but i do believe that london will do better in 2022
#esports-discussion
willow tartan
vagrant cargo
nah
tiny pollen
London easily beats valiant and florida
willow tartan
considering valiant has 2 players, that is understandable
hot onyx
London and Florida are extremely similar but Florida probably better due to a lack of the Prov1de toxicity factor
Which is kind of a shame because I had faith in the Hadi redemption arc
vagrant cargo
London easily beats valiant and florida
valiant DICKS London
diya Innovation becky coldesr nohill goes so hard
tiny pollen
Hadi is literally so goated
Who tf is that lineup
Valiant fraudulent mickey mouse team
vagrant jacinth
Fax
trail perch
valiant is just superior to most of NA lmao
Valiant looks like an all star CN lineup
worn falcon
FREEFEEEEEEEEED
next mesa
Chinese talent actually good tho
I think Florida has a better peak checkmate diffs i forgot who lol
Hydron is better than sparkr although maybe not better than shax on tracer
I take someone over hadi
tropic herald
Shanghai dragons s1 was all-star china team 💀 💀 💀
It really wasn’t
plush grail
me > hadi
plush grail
who asked
vagrant jacinth
Woow, guess I'll just go
vagrant jacinth
No no it's ok, ill just go cry
next mesa
Bitch
willow tartan
Shanghai dragons s1 was all-star china team 💀 💀 💀
if it were an all star team we wouldve seen the underaged players
mortal cipher
first fearless now diya
worn falcon
wot
eager fulcrum
Who are the good tanks to counter a doom and/or Tracer? Newer to the role, still internalizing basics.
Roadhogg seems easy for Doom but I haven't used him yet, anyone else help more than others?
balmy wolf
Who are the good tanks to counter a doom and/or Tracer? Newer to the role, still...
orisa and zarya might work orisa cause she can nullify most of dooms abilites, zarya cause you can save teammates from doom
earnest leaf
Dva can fuck with him hard, matrixing whoever he dives can save them since most of his kill combos rely on landing M1s
next mesa
wow
RYUJEHONG STILL WANTS TO BE PRO PLAYER
earnest leaf
Paris roster is done
plush grail
you are done
plush grail
who
next mesa
cant believe jehong wants to try and get back to pro lol
it would be a cool storyline but unless he switch his sens i dont really see it
noble nexus
shut the fuck up
noble nexus
no
plush grail
im here for u babe
noble nexus
Please dont talk to me
raw ermine
https://twitter.com/TheGuard/status/1470846057097670660
sayaplayer returned to his old name
nothing to do w/ ow
but cool
plush grail
his @ is minion
noble nexus
pretending u dont wanna talk in ed but flirting in dm
You don’t talk to me in dms
Stop pretending
🙄🙄
plush grail
u wish i would dm u
noble nexus
I actually don’t
noble nexus
Minion better
next mesa
saya wasnt super impressive in T1 but we all knew his mechanics are cracked
T1 as a whole was bad
raw ermine
his @ is minion
it's always been that bruv
read the tweet, then read the next tweet (open in browser)
next mesa
he should've been their jett
noble nexus
Why are you still here
Paris isn’t going to be good next season either
You don’t need to follow owl to realise that
plush grail
so mean
noble nexus
Just like go get a better hobby or something
plush grail
okay bye
noble nexus
😤
golden flame
u wish i would dm u
Why don't you dm me 🥺
tawdry hamlet
Mirror Checkmate Hydron is a s4 London tier dps lineup, someone is mid, and the supports meh
Still rate them higher than London 😎
Hadi Poko bottom 2 tankline and provide is ass
fallen turret
I think florida has potential
they won't be top tier, but I think they can be better than people expect
gusty rampart
earnest leaf
Mirror Checkmate Hydron is a s4 London tier dps lineup, someone is mid, and the ...
nah it's not that bad
Those dps are probably solid B tier all around
Mirror on his specialty heroes is unironically good as fuck
iirc hydron was rated higher than aspire in na t2
next mesa
Mirror good
earnest leaf
checkmate we aren't 100% on but he pounded trials for a second year in a row
and he was benched by yaki so it's not like he was benched for being bad
gusty rampart
MirroR better
sullen berry
Banger alert
https://twitter.com/JJoNakSZN/status/1470776851975000068?t=3zwM7E1Q...
Blocked messages let's goii
Never mind that a lot of teams havent finalized their rosters this time
Diya APAC supremacy
worn falcon
Inb4 diya rusty af
next mesa
no way jose
tawdry hamlet
I'm just saying
Hadi Poko is the worst tankline in ow history besides silver 3 when he has to play something other than ball
next mesa
he was solidly b tier like 2 years ago idk man
worn falcon
Because he couldn't join last year, and not his fault
next mesa
yeah but his play probably didnt improve much
willow tartan
silver 3 winston slapped that one time on that one map for about 2 minutes
tawdry hamlet
People are down on poko because he hasn't played in two years besides farming eu open division and then losing the second Fastro went to Korea
So he's literally shown nothing
You know?
Like benched for fury and then dominates tier 3 on orisa and that's it
Besides ladder what stonks do you have to be up on?
He just strikes me as a soon type player, probably fine but nothing insane anymore
Just can't believe how many eu contenders players were passed on lmao
Rip lullsish
S4 London really ruined eu contenders rating so hard lmao
Like they fumbled the ball so hard everyone assumed if the absolute best of EU t2 is 1-15 then maybe we should avoid eu lmaoo
tropic herald
Twitter
green hollow
hello friends
im hosting a current overwatch tourney with some lmfaps from discord
if ur plat + dm for cash prize mcchicken
willow tartan
what is an lmfaps
hot onyx
Don’t know don’t care, I’ve always wanted to hard int in a tourney
rare magnet
for what game is he lft? https://twitter.com/MUNCHKING_/status/1471068771452616705
Twitter
val maybe
vagrant cargo
https://twitter.com/owlopinions/status/1470876253406302208?s=21
real
simple sentinel
anyone know when the next season of eu open div is being held?
digital cloud
Yeah, he was on crazy raccoons
tiny pollen
anyone know when the next season of eu open div is being held?
T2 and 3 are dead
next mesa
Valorant lol
digital cloud
Lol, it’ll never be more popular than owl ever was it’s first year of esports
That would be crazy T-T
gusty rampart
If Seoul doesn't do good next year I give you all permission to desecrate my grave
noble nexus
No one needs permission for that
willow tartan
I was planning on that anyways
plush grail
based
random magnet
Paris sucks fat cock
pretty colors tho D:
noble nexus
Paris’ colours are terrible what are you on about
random magnet
Paris’ colours are terrible what are you on about
what are you on
what colors do you think are good??
cursive plover
shock "colours"
balmy wolf
shock colors the greatest
cursive plover
2018 valiant and mcmayhem ftw tho
noble nexus
why tf is colours in quotations
balmy wolf
fuck spark colors, fuck toronto colors, fuck shock colors
shock has the greatest colours ever
nothing can change my mind
willow tartan
i will not attempt to argue with the stupid
twilit oriole
fuck spark colors, fuck toronto colors, fuck shock colors
Tor has such a nice colour scheme
Your high
balmy wolf
tornto isnt that good in my opinion
cedar oasis
in everyones opinion
tacit skiff
what is the significance of the Uprising joining Oxygen
vagrant jacinth
Sparks is good wdym
balmy wolf
is mano still on philly?
vagrant jacinth
Military service
earnest leaf
gonna be honest
it wasn't anything like goats
fights in goats ended incredibly quick between two good teams
in the zombie shit we saw those fights took ages
another thing with the zombie comp was it mainly centered around farming coal
build up coal, engage, rinse repeat
Goats was non-stop headbutting
worn falcon
give me more mei goats
tropic herald
static pond
But like owl step up in skill by a lot since before
raw ermine
Trust me
he will be fine
glads wouldn't settle for less than the best
vagrant jacinth
He's arrived
lost thicket
https://twitter.com/LAGladiators/status/1471208441251303425
god dayum
worn falcon
Glads with peepster, ans and pati
vagrant jacinth
Glads will pound
rare magnet
damn it actually did happen
willow tartan
https://twitter.com/LAGladiators/status/1471208441251303425
what a chad
destroy the hopes and dreams of north american valorant, leaves to play different game
vagrant jacinth
Ikr, baller move
cedar oasis
isnt that the case every season for glads
they sign some good people people think they wil be top 5 but they end up mid
earnest leaf
Bit more hope since they dropped dpei and got unter
and face as the HC now
also anyone know how good patiphan's echo is?
if it's at least A tier my worry for glads is mostly gone
vagrant jacinth
I'm sure 2020 was the only season they came below 5th in overall standings
I think they were 9th or 10th?
earnest leaf
they've been 8th/9th/10th/2nd
in order of all seasons
2nd in NA this year at least
4th overall this year
but that's with league points
want to say they would be 4th or 5th off record/map differential?
would be 5th, just checked
tawdry hamlet
I like the roster but losing moth and muze sadge
noble nexus
glads weren't mid last season you'd better stfu
smh
I'm fine with losing moth as long as he actually gets picked up elsewhere
tawdry hamlet
I have hopes for Reiner given his resume but this could have been a super team 😭
noble nexus
Reiner could also be super good but I don't trust tendies MTs anymore
tawdry hamlet
Interesting lineup they've gone with mixing contenders regions and big names
Instead of just maxing out on top tier apac players
I assumed they were just gonna replace like mirror and moth and roll with the giga super team
earnest leaf
If ans can learn tracer and sombra that roster is good to go
and if reiner can at least play winston/ball solidly
and I know his ball is already good
noble nexus
yeah his ball is def good
hopefully his winston either improves or is already good
idk I don't watch tendies so
regardless I think that assuming ans plays close to his peak form and can learn a few more heroes glads have a top 3 dps line and top 3-4 support line
tawdry hamlet
Every single team just got more stacked this year almost every shitter washed out
last nimbus
Will valiant be 0-16 again though?
tawdry hamlet
With that roster no they can easily beat charge at least
And likely philly if they stay apac
I have a bad feeling about philly 😭
north relic
they have done more than nyxl 😭
noble nexus
you mean the florida excelsior?
mortal abyss
they aren't doing anything
Not entirely their own fault…
noble nexus
I mean I’m sure alarm passing fucked up their plans a lot and it sucks but before then all they did was re-sign him and sign Mn3 and Zest
But Halo won’t report their moves so they could be doing stuff but I just don’t know
So I’m making my observations rn
trail perch
also anyone know how good patiphan's echo is?
Why?
dont they have kevster?
I think Pati is prob a top tier tracer
who can let kevster play echo
Unless im dumb and Pati is just a cracked echo
But i mostly remember him for his tracer and genji
earnest leaf
I'm gonna need to see that first
But if it is the case that pati's tracer is upwards of A+ tier or even creeping up to S, then putting kevster on echo would be good
But I think kevster is going to carry on tracer more often than his echo
worn falcon
Mfw striker went to uprising
wide minnow
plush grail
Paris sucks fat cock
I do
tawdry hamlet
Mfw uprising has had 3 controversial players now
They goin for the record
Next they'll sign redshell as a content creator lmaoo
balmy wolf
they're not doin a owl this year right?
raw ermine
willow drum
https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1471273533179371527
hm.
trim shadow
wonder how much patiphan got to return to ow
next mesa
At least 150k
novel owl
next mesa
never sadge
vagrant cargo
I'm gonna need to see that first
erza is talking bs
Patis tracer is good but its not a top 3 hero of his or at least wasnt when he was actively playing
its good and idk abt his echo but hes cracked so hes prolly comfortable on both
willow tartan
wonder how much patiphan got to return to ow
literally used valorant as a waiting room to turn 18
sullen berry
https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1471273533179371527
The gang is moving to China! (Wrong answers only)
trim shadow
https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1471273533179371527
another year of mid overwatch
next mesa
He fucked around and became one of the best duelists in the world LMAO
Fucking crackhead
trail perch
https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1471273533179371527
wait whats changing
r they moving to china?
raw ermine
the org they are owned by did some stuff for the cod league
and they're re-affirming things will be the same here
willow tartan
like a different o2 blast?
raven cave
j2o blast
mortal cipher
ooh
willow tartan
the shu spray is pretty epic
north relic
did some maniac inject hopium into streamers bloodstream
harsh sail
did some maniac inject hopium into streamers bloodstream
The copium will come back soon
north relic
whats nda
next mesa
non disclosure agreement
trim shadow
Lol
raw ermine
there are so many
trim shadow
paid statement? 
i dont rlly believe the future of ow is bright when the current ow is abadoned
raw ermine
I considered that
but friggin Samito doing it?
Sam, love him or hate him, has a sort of integrity that makes me believe it wasn't paid
trim shadow
also like going from 6v6 to 5v5 automatically makes me a doomer
raw ermine
last nimbus
blizzard doing something good?
north relic
must not accept hopium ahhhhhhhh
next mesa
LETS GOOO
plain turtle
I only trust the SUPER BITTER people from that meeting
if u can inject hopium into pessimists I will trust u
earnest leaf
also just wasted two minutes of my life for samito to basically say he's excited
north relic
reddit post link?
worn falcon
north relic
its hopium time
resist the dark forces
north relic
is this for ow1 or ow2 though
next mesa
who gives a shit
north relic
ow2 is in 3 years and ow1 is now
next mesa
if its in 3 years doubt streamers will be super excited
north relic
yea
maybe like a beta release or smth
very early but jay3 tweet says coming in 2022
and then i realize its december already
north relic
one more push and the brakes are off
next mesa
no pros is a bit sussy baka tho
north relic
yea having input from players would be great
earnest leaf
Would be a a competitive issue
Allowing a select few pros to see sneak peeks of the game hurts the competitive integrity of the league
So if they are showing stuff, have to either tell all of them, or none of them
worn falcon
If they put a few pros yeah, you get some bias
Even getting a thing of their abilities
So I'm guessing is more flexibility for content creators, for stuff like the last tourney
hot onyx
Remember that funny delay where they said that a 2023 release date couldn’t even be guaranteed
earnest leaf
They said there was no confirmed release date
Which means 2023 isn't guaranteed to be the year, nor is 2022 guaranteed
north relic
i feel like a earlier release date wouldnt make streamers this excited
people like flats were doomers on the game so it wouldnt work
north relic
doesn’t he sleep like 4 hours a day
next mesa
Don't think he was invited
It's peculiar that they announced a delay though
If there was some good things on the horizon
Just a bad PR move for like no reason
north relic
It's peculiar that they announced a delay though
what delay
next mesa
The diablo4 and ow2 delay
quick horizon
This whole NDA discussion is pissing me off because it feels like Blizzard and Content creators having a laugh at our expense
worn falcon
how so?
next mesa
yeah
its already generous enough that they can express their emotions
that tiny bit of juice
tiny pollen
yea this just annoys me
I would rather have no news
but its just gonna be a creator tourney or something
willow tartan
nah it makes sense
gotta keep your content creators or else game will perform poorly when it drops
next mesa
Yeah
Bruh dropping content in like 2 months when half of the already none existing creators left
willow tartan
don't worry, super is the only one that matters
pretty sure he accounts for like half of all ow viewership on twitch
next mesa
Indeed
last nimbus
could this be an open beta of ow2 maybe?
its gotta be something big considering the tweets
hot onyx
Dang, I was praying that they would get a good dps like Sp1nt or Donghak
vagrant jacinth
h o p i u m
little tusk
but its just gonna be a creator tourney or something
lmao that'd suck so much
vagrant cargo
Although is pretty good
i actually
prefer altough
better mei proven on echo and a nutty tracer
haksal is imo worse on everything but brig genji doom
next mesa
Lmao
twilit oriole
balmy wolf
bruh
i lost my regular
wtf
are u kidding me
EMPATHY
where u at?
WHY AM I LOSING THE ROLE WHEN WE LITERALLY HAVE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT IN THE OFF SEASON??
thats not my fault
north relic
L
random magnet
https://twitter.com/torontodefiant/status/1471857717685927937?s=21
why do all the tweets say pending league approval when they get announced
tiny pollen
cause they are pending league apporval
noble nexus
because the league can deny player signings if it's a bad PR move
they did it with with that OT that Vanc signed in 2020
I think
random magnet
because the league can deny player signings if it's a bad PR move
wdym if its a bad PR move?
north relic
because the league can deny player signings if it's a bad PR move
why is mcd in the league
random magnet
cause they are pending league apporval
couldn't they just tweet it out after it is approved to avoid a situation in case the league does not approve?
noble nexus
wdym if its a bad PR move?
like if they have a bad community image
but I think they stopped doing it
noble nexus
otherwise MCD and Prov1de would have been denied
hot onyx
WHY AM I LOSING THE ROLE WHEN WE LITERALLY HAVE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT IN THE OFF...
get smoked nerd
vagrant jacinth
https://twitter.com/torontodefiant/status/1471857717685927937?s=21
Nice pick up
hot onyx
Aw fuck yes i love free discord nitro
Hey <@&397922982632226816> do you guys love free discord nitro too?
north relic
Aw fuck yes i love free discord nitro
I have steam account already ez nitro
hot onyx
I have steam account already ez nitro
Big up, champ
plush tundra
hot onyx
Yw
north relic
Big up, champ
can’t wait to put up a team banner and make my pfp my favorite team with this nitro
just kidding who would be stupid enough to do that
hot onyx
Can’t wait to stream Epic Mickey in 1040p quality on the Yanderedev Discord Server with my newly acquired Discord Nitro
balmy wolf
bro
give me regular back
like wtf
makes no sense
that lsd still got it
when hes not even talking more than me
vagrant jacinth
Lol
raw ermine
omegalul
vagrant jacinth
Stripped of role colour pepehands
balmy wolf
yeah
like wtf
even danx still has it
??????
Who tf makes the decisions here?
i literally still talked when something happened
I HAVE 15k messages
WHY AM I NOT REGULAR???
tiny pollen
skill issue imo
tawdry hamlet
balmy wolf
so unfair
balmy wolf
skill issue imo
u have 1k and ur regular💀
i wanna ping empathy
to tell him
how mad i am
but hes gonna ban me
i want my colors back tho
tawdry hamlet
AtLanta
🤢
I like how Houston is such an L getting pelican still keeps their stonks low
Imagine s4 outlaws with pelican iris 😭
They'd have been so gooood
fallen turret
still need a main support tho
north relic
jake
north relic
when hes not even talking more than me
also I have 15k messages as well I just simply have more skill
balmy wolf
also I have 15k messages as well I just simply have more skill
lmao
this is so unfair
north relic
this is so unfair
You have the nice vet colors
balmy wolf
literally been active for 2 years straight
then im barely active for a month
and it gets taken away instantly
north relic
you strayed away from the grind
tiny pollen
diffed by carrot ow
north relic
just get more skill
balmy wolf
tiny pollen
fr
balmy wolf
@tropic herald im sorry dear lord but someone took my regular away when was active for 2 years straight and only missed out a bit last month when i had a lot going on irl
north relic
balmy wolf
north relic
empathy’s nick is mocking you
random magnet
i lost regular
tbh i thought once u gained it u couldn't lose it lol
balmy wolf
tbh i thought once u gained it u couldn't lose it lol
i thought so aswell
its funny tho
random magnet
balmy wolf
cause i was literally active all the time
random magnet
i should make that emoji not loop lol
balmy wolf
and im the first to lose it
random magnet
F
balmy wolf
like wtf
2 years active is not enough ig
literally everyone in this chat knows me
north relic
who?
balmy wolf
AND IM NOT REGULAR
next mesa
Who r u
north relic
Regular is based on your recent activity
balmy wolf
mf
balmy wolf
lol
actually
i didnt talk for a week
A FUCKING WEEK
AND U REMOVE MY REGULAR
WTFFFFF
noble nexus
gonna be honest idk who you are
balmy wolf
tf
noble nexus
??
balmy wolf
like fr?
noble nexus
fr
balmy wolf
lemme change my name back
noble nexus
k
balmy wolf
better?
noble nexus
no?
balmy wolf
WHAT
balmy wolf
WTF
noble nexus
if you're gonna come around here pretending everyone knows you atleast have a memorable name
balmy wolf
UR KIDDING ME RIGHT?
balmy wolf
okay
tepid ibex
I’ve seen them before quite a lot
balmy wolf
let me change my pfp rq
tepid ibex
Eh
noble nexus
pretty sure you're trolling rn
balmy wolf
stfu jack
noble nexus
pretending I used to speak to you daily or some shit
balmy wolf
u mf
noble nexus
we do a little bit of trolling
balmy wolf
bro
noble nexus
tbf I didn't know till I clicked your name and seen it say Marbel
noble nexus
because you're braindead
cedar oasis
I've been here way longer then ur ass and no one remembers me
balmy wolf
LLLLL
balmy wolf
I've been here way longer then ur ass and no one remembers me
cause u stopped talking for a year
balmy wolf
He only knows ansfan
hes an idiot
cedar oasis
Shut ur irrelevant ass up
balmy wolf
haha yes
next mesa
My favourite person MARBEL
balmy wolf
My favourite person MARBEL
cedar oasis
Atlantatard
cedar oasis
Overall there were not second
balmy wolf
bruh
cedar oasis
They were bottom 5 when I said that aswel
balmy wolf
grand finalist
cedar oasis
I didnt expect most of the teams to shit themselves near the finals
cedar oasis
grand finalist
So were the titans lmao
balmy wolf
So were the titans lmao
they were 1st for the whole season 2💀
cedar oasis
Yea but titans were good
Unlike a certian team
Atlanta was bottom 5 most of the season until the finals
noble nexus
paris fan and atlanta fan fight about which team is worse
balmy wolf
Atlanta
balmy wolf
Atlanta was bottom 5 most of the season until the finals
bruh
cedar oasis
They were
balmy wolf
they were top 5 for the whole season
cedar oasis
Huh
balmy wolf
only MM
noble nexus
top 5 for the whole season is a stretch
balmy wolf
they lost to toronto
noble nexus
they were top 5 at some points tho
balmy wolf
and missed th tournament
cedar oasis
They were only good at the end
cedar oasis
They were only good at the end
cedar oasis
So
cedar oasis
They got into 3 tournaments
balmy wolf
yeah
cedar oasis
So
balmy wolf
im done
raw ermine
north relic
They were only good at the end
what’s your top 5
random magnet
https://twitter.com/Hurricane/status/1471903356096552960
What even is that
Is that the ow league version of the nbas g league and the hurricane is the London spitfires team?
raw ermine
the contenders team of the Spitfire
random magnet
Boom my brain 2 big
random magnet
Lmao
half island
What is the new news abt ow2?
willow tartan
content creators got some juicy leaks and said that what's coming up is gonna be very very good
but they cant say stuff under NDA
half island
Oh
worn falcon
Support t2 guys
vagrant jacinth
content creators got some juicy leaks and said that what's coming up is gonna be...
Yes, time to inhale hopium
vagrant jacinth
https://twitter.com/Hurricane/status/1471903356096552960
Terrible day for rain
willow tartan
Yes, time to inhale hopium
used all my hopium supplies rooting for shanghai until they won a championship
getting my new shipment in april
balmy wolf
Can any of u esports people tell me what t1 t2 t3 t4 means?
willow tartan
tier of leagues
tier 1 = premier league
tier 2 = league directly below premier league
and so on
north relic
I thought it meant titanium
earnest leaf
T1 is owl, T2 is Contenders, T3 is Open Division, T4 is a meme tier and basically everything below open division
willow tartan
t1 = owl, t2 = no money
earnest leaf
that's another way to put it
worn falcon
*some money
willow tartan
what is the average contract for a top contenders player
worn falcon
3 bucks
vagrant cargo
T1 is owl, T2 is Contenders, T3 is Open Division, T4 is a meme tier and basicall...
tier 3 is not whole of OD
its playoffs/contenders trials
willow tartan
overwatch eSports are gonna be so cool when ow2 drops my excitement is overflowing
north relic
still 5 months sadge
vagrant cargo
even NTB has it
wtf..
vagrant cargo
fr
next mesa
bruh the genji skin looks so fuckin good
vagrant jacinth
Does look sweet
placid wagon
overwatch eSports are gonna be so cool when ow2 drops my excitement is overflowi...
They nerfed mei so hard
north relic
how is anyone sad about that
willow tartan
i dont care if they buff or nerf or whatever
i just wanna watch something that brings me excitement and joy again
north relic
little tusk
Dang so content creators are hyped for ow's future but pro players know jackshit
Thats a yikes
north relic
idc im on the hopium now
vestal grotto
Well Seoul and Glads are looking stacked
vagrant jacinth
idc im on the hopium now
Samesies
vagrant jacinth
CHOO CHOO
tawdry hamlet
Glads are weird for me, they upgraded mirror, got funnyastro for moth side/downgraded birdring, but then released a top 5 owl tank for a top 1 na contenders tank
And idk how to feel whether that's an upgrade or not
Assuming ans plays like he did in season 3 and Reiner is just as good as muze and they actually play funnyastro I have high hopes
vestal grotto
If they do West and East again I think the Glads and Seoul can win if top teams like Shanghai and Atlanta aren't able to beat them
north relic
im not rating valiant yet they only have like 3 players rumored
noble nexus
it's ok Levy just huffs too much hopium for us all to understand him
I generally don't think APAC are gonna be that good tho tbh outside of shanghai seoul chengdu and maybe valiant
earnest leaf
Glads are weird for me, they upgraded mirror, got funnyastro for moth side/downg...
I don't think muze will be that big of a loss
next mesa
I generally don't think APAC are gonna be that good tho tbh outside of shanghai ...
bro literally what i said
earnest leaf
Apac is going to be shd bullying everyone again, seoul doing well then losing important games, then chengdu sneaking in tourneys just to lose
next mesa
actually jjonak and smurf has never lost a game in their life
earnest leaf
Overrating jjonak again smh
next mesa
in fact he's underrated
not just because im a braindead seoul fan
his mechanics just makes me coom
north relic
arent the trials a budget workshop mode on ow1
earnest leaf
Albert said Gunba whipped it up by using info from other 5v5 modes and what not
hot onyx
I generally don't think APAC are gonna be that good tho tbh outside of shanghai ...
I’m just saying if Fusion acquire Clestyn Sado Sanguinaar and Aimgod I’d rate them higher than Seoul
sullen berry
Seoul copium
Try better be playing for playoffs supremacy
Just go in and be the bottom tier team, get flamed by the community for not showing up until the start of an Elimination bracket and them suddenly it looks like as if the regular season is didn't matter
The Dynasty Cycle of poverty
next mesa
I’m just saying if Fusion acquire Clestyn Sado Sanguinaar and Aimgod I’d rate th...
lol
aimgod
we slap u in literally every role
hot onyx
It’s either Aimgod or fucking Quasid
next mesa
Aimgod isnt alarm bro
sullen berry
Aimgod, hahaa
hot onyx
Sado wasn’t 2020 Sado last year because of one of the worst backline sin the league
Still performed better than Stand1 and Mano
next mesa
as if thats like
sullen berry
Sado 2022 will be 2018 Fragi even if he dies once in a significant team fight all match
next mesa
an impressive feat
hot onyx
Sanguinaar was on the same team as Vindaim and benched him for a majority of matches
next mesa
um no vindaim was on loan to o2blast
hot onyx
an impressive feat
Sado did better with Lastro-ASJ than Mano did with Alarm-Astro
next mesa
Seoul's skill floor is honestly higher than it's ever been
thank you
sullen berry
hot onyx
That to me is impressive
sullen berry
Doesn't mean they could win anything 
next mesa
lol
sullen berry
They do have a lot to work through
hot onyx
Your fs are washed up
sullen berry
Kariv being smacked around by creative
hot onyx
Sounds like someone didn’t watch t2
sullen berry
But that was a closer match up that could have been better with a stronger main support
hot onyx
Aight man name one flex support that isn’t Shu Izayaki Iris or Fielder that would be a good substitute for Alarm
sullen berry
Aight man name one flex support that isn’t Shu Izayaki Iris or Fielder that woul...
Molly
hot onyx
Ok let me specify in a different sense
Free Agent fs
No matter who is signed it will be a downgrade
But the more I look at who I could’ve had the more it depresses me
So I suck it up and look at who I will have
hot onyx
Skewed lul
sullen berry
☺
sullen berry
Monte: KYO GETS FOUR?
next mesa
i dont understand why this helps in the
hot onyx
Otherwise I would bite TC’s hand off for Kyo
sullen berry
Funnyastro after one month on Korea
next mesa
seoul vs fusion argument
hot onyx
Alright
hot onyx
There might be a fs gap
next mesa
and a dps gap
hot onyx
Shut the fuck up dps gap
next mesa
its pretty humongous
sullen berry
Main tank gap is worse
next mesa
lol smurf > sado as well
hot onyx
Carpe MN3
next mesa
now lets not talk about OT 
hot onyx
More consistently good than Fits
hot onyx
And Profit is without a doubt the most overrated fdps in the league last season
next mesa
stalker >> zest
hot onyx
Man you really fuckin’ hate Zest huh
sullen berry
When Gator hawk and space barely come in as A when they are the only top NA players in their role says a lot about the KR Tank gap
next mesa
he's just not top tier lol
sullen berry
Levy simps for stalk3r
next mesa
no stalk3r is fine
hot onyx
Neither is Profit or Stalk3r
next mesa
Neither is Profit or Stalk3r
thats funny
hot onyx
Fusion dps is equal to Seoul at worst lol
hot onyx
You believed Profit was a good MVP candidate last year
next mesa
uh
i didnt even vote for him
wot
also profits was 2v6ing
still 12-4
pretty good
now imagine actual players
fucking poggers
hot onyx
On paper yeah
But when most of the matches were vs Valiant Charge Spark and pre Kalios NYXL it makes that feat a lot less impressive
hot onyx
Shut up and let me have as small of a victory as possible
next mesa
okay u know what
u guys lost legendary player alarm
and will most likely get aimgod as a replacement
here
take this
u will need it
🙏
hot onyx
I will accept that W
But instead of Aimgod they will receive the legendary Papadog to carry them through the playoffs
tiny pollen
profits was 2v10ing evry game
hot onyx
aimgod sens too low
True true
next mesa
i mean gesture giving enemy team free ultcharge do be like that
hot onyx
We’re both known for second place we need to stick together man
2020 May Melee
2020 Playoffs
next mesa
sadge!
next mesa
its all right thats intentional
we will either get clestyn, fury, or gargoyle
i dont care which
earnest leaf
nah don't bench smurf
hot onyx
Fury is kind of washed up and Fusion (should) have Clestyn in the bag
earnest leaf
also fury washed don't get him
next mesa
ehhhhhhhh
hot onyx
So pray for the funky stone statue
earnest leaf
man was getting gapped by people like vestola pretty often
next mesa
if i could get fury im getting him
earnest leaf
It isn't s1
next mesa
there must've been some issues tbh
earnest leaf
fury ain't that special anymore
hot onyx
Seasons 1-3 is over
next mesa
nah his sig was good this year as well
earnest leaf
nomegalul
hot onyx
After the support line Fury was the weak point of Justice
hot onyx
Genuinely didn’t even look top 10