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#esports-discussion
balmy wolf
balmy wolf
put them in cause they put shock #1
cedar oasis
he doesnt even have regular
balmy wolf
i think
vagrant jacinth
Consistently b tier 😎
worn falcon
goddamn it, i got phillied
plush grail
where am i
balmy wolf
loserigi
cedar oasis
hes a clown for that
digital cloud
can't believe we have two paris fans now
cedar oasis
luigi is atleast a tier
digital cloud
its like being a houston fan
north relic
I’m quite optimistic towards 5v5 since there are no more hog tank partners and I can feel stronk solo
balmy wolf
I’m quite optimistic towards 5v5 since there are no more hog tank partners and I...
fuck hog
cedar oasis
its like being a houston fan
i am a paris fan because nyxl broke my heart to many times
balmy wolf
your being put to b teir for that lsd
vagrant jacinth
can't believe we have two paris fans now
Ikr, two people actively choosing to support paris
I'll miss tank synergy
north relic
Ikr, two people actively choosing to support paris
In public also
vagrant jacinth
Ikr
digital cloud
tank synergy was so fun
balmy wolf
and i thought 1 was enough
digital cloud
sure hog is ass, but it was what got me up in the morning
balmy wolf
your a shcok fan
ratio
cedar oasis
imagine using twitter
balmy wolf
imagine paris fan
north relic
I only use Twitter for news yea
balmy wolf
i dont use twitter
but my name in twitter is like
duehfhsidjd
something like that
vagrant jacinth
Literally only use it for owl stuff
random magnet
lez gooo
balmy wolf
thank fucking god I'm not on that list
ah i forgot about u
hold on
lemmie put you where you belong
noble nexus
getting blocked again
noble nexus
not getting blocked
noble nexus
some of them are ok
noble nexus
blocked
balmy wolf
ok b
noble nexus
one blocked message
next mesa
vagrant jacinth
Pog promoted
worn falcon
🦀 OWL IS DEAD 🦀
vagrant jacinth
Good tier list
balmy wolf
!!joined
young fractalBOT
You joined on Dec 30, 2021
next mesa
look at this fucking guy
balmy wolf
oh
next mesa
less than a month ago
vagrant jacinth
Owl revival arc
next mesa
bring back ogn productions
do it pussy
FUCKING
DO IT
JUST
DO IT
MAKE OUR DREAMS COME TRUE
JUST FUCKING DO IT
balmy wolf
what is ogn productions
balmy wolf
okay
worn falcon
EloHell
next mesa
just take all the ex personnel
worn falcon
Ex Jaynes work
worn falcon
exactly
worn falcon
Make OWL irrelevant
next mesa
eletric boogaloo
electric*
dude
APEX had so much personality
literally whoru singing on stage
how fucking pog is that
but no
tawdry hamlet
vagrant jacinth
according to Yiska and biased, seems reliable
Does seem so. I wouldn't be surprised if it did tbf
north relic
guys good news COMING SOON
hot onyx
Less chance of getting a good tank too
balmy wolf
1 trick tanks will ruin the game
and i wonder
what will gold players need as a pacifier now
will they still want rein?
north relic
dont have to worry about 1 trick tanks if you are a tank player
balmy wolf
dont have to worry about 1 trick tanks if you are a tank player
yeah
:D
!!will gold players need a rein as a pacifier still
young fractalBOT
My reply is no.
worn falcon
But moving the production for live and broadcast seems a big step
Blizz still owns OWL, but everything goes to third party
Could be hit or miss.
and since OGN is dead, maybe ESL-FaceIt or the one MS uses.
or some scuffed indie production to get NA production.
willow tartan
why would that be true
i say 0 percent chance owl goes third party
at least not this year
since they still got that YT deal as well
willow tartan
Plat Chat League is real 
balmy wolf
bruh
aint no way
uvalo is regular
and im not
im gonna lose it
man wasnt active for 6 months
balmy wolf
gets it instantly
cedar oasis
i was here every day for 3 months and i only just got it now
balmy wolf
yall just mad my predictions were always right
so u want to take my pic perms
so u dont get emberassed with ur shitty opinions
anyways
can owl finally start??
also
@plush grail
mf
i joined the club
with the difference that i dont have to make an alt acc
north relic
your cousin doesnt count
balmy wolf
Marbel so nooby...
who tf are u?
storm dirge
A regular
balmy wolf
vagrant jacinth
Lmaoo
cedar oasis
BURN
noble nexus
@balmy wolf Hey welcome to esports discussion man, you must be new here so if you need any help lmk :)
vagrant jacinth
Hahahaha
balmy wolf
@Marbel Hey welcome to esports discussion man, you must be new here so if you need any help lmk :)
north relic
!!welcome
young fractalBOT
Welcome to the server! Please remember to read #rules and #647027996070379520 and enjoy your stay!
noble nexus
!!welcome
young fractalBOT
Welcome to the server! Please remember to read #rules and #647027996070379520 and enjoy your stay!
balmy wolf
!!welcome
young fractalBOT
Welcome to the server! Please remember to read #rules and #647027996070379520 and enjoy your stay!
balmy wolf
hopefully you can get the regular role from being here
vagrant jacinth
Stop bullying the new kid smh
vagrant jacinth
Only if they're paris fans
balmy wolf
oh
noble nexus
or atlanta fans*
willow tartan
no the reason you lost regular marbel was because you own an egirl server
filled w people who say some real weirdge shit
north relic
tf is that
🐧
willow tartan
???
i am literally the only normal person there
and that's something coming from me
balmy wolf
are you sure
willow tartan
by comparison those people make me look sane
balmy wolf
what if i said i hate shd
cedar oasis
your a totl wierdo
willow tartan
then you're weird
cedar oasis
yep
willow tartan
yeah go suck off avalla some more
balmy wolf
if theres a cult let me in
noble nexus
Memeicus is a fucking absolute weirdo
cedar oasis
go suck of fate
willow tartan
Memeicus is a fucking absolute weirdo
exactly!
so the fact that marbel's server is somehow even more stranger
thats jsut
wowzers you know
willow tartan
he's european of course he is
noble nexus
shd 🤮
vagrant jacinth
He's been a fan since Sept 2021
willow tartan
they were the closets mtea to me
and nowa ri just stuck them
youi haev to commit to your team
balmy wolf
preach
balmy wolf
yeah
noble nexus
and nowa ri just stuck them
willow tartan
you're actually just dyslexic
balmy wolf
a shock fan can understand it better then you
noble nexus
wtf does and nowa ri just stuck them even mean you chimp brain cro magnon ape caveman headass
north relic
you people bully shd fans
we bully every fan
north relic
is there a team we dont bully
noble nexus
valiant
balmy wolf
charge maybe
noble nexus
they have no fans
vagrant jacinth
Only the irrelevant ones
north relic
actually we dont bully kenobi for supporting charge
vagrant jacinth
Was literally about to bring that up
willow tartan
actually we dont bully kenobi for supporting charge
supporting charge already is all the bullying in itself
also hes't not in chat neough for me to ublly ihm
cedar oasis
yea
vagrant jacinth
Yeah but there's always something new to discuss
When did new lore drop? Cassidy comic?
north relic
What more lore is there to discuss
it got some comics recently
but i would say a lot of it is speculating and answering the uneducated
vagrant jacinth
I remember the tracer one, that was mediocre
north relic
that last part is the majority though
cedar oasis
yea
vagrant jacinth
Yes but we actually have fresh things to discuss
balmy wolf
like isgnings
vagrant jacinth
Yes
balmy wolf
ans
vagrant jacinth
isgnings
balmy wolf
merit
cedar oasis
go back to clown college and learn how to spell pls
vagrant jacinth
Merit yeah
balmy wolf
go back to clown college and learn how to spell pls
be qusiet pariss fxbjanfan
balmy wolf
shur up padais lsoeer
balmy wolf
tf
balmy wolf
pzoggers
vagrant jacinth
PROS IN A SOAP 😲
north relic
ok this video is actually pretty good
balmy wolf
shiterzerszorrs
vagrant jacinth
That was a fever dream
balmy wolf
fervwffer fresreddrream
vagrant jacinth
but a fight is probably gonna happen on my bus
Join in
vagrant jacinth
Shoes may be used as projectiles
noble nexus
yo stop talking
balmy wolf
wtf is this steryotype
like
5 kids were in a line
all of them had airpods
the exact same kind
balmy wolf
ok
vagrant jacinth
🤢
cedar oasis
talk about paris more
yes
plush grail
Down bad
noble nexus
weeb
plush grail
???
north relic
my man fucks weebs
hot onyx
imagine dropping hanbin
Imagine dropping Envy
balmy wolf
no you cant
north relic
it says so right there
vagrant jacinth
It does say so right there
sullen berry
Valid and based Sans Tier list for 2022
hot onyx
Valid and based Sans Tier list for 2022
There’s like 7 people missing but still valid because Luigi F
sullen berry
Your call if you want to do another one mid-season, we're sure to bring back at least one or two people who are here for the OW2 content and nothing else
If they aren't muted like akashra thinking they got banned
hot onyx
Sure why not, I love objectifying people based on their personalities and opinions
noble nexus
objectify me please
willow tartan
totally completely objective rating
north relic
might be sensitive content for ana mains
sullen berry
tracers
gusty rampart
U win ez
earnest leaf
nah we lost
tiny pollen
omw to throw so super gets rank 1
tropic herald
forcing ds in ladder 
earnest leaf
the fuck do you want me to play
tropic herald
monkey
earnest leaf
hell no
I have too many players on my team that work with double shield well
uv/hawk/s9mm all play heroes that do well in it
sullen berry
I just wanted to play some tank man
POV you are August https://clips.twitch.tv/BashfulBraveTroutRedCoat-0SSKMGiN01et0S1m
worn falcon
Monkey flame vs Monkey super
earnest leaf
there is something very wrong with matchmaking
why am I, 3900 on that acc at the time, on the same team as a tank who is 4700
I didn't get flamed so I know I did fine enough at least
sullen berry
Esports Engine got OWL and CDL it seems
at least this a good pickup. I'll imagine the costs to acquire was not that high
worn falcon
Esports Engine got OWL and CDL it seems
Confirmed?
So Yiska former editor was right
lol
This isn't overwatch league
At least not their logo
They have CDL
tiny pollen
if they sell owl does that mean that blizzard funding will be gone
worn falcon
Blizzard still own OWL, just production/live broadcast pass to a third party
tawdry hamlet
I didn't get flamed so I know I did fine enough at least
Atlanta reign new backup tank 😤
Can hang with owl players is owl ready ez gg
willow tartan
Why they gotta use the shittiest ow logo
they gotta at least bring back sideshow and bren
that's step no 1
worn falcon
vagrant jacinth
Insightful
People didn't think they were moving on from ow as a whole, did they?
north relic
45 ads damn
vagrant jacinth
There are a lot lmao
digital cloud
I think a few people did, but mostly I think they are bemoaning an end of an era
despite many thinking Uber was the best caster, I think many people see sideshow and bren as like, the heart of owl or something, idk
I know I think something along those lines
devout path
Sideshow and bren are definitely the most iconic owl talent
tropic herald
I think Yeah
Also Avrl goated
LemonDay in OWL is pretty wicked if I that happens
balmy wolf
they will prolly replace bren and josh
cedar oasis
Marbel with the big brain idea
Who would have thought that they would replace josh and bren now that they left
worn falcon
north relic
Who would have thought that they would replace josh and bren now that they left
🐧🧠💥💥💥💥💥
lost thicket
Replace one person on each team for someone you'd think is better
like for the team
Twilight > Fielder
imo
gusty rampart
Fielder is debatably better than Twilight imo
willow tartan
Replace one person on each team for someone you'd think is better
literally replace every other main support with leejaegon
gusty rampart
Very true
north relic
just replace your weakest player with the shanghai counterpart
willow tartan
replace fits with fleta for gamer duo 
north relic
for seoul their weakest role is probably fs
lost thicket
literally replace every other main support with leejaegon
So uh, I can safely assume you like shd kekw
lost thicket
Fielder is debatably better than Twilight imo
Eh, twilight better ana
willow tartan
leejaegon > every other main support in the league
north relic
So uh, I can safely assume you like shd kekw
click whis profile
willow tartan
north relic
Eh, twilight better ana
fielder bap moira are probably better
lost thicket
leejaegon > every other main support in the league
Peak moth no but otherwise sure
next mesa
replace fits with fleta for gamer duo <:troel:837595841446412319>
Think about how we could've had that
next mesa
If fleta didn't leave Seoul sadge
north relic
peak ljg>peak moth tbh
lost thicket
fielder bap moira are probably better
Yeah
lost thicket
is moth in the league
💀
willow tartan
Think about how we could've had that
We did have that during the 2020 allstars
i was hard fangirling
for the fun epic memes
north relic
wait we didnt have allstars this year did we
willow tartan
nope
north relic
sadge
vagrant jacinth
Really is
lost thicket
combine two teams to make the best all star 12 ppl team ever
vagrant jacinth
Nasty
lost thicket
S3 SFS/S4 SHD or S4 SHD/S4 DSF are the only real answers tbh
willow tartan
why did you shorten dallas fuel to DSF instead of DAL
next mesa
The 2021 Shanghai dragons + fearless is the best roster of all time there's no roster that you can create to beat it
willow tartan
depends on wym by all time
next mesa
? He's there for Winston rein
If you wanna go overkill you put one of either proper or striker
lost thicket
super better rein but also Void better for SHD
willow tartan
waht
lost thicket
than Fearless
willow tartan
If you wanna go overkill you put one of either proper or striker
but profit/fleta can play any two heroes in the league
it has to happen one day
come on
superhero team up
lost thicket
the synergy between Void is one of the main reason SHD won, Fearless has more carry potential
next mesa
super better rein but also Void better for SHD
What are u talking about
I'm saying put fearless WITH fate void
Actual 1head
willow tartan
the reasons why SHD won
- they were better than every one else at every position
lost thicket
I'm saying put fearless WITH fate void
oh ok that makes more sense
willow tartan
god
next mesa
All time in any meta
willow tartan
im so excited for ow2 beta and owl to start up again
next mesa
Shanghai dragons + fearless striker
willow tartan
if you
willow tartan
if you're talking all time you gotta put some respect on jjonak. man was heads and shoulders ahead of everyone else in season 1
relative dominance is off the charts
next mesa
Best of 7
It is because if you put s1 jjonak right now he wouldn't hang
So
It's not Michael jordan
willow tartan
???
lost thicket
best 12 man team imo is Ans/LIP/Striker/Fleta, Moth/Viol2t/IZaYakI/LFG Void/super/Fate/Choi, in terms of pure peak that team would never fucking lose esp with Crusty/NineK/Moon/Kong coaches
willow tartan
you dont need half those players
12 man rosters are outdated
nowadays you run 3-4 dps and an extra flex support to be safe
lost thicket
you dont need half those players
super is by far the best rein imo, also 12 man just as a max out thing lmao
noble nexus
by far is a massive stretch
you have to have omega bias to look at this last season and think that super was easily better than every other rein
noble nexus
I also think fearless was better
lost thicket
also peak ANS would diff anyone even Lip on widow, same with Viol2t, the entire thing is just super rein 1trick and mainly running Fleta/Striker in terms of dps
willow tartan
If we are talking peaks
lost thicket
you have to have omega bias to look at this last season and think that super was...
all time lmao, but Fearless is really good
lost thicket
hm, who do you think is better coach time, Moon or Crusty
willow tartan
they were all pretty close still
we literally dont know
we know very little of what goes on behind the scenes
or how coaches work
lost thicket
we literally dont know
Yeah, it's hard to judge lmao
willow tartan
each coach does their thing differently
it's not hard to judge it's impossible to judge
north relic
peak viol2t isnt head and shoulders above people like izayaki shu alarm
north relic
in a zen meta yea sure
next mesa
And if we're talking all time no matter the meta
lost thicket
But bap not anymore
Fair
willow tartan
2020 shock players were some of the best in their respective roles but in 2022 the story would not be the same
north relic
in terms of all time fs rankings where would you put viol2t
next mesa
I'd still take izayaki and ljg
willow tartan
you gotta remember in season 3 there was 3 good teams
lost thicket
in terms of all time fs rankings where would you put viol2t
top 3 minimum tbh
willow tartan
and everyone else getting their shit bashed in spare the genji meta craze
north relic
you gotta remember in season 3 there was 3 good teams
3 great teams and like a few decent teams
next mesa
Viol2t is probably #1 or #2
willow tartan
3 great teams and like a few decent teams
yeah except those decent teams got shit on by the 3 top teams
atlanta gatekeepers for a reason
willow tartan
we havent seen viol2t play any significant amount of ana for the past 3 years
lost thicket
a top tier FS player with an ok ana
ok but O R B S
north relic
izayaki alarm viol2t shu jjonak for me
north relic
ok but O R B S
yes viol2t zen is the best of all time but not by that much
lost thicket
Viol2t, Izayaki, Jjonak, Alaram and Shu
if you don't have these in your top 5 you are wrong
north relic
why is jjonak in both your top 5 flex supports currently
we are saying all time
willow tartan
o
next mesa
All time in terms of influence I'm putting jehong ahead of shu
north relic
in terms of influence
vagrant jacinth
I'd maybe jjonak above shu because of longevity
The man's played every single map in owl
willow tartan
but what about kariv
lost thicket
rank top 5 Flex tank
north relic
idk im kind of a shu simp
willow tartan
what
lost thicket
but
next mesa
Kariv
lost thicket
I could honestly see him being anywhere from top 15 to top like 7 all time
willow tartan
nah fuck you
next mesa
He had one good season on valiant
ONE really great game
One bad season
And another atrocious season
HOW IS THAT TOP 10 LMAO
north relic
top 5 is probably fury hanbin void choi maybe space or smth (not in order)
vagrant jacinth
idk im kind of a shu simp
Understandable
lost thicket
top 5 is probably fury hanbin void choi maybe space or smth (not in order)
not Space tbh
north relic
who instead
willow tartan
fuck shu
vagrant jacinth
Space is really good, wdym
willow tartan
how he was in mvp race over some other players will always elude me
north relic
I like him but idk he never seemed THAT great
who would you put over then
lost thicket
Space is really good, wdym
Yeah he's great but idk bout top 5
lost thicket
who would you put over then
gimme a second
north relic
space has been here since s1 and has been above average the entire time
next mesa
top 5 is probably fury hanbin void choi maybe space or smth (not in order)
Fury hanbin void choi is a lock
lost thicket
space has been here since s1 and has been above average the entire time
YEAH I agree I just don't see him as top 5
tho I am also having a hard time picking someone to put him under
he's always been there obvi and above average always but I don't see him at top 5
vagrant jacinth
Who's top 5 then?
lost thicket
Sinatraa but he's too much of a hot take lmao, can't put Decay
but
yeah
idk
Space never screamed greatest ever for me
vagrant jacinth
?
lost thicket
idk
north relic
Sinatraa but he's too much of a hot take lmao, can't put Decay
those are fucking flex dps
lost thicket
gonna go look at some of the matches again
lost thicket
those are fucking flex dps
Zarya
tiny pollen
thats like calling skewed a top 5 ms
north relic
im not gonna rank haksal as a top 10 ms
cedar oasis
This man is stuck in s2
vagrant jacinth
Decay has too much drama surrounding him anyway
lost thicket
This man is stuck in s2
kekw
north relic
?
north relic
did you only look at shock during s2
lost thicket
did you only look at shock during s2
No, I just straight up don't remember that
cedar oasis
That was when Sinatra played tank
lost thicket
I- you know what I mean, I don't remember Haksal playing MS in S2
worn falcon
Super genji > any owl player
north relic
I- you know what I mean, I don't remember Haksal playing MS in S2
he played brig for the titans
cedar oasis
Do all shock fans come from the same clown college
lost thicket
Super genji > any owl player
super genji was so dumb
I actually have no idea how it worked
north relic
it was shock vs bottom teams
lost thicket
obvi
but fucking SUPER as genji?
you'd think it would not work
and it did,
I get some teams are bad
but jesus
north relic
shock would probably win even with a 5v6
lost thicket
super is great as rein and has a solid Orisa, Hog and Monke but I just can't fucking see him playing genji
he can barely play Ball
the imagine of sunji is so fucking ">what" to me
north relic
s3 shock could easily 5v6 s3 boston lol
yea any team with myunbong is garbage
noble nexus
factual
north relic
imagine having myunbong on your team
cedar oasis
True
lost thicket
s3 shock could easily 5v6 s3 boston lol
Yeah it's just the idea of super playing genji and winning is what is so fucking confusing to me, it does not feel like it would ever work even if you had the best team
imagining that is like tryna stick a triangle in a circle shaped hole for me
cedar oasis
lost thicket
the more that I try to think about it the more I just turn into the schizo troll face meme
vagrant jacinth
If the team is shit ofc it'll work
lost thicket
I can't explain it but it's both so funny and so fucking dumb to me, some players I just can't see flexing on to other roles like that so when they do and it works it just
makes me go insane for some reason
cedar oasis
I thought you had to be a regular to send stuff
next mesa
Links
lost thicket
gifs
cedar oasis
nice
vagrant jacinth
Who put you in charge of the weather machine
balmy wolf
i can now stop the snow
make it a snow day
gusty rampart
Don't you support Paris?
north relic
But he’s going to NYXL with Jecse so sadge
:)
willow tartan
summer showdown 2020
hot onyx
summer showdown 2020
That is an insult to all three of us
willow tartan
It's not an insult. Its just pain.
gusty rampart
Jecse Gargoyle to NYXL imo
hot onyx
Clestyn is better than Gargoyle for NYXL
gusty rampart
I don't think so
Gargoyle is a very consistent and pretty good OT
And synergy with Yaki and GNJ
hot onyx
Clestyn is more consistent if you followed him in Contenders
Plus there’s only so many players you can salvage from a team that had a 6-10 record for the season
noble nexus
do you think Gargoyle, GNJ and Yaki were even remotely at fault for that record tho?
hot onyx
No I think it was a mismatch of players and play styles
There’s only so much blame you can place on BQB OGE and Slime
next mesa
I still don't know if u want half of the roster that went like 4-12
north relic
thinking about it, jecse would only have to play lucio for nyxl right
next mesa
Yeah honestly
north relic
myunbong or gnj should be turned into a brig player
earnest leaf
Yaki fucks
GNJ is like a solid A tier FS
and gargoyle is a nasty sig with a decent dva
gusty rampart
There’s only so much blame you can place on BQB OGE and Slime
Not on BQB?
BQB was a fucking animal
earnest leaf
I think a combo of oge booming, slime on his worst hero and coaching being weird fucked over florida
And when your main tank in winston and ball comps is mental boomed and throwing, it makes the game 100x harder
Which can just have a dominoe effect and fuck over the rest of the individual performances
gusty rampart
Sadly it fucked over BQB
north relic
GNJ is like a solid A tier FS
gnj is a low a high b for me
earnest leaf
High B is as low as I would go for him
But I think he's somewhere around mid A or so
north relic
who else would you put mid A
north relic
are you talking about myunbong or gnj
earnest leaf
nah I think he was surrounded by people more so closer to him in skill, so he didn't look far ahead like in s3
myunbong has a solid ana, but rest of his heroes are a bit lower
north relic
He was bottom 10 last szn
bottom 10 isnt even bad anymore when top 10 is fielder shu iris mmonk farway izayaki viol2t twilight alarm gnj
fs is so stacked
i didnt even include jjonak or creative
noble nexus
because creative is below myunb0ng
tawdry hamlet
I know we haven't seen a lot of farway but rating him above gnj on what we have seen is eh to me idk
But then again on cc he was crazy
So probably a play time issue
twilit oriole
bottom 10 isnt even bad anymore when top 10 is fielder shu iris mmonk farway iza...
Hope that isn’t in order
next mesa
Creative has a better zen than bong
north relic
Hope that isn’t in order
next mesa
Jjonak is very pog you guys will see
His mechanics still better than everyone in the league no kappa
If you watch his ana vod and then twilight ana vod
noble nexus
holy fuck Levy is such a loser
next mesa
I just use my eyes
north relic
levy explaining quantum physics to show that jjonak is still good
noble nexus
UHM ACTUALLY IF YOU COMPARE THE VODS OF THE SPECIFIIC SHOTS OF THE ANA PLAYUE THEN YOU WOULD SEE JJONAK HIT MORE THAN TWILIGHT AISDJUISDHASUIDHN
just shut up and admit that roolf >>>>>>>
pelase
🙄
next mesa
Lel
Actually I counted each shot and jjonak actually lands 1.3% more sleeps at s 0.32 higher rate soooo better player
noble nexus
ratio
earnest leaf
Can't wait to watch seoul's backline get gapped any time they play a good team
last nimbus
shu skewed / shu fa is better support line than jjonak creative
noble nexus
shu skeweed funnyastra is a top 1-2 support line so yeah no shit
jjonak creative vindaim isn't bad tho
earnest leaf
I think outside of izayaki/ljg it's hard to rate the new backlines before 5v5 starts
hot onyx
Anamo SirMajed goated
north relic
I think outside of izayaki/ljg it's hard to rate the new backlines before 5v5 st...
its shu fastro
its going to be good
noble nexus
I love my fellow Los Angeles Gladiators fans
you're so handsome when you're openly supporting LAG
twilit oriole
Twilight chr0n0g
hot onyx
Mayhem has a NYXL veteran with two titles and the second most dominant flex support in NA Contenders, there’s no way they fail this year!
noble nexus
wasn't SirMajed EU?
north relic
Mayhem has a NYXL veteran with two titles and the second most dominant flex supp...
they have someone
hot onyx
I swear Majed is Saudi/European and played in NA Contenders for Bobby Wasabi iirc
balmy wolf
most top team backlines are better then jjonak creative
hot onyx
they have someone
Not just someone, they have main tank extraordinaire Some “not a real country tai” One
noble nexus
I swear Majed is Saudi/European and played in NA Contenders for Bobby Wasabi iir...
idfk I don't watch contenders
kilo my favourite support player
hot onyx
Ah yes my favourite main support Kilo on the San Francisco Shock
north relic
i thought kilo was their off tank?
young fractalBOT
You joined on Dec 30, 2021
balmy wolf
no
north relic
No Proper is their hitscan
but ow2 is a double hitscan meta
balmy wolf
kilo is hard hitscan
hot onyx
but ow2 is a double hitscan meta
That’s where Viol2t comes in for Shock to run Kilo-Finn
balmy wolf
viol2t finn > jjonak creative
north relic
That’s where Viol2t comes in for Shock to run Kilo-Finn
oh so super as tank viol2t proper for double hitscan and kilo-finn as the backline
might be better than shanghai ngl
hot onyx
Might be is an understatement
hot onyx
FunnyAstro Skewed*
north relic
for the meta to be like brig mercy
balmy wolf
if shock get a ms they could do well
north relic
and unnamed new hero broken main support
balmy wolf
and glads will do well too
hot onyx
Can’t wait for FDGod to return to Shock
balmy wolf
fdgod is great
north relic
fdgod kilo could slap in brig mercy
balmy wolf
idk why people hated on him
hot onyx
Because he wasn’t a part of the precious two time champion squad
hot onyx
And Shock fans were incapable of sending death threats to Viol2t or Striker when they made mistakes
Always Nero and FDGod
earnest leaf
shock mental go boom
also crusty crack pipe
I never really saw nero hate past the first stage
hot onyx
Double standards smh
balmy wolf
i feel like metas in ow2 will have more variety
earnest leaf
Most of what I saw were people saying he was pretty good
hot onyx
I only really saw Nero receive praise toward the latter end of CC and Playoffs
earnest leaf
when JJ started and his echo was shown was when I saw the hate drop off
hot onyx
Eh I saw more hate come back after they were 3-0’d by Reign
noble nexus
the fans needed a scapegoat for the former best team in the world being bad
hot onyx
That’s what happens when the fan base of a team with 3 stage titles and 2 season titles loses
earnest leaf
The biggest scape goats were the back line besides twilight from what I saw
earnest leaf
I remember saying that no individual player was fucking up, always said as a team they just didn't work as well as they could
hot onyx
Which is essentially true
earnest leaf
crusty did a little bit of trolling
vagrant jacinth
I saw a lot of Nero hate, people were ripping into him
north relic
the fans needed a scapegoat for the former best team in the world being bad
they werent even bad
tawdry hamlet
I think shock looked like a worse Atlanta where as Dallas looked like a worse Shanghai if that makes any sense
north relic
shock v cdh in CC finals how close is it
tawdry hamlet
Like Dallas and Shanghai were coordinated af where as shock or Atlanta you could see lots of mistakes made up for by the mechanical skill of the players
balmy wolf
no i dont want one cause you cant make obe
tawdry hamlet
Like gator charging off the map and twilight teleport 💀
Idk people can say shock had the best regular season record in s4 but like, they never looked coordinated once while having that record imo lmao
It looked like they just barely out mechanic the other team a lot of times like the Dallas game
Like Houston for example, they looked awful but skilled enough to win games
north relic
Idk people can say shock had the best regular season record in s4 but like, they...
gator charge wasnt a mistake, it was a message
earnest leaf
shock also faced the winner 2/3 of the times they were in play-ins
shock and seoul both got cucked that way
seoul faced shd twice, shock faced dallas and glads
It's why I think play-ins are a little goofy
one team could have to face winner of toronto boston to make hawaii
while like glads had to face the winner of shock vs dallas
balmy wolf
justice vs outlaws was a great match
north relic
It's why I think play-ins are a little goofy
yea, but is there a better format
its hard to think of one for me
tropic herald
It's why I think play-ins are a little goofy
skill diff
next mesa
the last spot third and fourth place battle it out
earnest leaf
I suppose double elim bracket would be better at challenging the teams, but it would take way longer
tropic herald
double elim for play ins?
earnest leaf
to go to hawaii
tropic herald
that would be like way too long for sure
play in weekends were already pretty long since it was 4 days
tawdry hamlet
I just think the problem with it is, if they get to face the loser instead of the winner, then they lose against the winner the next match so what's the point
Like if shock didn't have to face Dallas and glads and instead got to play against like Chengdu or something they'd still lose to Dallas or glads next game
north relic
top 2 teams auto qualify
But then Seoul can’t choke tourney qualifiers
plush grail
Fleta lucio
hot onyx
I’d be honoured to play with N2X and Hugo too
vagrant jacinth
Yo, Mr x's dog plays ow too??
hollow bough
there's no way that's a real lobby
obviously not
it was a bunch of smurfs in a 5 stack for my qp game
wispy yacht
i would really love to play against 4 owl players
willow tartan
theyre just sandbagging
cedar oasis
Like they did in s1
vagrant cargo
Idk people can say shock had the best regular season record in s4 but like, they...
they had a few games tbf
last nimbus
this off-season was kinda dissapointing tbh
gusty rampart
What did you expect?
worn falcon
Exist
hot onyx
this off-season was kinda dissapointing tbh
It was disappointing for me but seeing moves like Pelican-Iris to Houston and Defiant deciding they want to win this season has been pretty fun
north relic
idk man this offseason has been pretty good idk what you are talking about
hot onyx
JJonak Seoul
north relic
i take jjonak for myunbong gnj everyday
worn falcon
Not with Tobi