esports-discussion

[plush grail]

:(

my gf real

i promise

[north relic]

what’s your social security number

[cedar oasis]

whats your home adress

[balmy wolf]

i dont play chess

but i can do checkers

[north relic]

Sounds like an excuse

[cedar oasis]

EWWWWWWW

pls stop talking

[balmy wolf]

never done chess before

[cedar oasis]

your a shock fan whos never played chess but plays chekers

[balmy wolf]

yep

[cedar oasis]

you need to stop

[balmy wolf]

i havent done checkers seince last year

[cedar oasis]

cheakers is just the beta males chess

[balmy wolf]

any askers?

no?

okay

anyways

i think tracer is gonna be a strong hero in ow2

like always

[digital cloud]

wow, such gumption in making that controversial statement

[balmy wolf]

what does gumption mean

[digital cloud]

I am speaking the Queen's Saxon here, not my fault you don't understand

[vagrant jacinth]

Means read a book

[balmy wolf]

okay

anyways

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/VancouverTitans/status/1485420797904646145

Vancouver Titans (@VancouverTitans)

They told me I wouldn’t tweet this again.

Retweets

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Likes

3231

Twitter · Jan 24, 2022, 1:14 AM

[cedar oasis]

this is why no one likes the titans

[hot onyx]

I like the Titans

just not the org

[cedar oasis]

you like the og runaway

[hot onyx]

yes

[cedar oasis]

not the titans

[hot onyx]

well the new team looks fun to spectate

at least they're trying this year

[cedar oasis]

stfu

titans always suck

[plush grail]

hello besties

[hot onyx]

green waluigi

[plush grail]

bitch

[hot onyx]

would you like to partake in another connect 4 match?

[cedar oasis]

sans is bad at chess

[plush grail]

i need to do some stuff

go bother the non-regular nerds

[hot onyx]

I'm bad at government spying but that's because I've only done it twice

[cedar oasis]

tell us the info then

[hot onyx]

Area 51 is actually just a shit ton of money and no aliens

and the president of thailand wears a wig

that's all I gathered before being threatened by a firing squad

[cedar oasis]

ok sans

[hot onyx]

ok uvalo

[cedar oasis]

im living un ur head rent free still

[hot onyx]

is that so?

[cedar oasis]

yes

im kicking out some brain cells to make room

[hot onyx]

http://connect-4.org/?lb1420

real mans game

[cedar oasis]

weeniehutjr

really

[hot onyx]

yes

[cedar oasis]

yea

[plush grail]

i am

eatsing uncooked meat

[cedar oasis]

YES

[hot onyx]

fuck

[cedar oasis]

i win

[hot onyx]

missclick

[cedar oasis]

gotem

[hot onyx]

how the

[plush grail]

AHAHAHHA

SANS

MY CHILD

BEAT U

[cedar oasis]

I WIN

[hot onyx]

i literally clicked middle

and it registered left

[cedar oasis]

ha

sure

[hot onyx]

i would send video proof

if it was recording

luigi

[plush grail]

:>

[cedar oasis]

sure you did

he also misclicked alot in chess

[hot onyx]

Fuck off

I missclicked once in chess in a scenario where it was already lost

The rest was just fusion fan idiocy

[plush grail]

i cant wait till owl starts man

owl viewing party gonna be hell

[hot onyx]

uvalo

i think you missclicked

[cedar oasis]

FUCK

i did

[hot onyx]

damn hate it when that happens

[cedar oasis]

sans

what are you doing

this some fusion strat im not aware of

[hot onyx]

and it is working

[cedar oasis]

is it

[hot onyx]

you bet your mcdonalds sweet chilli chicken wrap ass it is

nice little trap gg

[cedar oasis]

I LOST???

oh i see it now

[hot onyx]

you could've put your counter at 3

and I would've had it either way

[balmy wolf]

cant wait for shock to win grabd finals and 3peat

and be cool

[cedar oasis]

im goin mad now

[balmy wolf]

and be even cooler

[hot onyx]

rentfreerentfreerentfree

[cedar oasis]

ok buddy

you kicked me outa your brain for now

ill find my way back in tho

[hot onyx]

uh you kind of lost

what's it like back in my brain?

[cedar oasis]

dam

your a tough opponent in connect 4

[hot onyx]

correct

just dogwater at chess

[cedar oasis]

sans

your taking awhile

[hot onyx]

calculations

[cedar oasis]

oh

i dont do those

i follow my heart

[hot onyx]

look where that got you

i followed my heart in chess

[cedar oasis]

so do i

[hot onyx]

yeah but i don't have a heart

[cedar oasis]

im evolving

you cant stop evolution

i dont even know what im doing at this point

[hot onyx]

that square makes no difference

[cedar oasis]

shut

[hot onyx]

that one would've been a win either way

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/take-the-l-loser-dance-gif-15111363

[cedar oasis]

im still in this match

ian give me strength

[hot onyx]

ian please give him strength

[cedar oasis]

hurry up sanbs

[plush grail]

stfu

[hot onyx]

if you say so

hurry up ubalo

[cedar oasis]

i lost again

fuck

i know how you play now

[hot onyx]

mimic me then

take my form instead of ians

[cedar oasis]

no

i will evolve

[hot onyx]

that'd be a sight to see

[cedar oasis]

im back in ur head now

[hot onyx]

ok buddy

[plush grail]

let me 1v1 sans

[cedar oasis]

luigi

ill win for u

[plush grail]

no u suck

[cedar oasis]

i dont

[hot onyx]

after this we 1v1

[cedar oasis]

i know how he plays

ill win this time

[hot onyx]

actually i need to make dinner then i will

[willow tartan]

when the fuck is the thingy gonna thing?>??/

aaaaaaa

[plush grail]

what

[cedar oasis]

shd fans brains

[hot onyx]

free of rental

[cedar oasis]

so is yours

i know the way in now

[hot onyx]

you forgot the keys

[cedar oasis]

you locking the doors didnt stop me

[plush grail]

hey sans

can i ask u a question

[hot onyx]

as long as it isn't related to the vietnam war sure

[plush grail]

why ugly

[hot onyx]

fusiom

[cedar oasis]

facts

I WIN

YES

[hot onyx]

oh shit

[cedar oasis]

i told you

[hot onyx]

didn't see that one

[cedar oasis]

im back in

[hot onyx]

not even mad gg

[cedar oasis]

living rent free

gg

[hot onyx]

lemme go see about dinner then i'll brb

[cedar oasis]

ok

[balmy wolf]

neo goats

the greatest

the best

[hot onyx]

time for more connect 4 whore-u

[cedar oasis]

okok

[hot onyx]

fuck i'll brb

[cedar oasis]

ok

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/timthetatman/status/1485645136914792452?t=dIn8p3IhQCpMQcmEPzqR2w&s=19

timthetatman👑 (@timthetatman)

50k likes and i play overwatch this week

Retweets

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Likes

29352

Twitter · Jan 24, 2022, 4:06 PM

GAS TIM THE TAT MAN

[cedar oasis]

watching tim was fun

the opener

[earnest leaf]

can't wait for him to play 5 games then say the game is trash and not touch it for another 2 years

[cedar oasis]

and get trolled

by sym 1 trick

[hot onyx]

back

lets connect

@cedar oasis

[cedar oasis]

ok

MISCLICK

FUCK

[hot onyx]

not really

oh wait it wad

[cedar oasis]

thats an actual misclick

[hot onyx]

dw i'll keep it going

only a little though because my fish and chips are nearly ready

speedrun

ok do you want to hear something very funny

[cedar oasis]

what

[hot onyx]

now why would you do that

[cedar oasis]

whas that also a misclick

[hot onyx]

wait you win either way

[cedar oasis]

yea

[hot onyx]

but if you didn't missclick I would've put mine where you put your missclicked counter and won

[cedar oasis]

well call it a tie

[hot onyx]

seems fair

jee jee double you pee

now to go before my fish burns

[cedar oasis]

yea

[plush grail]

u suck

[cedar oasis]

no you

you spy player

[plush grail]

I play

Pyro and demo

[last nimbus]

i have a question

in s1 did mercy ult refresh her resurrection

[north relic]

yyes

[last nimbus]

wow never knew that that was a thing

https://imgur.com/a/MdPhuJB

[tawdry hamlet]

Dhak hehe

[hot onyx]

Kariv Unkoe support duo feels like a fever dream

[north relic]

mercy rez was instant also

[last nimbus]

yeah i saw kariv ulting instantly after he used rez

kinda broken

devs were on crack then with patches

well they still are

[noble nexus]

atleast they released patches back then

we've had cree roll in the air in like 80% of the patches they dropped over the last two years

[sullen berry]

Fried or oven bake fish n chips?

[sullen berry]

Super & sleepy got together a few days ago to play ladder together, they managed to trick some streamers new to OW into 6 stacking goats

[north relic]

Sleepy the justice support?

[tepid ibex]

Yh

[tropic thicket]

Hilarious watching them find out about Brig

[noble nexus]

Nah sleepy the shock support

[willow tartan]

there is a second sleepy?

[north relic]

yea the one that used to be on the hangzhou charge

[noble nexus]

nah they're both the same person dumbass

sleepy played for shock and justice

[willow tartan]

my brain doesnt remember sleepy playing on justice

the only thing i remember about sleepy is the bucket

[north relic]

What happened to the sleepy isy duo

[noble nexus]

Isy allegedly said some no-no words and did some no-no things iirc

Isy still plays ranked and streams himself tho I think so idek if the allegations are remotely true

[north relic]

Yea I see isy in some ranked games still

[sullen berry]

OMG WHY AM I NOT DYING?

[worn falcon]

wrong tag

fuck

[next mesa]

bru

[earnest leaf]

oh yea got bored

in s3 GF ans vs fits in widow duels was 8-4

With fits getting more

but 5 of those 8 came from Gibraltar alone

so outside of that map they were pretty even

[next mesa]

Fits >> Ans confirmed

[earnest leaf]

Most interesting part was that they almost never peaked eachother

[next mesa]

well usually

like when you're so good

[earnest leaf]

But the funny thing was striker railed fits, and ans railed profit

[next mesa]

the guy that peaks just dies

nah dps was very balanced

unfortunate support gap

[earnest leaf]

Viol2t simply built different

[next mesa]

fr

those 2 kills on fits and tobi sealed the game

idk why tobi didnt pull the glock way earlier tbh

missplay

[tawdry hamlet]

Widow 1v1 proves the peeker almost always dies lmao, it's literally just wait until one finally peeks and hope the enemy crosshair isn't there

[next mesa]

thats why diem and ans turned out to be a meme

[tawdry hamlet]

Lmao staring at that wall

[next mesa]

lol because why would they peek

if they peek theyre the one thats gonna die

that needs to change imo

idk how though

they could do like a widow ffa

[tawdry hamlet]

Unless your movement is good enough they lost you and don't have their crosshair on the angle you're fucked since the guy already there just has to click the peeker has to move aim and click

[plush grail]

STFU talk about paris

[tawdry hamlet]

Naga < Backbone 😤

[next mesa]

Paris bottom 3 the end

Maybe 4

Probably 4

[plush grail]

seoul is ass

[willow tartan]

how is that related to paris tho

[balmy wolf]

Help

[north relic]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/sbzz4c/wanteds_experimental_card_proposition_for_hitscan/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[balmy wolf]

i am main character now?

poggers

i think nyxl will be a good team

like last time

[noble nexus]

Who

[balmy wolf]

?

[noble nexus]

Who asked

[balmy wolf]

:(

[noble nexus]

Sorry :(

Also nyxl overrated

London>>

[balmy wolf]

your getting your blizzard account reported

[noble nexus]

Ok

Thank god

[balmy wolf]

yo for ow2

i wonder if rein will ever

become meta

also i love nyxl

[noble nexus]

Really?

[north relic]

Aren’t you a shock fan

[balmy wolf]

not as much as shock

[noble nexus]

I couldn’t tell

[balmy wolf]

but i love nyxl and charge

cant wait for them to be in the finals against shock

[noble nexus]

Politely stop talking

[north relic]

Dragons*

[balmy wolf]

i mean

[north relic]

Politely stop talking

[balmy wolf]

yeah

definitly dragons

yo

[noble nexus]

Bad opinion + ratio

[balmy wolf]

if the dragons signed someone

who should they sign

[north relic]

someone is in mayhem dummie

[noble nexus]

Diem

[balmy wolf]

i think

[north relic]

Probably another fs for double fs but there isn’t any left that’s better than ljg

[balmy wolf]

wait

ljg best fs?

poggers

[noble nexus]

LJG bap is good tbh

[north relic]

Yea

[random magnet]

these are huge W

[noble nexus]

And double support is usually just bap + someone else

[north relic]

Idk about ljg zen ana though

[balmy wolf]

i want

viol2t

[willow tartan]

fleta can play zen/ana

ezpz

[noble nexus]

With his feet

[north relic]

Bringing in whoru

Benching ljg

[willow tartan]

one eye closed as well

[balmy wolf]

real?

[noble nexus]

Out of vc

[north relic]

I can play overwatch with one eye closed

[noble nexus]

Same

Blue beaming someone doesn’t exactly require much thought or game sense

[willow tartan]

I doubt the meta ever becomes zen ana though

[north relic]

I play overwatch with two eyes closed if I ever go mercy

[noble nexus]

If it was ow1 I’d also say zen ana won’t happen

But ow2 goes bonkers

So it’s whatever

[willow tartan]

zen gets 2 discords in ow2

[noble nexus]

Rein gets 3 fire strikes in ow3 because thats the only rein buff they’re willing to try

[north relic]

Don’t forget he can cancel charge

!

[noble nexus]

Damn that’s like genji’s deflect cancel thing except when genji got his QOL buff he also got a huge damage buff with it

[north relic]

Rein hammer does 100 a swing

[noble nexus]

And rein is a cripple compared to every hero in the game

[north relic]

Hitting into a wall with charge bounces him up

[willow tartan]

yeah who tf would the dragons sign at the FS position

poach faraway?

[north relic]

Ripa

[willow tartan]

no

[north relic]

Fs has been milked dry

[balmy wolf]

carcar

[noble nexus]

Nah they’d add that in as a bug accidentally and keep it in the game as “rein tech”

Like they did with doom

[north relic]

And mercy

[willow tartan]

their random late season signing is still diem though. I have hope

[noble nexus]

Also Shanghai could sign coldest

Unless he’s still on spark

[willow tartan]

coldest is on spark

[noble nexus]

Idk honestly their roster confuses me

[north relic]

Isn’t coldest on valiant

[willow tartan]

oh yeah he is nvm

[noble nexus]

I just assume that all of their roster moves are them dropped coaches and signing new ones

[willow tartan]

forgot about that

[noble nexus]

Oh damn coldest is on another team I don’t care about

[north relic]

There literally isn’t any fs left

[noble nexus]

Me

[willow tartan]

is charon on a team

my brain is having vacation for the off season and I can't remember for the life of me

[next mesa]

Coaching

I think t1

[balmy wolf]

what happend to chara

i wish there were more teams like 2021 shoxk

cause like

in play ins

they played a ton of cool looking comps

like

rein torb dva bap brig mcree

oh now i see what happend to chara

[north relic]

https://twitter.com/super_OW/status/1485895312430583815?s=20

Matthew DeLisi (@super_OW)

gonna make an nft of this nasty deposit in the toilet I just made, this one will sell for big bucks

Likes

1956

Twitter · Jan 25, 2022, 8:40 AM

Super nft

[plush grail]

okay

[balmy wolf]

time to buy supers new nft

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/FRANA_OW/status/1485831110814842882

FRAN (@FRANA_OW)

no i am not writing this to shill NFTs to you. i am writing this to explain, apologize, address (cont) https://t.co/ZE06lh6RtB

Likes

1397

Twitter · Jan 25, 2022, 4:25 AM

[worn falcon]

Another is gone

https://twitter.com/BenBest_Ow/status/1485892927121465346?t=Uly5P5KwGRGzHp7EFyC5ig&s=19

BenBest (@BenBest_Ow)

That's sad, second year my chance to be in the league is fucked by the visa.
Will wait next year i guess

Likes

769

Twitter · Jan 25, 2022, 8:30 AM

Sad ge

[willow tartan]

brooo

no way

[cedar oasis]

The best looking man in owl

[devout path]

Wow

[cedar oasis]

Actualy no

Sbb best looking

Always sbb

[willow tartan]

neither are in owl

[balmy wolf]

kai hotter

[north relic]

Ans>Kai

[hot onyx]

oven baked fish and air fried chips

[hot onyx]

Maybe if Dragons wanted to keep some chinese influence they could sign Kyo and Seawave

[balmy wolf]

hottest owl player is gangnamjin

i mean

space

[noble nexus]

You mean Ans?

[balmy wolf]

yes

[worn falcon]

Super hottest owl player

[fallen turret]

Piggy hotter

[hot onyx]

I’m seeing a disturbing lack of Poko in this debate

[balmy wolf]

no

[noble nexus]

Both poko and benbest are hella overrated

[hot onyx]

They are rated for a reason

[noble nexus]

I’m just gonna say it

You’d think they’re gods gift to earth with some of the shit people say about them

But they’re like above average attractiveness at most

[plush grail]

benbest and poko are okay

[noble nexus]

Ans + Shu >>>>

[plush grail]

but id fuck onigod

[noble nexus]

Bad take

[plush grail]

HHAHAHAHA

ANS?

[noble nexus]

You’re also straight

So

Cope

[plush grail]

im straight but i can find men handsome

[noble nexus]

You just said you’d fuck a man

[plush grail]

so

dont be straightphobic jack

[balmy wolf]

jack = straightphobic

[plush grail]

i am shockphobic

[balmy wolf]

i am loserphobic and parisphobic

yeah

so dont harass me you loser paris fans

[noble nexus]

No one asked

[balmy wolf]

that isnt very kind to say

[plush grail]

:)

[balmy wolf]

why are you happy

okay

anyways

if you could sign any player to your team of choice (doesnt matter if they are on a team in contenders or not even in owl) who would you sign

[plush grail]

paris onigod

[noble nexus]

Birdring 😭

[balmy wolf]

i'd do colourhex to paris and never bench him

this can help paris win

[noble nexus]

Chex > Dalton

[plush grail]

chex is not better than naga lmao

[noble nexus]

Should’ve picked Dalton

[balmy wolf]

nk

no

chex the best

anyways

what team seems the most overrated currently

[deft valley]

Whatever is happening in here it needs to have stopped about 15 minutes ago

[plush grail]

your favorite team

[balmy wolf]

and why

[plush grail]

its shock right

[balmy wolf]

yes

but why

explain

[plush grail]

they're shit rn

[balmy wolf]

.

[plush grail]

idk why people still consider them good

[balmy wolf]

your telling me

proper super viol2t on the same team is bad

[plush grail]

yes

[balmy wolf]

how

[plush grail]

because i said so

[balmy wolf]

explain better

ngl

they seem like the most flexible players in owl

all of them can flex

[noble nexus]

Fate is more flexible than super + ratio + Viol2t mid ana

[balmy wolf]

can fate do the offtank like super?

and have we seen enough viol2t ana

idk about viol2ts ana too

[north relic]

Super offtank overrated

[noble nexus]

Super plays off tanks, excluding hog, at a below average level for owl

[north relic]

Not inspiring

[noble nexus]

that was one map tbf his sigma isn't that bad

[balmy wolf]

but at least it isnt bad

[north relic]

I would rather super force mt than play ot tbh

[noble nexus]

factual take

[balmy wolf]

watch super become best dva >:(

[noble nexus]

not even close

[cedar oasis]

Wait

How the fuck did he get regular

There is a conspiracy against me

[north relic]

No longer side character lol

[cedar oasis]

The mods have it out for me

[north relic]

It’s a bot that does it automatically

[cedar oasis]

That's some bs

What did I ever do to the bot

[noble nexus]

probably because you wont shut up about not being a regular

!!regular

[young fractal]

The regular role is given to users who maintain good behaviour and visit the server to chat frequently. Users with this role gain access to special permissions such as uploads, embeds, bot tags, reactions, and role colours. Please do not ask to be given this role, you will receive it when you are eligible! ✨

[noble nexus]

just talk more :)

[north relic]

Flex support plat chat coming up

This is gonna be interesting

Flex support is the most stacked role other than like fdps

[cedar oasis]

I do all that

I chat regularly

[north relic]

It says maintain good behavior

[cedar oasis]

I do that

[north relic]

You play connect 4 in an esports channel

[cedar oasis]

Compared to everyone here I am average

I behave good

[north relic]

Everyone here talked for real and then played connect 5

[cedar oasis]

So your saying playing connect 4 is not good behavior

[north relic]

!!rule3

[young fractal]

3) Be mindful of channels and their uses. Please read the channel descriptions and pins prior to posting, as instructions contained in these places will also be enforced.
• Content submitted to #video-content and #fanart should be related to Overwatch.
• Looking-For-Group requests should be restricted to the LFG channels.

[cedar oasis]

Some bs

How is serious discussion about ow being enforced here

[north relic]

Honesty this channel is the only exception

Lore chat will literally kill you if you shitpost once

[cedar oasis]

This isn't lore chat tho

I bet most of the people here don't go into the other chats

[worn falcon]

But this one have the serious tag tho

the convo was stupidly deranged before the mod jumped

[north relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/881328689374183444.gif?size=56

[cedar oasis]

That's unfair

[balmy wolf]

dont be sad

[cedar oasis]

How long have you been here

Nah ur right about that lore thing tho

They will eat you alive there

But if this places rules were enforced he no one would talk for weeks

[worn falcon]

that's why you have gen-d and ow-d

you can hang perfectly in any channel without derail it into shitpost and cope gifs

[cedar oasis]

That's just Luigi

[balmy wolf]

i forgot

[north relic]

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on May 12, 2020

[worn falcon]

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on Feb 10, 2017

[cedar oasis]

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on May 25, 2020

[balmy wolf]

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on Dec 30, 2021

[cedar oasis]

NAH

[north relic]

Huge L

[north relic]

Huge L

[cedar oasis]

Wth

That's barley a month

How

[balmy wolf]

i left the server once

[cedar oasis]

So???

[balmy wolf]

cause i got really sad and angry that day

i rejoined on that day

[cedar oasis]

I've been here 2 years

[worn falcon]

i joined 2016 to see what was about ow, i didnt bought the game

so dipped and came back in 2017

[cedar oasis]

2 years

[willow tartan]

you're a paris fan that's why

[cedar oasis]

ok im switching up

forgive me luigi

[worn falcon]

https://t.co/Q2FiGEW2oP

[balmy wolf]

istg if viol2t isnt top 5 or 4

[noble nexus]

you'd be stupid not to put him top 3

their top 3 is probably gonna be jjonak alarm viol2t

or izayaki

[balmy wolf]

yea

[willow tartan]

imo to be part of the GOAT convo you have to have played at least 3 years

think that's a good general rule

consistent performance across 3 seasons

[balmy wolf]

viol2t has played 3 years poggers

[hot onyx]

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on May 28, 2020

[hot onyx]

Yeah but not consistently

[balmy wolf]

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on Dec 30, 2021

[random magnet]

[balmy wolf]

be quiet you geezer

[random magnet]

[north relic]

Top 3 are probably violet alarm izayaki

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[north relic]

Jjonak twilight somewhere near

[random magnet]

has ChipSa played 3 years yet? 🙂

[balmy wolf]

wonder whos above bdosin

hmmm

[hot onyx]

Does Bdosin even make it?

[balmy wolf]

bdosin was 8

[next mesa]

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on Jul 19, 2018

[next mesa]

Lol

[random magnet]

I'm going to refrain from listing my top 10 list out of fear

[balmy wolf]

i wonder if bdosin is below creative

if he is

[noble nexus]

honestly you've got to expect jjonak top 3 because they're nostalgia monkeys

[balmy wolf]

the people are deranged

[noble nexus]

although viol2t alarm izayaki is the only acceptable top 3

[balmy wolf]

feilder 7

[north relic]

Shu maybe above twilight for top 5

[next mesa]

Jehong probably #3

Or #4

[north relic]

I thought this was a flex support list not main tank

[willow tartan]

something like that would make sense

[hot onyx]

I’m not:
Alarm
Izayaki
Viol2t
JJonak
Twilight
Shu
Fielder
Iris
Kariv
Bdosin

[north relic]

Ok ik alarm is good but he is probably #3 for me

[willow tartan]

he also played for only 2 seasons

second best rookie year by far

but also fusion was dead in 2021

[hot onyx]

He did and within those two seasons he proved himself to be the best flex support in such a short space of time

[next mesa]

Jjonak is at least top 5

[willow tartan]

he wasn't the best flex support in either of the two seasons he played

[next mesa]

Not jjonak

Jehong*

[hot onyx]

And Alarm put up consistently good performances despite being stuck with Mano ball and EQO sombra for half a season

Viol2t didn’t deadlift Mano to the playoffs

JJonak wasn’t praised as the sole reason that Sado was ranked as a top 5 main tank

[plush grail]

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on Jun 01, 2019

[hot onyx]

Also Jehong hard fell off when season 1 started

[next mesa]

He was good in s2 he's out of the league only because of titans just like fissure and jjanu

And consensus goat before owl s1

[hot onyx]

Yeah but I didn’t watch pro ow before s1 so it’s irrelevant

[tropic herald]

twilight shu viol2t izayaki jjonak uhhhh

jehong maybe just for longevity

alarm

[hot onyx]

Zebosai

Aimgod

[noble nexus]

for all time jehong should be top 5

[tropic herald]

ok yeah 6 is fair

[willow tartan]

my brain thinks is good

[hot onyx]

I mean

Jehong did good before there was really any competition

[willow tartan]

or rather he played so far above the rest of the competition

at least how i rate when it comes to all time rankings is how dominant they were in their era

[tropic herald]

jehong gonna be in top 5 solely out of length of time

[hot onyx]

Apex yeah I understand but it’d be a stretch to call him top 5 in owl standards for any season

[willow tartan]

it's not for owl

just rating all time

[hot onyx]

I know

Imo his falloff in owl counteracts putting him in top 5 all time

[cedar oasis]

true

[willow tartan]

let me think about it

[hot onyx]

Heck he wasn’t ever top 5 owl in any season

[cedar oasis]

wow

s1

i think

[hot onyx]

JJonak Bdosin Kariv Aimgod Shaz

[little tusk]

anyone seen those Wanted suggested changes

[willow tartan]

where is the conspiracy theory for the collapse of seoul in 2018?

[balmy wolf]

viol2t moira bad?

[hot onyx]

Debatably Boombox

[balmy wolf]

wtf

[cedar oasis]

actually s1 seoul was trash nvm

[next mesa]

It was peak ow unfortunately

[next mesa]

Coaches put jehong as tank

Miro was the only one that actually fell off

[willow tartan]

that doesn't explain it all you know

[hot onyx]

I would make a heavy argument that season 2 stage 1 final and season 3 summer showdown final was peak overwatch

[willow tartan]

you cant say fucking genji double shield was peak overwatch

LET ALONE

[hot onyx]

I liked genji double shield

[balmy wolf]

you fucking cant say neo goats wasnt the best

[willow tartan]

pre-role lock overwatch was fucking dogshit

[balmy wolf]

or bastion old double sheild

[hot onyx]

Yes I can

[willow tartan]

you are out of your mind

role queue is literally the best thing to happen to overwatch

[next mesa]

Wrong

[hot onyx]

Queue for an open queue match

[next mesa]

Role queue was only necessary because goats and brig being so strong for so long

[hot onyx]

And tell me truthfully

[balmy wolf]

that shit sucks

[hot onyx]

How many dps there are on each team

[next mesa]

Peak overwatch was maximum creativity

[next mesa]

A dead gamemode nobody plays doesn't represent how it was in 2017-2018

[willow tartan]

"Peak" overwatch was losing at the hero select screen because your team didn't want to coordinate

[hot onyx]

It kind of does since I pretty much started playing tank solely because everybody below diamond wants to play dps, roadhog or mercy/moira

[next mesa]

I'm talking about pro play you fool

Not to mention that's a design flaw

[hot onyx]

Yeah and you said role lock wasn’t a good thing for ow

[next mesa]

In an ideal world it's split 33-33-33

Of course it was good

It was even i say necessary

But why was it necessary in the first place

[willow tartan]

peak pro overwatch 2019 in terms of production quality

not in gameplay

fuck no

[next mesa]

Because devs made twice as many dps heroes as any other role

And then brig

[hot onyx]

A combination of dps shits not knowing how to flex and a lacklustre development team not knowing how to balance other roles into being more fun

[willow tartan]

because they were separate roles.

[cedar oasis]

s1 was peak

dive is the best

[balmy wolf]

pre role lock is ass

[cedar oasis]

genji tracer

monke

and it was before brig

any time after brig cant be peak ow

[balmy wolf]

owl was good

but overwatch was bad

check old overwatch vods

so many fucking dps

[cedar oasis]

you said you came in s4

[balmy wolf]

yes

i watched OLD VODS

not live

[cedar oasis]

exactly

you wouldent understand unless you were there

s1 was the best

[trail perch]

Nah

s2

stage 3

peak ow

best ever

[willow tartan]

💪

[trail perch]

Yes we get it shanghai fan

But like

the meta diversity was incredible

we got goats varients

[willow tartan]

yeah okay washington grand finals schizo

[trail perch]

dive varients

ball

orisa

hog

quad tank

triple dps

Etc.

[trail perch]

hush

I was probably on drugs

[next mesa]

Yes that was great

[trail perch]

cause spain decriminalized literally everyhting

so i have had a wild time whenever i go home

[cedar oasis]

crack hed

[trail perch]

Not crack before

that shit ruins ur life

[cedar oasis]

meth head

[trail perch]

only once that shit felt so strange

[noble nexus]

No one cares

Me > You

[trail perch]

haha L + ratio + ur american + u fell off + hablas ingles solo + ur dumb

[cedar oasis]

gotem

[earnest leaf]

Avast had viol2t 4th

And custa had viol2t 3rd for best FS

Because "he can't play ana and moira"

[cedar oasis]

kinda true tho

[north relic]

yo guys new overwatch event

[cedar oasis]

his ana is like 11th

[north relic]

with two legendary skins...

viol2t moira is pretty good

[tropic herald]

[north relic]

even if it wasnt you cant really take off points for having a bad moira

[tropic herald]

deserved honestly

[noble nexus]

who asked + cope + ratio + I'm not even american + skill issue + bozo

[earnest leaf]

His moira isn't even bad

[balmy wolf]

viol2t bad moira?

fucking what

hes usually the top moira

[cedar oasis]

his ana bad

[willow tartan]

haha what

[balmy wolf]

his ana isnt bad either

just gets benched by twighliht

[cedar oasis]

his ana

mid

barley top 10

barley

[earnest leaf]

He hasn't really played ana in a while though

So we don't know how good it is

Since shock had arguably a top 2 ana playing ana over him for two years

[tiny pollen]

Violet can literally play every support hero at an owl level

And his moria is v good

[cedar oasis]

you say owl

level

[earnest leaf]

Avast put shu over viol2t

[cedar oasis]

on ana?

or overall

[earnest leaf]

overall

[tropic herald]

AVAST IS BASED

[cedar oasis]

oh

[earnest leaf]

I like avast

[balmy wolf]

avast delusional

[earnest leaf]

but sometimes he has questionable takes

[balmy wolf]

^

[tropic herald]

his methodolgy for the list is what i agree with the most

[north relic]

did shu play s2

[tropic herald]

i have a very exponential taste for seasons

last season? weighs a lot

[tiny pollen]

Every support

[tropic herald]

s1? ways somewhat but not all that much

[earnest leaf]

I usually rate s2-4

because s1 was mickey mouse shit

[tiny pollen]

Support hyperflex

[tropic herald]

i do like s3 and s4 mostly

s2 a little

s1 barely

[cedar oasis]

how was s1 micky mouse shit

[earnest leaf]

Go look at s1 rosters and you'll know why

[tropic herald]

i take everything else before that into account if the player was good then and still is

[cedar oasis]

s1 rosters were good

seouls roster was really good going into owl

so was london

[earnest leaf]

yea custa had jjonak #1

lmao

[noble nexus]

I knew it

nostalgia monkeys

[willow tartan]

wtf is that

[earnest leaf]

bad list

[balmy wolf]

umm0

wtf

[willow tartan]

god bless custa

[balmy wolf]

some of these ppl r whs

[cedar oasis]

s1 and 2 jjonack was top 3

[earnest leaf]

Owl is weird

There is so much recency bias

but at the same time a bunch of nostalgia bias

[tropic herald]

id rather have recency bias tbh

[willow tartan]

recency bias is the reason why leave won mvp

[tropic herald]

would u rather fearless win mvp off of one stage?

[willow tartan]

no i would rather people understand that the mvp title = best player in the league

[earnest leaf]

I mean leave did some dirt nasty shit

without him chengdu doesn't see a single tourney

[willow tartan]

cuz if you're basing off who carried their team to success the hardest then the answer is pelican

[devout path]

Except leave was better

[willow tartan]

yeah except LIP is also better

[devout path]

Lip is not better than leave

[willow tartan]

yeah okay good talk

[devout path]

It’s not even recency bias cuz leave popped so hard every stage

It does help that lip was playing with arguably the best roster in league history

[cedar oasis]

a person could be the best for 3 stages then be bad at the last one but not win mvp

[willow tartan]

and why do you think that roster was good?

cant just dismiss it like that

[devout path]

Cuz everyone on the roster was insane?

[willow tartan]

again you can have a different definition for MVP, but I still believe that MVP = best player of the league in that year

not whoever carried their team the hardest

that's a non-factor for me when i voted

[devout path]

Everyone on that team was mvp level in any season that leave didn’t go crazy

[earnest leaf]

I mean I think it's fair to say leave was the best player in the league

[willow tartan]

yes you can make the argument for it however i disagree.

[cedar oasis]

no

[devout path]

Some where still mvp level

Also void is better than lip

Leejaegon is too

[willow tartan]

doesnt matter cuz leejaegon > void

out of all the shanghai players leejaegon was by far the most ahead of the competition in his position

[devout path]

I mean

There wasn’t much competition

[cedar oasis]

remember when he fed and everyone got mad at him

[devout path]

Most main top supports weren’t rlly playing

[willow tartan]

haha yeah the start of the june joust finals was really nerve racking

[earnest leaf]

Ms sucked last year

[willow tartan]

those first few maps

[tropic herald]

https://clips.twitch.tv/FantasticAnnoyingPenguinBudBlast-RrOwP54f1oDTr6_a

[earnest leaf]

"can you play brig?" if yes you did well in s4

[devout path]

Except fdgod

[earnest leaf]

his brig was ok

but twilight/viol2t had better brigs

[willow tartan]

viol2t lucio still haunts me

[devout path]

Lucio is the reason main support players will stay relevant

Mercy too but less so

[willow tartan]

and also whatever new main supports are released in ow2

[devout path]

If there are any

[willow tartan]

i think ow2 will transcend the barrier of main/flex support

and they will evolve into different roles

[devout path]

Brig player and everyone else

[willow tartan]

i think they will still exist cuz you cant have 1 guy play 11 heroes at an elite level

same w tank

[devout path]

Tank is gonna be weird to categorize

[earnest leaf]

It depends on how they make tanks

[willow tartan]

I think tanks will have one primary tank player that plays and then a specialist

[earnest leaf]

if they make them function more like OTs or MTs

[willow tartan]

depending on how the meta turns out

[devout path]

Brawl tank bunker tank

[willow tartan]

if it's a hard dva meta though hanbin is gonna feast hard

[devout path]

I can see them categorized on playstyle

[cedar oasis]

libero did that

on dps tho

[devout path]

So did fleta and profit

[cedar oasis]

profit was kind inconsistent

when it didnt matter

[devout path]

Ur kinda inconsistent

[willow tartan]

sorry to clarify i mean elite as in top 3

like

be the absolute best

cause i dont think ow2 will make it so swapping mid game will happen too much

but also it won't matter as significantly since not every hero is gonna be viable

[devout path]

This next season will be exclusively broken op bs

[willow tartan]

yes

and its going to be glorious

[devout path]

Then it will get slowly better

Maybe we’ll see goats 2.0 season 6

[willow tartan]

this season is gonna be the cerebral coaches battling it out with the most adaptive players

[devout path]

Coaching is gonna be so important

[willow tartan]

and i am going to be very disappointed if we find something busted first week into the season and then having it stay like that for the whole year

[cedar oasis]

thats where tobi comes in clutch

[last nimbus]

if fd and jecse dont get picked up i will throw something

[devout path]

They won’t probs

[willow tartan]

fdgod jecse and moth stil lft

[last nimbus]

moth didnt say he was lft

[willow tartan]

weird alternate timeline we are in

yea

[last nimbus]

his twitter says fa but idk

[devout path]

He did

[last nimbus]

he did?

[willow tartan]

moth could have retired already honestly

[devout path]

I think he did

[willow tartan]

cashed out his 1.5 million dollar buyout from glads or some shit like that

[devout path]

Or he has a contract already with another team and it hasn’t been announced yet

[willow tartan]

who the fk would he go to

[devout path]

Idk

[earnest leaf]

We probably won't see many MS signings until closer to the start of owl

Houston is an option

[devout path]

Kinda smart to not sign a ms until they see ow2

[last nimbus]

i heard super say in a video he hasnt spoken to moth in months

[willow tartan]

he's gone to the forest to eat mushrooms

farmer now

[devout path]

The classic

[last nimbus]

so if they would re-sign moth i think super as team captain at least would speak to him a bit but unless he lied its not likely shock has interest in signing him rn

[devout path]

I wonder if any other former pros will come back

[last nimbus]

idk maybe houston will sign fd but jecse seems more likely to me

[devout path]

Could still be negotiating

[willow tartan]

man if he's still negotiating he needs to get a better manager

taking a long ass while

[devout path]

Lol

[last nimbus]

he doesnt want 1.5m

he wants 1.6

[willow tartan]

how is xzi doing btw

did he say he was taking 2022 off?

[devout path]

I mean moth leaving shock then shock having problems with the backline kinda makes him more valuable

[devout path]

Isn’t he still in contenders

[cedar oasis]

i want shadowburn back

where he at

[last nimbus]

yeah it sad

[willow tartan]

no

[last nimbus]

violet + fdgod just didnt work out

[willow tartan]

he never played in contenders 2021

back problemo + ping issue + roster locks mean he never got a chance to participate

so i have no idea if he's looking to play in the 2022 season or not

[last nimbus]

shadowburn?

wasnt he big in s1/s2

[devout path]

I think he was looking for a Korean team this owl season

[last nimbus]

according to his twitter he seems to be playing alot of valorant

[willow tartan]

ah well then he's sol

[devout path]

He said he wants to keep playing ow so

[vagrant jacinth]

I loved watching sdb play

[cedar oasis]

he was great

but then brig came

[vagrant jacinth]

yeah 😔

[last nimbus]

https://imgur.com/a/P5JhiTz im watching s1 for the first time

i can confirm now myself this is pretty fun to watch

[cedar oasis]

s1 was the best

no beig

[north relic]

Mickey Mouse

[cedar oasis]

brig

that makes no sense

[last nimbus]

this guy has another blade within 60 seconds

no joke

wtf

[cedar oasis]

best genji

eu

[last nimbus]

no spoiler

i also like poko bombs in action

thought they exaggerated with his bombs always killing people but so far its true

[willow tartan]

god i was listening to the season 4 owl soundtrack and for a second i forgot it was a track and thought i had an owl stream in another tab waiting for the game to start

just one second of bliss....

[north relic]

that isnt season 1 4head

[north relic]

season 4 soundtrack had a lot of bangers

[last nimbus]

i only watched s4

[north relic]

you dont need to watch season 3 to figure out that sparkle xzi and fielder werent in season 1

[last nimbus]

its still a spoiler

bruh

[cedar oasis]

idk man

[last nimbus]

just let it go

[cedar oasis]

could have sworn xzi was in season 1

[north relic]

guys he just spoiled the EQO genji clutch 😭

[cedar oasis]

same with paris

[last nimbus]

(it was a joke)