esports-discussion

[noble nexus]

but they really don't even need to fill those positions with happy being a decent player and OW2 being 5v5

[gusty rampart]

Closer then Opener

[hot onyx]

Justice sign a good ms challenge

That’s a little disrespectful and I might be proven wrong I’m just still not over people classifying a team with Closer and Bebe as a superteam

[tropic herald]

i would say that except when i kinda jokingly brought up how justice wasnt in his twitter bio in rcowcord halo reacted w eyes

also i completely forgot about this interaction until today

[trim shadow]

closer?..nah dont need that we have opener

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/carpe_ow/status/1458833902412308487

Fusion Carpe (@carpe_ow)

https://t.co/hjjEj5x2Vd

Twitter · Nov 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

[raw ermine]

wait
AHHAHAHAHAHA omg

[plush grail]

Opener closer

Funny names

[willow tartan]

:)

[next mesa]

LMAO

What's up w gen g teams pumping out good ma

Ms

Can bave good Ms except actual main team

[trail perch]

Tydolla is on the staff

And they signed Opener

So i trust

maybe like Sanguinar

he played for GenG

and GenA

and Ground Zero

[tawdry hamlet]

So these dudes really went

From closer

To opener

There's no way they didn't do that just for the name

[next mesa]

Wtf

This crimith kid

twitter.com/Crimith1

https://twitter.com/Crimith1?t=4W5_Frc9BVyPqTa9mtypHg&s=09

Crimith (@Crimith1)

Main: @47stj

Tweets

248

Followers

20

Twitter

Gas and report

[little tusk]

How is kephrii such a nut on widow but was he so ass at valorant

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/Crimith1/status/1458595721049874436?t=5uK9zLNwSq9fjqOmWaGZRw&s=19

Crimith (@Crimith1)

U deserve it https://t.co/qNEGlwdeIj

Twitter · Nov 11, 2021, 12:41 AM

He was actually okay

In beta

Like beta beta

[balmy wolf]

happy birthday shitter

[devout path]

That’s called alpha

[next mesa]

Fury to Seoul confirmed

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/Crimith1/status/1458595639793647618

Crimith (@Crimith1)

Nobody cares, people die everyday #alarm #Overwatch #owl #OwlHouse #Fusion Get over it

Twitter · Nov 11, 2021, 12:41 AM

?????

[next mesa]

Gas and report

Pov: u get no bitches

Pov: u have daddy issues

[noble nexus]

Real life sociopath shit

That’s probably an incredibly fucked up troll

[next mesa]

Pov: ur momma worked 20 hours a day for this guy to tweet this

[noble nexus]

But there are people who genuinely have that mindset and it’s honestly disgusting

I mean yeah it does show a lack of empathy but some people are also just super desensitised to death and it’s not a big deal to them

And they fail to understand people caring about the life and legacy of someone like Alarm

Some of the people in this community concern me frfr

OW community sucks fat cock

Only place worse is cod lmfao

Yeah same

[devout path]

I still can’t believe he’s actually gone

How could the world do this

[tawdry hamlet]

I think the players who have fallen off like Logix who are lft for owl would be better off taking a sort of Ripa approach and proving themselves in contenders again and then go lft because who tf tryna get Logix as he is rn

[balmy wolf]

isn't that a person who said it was a joke and then deleted his account or something?

[raw ermine]

he changed the @ of it, but didn't delete it, but in essence yeah

[last nimbus]

i really want to see yznsa signed to a team and then never plays

[tiny pollen]

bad owl players should just go to colliegete

For free college,housing,and food

[plush grail]

Thanks!!

[hot onyx]

https://youtu.be/8rOcDt27ff0

[north relic]

All of his tweets are alarm disrespect

[raw ermine]

yeah he is clearly a troll, but he didn't realise the backlash he'd get

[rare magnet]

this random dude is playing ow fyi https://www.twitch.tv/mendo

[raw ermine]

oh Mendokusaii is playing OW. cool

[worn falcon]

random dude

benched forever player

[tacit skiff]

oh crimith?

yeah that guy is a scumbag

saw a bunch of people from the szn group chat harassing him

karma

[earnest leaf]

god just fucking block and ignore him

People feeding him attention is all he wants

[tropic herald]

while that is what you should do, you are thinking too rationally for the internet

[digital cloud]

I didn’t join the internet to be a rational onlooker, I joined it to have fun

And to watch ow

[willow drum]

????

LMAO

This guy is more accurate than focus blast in pokemon

[north relic]

Jack with blue name is throwing me off

[noble nexus]

I was blue name before I nitro boosted smh

[hot onyx]

Nitro boost again

I don’t like you on your smurf account

It’s off putting

[north relic]

Why would you ever nitro boost this server

[noble nexus]

Because the booster role colour is my favourite colour

[noble nexus]

Also no :)

[mortal cipher]

wow

[gusty rampart]

Holy shit I just got cards from UpperDeck in the mail

They actually sent them

[fallen turret]

How many fa players from last season are left that actually might get Signed?

Moth, fdgod, masaa, aspire, shockwave, eqo, jjanggu, jecse?

Who else

Michelle

Myunbong

Yaki

[balmy wolf]

half of them are already signed lol

[fallen turret]

?

None confirmed tho

[balmy wolf]

halo has like a 95 percent record

basically confirmed

[fallen turret]

True

[balmy wolf]

also eqo and michelle are questionable

[fallen turret]

anyone else?

Diem maybe

Stand1 and sado could get signed

Maybe

[balmy wolf]

Sado is already I believe

Sado is on Toronto and stand1 is with Boston still I believe

[fallen turret]

Nah

Sado and stand1 both got released

Also Toronto has muze now

[worn falcon]

You can track here

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Portal:Rumours

Which is nice

[sullen berry]

capping his subathon at 7 days

I'm thinking him playing overwatch was easy street if he has to queue into dps games

[raw ermine]

what is the point of a "certain" option?

[next mesa]

Where did Ace go

[devout path]

What’s the point of any of that

How can one decide the difference between any of them

[earnest leaf]

probably the credibility of the source

Someone like Halo would be a "Certain" is my guess

but If I said some shit like "Oh yea diem to boston" it would be listed as unlikely

[willow tartan]

oh

so i can put all of the ed preds in there?

:)

rumour**

[next mesa]

Diem to Boston would be pog

[willow tartan]

it would be

striker diem in a tracer/hitscan meta sound very pog

[trim shadow]

wait wait gangnamjin and myunbong is illegal

no fuckin way thats how they replace jjonak

[earnest leaf]

It's honestly a solid duo

[trim shadow]

thats absolutely disgusting if thats real

[earnest leaf]

myunbong having a solid ana and gnj covers the rest

[trim shadow]

no wonder they let jjonak goto seoul

[earnest leaf]

jjonak also expensive

[next mesa]

Jjonak probably wanted to leave tho

[trim shadow]

cant blame him

had his original team dismantled and they dumped rookies on him

[north relic]

Dumped rookie of the year haksal on him

[hot onyx]

To be fair if my teams coaching staff was draining all that talent I would want to jump out of there as well

How tf can someone make Libero WhoRU Haksal and Ivy look like mid tier players

[north relic]

I still wonder to this day

[trim shadow]

not that team@the other team

and even still they had all that talent and went nowhere

just like s1 when jjoank was going ape shit

[last nimbus]

just like when logix wasnt washed 😭

[cedar oasis]

Nyxl didnt have a good hitscan s3

I remember libero was on widow a few times

Nene was so good and then he just flopped

[hot onyx]

Imagine S3 NYXL with someone like Happy and KDG coaching

[noble nexus]

Nyxl was never a good team

[flat ingot]

After S1’
Just not when they needed to

[noble nexus]

they were ass in S1 too tbh

[balmy wolf]

they were ass in every season tbh

[cedar oasis]

Hm

S1 nyxl was ass

Interesting

Didnt nyxl get 3rd in season 2 aswel

[noble nexus]

nah

[next mesa]

After that injury

Nenne poofed

[next mesa]

Ye

They gradually got worse every season

They got third APAC s3

Probably would've been 5th or 6th overall

[cedar oasis]

They never had a good hitscan since pine

[hot onyx]

Gwangboong

[vagrant cargo]

Flora

Flora is nuts

[noble nexus]

who?

[trail perch]

Nenne was good

Sbb was good

[earnest leaf]

compared to other players past s1 they weren't that special

[balmy wolf]

You people better put some respect on nennes name

[tawdry hamlet]

S3 nyxl was lackluster regardless of imt and I stand by that

[balmy wolf]

Honestly when they had mano meko libero nenne jjonak and anamo was the best lineup imo

[last nimbus]

where are the signings 😭

[tawdry hamlet]

Individually s3 nyxl is great but as a team they don't work

[balmy wolf]

I’m talking about s2

[willow drum]

remember when shanghai

shock

and dallas

were some of the worst teams in the league

[earnest leaf]

iirc shock were only bad for the first 3 stages of s1

then in stage 4 when super/sinatraa came of age, crusty and company came in

[earnest leaf]

man i'm watching s1 highlights

everyone sucks

lmao

[next mesa]

factual

the stage and the crowd tho

😭

[earnest leaf]

I still would love to see leave put back in time

into S1 of owl

and watch him massacre everyone

tracer is largely unchanged since then so it would work out too

[next mesa]

drop echo in s`

s1

fleta still gonna pick her up in like a week 🙏

[mortal cipher]

fleta is meta for a reason

[tropic herald]

Leave was a young man in s1 but he still would’ve dominated

[tawdry hamlet]

It is pretty wild how s1 owl looks worse than masters ladder now almost

Not that bad tbh but close lmao

[balmy wolf]

yea, it was a pretty big thing when people starting combo things with orisas halt

lots of smalls thing that over time became ingrained in players even in lower ranks

[tacit skiff]

as ow progresses without updates, people just get better and better at what's there

new tech gets found out, and it becomes mainstream

[earnest leaf]

I unironically think if you took me and put me in s1 owl, I would dominate

[next mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-laugh-teatime-gif-15199660

[trim shadow]

and then gets removed nerfed and locked in a cage

[earnest leaf]

bro I would hard gap rjh on winston

[tawdry hamlet]

Ryujehong when he has to do 15 swipes to turn 180 degrees

[earnest leaf]

Winston is the only hero I have a higher sens on

I sit at 800/6 normally, then use 800/9 for winston

[tiny pollen]

if i was a coach in owl s1 i would be best coach

or mt

[next mesa]

facts

[willow drum]

wtf i could solo s1 shd

[north relic]

https://twitter.com/NYXL/status/1459236419206066178?s=20

NYXL (@NYXL)

Our sources say OW2 will be mobile platform only.

Source: trust us bro.

Likes

1270

Twitter · Nov 12, 2021, 7:07 PM

Yo f2p?

[simple moon]

Way to photoshop

[sullen berry]

that's a cracked OW2 mobile leak tight there, yep

[mortal cipher]

fr

[next mesa]

Suh

[noble nexus]

Suh

[next mesa]

Channel kinda dead these days

Halo not blessin us

Apparently there's still one block buster move

[digital cloud]

S1 owl still required good aim

[willow tartan]

Diem signing still to happen

[earnest leaf]

my aim wouldn't be good enough for owl s1

but my MT would pound

[willow tartan]

im would be great coach in s1

[earnest leaf]

teach your team goats in s1

watch them dominate everyone

[cedar oasis]

Wait what's libero doing

[earnest leaf]

nft and crypto stuff

[devout path]

Brig didn’t exist till stage 4

[earnest leaf]

exactly

they'll get release broken brig

and pound playoffs

[last nimbus]

So whats the date where every team is obliged to have announced their roster

[willow tartan]

they dont have to announce it

theoretically, an overwatch league team could keep their whole roster under wraps and have the general public know about it on match day

all they need to do is have the league approve it

[earnest leaf]

iirc teams are at least required to have the minimum amount of players by January 5th?

[willow tartan]

yea but they dont have to announce it

[plush grail]

I really hope a team does that

Just don't announce shit

And on match day

Just roll out

[willow tartan]

Los Angeles Valiant

[vagrant cargo]

would be funny

[hot onyx]

OW2 6v6??

[willow tartan]

its 7v7 actually

[stuck radish]

3-1-3

dps players cant complain about GOATs having no dps anymore

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/Anamo_ow/status/1459539010687479813

Anamo (@Anamo_ow)

I am still LFT OWL
I am confident in my skills and full of passion for overwatch, so I think it's my last chance as a player and want to challenge myself.
Thank you for retweeting
Discord:Anamo#6509

Likes

269

Twitter · Nov 13, 2021, 3:09 PM

[next mesa]

Rip anamo

After the last 2 seasons

Oooff

There's still jecse on the market

[cedar oasis]

Anamo was always good

He never fell off

[sullen berry]

Strange why has Anamo dropped off on everyone's radar, not enough mixed rosters want him either?

Your OWWC Champion of 2018

Absolutely caned and adapted to GOATs being dished out with a roster of Profit and JJonak

[next mesa]

huh

anamo is trash

[plush grail]

????

anamo is NOT trash

[noble nexus]

Anamo is trash

[raw ermine]

He's mid

[next mesa]

u watch his games this year he had some decent games where he kept creative alive pretty well, and the rest is bashing off the map and being passive

[hot onyx]

Anamo is comparable to Faith

I would argue worse

[next mesa]

worse

[trail perch]

Ok the bash was one time

And he was baited

[next mesa]

he fell off like twice in the same map

[worn falcon]

Anamo is OP

Where's mek0

[tawdry hamlet]

If a player was once considered good no matter how they are now over half this chat will still get mad when they're called not good anymore

[north relic]

where

[earnest leaf]

yo bro trust me jjonak is totally still a top tier FS that can totally hang with the top tier FS players

[sullen berry]

Hey what's everyone expectations of Dallas next year

[hot onyx]

High-ish

It’s technically an upgrade to last year

Two full time hitscans

And a better ms

And the core 5 that brought them to 1st 2nd 3rd we don’t talk about this and 3rd

[north relic]

Dallas so good a third place is unspeakable

I would put them top 7 with the possibility of going very high again

[hot onyx]

Arguably the best tankline in the league

And a top tier support line

Edison and Guriyo just have to not throw the games and they’re golden

Even then I see them running Sp9rk1e-Doha like 80% of the time

[north relic]

Can’t say that when shd exists man

Void hanbin is arguable but fearless off his two tricks is very bad

[devout path]

Can’t say that when hadi poko exists man

[north relic]

Mb

Has titans or valiant signed anyone yet

[hot onyx]

There are 4 main tanks

And Fearless ball has heavily improved

Flat out diffed Chengdu in playoffs

[devout path]

Everyone bad at orisa

Orisa getting reworked gg

[north relic]

Actually though orisa probably dogshit in ow2 don’t quote

[tawdry hamlet]

Actually this chat af 💀

[earnest leaf]

also with fury this year

where he would get gapped by every other OT in matches and people still thought he was top 5

[stuck radish]

fury will always be one of the best in my eyes even if he gets gapped by showcheng or smth

[north relic]

https://twitter.com/Hangzhou_Spark/status/1459717730110607360
https://twitter.com/Hangzhou_Spark/status/1459720240242245637

Hangzhou Spark (@Hangzhou_Spark)

After consultation of both parts, a final agreement was reached.
Today we part ways with our Team Manager, DoubleSai.

Since the team was built, he has always been the heart of us, we sincerely thank him for his hard work these years.

Wish you the best, DoubleSai!

Twitter · Nov 14, 2021, 3:00 AM

Hangzhou Spark (@Hangzhou_Spark)

Today we say thank you to OnlyWish for his warm heart and hard work as our Assistant Coach.

Seeing friends leaving has is sad, but we will always be grateful of you and your works!

Thank you and goodbye, OnlyWish!

Twitter · Nov 14, 2021, 3:10 AM

hangzhou keep a coach challenge(impossible)

[worn falcon]

Which coach are available?

At least for apac?

Pajion? Agape? Andante?

https://twitter.com/xzi_ow/status/1459694207510011906?s=21

Xzi (@xzi_ow)

I'm still FA now
Agent : Rio Company
Discord : RIO Steven#5340
Or : Xzi#0948
Email : [e-mail]
RTs appreciated
Thank you.

Retweets

103

Likes

651

Twitter · Nov 14, 2021, 1:26 AM

[tawdry hamlet]

So like

Why did striker diem Xzi pine all quit and come back only for 1/4 of them to get signed

[noble nexus]

tbf striker and xzi never really quit quit I don't think

it was just striker took a break and xzi was injured

[fallen turret]

Also xzi or Diem will probably get signed eventually

[tawdry hamlet]

Just saying, if aimgod is resigned and diem isn't I'll explode

Diem could be fun for upgrading Chengdu since they've always been mid af with their hitscans when leave has to play flex

Like taro jimmy kaneki baconjack

Peak midscan

He could be hella good for charge but they probably want a tracer player

[fallen turret]

Could Diem play in Na?

[tawdry hamlet]

He could I think but idk where

[fallen turret]

Florida or Houston maybe

[fallen turret]

Nvm Florida has hydron

[next mesa]

He can tho

Watch him play lately

Cracked as fuck

Also fearless gaps fate on 2 heroes while fate gaps fearless on the other 2 I'd say it's pretty even

[earnest leaf]

speaking of fearless

mans rein gets too much praise

it's way too inconsistent for a top tier tank player

[next mesa]

False

Godly rein

[earnest leaf]

when his rein is good it's top 3

but it randomly drops in performance

like he would get hard gapped by mag one map

then shit stomp him the next

[tawdry hamlet]

I think when you're a player as popular as fearless overrating is inevitable regardless of performance

[earnest leaf]

I think his winston actually deserves all the praise it gets

[tawdry hamlet]

It happens to all the popular players

[earnest leaf]

but his rein is portrayed a bit too highly imo

[next mesa]

He got gapped by map like one map

[tawdry hamlet]

When will people move on from the carpe train

[next mesa]

And on that map he still gapped him in the final round

[tawdry hamlet]

Fits is better than carpe now

[earnest leaf]

Carpe has always been lower than top tier hitscans

Carpe just was more flexible than a lot of them for a while

But now dps players are playing more than 2 heroes a season

So he doesn't have the flexibility over others now

[tawdry hamlet]

Hmm, I wonder how badly bqb or Xzi or fits or diem would do on tracer

[earnest leaf]

my guess is their tracer would be similar to happy/ans tier

like not bad

just kinda ok

[tawdry hamlet]

I'm just glad sbb retired so we can stop getting the people who unironically think he could bench profit or fits

[earnest leaf]

People thought sbb was the better tracer in s3

while striker was rolling

[tawdry hamlet]

People thought that whole nyxl team was stacked when most.of those players had fallen off or were falling off

JJonak Fury and Mano are all not that good anymore but good luck getting anyone to accept that lmao

JJonak is at least above average still but fury and Mano suck and nobody will admit it

[earnest leaf]

People were still mentioning fury about best OT last year

When people like vestola were better

even when fury's sig was meh

[tawdry hamlet]

Can't believe Paris kept Daan speaking of Paris

[earnest leaf]

yea

actually unlucky

[tawdry hamlet]

Tbh both eu teams threw on their tanklines 💀

Poko Hadi 😈

[earnest leaf]

I'll give hadi a second chance similar to mag

maybe their backline truly was the biggest issue

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't know, mag at least looked like he was doing things right even when his team was failing, Hadi looked just as lost as everyone else like the whole time imo

Idk I just thought his positioning was crazy bad

But Kellex Ripa < Fire Roolf so I have to at least give a shot, although I'd prefer to see him on hurricane again before I trust him being fully signed over lullsish

Either way he wasn't as bad as his good ol buddy hybrid that he got on the team 💀

[earnest leaf]

shame hybrid played over shax ever

[tawdry hamlet]

It's a shame shax got his career derailed lmaoo

London tanked his stocks so hard that being insane in s3 on tracer just didn't matter

[tiny pollen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/233904315247362048/885956633778335774/image0.gif

[novel owl]

LMAO

well headbobin is annoyin tbh

as mccree

[next mesa]

Cassidy

[balmy wolf]

best off tank FA and main support FA go

[next mesa]

Off tank fa

Probably

Coluge

Ms

I'd say

Jecse

No haoyoqian

[little tusk]

yeh I started watching owl during season 3 and jjonak has legit done nothing impressive

he seems kinda average

[vagrant cargo]

gargoyle superrich

[last nimbus]

im not trying to come off as a nyxl-jjonak fan here but its true that jjonak looks terrible cause his team was very mediocre

people do play better if they are in better teams usually

[little tusk]

idk u had ppl like shockwave who looked amazing in a shit tier team

but I guess that's cuz shockwave is dps and jjonak support

[last nimbus]

i feel like its easier to make big plays as dps than support

[trim shadow]

and coaching failed

[little tusk]

I always wonder how much coaching really affects stuff

People in every sport seem to put a lot of fault into coaches when stuff goes wrong

Not like a coach can magically increase a person's skill

[last nimbus]

look at seoul last season

:)

[next mesa]

jjonak looked very good this season tho

[next mesa]

when is superich getting signed 🥺 😩 🙏

[hot onyx]

Clestyn and Sanguinaar

[vagrant cargo]

soon inshallah

[vagrant cargo]

uh

thats what coaches do

[next mesa]

🙏 🙏

[vagrant cargo]

In terms of mechanics most owl dps are very very close

[next mesa]

valiant actually spend money this year

[vagrant cargo]

its coaching that makes the difference

[next mesa]

yes

[vagrant cargo]

look at glister on X6 vs Glister on gen.G for example

or benbest under rush vs benbest under fefe

[hot onyx]

NineK transformed Hotba from a bottom tier at best ot to a top 10 ot

Coaches play a heavy part

[vagrant cargo]

yeah

[hot onyx]

Unter in Atlanta

[vagrant cargo]

thats why Toronto will be the best team

[hot onyx]

GetAmazed on Paris

[next mesa]

ngl even like roolf

[vagrant cargo]

because we have muze and the goat mobydik

and KDG is goat

[next mesa]

had pretty good mechanics

[vagrant cargo]

yea

[next mesa]

also hotba wasnt top 10 OT bro stop trippin fusion fan

[hot onyx]

Imagine having KDG and Mobydik and releasing them alongside Sado after one season of barely not winning a title

[next mesa]

well i mean

they were gonna get ninek

it was like understandable

honestly after what kdg did on seoul he's a bit overrated to me

[hot onyx]

Void Hanbin Hawk Space LateYoung Piggy Choihyobin Hotba

Minimum

[little tusk]

do any of u think Sojourn will be released before ow2?

[trim shadow]

which is a true but most of the time discipline strategies and synergy ends up on the coach

[next mesa]

who the fuck knows dude probably not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKUK8GO1Sgk

about to be a banger

[gusty rampart]

https://twitter.com/Tabithabrownx/status/1459667130891264007?t=04Gh0W3_-59jiHe7E7melQ&s=19

Tabby (@Tabithabrownx)

@super_OW yeah I love when u destroy my toilet babe 🥰

Likes

923

Twitter · Nov 13, 2021, 11:38 PM

[gusty rampart]

Gargoyle Moth probably

[trail perch]

Max is free agent

And so is Faze

And so is Cane

And so is Attack

Also so is Kalios

Also so is Sanguinar

And that guy can actually play brig

And bap

[willow tartan]

god i am so fucking dead inside without owl to look forward to

[next mesa]

same

@willow tartan how are the shanghai dragons

[willow tartan]

no news, their roster is solidified and now im just watching for dding and diem signings

[gusty rampart]

Fusion or Dragons will sign Diem

[willow tartan]

why would fusion do it?

they have mn3 and carpe

[gusty rampart]

For Carpe Diem

[next mesa]

sell mn3

to dragons

mn3 bench time

[gusty rampart]

Dragons the type of silly billies to sign 4 DPS knowing full well they'll just play Fleta and LIP

[next mesa]

what a silly billy

[cedar oasis]

i just remembered when nyxl had libero whoru and haksal in that genji meta

[plush grail]

dont

mention it

[cedar oasis]

i shal and i will

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-eating-ok-and-gif-19666657

[cedar oasis]

shut ur mouth

[plush grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/882187150060310538.gif?v=1

[cedar oasis]

ugly

[noble nexus]

based Luigi

[plush grail]

wtf

blue jack

[noble nexus]

😔

no longer the superior colour

[plush grail]

become purple

[noble nexus]

ew

yucky colour

the only colour worse than the purple one is yellow

[plush grail]

nobody cares + im eating ice cream so im winning

[tiny pollen]

ratio

[noble nexus]

who asked + you're mother

[plush grail]

ur just mad cuz u also want ice cream

if ur nice

i will give u a bit

[north relic]

What flavor

[plush grail]

ben and jerry's caramel chew chew

[north relic]

Why are Ben and jerry names so odd

[plush grail]

idk

[noble nexus]

I don't like ice cream

[plush grail]

tbh

[noble nexus]

smh

[plush grail]

caramel chew chew >>> atlanta reign

[noble nexus]

based

[north relic]

anything >>> reign

[plush grail]

ian > jack

[north relic]

?

Ian > blue jack

[noble nexus]

??????????????

literally not even close to factual

[north relic]

Pink jack > ian

[noble nexus]

me > you

[plush grail]

gonna beg for people to buy me more ice cream

[next mesa]

u know whats best ice cream flavor

that superman superkid shit

the yellow red blue one

[plush grail]

are u 12

[next mesa]

holy fuck so good

no like not even capping

[plush grail]

send a pic

[next mesa]

its like banana blueberry and some other thing

just so good

[plush grail]

that doesnt sound tasty

im a chocolate vanilla type guy

[next mesa]

not even capping

yeah chocolate vanilla

is like really good

[plush grail]

looks ew

[next mesa]

i only order it when im like

ordering the soft serve ones

yeah ikr

it looks nasty

like that bubble gum stuff

but holy shit so good

[plush grail]

i doubt i can even order it here

[novel owl]

what is that

looks like some kind of dye

my fav is chocomint

[next mesa]

i think at most like ice cream shops it will be offered

[plush grail]

What's it's name again

[vagrant jacinth]

Ice cream tier list when?

[last nimbus]

Wait what

thought Diem was washed af

[next mesa]

how

how can best widow goat be washed

never

thats like ssaying striker will be washed

[cedar oasis]

i mean

[noble nexus]

Striker is washed

[cedar oasis]

what has he been doing?

[noble nexus]

dalton better

[cedar oasis]

if he stopped playing ow then he might be worse

[cedar oasis]

actually every hitscan player has a good tracer dont they

[gusty rampart]

Debatable

[hot onyx]

It is debatable

But I’ve never really seen players like Fits Shy sHockWave Kai Heesu Happy or Birdring whip out tracer at as high of a level as their hardcore hitscan heroes

[trail perch]

?????

Ur dumb

Birdring was one of the best tracers

Shy was fucking sick on tracer

Happy was great on tracer

[willow tartan]

lip is the only hitscan player in the league that matters so i agree with this statement

[earnest leaf]

Happy was mega mediocre on tracer

Birdring tracer was decent but never that special

[trail perch]

s1 he was a top 4 tracer

Striker SBB Profit and Birdring where the top 4

that was either striker or sbbs own rankings i forgot who

[earnest leaf]

No one cares about s1 anymore

Birdring tracer is a solid a bit above average

Better than people like ans/kai/happy on tracer

But not punching up to people like leave/kevster/lip/fleta etc

[next mesa]

Yeah s1 kinda irrelevant

[willow tartan]

every season that is not the current one ongoing is irrelevant because every year the league levels up

[plush grail]

yyou are not relevant

[hot onyx]

Season 1 Poko was a top 4 off tank, what’s your argument?

[willow tartan]

gf [girlfriend]

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-eating-ok-and-gif-19666657

[noble nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-eating-ok-and-gif-19666657

[willow drum]

truth

[tawdry hamlet]

Imt didn't fail s3 nyxl, they failed themselves

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/Hangzhou_Spark/status/1460080191061909505

Hangzhou Spark (@Hangzhou_Spark)

Today's the 3rd anniversary of the Hangzhou Spark. We would like to thank all of our fans and staff for your support and dedication.

AND,
We can’t celebrate our 3rd birthday without a fresh look, right?

Now friends, please give warm welcomes to:

Twitter · Nov 15, 2021, 3:00 AM

[trail perch]

FUCK YEAH

REAL COACHES

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FINALLY

MY TEAM!!!!!

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/hangzhou_spark/status/1460080208438906886?s=21

Hangzhou Spark (@Hangzhou_Spark)

“I'm honored to lead Spark for the new season of OWL in OW2. Coaching a mixed team is new for me, and I think our team roster has sufficient competitiveness, but still room for growth. I’ll try my best to lead Spark to a team that is worth your cheers!”

Head Coach, @changgOW !

Twitter · Nov 15, 2021, 3:00 AM

[trail perch]

IK CHANGOON SUCKS

BUT

[hot onyx]

@next mesa

[trail perch]

BUT

BUT

BUT

EVERYONE ELSE IS CRACKED

AND CHANGOON HAS REAL EXPERIENCE

SO THIS ROSTER MIGHT MESH REALLY WELL

ALSO CHANGOON HAS HAD MOMENTS OF GREATNESS

[hot onyx]

Or it’ll flop again like the previous 3 years

[trail perch]

LIKE WHEN HE FIGURED OUT HOG SIG BEFORE EVRYONE

OR ASHE TRACER

ETC.

I TRUST!!!!

SPARK FIGHTING

[hot onyx]

And I thought Fusion fans overdosed on copium

[noble nexus]

We already knew this guy ODs on copium

Dude really tried to argue justice being a top team in playoffs

[hot onyx]

oh yeah I forgot about that

Mfw an argument is made where Decay can carry Closer and Bebe to top 4

[tropic herald]

oh great another spark roster where i feel the same thing lol

[fallen turret]

Spark rotating staff moment

[sullen berry]

I feel like it's a shallow improvement

[next mesa]

thats what i said to myself this season

"changoon got the playoff meta right perfectly faster than anyone surely he hit an epiphany and he's actually not that bad tbh"

[sullen berry]

nobody could do his role better among the coaches they've picked up

Miro will fit right at home with guxue I guess

Like McGravy to Adam

[trim shadow]

isnt it still basically sorts the same roster

[next mesa]

I wonder if wheats is getting picked up

coach for at/redbirds

like why isnt he

[hot onyx]

Bold of you to assume that Guxue is not going to get replaced by 800

[sullen berry]

Thanks for missing me sans

It's only been a weekens

[hot onyx]

Yo’ure welcome

[tawdry hamlet]

Lmaoo

The change from
Fuck yeah real coaches finally !!!

To

Ok I know changgoon sucks

[earnest leaf]

Oh boy I can't wait for spark to go another season going .500

[tawdry hamlet]

Architect is literally the definition of a .500 player tbh

Which is a shame since he probably would have had a good career elsewhere

Since spark literally can't build a roster that even on paper is above mid

[stuck radish]

give spark shd roster and they would lose to charge

[gusty rampart]

Spark lose

Another awful year for them

[tawdry hamlet]

Factual lmao

[noble nexus]

Nah give Spark Dallas’ roster and they beat Shanghai and then lose to Valiant the next day

[tawdry hamlet]

Give nyxl Shanghais roster and they lose to charge but give them sparks roster and they win the championship

[gusty rampart]

NYXL will have a redemption arc

[novel owl]

nyxl is so dead without jjonak, have they confirmed their roster ?

[gusty rampart]

Not yet

Myunb0ng, Yaki, Gangnamjin, and Kellen have been rumored to go to NYXL by Halo

[novel owl]

well they gotta try to change their strat since they relied on jjonak too much

im curious to see off tanks players in ow2

[gusty rampart]

NYXL will be above average/mid tier

[novel owl]

well ow2 will probably change the tiers a bit anyway

but theyll probably still using sombra tracer due to how good sombra is in flanking in ow2

[earnest leaf]

My guess is teams with known good players will still be good

I highly doubt we'll see any team have a drastic drop in performance

But I think bad teams are going to be really bad

[novel owl]

yeah itll be probably that

[worn falcon]

Wait, miro the mt?

[noble nexus]

Assistant coach

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/eyleahcbye/status/1460187808006561795

hayley 希文 (@eyleahcbye)

21115 GodsB Discord update about his future

Twitter · Nov 15, 2021, 10:07 AM

[trim shadow]

big hit for hangzhou

[plush grail]

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/KarivOW/status/1460254646954385411

KariV (@KarivOW)

https://t.co/ovmAudSUxr who wanna duo with me on the NA

Twitter · Nov 15, 2021, 2:33 PM

Free duo with Kariv? 👀

[digital cloud]

Man I would but I have school and also I am not gm

[plush grail]

Ur plat

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/eyleahcbye/status/1460187808006561795?s=20

hayley 希文 (@eyleahcbye)

21115 GodsB Discord update about his future

Likes

146

Twitter · Nov 15, 2021, 10:07 AM

[last nimbus]

Not going to lie plat is the best rank if you arent in gm

Diamond sucks balls masters sucks balls gold and silver also and bronze is just funny

[next mesa]

bronze second best rank

sike

lowkey first

[last nimbus]

I have an alt where i vibe in bronze

[willow tartan]

best rank is t10

[lofty jewel]

Satire?

[north relic]

Copium your alt is higher than your main

[slate turtle]

silver has the best players thoughts on that?

[fervent pivot]

Ofc ofc

i play in bronze on purpose!

[last nimbus]

i honestly think plat is better than diamond or masters

when i played in ~3300 i never encountered that much toxic and know-it-alls. not a fun rank

plat is toxic too but way less imo

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1460317432938221573

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

I can’t wait to see what the “OwL tEaMs HaTe HaLo” brigade have to say when I show you a little something tomorrow

Twitter · Nov 15, 2021, 6:43 PM

[willow tartan]

finally, sustenance

soon shall it be delivered

[next mesa]

fucking finally im starving

[tiny pollen]

mid diamond best rank

High plat worst

[digital cloud]

I wonder why halo thinks we dislike him

Basically no reason to

[tiny pollen]

I think some people do

esp with the retirement leaks

[mortal cipher]

ah

[earnest leaf]

Mid dia is awful

[tiny pollen]

Mid diamond is great I mute comms lock ball and put music on

[mortal cipher]

bronze is just silence

[tiny pollen]

Silence > teammates talking

[hot onyx]

Mid gold find a group >

[mortal cipher]

find a game where someone doesnt leave mid game challenge

[cedar oasis]

the game of life

[balmy wolf]

same, my dad ragequit to another game ):

[cedar oasis]

umm

the game of dying

no one can quit that

[lofty jewel]

And masters?

[lofty jewel]

You are literally what’s wrong with this game

[gusty rampart]

Haha

[lofty jewel]

Hence why you are hard stack diamond

[gusty rampart]

I do the exact same

But I spawn camp as Lucio

No heals

[lofty jewel]

That’s worse

[gusty rampart]

If someone is in my aoe

Fuck that

I'm dipping

[lofty jewel]

Hah 😐

[gusty rampart]

If Lucio gets taken

You know I'm auto locking Zenyatta

[tiny pollen]

ranked isnt team game

also im not hardstuck

when i play ranked like 2 days a week

and still dominate ranked

[lofty jewel]

Mhm

Yea buddy

I’m sure

that’s true

No lies here

[next mesa]

who are u even

[balmy wolf]

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/stick-bug-gif-18910704

[noble nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-dancing-lizard-cry-about-it-gecko-dance-gif-20175430

[true osprey]

Wait miro no way 😳

Does anyone know how good he was as a coach on team diamond

[hot onyx]

I am bored

Quick somebody say something controversial

[tired zodiac]

glister ws an amazinzg dps

[hot onyx]

Depending on your definition of amazing depends on your controversy meter

[fallen turret]

thought on these power rankings so far?
S: Glads, Dragons, Fuel
A: Atlanta, Shock, Outlaws, Chengdu
B: Toronto, Mayhem, Philly, Seoul
C: New york, Paris, Vancouver, Washington
D: Boston, Spark, Charge
F: London
No Players: Valiant

[gusty rampart]

Whomegalul https://twitter.com/Hangzhou_Spark/status/1460442508131983362?t=-eY0EXJgP1dsDsbuNpMdug&s=19

Hangzhou Spark (@Hangzhou_Spark)

The trail from Bilibili Gaming to Hangzhou Spark has opened to Li “Pineapple” Zhuo, the outstanding hitscan himself!

Welcome to Spark, No. 15 Pineapple!

(*Pending League approval) https://t.co/IdnlAsc5DE

Likes

119

▶ Play video

Twitter · Nov 16, 2021, 3:00 AM

[gusty rampart]

For 2022?

[fallen turret]

Yes

[hot onyx]

Good player that’s whomegalul

[gusty rampart]

LMAO no

[noble nexus]

I don’t get having pineapple and shy

Unless they lost shy

[hot onyx]

Very possible that Hunters bought Shy

[hot onyx]

Mayhem and London too high

[gusty rampart]

S. Dragons, Glads, Dynasty
A. Outlaws, Reign, Shock, Hunters
B. Toronto, NYXL, Uprising, Philidelphia
C. Mayhem, Paris, Titans, Justice
D. Charge, Spark
F. London

Valiant has made zero moves

[fallen turret]

Seoul are not better than shock or reign rn

[gusty rampart]

????????

JJoNak? Smurf? ProFits?

Are you high?

[hot onyx]

Champ you’re tripping if you’re rating dynasty higher than Outlaws and Shonk

[gusty rampart]

Dynasty is going to be hella good

[noble nexus]

We can all hope

[hot onyx]

Mid tier flex support past his prime, single main tank with one top tier hero and the most overrated dps duo in the league

[noble nexus]

Even tho I’m a spark fan

Shy to chengdu would be lit

[gusty rampart]

Fusion has 2 hitscans and a dream atm

[tropic herald]

how u gonna whomegalul pineapple

[gusty rampart]

Didn't watch Chinese contenders

[hot onyx]

Fusion had a chance now we have depression

[gusty rampart]

Very true

[noble nexus]

Also Seoul potentially A but it’s not a guarantee

[gusty rampart]

It is

[hot onyx]

It is not

[gusty rampart]

It is

[noble nexus]

It isn’t S1 anymore Jjonak isn’t that good

[hot onyx]

Seoul end 7th-8th best case scenario

[gusty rampart]

JJoNak doubters literally never watch his POV

[hot onyx]

Destiny

[gusty rampart]

That guy is still insane

[noble nexus]

Their coaching is shaky at best

[hot onyx]

S5 Dynasty is the new S4 Justice

[earnest leaf]

jjonak is in an oge situation imo this year

no excuses if he doesn't keep up

[noble nexus]

7-8th is a little bit spicy but yeah Seoul aren’t guaranteed success

[earnest leaf]

s5 seoul better than s4 justice at every role tbf

[hot onyx]

Off tank

[earnest leaf]

fury so washed smurf prolly better

[noble nexus]

S5 Seoul bodies S4 Justice honestly

[hot onyx]

Yes but we have the power of hindsight to make that judgement

[noble nexus]

But yeah if Seoul don’t perform they’ll be pulling a S4 Washington type beat

[hot onyx]

Hot take

Creative is going to play over JJonak more often than people think

And Stalk3r is going to have more game time than people think

[noble nexus]

In what situation does Creative play over Jjonak

[earnest leaf]

They'll more than likely play together

unless vindaim has a better brig than one of them

[next mesa]

wrong

Seoul S tier

[noble nexus]

Ok chill out Levy

[next mesa]

? Vindaim is literally top 5 brig right now

[earnest leaf]

bro I don't fucking watch contenders

[next mesa]

ohhh

yeahhh

mb

vindaim probably has the best brig

out of the 3

chiyo vindaim chorong

the areas he's lacking are mercy and lucio

[earnest leaf]

then my guess is it comes down to what other support is meta

zen jjonak would probably play

[next mesa]

chiyo and chorong outshine him cuz we dont see vindaim on other supports much

[earnest leaf]

ana creative might run it

bapt idk

[next mesa]

ana jjonak is gonna run it too

I rate Jjonak ana s tier creative A-

[hot onyx]

JJonak bap is a whacky sight

[next mesa]

to A+ on a good day

it used to be but i watched his vods actually not too bad

i think he's better than creative

i think creative is only plyaing in double fs only

playing*

also its great to see pineapple getting signed

[fallen turret]

Regardless, we don’t know how good smurf is outside of shock

[earnest leaf]

smurf is very good

[next mesa]

best chinese hitscan

smurf is just individually good

[hot onyx]

We don’t know how good Pelican is outside of Atlanta

[fallen turret]

True

[earnest leaf]

smurf's only question is his rein

and the few times we saw it, he did well

[hot onyx]

We don’t know how good Proper is outside of O2

[fallen turret]

And confidence

[hot onyx]

We don’t know how good MuZe is outside of Gladiators

[next mesa]

smurf i think mental health issues

[hot onyx]

We don’t know how good FunnyAstro is outside of Fusion

[next mesa]

smurf's rein is okay but like

ik this is early but

[earnest leaf]

I think it was more shock got fucked mentally as a team

[next mesa]

dont see rein will be meta that much

[hot onyx]

We don’t know how good Marve1 is outside of Seoul

[earnest leaf]

But idc what people say, smurf is a top 2 winston, easily top 5 orisa, and a top tier ball

[fallen turret]

Also it’s gonna be hard for smurf if Seoul don’t sign off tank

[hot onyx]

We don’t know how good Iris is outside of Atlanta

[fallen turret]

Stop

[noble nexus]

Smurf has never really had to grind his rein out tho and it’s never been bad

[earnest leaf]

we need to remember

[next mesa]

Seoul stated they are keeping options open

[earnest leaf]

smurf was benched by the best rein

so it's not like smurf is bad at him

[next mesa]

intentionally not signing OT

they want to see how the game looks

[gusty rampart]

They'll sign Choi

jkjk

[next mesa]

before signing a player

[earnest leaf]

smurf has pretty good mechanics too

so I think he can learn shit like sig and dva

his zarya is also good

[hot onyx]

At least my point is proven + we don’t know how good Ans is outside of the Shock

[next mesa]

LMAO

well we know how good ans is outside of overwatch

https://tenor.com/view/worriedface-gif-4425173

[earnest leaf]

tbf he played for like 4 months in valorant

[next mesa]

yeah

apparently they trialed him and he was trash

[hot onyx]

4 months too many

[next mesa]

idk if he was kicked out though

but he was going back to korea

but then crusty hit him up

and was like

buddy come back

[earnest leaf]

I think t1 valorant at the time was a shit show

[hot onyx]

Be like me and install the game only to play the tutorial then uninstall

[next mesa]

yeah anyways

shock got boomed

its a known fact that

3peats

are the hardest achievements in sports

[hot onyx]

4peats

[next mesa]

like obviously 4 peat 5 peat harder

i meant like

the frequency of 3 peats

the jump is the highest

[earnest leaf]

I think if shock retained their entire s3 roster they could have threepeated

coaching staff and all

[next mesa]

im actually not too sure

[hot onyx]

Rascal

[next mesa]

i think they would be neck and neck w dallas

but i think dallas still wins first tourney right

[earnest leaf]

I think shd would be very hard considering how often ball was meta

[hot onyx]

Remember the Rascal washup of 2021

[next mesa]

yeah exactly

[hot onyx]

To the point where Nero was better

[earnest leaf]

but I think for what we saw in finals shock with their s3 roster would have been pretty spooky

[next mesa]

i think dallas would fall off a cliff more

like faster

they would win first tourney

but that means

[hot onyx]

And where a lot of the time Glister was more consistent than Striker and Ans

[next mesa]

dragons still develop ball comp

and then dallas and shock goes to hawaii second time

but they get beat by dragons

[earnest leaf]

I've said it before

[next mesa]

third tourney shock goes dallas lose

dragons still wins finals

imo

[earnest leaf]

SHD > s3 shock in dive or ball metas

dive with winston it would be close

but ball shock would 100% lose out

in rush or poke comps shock imo would take it

[hot onyx]

Trip

[next mesa]

yeah but this season dragons just figured out how to play ball and demolish rush

[hot onyx]

Dragons poke

[next mesa]

poke comps honestly fate orisa void dva & pharmercy i would still take dragons

that version

double shield ashe tracer then it gets really close and probably shock takes that

[earnest leaf]

I think poke would be close but imo s3 shock dps in poke comps was fucking op

[hot onyx]

Idk

Fate orisa Void sigma Lip ashe Fleta tracer

Pretty elite

[next mesa]

I think lip ashe match ans

fleta could get diffed

but izayaki levels up and matches viol2t

and

ljg brig better than moth or twilight

[earnest leaf]

if viol2t plays his normal self no one beats him on zen

[hot onyx]

I can name at least one flex support player who could’ve

[next mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/dramatic-cry-will-ferrell-gif-13298637

[earnest leaf]

Alarm had a nasty fucking zen but viol2t was a different breed

[next mesa]

yeah

[earnest leaf]

prolly a top 3 zen

[next mesa]

alarm was so good because elite on ana as well

alarm izayaki neck and neck

top 2 ana

top 3 zen bap

[hot onyx]

Don’t forget the brig

Man flexed far too hard

Easily one of the best choices for a fs

[next mesa]

yuh

if u build a team

want fs

u would go alarm

however

full fantasy team i would go viol2t

kinda like steph curry vs magic johnson

[earnest leaf]

alarm or izayaki as the sole fs imo

[hot onyx]

^^

Easily

[next mesa]

in a full fantasy team the rest of the players can easily cover viol2t's flaws and let him shine more

but in like realistic team

[hot onyx]

I’d rather have a top 3 zen bap and top 2 ana than a top 1 zen bap and mid at best ana

[next mesa]

alarm or izayaki

[earnest leaf]

I actually wonder how good viol2t's ana is

[hot onyx]

And even then Viol2t had inconsistencies at times especially s4

[earnest leaf]

since we rarely see it

[hot onyx]

Considering he is more willing to play Cowboy Jenkins and echo than ana I dread to think about it

[earnest leaf]

he played dps for like 3 maps

in one stage

[hot onyx]

Also more willing to play main support than ana

[earnest leaf]

also having a top 2 ana on your team makes it hard to justify him on ana

[noble nexus]

Honestly I’d only ever pick Viol2t for a team if I knew i was getting a MS that wouldn’t feed as hard as FD

[hot onyx]

Good lord imagine Viol2t LJG

[noble nexus]

Also pick Shu just so you atleast win every Havana map you play

[hot onyx]

Is GNJ a free agent?

[noble nexus]

I think so

[next mesa]

good enough

he was playing ana in grand finals

[earnest leaf]

way back in s2 yea

[next mesa]

no

s3

he played ana

i think it was hollywood

[earnest leaf]

he did?

[next mesa]

i def remember him playing ana on hollywood

[earnest leaf]

Thought he played like 99% zen

[next mesa]

yea he did

[earnest leaf]

seoul ran ana

[next mesa]

i think sometimes they ran ana on payload

wait

oh okay

not grand finals

first day

viol2t played some ana

okay yeah

3 naps dayum

[hot onyx]

Cool beans

[tawdry hamlet]

Pineapple shy hitscan duo

With architect off da bench sheesh

It's .500 time now Baby

[next mesa]

Why did chengdu extend jimmy and tarocookie

like

does that mean no apr1ta

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk

Chengdu always lacked a dedicated third dps that covered things. Like when jinmus pool isn't in play leave has to struggle to do too much, I think they need to decide whether they want leave permanently on hitscan or permanently flex since having him do both taking away playtime from taro and Jimmy might win them in the short term but like long run Jimmy and taro never improve and Jinmu plays pharah Sombra forever

Basically Jinmu learn new heroes or gtfo of starting lineup