esports-discussion

[earnest leaf]

You'll want kevster on tracer most of the time anyways

But in the case of shit like echo tracer you'll want kevster on echo

[devout path]

Ans can play tracer

[next mesa]

Nah

[devout path]

Yeah

[earnest leaf]

he can, it's just meh

[next mesa]

U would put Kevster on echo

And pati on tracer

Or vice versa

Pati on echo

[north relic]

what does patiphan play

[next mesa]

Kevster on tracer

[devout path]

Oh yeah I forgot that guy left valorant sadge

[next mesa]

He's a hyperflex

[earnest leaf]

I watched pati play echo

don't let him play that in the league

[next mesa]

I trust him

[earnest leaf]

unless he throws 500 hours into her before the league starts

[next mesa]

He's getting the rythm back

[next mesa]

Won't be surprised if he does

He passed glads trisls

While being on a T1 team in valorant

Like just think about how impressive that is

[devout path]

It’s so sad that he left Valorant

[earnest leaf]

I'll just need to see how he does in owl first

Since it has been a while since he played in ow competitively

[noble nexus]

Pati is a grinder tbf it wouldn't be surprising to dump a bunch of time into the game again

[willow tartan]

wouldnt be surprised if he flops but also itd be depressing

[noble nexus]

You’re dumb

[worn falcon]

Pati washed af

Mans gonna burnout before OWL hitting

[willow tartan]

dont need a gf when im married to the grind 💪

[sullen berry]

PatiPAIN

[tropic herald]

cross region rankings, upper tiers are pretty static but bottom two can be shifted around, also swap dallas and seoul lol

[willow tartan]

seoul hypium

[fallen turret]

Philly and charge lower, Titans and mayhem higher

Also swap shock and Dallas

But other than that tiers are solid

[earnest leaf]

Why dallas so low

And chengdu that high

[tropic herald]

Ok so bad

Basically

Jfeel 😍

Dallas tank line split up

[earnest leaf]

I find it hard to not put dallas top 2

[tropic herald]

That’s basically it

[earnest leaf]

Considering they only improved this off season

[tropic herald]

I have a sneaking suspicion that fuel will crack for some reason

That reason? Probably solo tank

It’s just a hunch doe

[earnest leaf]

Could be an issue

[tropic herald]

And I’m willing to get flamed for it

[earnest leaf]

I've said before shd might struggle a bit

They lose out on void doing god's work

[tropic herald]

I am shaky on SHD but I find it really hard to move them at all

[earnest leaf]

Keeping them at #1 is a given

No changes iirc

Besides like 2 coaches and molly

[tropic herald]

They lost some bench players and assistants

[earnest leaf]

It will be interesting to see MTs this year

No more OT covering any weaknesses

[tropic herald]

Some tanks are gonna get exposed

[willow tartan]

inb4 hard dva meta

[tawdry hamlet]

I'd put Vancouver above charge and valiant above justice and spark

[next mesa]

Seoul isn't #2

Damn get a load of this wrong opinion

Shock is just not remotely on glads lvl

Or dallas

Also losing that tank synergy

Is horrible

But at the same time

Put hanbin solo tank I don't worry at all

My man is so fucking good

[pliant trail]

Anybody know a good place for tournaments and scrims and such?

[willow tartan]

#tournaments ?

[earnest leaf]

I wouldn't put a gap very far between the two

People need to remember shock got ninek back

and the last time they got a pretty new team with ninek/crusty coaching, they were insane

if the o2 blast guys are even close to how hyped up they are shock could easily rival glads

[tawdry hamlet]

Proper vs Kevster Super vs Space Violet vs Shu

Da epic battle

Pew pew pew ow noises

[earnest leaf]

Role per role is pretty interesting for shock vs glads

I'd say tank shock edges out since reiner will have to fully prove himself, but I doubt he flops

Support could see a resurgence of viol2t back to his s3 self which would gap shu, and finn can also potentially be nutty to beat out skewed

Proper more than likely will do great, kilo and s9mm imo are the biggest questions

But shock coaching would lead me to believe they'll do well

[tiny pollen]

Shock doesn't have an ot

[earnest leaf]

Don't need one imo

[tiny pollen]

I haven't seen supers so ido

Idk

[earnest leaf]

It won't be bad to the point where it's a detriment to the team

It will be solid enough

And also imo it's better to have him starting regardless to build synergy with all the new players

[mortal abyss]

There’s #lf-scrim-eu and #lf-scrim-na but I can dm you some more servers for scrim finding

[last nimbus]

super is like a free pass to good team synergy

[willow tartan]

when is owl champion skin released?

im want buy my sombra/ball skin

[cedar oasis]

Ball skin

Does anyone actually play ball

[pliant trail]

That'd be great

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/xzi_ow/status/1479776551315320837?s=20

[devout path]

Tweet was deleted

What did it say

[tropic herald]

👀

[willow tartan]

bait?

[plush grail]

👁️

[north relic]

empathy tell us the forbidden information

[vagrant jacinth]

Reveal it to us

[tropic herald]

No that’s literally what it said

[vagrant jacinth]

Lmao

[worn falcon]

xzi to contenders again

[mortal cipher]

Ooh

[next mesa]

The biggest problem here is glads support line is just way more complete if there was gonna be any sort of MS they have a really clear advantage

Proper will NOT flop and his tracer is already top 3 at the very least

But kilo is just so so so far from Ans while having the exact same heropool

s9mm might be better than pati atm though

[little tusk]

in what aspect? kilo >>> ans or other way around

[last nimbus]

i watched pati stream yesterday for a bit and his dps didnt look very intimidating or anything

[little tusk]

ya the boys who grinded ow all day instead of going valorant are gonna be better

[next mesa]

Other way Round

Around*

[little tusk]

really? I thought Kilo was this rising super star

[last nimbus]

kilo's been like top 20 in korea for last 3 seasons

[next mesa]

His hitscan is good

[last nimbus]

but he duos with proper only so idk

[next mesa]

That's ranked

Kilo is a great player

But he's not ans level

Very raw

Basically crusty and ninek

Is gonna try and recreate

Another Ans

[last nimbus]

he doesnt have the experience ofcourse

[next mesa]

And the odds of that succeeding may not be 100%

For example he wasn't the best hitscan on his team

[hot onyx]

Breaking News: Sans regains Fusion copium after realisation that off tank will be useless in 5v5 and watching Aimgod vods from Team CC

[little tusk]

idk watch Ans be washed

[next mesa]

LMAO

Nice

[hot onyx]

Carpe MN3 Sado/JJANGGU Sanguinaar Aimgod sounds like it could be top 1O at least

[little tusk]

top 10 lmao

[hot onyx]

Shut fuck

This is the best I can hope for at this point

[balmy wolf]

[north relic]

Nah fusion pick up changsik

[hot onyx]

lsd

You have Yaki GNJ and Kellan

I have Zest Fury and Aimgod

Don’t take away the little hopium I have given myself

[north relic]

:)

I wouldn’t determine if ot useless yet

[hot onyx]

90% of the time the defensive peel from a main tank is more valuable than the offensive targeting style of off tanks

[plush grail]

[worn falcon]

At least he isnt a paris fan

which is bottom of the barrel

[north relic]

Paris unironically might be #20

[noble nexus]

I think Paris are better than charge atleast

[next mesa]

nah

choisehwan develop eileen

[plush grail]

legit shut the fuck up

all of u

u cant say paris will be #20

u just hate me

on paper, they've got a super solid team

[last nimbus]

yeah i agree

[cedar oasis]

Yea fuck you guys paris is atleast top 10

[noble nexus]

only team that didn't make any huge upgrades lmao

in all likelihood they sidegraded with glister

[plush grail]

they sidegraded

also reminder

when vestola joined

he had 1 block of scrims

but hey still played super well

[last nimbus]

they probably think their team is going to synergize and become gods

[noble nexus]

glister has a higher ceiling than onigod tho tbh

[plush grail]

you are ugly

[noble nexus]

facts

but paris players show ugly, sloppy, disgusting gameplay every match

and I sleep better at night knowing that

[vagrant jacinth]

Lol

[plush grail]

can u join vc real quick so i can scream at u

[vagrant jacinth]

I'm still high on glister, hope he pops off off this season

[noble nexus]

I was super high on glister last season

I thought either he or Shu were going to get mvp

[plush grail]

who

[noble nexus]

Kaansdogshit

[plush grail]

HEY

[north relic]

hey

[noble nexus]

hi

[little tusk]

rip onigod 😦

no team 😭

[plush grail]

shut uo

[slim spruce]

YO

[next mesa]

Paris made like 1 upgrade lol

Half of their wins came from London/titans last year

[last nimbus]

uh

every middle pack won from london and titans

that doesnt say anything

[next mesa]

uh

i said half of their wins

means their schedule was fucking easy

[plush grail]

but they also beat glads and dallas

[north relic]

i would count the dallas win since i count the nyxl win againist shd

[next mesa]

wow

so meaningful

[north relic]

guys should i watch hunters v titans

is it good

[devout path]

When

Season 2?

[north relic]

yea

[devout path]

Yes

Ameng is so chad

[balmy wolf]

yes

[plush grail]

U all suck

[balmy wolf]

yes i will

[cedar oasis]

wait

[north relic]

still waiting

[half rivet]

I’ve been binge watching season 2

Amazing season

[devout path]

Season 2 is great when you can skip over the boring games

[noble nexus]

Season two had huge highs and some pretty big lows in it's matches

[raw ermine]

does a "low" count as good team crushing a bad team, or 2 bad teams playing?

[north relic]

2 bad teams playing are bangers

[next mesa]

Both

[noble nexus]

it depends tbh

mid team vs mid team boring

dogshit team vs dogshit team fun

s2 shock stomping out shitters was usually boring

[north relic]

more people were hyped for bread bowl than gf

[sullen berry]

Season 2 Atlanta vs Guangzhou was peak entertainment

Almost crowned Guangzhou as the team with the biggest losing streak after facing shock and glads with decay/void twice in one stage

Any Hawaiians

[worn falcon]

Toilet bowl

[north relic]

bowl from a toilet

[sullen berry]

Poke bowl, get the theme right

[tawdry hamlet]

Neptuno And Poko and Boombox aren't good and only got overrated by association with philly

[sullen berry]

Team NFTs vs 5 Stars in a video game

and Guxue playing a competent D.Va, really expanding that hero pool of winston and not winston

[plush grail]

u all smell

[cedar oasis]

Luigi stop giving paris fans more enemies

[plush grail]

its a mindgame

u wouldnt understand

[north relic]

mindgame to get everyone to laugh at you when paris loses

[cedar oasis]

paris wont lose

[noble nexus]

you're stupid

[cedar oasis]

that sounds like hoes mad

[north relic]

you''re'e stupid

[hot onyx]

Everybody is stupid

Where is the Fusion news that doesn’t make me want to scalpel my eyeballs out of their sockets?

[cedar oasis]

i dont think anyone is doing fusion news bc alarm died

[north relic]

didnt fusion sign fury aimgod recently

[gusty rampart]

Yes

Fusion will be mid to slightly above

[north relic]

guys addison is streaming you guys should go watch her peak gold zen content

[gusty rampart]

WHOMEGALUL

[north relic]

used to be lily

[gusty rampart]

Ohhhh

[devout path]

hey shut up

[noble nexus]

She's cracked bro stop hating 😤

[vagrant jacinth]

Delusional. To the infirmary with you

[cedar oasis]

i speak the truth

[plush grail]

Hey she's got the zen skin

Kinda cracked

Also I still wanna see a jack vs sans 1v1

[noble nexus]

askers?

[vagrant jacinth]

Stream it

[north relic]

i will sponsor if it happens

[sullen berry]

Name a more committed Paris fan in this server, go on, he's ready to fight his haters

Okay, think fast, your all time favorite player?

[noble nexus]

Luigi's father

[sullen berry]

On what hero

[last nimbus]

doomfist

[north relic]

mario

[gusty rampart]

Saebyeolbe, JJoNak, super, Yaki, and SPACE

[plush grail]

My dad could probably play a pretty good cassidy

[plush grail]

I will throw hands with everyone except Kenobi because let's be real, charge has no chance of beating Paris anyways

[noble nexus]

that's the only team that might be worse than paris lmao

[sullen berry]

That's because you have to qualify, too ☺

[plush grail]

Is it your birthday

[plush grail]

Please stop speaking

[noble nexus]

oh okay

[sullen berry]

Every day is my birthday

[plush grail]

I'm joking please talk

[sullen berry]

[plush grail]

Wow u must be old

[sullen berry]

[plush grail]

What's the charge been up to

Did they make any worthwhile changes

[north relic]

Develop and uh yea

[sullen berry]

Raccoon season

[next mesa]

Charge would slap paris

Huge support line upgrade

And they got an actual hitscan

[sullen berry]

And a unique support line

Is what we deserve

Mandy looked so good we just couldn't keep himfor another year

[north relic]

how is addison still playing ranked

literal crackhead

[noble nexus]

no life :(

[north relic]

oh i have sunday off time to play overwatch for 7 hours

[plush grail]

She's gone insane

Can't imagine what 7 hours of ranked ow can do to a person

I remember bending my mouse after like 4/5 hours

[kind gyro]

https://twitter.com/ChengduHunters/status/1480433745790259204?s=20

Chengdu Hunters (@ChengduHunters)

JIMMY will leave Chengdu Hunters and join our Academy Team Chaser.

JIMMY fought as a Hunter in OWL Season 2021 and never stopped improving himself as an excellent sniper. Wish @JimmyEn_ow all the best in the Contenders arena!

#ChengduZone #LetsGoHunt

Twitter · Jan 10, 2022, 6:58 AM

Jimmy has been demoted the OWL is now unwatchable

[tawdry hamlet]

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pull-cat-snatch-tabby-cat-brown-cat-pull-gif-22680347

https://twitter.com/chengduhunters/status/1480456594441736193?s=21

Chengdu Hunters (@ChengduHunters)

TAROCOOK1E will leave the Chengdu Hunters and becomes the Team Leader of our Academy Team Chaser.

Thank TAROCOOK1E for his previous efforts and wish him to continue to shine whatever he chose to do!

#ChengduZone #LetsGoHunt

Twitter · Jan 10, 2022, 8:28 AM

[tawdry hamlet]

Sign the one guy now plz

Ok Chengdu

[plush grail]

who?

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk one of them dudes in China

Lmao

Mer1t or Aprita or something

Aprita yes

[plush grail]

ameng

did tarocookie even play

i dont remember ever seeing him

[sullen berry]

Tarocook1e joins Team chaser
Also good luck whatever you're doing

Apr1ta/Leave te ultimate Chengdu Hunters dps

[plush grail]

[vagrant jacinth]

I don't think played

[noble nexus]

Outside of Jinmu Leave Chengdu’s dps played a solid like 4 maps istg

[willow tartan]

Just partner Leave with a real dps and he can actually win.

Rest of Chengdu are good.

[north relic]

Once or twice

I feel like jinmu is a chinese sparkle

[next mesa]

apr1ta is coming

jinmu is much worse than sparkle

apr1ta is legit

he has the clutch factor

he's a fucking gamer

he will match leave's presence

[noble nexus]

Jinmu is Chinese sparkle if you’ve never watched a sparkle match and only know his “best heroes” thing off of liquipedia

[random magnet]

man why do they tweet people leaving the real team to drop down to the academy

seems like a bruh

[noble nexus]

Because it’s a roster move…?

[random magnet]

well i mean like shouldn't the academy team tweet out hey this guy is joining us rather than chengdu tweeting this guy is dropping down? getting dropped from the OWL team to the academy team must kinda suck

[noble nexus]

I mean not really

Better than getting dropped from the owl team and not making the academy team

Plus free clout for the academy team if they tweet about it on the main chengdu Twitter

They’d also still have to announce his departure from the main team so better to do it in one tweet

[next mesa]

academy teams are still pretty useful

but only if you're doing well

its hard for it to be sustainable

im pretty sure for chengdu/spark

their players are literally like in the same facility anyway

it wont change that much

[tropic herald]

also wouldnt be surprised if part of this was the players

choice

[next mesa]

eh

really

also u live in canada? lmao

[tropic herald]

in their shoes, they know they probably wont get any play time

[next mesa]

i see

i suppose

[tropic herald]

like leave and aprita, when does someone else come in?

[next mesa]

leave apr1ta covers everything

hypothetically jinmu never even has to play

because leave pharah is also pretty good

and genji

jinmu might be like a better sombra though

[tropic herald]

jinmu just gonna be the guy that comes and plays the silly heroes

[next mesa]

but i wont be surprised if apr1ta has a really good sombra

yeah

but the thing is i wont be surprised if leave takes care of those too

torb/whatever

its literally leave

[noble nexus]

Silly hero specialist should be it’s own like dps category

Like how fdps and hitscan are different

We have fdps hitscan and shs

[fallen turret]

Chengdu goes one of two ways

They either become a title contending team with an especially scary dps line that plays the meta

Or they pull a chengdu and stick with ball/pharmercy

[noble nexus]

Tbf they played stuff outside of ball comps alright

Ga9a is years better than ameng

[random magnet]

Ga9a is the best ball player in OWL simply bc Gaga ball

[next mesa]

nah

[stuck radish]

hadi better

he just had a bad backline bro

[noble nexus]

Talk less please

[balmy wolf]

best tank is shredlock if you have any other opinions dont talk to me

[random magnet]

who is that

[noble nexus]

Oh thank god I don’t need to talk to that person

Shredlock was Vancouver’s MT before changsik

[random magnet]

wow i was gonna guess vancouver randomly

[noble nexus]

I mean they’ve had all the worst MTs

Excluding beast and roar

[stuck radish]

wasnt roar still terrible though

[noble nexus]

Yeah that’s not my point

Roar and beast weren’t on titans but were two of the worst MTs

I meant that they’ve had all the worst MTs excluding those two because those two weren’t Vancouver players

Roar and Beast were both dogshit too tho

[stuck radish]

oh i thought you meant they had those 2 but they werent the worst

idk vancouvers previous rosters mb

[noble nexus]

It’s all good

Roar was on glads in s2 and justice in s3

Beast was on Toronto but was benched a lot

I think

Idk I can’t remember if they played him all that much

[stuck radish]

i dont remember seeing either of them in s3 or 4

[noble nexus]

Neither of them were in the league for S4

[stuck radish]

i wonder why

hmmmmmmm

[noble nexus]

Probably because they were actively working against their teams every time they got played

[stuck radish]

if erster's mei walls were a person

[noble nexus]

And Nero’s every time super locks rein

[stuck radish]

yeah even in ranked

[fallen turret]

Beast was

Toronto played him sometimes, then dropped him like halfway through

[noble nexus]

Oh right

I vaguely recall that

Probably because S4 Toronto was boring as fuck

[fallen turret]

Aspire was the only thing keeping them from being least relevant

Charge gets that honor

[plush grail]

u too

[trail perch]

bro that was the meta

[fallen turret]

Not in may

[trail perch]

They also where a title contending team

Lmao

They tied for the most tournament appearances

got 2nd in 2 tournaments

and placed top 5 in playoffs

and placed 3rd regular season

[balmy wolf]

i wonder how good toronto is gonna do

[fallen turret]

Mid

In NA, nyxl, Houston, glads, Dallas, and Atlanta are all most likely better

[noble nexus]

nyxl houston and atlanta are debatable

also shock are probably better

[balmy wolf]

yay

i want shock to go 40-0 this year

[noble nexus]

they won't

glads >

[next mesa]

gaga is the best ball

mechanically

not very close

[twilit oriole]

NYXL houston Atlanta are very debatable, I still see Toronto doing better

I can’t send my Power rankings thou

[fallen turret]

Fate>>

[next mesa]

nah

i mean its not that close

[twilit oriole]

My power rankings where:
Dallas
Shock
Glads
Toronto
NYXL
Houston
Atlanta
Justice
Paris
Boston
Titans
Florida
Spitfire

[next mesa]

I would put Glads #2 and Atlanta above Houston

and also boston and titans above paris easily

otherwise

👌

[fallen turret]

Florida higher, also what levy said

[next mesa]

I feel like paris and florida are like

idk

i feel like paris might be better

but theres a debate

[noble nexus]

Paris is more proven than Florida and titans atleast

[next mesa]

yeah

[noble nexus]

And spitfire

[next mesa]

spitfire is definitely last

[noble nexus]

Boston probably over Paris too

Striker difference

[next mesa]

Titans on paper is probably better though

than paris

florida like

hydron vs glister is interesting

probably glister

[noble nexus]

On paper it might be but Paris often outperforms expectations

[next mesa]

checkmate vs naga

they got like

2 surprise wins

because their schedule was just so easy

it inflated the w/l

[noble nexus]

To be fair they weren’t supposed to even beat london

[next mesa]

thats fair

[noble nexus]

And they put up a fight sometimes

[tiny pollen]

Florida beats paris

Paris mickey mouse team

Except glister

[north relic]

Florida paris new toilet bowl

[next mesa]

lowkey

london isnt even good enough for toilet bowl

unfortunate

[twilit oriole]

<@&397922982632226816>

[next mesa]

@balmy wolf you're a fucking loser

[noble nexus]

same honestly

[bitter grotto]

ty

[next mesa]

did you know that your dad cries every night in his room

"damn i shouldve fucking pulled out"

sadge!

[noble nexus]

mine also does that

also London is complete fucking garbage

[twilit oriole]

Look at Florida bro

[next mesa]

wait his dad's probably gone

[next mesa]

its not too bad

[twilit oriole]

Florida are the definition of mess

[next mesa]

except the support line

[noble nexus]

florida easily better than london

[next mesa]

majed is good but paired w anamo yikes

[devout path]

They wouldn’t have if they kept their roster at the beginning of the season

[next mesa]

thats true

[north relic]

Levy agreeing with himself

[noble nexus]

Levy trueing himself

[devout path]

People forget how much they upgraded their roster mid season

[noble nexus]

the ego

on this guy

neptuno and ellivote just weren't it tbh

[twilit oriole]

Mfs brought in an OT who got discorded the most

[noble nexus]

their replacements were two of their best players

[north relic]

The alpha threat

[devout path]

Dridro and vestola were massive upgrades

Is dridro still on paris

[twilit oriole]

Why drop onigod?

He was acc good

[devout path]

Glister is better

[plush grail]

Yes

[noble nexus]

glister is probably better

[devout path]

Ok I didn’t ask you

[noble nexus]

but they should've upgraded MT before hitscan

[plush grail]

Shut the fuck up

You're talking about paris

I have to join the conversation

[noble nexus]

Luigi shut the fuck up

useless cunt

[devout path]

Yeah I hope paris fails

[noble nexus]

dumb bitch

me too

[devout path]

I want dridro off the team cuz I don’t want him to fail

[plush grail]

Jack 1v1 me rn

[devout path]

He’s acc good

[plush grail]

Hop on overwatch pussy

[noble nexus]

why're you so obsessed with me 1v1ing various people from this channel

stalker vibes

you have a gf

get over me

[plush grail]

To establish dominance

[noble nexus]

you're a beta male irl

[devout path]

So true

[plush grail]

I'm not

[noble nexus]

built like a coat hanger

[plush grail]

I drink monster energy drinks with fruity colors

[noble nexus]

no one asked

[plush grail]

I asked

[devout path]

Built like a paperclip

[noble nexus]

built like a ziptie

[devout path]

No zipties r strong

Built like a clip on tie

[noble nexus]

zipties aren't strong

[plush grail]

I'm being bullied by the ugliest people in this chat

[noble nexus]

I'm just built different 😤

[devout path]

Stronger than luigi

[devout path]

Sexist

[noble nexus]

factual

[noble nexus]

homophobic

[devout path]

Queerphobic

[plush grail]

???

[noble nexus]

based

[plush grail]

I'm idiotphobic

[noble nexus]

askers?

[plush grail]

I can't be homophobic I have a boyfriend

Right @balmy wolf

[devout path]

You can be homophobic and not straight at the same time

[plush grail]

I know

I'm joking

[balmy wolf]

hey babe

hyd darling

[devout path]

Marbel Luigi is homophobic

[balmy wolf]

i missed u

UwU

[balmy wolf]

WHAT

[noble nexus]

channel got cringe

I'm leaving

[balmy wolf]

WOW

[devout path]

And transphobic and sexist and queerphobic

[balmy wolf]

IM BREAKING UP

HELL NAH

[plush grail]

If being a Paris fans means being homphobic then I guess I am VERY homophobic

[balmy wolf]

[noble nexus]

why is this rando using all caps? lol

[balmy wolf]

someone ping mods

[balmy wolf]

[devout path]

Reported to modmail gg

[balmy wolf]

W

homophobe deleted

[devout path]

@tropic herald luigi is homophobic

[plush grail]

How do I repent for my sins

[balmy wolf]

ggs everyone

[devout path]

Ggs

[balmy wolf]

anyways

Atlanta best team

with best backline

[devout path]

Seoul best team

[balmy wolf]

W

[balmy wolf]

no

[devout path]

Jjonak vindaim simply better

[plush grail]

Seoul fans are legit the worst

Levy is fucking cringe

[balmy wolf]

fax

[devout path]

Ok homophobe

[plush grail]

Shut the fuck up

Accept it

[balmy wolf]

why is this randoms name addison now?

[devout path]

:(

[balmy wolf]

mad confusing

never seen them before

[noble nexus]

hey hey

[plush grail]

Hey that's mean

[noble nexus]

the regulars are talking

stfu

[plush grail]

Shut up jack the humans are talking

Go bark at sans

[noble nexus]

yessir

[plush grail]

I would not be surprised if it turns out jack is a legit furry

[devout path]

Ok homophobe

[noble nexus]

??????

idk you're just a little bit weird tbh Luigi

[plush grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/687796385486995512/888317136966123530/image0.gif

[noble nexus]

not sure what I expected from a homophobe tho

[plush grail]

I'm based

[noble nexus]

stop talking

[devout path]

Luigi biggest homophobe in the server

[plush grail]

To be fair im not that big

I'm like 180 cm and 110kg

[noble nexus]

still the biggest homophobe

[balmy wolf]

how am i not regular

[north relic]

issue of skill

idk how Luigi suddenly became a homophobe

[north relic]

American units pls

[noble nexus]

3ft 400lbs

[willow tartan]

you guys are mentally deranged and that's coming from me

[north relic]

Got it 👍

[balmy wolf]

best tornament last season?

[willow tartan]

june joust ez

[balmy wolf]

i think jube joust

[willow tartan]

best finals of 2021

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[north relic]

jj meta I sleep

[earnest leaf]

May melee was a fun tourney

jj meta was fucking cancer

actual zombie comp

[north relic]

Probably mm for me

[balmy wolf]

love june joust

[noble nexus]

cc haters

[willow tartan]

JJ finals > MM finals > SS finals > CC finals is my order

[noble nexus]

😒

[earnest leaf]

Guess I love may melee because fearless was being a gigachad on winston

and winston is fun

[north relic]

I would swap cc and ss

[willow tartan]

nah

CC two of the best teams decided to take it easy

zzz

[earnest leaf]

cc was a mickey mouse tourney

[willow tartan]

fake tournament

[north relic]

Ur talking about finals though

[noble nexus]

are you not talking about the matches themselves?

[tropic herald]

cc finals were still hype

[noble nexus]

pair of chimps

[tropic herald]

u guys acting like shu on havana isnt something you wont remember

[earnest leaf]

yea but chengdu just cosplayed philly all year long

[north relic]

?

[tropic herald]

the game itself was still entertaining though

was it not

[earnest leaf]

2nd place warlords

[balmy wolf]

june joust had the best matches

[earnest leaf]

it was decent, but watching leave deadlift his shitter team gets boring

[willow tartan]

if we are talking about levels of hypeness then sure

[tropic herald]

if i had to go just wholely off the games

[willow tartan]

but i was talking about how much i enjoyed the matches

[north relic]

I went to sleep when fuel was at 3-1 in jj finals and woke to 4-3

[plush grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918926097314349056/923828821503913984/tenor-1.gif

[tropic herald]

june countdown may summer

[willow tartan]

[tropic herald]

thats my order of finals

i remember jj so clearly

[earnest leaf]

may>countdown>summer>jj

[tropic herald]

down 3-1 sadge then the comeback

[earnest leaf]

summer was just shd stomping, jj was dogshit meta

[tropic herald]

fearless swapping hog

[earnest leaf]

cc and mm had decent competition and fun matches

[willow tartan]

leejaegon dropping beats peak panic

favorite matches of the year outside of stage finals was dragons vs philly knockouts MM, valiant vs fusion JJ, spitfire vs shock SS, and dragons bullying shock in playoffs

oh, and the carbohydrate cup

[tropic herald]

i liked all the glads v atlanta match

solid rivalry

[north relic]

valiant v fusion was the funniest shit ive ever seen

i also liked the chadmate match

[willow tartan]

that was also incredibly humorous

[willow tartan]

i liked seeing who would choke more map fives, nyxl, fusion or glads

[noble nexus]

dpei took over comms for map fives

leave my team alone

[north relic]

im pretty sure fusion lost every map 5 they played this season

[noble nexus]

a little bit sad

[vagrant jacinth]

F

[north relic]

bro addison is back on the ranked grind

offseason does things to people

[willow tartan]

i want to get flyers advertising the shanghai dragons and hand them out on the street

[north relic]

you do you

dont blame me if you get arrested tho

[plush grail]

why tf would someone get arrested for handing out flyers

@north relic touch grass

[north relic]

fuck you

[north relic]

idk someone might see memeicus and call the police

[plush grail]

fair

he prolly looks like a ogre

[gusty rampart]

Fusion mostly. NYXL this year never made map 5 usually LMAO

Glads usually won map 5s

[noble nexus]

only if the map 5 was havana

:(

[gusty rampart]

"The Havana Incidents"

[balmy wolf]

shock with havana is not a good mix sometimes

especally map 5's

[tacit skiff]

is it true that Molf1g was promised a 2nd opportunity to scrim for London and see if he could still make the team like Hadi but was never given that opportunity?

cause if so, that's criminal

[noble nexus]

according to him ya

even if he wasn't promised the opportunity

London are mad dumb for that

because it wouldn't surprise me if molf1g ended up being better than Poko

[next mesa]

yeah

i mean i sort of understand that they had the whole year to decide if they still wanted him or not

a trial wont change much

it was stupid to sign poko without trials though

[tiny pollen]

poko had trials

on london

poko didnt have trials on paris

and molf1g is mickey mouse 🐭

[last nimbus]

i understand why london wants to go a different direction

but yeah giving hadi a chance and molf1g not thats just rough

[sullen berry]

If it was 6v6 or two tanks required maybe they would reconsider instead of poko

But man, how much of an upgrade is it for Spitfire?

Anyways here is a video https://youtu.be/9nxUwJQ-3U0

https://youtu.be/GbpTu3cOen0

[tiny pollen]

Massive upgrade

From mickeyf1g 🐭

I think London is def not gonna be the worst team this year

Good tankline

Good dps line

Idk about the supports tbh

Def beats paris and Guangzhou

[next mesa]

🤡🤡 easily worst team in the league

Why is that even a debate

Charges dps alone gaps the fuck out of london

Not to mention London's tanks are fucking dogshit

[tiny pollen]

paris fan sadly

[next mesa]

Nah I'm just not mentally incapable😬😬

[noble nexus]

I’m not even close to a Paris fan but if you actively support London and think they’re not the worst team in the league you need to go back to school or something idk

[north relic]

Where would you put London if they played s4

[noble nexus]

Current London?

[north relic]

Yea

[noble nexus]

The exact same place lmao

[north relic]

Idk they might beat charge

[noble nexus]

Except maybe take a few more maps

Yeah they’d probably beat charge a few times

[next mesa]

They would get shit stomp by charge

[noble nexus]

Charge last season?

[next mesa]

Choisehwan is an A tier flex

This season

Even last season they would

Their support line are equally bad

[noble nexus]

You’re dumb idk

[next mesa]

Cr0ng is way better than molfig

Rio is way better than hadi

[noble nexus]

I don’t think anyone can be as dogshit as their support line last season

[next mesa]

Choi and Eileen shitstomps London by themselves

[north relic]

Titans valiant would like to contact you

[next mesa]

London was

[noble nexus]

Also we’re arguing s5 London vs S4 charge

[next mesa]

So was yes valiant

[noble nexus]

Not S4 vs S4

[next mesa]

They still beat them

Do people actually forget how good choi is

Dude his competition is blasé

Hello

[noble nexus]

Nah I just don’t think him and cr0ng can carry

[next mesa]

Not close

[noble nexus]

Yo are you dumb

S5 London vs S4 charge

You ape

[next mesa]

Ok

So?

[noble nexus]

No one is talking about blase

[plush grail]

Apes

[noble nexus]

That guy is bootycheeks we know

[next mesa]

That's not even my point

[north relic]

Monkies

[next mesa]

Choi bodies the whole lobby

[noble nexus]

Luigi the men are talking shut up

[next mesa]

And eileen

Not close

[noble nexus]

Kariv Mandu would just find more ledges to jump off

Duh

[plush grail]

Aren't u like 16

[noble nexus]

17 but go off

[plush grail]

Alzo levy

FUCK Eileen

[noble nexus]

Alzo

[north relic]

is that some kind of disease

[next mesa]

Choi needs no support 1v6ing the entire London roster

[plush grail]

Choi retired

[noble nexus]

You’re stupid

[plush grail]

You're 17

[noble nexus]

Also idk I just don’t think he could carry kariv mandu hard enough against London

They were so bad

And I although London has a super shitty support line too

I don’t think it’s worse than charge’s was

[plush grail]

What's the London roster rn

[noble nexus]

Your mother and I

[plush grail]

Big words for someone who can't even buy alcohol

[noble nexus]

I don’t need to buy alcohol you chimp

[plush grail]

This chat is the reason why I drink

[noble nexus]

Leave the server then please

Also drinking fucking sucks

[plush grail]

I will

It doesn't

[north relic]

wdym drinking water is great

[noble nexus]

Not even

[plush grail]

Ur just a pussy

[noble nexus]

Your father didn’t seem to agree

Idk….

[plush grail]

What

[noble nexus]

Huh?

Anyways

Paris bottom 3 anyone?

[earnest leaf]

Assuming hadi doesn't turbo feed with better supports, paris will probably be worse this year

[next mesa]

this year?

idk

they were not close at all last year

[noble nexus]

What pieces do London have that are better than Paris’?

[next mesa]

ik backbone is pretty cracked

[earnest leaf]

really only brightspots on paris is kaan/glister/naga

[next mesa]

thats literally

half of their roster

and the only brightspot on london is shax

literally just shax

[earnest leaf]

I was trying to be nice

But I always fall back to paris got 4 actual mickey mouse wins last year

[next mesa]

that I agree on

[earnest leaf]

So if the teams they face this year aren't literal bottom feeders they might struggle a lot more

[next mesa]

but you also have to see that they had some decent fights against decent teams

[noble nexus]

Vestola and Dridro are also better than their London counterparts

[next mesa]

and london was literal bottom feeder

[next mesa]

agree

[earnest leaf]

idc about vestola

Daan will be playing most of the time

[next mesa]

u dont know that honestly

[earnest leaf]

Yes I do

[next mesa]

maybe vestola permastarts

[north relic]

he is a paris coach

[next mesa]

nah

yes he has inside source

[earnest leaf]

I would bet money Main tank players start significantly more next season

[noble nexus]

Nah they’re an ow2 dev

[north relic]

yo i bet one penny

[noble nexus]

Gonna buff rein and ball

[earnest leaf]

I would bet $50 by the end of the season main tanks start more than OT players through ought the league

[north relic]

what do you mean by significant? 60%, 70%?

[next mesa]

no shit

[earnest leaf]

Probably upwards of 70%-80%

[next mesa]

but you're saying like vestola is a nonfactor

[earnest leaf]

I don't put much stock into OT comparisons between teams for 5v5

Because an OT player isn't going to be a factor most of the time

[next mesa]

i mean

by ur logic

daan is still better than hadi

[earnest leaf]

Not by much

[next mesa]

so i dont understand ur argument for london>paris

alright? I mean

and the other roles by more

london is worse in every role

[noble nexus]

The only hero London is better on is probably tracer lmao

And that’s assuming shax goes back to old form

[next mesa]

Backbone might turned out to be really good

But

I'd still take Paris over them easily

[earnest leaf]

shax won't have an afk support line

Also london won't be using hybrid and have sparkr all year

[next mesa]

You exaggerate

Shax individually was also really awful at times surprisingly

Like on tracer

But I don't put much stonks

His mental was probably super boomed

[earnest leaf]

Dps can look miserable when their team is awful

[noble nexus]

There were some points he looked good in

[next mesa]

They can also look really good

[noble nexus]

And then a map later hes dogshit

[next mesa]

Ie shockwave

[north relic]

le yaki

[earnest leaf]

They can but really only on pop off heroes like widow and shit

where they click 4 times and win a fight

[next mesa]

Echo tracer

Easily

Too

[earnest leaf]

echo is harder and tracer can pop off too

but shit like hard hitscan can do it more easily

It's how decay ended up getting hard overrated

[next mesa]

Shax is technically also a hitscan

[earnest leaf]

Few pop off series on widow vs bottom feeder teams and playing an entirely different role rolling over mid tims = best dps

[next mesa]

?

[vagrant cargo]

Paris should dick london

better coaching, better dps except tracer and better backline

id give London MT thats it and even then vestola will hopefuly permastart

[next mesa]

thank u

NTB

common sense in ed

wow

rare W

[willow tartan]

wym. everything i say is common sense

[worn falcon]

London is definitely superior, than paris wdym

[tropic herald]

no

[earnest leaf]

No matter who is better, the gap will be small

[gusty rampart]

Paris only major upgrade was Poko

The rest are holy mid

[vagrant cargo]

thats false

London did pretty big step ups on every position

id actually argue poko isnt even much better than molf

poko didnt even trial appereantly

[tawdry hamlet]

Poko wasn't an upgrade for London, provide was barely an upgrade, shax sparkr and whomegalul are B tier at their peak, and Hadi is pepega

Paris is easily better

At every role

Glister vestola Kaan will dumpster shax poko provide

[brave mural]

Havent played ow or watched OWL since 2018 september. What has changed? Anyone got a big recap?

[tropic herald]

ok so basically

shock won two seasons in a row

shanghai won the last one

some other notable teams are dallas chengdu and glads

shock as well

[next mesa]

Don't forget

The Seoul zone

Consistently slightly above average baby

https://c.tenor.com/g9I23ev4eGgAAAAM/emmy-amy-poehler.gif

Yes baby let's go

[worn falcon]

I don't, tobi needs to crack a pipe and go full big brain to manage it

[next mesa]

U fool

Underestimating godly roster on paper

And we don't have trouble character aka decay

Their zen brig will actually be one of the best

In the league

[gusty rampart]

Seoul will be amazing

I actually can't wait to watch them

Unironically going to stay up til 5 am to watch them

[worn falcon]

I dont, I'll just watch the recap

[gusty rampart]

I watch the encore sometimes

I usually just put it on for tokens LOL

Mayhem used to be good

[earnest leaf]

why does everyone think poko is actually f tier now

I know he didn't play in owl for a year but still, doubt he fell off that hard

[tiny pollen]

He literally trialed for London and made it

Ppl are haters for no reason

[devout path]

It’s not like there’s much competition

[tiny pollen]

Vestola

And vestola

And vestola

And vestola

👍

[sullen berry]

Listening to an older ep of tactical crouch - and I gotta ask, how would you rate the OWL content on r/overwatch?

[vagrant cargo]

he was B on fusion

looking like a B tier ot on a Worldclass team is hard to achieve

[earnest leaf]

Yea he was never bad

Nothing special, just a solid B tier player

[tawdry hamlet]

Because vestola better better better better

But if he isn't f tier name off tanks in the league he's better than

[earnest leaf]

Poko has a solid sigma/dva which is why I think he's at least B tier

A lot of off tanks generally are super good at one or the other

[plush grail]

poko is kinda mid

[tawdry hamlet]

I wanna see a sugarfree vs Hydron tracer 1v1 duel

[plush grail]

@tropic herald can we do a #esports-discussion movie night but instead of a movie we just watch this 4x https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwmWx94iJyY

[vagrant jacinth]

Was literally watching this the other day

S1 was something else

[plush grail]

peak owl

but tbh owl and artists do not mix

maybe some dj

[willow tartan]

I think it would be more received if they made meme songs

EZ4ENCE is a giga banger

[plush grail]

who

[willow tartan]

think it was the verkkars or something

dk how 2 spell it

[plush grail]

just get some rapper

[willow tartan]

honestly i was hoping that when we heard about in person playoffs that they'd play the intro music before the match

but that's because that song is made of hypium

[plush grail]

they got metallica for blizzcon

but like what artist

would want to do stuff with blizzard rn

[willow tartan]

any that need a paycheque

[plush grail]

yeah but that just damages your career

[willow tartan]

no

cuz if you're not very well known, it'll bring publicity

[plush grail]

yeah but

if they're not very well known

nobody is gonna care

[willow tartan]

who the fuck cares if they're well known

if its good music its good music

[plush grail]

get kanye west

[hot onyx]

Travis Scott