esports-discussion

[north relic]

im now inspired to watch SS finals

[willow tartan]

just to see the pain and misery of the fusion players again?

sans has nightmares over that

[plush grail]

eqo genji clutch yikes

imagine doing that and then getting dropped

tbh the play itself is not that good

[cedar oasis]

eqo fell of hard

[plush grail]

but the fact that he did it with so much on his shoulders

makes it top tier

[north relic]

the circumstance makes it 10x better

[plush grail]

if it was just a regular season match against some random team it would already be long forgotten

[willow tartan]

now if only they had won that series

[north relic]

the world would be very different

luigi's team has 0 titles and sans has 1

[willow tartan]

yeah, a universe where fusion has a title

[gusty rampart]

I want to go the universe where NYXL should've been the champions

Because they should've

They just trolled a lil

[cedar oasis]

ha no

only in s1

[gusty rampart]

That's what I mean

Idot

[cedar oasis]

nah

they floped

fusion beat their ass

[gusty rampart]

You're now a Seoul fan?

Bandwagon much?

[cedar oasis]

its so i dont get discriminated against for bieng a paris fan

you nerd

[gusty rampart]

Bandwagoning gets even less respect

[cedar oasis]

its not bandwagoning

i only picked seoul because i also like jjonack

you nerd

[north relic]

what photoshop does to a man

[gusty rampart]

It's JJoNak 🤨

[north relic]

yea its jjOnAK

[cedar oasis]

good for you

[north relic]

feels weird seeing small window

[last nimbus]

what happened to his left eye

or is that just lighting

[cedar oasis]

playing on 200 ping does that to a guy

[noble nexus]

It’s lighting

The Dallas pictures all have weird lighting to me

[north relic]

yea

[cedar oasis]

nah

why does he look mean

he looks friendly in paris

[north relic]

did you read my title

what photoshop does to a man

also his left eye might just be him

when i have a photo taken of me sometimes one of my eyes seems half closed

[cedar oasis]

no

its his chin

what happened to it

[north relic]

his paris chin looks photoshopped

so smooth

[cedar oasis]

yea

whered the chin come from?

[cedar oasis]

yo

fielder made out of plastic?

[north relic]

just like luigi's gf

[cedar oasis]

luigis gf is his right hand

[north relic]

How do you know he isn’t a lefty?

[cedar oasis]

he needs one hand for the magnifying glass

[next mesa]

how the fuck is kariv top 10

what was platchat's list

[next mesa]

how is kariv top 10 but jehong not

they exaggerate viol2t's ana struggles

[north relic]

did you listen to the disclaimer before the rankings

"due to jehong being a bit controversial we will not be ranking him (and sinatraa i think)"

[next mesa]

i did not

i skipped straight through

i mean thats an interesting decision

[tropic herald]

i think its fair

[next mesa]

yeah i suppose

but how is kariv top 10

he had 1 pretty good season and 2 really bad seasons

with one of them being atrocious

[north relic]

i just realized they put viol2t #1

._.

i would put izayaki above tbh

[tiny pollen]

what did jehong do

aside from falling off

[north relic]

misogynistic

[next mesa]

hm maybe being the consensual goat and revolutionized the entire role while still putting on solid performances in s2 despite being like 40 years old

i do recognize the falling off argument

[tiny pollen]

i was talking about why he was not ranked

and added falling off as a joke

[next mesa]

i seeee

he got really drunk

said bad things about women

well to this streamer that he was streaming with

the streamer came out and said something like tbh idk what the big deal is but he did get suspended and stuff it was bad

[tiny pollen]

ic

[next mesa]

but now hes been like back on geng for a while now does content for their youtube

so idk whats going on

[hot onyx]

Correction, they are more like ptsd flashbacks

[north relic]

You’re a Seoul fan?

Name every Seoul player that ever touched the team

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/scl9pv/blizzard_on_the_lack_of_legendary_skins_this_lny/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Hopium + copium moment

[next mesa]

Ayt

Fleta

Miro

Zunba

Jehong

Tobi

Munchkin

Gido

Who else

Gambler

Slime

Esca technically

Xepher

Weeked

Wekeed*

Fits profit

Gesture marvel

Toyou michelle

That Genji one trick that couldn't play genji

I forgot damn

Illicit

Yeah that's the name

Bunny

Kuki i forgot coach or player

[next mesa]

Fissure of course

And jecse

Oh yeah highly was here too

And bdosin

Stalker

Jjonak smurf

Sbb

Anamo

Vindaim

Who else

[balmy wolf]

my mother

[hot onyx]

Creative is pretty forgettable dw

[next mesa]

shit

gg

im fake fan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJFCLLp21Yw is it just me or does this look awful to play & watch

[balmy wolf]

it does

[earnest leaf]

yea because it's two teams who have never played with eachother on a mode not built for this game with changes that aren't fully finished

It's like trying to drive a car with no steering wheel and brakes, no shit it doesn't work at all

[next mesa]

its not too hard to see that the core idea is kinda trash

honestly no matter what balances they do

6 was the number man

[earnest leaf]

What i'm saying is

These scrims don't mean anything for 5v5

[next mesa]

it doesn't

never say it did

im just remarking that

[earnest leaf]

Then why act as if it's meaningful

[next mesa]

5v5 gameplay looks pretty dog

[earnest leaf]

It's a mid team and shit team scrimming on ping with comps and balance changes no one has any idea about

[next mesa]

because thats what 5v5 looks like

[earnest leaf]

no you baboon

[next mesa]

not the point

[earnest leaf]

I would bet $100 5v5 won't look like those scrims

We are still missing numerous re-works and balance changes

[next mesa]

never said anything about how this is gonna reflect on their owl performances

just that 5v5 in itself looks shit

[earnest leaf]

ow2 is also on a new engine so there's that still missing, also new heroes

I'm saying judging 5v5 off this is braindead

[next mesa]

whats the new engine gonna change

btw

new skin models

gg

[earnest leaf]

iirc new engine can help with base shit, better performance and allow for new and different mechanics to be added

[next mesa]

i hope they optimize it

so that my friends can play on their potato laptops

[earnest leaf]

In the end literally all of us are clueless

And we're looking at 5v5 through the lens of the current game and balance

It's going to function differently

[next mesa]

hope so, because it looks dogshit right now

[earnest leaf]

That isn't even a blizzard official 5v5 version

that's coaches throwing shit together in a workshop mode

[next mesa]

single tank sounds awful, looks awful, no matter what kind of other new abilities you get

that's probably more accurate to how the game is going to look then the 5v5 demo we got months ago

[earnest leaf]

Doubtful

Neither are really good indicators

Because it's been months since that showcase and this workshop mode means fuck all

[next mesa]

the "alpha" that we got during the finals looked bad too

sad company

hopefully microsoft saves

[earnest leaf]

God this fucking doomer shit is so fucking annoying

[next mesa]

nah

just realistic

srry

[earnest leaf]

Everyone is clueless and has conclusions on the game before any of us know anything reasonable

I fucking hate 5v5 as much as you

But I can be reasonable enough to wait out and see what they do

[next mesa]

and i cant because we have waited

for 2 years

and we saw what they did

lol

[earnest leaf]

Yes dogshit management hemorrhaged the development

That dogshit management is going to be leaving soon

[next mesa]

I mean

in 2023

[sullen berry]

[hot onyx]

Which one is the mid team?

[earnest leaf]

boston

[hot onyx]

Agree, was tasty

[sullen berry]

But then how am I going to fit Levy in my qp squad of Flameknight, Cuyo, Sans and Luigi?

[hot onyx]

Idk man, Someone looks a lot better than Marve1

[sullen berry]

Ugh guess Levy is banned from grouping up with us in ow2

Sad times

[hot onyx]

Oh no, now we’ll be split between 3 regions instead of 4

[next mesa]

oh noooo i am so devastated man

;-;

[sullen berry]

Get ping diffed

Aug changing his emojis man

[hot onyx]

Wait who would play tank

I forgot tank is going to be unfun and that I’m becoming a tracer otp

[sullen berry]

Me

On 330 ping

[balmy wolf]

tracer otping is fun

thats how you rank up

just tracer

[sullen berry]

!!whotodamage

[young fractal]

Reaper

[hot onyx]

Seems legit

Brb gonna go rank up as the 5th easiest character in the game

[sullen berry]

I rewatched the magnificent reverse sweep from Dragon's POV for May Melee, Marve1 had stand1 pegged down while fearless stepped in to show dragons were dead set on their redemption arc

It's also worth looking at when other players got subbed too

[next mesa]

marve1's sig is like actually good

he's the only tank that can play both roles at a somewhat owl level

[balmy wolf]

seems him being actually flexible secured his spot for next season

[tawdry hamlet]

Crong and guxue are the greatest one trick tanks in history 😤 but then again gesture one tricking hog into a 4 year career is pretty epic too

Fr tho what has guxue ever done off of Winston

Literally never stood out and people still hold onto hopium from s2

[balmy wolf]

spark were never the same after s2, didnt help they never went for more chinese talent instead went with 5 kr + guxue

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean the team fall off sure, but guxue is literally just worse mag

Spark as a whole are tragic, they held onto a ton of good talent but then never built a completed roster and just had really good pieces with no actual goal

I think I'm gonna watch some funny owl vods

Starting with
https://youtu.be/oH_UPbAoSEg

S4 opening weekend was peak overwatch

[sullen berry]

Every opening weekend predictions are so fun

And now that I don't really care that NZ is excluded from rewards for participating why not set up a Pickems team this year?

We're just waiting on the schedule and then watch me clap you all this year

[deft glacier]

#overwatch

[balmy wolf]

<@&397922982632226816>

ty

[vagrant jacinth]

Didn't think ow content could dry up even more

Opening weekend always bangs

[plush grail]

opening weekends are always chaos

[north relic]

When did we get the gf skin last year

[last nimbus]

late february

[gusty rampart]

Right before OWL

[hot onyx]

Hopium increased since Cr1tikal made this tutorial

[balmy wolf]

fusion will still choke map 5

[vagrant jacinth]

It's a given

[cedar oasis]

Fusion fans must be so sad

[balmy wolf]

yeah

ew a seoul fan that isnt cool

[cedar oasis]

Your a shock fan

You cant say anything

Shock fans are actually clowns

[balmy wolf]

You're

im no clown

:(

[cedar oasis]

All my homies think shock fans are clowns

[balmy wolf]

they think

are they correct tho?

no

they arent

[cedar oasis]

They are

[balmy wolf]

im the only non clown

[cedar oasis]

So you admit all other shock fans are clowns

I knew it

[balmy wolf]

yes

i started watching shock s4

[cedar oasis]

That's even worse

[balmy wolf]

how

i dobt understad

[cedar oasis]

Dont

[balmy wolf]

yeah

I don't understand

[cedar oasis]

You should have seen shock fans in season 3 and 2

[noble nexus]

The only reason you’re not openly supporting paris rn is cuz you think if you support a less cringe team you’ll get regular

So you decided to support Seoul instead

Please make it make sense

[next mesa]

Supporting Seoul = chad

[noble nexus]

It’s crazy how wrong you are

Half of your teams fan base sucks off Jjonak the other half thinks profits can 2v6 the entire universe

[next mesa]

I mean

It's true

[noble nexus]

It’s fucking clapped

That’s what it is

Absolutely clapped

[cedar oasis]

Its true

We have chad smurf

The god profit

Jjonack and his comeback

[noble nexus]

You can’t even spell the players name’s correctly

[cedar oasis]

Fuck off

[noble nexus]

Prodit

Jjonack

[cedar oasis]

I cant spell in general

So beat that

Nerd

[noble nexus]

Ah yes my favourite MT Sfurm

[cedar oasis]

I never went that far

Your just mad your team bad

[noble nexus]

You’re*

[cedar oasis]

Your team bad

And u smel

[noble nexus]

Smell*

[cedar oasis]

And your midget

[hot onyx]

Can confirm i am a homie and I think Shock fans are clowns

[next mesa]

🙏 🙏

[noble nexus]

I was a shock fan once 😬

Still am honestly but I’d be berated for being a shock fan

But I just like the Cali teams

[hot onyx]

Ah yes my favourite California teams

San Francisco Los Angeles and Beijing

[noble nexus]

Please don’t bring the other one up it still hurts me

S3 Valiant was the shit honestly

S3 Valiant and S3 Mayhem 😩😩😩😩

[north relic]

S3 val was kinda like s4 paris

[hot onyx]

Yaki vs Shax tracer was on another level

[noble nexus]

Carried by the dps line and an above average FS?

Facts honestly

[hot onyx]

When there was competition ofc

Remember when people believed McGravy Dreamer Rain Lastro was capable of beating Fury Sado Fastro Alarm?

[plush grail]

never

also rain

[noble nexus]

No one cares Sans

[plush grail]

what happened to him

[hot onyx]

Good times

[noble nexus]

Gone

Sans try not to insert your team into the conversation challenge (impossible)

[north relic]

Tell that to Luigi

[hot onyx]

Who cares Paris news when???

[noble nexus]

Luigi try not to insert your team into the conversation challenge (impossible)

[plush grail]

[noble nexus]

Paris is gonna pick up another “owl veteran” to ride the bench

[hot onyx]

News about a roster that already has every player and coaching slot filled when???

[north relic]

Paris pick up hitscan extraordinaire linkzr

[noble nexus]

Nyxl news when?

[north relic]

Yes

[plush grail]

ytes

pick up linkzr

because linkzr > glister

[noble nexus]

You’re stupid

[plush grail]

im joking

linkzr is shit and washed

[north relic]

Linkzr is a widow 1v1 champion

Glister isn’t

[noble nexus]

Linkzr throughout his career had one good game every 2 weeks

[hot onyx]

We know you’re joking but you’re still stupid

[north relic]

Linkzr>glister

[plush grail]

2 months*

[noble nexus]

2 seasons*

[plush grail]

never*

[hot onyx]

One good game*

[plush grail]

im pretty sure linkzr had the biggest fall from grace

[noble nexus]

Good game*

[plush grail]

him and muma share that spot

from considered top tier

to benched by a fdps and on the 2021 budget titans

[noble nexus]

Paris had the biggest fall from grace tbh

[north relic]

Have you considered the entirety of s1 Seoul

[noble nexus]

From winning a tourney to an EU roster

[north relic]

Biggest L imaginable

[plush grail]

im talking about players dumbass, not roster changes

[noble nexus]

Also unironically Miro fell off the hardest

[north relic]

Do you guys think charge or paris wins against each other

In SS ofc

[noble nexus]

Paris wins tbh

[hot onyx]

Probably Paris

[plush grail]

charge is legit

[noble nexus]

didn’t disagree with me

[plush grail]

dumpster tier

[noble nexus]

Talking about S3 smoothbrained chimp

[north relic]

We are talking about 2020 genji meta

[hot onyx]

Charge kind of had it easy in a meta vs NYXL coached by IMT and Dragons with a choice of Stand1 or Fearless orisa

[north relic]

When they both won a tourney

[plush grail]

2020 paris was also way better

charge legit just got lucky with meta

once the meta shifted

[north relic]

And paris didn’t

[plush grail]

they became dogshit again

[noble nexus]

So did Paris?

[north relic]

Charge was consistently #2 apac other than playoffs

[hot onyx]

Paris had to face the one team that knew how exactly how to counter them and still won

[noble nexus]

Charge had a really good double shield that season

[hot onyx]

Definitely Paris wins that

[plush grail]

but tbh double shield is ass meta

[noble nexus]

You’re an ass

Bitch

[north relic]

You’re an ass meta

[plush grail]

dont lie

[hot onyx]

Double shield lucio moira was ass

[plush grail]

do u legit enjoy watching double shield

[noble nexus]

No

[hot onyx]

Double shield genji was hella fun to watch

[north relic]

I enjoy playing double shield

[noble nexus]

You’re still an ass tho

Double shield genji was boring

[plush grail]

any genji meta is great

[noble nexus]

Just farm nano use the broken Mickey Mouse ult combo and repeat

[plush grail]

but its cool

[north relic]

I was watching SS yesterday and I am seeing sparkle getting spammed with every ability from both paris and fusion and somehow get two kills

[hot onyx]

Yeah but I enjoyed genji double shield because there was no nano blade

[noble nexus]

The most fun team to watch in during genji meta was shock

Cuz they forced tracer

[hot onyx]

And it actually took more brainpower to set up kills than “funny ult combo”

[noble nexus]

Like real men

[plush grail]

and lost

because of it

[north relic]

It was funny halt combo

[hot onyx]

^^

[noble nexus]

Played an objectively worse comp and lost

Surprising

[plush grail]

they had no genji player

then picked up taiyo

[north relic]

They had super

[plush grail]

and genji never became meta again

[noble nexus]

They had rascal

[hot onyx]

Honestly if they did have a genji player at the time

[plush grail]

did they ever let rascal play genji

[noble nexus]

Yeah

[north relic]

They did

[noble nexus]

For one map or so

[hot onyx]

Architect over peak EQO and Sp9rk1e

Still loses

[north relic]

Haksal over peak everyone

[hot onyx]

Overrated

Shadowburn

Goated

[noble nexus]

It doesn’t matter if he’s a little worse than those two tho tbh

[plush grail]

eqo benched shadowboy

[noble nexus]

No one cares

[plush grail]

BUT IGNORE THESE LOSERS

[hot onyx]

Exactly

[plush grail]

NAGA GENJI

BODIES

ANYONE

[hot onyx]

That proves how good EQO is

[north relic]

I can bench shadowboy

[noble nexus]

Kevster better + ratio

[hot onyx]

False

[plush grail]

god

i still fucking hate kevster

so overhyped

[north relic]

Kevster tracer one trick + ratio

[plush grail]

but barely does shit

[north relic]

Literally the one good EU player and Luigi hates them

[noble nexus]

Onigod coming into season 3 and 4

[plush grail]

onigod was never overhyped

[noble nexus]

He was

[plush grail]

prove it

[noble nexus]

Onigod kinda shit

[hot onyx]

No he was treated like the dogshit he is

[noble nexus]

Bet

[hot onyx]

Never overhyped

[noble nexus]

He’s beyond dogshit

Treating him like dogshit is overhype

[plush grail]

i am a full time paris simp and i have never seen anyone say ''onigod is top tier''

except for me

but that's because he's my favorite player

[north relic]

Onigod is top tier

Imagine lying 🙄

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/ParisEternal/status/1443956368440840210?s=20

Paris Eternal (@ParisEternal)

Thank you @Onigod for all the heads you clicked, the troll turrets you placed, and the Widow snipes. We wish you the very best with whatever comes next in your career.

Likes

1132

Twitter · Oct 1, 2021, 3:10 PM

[north relic]

Onigod was so close to clutching paris’ final map of the season

[plush grail]

fusion lost chipsa

[plush grail]

u lost ur fusion mug

kinda tempted to buy a paris mug

[next mesa]

taiyo was never meant for genji

he was literally known for hitscan

[random magnet]

they sell mugs for OW teams?

[plush grail]

ye

[random magnet]

yoo

[next mesa]

sauce the seoul mug

[hot onyx]

I am going to glue my mug back to spite you

[vagrant jacinth]

Yo do they?

[plush grail]

american fanatics site

https://www.fanatics.com/overwatch-league/overwatch-league-gear/o-10708945+t-09030102+z-965-3409454812

[vagrant jacinth]

Ahh, yeah

[plush grail]

wait wtf

its all gone

they used to have so much more

[next mesa]

also how would you guys rank all the rookies coming in dps

[plush grail]

https://www.fanatics.com/?query=overwatch league&_ref=p-TLP:m-SEARCH

[next mesa]

copypaset from r/cow

Pineapple, AlphaYi, Innovation, Becky, MN3, Zest, Stalk3r, Victoria, Venom, Guriyo, Mer1t, Backbone, Patiphan, Hydron, Proper, Kilo, S9mm, Finale, Seicoe

[north relic]

Proper s rest irrelevant

[vagrant jacinth]

Yeah, everything was reduced to clear

[hot onyx]

Where is Skairippa?

[next mesa]

support

[plush grail]

average fusion fan merch

[vagrant jacinth]

Lmao

[random magnet]

sheesh

[hot onyx]

Makes sense since Fusion fans are handsome and more likely to breed an offspring

[plush grail]

ahh yes chipsa is so hot

[next mesa]

S tier: Proper, Apr1ta, MN3

A tier: Mer1t, Stalk3r, AlphaYi, Pineapple, Innovation, Kilo

B tier: S9mm, Victoria, Hydron, Venom, Becky, Zest

C tier: Finale, Backbone, Seicoe, Patiphan, Guriyo, Skairipa

[neat ivy]

Anyone who watches overwatch league is a nerd

[next mesa]

LMAO

actually good comeback

pog

[north relic]

How is it almost gone

Oh what’s your baby wearing

[hot onyx]

Where is Skairippa?

[north relic]

He changed his name

[next mesa]

ohh that kid from

bh

C tier

[hot onyx]

Yeah

And Admiral

[next mesa]

Admiral is

[hot onyx]

And Pr🤮v1de

[next mesa]

a main support

bro

dps only

doofus

[hot onyx]

Ohhhh

You could’ve specified

[plush grail]

whats wrong with provide

[hot onyx]

He took my lunch money

[next mesa]

honestly my list is based

perfect

no flaws

(come on guys disagree w me)

[north relic]

Proper doesn’t belong in S

[plush grail]

dont care

not related to paris

[hot onyx]

Zest one higher Hydron one lower

[next mesa]

yikes i forgot u guys are kinda uncultured

fair

i put Venom in B because

we know he's only there as a tracer 1 trick and we know how nasty he is at tracer

honestly i could put him at A

just because like he's gonna fill his role really well

[hot onyx]

Venom could be A

[north relic]

You could put him at C for being a one trick

[next mesa]

but overall player wise definitely doesnt compare to the rest of A

no but he's a one trick that's actually useful

[hot onyx]

Stalk3r hasn’t shown much potential currently since last two seasons of contenders his team has either been bottom tier or failed to qualify

[next mesa]

yeah honestly im a seoul fanboy but can def see him at B

[hot onyx]

How the fuck are you gonna let JNGK be better than you?

[next mesa]

no he didnt play at all

dont kno wwhat happened

he disappeared off of contenders for like 6 months

but like his gauntlet performance and stuff in 2020 was very very good

[hot onyx]

Also is there any footage of Alphayi on a non tracer character?

[next mesa]

i am kind of worried that

my theory is

he was kinda promised that hes gonna get on the main team

midway contenders

but then its like then why did u stop playing contenders

[next mesa]

lol i see him on echo more than tracer

honestly Alphayi a lot of people put him S

until him and pineapple stop choking the finals neither of htem are gonna be S

honestly a bit sad that kaylee didnt get another chance

he transitioned to like top 2 echo in contenders china

[cedar oasis]

Even the s tier people choke

Like carpe

And alarm

[hot onyx]

Just screenshotting that statement of you calling Carpe S tier

[north relic]

Carpe A

[noble nexus]

Ehhh

[cedar oasis]

Wasent he s?

[noble nexus]

Low A

[north relic]

S3 he was S

[hot onyx]

He was S in season 3

Season 4 he was like top 10

Better than Decay but not by too much

[north relic]

In the beginning of the season carpe looked great

[hot onyx]

Overlapped by like Lip Birdring Leave Kai and maybe Glister

Possibly Fits

Don’t tell Levy I said that though

[cedar oasis]

Man it must suck being a fusion fan huh

[next mesa]

S3 he was S

[next mesa]

I honestly wouldnt put glister

and Kai maybe

[cedar oasis]

Tbh s3 was like a fever dream for me

[next mesa]

id put Ans fits for sure

but thats about it

[hot onyx]

The only UPgrade Fusion has made this season is secondary hitscan and main tank

[next mesa]

ans fits lip birdring leave

maybe kai

[north relic]

They don’t have a mt

[cedar oasis]

How did mano fall off that hard tho

[next mesa]

no clue

honestly i thought he looked decent in s3

[cedar oasis]

We need a list of main tanks that have fallen off hard

[next mesa]

Miro S tier

Gesture

Mano

that's it

great ones that fell off

maybe bumper lol but idk

[cedar oasis]

Roar

Wasent he the shit in contenders

Also Janus

[north relic]

Fissure but it’s because he fell out of the world

Guxue maybe?

[cedar oasis]

Is fate good?

[hot onyx]

They could sign Itsal or Belosrea and they would still be an upgrade over Mano

[north relic]

Bottom 5 mt currently

[cedar oasis]

But did he fall off

I swear he was good once

[north relic]

Yea

He won grand finals this year

Garbage player though didn’t even get role star smh

[noble nexus]

Fate was never good

Valiant were dogshit when he was on that team and S3 Mayhem sucked

[next mesa]

yeah dude

s4 dragons is one of the worst teams in owl history

[noble nexus]

Real

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/BrenCasts/status/1486383754037899278

Brennon Hook (@BrenCasts)

Josh & I currently do not have an agreement for 2022 with the Overwatch League, marking the end of our four years as broadcast talent for OWL. We wish the league and our colleagues the best of luck for OW2.

Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 5:01 PM

https://twitter.com/SideshowGaming/status/1486383356396949511

Josh Wilkinson (@SideshowGaming)

Bren & I currently do not have an agreement for 2022 with Overwatch League, marking the end of our four years as broadcast talent. We wish the league and our colleagues the best of luck for OW2.

Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 4:59 PM

copium league

League is dead

[young fractal]

Reminder for @tropic herald: don’t forget this thing
Set <t:1642957813:R>

[north relic]

L

[cedar oasis]

L

[plush grail]

fuck off

they're letting sideshow and bren go??

god this is sad

[hot onyx]

fuck off no

[vagrant jacinth]

Bro what the fuck

[next mesa]

what the fuck is this shit

gg

league's over

its over

[hot onyx]

literally the best and most entertaining and watchable talent in the league

who tf replaces them??

[plush grail]

i like some of the casters/talent like reinforce and mr x

but the rest is kinda boring

[inner island]

It does suck but at the same time it might be nice seeing some new casters come up and get a chance in owl.

[hot onyx]

ehhhh

[plush grail]

true but it depends on who we get

[hot onyx]

the best options would be Legday and Lemonkiwi

[worn falcon]

lemonkiwi and legday?

[plush grail]

sideshow bren were the least serious casters and were mostly just banter

who will cast the toilet bowl or mention the hog and ball torture meta

[hot onyx]

small chance of Pixie?

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/Avast_o/status/1486384164647624710?s=20

Avast (@Avast_o)

@SideshowGaming Because you two are starting Plat Chat League with me and BPL right

Likes

263

Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 5:02 PM

[vagrant jacinth]

Bren and sideshow were so fucking good

[fallen turret]

Custa and Uber are the only good ones left

[next mesa]

unironically good idea

[plush grail]

mr x is cool too

[next mesa]

too bad blizzard killed all 3rd party 🥴

[fallen turret]

And jaws ig

[plush grail]

i hope sideshow is still gonna do co-streams

[hot onyx]

can't wait for the bren and josh co-streams to get more views than the actual OWL streams

[worn falcon]

not this anymore https://gfycat.com/imaginarywateryguanaco

[next mesa]

that'd be great

[worn falcon]

[plush grail]

this might be a slight w

[next mesa]

I love their val costreams

[plush grail]

bren and sideshow stream with no censorship

they can say whatever the fuck they want now

[hot onyx]

true true

no unbiased moderation system

[cedar oasis]

Owl views go down 50 percent

[worn falcon]

valorant views go up 50 percent

[hot onyx]

they can shit talk London as much as humanly possible without losing a job

W

[plush grail]

this is gonna be fun

tbh me and sans could be a good caster duo

[cedar oasis]

Cant wait for them to shittalk the new caster while their casting

[plush grail]

they wouldn't do that

but players are fair game

[willow tartan]

I'm heartbroken.

[vagrant jacinth]

Sideshows followed saying he'll still be around plat chat and co-streams

[hot onyx]

time to further boycott blizzard

[plush grail]

W

[willow tartan]

Spencer needs to come in here and veto the decision + fire whoever approved it

[hot onyx]

and when they aren't co-streaming i'll tune in to kenobis co-stream so owl don't profit from a lack of brenshow

[plush grail]

imagine firing the 2 guys who run plat chat

its almost like they want owl to fail

[willow tartan]

sabotage

puts on tin foil hat

[hot onyx]

and keeping Doa-ZP

[willow tartan]

conspiracy theory time

[hot onyx]

replace Doa-ZP with Legday Lemon, make Jaws and Vikki half time talent instead of casters and bring back Achillios/Wolf and AVRL/Pixie duos

there, best business deal of all time

[plush grail]

reinforce / mr x

[vagrant jacinth]

I can't believe this

[plush grail]

they have to call up sideshow brenn whenever a toilet bowl game is gonna happen

[vagrant jacinth]

Toilet bowl special guests yes pls

https://twitter.com/sean_mmills/status/1486390440916144134?t=N47nkn3sDn2T_R72MYPzZg&s=19

Sean Miller (@sean_mmills)

@SideshowGaming On behalf of the League, I want to sincerely thank you and Bren for the invaluable mark you've left. While we respect any decision you ultimately make we would surely miss you, and hope we can find a way to continue working together in some capacity this year.

Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 5:27 PM

[plush grail]

but toilet bowl might be better if they have their own stream with no censors

[willow tartan]

I guess this really was what the content creators were excited about, getting rid of those two idiots Bren and Josh.

[plush grail]

watch your mouth

[willow tartan]

It's their words, not mine.

really caster cursed themselves

[raw ermine]

are you kidding me OWL
ffs

[balmy wolf]

wtf

owl

owl throwing the enire leauge away

gg

[echo quest]

Full time valorant it seems for them

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/MLGPuckett/status/1486396763829420033

Puckett For Hire (@MLGPuckett)

The leagues have the money, why arent they investing in their homegrown top tier talent?

Sideshow on the short list of best broadcasters in esports. This is a huge oooof from OWL, especially if @riotgames is smart and locks him up for Valorant. https://t.co/biBsKMpEhE

Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 5:52 PM

OWL is dead

[balmy wolf]

OWL is dead

[mortal cipher]

[balmy wolf]

anywayd

cant wait for checkmate rein

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/UberShouts/status/1486391750570934275

Mitch Leslie (@UberShouts)

@SideshowGaming oh god

ive fallen for it havent I

Likes

107

Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 5:33 PM

wait
uber thinks its bait

Bren and SS did post identical posts to each other

idk what that means

[noble nexus]

The wording makes me think it’s bait af

“Currently do not have a contract with the league”

Does not mean they won’t sign one soon

[tropic herald]

Me thinks bait

[next mesa]

yeah sideshow and bren are like top 5

esports casters

so great

[balmy wolf]

sans

levy

ian

[next mesa]

hello marbel

[balmy wolf]

i need u

to send my preds

[next mesa]

bet

just dm

does not come from me from marbel

😵

dynasty not #2 insta bad

I like the order of west tho

in the mid tier

high tier dallas glads shock 4 me

[fallen turret]

Love Florida ranking

[tropic herald]

Imo Toronto move up

Florida down one

[balmy wolf]

toronto mid every year

florida beat boston in leaked scrims

[tropic herald]

If Toronto manage to be mid this year it’s a curse

[fallen turret]

Dallas and glads above shock

[balmy wolf]

so idk

[tropic herald]

Bro it’s literally January

You know what happened last season in January

NY sat on Shock in scrims

[balmy wolf]

yes

ik ik

but yall talked shit about my pr last year

yet i was the closest

i dont miss

[next mesa]

honestly shock has proper so like if it turns out they are best

i wouldnt be surprised

but for now dallas #1

[worn falcon]

I don't think it's bait, based on the replies from their friends, even Soe. They didn't accepted the League offer.

and they've been branching out to other games and things lately.

And they're not that kind of dicks to do that for their colleagues.

[vagrant jacinth]

Yeah, I thought it was bait but like

Their follow up tweets make me think otherwise

[vagrant jacinth]

Paris too high, pls fix

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[next mesa]

uprising isnt gonna be that bad

because they have striker

[mortal cipher]

It would be like them to troll unless they’re cast mates are in the replies saying stuff like that

[next mesa]

so first of all they have striker

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[next mesa]

striker tracer is still top 2

tracer will be like best dps

no cappa no kap no 🧢

all crimzo has to do

keep orb on striker

the rest of the team dont throw

coach do the big brain "striker go kill"

easily not too bad

[noble nexus]

Marve1 for OW2 seems like a safe pick imo

Crimzo was pretty good last season and has only ever improved

Striker is striker

Faith and the other cunt aren’t bad for their support line either

They don’t seem bad at all

Easily better than last seasons team

[next mesa]

i wish myunbong went to not boston when he debuted

honestly this is pure hopium but im hoping for a "breakout season" for him maybe he'll start over gangnamjin

[hot onyx]

naw

[noble nexus]

If for whatever reason ana is super broken he will

Outside of that and double FS he won’t start

[next mesa]

well yes

im just getting some hopium juicers

that myunbong in a full korean team & great environment will transform as a player and revert back to his contenders potential

[noble nexus]

Hopium is bad for your brain

[next mesa]

true!

[cedar oasis]

its not

hopium is good for you

everyone needs hope

if you dont have hope

you turn out like one of those wierdos

[north relic]

Myunbong transcends and becomes a top 3 fs

Let’s go

[next mesa]

test

[noble nexus]

test

[next mesa]

alr im good

discord was bugging

[north relic]

yea it was for everyone

[earnest leaf]

myunbong is a mid tier FS with a good ana

like a B tier everything then an A tier ana

[cedar oasis]

you have just marked yourself for death

i will bury you after its done

[last nimbus]

you cant deny the facts

[earnest leaf]

But myunbong and gnj compliment eachother well

[worn falcon]

both midtier, yeh

[cedar oasis]

like danteh

[earnest leaf]

false

[cedar oasis]

danteh is mid

we know this

his tracer is barley top 10

so is his sombra

and hes below average on everything else

[earnest leaf]

wrong

[north relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/895021048792219688.webp?size=128&quality=lossless

[cedar oasis]

its true tho

[next mesa]

i literally know tho

theres a reason why i called it hopium

no basis in logic

[cedar oasis]

i live of hopium

[worn falcon]

live of copium without good casters for OWL

[north relic]

sideshow and bren leaving is pretty sad

but they are still doing plat chat and co streams so it isnt that bad

[simple lance]

Fortnite

[hollow bough]

very sad that sideshow and bren are leaving

[next mesa]

might be bait

[worn falcon]

they don't

[north relic]

who?

[random magnet]

you called?

[devout path]

Owl won’t be the same without those two

[worn falcon]

Seems according to Soe was Bren and Josh decision than OWL, the didnt liked the OWL offer.

Eff i guess

[worldly siren]

Damn, those two were my favorite casters

[balmy wolf]

Uber superior

[worn falcon]

*Semmler

and Crumbz

[balmy wolf]

[north relic]

uberx is probably the better casting duo

but i liked sideshow and bren more

[hot onyx]

Pay more

[willow tartan]

https://twitter.com/Blizzard_Ent/status/1486038723468795906?cxt=HHwWhICprY-WvJ8pAAAA

Blizzard Entertainment (@Blizzard_Ent)

We’re building a survival game in an all-new universe.

Join us in writing our next chapter: https://t.co/yf7W5p9ERQ

Retweets

5630

Likes

39233

Twitter · Jan 25, 2022, 6:10 PM

finally a new blizzard ip in 27 years?

[noble nexus]

that has nothing to do with esports

you're getting banned buddy

[willow tartan]

actually it does

what if this is what the overwatch content creators were excited for

yeah exactly

[balmy wolf]

i wish june joust

was also called

july joust

i wanted more neo goats

maaan

[sullen berry]

Anyone asking Blizzard for a new IP have not been following Blizzard too closely

[north relic]

yo minecraft made by blizzard

[sullen berry]

June joust is now the official honoring of Bren/Sidesowvs contributions, being a plat chat reference and all

*Sideshow

[worn falcon]

no, they tried, just them didn't want

[worn falcon]

ded gaem

[willow tartan]

june journament*

[hot onyx]

Time to rely on co-streams

[worn falcon]

time to move to Valorant

[willow tartan]

brenshow and moth both asking for 2 million contracts

bozzard no moeny apparently

[hot onyx]

Fire Bobby

Big money afterwards

Big reputation as well

[worn falcon]

Bobby gonna leave with money after leaving

[hot onyx]

Which makes bigger money

[willow tartan]

fire whoever decided to not give mr egghead enough money

[worn falcon]

that wallet isnt empty

[willow tartan]

also this does not bode well

cause this means

the budget must be going down from last year right?

or at least allocated to something else

[worn falcon]

yes, towards more failed projects

[willow tartan]

overwatch is not a failed project :(

[worn falcon]

it was a boomy project till actiblizz wanted monies and devs leaving

[willow tartan]

every game runs its course

[worn falcon]

now it's more dry than the sahara desert

[willow tartan]

actually

im not too into sc

do they receive balance changes often

[worn falcon]

sock and corture?

[willow tartan]

starcraft

[worn falcon]

because that game still alive somewhat in Korea

but just reminiscences of the past

same wow

[willow tartan]

their last patch was in aug 24 2020

[worn falcon]

HS ded gaem

[willow tartan]

wait

nvm it didnt show right

[hot onyx]

Hearthstone is pay to win

[willow tartan]

april 6 2021

that's their last patch

[worn falcon]

Then Blizz denying all the local tournies

[willow tartan]

Heroes of the Storm, now that's a dead blizzard game

[worn falcon]

rip APEX

now we gotta wait till, if the buyout goes smooth, MS moves OW team to the Halo team

[willow tartan]

what OW team lol

[worn falcon]

the 3 devs chained here

[willow tartan]

still more developers than tf2

[worn falcon]

Geoff still winking somewhat

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/sdfrq1/some_quick_notes_from_sideshows_stream/

OWL gave him and Bren an offer in early December that they did not think was competitive for the industry standard and what they were being asked to do. The offer was time-limited and they declined, after which it sounds like the league decided to move on. He also said that he has never been in negotiations since Sean Miller took over. (EDIT: for clarification, he said there were "various reasons" for why they didn't want to sign the contract, but only mentioned compensation specifically)

He discussed how Blizzard has handled OWL, and how other companies use their esports as marketing tools to promote their game, like Riot does with Valorant. Team 4 and OWL have never been in sync, and while that has improved with time, it still isn't perfect.

ded gaem

[willow tartan]

just have blizzard official sponsor plat chat costream

[worn falcon]

also

[willow tartan]

easy dubs

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/zetadivision/status/1486293122334470144?s=21

ZETA DIVISION (@zetadivision)

Welcome Home. https://t.co/keEx2neArU

Retweets

10439

Likes

29704

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 11:01 AM

[willow tartan]

yooo

[worn falcon]

Content creator

he is alive, somewhat

[willow tartan]

oh

why is he in a jersey then

if hes not a player

[tropic herald]

Sideshow also said that OWL related talent is often looked over when it comes to other games

[willow tartan]

yea

[tropic herald]

That’s another reason he didn’t want to stay

[willow tartan]

makes sense

[next mesa]

Wtf 30k likes

https://c.tenor.com/IiWXIpQo1RkAAAAM/sheesh-sheeesh.gif

[willow tartan]

plz microsoft

subsidize bren josh cost

save overwatch

[worn falcon]

meanwhile they sending hopium to the people

We can't wait to tell you about how much we can't wait to tell you about how much we can't wait to tell you about how much we can't wait to tell you about how much we can't wait to tell you about how much we can't wait to tell you about how much we can't wait to... #overwatch

[next mesa]

😭

[willow tartan]

they should go the valve route

dont say shit for 4 years and then randomly drop stuff

[tiny pollen]

owl is actually mickey mouse

[willow tartan]

[north relic]

coming soon™

[sullen berry]

We can't we can't we can't we can't...

[devout path]

look where it got them

it works

[willow tartan]

leave your franchise dead in the water and then drop a title 16 years later

[next mesa]

Dude

Owl

Didn't even come back with a second offer

League is an actual joke

Let these 2 walk

[willow tartan]

what are their day rate

we will fund them

[sullen berry]

Like tree said, it works

How quickly we forget the Blizzard machine has always worked best when they have outrageously bad headlines instead of meaningful, positive ones

[willow tartan]

It just works, it just works.

[worldly siren]

I apologize but I fail to see the esports in this message...

[sullen berry]

He tends to forget which channel he's in, ignore it

[worldly siren]

ight

[next mesa]

guys

does lightning mcqueen have life insurance or car insurance

[earnest leaf]

The two would be the same thing to them

[hollow bough]

depends if lightning mcqueen drives a car or not

[tawdry hamlet]

Depends on if they see themselves as beings in car bodies or as one whole being

Since if they're a guy driving a car or a brain driving a car its life insurance, but if their whole species is the car they're getting car insurance I think

Actually they are cars it's just life insurance

Lmao

[echo quest]

The league couldn’t give Bren and sideshow a worthwhile offer

Fucking joke

[sullen berry]

Here are the positives from this

[old portal]

Wait what

Bren and Sideshow aren't in the league anymore?!

[hollow bough]

No

[old portal]

Fuck

That sucks

[devout path]

It’s probs for the best for them

They could probably become casters for vct

Which would net them a better overall career over ow

[old portal]

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm happy for them

But, whether or not it's the better choice for their career. Doesn't mean I'm not sad to see them go.

[devout path]

I am too hopefully I’ll still be able to see them in vct or maybe in an official owl co-stream

[old portal]

Yeah, I hope so.

Sideshow was my path into interest in OWL. His platchat episodes were my highlight after a weekend of OWL. I always loved hearing what he had to say on the matches.

Less so for Bren, but his relationship with Josh was enough for me to tolerate him.

[willow tartan]

funny british man make me laugh

[hot onyx]

Without T-Mobile perks, Brenshow and a competent flex support for the London Spitfire, is OWL even going to be worth watching this year?

[vagrant jacinth]

The fall of owl

sadge

[north relic]

https://twitter.com/SamitoFPS/status/1486512461792661504?s=20

Samito (@SamitoFPS)

And so the redemption arc begins

Grab the railings, it’s gonna get a little crazy 😇

Likes

307

Twitter · Jan 27, 2022, 1:32 AM

Hopium

[plush grail]

ew samito

[north relic]

ew luigi

[vagrant jacinth]

???

Why is ow so cryptic smh

[plush grail]

IT'S GONNA GET A LITTLE CRAZY GUYS

bro shut the fuck up

the last seasonal event had a grand total of 5 new skins

2 legendary and 3 challenge epics

I really want someone at blizzard to tell us how long it takes to make a skin

the overwatch league skin usually takes years/months to come out

are they just super lazy or super slow

[balmy wolf]

idk