]

gosh

fuckin embarassing

[worn falcon]

imagine not remembering the Banshees for outlaws

[hot onyx]

Hotba had one bad map vs Valiant and a bad stage for Summer Showdown

[worn falcon]

Pogba

[hot onyx]

pretty neat that MM CC and Playoffs are forgotten

and that you're forgetting how bad Toyou was on non-zarya heroes

[hot onyx]

Outlaws fans are nowhere near as bad as Shock fans

[next mesa]

no lol

toyou's dva and sig were much much better than hotba

hotba zarya is good

[worn falcon]

toyou was a feeder tf u smoking levy

[hot onyx]

Seoul fan moment

[next mesa]

in fact fusion had to force zarya because hotba is so bad

[hot onyx]

can't wait for you to defend Mayhem picking up Anamo

[next mesa]

Did you read my thoughts on mayhem picking up anamo

anamo is fucking dogshit

[hot onyx]

cough countdown cup

[next mesa]

you ignorant fool

[hot onyx]

well i actually did not read your thoughts and was mistaken

what about your Marve1 Uprising thoughts?

[next mesa]

fine pickup

marve1's fine especially in a 5v5 scenario he can play any tank

[worn falcon]

i miss this fool

[hot onyx]

well yeah i see that appeal

but holy shit he is so average

and i saw him play when he subbed for Belosrea on T1

[vagrant cargo]

toyou sig n dva fuck

[hot onyx]

and without exaggerating he was the 2nd worst player on that team

[vagrant cargo]

marve1 mid

[worn falcon]

Like fits

[hot onyx]

stuck in contenders gauntlet moment

[lost thicket]

his orisa/monke/rein are all great

now his ball?

no

[hot onyx]

great monke

super??

[worn falcon]

they gonna make super a flex tank

[lost thicket]

yeah, he struggled against shd cause they tried dumb shit

but throughout the season his ball is good at the least, best rein and a great orisa aswell

[worn falcon]

since SFS lost Choi

[hot onyx]

average tier 3 supertf subscriber

[lost thicket]

his ball is what keeps him off t3 mt tbh

like his monke is good, orisa great, rein the best and his ball is awful

[hot onyx]

humour me

name the winstons that super is better than

[vagrant jacinth]

Gonna miss choi, the guy was monstrous

[hot onyx]

fearless?

[balmy wolf]

what do you think of boston uprising?

[worn falcon]

mid

[hot onyx]

20th, next question

[worn falcon]

like bottom mid

[vagrant jacinth]

They are an owl team

[vagrant cargo]

his monkey isnt good

[lost thicket]

not people like fearless ofc but his winston is still solid, against teams like shd they struggled a lot but rewatch some of the matches where he was winston, he did good against mid-high teams, just not top tier ones

[vagrant cargo]

yeah

while having

a top tier surrounding team

that does not speak for him

[hot onyx]

damn can't believe he mtd'd Sado with Michelle ASJ and Lastro when he had Choi Viol2t Twilight

such a fair battle

this speaks volumes of his winston mechanical prowess

[vagrant cargo]

Fr

[next mesa]

true!

[hot onyx]

doesn't fuck enough to not be benched by double main tank

[next mesa]

he didnt though

lol

tf you on about

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/ChiYo_ow1/status/1489127547128279043?t=J6QR3cylVEzJjjw5dfw3Bw&s=19

ChiYo (@ChiYo_ow1)

Luico https://t.co/D62jHvdUhD

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Twitter · Feb 3, 2022, 6:44 AM

[next mesa]

saw that

too cracked

fdgod but smart

hopefully

[hot onyx]

hotba could do that blindfolded