Literally budget Luigi
#esports-discussion
hot onyx
noble nexus
Yeah Uvalo is allegedly not an Atlanta fan
plush grail
Uvalo is my child
noble nexus
Fucked up genes
hot onyx
Fucked up genes
I’ll say
north relic
did you pay them off
noble nexus
Had to log in to his alt rq
hot onyx
@knotty osprey
plush grail
She knows about this chat
And she knows that you all mald when I mention her
It's amazing
north relic
does she know you spend more time with us than her
noble nexus
Tell her I’m sorry
plush grail
No you're the local spark fan
hot onyx
Spark is literally like #11 on the order of teams I support tf you saying womanless brainmush?
plush grail
You have long hair 
north relic
what
raw ermine
y'all are a bunch of 🤡
hot onyx
What a chad
thank u bb ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜❣️💞💖♥️
plush grail
Exact opposite of u
noble nexus
True tbh
plush grail
I'm gonna sleep, I love u all and don't forget, daan > hadi
Don't listen to anyone else
noble nexus
Stop talking
noble nexus
Nah he’s just calling us all spark fans because it’s super insulting to insinuate that we’d support such a shit team
trail perch
:(
plush grail
Nah he’s just calling us all spark fans because it’s super insulting to insinuat...
this
tawdry hamlet
Fury is washed
And having an equally as mid backline is gonna do him no favors
Gargoyle better plus ratio plus you're a spark fan
noble nexus
It’ll do him more favours than closer Bebe did so hey it is what it is
noble nexus
Haha funny experimental changes that won’t make it into live go brrr
north relic
Moira’s and cassidys changes are the only ones that make a difference imo
sullen berry
Cassidy is the best quality of life changed since genji could double jump
There's been a lot of reasons to make roll unrealistic but practical for engaging from high ground
hot onyx
Gargoyle better plus ratio plus you're a spark fan
Hotba Kalios Vestola Clestyn Max and Cr0ng better as well
willow tartan
the rein change is also going to make a difference
cause now more people in my ranked games will try to force reinhardt on shit rein maps
sullen berry
If cassidy cant roll out of as he's dynamite then it's never going to be accurate
willow tartan
Moira’s and cassidys changes are the only ones that make a difference imo
god, the moira rollouts into dmg orb + coal
hot onyx
Yeah, fuckin’ abysmal but I prefer dumb changes over no changes
willow tartan
I dont.
hot onyx
Buffs > nerfs
willow tartan
wtf why would you want this
north relic
Then depressing
willow tartan
and if the OW team is going to stick with their patch release schedule
we're stuck with this for a whole competitive season
hot onyx
To show that Blizzard are willing to patch OW1 while developing 2 and prove that they care instead of leaving 1 to die in the ground
To make room for 2
north relic
I would take dumb changes anyday
willow tartan
How high is it
its like 5m
north relic
its like 5m
Give me a reference
Like can you jump to hanamura window when attacking 1st point
hot onyx
Give me a reference
Balcony 1st point Hollywood
willow tartan
there's a balcony on hollywood?
north relic
there's a balcony on hollywood?
1st point
hot onyx
Yeah by the chokepoint
north relic
It’s the high ground perfectly seeing the choke
hot onyx
Where you see ashe cree cass and soldiers camp in ranked
willow tartan
thats not what a balcony is though
north relic
Where bronze reins hold
north relic
That fade jump should make most highgrounds
willow tartan
you can go from point to middle high ground on hanamura 2nd
north relic
Yea
willow tartan
the only changes i like are the cree and torb ones
north relic
I saw one Reddit post about Cassidy roll before
Should be pretty useful
I don’t mind the Moira ones if it doesn’t make people troll
hot onyx
With enough cooldowns (if you wanted to) she could make it to the high ground on Anubis 2nd
north relic
With enough cooldowns (if you wanted to) she could make it to the high ground on...
Maybe take the slanted wall were dooms rollout
Wonder if it works in conjunction with that
willow tartan
probably
hot onyx
That’d be funny
willow tartan
cause a regular fade jump + this new update = pretty fkn high
hot onyx
I’d love to continue debating the new patch but it is 2:26 am and I need to be awake at 9
willow tartan
gn
hot onyx
gn non fusion fans that know the experience of happiness
north relic
Same except it’s 10 and I need to be awake at 6
hot onyx
Lucky you get 7 1/2 hours and I get 6 1/2
Maybe I can dream about falling asleep in my dream so I get twice as much sleep
Big brain
🧠💤
next mesa
I dont.
I don't either
"let's decline the quality of our already dying game even more poggersss"
earnest leaf
None of these changes make reasonable impacts into the meta and balance of the game
We get no changes for almost half a fucking year and the second blizzard gives us any balance changes, people cry and want it all reverted
like ?????
tropic herald
they didnt touch echo
they buffed hanzo
did the cass change go through
if it did
lol
earnest leaf
yes
devout path
they buffed hanzo
Mad cuz bad
earnest leaf
oh no, the least mobile dps hero gets a small buff for movement
tropic herald
cass did not need it
honestly im mostly mad about echo being untouched another patch
earnest leaf
doesn't hurt to give it to him, nice qol change
Echo get shit on by any hitscan or OT with half a functioning brain
stuck radish
sucks for me bc knocking mccree into the air was a big part of securing a kill on him
devout path
Echo get shit on by any hitscan or OT with half a functioning brain
This is just not true
earnest leaf
The amount of effort and care I need to put in playing echo when one person on the other team looks at me occasionally on hitscan is insane
the only time echo becomes actually oppressive is with a mercy pocket
And that's more a knock on mercy's balance
fallen turret
The problem with mercy is her blue beam is broken but if you nerf it she’s useless
sullen berry
honestly im mostly mad about echo being untouched another patch
Wish I could put Tracer ashe or genji onto this list of unchanged heroes two patches before OWL
sullen berry
Echo overturned, seeing as she can do plenty with duplicate without punishment if used incorrectly
earnest leaf
Echo is imo, decently balanced
they already nerfed the two biggest complaints about her, the beam and ult
Doing any more is just gonna make the hero feel like dogshit
and her stickies got nerfed
stuck radish
trueing
oh yeah i didnt say it here
rein can shatter through shields now if hes close enough
update: it also goes through zarya bubble if close enough
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rein can shatter through shields now if hes close enough
lol literally fucked the most interesting part of rein play
the mind games
stuck radish
yep
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test
stuck radish
test 2
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i thought my wifi gged
earnest leaf
niche ass scenario where that shatter lands tbh
I'm just amazed people are upset we finally got some changes
after 5 months
stuck radish
we want changes but not changes that deliberately make the game feel worse to play
willow tartan
the patch did not address the two main hinderances in my gameplay experience
the prevalence of pharmercy and roadhog
and instead adds bad shit
therefore, it is a bad patch
we can want changes and not want bad changes at the same time
earnest leaf
None of these changes make the game worse to play
stuck radish
wym bro hanzo can ricochet storm arrows off walls
doesnt that add to your gameplay experience
earnest leaf
I would bet money people are going to forget about this patch in a week
mf that ricochet shit isn't going to do much
people unironically have ptsd from scatter
so any resemblance of it makes them think scatter is back
willow tartan
feel like someone at ow hq just thought it would be funny to fuck with the players
new season, no announcement
someone in ranked malds over randomly dying to an earth shatter or a superjumping moira
then finds out its a new patch
next mesa
Why would you want changes that are literally shit
I don't understand
"bad and gimmicky changes are still better than no changes" what the fuck no they're not
Close proximity shatters happen all the time
tiny pollen
trash changes only remove fun from the game
next mesa
There's a much wider range of forgiveness on the rein mind games now
tiny pollen
looks like im going to land shatters now 😎
earnest leaf
these aren't even bad changes
earnest leaf
No you're being a brain rotted chimp
next mesa
For example
Why did they buff torb
No you're just not seeing the truth
Just not based
earnest leaf
torb change is a miniscule buff
next mesa
It's still a buff
earnest leaf
His m1 is still better than his shotgun even up close most of the time
next mesa
Btw allows the shotgun to the used 33% more
earnest leaf
It's as redundant as giving mercy 1 more hps on her beam
next mesa
The shotgun is supposed to have a fan the hammer ish effect
The point is torb was already really good
And then they buffed him lmao
earnest leaf
The buff he received will have zero impact on his overall power
What makes torb so fucking strong is his zero fall off m1, overload, and insane ult charge rate
Not his shotgun
next mesa
And now the shotgun will be used too
next mesa
And now the hero itself will be even stronger
Nah I'd say 89
But the point is
Why are they doing that
earnest leaf
No it's actually pretty meaningless
earnest leaf
You can keep saying "it's a buff, it makes him stronger"
But that doesn't mean it's meaningful
next mesa
Was one of the shittiest
It was useless
Except like u said
That 1%
And now say
Oh nice
Now it'll be better than the m1
In 2%
Of the cases
My point is
What's the point
Of this?
earnest leaf
The amount of times I use my right click, I use it no more than 3 times
next mesa
The game isn't going in the right direction
earnest leaf
You aren't spamming it
Would you rather we sit with our thumbs up our asses waiting another 5 months for literally any change
earnest leaf
Or do you want them to drop massive fucking balance changes before they change the game entirely
next mesa
Left in your ammo
earnest leaf
I play torb a good amount, ammo has never been an issue
next mesa
I want them to make actual positive changes
balmy wolf
cringe chat
next mesa
This is a net négative
earnest leaf
this is a neutral patch
Doesn't hurt or make anything better
just a few little gimmicks
next mesa
You can say it has little impact it's still a net negative
Like imagine waiting 5 months
And you get this tiny patch
No developer notes
earnest leaf
K see you in two weeks when everyone completely forgets torb can right click a little more
next mesa
With changes that addresses nothing
K see you when storm arrow bounce actually finds uses
earnest leaf
Can't wait to see the one noobhunter clip of a random killfrom it
And yes, I also want more meaningful patches
I want damage boosts to get fucking gutted
next mesa
Just nerfed
But wouldn't you rather have for example
That small damage boost nerf
Small immo/bap nerf
Just something that indicates
Hey we see you
These problems that everyone in t500 has been collectively saying for months
But no
Yo LET'S put
earnest leaf
T500 players opinion's are worthless
earnest leaf
That's not even a bad change
gives a character that gets hard fucking shafted by any dive, something to maybe do
next mesa
He's supposed to get hard shafted by dive
Why do you think zen is so strong
He's supposed to get hard shafted but brig says hi
earnest leaf
because discord orb is incredibly broken
next mesa
That's like saying give zen a dash cuz he gets hard shafted by dive
Discord orb is obviously strong
But you know why it's oppressive
Because it's always there
earnest leaf
roll in air is nothing close to a dash
mf gets to roll 5 feet in one direction
that's it
not like he gets a whole tracer blink
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Alr
That's like giving zen a little fart cloud
A shittier Hanzo leap
Dude it still helps and defies the hero's role no matter how small
earnest leaf
All i'll say
is the air roll sounds bad on paper
but I would bet in practice, it really doesn't do much
But let you get to a couple new places
next mesa
Yeah but that's like my point
Wow McCree get go on a few more highgrounds
It won't impact his strength that much
Obviously
But it's just a tiny miniscule buff that's in the wrong direction
earnest leaf
ended up being barely seen majority of the time
tiny pollen
dva remech is horrible change
tiny pollen
why do i have to respect baby dva
next mesa
Think bro
earnest leaf
I've literally died to a re-mech once since that change
tiny pollen
thats the drawback
next mesa
I've literally died to a re-mech once since that change
And you wouldn't have
If it wasn't for the change
earnest leaf
I got a little salty for about 10 seconds then stopped caring
next mesa
Yeah alright
But now you died to void
3k
In that tiny room
On
Fuck i forgot the map the escort one
There's literally like 20 remech kills this season probably at least
earnest leaf
oh no void got a silly highlight against a shitter team
next mesa
It's just a stupid gimmicky mechanic
Unhealthy for the game
Bad direction
Situation could've been different too
Or imagine just playing ur rank up game to GM in overtime and you die to this shit
Or in grand finals map 7
Why have the possibility of it happening
Why is it even in the game
In the first place
Unnecessary
Stupid
Change
tiny pollen
stop spitting please
earnest leaf
If you're worried about a incredibly small chance of a some weird shit happening you might as well bubble wrap the game and make it 4v4 solider only with no abilities
next mesa
Wrong mentality
Because dying to a 1080 degree widow headshot
Small chance of happening
However
Not a stupid mechanic that's bad for the game
earnest leaf
You're blowing it way out of proportion
no one is going to care about these changes in a week
next mesa
Wow
That sounds like what u said about dva
But every single time
Someone dies to that shit mechanic
It hurts the game
Very very little harm
But it adds up now imagine you add another one
Y would you add net negatives
crisp condor
Fuck i forgot the map the escort one
It’s dorado
willow tartan
I just don't see a patch like this as negative
It's a negative because it removed all my replays for no gain.
plush grail
Oh no his inting Lucio replays
willow tartan
its not inting if i get kills
noble nexus
Shanghai fan lol
light cliff
It’s a good team lol
north relic
Who cares nyxl news in 3.5 hours
plush grail
fuck nyxl
light cliff
Nah nyxl is based
plush grail
no
noble nexus
Wrong
noble nexus
What
plush grail
hey babe @balmy wolf
plush grail
no
plush grail
i miss onigod
noble nexus
Said no one ever
hot onyx
I miss Onigod being benched by Tsuna on the last map of the season
noble nexus
Same tbh
north relic
New ny roster just dropped
Let’s go
gusty rampart
NYXL IS IN NA LETS FUCKING GO
north relic
wait theyre playing in na
Wait nyxl in NA?
gusty rampart
Yes
stuck radish
finally the team name makes sense
gusty rampart
Boys I'm a NY fan again
craggy moat
whats the current discussion?
noble nexus
Your mother
craggy moat
ah
devout path
Interesting roster
devout path
i can finally watch jj without waking up at 3am
No you can’t
craggy moat
for nyxl?
devout path
Jjonak is on Seoul
devout path
A while ago
noble nexus
Like ages ago
craggy moat
i never got the news ig
devout path
Way back when Seoul announced their roster of smurf profit fits jjonak vindaim
noble nexus
It’s ok you’re out of the loop you thought justice’s support line last season was good
noble nexus
I saw your name and mentioned it
Acting like I toss and turn over your dogshit takes
craggy moat
its a personal opinion ig
noble nexus
its a personal opinion ig
devout path
Like who is gonna play mercy or lucio
craggy moat
Like who is gonna play mercy or lucio
hold on lemme look at the lineup
devout path
I don’t like only having one tank either
craggy moat
Like who is gonna play mercy or lucio
there wont be
probably rely off a bap ana brig zen
gusty rampart
no gargoyle
They should pickup Gargoyle 100%
next mesa
this obviously means seoul picked up gargoyle
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next mesa
Honestly won't be surprised if NYXL picks Gargoyle
yeah i mean thats what i thought
the move 100% makes sense
lost thicket
sullen berry
worth the wait, every time
now that they no longer have JJonak as their star flex player, Gangnamjin and Myungbong will fit that title really well with fresh players around him
mental vine
true questions are can they beat the reassembled Shock (they have more than half of the korean contender champs) and can they beat ans now that he switched to gladiators XD and houston outlaws and the good NA teams now that they are in NA
devout path
Can they beat Dallas shock or glads?
Probably not
Can they get close?
Maybe
Can they compete with Atlanta for 4th? Maybe
I kinda wanna make a power ranking rn
tacit skiff
Boston beats all not even a question sadly
mental vine
ikr? now that people are saying the NYXL roster is STACKED im not sure how it will translate to the actual pre-OW2 alpha season
next mesa
why is shock on the same level
devout path
Shock isn’t that bad
devout path
I’d say shock is the worst top tier team
mental vine
yea shock isnt that bad, literally they grabbed more than half of the recent korean contenders champs recently
mental vine
exactly
next mesa
mer1t>kilo
mental vine
half of the champion roster
obviously shock needs korean carry at this point, they have no ans, no moth, no striker, no smurf, no choi, etc. they have to bring fresh korean roster to continue dominate
next mesa
half of the korean contenders champ is great
dont think they are at the lvl of dallas though not even close
and glads
shock is probably
devout path
Worst top tier team
mental vine
hopefully this NEW nyxl will be in the even playing field as dallas
next mesa
although im not sure kellan is better than super
devout path
I think 5th can be argued rn by shock nyxl or Atlanta
mental vine
I think 5th can be argued rn by shock nyxl or Atlanta
i mean now u mentioned it there are open possiblities for NYXL to be in playoffs now that they are in NA
mental vine
for sure because playoff threshold in na is larger
next mesa
or something
mental vine
larger than APAC
oh boy i cant wait for the dragons vs seoul in apac honestly those two teams are favorites
in APAC
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Last time they faced nyxl won
sandbagging
noble nexus
Bozo nyxl fans aren’t gonna shut up about this one for a while 🙄
No one cares just give us some Paris news
mental vine
Nyxl upsets shd in the gf
thats when the shd are not in their A-game if they were in their A-game they would clap NYXL
gusty rampart
NYXL looks way better tho
2 main problems are something a lot of teams have
No MS or OT
north relic
thats when the shd are not in their A-game if they were in their A-game they wou...
Cope
mental vine
better than dallas, shock, reign, glads, outlaws? @gusty rampart
gusty rampart
Maybe better than Reign
devout path
Nyxl looks better than last season
gusty rampart
No shit
devout path
Better than outlaws
next mesa
why did you sneak outlaws in there lmao
mental vine
yes they do because they didnt bring contenders talent
gusty rampart
Better than outlaws
Nope
next mesa
like they are remotely on the same level
mental vine
why did you sneak outlaws in there lmao
pelican
devout path
Outlaws don’t even have a hitscan
next mesa
Pelican>Yaki sadly
thats 1 role
outlaws literally have half of their rosters vacant
kai>flora
but not by much
flora is also more flexible
gusty rampart
Flora could be better
next mesa
also true
devout path
Flora has a bigger hero pool
gusty rampart
Better on Ashe imo
mental vine
i mean flora is the most progressive flex dps
devout path
Flora is a hitscan
mental vine
like flora got iffy but at the end he did well
he is like an exponential progressive player
gusty rampart
He popped the fuck off at the end
devout path
Better on Ashe imo
Kai is better on all hard hitscans
mental vine
his progress is like an exponential curve
waiting for a video of PLATCHAT discussing about the NYXL ROSTER XD
devout path
People forgot kai was like insane at hitscan cuz pelican was so good
mental vine
i wanna hear the casters talk about this nyxl roster
not to mention kai was in widow 1v1
devout path
Has diem been picked up yet
mental vine
lmao imagine if this roster choked like the previous seasons again xD chockyxl
mental vine
Has diem been picked up yet
no
devout path
Diem to Houston gg
mental vine
pls dont tell me that this new roster will have a choke seasonal streak
sullen berry
https://twitter.com/GiantOmelette/status/1479478171942588417
mercy irl
mental vine
but korean instead of swiss
trail perch
Outlaws don’t even have a hitscan
decay
mental vine
no. 1 he has to dye his hair plat-blonde, no. 2 he has to say people never die, no. 3 somone call the whambulance
devout path
Did they pick up decay
trail perch
didnt that get leaked
devout path
I don’t remember that
trail perch
It might have just been rumors
noble nexus
You’re welcome :)
plush grail
You’re welcome :)
sullen berry
<@!200931208681619456> what the fuck
look it's so easy dude
there are three bombs, and you had one job
plush grail
cedar oasis
Luigi wheres the paris news at
vagrant cargo
<@!256095554730196992> seoul certified #2 APAC poggers nyxl to NA 🏃♂️
time to move philly above them 😈
plush grail
Luigi wheres the paris news at
paris news: jack eats bugs
next mesa
time to move philly above them 😈
u bitch
cedar oasis
I knew that already
noble nexus
paris news: jack eats bugs
yucky
plush grail
;)
plush grail
u own a lizard?
worn falcon
NYXL is very very mid, but since theyre moving to NA
So this leaves: Fusion, Spark, Charge, Dynasty and Dragons as the ones on APAC
Bruh
next mesa
yeah bruh
worn falcon
forgot Hunters
worn falcon
Dragons, Hunter and Seoul gonna be tops 3, the rest doesnt matter.
cedar oasis
have the regions ever been balanced
willow tartan
yes
this year
we didnt have an odd number for apac teams
so we could run proper tournaments
willow tartan
What we're all hoping
noble nexus
Nah I actually want covid to get worse just to spite Luigi wanting Paris homestands
cedar oasis
fuck off
vagrant jacinth
nein
north relic
we didnt have an odd number for apac teams
Maybe a team moves to apac
north relic
I doubt they leave Dallas
willow tartan
yeah, hastro money
shock? since they are changing to mostly the o2 blast players
and they are still in korea as far as i know
north relic
Super back to Korean omegalul
Shock fans would hate that though
So we can only hope
willow tartan
Why would they hate it?
north relic
Why would they hate it?
waking at 3 to blame a rookie
tropic herald
Maybe that’s where super is moving 
earnest leaf
<@!195043207397113856> https://twitter.com/T_HIGHTOWER2008/status/14792913799311...
Doom gets countered by the entire roster already lmao
earnest leaf
mf
Doom gets countered by the entire roster existing
Doom is dogshit because he is doom
Idgaf about how a change effects that hero
Doom needs a lot of help in so many other areas for his relevance, he also sits in a weird zone where you easily make him broken or useless with a change on him
next mesa
u are such brainlet
earnest leaf
Hero unironically needs a re-work to be more than a niche pick
also nyxl are playing in NA next year?
plush grail
Nah I actually want covid to get worse just to spite Luigi wanting Paris homesta...
Don't lie u wanna meet me
willow tartan
I already hate it
tropic herald
But 13-7 allows for a good 24 game season
willow tartan
But 13-7 allows for a good 24 game season
It's 24 games?
tropic herald
Sadly NY will be mid in NA
tropic herald
It's 24 games?
If the 13-7 split stays it would allow for 24 games to work
willow tartan
yeah ig
noble nexus
Don't lie u wanna meet me
You’re delusional
devout path
Nyxl looks better than paris
plush grail
I look better than paris
devout path
Ur quite ugly
plush grail
He looks like a Dutch person
You could have said so much but u say the 1 wrong thing
tropic herald
W
plush grail
W for sideshow
devout path
https://twitter.com/sideshowgaming/status/1479541433577218054?s=21
Massive
plush grail
L for @noble nexus @willow tartan @balmy wolf @hot onyx
Imagine no gf
Even egg has one
cedar oasis
yea imagine that
plush grail
U too
next mesa
Twitter
plush grail
Based
tough kernel
Yo when is overwatch league coming back?
earnest leaf
april
tough kernel
Damn bruh so far away
tropic herald
4/22/2022
worn falcon
anything is better than paris, including dirt
tacit skiff
Boston >
vagrant jacinth
anything is better than paris, including dirt
Based
worn falcon
and striker :D
devout path
Sounds like a great team
devout path
Striker mid gg
north relic
striker tracer overrated yaki tracer better
tacit skiff
Florida > NYXL sadly
north relic
fake
north relic
hydron diffs yaki?
devout path
So true
tacit skiff
so does im37
devout path
Based Boston fan
tacit skiff
stand1 was the best main tank in the league last year
punk was the best off tank
striker threw s1 because he knew kellex was too powerful
devout path
God it sounds like me
tacit skiff
kellex should've won mvp in s1 not jjonak
I was gonna ping Dink but I can't for some reason
stuck radish
schizophrenia is horrible isnt it
devout path
lol
tacit skiff
crimzo will diff Decay multiple times
specifically on the map Busan
and no where else
devout path
No that’s the day paris is removed from owl
tacit skiff
a good day
tropic herald
Is that ur bday?
Might as well be
gusty rampart
kellex should've won mvp in s1 not jjonak
This is why you get 0 bitches
plush grail
We all get 0 bitches
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wrong unlike u guys i have a gf
plush grail
I also own one
worn falcon
own 
tacit skiff
This is why you get 0 bitches
I don't need a bitch I have you bbg
gusty rampart
wrong unlike u guys i have a gf
Same, Seoul fans are winning
twilit oriole
I have no one
tacit skiff
L bozo
gusty rampart
L bozo
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Same, Seoul fans are winning
WWWW we only take dubs
gusty rampart
Absolutely
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tbh we will never drop a single round this upcoming season poggers
tepid raft
(sorry if im behind on news) can someone summarize who the new titan players are?
devout path
Aspire was a rookie hitscan for Toronto last season
Really good tracer
Solid hitscan as well
Masaa was the main support for the reign
Shockwave was on philly last season
Also really solid hitscan
Aztac was on Toronto
We didn’t really see him that much as he was benched for lastro
False idk
north relic
i heard good things about false
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False is the best contenders NA off tank
devout path
Yeah I just forgot what team he was from
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american tornado
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😭
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Twitter
@vagrant cargo xzi confirmed nyxl wow
wait but they are NA and he wants to be APAC
unless desperation
tacit skiff
xzi joins nyxl as an off tank player
north relic
<@!256095554730196992> xzi confirmed nyxl wow
holy shit pls
would you guys put xzi over kai
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probably but i am korean bias
its close
kai is weirdly really bad at widow 1v1s lmao
tiny pollen
kai was nutty last year idk if i would rank xzi higher
esp playoffs
not p;layoffs
yk what i mean
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definitely have an edge on ashe
xzi ashe is so bad
like how
someone tell him to change his ashe sens lmao
north relic
it has to be right
tropic herald
a more reasonable thing could just be that hes like anbox content creator or something
trail perch
maybe on ashe
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really bad
like he has edge on widow cree i agree
but the ashe gap is so big
that u cant say xzi is like a much better player
trail perch
allow me to make a few arguments
Argument 1
Hanzo
Argument 2
Sombra
Argument 3
Tracer
Argument 4
Zenyatta
Xzi has more range
And being able to play hanzo sombra tracer going into ow2, those are pretty valuable from a hitscan player for mid map adjustment
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- has xzi played sombra ever in his life
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- kai can also play tracer hanzo lol and i will take his hanzo over xzi's
trail perch
wrong
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and probably also tracer
trail perch
Xzi is def better on both
trail perch
Remember against philly s2
trail perch
xzi's tracer is really bad
nexus cup????
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lol he looked bad in nexus cup
did you actually watch it
it was clear he was uncomfortable
trail perch
No that was sp9rk1e
trail perch
They actually won with xzi on tracer
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that wasnt a tracer swap that made them win
xzi's tracer was bad
if u just watched the match
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maybe at the time sparkle was more uncomfortable on tracer
trail perch
A tracer swap was definetly quite good
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but xzi's tracer is definitely not good
trail perch
On stream recently...
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on stream sparkle has a nutty ashe
trail perch
He's been lowkey fuckin
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not OWL
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find me the clip cuz it aint there 🕺
vagrant jacinth
Sparkles tracer was bad but he's definitely improved a lot
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also when did xzi play sombra
because he never played in contenders
and never played in OWL
lol
trail perch
because he never played in contenders
Yes he did... often
trail perch
and never played in OWL
he literally plays sombra in the summer showdown
Against both shock and philly
AND WIN THOSE ROUNDS AND MAPS
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Yes he did... often
did you forget that doha was on his contenders team
trail perch
Also i know for sure sparkle ashe exists but i dont have the sobriety to search for it
trail perch
did you forget that doha was on his contenders team
They split time
Contenders was a mess
rotations everywhere
trail perch
Bro gauntlet was the only time he was benched
You didnt watch contendies
admit it
Even besides that]
HE PLAYS IT IN OWL
IN PARIS'S BEST STAGE
IN THE SEMIS AND GRAND FINALS
AND WINS
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are you actually stupid
he played sombra on 1 map (rialto) for half a round
and did shit
so he swapped widow
did way better after
lmao
north relic
honestly if xzi went to nyxl i doubt by plays other than like widow
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he didnt play sombra in the playoffs either
north relic
flora yaki covers a lot
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Bro gauntlet was the only time he was benched
damn his sombra was benched for a better sombra
- gauntlet was 3 years ago
and you're telling me xzi has a better sombra than kai like its supposed to be convincing
hanzo too
kai actually fucked on hanzo this season
he also didnt play sombra against philly in gf summer showdown
like you are just pulling shit out of your ass
vagrant cargo
would you guys put xzi over kai
yeah easily
kai never rlly hard pounded vs great teams
trail perch
yeah easily
ntb actually based for once
vagrant cargo
im not letting someone who said shit like friday top 5 ms get away w saying that
earnest leaf
Was honestly the second best ashe/widow/cree behind ans that year
vagrant cargo
even smacked corey around
earnest leaf
although xzi cree was better than ans
vagrant cargo
id take xzi over ans unironicaly
plush grail
Me > xzi
vagrant cargo
ye
earnest leaf
id take xzi over ans unironicaly
I would too only if cree is needed most of the time
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xzi had no business in the mvp race as did many others
earnest leaf
if widow/ashe is needed ans>
devout path
If you like xzi so much why don’t you marry him ha
tropic herald
haha
trail perch
If you like xzi so much why don’t you marry him ha
i wish.
plush grail
Ans and xzi both overrated
earnest leaf
If you need one person to exclusively play widow/ashe/cree, I will take ans over anyone in the league
north relic
thats never gonna happen though, dps need to be able to play literally every hero nowadays
earnest leaf
Not really depending on the team situation
Dallas needed sparkle and doha to flex a lot since they were all they had
Were a team like shock didn't because they had plenty of people to rotate
and hitscans mainly just need to pick up sombra/tracer/hanzo
And most of the time unless we're getting a bunch of balance patches, the same small set of heroes are played
noble nexus
Kevster, Ans, Patiphan might be a flexible enough dps line for ans to focus on cree widow ashe and get away with it tbh
earnest leaf
I think so long as ans can get like a decent tracer going they'll be good
iirc he can play hanzo, and his sombra is solid enough