esports-discussion

[next mesa]

hes like

not on a roster yet

right

officially

[plush grail]

i dont know

he's shit anyways

[cedar oasis]

true

[plush grail]

we'll just ask empathy if we can get a pin

and go from there

[north relic]

I will wrestle dink for jjonak

[plush grail]

so people see it

[plush grail]

naked??? with oil????

[gusty rampart]

Wtf???

[north relic]

I’m a minor

[plush grail]

sorry that wasn't me my discord got hacked

[cedar oasis]

keep your fetishes away from me

[next mesa]

@tropic herald senpai

🙏 🙏 lets do draft

[gusty rampart]

I'm literally JJoNakSZN and JJoNakFan44

[tropic herald]

what

[plush grail]

levy wants to do a draft with this chat

[tropic herald]

ok

[next mesa]

do the mod admin

[cedar oasis]

yea the special ed kids are asking you

[gusty rampart]

Shutcho

[willow tartan]

are we doing a fantasy league?

[hot onyx]

Add me and make it a solid 6

[trail perch]

@next mesa get me in there coach

My copium will carry me

[north relic]

someone steal decay

[willow tartan]

looks like we have 8 then

[vagrant jacinth]

Just make a draftbuff league smh

[sullen berry]

Nobody has touched draftbuff

Since the app is currently looking for buyers and the creators have moved on to making games

[vagrant jacinth]

Oh lmao

Idk how this works but put me in

[north relic]

is there anything else or is levy going to somehow code something up

[willow tartan]

no idea what rules he wants to run it by

[vagrant jacinth]

Lemme know I wanna join

[next mesa]

That might be out of my capabilities idk where to get all the stats and data lol

[north relic]

give memeicus something to do

[next mesa]

Maybe there's like some OWL API

Memeicus do you code

I'm novice tbh

The frameworks we'll hypothetically be using I am not familiar with lol

[noble nexus]

you sound like such a nerd rn

stop being somewhat smart

[next mesa]

I am

[noble nexus]

pussy

[next mesa]

No cap

Nerd as fuck

[noble nexus]

🙄

[next mesa]

This is what happens when u watch OWL

[vagrant jacinth]

Lol

[north relic]

no lets make memeicus count how many shots leave hits and the amount of damage he does

[next mesa]

Bet

[willow tartan]

leave: 0
lip: 654

[north relic]

i said dmg not deaths

[tawdry hamlet]

Kenobi had a fantasy league at one point

[tacit skiff]

hello fellow overwatch eSports lovers

[gusty rampart]

Hello Heartache (OWL Opinions, Myunb0ngSZN, PunkSZN)

[tacit skiff]

formerly those last two

[plush grail]

hello Dink (shock bitch)

[noble nexus]

Hello Luigi (Pussy)

[raw ermine]

Hello #esports-discussion (bad)

[plush grail]

Hello Jack (!!welcome)

[noble nexus]

Did not ask

[plush grail]

I love u

[trail perch]

Hello luigi (!!luigi)

!!luigi

[plush grail]

:)

[sullen berry]

Hello Christmas

[vagrant jacinth]

Hello owl enjoyers

[north relic]

hi

[noble nexus]

I don’t enjoy owl actually

😤

[cedar oasis]

Does anyone really

[noble nexus]

I mean you definitely don’t cuz you’re a Paris fan

[cedar oasis]

Shut ur mouth

[noble nexus]

Aight

[balmy wolf]

Merry Christmas y’all

Ily guys

Besides Jack

Fuck Jack

[cedar oasis]

its not christmas

[balmy wolf]

For me it is

So shut yo ass

[next mesa]

merry christmas marbel

[gusty rampart]

Merry Christmas Marbel

And yes please stop talking "paris fan"

[balmy wolf]

[cedar oasis]

no

if i dont who else will

[plush grail]

Merry Christmas

I'm celebrating with my gf and wont be online for a bit

Send your usual Paris abuse to my DMS and I will get to u shortly

[hot onyx]

Happy Holidays, shitsports-discussion

[north relic]

sadly im not ||EU|| so its not christmas yet

[vagrant jacinth]

I am eu and its not Christmas yet

[gusty rampart]

I am NA

Christmas is tomorrow

Merry Christmas Europeans

I expect gifts

[cedar oasis]

imagine bieng from the eu

couldent be me

[noble nexus]

You wish you could

[balmy wolf]

[plush grail]

Merry Christmas degenerates

[willow tartan]

merry hanukkah nerds

[north relic]

It’s still 830 for me

[plush grail]

who asked

[north relic]

Sorry sir

[noble nexus]

Didn’t ask

[next mesa]

when u realize 2022 is also pronounced

2020 - 2

fuck me

[tawdry hamlet]

Overwatch League be like sorry Lullsish this guy who consistently got hard gapped every owl game and was faltering in contenders took your spot.
Question is which eu main tank fits that description 💀

Both of them

[north relic]

merry Christmas

[next mesa]

Merry christmas

[gusty rampart]

Merry Christmas

[sullen berry]

Merry Christmas!

[hot onyx]

Eid Mubarak shitters

[noble nexus]

Shut the fuck up Sans jeez

Do you ever stop talking???

🙄🙄

[hot onyx]

I stopped talking for a solid 47 minutes

Consider it your present

[noble nexus]

Omg thank you 😘

[vagrant jacinth]

Merry Christmas esports chads

[plush grail]

hope u all get a paris jersey for christmas

[vagrant jacinth]

Damn, just give me coal

[raw ermine]

Tbh I would just make snowmen out of them

[north relic]

Yea I love the paris merch

[plush grail]

shut up shut up

[north relic]

There’s a Boston and valiant logo in this picture

can’t wait to turn into a Boston and valiant level team

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[next mesa]

https://www.twitch.tv/saudieleagues?sr=a

Hadi and admiral vs Falcon esports rn

[trail perch]

theres also dallas

[next mesa]

khaleesi do be a bitch but this is facts

https://twitter.com/KhaleesiBB/status/1474419803091714053

Leesi 🌙 (@KhaleesiBB)

“once Covid ends” starting to sound a lot like “once Overwatch 2 drops”

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5388

Twitter · Dec 24, 2021, 4:40 PM

[gusty rampart]

JJoNakSZN isn't there, NYXL fell off. Seoul would include JJoNakSZN

[cedar oasis]

are there still nyxl fans?

[gusty rampart]

I don't think he realizes

[north relic]

average paris fan iq

[gusty rampart]

Tru

[tawdry hamlet]

I hope Florida surprises everyone like s4 Houston did

But I don't have tons of hope

[willow tartan]

i only pray that the eastern teams get better at the video game

[tawdry hamlet]

Charge literally have a solid B tier core they just can't provide support pieces at all

Coaching 😭

Like their coaching is ass but mechanically their core is solid

And their pieces sucked

Like kariv Mandu

[willow tartan]

god remember at the start of the season when we'd get a new coaching staff/management replacement every month in APAC

very fun

[gusty rampart]

It was Spark

[willow tartan]

charge too

[hot onyx]

And Hunters after constantly promoting and demoting Chen

[gusty rampart]

Hunters fell off

Seoul>Hunters

[willow tartan]

me waiting for off season tournaments that are not gonna happen bc ow2

[gusty rampart]

Tru sadly

[next mesa]

Tru

[balmy wolf]

jimmy > all other hitscan players

[willow tartan]

jimmy played like 2 maps

still more than coldest though

[next mesa]

Sup shitters

[noble nexus]

Sup babycakes

😘

Also Jimmy was great

He did that one thing that one time he played on that one day when he was doing things

[hollow bough]

happy holidays esports discussion B)

my favorite channel

[raw ermine]

Top tier channel, one might but probably won't say

[noble nexus]

I’d say that

[next mesa]

Id say that

Happy holidays

[plush grail]

good channel

Shit regulara

[noble nexus]

Regulara

[willow tartan]

we should do an r/overwatch channels power rankings

[earnest leaf]

Whichever channel I frequent the most is the best

[willow tartan]

dunno what should we rank by

if its by skill at overwatch then we're fucked because we have ian

[earnest leaf]

But we also have me so it evens out

https://gfycat.com/briefinsistentarchaeopteryx like I can do this

[willow tartan]

why didnt you sub in for OGE this year

[earnest leaf]

Would be unfair for other teams

[next mesa]

he would body fearless and super at the same time

[earnest leaf]

I once went rein in a ranked game vs super, and my team told me to swap

still won the game

(granted I went orisa because she was broken at the time)

[willow tartan]

the first part of your claim heavily implied that you played rein against super

and won despite of it

[earnest leaf]

Once upon a time when I grinded ranked I got to play vs some owl players

[willow tartan]

no yeah but like

very different things

[earnest leaf]

I never said my rein was the reason we won

[willow tartan]

yes

[north relic]

i could easily rein gap super

[hollow bough]

anyone here can easily be world champions if we made a team

[willow tartan]

when tier 2 opens up

we're gonna form an OD team and roll through contenders trials

[next mesa]

easily

not dropping a single map

[gusty rampart]

We win easily

4-0 Shanghai Grand Finals

[willow tartan]

Shanghai 4-0 was to be expected anyways

[plush grail]

Stfu ur all silver

[vagrant jacinth]

Wdym

We'd be dominant

[plush grail]

we all suck at ow

and communication would be shit

😎

[noble nexus]

sickening

[plush grail]

based*

[tacit skiff]

no that actually makes me want to hurl

[vagrant jacinth]

🤢

Delete this

[willow tartan]

idk about all the best players of ow1 but fate fleta lip leejaegon izayaki and void are lock ins

dunno who the best bench rider of ow1 was though

[plush grail]

tsuna

[timber plover]

does anyone know if earned tokens expire

i have like 850 and apparently they expire at the end of the year or something

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/getamazed_ow/status/1474821916431114245?s=21

GetAmazed (@GetAmazed_ow)

I guess @01_Esports teams are just farming trophies.
2021 is over, I'm really excited to announce what is coming next for me. 👀

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205

Twitter · Dec 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

[worn falcon]

There are more dota and cs trophies than ow here

[gusty rampart]

Made this in like 3 minutes

[stuck radish]

Houston Outlaws

[gusty rampart]

The only mistake I made I'd say is swap Charge and Defiant

Houston Outlaws is looking god tier

[stuck radish]

who did they pick up again

[gusty rampart]

Pelican

Iris

[stuck radish]

oh yeah

nvm then

[tepid ibex]

Toronto that low?

[gusty rampart]

They're looking mighty mediocre

And the rest of the teams have just shown better rosters

[tepid ibex]

NYXL with just flora

[gusty rampart]

Literally their leaks have said

Yaki

Kellen

Myunbong

GangNamJin

[next mesa]

I'd swap Dallas and glads lol

No cap

Maybe shock above outlaws

[gusty rampart]

I disagree with both

[next mesa]

Nice lost tho

List*

[gusty rampart]

I think Glads just overall have better roster

[next mesa]

Any list with Seoul in the top 3

Maybe

We don't know how good pati is

Support line I'd say is equal

[gusty rampart]

Near the end of the season people really figured out Fuel

Idk man

Fastro, Shu, Skewed is stacked as fuck

[next mesa]

Tank line I'd still take fearless hanbin over anyone but fate void

Yeah but it's a rotation

I'd give minor edge to shu but Chiyo is cracked

[stuck radish]

good thing only 1 of them can be used right

[gusty rampart]

The real question about Glads is

Will FunnyAstro play Brig or will Skewed play Brig

[next mesa]

Skewed

For sure

Also I take fearless over reiner

[gusty rampart]

Honestly unless Mercy or Lucio is meta he'll sadly be benched

[next mesa]

And hanbin in a solo tank scenario probably best tank in the league

[gusty rampart]

Hanbin is crazy good

[next mesa]

He's just too cracked

As for dps

Like Edison and guriyo was underwhelming but I won't be surprised if one of them turns out to be cracked

I have more faith than like pati turning out to be super cracked

I also trust the coaches more

[wispy yacht]

glads coaching is the only "weak link" ig you could say is on that org

dpei wasnt the best coach but im not so sure about face

[next mesa]

Even tho they somehow got beat by ATL that roster is proven and they just added more firepower

[wispy yacht]

dpei wasnt bad, he did win cc

[next mesa]

Like at worst this roster is as good as last year

[wispy yacht]

yeah

the talent on that roster is stacked

as long as the roster plays up to expectations

they make an easy deep playoff run

[noble nexus]

The only pieces of the glads roster that might look weaker than last season are MT and hitscan

And that’s assuming the worst

I don’t think Reiner will be as good as muze was tho

Overall

[wispy yacht]

i think reiner is gonna do better than muze

but that might be a hot take

i mean when you're coming from the best na contenders team in history

thats nothing to scoff at

[noble nexus]

Hadi came from the best EU contenders team in history

And roar was meant to be good

So was Mag

[wispy yacht]

the thing is

hadi is good

[noble nexus]

I don’t trust contendies MTs anymore

[wispy yacht]

him and sparkr were probably my fave two players from that roster

every1 else sucked

hadi was outplaying people in brawl

[noble nexus]

Hadi did like one thing noteworthy thing and got carried by the dps line imo

[wispy yacht]

could say that

but i definitely think he did have his highlights this season

[noble nexus]

Either way Hadi isn’t even close to comparable to Muze and hopefully not comparable to Reiner

So my point still stands

[wispy yacht]

fair enough

just noteworthy to point out that hadi still managed to stand out and do smth on a roster of terrible players

kellex ripa and molf1g were doing him NO favors

[noble nexus]

Mofl1g wasn’t that bad

He wasn’t good but he wasn’t detrimental to Hadi

They definitely would’ve looked better without Kellex and Ripa tho

[wispy yacht]

yep

[noble nexus]

But hey now they have the racist and Admiral right?

[wispy yacht]

yes

i think so

[noble nexus]

Improvements

[wispy yacht]

i havent really concerned myself with their roster updates

[noble nexus]

Their dps line is looking like the strongest part of their lineup again

[wispy yacht]

but they did sign the racist

so they have shax backbone and sparkr?

i just looked at their twitter

idk what their current roster is rn

[noble nexus]

Yeah

And that’s actually a pretty good dps line imo

I think tanks are gonna be an issue for them next season unless Hadi is actually good and the “he just had a bad support line” copium pulls through

[wispy yacht]

hadi poko is fine

i think hadi is good

he'll do fine

he showed glimpses of it this season

and he probably wouldve been able to do more if he had a backline that wasn't just a tad bit better than the valiants

[next mesa]

Hadi was trash poko is probably washed overall London is definitely the worse team this season

Valiant above charge and philly not even trolling with nohill

His brain is just so big

[north relic]

i agree flora can 1v5 titans

imma wait until rosters are basically finished for preseason rankings

[twilit oriole]

….

[twilit oriole]

Pelican is legit the only god player on that team, danteh is mid, lastro is only good on zen and even then he was mid for the rest of last szn besides last szn, iris is good, and then they don’t even have a MT HS MS but we can rate them god tier?

So much wrong with that list that it’d take way to long to list all

[next mesa]

who looks better, defiant, outlaws or reign

[twilit oriole]

As of now it’s defiant

Atl have shit coaching

It’s so bad

[next mesa]

ATL coaching isn't shit

lol

[twilit oriole]

?

Bro

[next mesa]

have you been watching this season

lol

or nah

[twilit oriole]

They released unter and some other coaches no?

[next mesa]

also KDG is so overrated

did they

that's a bummer

[twilit oriole]

He isn’t, he was able to make to make a medicore roster still seem to do good

[next mesa]

no lol

[twilit oriole]

Yes lol

[next mesa]

he was able to make a mediocre roster mediocre

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/chiyo_ow1/status/1475093618293878792?s=21

ChiYo (@ChiYo_ow1)

Reaction rate https://t.co/xzdpkSYA2U

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Twitter · Dec 26, 2021, 1:18 PM

[next mesa]

gg

[tropic herald]

Sheeeeee

[next mesa]

this choyo kid

chiyo kid

so fucking cracked

[north relic]

i can definitely see whats happening

[next mesa]

holy fuck

so good

def better than jecse

[twilit oriole]

Chr0n0g is better 🙏

[next mesa]

we'll see

[twilit oriole]

It’s gonna be one of them

For top MS

[next mesa]

yes its vindaim i agree

people really forgot kdg coached 2019 seoul

might be one of the worse coached teams

sadge

[twilit oriole]

Didn’t they make GF?

[next mesa]

huh?

[noble nexus]

no?

[next mesa]

2019 seoul?

lol

[noble nexus]

they did in 2020

[twilit oriole]

I swear seoul made grand finals once

[noble nexus]

2019 was vanc shock

[twilit oriole]

Ah

[next mesa]

i love how zarya tried to grav him

[tepid ibex]

2020

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/FLMayhem/status/1475164510600192003

Florida Mayhem (@FLMayhem)

Some #MambaMentality for your timeline today 🔨😤 https://t.co/d5NN2QKhjD

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Twitter · Dec 26, 2021, 6:00 PM

fucking hilarious

[fallen turret]

Good list, chengdu over Atlanta, and swap shock and Seoul

Also Boston is worse than nyxl and Florida

[next mesa]

boston is not worse than florida

agree with nyxl tho

based, 100% not biased seoul fan's list

[mortal cipher]

NYXL hasn’t made announcement yet have they signing wise

[next mesa]

we know who they will have tho

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[next mesa]

and its pretty cracked

especially if they get xzi nyxl too but that one's not sure

[north relic]

xzi nyxl 💦

[mortal cipher]

Xzi ooh my

[gusty rampart]

Not at all. Pelican hard carried Reign and Ir1s Bap is one of the best. Piggy imo is a slept on Off Tank. He has the best Sigma and his D.Va and Zarya were extremely good as well. Lastro maybe only good at Zen but Zen is looking meta in OW2 and Ir1s is good. Danteh I feel is like their mascot lmao. If they get a good hitscan he'll just be benched lmao.

[gusty rampart]

Shock are showing weakness in their tank role and lack of main support can be worrying

And Chengdu

Idk man

They're either going to do well again or they're going to be dogshit again

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[gusty rampart]

And I feel they're gonna be dogshit again

[next mesa]

only player thats not good on outlaws is danteh

[mortal cipher]

Chundgu is either rlly good or dog water

[next mesa]

and lastro will be benched in non zen metas but thats fine because iris' worst hero is probably zen

chengdu will be good

leave and apr1ta dps line is probably top 5 no cap

[mortal cipher]

You never know

Tru

[next mesa]

their weakness was leave being the best at everything he plays

apr1ta can handle hitscan now

[mortal cipher]

Yeah without leave they fail

[next mesa]

jinmu will be permabenched except on pharah genji metas

[fallen turret]

Have they signed aprita?

[next mesa]

he's coming

[mortal cipher]

Not sure

[next mesa]

they're not going anywhere else

my man is literally chinese proper

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[next mesa]

and he's on ur academy team

lol

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[next mesa]

if he got stolen it would've been announced

imo

[gusty rampart]

Danteh is highly overrated

[next mesa]

by the other team

yes i agree

[gusty rampart]

If they get a good Main Support they're gonna be good

[twilit oriole]

Piggy Dva was no where near extremely good, it needs a lot of work done on it

[gusty rampart]

Just fucking keep Jake off Brig

He has a good enough D.Va

[next mesa]

piggy dva was good

[twilit oriole]

It was good enough to keep his weight

[mortal cipher]

Jake was only good on one game with brig

[next mesa]

shotcalling is overrated

jake is not good

like unironically washed

[twilit oriole]

Houston have to many, and I mean way to many holes, no HS MT MS

[mortal cipher]

Maybe just stay coach or play when absolutely needed

[fallen turret]

Next season will Jake:
A: play dps
B: play main sup
C: caster
D: Coach
E: all of the above

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[next mesa]

actually not that i think about it

[gusty rampart]

Make him a caster again

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[next mesa]

boston above outlaws for now is pretty good

[mortal cipher]

Wasn’t he originally a DPS or support

[next mesa]

id do that

he was DPS

[mortal cipher]

Thought so

[gusty rampart]

Honestly I think it'd be awesome if super retired and he joined the desk or became a caster

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

When is that happening

[next mesa]

i hope when he retires

[fallen turret]

Super space caster duo

[next mesa]

in like 3 years

[gusty rampart]

I'd kill for this

[mortal cipher]

Probably

That be an amazing duo

[next mesa]

i think he'll do so good on streaming

[mortal cipher]

The California duo

[next mesa]

and come back to OWL once in a while as a guest

i doubt super works for owl full time

[gusty rampart]

Super could very easily quit OWL and go stream full time

[mortal cipher]

Super becomes coach

[gusty rampart]

Nah I don't think he'd ever coach ngl

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[fallen turret]

He said he would never coach

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[gusty rampart]

Also rare Mayhem banger

[fallen turret]

Outlaws look good, as long as they plan on signing like three more players

[next mesa]

lol yeah some of the tiktoks are so cringe

[fallen turret]

Do you think Philly will sign sado or jjangu for mt?

[next mesa]

all i know is they will probably get sanguinar aimgod

[earnest leaf]

mfs underrating danteh, unlucky

[vagrant jacinth]

That is a banger

[neat steppe]

E

[tacit skiff]

if jjangu doesn't end up getting signed to a team, it'll be a travesty

[vagrant jacinth]

Realised I replied to the wrong message lmao

[tropic herald]

There is a few issues

[vagrant jacinth]

I thought jjangu wouldve been picked up right away

[vagrant jacinth]

London bottom? We are no longer acquaintances

[raw ermine]

No you really don't

[vagrant jacinth]

Get outta here

[next mesa]

STFU

[noble nexus]

Damn look it’s Luigi’s gf

[gusty rampart]

Justice Outlaws too low, Spark too high

[earnest leaf]

seoul too high

reign too low imo

Not 100% on top of NA and bottom of apac

I could easily see glads going below reign depending

And florida-justice could be re-shuffled in any order based on the rosters

[noble nexus]

I'm not biased I swear

[tropic herald]

based

[noble nexus]

based

[next mesa]

Good apac list

Questionable NA list

[noble nexus]

tbf my top 4 is complete bias

for NA

outside of the top 4 of NA I think it's solid

[next mesa]

It probay goes Dallas glads shock/reign and then defiant

[noble nexus]

without bias I'd agree

[next mesa]

Unironically Boston maybe above outlaws

Really depends on the rest of outlaws

Remember folks Boston has striker

[noble nexus]

yeah outlaws need like 3-4 more players to be a full roster and people already calling them a god team

oh shit boston does have striker

let me move them up a bit

jk

[next mesa]

Someone put a gun to my head and the guy says "u get to pick 1 player to 1v1 me on tracer if they win you live" I'm still picking striker

[earnest leaf]

I feel like this season we're gonna get a repeat of last year

Glads/Shock/Reign/Fuel/Outlaws just duking it out in top5

and meta decides who is on top

can't forget outlaws got pelican/danteh/iris

[vagrant cargo]

Toronto that low is a crime

[noble nexus]

and no MS player, MT player or dedicated hitscan

[earnest leaf]

toronto is just weird

[noble nexus]

outlaws rn look good but they still need like half a team lol

[vagrant cargo]

torontos core is nuts and hotba is fine for solo tank

[earnest leaf]

they have some really nice parts, then some questionable ones, and some unknowns

Will have to see

[vagrant cargo]

his mechanics are p good he just sux at peeling

[noble nexus]

hotba/muze cover the tank heroes super well

[vagrant cargo]

i mean the questionable part is just Finale tbh lol

but altough is better on all heros

[earnest leaf]

chorong was the o2 blast ms right?

or one of them I think

[vagrant cargo]

yes

no actually

Talon

[earnest leaf]

ah ok

[vagrant cargo]

He was the best MS in tier 2

crazy good

Also capable of playing a nasty bap

[earnest leaf]

But I will say that the middle of my list could very easily be shuffled around

[noble nexus]

Ch0r0ng Twilight is super good

[vagrant cargo]

can u send me the link

So i can do one

[vagrant briar]

!!ontopic

[young fractal]

This channel is only for serious, on-topic, discussion. For general discussion, please use #general-discussion.

[vagrant cargo]

top 2 NA fr

[earnest leaf]

slmn.io is the site

[vagrant cargo]

ty

id say the only better backline is glads

[noble nexus]

in NA yeah

[earnest leaf]

I'm really curious to see how Finn/Viol2t does

[noble nexus]

I hope they sign a MS 🙏

if I have to see viol2t Lucio ever again

I might cry

on the spot

[earnest leaf]

Viol2t lucio wasn't bad tbf

just

meh

[noble nexus]

it wasn't good either

[earnest leaf]

just mid af

[noble nexus]

and if you're gonna sign half of 02 and then put viol2t on Lucio you're clapped

[earnest leaf]

But it will depend on what supports are strong

and what comps shock will want to run

They can run the tracer echo shit

But they might want to run rein comps with super

[noble nexus]

they still also only have super for tank right?

[earnest leaf]

yea

[earnest leaf]

imo they should keep him the only tank

[vagrant cargo]

agreed

hes Essential to their comms and nuts on OT too

[earnest leaf]

changing tanks around with a new roster will only hurt things

[noble nexus]

yeah he's actually decent at dva n stuff

[vagrant cargo]

like super is easily one of the best pieces for solo tank

[earnest leaf]

I don't think his OTs will be bad enough to warrant someone playing over him at least

[noble nexus]

super is a cheat code for team synergy

[vagrant cargo]

yuh

[earnest leaf]

Should be solid enough with who he has backing him up

[noble nexus]

it'll be the proper show whenever shock plays anyways

super just has to not feed on whatever he plays

[vagrant cargo]

yuh

proper fr the best dps in NA

[tropic herald]

yo what did gzc do that makes them there

[next mesa]

What is this nyxl simp

[vagrant cargo]

Molly cr0ng and the dps line

cr0ng for solo tank is a cheatcode

[tropic herald]

oh yeah i forgot they had molly

[next mesa]

I do put fusion below charge is

[vagrant cargo]

assuming they get garg or fury

[next mesa]

Idk about spark tho

[vagrant cargo]

spark SUCK

they are FRAUDS

[next mesa]

Their DPS line is fucking and their supports actually pretty good

[tropic herald]

but spark have shy :/

[next mesa]

Superich so good

[vagrant cargo]

shy cant deadlift

[next mesa]

Okay anyways gotta go work

[earnest leaf]

I legit only heard about shy for one stage then people stopped talking about him

[next mesa]

See u nerfs

[vagrant cargo]

every team in apac has a crazy hitscan

Superrich is good but not az his peak anymore

[tropic herald]

also to toronto

[vagrant cargo]

Toronto number 1

[tropic herald]

they have players that are good but i have reservations just bc i have thought things like this before and been let down

toronto curse

[vagrant cargo]

they got Moby now

and kdg

[tropic herald]

hmm moby i fan

[vagrant cargo]

Moby mad slept on i fear

[earnest leaf]

It will be fun to watch twilight be a perma starter again

[noble nexus]

twilight is gonna go crazy

[vagrant cargo]

twilight muze ch0r0ng are all top 5 at qorst at their role

and altough heesu are both still A tier

[tropic herald]

twilight chronong

finale is interesting ngl

something funky about that pickup

[vagrant cargo]

no.

He doesnt exist.

hes Not real.

his pickup never happened.

[tropic herald]

sometimes i forget that next season is only 1 tank and i keep rating tanklines off that

but then i remember

guangzhou will never have to field rio

[noble nexus]

thank the fucking lords

it amazes me that he still has a spot in the league

[north relic]

what is the justice roster rn

[tropic herald]

mag happy decay assassin opener krillin vigilante

i think

[tepid ibex]

Yes

[north relic]

how good is krillin

[tropic herald]

alright

hes alright

[tepid ibex]

And kalios

[north relic]

ngl i dont know anybody from their support line

[tropic herald]

vigialante is pretty solid

opener was W H

[noble nexus]

their dps line is incredibly inconsistent imo

[earnest leaf]

they had to get opener because they got rid of closer

[noble nexus]

once every few weeks they'll have a crazy dps line tho

[tropic herald]

i feel like justice will live n die by how good of a week the dps have

or if mag plays monkey

but i believe in the mag redemption despite justice looking awful

[earnest leaf]

Mag on monkey looked good despite his team at least

so I'm sure he'll do well on it again

[noble nexus]

maybe they'll have a good enough support line for mag to play a rein comp well too

cuz his rein was good imo

[north relic]

mag rein was excellent

[earnest leaf]

mag rein didn't show me enough

Would get giga dicked by oge, then hard gap fearless, then next map fearless would spank him

[north relic]

this is all i see

[earnest leaf]

yea it was some kr round

mag was rolling fearless, but his team just choked

then next map fearless sat him on his ass over and over

but that can also be fearless being inconsistent on rein

[willow tartan]

how u guys doin power rankings when teams arent finalised yet and we literally havent seen the game

is this a how good they will be in ow2 or how good they probably are in ow1

[earnest leaf]

Pure guesswork based off the rosters atm

[north relic]

im actually an ow2 playtester

[vagrant jacinth]

Tell us something about ow2

[north relic]

sonic is overpowered

[sullen berry]

knuckles meta OP

sonic + sigma + doom

[worn falcon]

https://www.ggrecon.com/articles/the-greatest-six-best-main-tank-of-overwatch-1/

tldr Fate best MT

https://www.ggrecon.com/articles/the-greatest-six-best-off-tank-of-overwatch-1/

and Choi best OT

gotcha, Choi > Void

[noble nexus]

I think it's overall

[worn falcon]

yeh, he is talking about OW1 in general

all the seasons

[noble nexus]

and s1 they never really played s2 Choi > Void s3 Choi = Void s4 Choi < Void

it's a tossup without recency bias

[north relic]

i would say void since his peak is higher

[earnest leaf]

Choi is too decorated imo

I would say recency bias would make you pick void, but not really

overwatch shit is so weird with recency bias and nostalgia bias at the same time somehow

But s2 choi was just better than everyone, s3 choi and void were pounding their regions, and s4 choi got caught up with shock crumbling

Although we got to see choi playing out of his mind in playoffs

[balmy wolf]

choi was the most consistent OT we've seen so far, void had the highest peak of any OT

[fallen turret]

who's best flex dps of all time?

[north relic]

I gotta say fleta if we are talking all time

[next mesa]

Nah void is also hella consistent

He also had a good career in Apex too

[fallen turret]

https://twitter.com/lavaliant/status/1475316435572248576?s=21

Los Angeles Valiant (@LAValiant)

Hope you all had a great Christmas! ❄️

We are here to confirm that No.14 Xiaodong “ColdesT” Tong is joining our support lineup!

We know he’ll be doing his best in LA Valiant. Welcome to the team, @OW_ColdEst !

#WingsOut

(*Pending League Approval)

Twitter · Dec 27, 2021, 4:03 AM

[tiny pollen]

when are they picking up ameng

*when will it be announced

[next mesa]

lets goo

[gusty rampart]

Valiant will be mid at best

[tawdry hamlet]

Ameng ez pickup

[gusty rampart]

Hee hee hee ha

[next mesa]

mid at worse

mid is good

for this roster

[gusty rampart]

I still don't see them winning very many matches

[timber plover]

does anyone know if earned owl tokens expire i have quite a lot saved up and dont wanna lose any

[earnest leaf]

They do not expire

[tacit skiff]

https://twitter.com/ChengduHunters/status/1475423332975603715?s=20

Chengdu Hunters (@ChengduHunters)

LENGSA (Jingyi Chen) officially leaves Chengdu Hunters Academy “Team Chaser” and becomes a free agent.

Thank LENGSA for supporting Chasers to bring back two trophies, writing an unforgettable chapter of Contenders this year.

Wish him all the best!
#TeamChaser #ChasingExtreme

Twitter · Dec 27, 2021, 11:08 AM

possible valiant signing?

team chaser had back to back grand finals wins in china this year

but i dont watch contenders china

so im not sure if this guy is good or benched

[plush grail]

dont care

not paris news

[tacit skiff]

paris worst eu team

poko solos

[plush grail]

im sorry

but fuck off

[tacit skiff]

daan bouta be diffed by hadi

on lan

[plush grail]

remember when hadi had a top 5 ball???

i don't

[tacit skiff]

daan on ball kekw

[plush grail]

i do remember when daan was considered a top 5 ball

[tacit skiff]

i do remember daan trying to stop world hunger

over and over

like kellex

stand1 better unfortunately

[plush grail]

fuck no

daan is a great ball

[tacit skiff]

fuck yes

[plush grail]

and make the winning call in paris vs glads

[tacit skiff]

the glads lmao

its not hard to diff muze

now try reiner on for size

[plush grail]

ur all lucky owl has no homestands rn

[next mesa]

Lol 1v1 me irl

[plush grail]

i would if i could

[tacit skiff]

not that anyone would even show up to a paris homestand

[plush grail]

all this hate

what team do u support

[tacit skiff]

bomegalulston

[plush grail]

Hhahahah

stop talking

[tacit skiff]

glister isnt enough

remember that

[plush grail]

onigod >>>>>>> glister

[tacit skiff]

marginal improvement

try going from im37 to striker

big improvement

[plush grail]

hahaha no

both are ass

[tacit skiff]

champion of copium

paris beats dallas
boston beats paris
boston is best in na

[plush grail]

cope harder

[tacit skiff]

time for paris to be the same rank as last year

same mediocre team

that cant compete

with 2/3 of the league

[plush grail]

call me a coper

but i really think

daan/vestola/naga/glister/kaan/dridro is top tier

[tacit skiff]

punk solos unfortunately

[plush grail]

vestola and daan were nutty tanks on certain heroes

naga is big flex man

glister was coached by fucking crusty

and kaan is just a nutter

[tacit skiff]

the only above average players on paris are kaan and glister

[plush grail]

and naga

[tacit skiff]

eh

[plush grail]

i'd say naga is like on the top of mid tier fdps

not quite top tier

but close

[tacit skiff]

midtier at best

all these new fdps players knocking current fdps down a few pegs

[plush grail]

who

[tacit skiff]

s9mm

uh

i had a list earlier hold on

[plush grail]

go ahead

copium

[tacit skiff]

i could name more fdps better than naga than worse

same could be said for valentine

tbf valentine + im37 was never a great dps duo

now we have victoria, valentine and striker

cracked

[vagrant jacinth]

Add shadow to ow2

[vagrant jacinth]

I was supposed to go the London one pepehands

[plush grail]

cry

[tacit skiff]

I was supposed to go to a Boston homestand in the summer of 2020

glad that didn't end up happening for two different reasons

[vagrant cargo]

idk i dont think anyone zhere is top 5

as of now

[vagrant cargo]

s9mm as of now is not better than naga lol

NA fdps is like:
1.proper
2.pelican
3.kevster
4.sp9rk1e
and then for 5th either altough or naga

[twilit oriole]

Bro thinks Reiner is going to be even tougher💀

Riener was just a upgrade on rien, everything else was a downgrade

[noble nexus]

doesn't Reiner have a good ball too?

I mean I'd much rather have muze but Reiner won't be terrible

[tacit skiff]

people sleeping on at and Redbird players

yikes

[noble nexus]

aren't you a boston fan?

that's the real yikes here

[willow tartan]

i think muze had higher peak potential but i honestly dont mind reiner taking over

[north relic]

reiner like every other na tank is a rein otp specialist

[twilit oriole]

Fr

His only thing that really shined is rein

[willow tartan]

really?

[tropic herald]

Did you guys watch NA contenders

Or did you read Reiner’s name and region and think hmmm probably rein otp

[random magnet]

i was hoping that yes

i shed a tear when i saw the gator orisa last grand finals

[willow tartan]

the hard thing is that nobody outside of the top NA contender teams play other comps properly

theres just no scale to measure

[random magnet]

the world is a better place when orisa has a null pickrate

[turbid cargo]

Is coldest good?

[tropic herald]

He’s definitely an upgrade but I wouldn’t consider him anything special

[north relic]

upgrade of muze is pretty special imo

[noble nexus]

Empathy was talking about coldest being an upgrade over wya I assume

[tacit skiff]

nothing beats wya + highbee

[plush grail]

luigi + sans dps line

godlike

[north relic]

false

[plush grail]

seek help

[tacit skiff]

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT

NOOOOOO

it's okay

Crimzo solos

[twilit oriole]

He’s not an upgrade lmao

Rein is the only Upgrade

Ball is the same, Winston is a downgrade, Orisa is a slight downgrade

[tropic herald]

.

[noble nexus]

it's okay Empathy atleast I'm not braindead and realised what you meant <3

[pastel zinc]

Yo people that play OW just a quick question, when joining some sessions people get kicked as their stats aren’t that good. But what I’d like to know (for DPS and tanks) what stats are looked at and what should those stats be at to be a ‘good’ player? Console player and do these numbers change depending on your rank?

[next mesa]

Winrate

[noble nexus]

I value weapon accuracy

I want the people with the lowest weapon accuracies on my team

[north relic]

quick melee accuracy

[gusty rampart]

Naga is EU

[leaden bluff]

Is playing in na

[vagrant cargo]

So is kevster

[gusty rampart]

Kevster plays on a NA team

[leaden bluff]

Naga too

[gusty rampart]

Naga plays on an EU team

[leaden bluff]

Paris is playing on na

[gusty rampart]

Fair

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[hot onyx]

Luigi tracer Sans sombra > Fleta tracer Lip sombra

[next mesa]

🤡 🤡

🤡 🤡 🤡

[willow tartan]

nothing wrong with saying dallas will be better than los angeles

[next mesa]

It's not

Dallas is better than glads

lol

my problem w the statement is "glads have the most washed rosters ever made"

[willow tartan]

yeah its more about if the glads roster can catch up to dallas

then which team would you say has the most washed roster in the league

[next mesa]

There's not really a roster that's watched

washed

[willow tartan]

well lets defined washed as in like

they have a much higher peak than they are currently

or it doesnt have to be right now

just in league history

[tropic herald]

S1 Dallas and Seoul

[next mesa]

yes

probably

and S3 NYXL

imo

[willow tartan]

i dont want to be reminded of s1 seoul

[next mesa]

sadge

lets put

jehong monke

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1475550149019684872?s=21

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the Houston Outlaws have been in talks with former Team CC DPS Ji-han "Ezhan" Lee.

Interesting is supposedly high on the Outlaws side of things

Twitter · Dec 27, 2021, 7:32 PM

[twilit oriole]

Mid player

[next mesa]

woah woah

ezhan is cracked

[next mesa]

wrong

sadly

[twilit oriole]

Okay fine, above average

[earnest leaf]

God I hate the 0 iq brainlet fucking takes about ans

[next mesa]

yeah about

[next mesa]

ikr

lol

[earnest leaf]

Guy jackhammers the league for an entire season and wins 2 tourneys and GF

[next mesa]

calling him washed with like 0 basis to back it

[earnest leaf]

Retires for a bit, comes back WHEN NONE OF HIS HEROES ARE META INTO A BROKEN SHOCK, and gets called washed

[twilit oriole]

Crusty brung him back to save his legacy belive it or not

[earnest leaf]

Just annoying when people act like ans got to come back into the exact same team with everything all good

Gurantee if widow/ashe are meta when he comes back, he goes right back to pounding

[next mesa]

why are people acting like iced was the clear best choice lol

for outlaws

they are going korean and honestly ezhan over iced in this situation i just thought it'd be diem or mer1t

[earnest leaf]

well not full korean since they got danteh

so it would be fair to assume they would get another western player if the player fit well

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/artemiis19/status/1475554498483572752

artemis ✯ (@artemiis19)

people out here not getting their 3rd covid shot but accusing people of being carried in ranked.

bro, you’re worried about the wrong booster.

Likes

113

Twitter · Dec 27, 2021, 7:49 PM

danteh is just a mascot

its pelican's team now

he is the alpha

[earnest leaf]

Danteh/pelican dps line is nasty though

[cedar oasis]

danteh mad overrated

[earnest leaf]

Outlaws can actually run tracer/sombra and tracer/echo

Nah danteh is rated properly imo

solid A tier Fdps

Just perma stuck on a poverty team

[plush grail]

Paris

[earnest leaf]

but they actually upgraded well this year

[cedar oasis]

danteh is mid

[earnest leaf]

noidontthinkso

[cedar oasis]

hes not even high mid hes mid mid

overall hes mid

[earnest leaf]

Lmao no

Mid is people like assassin

Or valentine

If you think danteh is close to them, you are smoking something

[next mesa]

danteh is B

[cedar oasis]

he has like 2 heroes hes top tier on and the rest is mid

thats mid

[next mesa]

exactly

and on tracer sombra he's not even like top tier lol

A tier at the very best

[earnest leaf]

Good tracer/echo/sombra/mei

[fallen turret]

Nah danteh is A

[earnest leaf]

Which is like 99% of what he has to play

[next mesa]

pelican is better at everything

[earnest leaf]

Eh not sombra/tracer imo

[next mesa]

his sombra is not that good

[cedar oasis]

what hitscan doesnt have a good tracer

[fallen turret]

Danteh will play in tracer Sombra

[next mesa]

Ans

[fallen turret]

Ans

[cedar oasis]

i forgot he existed

[earnest leaf]

happy

[next mesa]

in tracer sombra meta they will suck

[earnest leaf]

?

[fallen turret]

No?

[next mesa]

because pelican will be on one of his worst heroes

either sombra or tracer

pelican tracer is nasty

[cedar oasis]

hes only good on tracer sombra and on all the other heroes ther are many people better then him at it

[next mesa]

so he'll probably be on tracer

danteh's tracer isn't even A tier

[earnest leaf]

Nah you're trolling me now

[next mesa]

his sombra is barely A tier

[fallen turret]

And danteh Sombra is good

[next mesa]

nah there's plenty of tracers better than danteh

[fallen turret]

Pelican tracer is good

So what’s the problem?

[earnest leaf]

Well no shit there are better tracers than danteh

Doesn't mean his isn't good

[next mesa]

yeah

he's just not top tier in anything

[cedar oasis]

but hes not top tier

[fallen turret]

He could be

[earnest leaf]

You don't need omega S tier players at everything to win

Look at dallas

[next mesa]

Id say he hit his peak already

[earnest leaf]

Sparkle's tracer was by no means top tier

and they won tourneys with it

Nah imo he hasn't peaked

[next mesa]

sparkle is top tier on like 3 heroes

at least

[cedar oasis]

to be top tier youd need to be a tier at most if not all the heroes

[next mesa]

i suppose

[earnest leaf]

two of those heroes are meta once every 8 years

[fallen turret]

Sparkle is a top echo, doom fist, Genji

[next mesa]

but i dont see outlaws having that synergy with danteh

that can make up for it

sparkle's sym

probably

sparkle's echo is a bit overrated

still good though

[cedar oasis]

sparkle is also good at all of the other flex dps

[earnest leaf]

Sparkle's echo is good but gets gapped by top echos

[next mesa]

id say he was like solidly fourth or fifth best

[fallen turret]

Also sparkle reaper is pretty nasty

[next mesa]

yeah

but also its reaper

[cedar oasis]

who cant play reaper tho

[twilit oriole]

Danteh is solid mid

[earnest leaf]

I'd probably take 5 people on echo over sparkle off the top of my head

[next mesa]

but imo thats better than having 2 heroes that you're just not top tier on

[fallen turret]

Yaki>sparkle

[next mesa]

like whats the point

I take leave fleta pelican

and then sparkle is probably fourth

[earnest leaf]

actually 6 echos

[next mesa]

shy on a good day maybe

i liked doha's echo too fell off sadly

[cedar oasis]

i would rather take someone who is very good at all the heros then some guy whos only great at 2 of them

[next mesa]

yeah but here's the problem

[earnest leaf]

Nero/Yaki/Kevster/Fleta/Pelican/Leave

[next mesa]

danteh is not good at any

[earnest leaf]

Danteh doesn't need to hyperflex on his current roster

[next mesa]

except being decent at sombra and tracer

[cedar oasis]

people say danteh is a good tracer

[earnest leaf]

All he has to do is run tracer/sombra most likely

[cedar oasis]

idk if its true

[next mesa]

im saying the heroes that he specialises on

[fallen turret]

Nero is not on the same level as the rest of those guys

[next mesa]

he's not even that good lol