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fallen turret
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He’s close tho

next mesa
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if you're a specialiser

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you better be top tier on them

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like ans

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cant play anything but hard hitscan

earnest leaf
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Leave/Pelican/Fleta are definetly better but I would take nero echo over sparkle

next mesa
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but ur top tier

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imagine ans

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like

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being ONLY able to play hard hitscan

next mesa
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and only being B+ tier on them

cedar oasis
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ans can carry like 70 percent of fights on hitscan hes good at

earnest leaf
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Ans is a very big outlier in terms of specialization imo

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Considering he's probably the best Widow/Ashe/Cree player in the game

next mesa
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im just saying like

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if you want to be a specializer

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on a team

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you should be top tier

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or else you dont provide that much value

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its like whoru on dragons if a genji doom meta comes and he's not pounding

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then he do be useless

tropic herald
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Whoru goated on genji

next mesa
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facts!

earnest leaf
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Sparkle wasn't top tier besides a couple heroes and did plenty during the year

cedar oasis
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he was goated

next mesa
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still is

cedar oasis
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i mean

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no

next mesa
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nah sparkle was particularly great on a lot of heroes

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like for me he is fifth best echo

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danteh isnt even like top 10 tracer probably

tropic herald
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Whoru has won apex contenders and owl 🐐🐐

next mesa
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most achieved player

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the grind never stops baby

earnest leaf
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tbf half the top tracers are gonna be in apac

next mesa
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i suppose

earnest leaf
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Basically all i'm saying is danteh is good enough on certain heroes to perform pretty well next year

next mesa
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id take apr1ta over danteh as well

earnest leaf
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No he isn't a gigachad S tier flex dps that will gap everyone

next mesa
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he'll play definitely

earnest leaf
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But he isn't some rando mid shitter that's gonna get gapped by bottom teams

next mesa
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but he would be better for outlaws

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it would be better for outlaws*

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if the meta was pelican/some shit that their other dps is also really good at

tropic herald
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  • we get some new heroes so maybe Danteh chads out
worn falcon
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idk why people talking down Danteh

earnest leaf
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if we were to get a new hero it would be sojourn

worn falcon
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he been solid af

next mesa
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thats always a possibility

earnest leaf
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which is hitscan iirc

next mesa
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solid isn't good enough to win a ring

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except if you're jecse

worn falcon
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dude, on NA sure it is

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Because all you guys are comparing Danteh with the S tier players

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which isnt his thing

next mesa
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danteh is gonna get hard gapped by proper

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and kevster

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also to win the ring

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u also gotta gap the APAC boys too

worn falcon
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Its like comparing Danteh Tracer with Striker.

earnest leaf
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Imo he doesn't have to gap people

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Do what sparkle did, just match and mitigate other tracers

next mesa
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exactly its not comparable despite being the only 2 good heroes that he plays

earnest leaf
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Make it so they can't take over

next mesa
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dude

worn falcon
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He need to do the work and help team

next mesa
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honestly

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i dont think

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sparkle

worn falcon
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doesnt need to be a madman

next mesa
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can gap proper

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even

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i mean not gap

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mitigate

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proper is immitigatable

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its what

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fuck whats his name

earnest leaf
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leave?

next mesa
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heesang

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tried to do

cedar oasis
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but what about consistency

next mesa
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did like a decent job

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heesang will be cracked btw

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my man is like 16

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he was matching proper on some occasions

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but at one point proper just takes over

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he's just TOO GOOD

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also dude

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apr1ta has that clutch gene

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im just fuckin rambling

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im gonna go shovel some snow

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c u nerds

worn falcon
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Sparkle is a Genji/DF two trick, but trying to do work on Tracer and Echo was decent enough for the team not being a shit tier team.

next mesa
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how did you go from dallas to shit tier team

cedar oasis
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isnt dallas top 3 na

next mesa
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its like not comparable

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yes

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sparkle is not a two trick

cedar oasis
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yea sparkle is top tier

next mesa
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he is top tier on 2-3 heroes but his other heroes are also very good

worn falcon
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Sparkle was a 2 trick pretty much

next mesa
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this year

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he showed us a lot more

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honestly though

earnest leaf
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What makes sparkle really solid is his consistency

next mesa
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i thought his pharah would be

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S++ tier

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but it turned out to be like a

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S- tier

earnest leaf
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He was able to jump on other heroes and put out a solid performance

next mesa
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A+ tier

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ish

worn falcon
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exactly, but like not S tier Tracer/Echo or even Mei

next mesa
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adaptibility

worn falcon
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God that Mei hurts me so much

next mesa
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they have doha for mei now

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doha's mei pretty good

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during their rush

worn falcon
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But then he practiced with heroes who he isnt very comfortable to pull

next mesa
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He showed us he was more than a 3 trick you know

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But on the other hand danteh is like a 3 trick who's not top tier on them, and he can't play anything else

earnest leaf
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I'm sure danteh can play other things

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Just he never has had to

worn falcon
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Danteh is pretty much a flex player, he was earlier a Genji player lmao

cedar oasis
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not a good one

worn falcon
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but neither a bad one

cedar oasis
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mid

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the midest of mid

earnest leaf
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You do not know what mid is

cedar oasis
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danteh is mid

noble nexus
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out of all the fdps in the league next season danteh is pretty mid

fallen turret
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False

next mesa
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true

willow tartan
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whos rumored for outlaws again?

next mesa
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i doubt his genjis is even mid

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ezhan

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team cc hitscan

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individually team cc had very good indivudal players

willow tartan
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damn. ezhan huh.

next mesa
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im pretty high on him

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i think mer1t or diem

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would've been better

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but certainly not mad

willow tartan
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literally where is diem

cedar oasis
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if you mad a list of all the flex dps and ranked them best to worst overall dantehs name would be in the middle

willow tartan
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from 2021?

noble nexus
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nah coming into this 2022 season

cedar oasis
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what

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this mans got footage of danteh

willow tartan
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what even are all the fdps for 2022

noble nexus
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I mean rn you can make a pretty accurate speculative tier list of fdps coming into the next season

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and danteh would be hella mid

cedar oasis
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the midest of mid

earnest leaf
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Solid A tier

cedar oasis
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no

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overall hes like b plus

earnest leaf
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nah

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He's been consistently A tier

cedar oasis
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on 2 heroes

willow tartan
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two of the most important heroes troel

cedar oasis
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true

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tracer and sombra

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most important

earnest leaf
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man doesn't need to play 17 heroes

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For most of next year I asssume he'll have to play tracer/sombra

willow tartan
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its basically a requirement for every dps player in the league to have a decent tracer

cedar oasis
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hes b tier on 15 heros and a tier on 2 and you say hes a tier overall?

earnest leaf
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Might have to run echo or mei some other times but we'll have to see what's meta

earnest leaf
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good logic

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Dps players don't have to play every hero, they only need to play what their team will require of them to run

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Same for every role

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You don't rate viol2t low because he doesn't play ana,

willow tartan
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marve1 best tank in ow2 troel

earnest leaf
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Or you don't rate fearless low because his orisa is mid and his ball is okay

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If you wanna rate dps players on their ability to play every hero you can do that, but it just isn't realistic or meaningful

willow tartan
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i dont think any dps can even play all the heroes to a high level

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besides, there's no point in learning more than you need to

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you thin yourself too much and you get viol2t main support troel

earnest leaf
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It's why super gets rated highly, his rein/orisa are really good, but never had to play winston/ball

cedar oasis
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i said overall

willow tartan
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overall so you should take into account their dps partner and rotation

earnest leaf
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yes

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It's why people rate ans really highly

willow tartan
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because that will reflect their performance on the server

earnest leaf
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Because he generally is only running a few heroes, not half of them

willow tartan
earnest leaf
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Probably only leave

willow tartan
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Leave only plays like 8 heroes i thought?

plush grail
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Paris

cedar oasis
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over flex dps danteh is mid tier

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specialised dps danteh is mid tier

earnest leaf
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simply the wrong opinion

cedar oasis
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but its a fact

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also compared to other people danteh is mid

lusty temple
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i

vagrant cargo
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actually a pretty nice pickup

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Ezhan fucks

flat ingot
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Sparkle not a good flex?

vagrant cargo
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muze > reiner on anything not called rein sadly

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therefore glads= 💩

vagrant cargo
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danteh is the Definition of a mid fdps imo

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hes like 9th? In NA

cedar oasis
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yes

vagrant cargo
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pelican proper sp9rk1e kevster naga altough nero assassin are the ones id take over him in a hearthbeat

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and s9mm valentine are debatable

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altough id favor valentine

willow tartan
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imagine assassin over danteh

vagrant cargo
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assassin legit diffed him on one of the 2 heros hes A tier on lol

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and is better on everything not named tracer

cedar oasis
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even if you want a tracer player there are like 7 others id take over danteh

vagrant cargo
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yeah

plush grail
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Paris

balmy wolf
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no more paris

tropic herald
willow tartan
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happy that muze might be able to reach his peak potential

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dunno what it was about glads that made him noticably uncomfortable

noble nexus
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I think it was just because he wasn’t so comfortable on rein so they had to avoid playing what could have potentially been their best meta

willow tartan
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KDG will whip him into shape

noble nexus
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Hopefully

willow tartan
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id be surprised if he didnt honestly

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tempered expectations as usual though.

noble nexus
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Muze is hella consistent so even if he doesn’t have some insane level up he’s gonna be a top MT

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He’s not gonna be worse

willow tartan
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yeah actually

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fair

noble nexus
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His support line might be just as good as the glads support line last season

willow tartan
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with the defiant you're really just worried about their dps rotation

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that's what's gonna make or break that team

noble nexus
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Yeah Finale is odd

willow tartan
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whether they can effectively cover the meta

noble nexus
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But although and heesu are both decent

next mesa
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Leave Fleta

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profit debatable

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pelican maybe

fallen turret
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How do I get regular?

river trellis
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!!regular

young fractalBOT
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river trellis
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@fallen turret

fallen turret
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Thx

north relic
plush grail
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Low blow

noble nexus
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Nah Marbel only knows how to lose regular

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He doesn’t know how to get it

balmy wolf
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Fuck y’all

noble nexus
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Aight bet

balmy wolf
plush grail
balmy wolf
plush grail
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Sorry I'm with my hot gf rn

balmy wolf
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Help

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He’s talking about Shanghai

noble nexus
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Leave it before his cringe starts to rub off on you

balmy wolf
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I can’t leave

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I own it

plush grail
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What server

balmy wolf
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Mine

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The one in my bio

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He joined it

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Help

noble nexus
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Ban then

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Dummy

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I wish he’d get banned in here too tbh

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Shanghai doesn’t need any more simps

balmy wolf
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Lmaooo

vagrant cargo
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why are rcow ppl acting as if boston vs Toronto is a close call lol

willow tartan
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why are you reading rcow

vagrant cargo
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Im bored at 2 am

balmy wolf
willow tartan
# balmy wolf Why are u in my server?

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balmy wolf
sullen berry
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He said he doesn't like Shanghai Dragons anymore because all they do is win the Overwatch regular season

north relic
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oh ok

sullen berry
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nothing new to see here

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don't show this to memeicus cus

balmy wolf
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LEVY JOINED ASWELL WTFFF

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Stop joining my server u idiots

next mesa
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u idiot

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why in bio then

willow tartan
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everyone join marbel's discord server its in his bio

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we are launching an esports discussion colonisation effort

north relic
willow tartan
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probably

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its in his bio so no problem

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we are going to get more people into ED

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we need more new bloods

north relic
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spread propraganda

balmy wolf
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Bro

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Lsd

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Aswell

north relic
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marbel 6'2 fake

balmy wolf
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It’s not

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I’m 187 cm tall

north relic
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no troll

balmy wolf
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It’s not

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It’s 6’2

north relic
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???????

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adding an extra inch

balmy wolf
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0,6 inches

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With shoes

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I’m 6’2

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W

willow tartan
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bro youre fuckin dumb

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thats 6 point 135 feet

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not 6 feet 1 inch

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1 foot = 12 inch so .135 foot = 1.6 inches

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so he is add only .4 america unit

balmy wolf
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Yeah I’m tall

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Eat shit

north relic
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other one was fake

oblique sun
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what the hell goin on here

willow tartan
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marbel so tall that his brain lacks the oxygen to make good takes

balmy wolf
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i hope shock wins next championship

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and charge go to playoffs

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and i want the shock to to get revenge on shanghai

versed panther
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I follow ans

willow tartan
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spoken like a true ed shitposter

fallen turret
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I hope grand finals is Vancouver vs Florida

vagrant cargo
tawdry hamlet
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Charge 😭

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Also if Atlanta does well will anyone finally take na seriously or nah

twilit oriole
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Nah

tropic herald
tawdry hamlet
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No matter what Atlanta do it's always a Mickey mouse

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I love that making it to the grand finals wasn't enough for people to rate them higher than above average last season

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"well guys if Dallas played good they easily would've won you know" COPIUM

fallen turret
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Atlanta were best team in the regular season ss onwards

tawdry hamlet
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Like blame it on meta all you want but they literally couldn't have scrimmed any ball teams regardless because they were in na so faulting them for being best in na is silly

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Like everyone was mad they made grand finals but Dallas literally would have been like 4-1 instead of 4-0 lmao

next mesa
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well i always said that if it wasnt dallas going against dragons the opponent is getting swept

fallen turret
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Yeah Dallas was better at the meta but Atlanta was just better

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Nah chengdu can hold up against dragons

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Not win

next mesa
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only peak dallas could contend with dragons and have a realistic shot at winning

next mesa
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4-0

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if dallas was not in shape to even make the finals no one stood a chance

tawdry hamlet
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catplobbers Chengdu and Dallas can win 1-2 games at best nobody else really wins a series in that scenario

fallen turret
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Chengdu was better than Dallas second half of season

tawdry hamlet
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I think LAG even would've been dumpstered like Atlanta tbh

next mesa
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any team

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would've gotten swept

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except dallas

fallen turret
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Chengdu is the only team that could’ve gotten a map

next mesa
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but the dallas that we got

fallen turret
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No

next mesa
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we have also gotten swept

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would have*

tawdry hamlet
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Funny thing is any meta except hard meicree rein I have Shanghai winning it wasn't even related to the ball

next mesa
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im saying peak wise realistically

tawdry hamlet
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They were just a step up

next mesa
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meicree rein they still win no cap

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maybe 4-2

fallen turret
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Dallas wasn’t close ss onwards

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Chengdu was way better

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah it's closer but the dps gap too strong

fallen turret
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Just yveltal

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I love how people thought Shanghai made a mistake choosing shock

tawdry hamlet
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Chengdu and LAG had amazing support rosters 😍

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People on the s3 gf hopium so hard thinking a team that was Houston tier all season would do much

next mesa
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chengdu wasn't better relatively

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like they could never compete with dragons

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at least dallas in peak did

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and it was 4-2 and then 3-4

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close

fallen turret
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Yeah but at the point of grand finals and countdown cup chengdu was better

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First half of season Dallas>chengdu

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Second half chengdu>Dallas

earnest leaf
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Atlanta will do plenty fine so long as Ojee/UV are anything above mid tier

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I don't think they'll win a stage though

fallen turret
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Only teams that can win a stage will be basically the same as last year

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Shanghai

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Dallas

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Shock

next mesa
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Seoul and seoul

fallen turret
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Glads

next mesa
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when was shock even close

fallen turret
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Maybe chengdu

next mesa
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to winning

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lol

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they didnt make hawaii

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once

fallen turret
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Going into last year

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Didn’t mean to hype up shock last year

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They weren’t good

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They were alright

earnest leaf
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Multiple times it came down to a single fight on a map

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for them to go to hawaii

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Actually they were about to 3-0 glads

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but glads un-tilted and came back

next mesa
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choked

tawdry hamlet
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The most stacked rosters imo coming into this season are Shanghai LAG Toronto Seoul Dallas 🙏

earnest leaf
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Nah it wasn't a choke ngl

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It was just glads doing dirty work

fallen turret
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Yes but Toronto

tawdry hamlet
earnest leaf
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Also next year for atlanta

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imo they have a similar season to last year

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go to hawaii a couple of times, maybe win a game or two, then lose out

random magnet
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How many countries are in the OWL? US, Canada, Korea, China

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anything else?

fallen turret
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I think unter is extremely underrated when it comes to Atlanta’s success

earnest leaf
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He got a lot of praise for their success

random magnet
earnest leaf
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But no unter will make things interesting

random magnet
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3head moment

tawdry hamlet
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Shock got big name rookies and coach upgrades so I'm interested in seeing how they turn out

fallen turret
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Glads with unter could be nasty

earnest leaf
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Glads imo will show how solid unter is

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He has every piece to make a top team

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Can he help face mold them into one though

fallen turret
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Unter proved he’s good on Atlanta

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Before he came, they sucked

random magnet
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Glads goat, Space best off tank in the league no cap

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(def not talking out my ass)

earnest leaf
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Space has some nasty mechanics

fallen turret
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After he came, they were Hella dominant

tawdry hamlet
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Gargoyle my beloved

earnest leaf
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which will be good for ow2 if he starts

sullen berry
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Space is the best off tank

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All Korean tanks do not exist

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Just SPACE

tawdry hamlet
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How good is masaa

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I don't even know

earnest leaf
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Solid A tier imo

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like jecse tier

fallen turret
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Every part of Atlanta looked better Bc or unter

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So who knows

earnest leaf
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what will be interesting is if gator and hawk can continue their success

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or maybe they had a one year peak with unter coaching

fallen turret
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Same goes for iris and masaa

earnest leaf
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nah I think iris is actually super nasty

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just the raw shit he did from his pov was amazing

fallen turret
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How did they all do in may?

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And April

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Bc unter came like mid may

earnest leaf
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I cannot recall their games perfectly back then

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Lost to florida when florida was good, lost to toronto 2-3, then rolled paris, and barely lost to shock 2-3

fallen turret
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Rip good Florida

earnest leaf
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actually tragic what happened to that team

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Went from beating chengdu to losing like 10 in a row

tawdry hamlet
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Imagine if they'd chosen pokpo, dreamer, or literally any other main tank rookie 😭

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Like imagine if they'd chosen jjangu or muze or mag, hindsight ablobpainrain

earnest leaf
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imagine if they got fissure

tawdry hamlet
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Imagine if they kept fate hehe

earnest leaf
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I don't think that was possible

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Shanghai probably gave him a fat bag and guaranteed wins

tawdry hamlet
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I mean yeah when the best team in the world offers you the starting spot and you're closer to home no way you turn it down

fallen turret
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If Florida signed mag tho

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Yaki+bqb instead of assassin+decay

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And a good back line

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Florida could have gotten a stage

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But no

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They signed oge

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Who got benched by a bench warming flex dps player

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To create the greatest rein montage known to man

gusty rampart
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Yaki and BQBs talent was wasted

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Because of washed teammates like OGE and Slime

tawdry hamlet
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Checkmate was the chipsa of rein 🙏

gusty rampart
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Living frag machine

fallen turret
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But checkmate did something

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He diffed fearless

gusty rampart
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Admittedly not hard in the Rein mirror

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Gator, super, and Mag usually had no trouble in the Rein mirror with Fearless

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Unpopular opinion: Hanbin made Fearless look good

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Hanbin

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Now that's a real monster

willow tartan
earnest leaf
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Hanbin was easily the silent carry of dallas

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Ngl Hanbin/Choi/Void were the best OTs of ow1

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No OT players imo peaked as high as they all did on both sig and dva

next mesa
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Tru

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Void silently a goat candidate

earnest leaf
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Goat of ow1 is hard

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Because if you include apex and pre owl shit, it gets kinda fuzzy

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Just owl it's a bit easier

next mesa
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The case for profit is longevity

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That's his whole shebang

earnest leaf
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You know who's longevity doesn't get talked about though

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super funnily enough

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iirc he was actually decent pre-owl, and never was bad in owl

next mesa
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True

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Peaked s2

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Benched s3

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But otherwise

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Very solid performances all around the board

earnest leaf
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difference between rein meta and very little rein meta

next mesa
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Like every time he actually played

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Je was good

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He*

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Even on hog

earnest leaf
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His hog was a surprise

next mesa
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He was like top 2 hog and honestly that's because gesture got hard pocketed by creative that was the strat

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Like individually they are pretty similar and gesture only got better stats because pocket

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Anyways u know who's hog was underrated

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Jjanu

earnest leaf
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yea that just came down to comp differences

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ana nade op

next mesa
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Ppl talk about

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The justice run

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Decay decay decay

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Jjanu was fuckin nasty

earnest leaf
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Decay's performance overshadowed everyone else

next mesa
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If they have made it further he could've easily been best hog

earnest leaf
#

no one remembers stitch legit matching ans on fucking ashe

next mesa
#

That was the strat though

#

Stitch and ttuba turned tf up

earnest leaf
#

aimgod/ark were both peaking as well

next mesa
#

Ark was on mercy comfy pick

#

He was just vibing

#

Jjanu hog though sexy as fuck

#

Sadge

#

Fuck the titans

earnest leaf
#

I think titans was just a case of upper management fucking everything

#

so the staff has to work with scraps

#

But they at least tried this year with a roster

fallen turret
#

Why did the Titans just release their whole roster back then?

next mesa
#

DONE DEAL

#

It's OVER

fallen turret
#

How does he compare to merit?

next mesa
#

A little worse rn but maybe higher peak

tacit skiff
vagrant jacinth
#

Got my regular back, marbels mental in tatters

last nimbus
#

why did outlaws sign lastro anyways

#

just as a zen otp?

jagged viper
#

double flex support

#

@last nimbus

#

also lastro is qwuite good

#

quite

last nimbus
#

do they have iris and lastro now?

#

damn its a bad szn for main supports

jagged viper
#

i think main supports will be signed later

#

they havent even played ow2

#

so they need to see

last nimbus
#

yeah i guess double flex is a safe option going into ow2

tacit skiff
#

kariv hasn't been signed yet

#

sadge

noble nexus
#

good

#

washed af

regal ravine
#

ow esports is kinda weird

#

players represent a country or city they're not even from

#

and outside their skill they're kinda nameless teenagers

#

unlike in real sports

raw ermine
#

That's how many non esports sports work

#

I guess the gamertag changes that

noble nexus
#

yeah the only difference is their username not being their irl names lol

#

most sports are like that

regal ravine
#

really

#

bruh

noble nexus
#

not every football player on a team is from the city the team is based in

#

they only represent their countries during the world cup

#

exact same in OWL

last nimbus
#

imagine soccer players had playertags

noble nexus
#

Xx_Messi69_xX

willow tartan
plush grail
#

it'd sound cringe

#

casting ow

#

and having to say regular names

#

imagine the eqo rialto clutch

#

but instead of saying eqo they say josh corona

next mesa
#

Choihyobin tho

willow tartan
#

jake

next mesa
#

Choisehwan

#

Ryujehong

gusty rampart
#

Bro i wish the casters would just call him "Choi"

#

That's what everyone calls him

willow tartan
#

they do?

#

sometimes they say choi sometimes they say choisehwan

#

doesnt matter

gusty rampart
#

Talking about Mr. Hyobin

north relic
noble nexus
#

He's on about Choihyobin

tacit skiff
#

Dink has always been lil weird

north relic
#

yea

willow tartan
#

during games sometimes u have to shorten so they say choi on broadcast

#

i remb avrl saying it

tacit skiff
#

important to remember that choisehwan and choihyobin have never played in the same match and never will so it doesn't really matter

north relic
#

yea no shot shock make a tourney

willow tartan
#

^^^

gusty rampart
#

No chance Charge ever make a tourney ever again

willow tartan
#

least they won 2020 summer showdown

north relic
#

charge made as many tournies as shock last season

willow tartan
#

Guangzhou won more maps against shanghai than shock did in 2021 trollformation

gusty rampart
#

And Grand Finals

willow tartan
#

cope

gusty rampart
#

Ratio + u fell off + didn't ask + don't care + ur cringe + cope + cancelled + quote tweet +

gusty rampart
#

2019

#

We were talking about 2020

north relic
#

you were talking about 2020

#

we were talking about 2021

earnest leaf
#

shock has the trump card of two grand finals

north relic
#

not even 4 grand finals smh

trim shadow
#

to bad shock is rebuilding and wont have most of the championship experience

willow tartan
#

the shanghai dragons has a 100% map win record in grand finals compared to the shock's 80%

earnest leaf
#

super/viol2t still got it

#

and crusty/ninek

trim shadow
#

they are still technically starting over

earnest leaf
willow tartan
#

so did shock troel

earnest leaf
#

It's more a soft re-build

#

keeping core pieces and bringing in fresh talent

willow tartan
#

they still have their coaching staff and they still have their best second best player

#

i think its sort of expected for them to at least make hawaii once right?

#

or well with NA competition more like

earnest leaf
#

If the rookies live up to expectations, yes it will be expected

willow tartan
#

mhm

#

i dont see them being too dominant though

#

like actually i dont think NA will have one dominant team shitting on everyone else for 3/4ths of the year

earnest leaf
#

Yea too many teams that could hang up top

gusty rampart
#

Outlaws might

willow tartan
#

why outlaws?...

gusty rampart
#

Pelican

willow tartan
#

out of all the teams you choose outlaws

earnest leaf
#

will hard depend on the meta

gusty rampart
#

Ir1s

#

Piggy

#

All crazy good players

willow tartan
#

why would it depend on meta?

#

i feel like all the top NA teams overlap in meta pretty heavily

earnest leaf
#

Where a team like reign might do much better in an orisa or rein meta

willow tartan
#

oh well yeah i guess dallas is the outlier

earnest leaf
#

Shock is the weird mixture

willow tartan
#

but that's just because his winston gaps everyone else in NA hard

earnest leaf
#

they have a MT built for orisa/rein stuff, but the rest of the team is super strong at dive heroes

willow tartan
#

ah so they have an american MT and a korean team? troel

next mesa
#

proper will fuck on anything

#

it doesn't matter

#

give him a junk meta

#

he will dethrone jake 10 seconds into the game

earnest leaf
#

I'd be worried if super was a rookie as well, but he's been doing this for years

willow tartan
#

prophardt vs chadmate

earnest leaf
#

he'll be good to work with them all

willow tartan
#

honestly im not too concerned on whether super will perform or not

earnest leaf
#

and shock is getting a team house too, so they won't be stashed away in seperate apartments

willow tartan
#

more worried about their new talent brought in and how well they integrate

earnest leaf
#

With ninek back I think it will go decently

next mesa
#

seperate apartments is sometimes good tbh

gusty rampart
#

Proper will be good

next mesa
#

a bit of personal space but you still commute to a practice facility

#

so it's like you're actually going to work

#

instead of like just being in a physical location the entire day

#

which might be bad for your mental

#

pros an dcons

willow tartan
#

i thought it was already proven that team houses help more

#

(in esports)

earnest leaf
#

s2 shock was a team house

gusty rampart
#

Yea

next mesa
#

yeah but s3 shock wasnt im pretty sure

#

i dont know if shanghai has a team house

willow tartan
#

pretty sure they do

next mesa
#

i do know that molly and whoru werent on the location

gusty rampart
#

I'm pretty sure most teams are going to try to go for team houses

#

Wasn't there a rumor that London was going to be in LA?

willow tartan
#

I mean they have to be

earnest leaf
#

s3 shock was apartments

willow tartan
#

or else when they make a tournament they cant participate cuz in EU and covid

worn falcon
#

S3 shock was them having a fire close and pausing a match

willow tartan
#

okay either my monitor is shititng itself or i am shitting myself because i could see the refresh rate of my monitor, like the active refresh cycle

worn falcon
#

i even remember some guy being mad at shock for having pauses in game.

willow tartan
#

wasnt a real fire was it?

worn falcon
#

it was

sullen berry
#

you're saying it wasn't a real fire??

worn falcon
#

some building far away

willow tartan
#

i dont remember it

#

i thought it was unrelated

#

ohh that

#

i recall that now

worn falcon
#

this one

sullen berry
#

yaes

willow tartan
#

ah that fire does look realistic

worn falcon
#

they were unlucky with fires

#

lol

willow tartan
#

first image looks like it was made by a machine learning image generator AI

sullen berry
soft horizon
north relic
#

bro all i needed were monthly balance patches and they couldnt even do that 😭

earnest leaf
#

The last patch that actually adjusted a hero was in august

#

August 5th

willow tartan
#

pharmercy really annoying honestly

#

also roadhog every game kills me

#

ow2 will have map ban and hero bans watch HOPIUM

north relic
#

i wont mind map but hero bans would annoy a lot of ppl

earnest leaf
#

hero bans are just too restrictive atm with the current support/tank pool

north relic
#

yes

stuck radish
#

add hero bans for 1 hero per role so i can get double shield and soldier mercy out of my games

north relic
#

add hero bans so i can ban dva

stuck radish
#

No

balmy wolf
#

love double sheild

#

and double bubble

#

hate solder mercy tho

willow tartan
stuck radish
#

understandable bans

#

only reason i dont ban hog is bc hes free sr when im not playing poorly

#

since i play dva

willow tartan
#

yeah but he's still annoying as hell

#

idc if i get smashed i just dont wanna play with or against a roadhog

tawdry hamlet
#

Holy crap somebody needs to take thorin and montecristos phones away LOL he dug the biggest hole

#

Literally makes 10000 tweets instead of just taking the L

tacit skiff
#

casting a game you like seems like such a fun job

#

I envy Custa, he seems like such a happy person

tawdry hamlet
#

Thorin had a hot take on women's only tournaments and then went on this insane like 50 tweet cycle of reposting fans and shitting on woke sjw feminists etc etc and he said you can't kick me out of the eSports industry I am eSports lmao

#

Literally dug a massive hole for no reason

tacit skiff
#

parental controls are for this reason

next mesa
#

thorin is like mentally disabled

mortal cipher
#

Hmm

willow tartan
#

Jayne invented Thorin?

earnest leaf
#

Jayne invented esports

#

Thorin is esports

#

Therefore Jayne invented Thorin

gusty rampart
#

Thorin IS eSports

mortal abyss
#

The father the son and the Holy Spirit of esports

tawdry hamlet
#

The father the son and the Holy Spirit of esports were Invented by Jayne

vagrant jacinth
#

I do love all the casters but nothing beats bren and sideshow casting toilet bowl games

tacit skiff
#

boston v houston in 2020

plush grail
#

fixed that for u

noble nexus
#

Based Luigi

vagrant jacinth
#

Honestly facts ngl

plush grail
#

sideshow bren is #1 and #2

#

jake #3

#

sideshow bren is perfect balance between banter, serious and sexy

twilit oriole
#

I hated Jake casting idk why

noble nexus
#

Caster Jake > Player Jake

vagrant jacinth
#

I really like uber. If egg and bren are 1 and 2, he'd be 3

tacit skiff
#

wait when did jake cast

north relic
#

last season?

#

yk when boston was #20?

tacit skiff
#

i wasnt particularly interested in s3

#

for

#

reasons

vagrant jacinth
#

Yeah, he castes the 2020 season

next mesa
tacit skiff
#

s3 is the worst season wdym bad

next mesa
#

Not the worse season

#

Such a good season

#

Too bad u missed it tho

tacit skiff
#

it's boring

#

all it does is tell the tale of how the dragons didn't suck anymore

#

the beginning of their s4 grand finals win starts in s3

noble nexus
#

also the tale of how boston and vancouver sucked dick

#

how shock was the best team in the world for the 2nd year in a row

willow tartan
#

dallas being good started in 2020 summer showdown

noble nexus
#

also pretty sure shanghai stopped sucking before s3

willow tartan
#

💪

noble nexus
#

nah I'm just fucking around we all know that stage didn't matter because shock or titans didn't win it

#

they were the only 2 teams that played in s2

next mesa
#

hey

#

hey you

#

shut the fuck up

#

loser

#

fucking bitch

gusty rampart
gaunt granite
#

d

balmy wolf
#

memeicus is haunting me in my dreams

north relic
balmy wolf
north relic
#

Luigi face reveal?

plush grail
#

if u admit paris is the best team

#

i will post a face and toe reveal

noble nexus
#

damn it's a good job no one here wants to see your face or toe

plush grail
#

u sure

#

u were begging me for toe pics in dm yesterday

noble nexus
#

leak our dms rn and prove it then

#

you troglodyte

plush grail
#

no

#

thats mean

noble nexus
#

that's what I thought

cedar oasis
#

I mean paris is the best team

plush grail
#

based

noble nexus
#

idk who that other guy is so their opinion is worthless

plush grail
#

he's a og you fucking sand chugging chump

noble nexus
#

I know who he is you chimp brain I was joking because he doesn't have regular

#

is your cranium really that thick?

tacit skiff
#

Paris will be mediocre again next season

plush grail
#

my cranium and ass are both DUMMY thick

noble nexus
#

no one asked

plush grail
tacit skiff
#

has a point

north relic
plush grail
#

who are u

#

!!welcome

young fractalBOT
north relic
#

!!should luigi post toe pics

young fractalBOT
#

Yes.

balmy wolf
#

yes

#

u heard it

plush grail
#

PARIS

north relic
#

nyxl

cedar oasis
#

is the best team

north relic
#

based

plush grail
#

based

cedar oasis
#

what dps is meta next season

#

im thinking junk

#

its about time he rises

plush grail
#

how the fuck are we supposed to know

cedar oasis
#

i thought you saw the future

#

in wich paris is number 1

plush grail
#

i only see the future where the world ends

cedar oasis
#

is paris 1 in that future

plush grail
#

yes ofc

cedar oasis
#

is that the only future where paris is 1

plush grail
#

paris is #1 in every future

cedar oasis
#

nice

plush grail
#

but there's not a single future where you get any bitches

cedar oasis
#

im on the grind

#

dont need no bitches

plush grail
cedar oasis
#

so about these toe picks i keep hearing about

#

where they at

vagrant jacinth
#

Toe pics? 👀

plush grail
#

ask marbel

balmy wolf
tacit skiff
#

the universe implodes following a Paris grand finals victory

plush grail
#

u all need help

#

if paris wins s5

#

i will pay for your therapy

tacit skiff
#

I could use therapy

north relic
#

same

#

time to tryout for paris to win free therapy

plush grail
#

i'm pretty sure

#

paris would have a better chance

#

if u did NOT join them

cedar oasis
#

same

plush grail
#

:)

cedar oasis
#

(:

next mesa
#

and whoever is broken at the time

#

but definitely

#

tracer

willow tartan
#

tracer and new hero

plush grail
#

tracer dont be meta challenge (impossible)

tiny pollen
#

feeling junk tracer

#

NOOO

#

MY ROLE

north relic
#

L

balmy wolf
#

dva is almost always meta

#

more then tracer

noble nexus
#

only L bozos lose regular

willow tartan
#

At least Marbel won't be so lonely now.

balmy wolf
#

what

#

fuck u

noble nexus
#

nah he's still lonely

willow tartan
#

I thought he was ian's right hand

north relic
#

ian loves his right hand

balmy wolf
#

he loves me fr

sullen berry
#

@tiny pollen

twilit oriole
#

L

balmy wolf
#

Is OW2 out yet?

north relic
balmy wolf
#

Is it really? Where can I buy it?

next mesa
willow tartan
#

comedy

balmy wolf
vagrant jacinth
#

Gottem lmao

fallen turret
#

Best player on every team: AtlantaReign Pelican BostonUprising Punk ChengduHunters Leave DallasFuel Hanbin FloridaMayhem Yaki GuangzhouCharge idk Eileen or crong HangzhouSpark Shy HoustonOutlaws Piggy LondonSpitfire Shax LosAngelesGladiators Shu

#

LosAngelesValiant Molanran NewYorkExcelsior JJoNak ParisEternal Kaan PhiladelphiaFusion Alarm SanFranciscoShock Nero or Twilight SeoulDynasty Profit ShanghaiDragons Lip TorontoDefiant Aspire VancouverTitans Teru WashingtonJustice Mag

stuck radish
#

Yes

fallen turret
#

Forgot Seoul lol

fallen turret
#

Oops lol I completely forgot he was existed

gusty rampart
#

Going to ignore that statement

#

Also Vestola>Kaan maybe

fallen turret
#

Maybe

gusty rampart
#

I really do think almost all of Paris did pull their own weight tho

earnest leaf
#

I could see fits over profit

#

otherwise I think I agree with it all

next mesa
#

I thought of that too

gusty rampart
#

I really hope ProFits lives up to the hype again next season

next mesa
#

They have for 2 seasons

#

Should be good

#

Also for valiant

#

Probably wya

#

Charge

#

Choisehwan had a strong argument

willow tartan
#

krystal for valiant honestly

plush grail
willow tartan
#

wonder what he'll be doing next

#

if ow2 will revitalise his interest in professional play

vagrant cargo
#

punk wasnt better than faith, aspire wasnt better than heesu, mag over fury? profit over fits?? piggy wasnt better than happy either also CSW was by far Charges best player

#

and nero was definitely not the best shock Player 😭

tacit skiff
#

punk solos unfortunately

vagrant cargo
#

nah

#

if u think punk is better than faith then idek what to tell u

#

because faith is a top 5 ms while punk is a mid table OT

north relic
#

ot is 10x more stacked than ms

#

and faith isnt even a top 5ms

cedar oasis
#

To be fair

#

It's real easy to look good on a shit team

tiny pollen
#

Mag and fury over hyped

#

Decay best player on justice

#

1v11ing

#

Shu is also boosted by kevster and space

#

Space > kev

fallen turret
tiny pollen
#

Happy is too inconsistent imo

fallen turret
#

Yeah

vagrant cargo
tiny pollen
#

But also didn't have a great tracer or Sombra

vagrant cargo
tiny pollen
#

Which fucked Houston lots

vagrant cargo
#

or rather

#

was

#

hes prolly 6th now

#

leejaegon nisha funnyastro ch0r0ng Chiyo faith

#

hes potentialy better than chiyo

vagrant cargo
fallen turret
vagrant cargo
#

yveltal retired

tiny pollen
#

??

vagrant cargo
#

didnt he

fallen turret
#

No?

vagrant cargo
#

or did nisha retire

fallen turret
#

Nope

vagrant cargo
#

yeah ight then yveltal too

tiny pollen
#

Maasaa?

#

Moth?

vagrant cargo
#

masaa worse on everything not called mercy

#

moth isnt even in the League rn

tiny pollen
#

Moth got fucked by having best brig on his team

#

And bad rein

#

And wanting too much money

vagrant cargo
#

i mean

#

even when he was in

#

He didnt do that exceptional

tiny pollen
#

He played like 2 games on a new team

vagrant cargo
#

Also they played muze rein on hawaii and he absolutely dominated Atlanta on hanamura

vagrant cargo
fallen turret
#

Also I think fd is better than faith

vagrant cargo
#

FD was dogshit off lucio

#

last season

tiny pollen
#

Nah dpei said muze rein want that good

#

*wasnt

vagrant cargo
#

i mean Post maylee it was id argue

#

rewatch summer showdown qualifiers vs Atlanta or him on rein in countdown cup vs Atlanta

#

He pounded absurdely hard there

#

He also has the stats to back it up

tiny pollen
#

Watch dpei interview

vagrant cargo
#

i did

#

whats ur opinion on feath5r

noble nexus
#

pretty sure he just said muze wasn't confident on the hero?

tiny pollen
#

Whomegalul

vagrant cargo
#

because packing10 said feath5r was the best fdpd they trialed

gusty rampart
vagrant cargo
#

yet he flopped

tiny pollen
#

Wasn't that nyxl

vagrant cargo
#

feath5r trialed for valiant

gusty rampart
vagrant cargo
#

yeah

tiny pollen
#

Imma be honest I have no clue who feather or packing10 are

vagrant cargo
#

MuZe rein wasnt even bad but ofc u gonna look mid on the hero qhen ur team isnt coordinated

vagrant cargo
#

Also calling decay the best Player on justice when he did air almost every game is funny

tiny pollen
#

Fury is like my clothes rn

#

Washed

fallen turret
#

Mag insane

tiny pollen
#

mag doesn't have a ball sadly

vagrant cargo
#

nor a orisa

fallen turret
#

Best rein tho

vagrant cargo
#

weird way to spell super/fearless

fallen turret
#

He looked good on rein with Bebe and closer backline

vagrant cargo
#

Mags rein is nuts tho i agree

#

id say hes third