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willow tartan
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banned, probably.

dark hedge
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why

willow tartan
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no idea.

dark hedge
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all the ogs getting banned

next mesa
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šŸ™ šŸ™ šŸ™

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fucking sadge

north relic
earnest leaf
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pretty mediocre video

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Bare bones explanation on things meant for normies

tawdry hamlet
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they left and will probably be back eventually

little tusk
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ow should atleast release fuckin sojourn

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like jesus

tacit skiff
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lmao okay

willow tartan
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she would be balanced for 5v5

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so... release 5v5 now

jagged viper
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thescore is terrible

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the worst esports coverers

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all they do is simp for tenz

willow tartan
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I didnt even know they covered ow

next mesa
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the only esports relevant to them are valorant right now and csgo

earnest leaf
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unironically releasing sojourn would be good

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give us a little spice

sullen berry
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me whenever I see thescore content now

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chad akshon esports

stuck radish
willow tartan
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mauga

mortal abyss
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releasing sojourn isnt viable

sullen berry
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Soujourn on OW1 sounds like a hacky mess, but would be worth it to buy time

mortal abyss
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because she was made on the ow2 engine iirc

sullen berry
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exactly

mortal abyss
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which is different then the engine ow1 is on

north relic
mortal abyss
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lmao

sullen berry
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too late

mortal abyss
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if only

sullen berry
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ow3 already in development'

north relic
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So is there a chance that ow2 comes out at 2022 at all

sullen berry
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lol no

north relic
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4 years after announcement at best šŸ˜”

earnest leaf
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There is no confirmed release date for the game

sullen berry
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and when it comes to dates they've announced in the past, don't they usually schedule it a year ahead

earnest leaf
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which means we can still get it in 2022

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or 2023

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no one knows

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not even blizzard

next mesa
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2023 at the earliest probably

earnest leaf
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no

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we don't know

next mesa
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blizzard is an absolute shitshow

sullen berry
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if we get a date in 2023, it's probably going to be for 2025.

next mesa
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we already know its not going to be 2022

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flameknight stop the hopium

sullen berry
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that's as accurate as I'll ever be

earnest leaf
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no we don't lmao

next mesa
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its basically confirmed weeks ago

earnest leaf
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THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION ON THE YEAR OW2 IS RELEASED

next mesa
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and look at the build that they showed us

sullen berry
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when the unannounced release date is sus

earnest leaf
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yall are brainless sometimes

next mesa
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As revealed in a slide presentation for Activision Blizzard's third quarter calendar 2021 results conference call, the company revealed that after working with "new leadership in Blizzard and within the franchises themselves," it became apparent that "some of the Blizzard content planned for next year will benefit from more development time to reach its full potential."

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not to mention one of the coleads left again

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some more lawsuit shit is going down

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blizzard is going down the shit drain

sullen berry
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Jeff Kaplan saved us from a lethal dose of copium

earnest leaf
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No one has any official year release date is what I am saying

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all there is atm is speculation

next mesa
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we know its like 99% not gonna be 2022 so i just said 2023 optimistically

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another 2 years without content

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pogU

earnest leaf
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No we don't 99% know

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For all we know we get a beta in the summer

tacit skiff
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yeah the dev team already said that a 2023 date isnt set and stone

earnest leaf
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and a release in the early winter

tacit skiff
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still could be late 2022

next mesa
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that was the original plan

earnest leaf
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you need to understand

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no one

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knows

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what

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is

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happening

next mesa
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but we do though

earnest leaf
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We don't

next mesa
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they literally told us

earnest leaf
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jfc

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please

next mesa
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there was lots of news

earnest leaf
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use your brain for this

next mesa
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no actually

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like

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just use ur brain for a moment

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if there was actually gonna be 2022 release

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/ beta in the summer 2022

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why would they announce that it was gonna be delayed

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it was our expectation anyway

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Several new outlets reported on it made the future look bleak as shit

stuck radish
next mesa
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if it was actually gonna be summer 2022

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or even winter 2022

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like they probably wouldn't have made such a big deal about it

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yeah that looks so bad honestly

mortal abyss
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with all the horrible shit ggoing on a blizzard i would expect the game to be delayed by quite a bit

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im not gonna complain about a 2023 release if it means actiblizz employees are safe

earnest leaf
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Levy there has been no official confirmation on the release date of the game

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the dev team themselves said nothing is set in stone

worn falcon
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Levy, they didn't daid "hey we're gonna release ow2 next year, stay tuned"

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They just say nothing about the game, the most news were about presenting the game in owl, and even with that they didn't said they were release any kind of beta for the users.

next mesa
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just look at all the clues

worn falcon
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Most of the things about ow2 were assumptions either from people like metro, or people looking too hard in a few lines.

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They didn't released any clues.

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Like ever.

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This isn't some sombra shit stuff.

next mesa
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ā€œThese are two of the most eagerly anticipated titles in the industry, and our teams have made great strides towards completion in recent quarters. But we believe giving the teams some extra time to complete production and continue growing their creative resources to support the titles after launch will ensure that these releases delight and engage their communities for many years into the future.ā€

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why do you think theres been no news on the game

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or any indication of a release date

worn falcon
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Giving extra time " we don't know when is ready"

next mesa
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we know owl season 5 is gonna be played on overwatch 2

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we know owl s5 starts around april

worn falcon
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And that doesn't means is gonna be released for us.

next mesa
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say the release date was originally april or even the summer

worn falcon
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God

next mesa
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actually

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it would be very dumb of them if that was their plan originally

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but see then they announced a delay

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why would they do that if their plan hasnt changed dramatically

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so now ow2 is gonna be early build

willow tartan
earnest leaf
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That's the other thing

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I highly doubt they would deprive the pros of normal ow2 practice for long outside of scrims

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So it's my guess we get a beta sometimes a bit after owl start

willow tartan
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loll

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super goes home from scrims playing ow2 to stream ow1

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that would be so fucky

worn falcon
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masaa

tacit skiff
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masaa deez nuts

noble nexus
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Ok

gusty rampart
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Just kidding suck my balls

noble nexus
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Ok

next mesa
tacit skiff
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dink with another absolute banger

sullen berry
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dink is a pleb

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I liked him before JJonakSZN was taken

earnest leaf
sullen berry
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!jumbo woah

young fractalBOT
sullen berry
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Signing SOMEONE

digital cloud
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Should have signed jjanggu

sullen berry
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but this

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this is last year's Gladiators postseason on drugs

tacit skiff
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Jjanggu needs to get picked up by someone

fallen turret
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fr

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Luckily a lot of teams haven't signed one or both tanks yet

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That's a lie

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Valiant, Vancouver, Houston, Philly, New york are the only ones left

earnest leaf
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Houston should have never dropped jjanggu

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Him and piggy would have been perfect going into ow2

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Still baffles me they ever benched the guy

fallen turret
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I'm guessing there was something behind the scences

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bc he was cracked

earnest leaf
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iirc his engish wasn't that good is what harsha said

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but even then that's something you can teach him along the way

fallen turret
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He could go to Philly then

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The seem to be going all korean

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Do you think there's any chance dreamer gets picked up?

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Kinda doubt it

earnest leaf
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doubtful

sullen berry
next mesa
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Jjangu I guess not titans anymore?

sullen berry
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that could come as a cost benefit or be a pitfall if they have a fast and reliable plan if they add more during the season

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who started Jjangu titans

earnest leaf
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no clue

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sounds like a baseless fan theory

sullen berry
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JJangouver

raw ermine
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@tropic herald superich, not superrich for future reference

north relic
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Spark stacked

worn falcon
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Sleeper spark

next mesa
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Superich huh

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Changed name again

next mesa
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also i mentioned this before but

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team cc went to complete shit after nohill left

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coincidence? i dont think so

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before he left team cc was arguably best team the whole asian region

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won nexus cup

gusty rampart
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Very true sadly

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Also Spark looking good

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Considering Spark

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Bottom 3 again

gusty rampart
gusty rampart
tacit skiff
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I heard that MyunbongSZN guy was kinda cute

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also PUNK1SZN

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also heard the guy who runs @OWLOpinions on Twitter is kind of a chad

gusty rampart
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Those people would be correct

tacit skiff
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ikr

tiny pollen
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What if Microsoft purchased overwatch

next mesa
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whats a formal necktie
5 words
starts with ASC
crossword

tacit skiff
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with the way Microsoft is, that'd be way better than Activison

earnest leaf
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The only issue with OW being purchased would be owl

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Unless whatever company that would buy ow would want to keep owl and manage it

sullen berry
next mesa
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Yoo i found it

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It's ascot

sullen berry
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I thought that word had an R the whole time

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ASCROFT

vagrant cargo
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but i said they are chosing

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between stand1 and jjangu

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So stand1 it is ig

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wzich makes sense because jjangus english is appereantly rlly bad

trail perch
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Wait who is spark flex support?

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Would trading for 1987 be an option?

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cause reunite with superrich and lige

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Oh wait its irony

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Maybe they try to get 2

gusty rampart
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They confirmed their roster I believe

trail perch
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Yeah

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They did

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But like

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I have hope

gusty rampart
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Cope

trail perch
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Yes.

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We know this

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Ive been high on copium since 2019

gusty rampart
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Hoping one day you'll stop

trail perch
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I need to think of a new name

gusty rampart
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And realize

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Spark isn't good

trail perch
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no.

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They used to be top 4

gusty rampart
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So did Boston

trail perch
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:(

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Wait

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No they didnt

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Maybe in just stage 3

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not end of season

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they lost to valiant right?

gusty rampart
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When Valiant was God tier yea

trail perch
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top 4 was 1. London, 2. Philly 3. NYXL, 4. Valiant

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So no they werent

tropic herald
forest raven
trail perch
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region lock over?

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Or boston swapping regions?

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Or shanghai swapping regions?

forest raven
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I think it's because they signed McD

tropic herald
trail perch
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Someone was the CC MT right?

next mesa
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Yes!

hot onyx
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birthday moment

devout path
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Happy birthday

hot onyx
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Yooo Lily ur not dead

devout path
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Like I would miss ur birthday šŸ™„

hot onyx
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Fuckin’ awesome

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But what date is my birthday

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If you rember it so well

devout path
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Today

hot onyx
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You must be psychic

devout path
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No I’m just a Boston hater

willow tartan
trail perch
hot onyx
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Finally some positive character development

willow tartan
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^^^

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seen the light

devout path
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Sorry if you sign mcd I don’t like you

trail perch
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you know who dropped him?

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Spark.

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Be a spark fan

hot onyx
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You should become a Fusion fan since they don’t have MCD

willow tartan
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ehh

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looking at the spreadsheet rn

devout path
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Spark is the trans rights team

willow tartan
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we need a florida fan

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who unironically supports florida

trail perch
hot onyx
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Yeah but Spark had MCD at some point

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Fusion never had MCD on their team

devout path
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Yeah but spark says trans rights

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Philly says Reese’s peanut butter cups

willow tartan
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make a compromise then

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support chengdu

hot onyx
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ā€œBreaking Newz: Overwatch League Team Hangzhou Spark change colour schemeā€

forest raven
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Shock says two championships

hot onyx
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Fusion says no championship

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Can’t be accused of being a bandwagon

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Because there is nothing to bandwagon for

north relic
north relic
tacit skiff
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-100 sr

tiny pollen
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bing chilling

balmy wolf
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Lily back yooooo

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join the Atlanta gang

cedar oasis
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no

noble nexus
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no

gusty rampart
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Wearing a Florida Mayhem shirt today

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I explained to a girl how they were easily one of the best teams in 2021 but main tank struggles

raw ermine
hot onyx
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OGE was not the problem smh

hot onyx
gusty rampart
hot onyx
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Mechanical talent and gamesense

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He did good

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The team as a whole just didn’t work

last nimbus
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i have a bad feeling architect will be perma benched this season

willow tartan
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sounds like a good thing for the spark troel

north relic
tawdry hamlet
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slime and oge held them back, fate and jecse and that team could have won a tourney ez claps

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oh hey they signed the main support they should have signed last year lets goooo

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superich yeehaw

earnest leaf
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Sucks how much MS players get dragged for not being up to par with brig

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dumb hero

tropic herald
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Kinda fair doe

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It’s like how flex supports get dragged for not having baps

trail perch
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Its the same as in s1 when ms players got dragged for not playing mercy

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Or when dps players with tracer/zarya/brig

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Its not stupid at all

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When you cant play the best heros in the game

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You dont deserve to play

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Otherwise we would see players that are great on shit heros make owl cause they could just play them

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Like imagine ladder one tricks

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Like GetQuakedOn

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Or Bastion Main

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Or Necros

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Make owl

gusty rampart
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YZNSA too

trail perch
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Yeah

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Owl is for the meta heros

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it doesnt matter how talented you are

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if you cant play what matters

gusty rampart
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Ir1s is in OWL

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He's a Bap one trick

trail perch
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Cause he plays the only hero that matters

gusty rampart
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Because you never see him on anything else

trail perch
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If a team signed like moth

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They wouldnt be able to run a top tier brig

gusty rampart
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Moth would be a major pickup

trail perch
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on brig comps they would suffer

gusty rampart
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His Brig is alright

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His Mercy and Lucio are top tier

trail perch
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They wouldnt be top tier

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and he would make mistakes

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that could lose fights and games

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cause brig is that important

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They would have to commit to running a lucio or mercy almost full time

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And they would lose alot against top teams because of that

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Mercy dive will never beat a brig dive

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Lucio dive wont beat a brig dive in the current meta

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Mercy DS or Poke just isnt at good as Brig DS or Poke

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You cant really run ball with mercy because then your zen or ana just dies almost for free

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Rein is even arguably better with a brig against dive comps

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and Rush just isnt that good

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If you get into a hard rush meta sure he would be good

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but the other 99% of the time you would need another player to play brig

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and it doesnt make sense to drop the big bucks on a MS player that might almost never play

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Glads did it cause skewed was prob like 50k

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And they realized after the season that they didnt need him, and that they just needed a lucio player

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cause skewed covers brig mercy and other flex supports

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Moth isnt currently ready to be the starting main support on a top tier team

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and no one else is willing to spend on him

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Because he isnt good enough to warrent a super high salary

earnest leaf
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quaked on could never make owl for doom only lmao

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man is mid-low gm

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Necros unironically could as a genji otp

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Also if you have someone like moth only as your second support you would generally run comps that involve his best heroes, not attempt to force a weaker version of another comp

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Like how shock and reign would just hard force lucio rush with masaa/fdgod

trail perch
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Top teams have top tier main supports who can play brig

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and those are the ones who can afford moth as a secondarys upport

earnest leaf
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iirc there are very few MS players that are good at brig

north relic
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Ms players were forced to play lucio for a year and it stuck

cedar oasis
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wrong

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just get your second top 3 flex dps to play brig

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ez

earnest leaf
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What even are the good MS brig players

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theres like ljg

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and I can't think of any else that are top tier on brig

vagrant cargo
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skewed

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faith

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yveltal

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nisha

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funnyastro has a very good brig too

earnest leaf
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skewed is FS

vagrant cargo
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eh

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ig

next mesa
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Just put viol2t on brig

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And play finn

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Finn is so good anyway

willow tartan
vagrant cargo
next mesa
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Factual

tropic herald
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A lot of the new ms rookies have nice brigs too

next mesa
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Everyone of them

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Actually

gusty rampart
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Viol2t will be the Shocks MS

hot onyx
fallen turret
next mesa
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he's bad tho ngl

noble nexus
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Jake is asscheeks

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Should’ve stuck to coaching

willow tartan
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coach jake will help player jake realise his true potential

noble nexus
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based Luigi

next mesa
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oh no another pedo

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tf

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is wrong

noble nexus
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wha

gusty rampart
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?

sullen berry
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levy loves harassing ghosts

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Sometimes i forget and wonder if he's getting too old for discord

tropic herald
tawdry hamlet
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Context modcheck

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Askers modcheck

next mesa
noble nexus
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crazy that someone called "Bootyblaster" is outted as a sexual deviant

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like there really weren't any warning signs

earnest leaf
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well damn

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Man got caught in 4k

noble nexus
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more like 8k

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what a weirdo

trim shadow
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who is cyber again

little tusk
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oh my god who the fuck cares

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I swear to god if I see any more people coming out on the internet over sexual abuse I'm gonna flip my shit

tacit skiff
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lmao okay

cedar oasis
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Do it

tacit skiff
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can't wait for another Boston player to get outted for liking children a bit too much

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so they can flip their shit about it

cedar oasis
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Whaat

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That only happened 2 times i think

mortal abyss
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"only"

last nimbus
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Whats wrong with people

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Also it is just very clearly loud minority

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There are thousands of t1/t2 players of course there are going to be some fucking idiots in there

raw ermine
sullen berry
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Tianbin Lateyoung "we will make the world see China again" Ma retires

last nimbus
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.-.

sullen berry
willow drum
raw ermine
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oof Yakpung retired

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allegedly

next mesa
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That's sadge

next mesa
hot onyx
plush grail
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who cares

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yakpung was mid

willow tartan
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i care because the health of the esport is pretty important given that owl is my only source of joy and happiness

plush grail
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beer is my source of joy and happiness

willow tartan
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yeah well beer is ass

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nothing brings to me more happiness than watching OWL

plush grail
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you bring me happiness :)

willow tartan
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yeah but surely not as much happiness as watching shock fans mald

plush grail
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tbf i love watching u all mald

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when ur top tier teams

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eat shit and lose

willow tartan
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lol

plush grail
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i kinda support paris because like what

willow tartan
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feed on the tears of NA

plush grail
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are u gonna shittalk paris for losing??

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they're a budget EU team

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ofc they're gonna lose

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but if y'alls top tier NA teams lose

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i laugh

willow tartan
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yeah but everyone has to mald or else its not fun for anyone

plush grail
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i mean

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we have brainlets like sans and marbel

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we will see people mald

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also jack

worn falcon
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Hanbin moment

north relic
last nimbus
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did they say anything about how the matches are going to be played?

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online again?

gusty rampart
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LAN

trim shadow
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also hey that player turnover rate is soaring

next mesa
last nimbus
gusty rampart
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Teams like Spitfire are rumored to be based in LA

last nimbus
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Yeah i saw the drama with season 3 before pandemic

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That they had to fly like 70000 miles if they had to fly

gusty rampart
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That's why they're looking to have a team house in LA

last nimbus
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Understandable

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But its confirmed that all matches are lan?

gusty rampart
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I do not believe so

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But 99% chance it will be

willow tartan
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lans definitely in china, maybe probably in usa.

earnest leaf
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spitfire isn't rumored to be in la

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they will be

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noukky confirmed it iitc

mortal abyss
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Is it the same with paris?

next mesa
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SUP guys

tropic herald
tropic herald
earnest leaf
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It was on tactical crouch I believe

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Also maybe yea we get lan events in LA or something

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and apac as well

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maybe in hawaii

trail perch
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so is ny coming back to ny?

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Or boston back to boston?

tiny pollen
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They should all be in one place

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Or two places

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Imo

north relic
raw ermine
raw ermine
next mesa
raw ermine
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true

frosty shell
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L

gusty rampart
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Tier list

noble nexus
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stfu

earnest leaf
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Moon won Coach of the year award at the esports awards

tropic herald
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nice

rare magnet
tiny pollen
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pc rookie of the year fraudulent

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mickey mouse if I do say so

tropic herald
tiny pollen
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pelican ROBBED like he was ROBBED of a GOOD TEAM last year

sullen berry
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Also linda puckett

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may she rest in peace pensiveGloria

lapis moss
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i miss alarm

ivory ocean
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Moth is a goated support

somber latch
cedar oasis
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Somehow

somber latch
cedar oasis
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Kinda

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They didn't win so i guess they did let alot of people down

tiny pollen
next mesa
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dont think dallas let down

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people barely had them top 5 west

tiny pollen
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dallas got beaten by gator ball

forest raven
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YOU JUST LOST TO THE WRECKING BALL OF NORTH AMERICAN MAIN TANK BLAKE "GATOR" SCOTT

willow drum
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i think shock underpreformed

next mesa
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relative to expectations yes

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Damn in alternate universe:
Blizzard announce some other game
Overwatch Season 2 announced
OWL finals 1.5 mill viewers

willow tartan
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In an alternate universe blizzard adds hero bans to overwatch

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all i ask

novel owl
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in an AU, Mercy otp dont exis

stuck radish
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thats the best universe

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give me that one

trail perch
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no.

little tusk
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I can't believe how fucked overwatch is as a whole

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delaying it another year like come on

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pray they release some form of new content

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also why did my Regular role get removed 😠

north relic
next mesa
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that would be so banger

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ffs

trail perch
#

yall blizzard is just shitty

#

I wish riot made ow instead

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we would have 1 new hero every season

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or a new map

#

they actually know how to balance a game

#

they would do everything blizzard does but better

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its fine that they dont know how to balance dps and one is just always good

#

jett=tracer

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but like

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everything ekse

next mesa
#

lmao

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jett fundamentally strong

#

but who cares though

#

there's also gonna be stronger and weaker agents

#

jett is one of those that are really fun to watch

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thats why people dont mind tracer being strong asf

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as much as brig

#

who the fuck wants to watch brig gameplay

trail perch
#

Please sell the rights to ow

#

Sell it to someone

#

anyone

#

Valve???

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Or like fucking nintendo even

next mesa
#

sell it to me

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ill take it for 10k

#

me>>blizzard

tiny pollen
#

sell it to Microsoft

next mesa
#

yes

tiny pollen
#

microsoft has enough money to sink into game and no competition in their ips

next mesa
tiny pollen
#

brrrr

next mesa
#

im surprised its still that high tbh

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like why isnt it at like 12 dollars

willow tartan
#

time to buy blizzard stonks and make monies when ow2 launch

digital cloud
#

At this point I have no faith in ow long term

#

I am only waiting for its inevitable death

#

Wow I lost regular

#

Well this sucks

#

And after I worked so hard

#

What even is keeping blizzard afloat rn?

#

Ow is massively fallen off, hots is dead, hearthstone is massively fallen off, same for wow and Diablo

raw ermine
#

the fact that their games are still good, even if neglected

earnest leaf
#

They own candy crush

tacit skiff
tiny pollen
#

l playstation bozos

worn falcon
next mesa
trail perch
tacit skiff
#

because Minecraft was already multiplatform game

next mesa
#

What's wrong with making it an exclusive ip

#

Also Microsoft has managed minecraft surprisingly well

tacit skiff
#

because they barely did

#

they left it up to Mojang completely

#

all Microsoft is doing with Minecraft nowadays is taking a portion of profits

#

that and Minecraft Dungeons ig

next mesa
#

Lmao Minecraft dungeons

#

Yikes

gusty rampart
#

Wasn't awful

#

Microsoft wouldn't make it platform exclusive

#

The most they'd do is sell it on PC Microsoft Store

trail perch
tacit skiff
#

but the issue with overwatch is that apparently ow needs sequels and Minecraft doesn't

last nimbus
willow tartan
#

wym exclusive ip?

#

yk microsoft operates on both console and pc right

#

whoda thunk

next mesa
#

STIMP IS CRACKED

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support streamer guys

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actually decent ow

willow tartan
#

who are the casters? they sound familiar

raw ermine
#

just opened the match to see who they were
wtf is this

willow tartan
#

streamer showdown

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bastion main beat kevster onigod provide btw

next mesa
#

and some other guy idk

next mesa
#

sad

#

actually wanted to see them stomp

#

onigod was on zar or something

#

bastionmain's team actually in finals though

#

they're playing pretty good

#

silvoc's team actually making lucio zen work

willow tartan
next mesa
#

thats not off rolling though

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because checkmate and pelican's real role is mt

#

they are just playing fdps

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to make it fair

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THEY WON

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LMAO

#

LUCIO ZEN

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BEAT BRIG ZEN

willow tartan
#

i would quit this world if bastionmain won

tacit skiff
#

Microsoft owns the rights

willow tartan
#

every ip is exclusive

#

that's how ips work

plush grail
#

Shut up

tight hill
#

Onigod is bad

plush grail
#

No he's not

buoyant coyote
#

Onigod isn’t bad

willow tartan
#

so what team is onigod on now?

buoyant coyote
#

Not good

#

But not bad

plush grail
#

No team

willow tartan
#

lft?

#

go to valo?

#

retire?

#

playing league now?

#

fund manager?

buoyant coyote
#

Left

#

Lft

north relic
plush grail
#

he's god

tight hill
#

EU bad

raw ermine
#

I also didn't make OWL this year. It feels frustrating knowing that you'll need to wait another year before you could try again, especially since it feels like it barely matters how well you play in tryouts. I'll decide what's next for me when Blizzard announces more about T2/OW2

Likes

177

next mesa
#

who

stuck radish
#

why did mayhem pick up bro you wack of all people

#

there are Better content creators

worn falcon
#

Who

stuck radish
raw ermine
tepid ibex
#

Not soe sadge

willow drum
raw ermine
next mesa
#

sadge

#

omg i was just about to post that

#

it sucks honestly

#

wub was this close to getting signed

#

to shock

#

actually sucks so badly

raw ermine
#

then nero

#

yeah

tawdry hamlet
#

Wub was this close to having to shoulder every bit of hate shock fans gave Nero lmaoo

#

Really sucks he won't get an owl shot still

#

Kraan is captain of sheer cold that team that went third with asking a few months ago

vapid basin
earnest leaf
#

i'm gonna be honest

#

at least publicly, nero got a lot less hate

#

after the first stage people backed off of him

#

A lot of hate was directed at viol2t/fdgod

tawdry hamlet
#

Rawkus is double cheeked up sheesh

novel owl
#

what happened ?

trail perch
#

Hot take, nero sucked last year

#

He was pocketed on echo the entire season

#

and whenever he played any character that the team didnt play around him, he was god awful

#

His mei was fucking terrible

raw ermine
#

I wasn't really impressed with him, but others thought he was good so I thought I missed some stuff

trail perch
#

Yeah no everyone just went on the hype train cause he was getting hate

#

its like the swing to swing back

#

He complained about getting hate so everyone just assumed that it was very unjustified and hyped him up

#

When his only pop off moments was when he had a full fucking pocket from some of the best supports in the league

#

Its never justified to send a player death threats or hate

#

But Nero's play was not good.

plush grail
#

Shock fell off bad

#

They're gonna be mid tier next season

final musk
trail perch
#

They should have perma benched him and ran glister ans the whole season honestly

#

Glister is a much better flex

plush grail
#

guess what

#

paris has glister now

#

imo onigod naga was top tier

#

but naga glister

#

if they manage to click

#

goated

final musk
#

Still… Paris….

plush grail
#

wdym

#

paris is solid rn

final musk
#

We will see…

plush grail
#

trust

willow tartan
#

nero wasnt a top tier fdps but at the same time he wasnt the reason why shock were bad

plush grail
#

when tf did whoru get added to ur profile

willow tartan
#

been like that 4 months

tropic herald
#

The notes 😭

plush grail
#

it's just a fact

#

he's delusional

#

i dont remember the gay part

#

but he probably said something

next mesa
#

He wasn't bad at all

#

Not to mention echos get pocketed all the time idk why that's an argument

#

Leave is probably the most pocketed player in the league

#

Doesn't make him bad

mortal abyss
#

When jinmu is on pharah he gets a bigger pocket

#

But for most heroes leave gets the team pocket yeah

earnest leaf
#

That's not a hot take

#

Just a bad take

#

Nero was absolutely solid majority of last year

#

The only times he didn't look great, or didn't look his best was vs pelican lmao

#

He was easily the most consistent player after the first stage as well

#

No clue how you think he was bad besides brain rot

#

Was a consistently solid A tier fdps

#

People just didn't think highly of him because he didn't have an s tier tracer

#

I do agree that his mei was pretty rough to start out the season, but imo it developed to be pretty solid towards the end of year

vagrant cargo
#

i actually disagfee

#

i think his mei was quite great

#

from Start to finish

#

and has always been one of his stronger herod

willow tartan
#

a tier /=/ top tier

willow tartan
earnest leaf
#

The shock atl match stage 1, he mainly used wall or ult after pelican did, which costed them fights

#

His mechanics on mei though were great

balmy wolf
#

i like neo goats

earnest leaf
#

That meta was something

#

6 dva bombs in a fight

#

12 ults being used in the first fight

#

It reminded me of goats in the sense that watching not top tier teams at the comp play it was miserable

#

but watching two good teams was pretty fun

balmy wolf
#

yeah

gusty rampart
#

Humongous W for Paris

#

Re-signing Vestola

#

Goated OT

willow tartan
#

not like theres many other options

hot onyx
willow tartan
#

i dont believe european contenders anymore

#

not real

raw ermine
#

cool

gusty rampart
#

Vestola is really good tho

#

And there's many options omegalul

willow tartan
#

are you sure?

#

who are the current ots that are still fas

next mesa
#

Vestola probably better than all of them

raw ermine
#

^valorant team not OW, but found it funny

willow tartan
#

sugarfree to win champs

cedar oasis
#

was he actually good in tendies

worn falcon
#

He didn't isolate or contesting a bit of space.

raw ermine
plush grail
#

VESTOLA OS BACK

#

Luckily

#

He was amazing last season

hot onyx
#

Violetta better

tawdry hamlet
#

Essenza back at it again with the pepega takes 😈

gusty rampart
#

Essenza have a good take challenge (impossible)

trail perch
#

ay

#

Its sc9r1ett now

#

And no

gusty rampart
#

Same difference

next mesa
#

Super good

#

A bit like sugarfree now

#

But imagine if sugarfree went to global gauntlet and pounded yaki

willow tartan
#

the limit to how many numbers you can have in a name is 1

#

otherwise its too compelx for my brain to understand

next mesa
#

im just gonna call u scarlet

trail perch
#

the difference is that i dont become asian to be in some movies

novel owl
#

lmaoo

tired zodiac
#

is s9mm any good

#

🤔

next mesa
#

yes

arctic lotus
#

schools esports leauge has an overwatch branch, lets goooo PogChimp

earnest leaf
#

S9mm very good echo

#

From his streams his doom and genji are also pretty good

#

Solid hanzo too

#

Very similar hero pool to nero, although I haven't seen any torb and not a lot of mei from his streams

somber latch
sullen berry
plush grail
#

nothing can beat the pepega jack takes

vagrant cargo
#

Hes only there for tracer echo and mei i think

trail perch
#

Is he there for tracer???

#

Proper exists

#

To play tracer echo and mei

forest raven
#

Proper/Kilo in hitscan heavy meta

#

Proper/S9mm in every other meta

hot onyx
#

Naw they’re gonna play Viol2t/Kilo in hitscan heavy metas

forest raven
hot onyx
#

Proper overrated

#

If Viol2t can bench Glister and Nero he can bench some random kid from contendies no problem Pin

balmy wolf
#

yes

vagrant cargo
#

wallahi

#

tracer echo is a comp

#

s9mm echo proper tracer

trail perch
#

Clone proper

#

or viol2t echo proper tracer

next mesa
#

LMAO

trail perch
#

im just sayin

#

viol2t might be better than s9mm on echo...

#

Then FiNN plays fs

#

and then when they inevitably sign moth

#

he plays ms

willow tartan
#

you're taking the shitposting too far man

trail perch
#

Never.

#

Spark>SHD

noble surge
#

not quite

sullen berry
#

yeah, here's the correct version

#

GZC > HZS > SHD

#

Chengdu Zone

#

Then everyone else in NA

#

then Seoul

trail perch
#

LiGe>Void

#

Fate shit on winston

#

Shy>Lip and Fleta

#

Superrich>LJG

#

Thats most of the roster

#

Therefore Spark>>>

hot onyx
#

Yeah but Dragons don’t have Architect or a winston otp

worn falcon
#

Now we're in the dryest season ever and wait till april

#

Unless valiant shake up things

earnest leaf
#

Apparently the only echo in NA better than s9mm is speedily

#

Granted every NA contenders player gives really high praise to speedily on doom/echo

trail perch
#

NA contenders isnt that high a skill ceiling

#

I think speedily is good

#

But being worse than him is probably just a bottom tier player

gusty rampart
#

S9mm is most literally Nero 2.0

#

He's really good

tawdry hamlet
#

I have high high hopes for this na contenders class but I also will wait and see because most non apac tenders prospects have been lackluster af

#

When they make owl

#

Besides Kevster

little tusk
#

u know who kephrii reminds me of

#

keemstar

#

does anyone remember that guy

mortal abyss
#

I’d rather not remember him but yeah

earnest leaf
#

I mean people have said speedily's echo would be top tier in owl

#

And also remember someone like s9mm gets to waltz in with crust/ninek to coach him

#

I'm mainly of the mindset that we just have to wait and see for most t2 players when they get into owl

#

Of course expectations for people who are super highly regarded like pelican

devout path
#

Pelican can become the best dps player ever

vagrant cargo
#

but yeah s9mm echo isnt bad

#

and i expect shock coaching to get him to A tier just like nero

tropic herald
#

S9mm will probably look good this year

vagrant cargo
tropic herald
#

What about Void :/

vagrant cargo
#

Void is beyond ow players

#

hes a step above

devout path
#

Ow player is an insult to void

vagrant cargo
#

anyways i think s9mm will just be a new nero, Solid wont win them a championship tho

#

or rather wont elevate the team to new heights

#

thats gonna be propers job

earnest leaf
#

I think his echo can peak higher than nero

tropic herald
#

Proper is gonna be the SFS leave

#

Keep him in all the time

#

You win games off him

earnest leaf
#

Wonder if they'll sign another tank or just solo ride with super

#

or if they'll opt for a MS to round out the supp line

tropic herald
#

Probably gonna sign another person in tank and ms but they are waiting like the rest of the teams

earnest leaf
#

I got a bold prediction

#

I think teams that field the same tank for majority of the time will perform better overall than teams who swap tanks

tropic herald
#

It’s too far out for me to confidently make a prediction like that, it could really go either way

willow tartan
#

I think itll be entirely dependent on what becomes meta

plush grail
#

i have a gf

earnest leaf
#

Congratz of the new body pillow then

willow tartan
#

like if the meta is open then i can see the benefit of having running 1 tank

#

but if the meta is hard ball for example

#

and then later in the season its hard dva

#

teams w just mt or ot gonna fucked

earnest leaf
#

I just think unless an OT like sig or dva is hardcore meta, running a MT player is just better

cedar oasis
#

just get someone who can play everything lmao

willow tartan
#

mr marv 1

#

just hope dva is never meta

plush grail
#

Just get someone who plays everything

#

Thanks for this amazing input uvalo

cedar oasis
#

your welcome luigi

plush grail
#

Paris is bad? Just sign better players

#

Are u losing? Just win

willow tartan
tropic herald
#

Paris IS bad

plush grail
plush grail
cedar oasis
#

you know what

#

i am now a paris fan

#

luigi has just sold me on the idea of paris

plush grail
#

How

balmy wolf
#

damn

#

this atlanta team looks good

plush grail
#

Please don't actually because the last time we both supported a team they ate shit

cedar oasis
#

wich team

#

ate shit

plush grail
#

NYXL

#

weren't u a NYXL fan too

cedar oasis
#

oh

#

once

plush grail
#

still

#

Stay away from Paris

cedar oasis
#

cant

#

its too late now

balmy wolf
#

nyxl is stinks more than my asshole

cedar oasis
#

good to know

plush grail
cedar oasis
#

nah nah its fine luigi if we both support a bad team they will be good

plush grail
#

Yeah

cedar oasis
#

its the reverse

plush grail
#

That's how it works right

noble nexus
#

Why tf do I even look at this channel anymore

cedar oasis
#

yea yea

noble nexus
#

Luigi is the dumbest man alive

willow tartan
#

paris will be super mid next year

noble nexus
#

And it’s not even close

willow tartan
#

nah did you see what scarlet posted earlier?

plush grail
#

I am not

willow tartan
#

he's the one on the dumb shit bro

noble nexus
#

Please just stop talking

balmy wolf
plush grail
#

This is harassment

cedar oasis
#

luigi is not dumb

noble nexus
#

Tf is Scarlet

plush grail
#

The spasrk simp

willow tartan
#

ezzenshou

#

essenzhou

noble nexus
#

The one that thought justice was gonna win playoffs

#

??

willow tartan
#

yes

#

now that

noble nexus
#

Oh

willow tartan
#

that's the dumbest man alive

#

ian is second

cedar oasis
#

true

#

spark sucks

noble nexus
#

Yeah true

balmy wolf
#

true+

plush grail
#

I'm not dumb

#

I am based

cedar oasis
#

true

noble nexus
#

Settle down Luigi

balmy wolf