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He was carried by an incredibly hard pocket
It simply won’t work anymore to hard pocket the main tank like that
fearless 
Mano 
Poor mano
Main tanks fall off the hardest
Bumper mano fissure miro
That guy on the justice
I forgot his name
Roar Janus or Mag?
What about the season after that
when he was on justice he was bottom 5
Yea main tanks fall off hard
muma moment
Was muma ever good
but the top half season one consisted of Mano Gesture Gamsu Fissure Fate and Miro
Muma was above like Chwoosh FiveKing xQc Nomy and debatably Sado at that time
Who is fiveking?
Bumper and fissure we never saw fall off though
Smurf Winston one trick😹👎
They just suddenly vanished from OWL
It says his signature hero is lucio
Wit
Bumpers playstyle would not have worked past goats
And apparently hes a rien one trick
Your saying bumper is not a rien one trick
And was even ok on main support
Yes.
I cant se him playing orisa
Bumper has seen success on rein, winston, orisa, mercy, and I can’t remember if he did on lucio or any dps
Tizi was genuinely a great orisa, that’s not a fair comparison
Bumper wasn’t bad at all on orisa
Tizi was just better
So your saying he wasn't bad but he wasn't good either
So hes a rien one trick
No
The only time you would need him is to play rien
Being average on heroes other than rein is proof he isn’t a rein one trick
A one trick means you can only play one hero
Bumper is actually crazy flexible
He’s average on orisa and winston and has experience on support
Bumper on support that's cursed
Wasn’t it like roshan or smth
Therefore he’s not a one trick
I think bumper played more ms and zarya before goats
^^^
shanghai had a tank named fiveking but idk how many matches he played
He’s insanely flexible
At that point no one is a one trick because everyone can play more then one hero
Runner bumper was the support line before slime twilight
It says hes a support player on liquidpedia
It was roshan
fuck ok guess im dumb
L+fusion fan
I can’t think of an owl one trick off the top of my head
Hes got a lucio skin as a tattoo tho
Chipsa
Chipsas not even an otp
He can play echo
true
And genji tracer
Chipsa is just really bad at all of his heroes
Besides maybe doom
upper mid not high tier
Just ignore people who support paris
The top 12-13 tracers in owl are high tier
And then there’s crazy crackhead tier
No
I think if high tier as A-S
OWL is stacked on tracer
Are you high?
Yes
There’s a sizeable s tier on tracer
And a bigger a tier
Unless i have like a random urge to play contenders again i think im just done with OW, genuinely bores me to death when i play and irl stuff starting again just seems more interesting
300
Who?
I don’t watch much na contenders
Who does
14
very cracked
also how is top 13-14 high tier
literally the definition of mid
you cant put everyone on A tier because they are good its ranked relative to the rest of the league
it exists in your head
ranking is relative to the competition
theres 20 teams
#14 is literally not even mid
granted a couple of teams have 2 tracer players
Yes and you shift the curve up if the position is stacked
It’s still the same distribution
Yes it is, it means they’re cracked at tracer
But it doesn’t mean they’re better than most people
lol you make no sense
every player that made it to the overwatch league is "cracked" relative to the rest of the playerbase
Yea
reality is danteh is mid at the hero that he specialises
Honestly the league has so many tracer players for next season that even mid might be a stretch
Lets name all the tracers we would take over danteh because its just what we do
yaki s tier 😎
Kevster striker
stalk3r
Would you put flora above
hm
probably
venom too
maybe hydron but not sure
sparkle
choisehwan
diya
innovation
carpe
maybe mn3 not too educated on his tracer
probably although
me
decay
aspire maybe
thats probably about it
god damn
22 tracers above him
lowball ~16
I put danteh above diya innovation mn3 although aspire stalk3r flora hydron
But it’s close
damn tell me u dont watch contenders without telling me u dont watch contenders
There’s like no difference between number 6 tracer and number 15 tracer
Alphayi > danteh
What’s the number 6 tracer
you put alphayi above danteh
Take your pick
yet these players are all better than alphayi
curious!
Kevster leave fleta striker proper yaki
There’s 15 of the same tracers in owl
the real answer is we don't know because as always, contenders talent is hard to compare when they don't play against OWL level teams
its not hard to see proper is instantly a top 3 tracer
also we dont even know how OWL level teams will be like because we have literally 0 idea what overwatch 2 is gonna be like or how it's going to play
Did you seriously just put proper and fleta above decay and profit
out of the league
Omegalul
Decay is top 6 objectively
proper is much better than decay
lmao
proper is probably
the best tracer in the league
Get off the acid dude
yeah and what about mag
he is a main tank
Mag insane main tank that will carry justice to gf
Venom decay and striker are all better than proper
or the entirety of the hurricane roster
not to mention the finals he didnt do too well
eu contenders
argument invalid
we know kr contenders finals is owl level at least
like if you put the winner of kr contenders finals
they will at least beat bottom tier owl teams
I mean so will fucking shus money crew
probably better
wrong
hard to say especially when korean contenders teams dont have OWL infrastructure as far as i know
SMC > titans and valiant last year
eu does not compare
Current or s4
any top contenders team > 2021 valiant
Both are looking decent rn
s4
im willing to bet o2 scrims against apac teams on a regular basis
actually they kinda do
Valiant still 8th place apac
if proper was a "fraud" he wouldn't be this hyped up
Belongs to charge
not to mention he was literally smurfing during the contenders finals
literally every prospect coming out of contenders is hyped up
Charge valiant will fight for 7th
that's just how it works
so wrong
Maybe one gets 4th or 5th at peak
for example stalk3r although
also you think venom and decay is better than proper
like all future OWL opinions just invalidated
we don't know.
easily
I do not have faith in the coldest flex support
we just don't know
At all
we do though
you can speculate and theorise and make educated guesses
you guys dont see
you have to look no further than pelican to see how proper will do in owl
but at the end of the day you would not bet your life on proper being immediately SSS tier dps player.
not SSS tier
Pelican > proper imo
Under the Influence
tell me you didnt watch them on o2 without telling me you didnt watch them on o2
alright you want to bet then? you said proper top 3 tracer?
i dont doubt he has the potential to, but it's not something that can be 100% guaranteed.
im that confident tbh
I don't see proper being better than the current top tracers in the league
yaki>decay on tracer btw
so i doubt he'll surpass anyone
Not the best tracer and the league and fucking mvp
in that top 3 spot
Cap
Decay performed better than yaki last year
decay is also a worse player
Facts
He’s not mvp and his best hero is tracer where he’s number 3-4
decay also didnt have oge as a main tank
Decay had mag ball
Mag ball is not ok
mag ball is way better than oge ball lol
Sparkle is weird
its role star not tracerstar 
sparkle's tracer can massively improve
raw mechanics too good
decay wishes he was top 5
sadge
For what
hes like lebron but only with the joining superteams none of the achievements pepelaugh
Everything?
everything
Best bastion player will be profit
dont care didnt ask just do it again
Peak decay is the best player in the league and current decay is low A tier
Counting on somewhere in between
peak decay is nowhere near the best player in the league
when was peak decay
peak decay was one map on rialto
btw
and that peak decay doesn't even beat peak ans and fits
one pretty good map granted
Deadlifting fuel and justice
to what
an early playoff exit
omegalol
look at leave that's what i call a deadlift
and of course not to godmaker diem 
pelican and leave were really trying to not lose this season
true
i still have 0 fucking clue who fusion are gonna sign to fill their roster
no rumors?
and NYXL is looking to be pretty gamer
so i think nyxl can be 4th
nyxl is NA tho
Hangzhou could be 4th if they can do these two things.
Get LiGe to play
Stop changing coaches every stage
they can either get sado or jjangu
and then probably sanguinar
shit thats true
although
alphayi is great
he do be a choker
apr1ta owns him
valiant no roster yet so no sure
nohill = insta top 5
in order for fusion to be 4th they need to just click as a team
like they will either be immediately good or not good at all
is the way i think
cause either carpe fury and aimgod get an up year or it falls apart
I’m buying a boosted account
Fusion'll be fine, probably.
er probably
Fusion’ll be lucky to not be bottom 3 apac
Yeah but I doubt they will be an easy team that rolls over and die to teams like NYXL Hangzhou and Valiant even if they do end up below them
There is an argument for Aimgod > Molly
Not like 2021 valiant or charge
Sado/JJANGGU >>>> Rio
Like I'll be pleasantly surprised if they do really well, but I don't expect them to make Hawaii unless the meta really favors them
Cause I think Seoul and Shanghai will be instalocks for Hawaii spots unless it's a ball meta.
Shanghai yes Seoul no
It would require either of those two teams to really drop the spaghetti for someone else to go
Last year we thought Shock and Glads would pretty much instalock Hawaii each tourney
Who knows what’ll happen
Tobi HC stonks
they might play eachother in the playins
resulting in only 1 of them getting in
and the other thats not suppose to get in lmao
no
hopium
this is the year we rival shanghai
i mean s3 we did knock u guys out in the playoffs mwahaha
Hunters or NYXL could have a really good meta and take 1st
fluke meta
fluke meta
hog meta = real meta
gesture fucked you guys up
so badly
😭
jesus christ that last map tho
2022, ow2, hog becomes meta
like that hook on izayaki
but him retire
haha yeah
^
mad because lip fleta couldnt play hanzo
just like how diem will come out of retirement in 2022 during a hard new hero-that-is-a-sniper-meta and absolutely diff every other team, leading shanghai to a victory in season 5, as well as not dropping a single map in the widowmaker 1v1 all stars tournament
no
don't check lore discussion at 3am
marbel
shush
if i didn't get stuck with moira otps i would have the willpower to get better#
no mentally stable human being plays moira with tracer soldier and orisa and wants to win
my mental is boomed i am going to go play uno
love orisa
Esports discussion drought is nothing compared to lore discussion drought
#workshop-discussion drought
@willow tartan you experiencing a friend's drought
no, earthquake actually
6.6 magnitude earthquake off the coast
it cut out my internet during a ranked game and i lost 50 sr
luckily no tsunami
u good??
Dw bro I’ll let you play dps :))
Ontario Toronto
All the important ED people are EU
eu cringe
By “all the important people” I mean me
Me
No me
shut up virgin
who asked
What platform
u wanna get carried too?
sure
bet
when?
idk man my gf is coming over tonight and i have to work this weekend
i cant get out of play if i dont have money or a gf
Yes
he's german
https://twitter.com/VoiceverseNFT/status/1481534541500420101 yikes L from dva voice actor
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Wtf is a voice nft
When
Humongous L
very yikes
Ok, wtf is this
Actual L
pog
Now
cant
Lame
Sorry my gf is over
How is this an L?
Good for her, she’s making money out of her voice acting talent
Why do you care if it’s an NFT or not if you’re clearly never buying NFTs (which is a dumb move for anyone, btw)
Yikes
Well I guess I can't expect much from a decay fan
But this is beyond owl yikes 😬😬
everyone is always talking about sp9rk1e and Whoru being some of the best genji players but i never seen them mfs do a ghost dash so necros gotta be the best 🤷♂️
428
Yes indeed an L
Sadge
Damn true n'écris is the real goat
Necros*
colourhex best genji
Average Fusion fan before and after January 5th 2022
what happened january 5th 2022
https://twitter.com/Fusion/status/1478758438347833346 https://twitter.com/Fusion/status/1478773296145518595?t=C4EyuYKYOKbewi8y4zLjdA&s=19
Welcome home, friend 😉
Please give a warm welcome to @Furyy_d, returning to us for the #OWL2022 season!
#PhillyPower #FusionCarry https://t.co/yi6jBwvgkH
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God of Flex Support is returning to the League…🤯
Give it up for @aimgod_ow!
#PhillyPower #FusionCarry https://t.co/t7xaHDpkue
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reported for flood
Flood ur mums ovaries
Flood ur dad's ovaries

LJG ain't ever leaving SHD
Thought JJonak wasn’t ever leaving NYXL too
:(
Or Yaki Mayhem
:)
A soul for a Seoul
Also thought Moth Ans and Striker would stay with Shock forever
And Profit on London
Sans shit up
sans shit down
profit leaving london was kinda obvious on s2
after*
ans and striker was the only one im surprised about
moth i wasnt
jjonak i wasnt
now if NYXL was SUCCESSFUL then i wouldnt think jjonak would leave
but ljg why would he leave the best team in owl
True
Although he might leave for the best in Overwatch League soon (Seoul Dynasty)
Profit will be insane next year
ProFits will live up
JJoNak will be the first 2x MVP
Smurf will finally get All Star
Vindaim will win RoTY
Creative will finally get some wins
is that a copy pasta or is it just dink
Dink
Cringe
smurf finally tanke role star
proper probably roty
shock wasnt mid last year they probably wont be mid this year
They had one of the better records in the league but they just couldn’t win important games
They definitely won’t be mid next season tho
Proper is S+++++ on like every hero ever
They just need to avoid putting Viol2t on lucio
Fdgod was pretty bad
Bad playstyle for the team
viol2t fdgod just wasnt it
viol2t was on lucio over fdgod though
Yeah idk honestly
It’s more flexibility mid match
Fdgod has a lucio and a brig
If Viol2t can play an ok lucio then they’d have been good
Because twilight can brig and both can mercy
- they can switch to double fs mid match
put down the crack son
i know levy is a seoul fan but he is putting insane amounts of hopium on nowadays
give it like 2 months and levy will be saying shit like "Profit is the best echo"
Nah
I'm a realist
U guys are actually tripping
Everytime they match up on tracer profit wins by a small margin
Individually he's better
And there's a reason I said tracer
when I watch every apac game this year
Bet
Maybe you'll actually watch APAC games this year
I mean leave and profit were going blow for blow when they played
ONLY on tracer
Profit gets outclassed on echo easily by both I agree
not my fault apac was a shit show last year
when I could predict most matches without watching any
I remember watching avrls stream AVRL: leave sticks some Seoul person and he goes Seoul is in big trouble here they need a miracle and insta spectates profit and badabing badaboom 2 pulse kills
I forgot if they won the fight though
Or was that custa
Nah I think it's avrl
Also does anyone have a link to the Chinese all stars game
Bilibili link or smt
honestly apac was easier to pred i didnt watch any apac other than nyxl
I originally did that
Then NYXL sucked and I got depressed
So I stopped watching APAC and only put it on for tokens
gaga
smurf prob
uhhh
it goes smurf orisa>gaga orisa gaga ball>smurf ball smurf winston>gaga winston smurf rein=gaga rein???
Smurf easily
Heck u, Mano was godly
Better than OGE
smurf every time unless you need a ball otp
fuck no
Is Kevster better than every tracer besides leave fleta lip
yaki > kevster but also i hate kevster so ignore me
honestly i need to rewatch glads games
does the overwatch league replay viewer show regular season matches?
I think those two would play it close assuming all else identical
Smurf. I think gaga might be the better ball but that's about it
OGE was literally better
im best
Doubt
why sir
bettwr than fleta and lip on tracer
factually incorrect
nah
why?
Ur just a kevster hater
yes u are
lip is arguable but fleta is worse mechanicaly and is also a lot less clutch on her than kevster
Also both teams have completly different playstyles
Profit > kevster, end conversation
nobody
Profit is better than fleta mechanically
Who asked
I asked :)
Let him speak!
Shut
non
: )
best tracer in the league?
What's gmt in relevant time
Aka est
It's 3 hours earlier right
gmt is currently 6:14 pm
i feel
maybe if i manage it to 9pm
yeah i could since the movie i am going to watch is a 90 min runtime
better than a no so awesome
5pm
I can definitely then
shit wait its gonna be 4 if levy makes it
Wdym
^^^^^
Levy doesn’t have friends he just doesn’t want to play
Nah honestly you guys should do it at 5
Because my friend's coming at like 3
And idk when he's leaving lmao
But there's a chance he might leave shortly after 5
So I could join after
Ok
okie dokie 5 it is
👌
👉 👌 😳
why do you ask a question with such an obvious conclusion
imagine ian playing with me
because i wanted you to answer it so i can get a OWL tracer skin
oh
easy
shanghai dragons/chengdu hunters
that's your top two picks right there
seoul color scheme >>
you forgot the boston uprising
well i dont have an SHD skin but i have Ga9aBall skin
No bc Gaga Ball is a PE game thats epic
tf is Ameng ball
exactly
not a fun PE game
Yeah, devs released that skin for Echo 'cuz Fleta was so clean with it on launch
Fleta echo skin looks so good
overwatch is harder then i remembered
you might just be bad
Maybe it's your settings
cant be
We're ranking the top 10 main support players of Overwatch 1 on @PlatChatPodcast on Monday. Top 3 is relatively clear, but the rest is chaos.
I spent way too much time on this to the point where I've definitely overthought it. This is going to be a rollercoaster of an episode.
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God I can't wait to see these takes
I can already hear reinforce malding
Fastro was better than Jecse last season
its all time
But even though Fastro is better I wouldn’t put him top 3
Especially not above Boink or Zuppeh
Those three would most likely be my picks
I think if moth had a solid season at glads he'd cement his spot in top 3
he has 2 championships
I wrote it wrong, I meant number 1. For me ljg takes it
Could an argument for tobi/ark be made?
Tobi was only really good before OWL and dropped off to the point where the only hero he was above mid at was mercy
And Ark was on the most consistently good team season 1 and made a name for himself by pocketing the MVP
is ark still playing?
They’re in the conversation for top 10 just not best of all time
Ark retired after season 3
ark was top 3 for one season agter that didnt he fall off hard
carcar best ms
Funny way of spelling “Bani”
idk about anamo
anamo was top 3 for 3 seasons
why cant i name my overwatch groups?
Yeah idk, he didn't look that good to me
Tobi was pretty accomplished pre-owl
He still looked really good in owl, just too bad he didn't win anything
moth/ljg have to be top 2 or plat chat is smoking meth
third could depends on what metric you want to go off of
but I'd probably take astro
Nah Astro sucks
Gotta be Elk
Also gonna set up jackbox
Feel free to join for funnies
ok
Addison
Jackbox Party Pack
sadly cannot rename the game Sansbox Party Pack so we're playing the game named after the glads fan
feel free to join
she is too busy grinding val
yes
fake news
who we waiting for
luigi cannot join because he has work in the morning
jack cannot join because he is busy
who tf is marbel2 and carpe
I am carpe
no ur sans
Mb mb
dw dw
nobody knows
probably in the hopes someone joins her and watches
Watches her feed
it means i am a very important person
Shut up
I mean the vc
Idiot
Uhhh
Are we even starting
The game
idk who we are waiting for
i have exercised pretty much every option there is
everyone else is either busy unconscious or unresponsive
Man
still a couple names i could try
ok
yeah unless we invite outsiders no one else is joining
y'all want yanderedev discord ban speedrunners or twomad viewers in here?
no
that's what i thought
what about fusion fans?
well this was more of a fail than the justice last season
justice got into playoffs
i mean top 10 isnt that bad
compared to their expectations i would say they failed
anyway
would you like to play checkers?
sure
awesome
Play checkers with the computer or with friends in this free, no sign-in required, easy to use, classic Checkers game!
ZDTSD
hang on
Play checkers with the computer or with friends in this free, no sign-in required, easy to use, classic Checkers game!
use that instead
fuck what ahppen
idk
Play checkers with the computer or with friends in this free, no sign-in required, easy to use, classic Checkers game!
try again
im in
awesome
i think you are trapped
what was that
lack of attention thats what
1+ positive elixir trade
gg
wait i could've dragged that out for an extra half hour
longest checkers game ive ever experienced
still fun
yea
wanna play connect 4?
ok
aight lemme get it ready
Connect Four - online game for 2 players. Play Connect Four with your friends or wait for a random opponent.
cool!
Shut the fuck up
free 5$
Did anyone ask
aw yeah i've always wanted $5
Shut the fuck up
when i was a child i would say to my mum "mum can i have $5?
i know dude
lmao
the capitalist fantasy is becoming reality
he dm'd me now
sans you could have won 5 turns ago or are you trolling me
im getting a connect 5 shush
there we go
beautiful
might just get a screenie of that
just say your opponent was luigi tho
but that would make the quality of the achievement minimal
because luigi is an easier opponent than a mentally challenged tadpole
i'll just say it was against a rando
this is such dangerous territory
use ur brain to get out of it
no
aight your call
you win via move order
lmao i was imagining you would just be mindlessly clicking the first row
ngith
best former vancouver player on each
role? excluding the 2019 roster and early 2020
me
Of the na rosters the current one is the strongest they've ever had
yes not even close
the only good player on former teams was shockwave which they got back
and also maybe teru
Dalton hard carry
Shattered, just like my hopes for a title
L
What a let down
My fave clip of alarm https://youtube.com/clip/UgwFcJBe6dNe9jeQkxZ4AaABCQ
15 seconds · Clipped by Jordan Nicholls · Original video "Overwatch League 2021 Season | Summer Showdown Qualifiers | Week 2 Day 1 — East" by Overwatch League
That's a bad omen...
You should replace your mug as soon as possible.
Just like Fusion has been replacing every player with downgrades since season 3
HAHAHAAH
UwU
Ew
Hey that reminds me I've got a few of them too
does anyone have reinforce saying the pasta?
the rascal one?
I cannot believe it. I can NOT fucking believe it. I simply REFUSE to believe the absolute imcompetent, negligence, of actually not, for ANY of these categories whatsoever, not voting for FUCKING Rascal. This guy doesn't get props by anyone, on no one's social media radar whatsoever. Everyone's talking about like "oh Smurf, ya know, Smurf he's-- poor Smurf!" think about Rascal! He literally came into the league at the start of the year, was the BEST Mei. He revolutionized the way you play Echo, and set the guidelines for everyone else in the league for MONTHS! Or pretty much like half the season! And then he comes into the Countdown Cup and plays the Genji, that actually turns the SanFranciscoShockaroundandtheywintheseriesagainstthePhiladelphiaFusion! How is NO ONE, on this PLANET talking about Rascal as one of the most underrated players of the year! It's absolutely... HURTING MY SOUL!
Based
That’s a funny way of spelling “Hydration”
there's a clip of him saying it
dont remember where though
holy shit old plat chat
i dont know if it was like a wild dream of mine but i swear he said it on broadcast in 2021 as a meme
is reinforce's background an mc texture pack
im trying to recollect the archives of my fractured braincells to look for it
I wanna see more people on off roles
super was on support in S1
I wanna see that again in S5
This'll NEVER get old
I was creasing when I watched this episode
DAMN
😭
feelsbad
but on the other hand
this year's roster is way more stacked than prior years
gawd dayum
seoul has a top 3 roster
seoul top 5 possibly top 3
Getting justice flashbacks
i mean there isnt a clear weak spot this time
be quiet paris fan >:(
paris fans are a cancer to society
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