esports-discussion

[past spoke]

when they cant balance the normal 6v6

without like

extreme outrage from casual and competitive

communiry

LOOOL

[forest raven]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1455861632857477121?s=21

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

Love me, hate me, think I have an ego after this tweet. I don’t care. Right now, during this offseason, I am single handedly keeping interest in OWL high.

Likes

505

Twitter · Nov 3, 2021, 11:37 AM

[trim shadow]

i said when they first announced ow2 that it was a bandaid cause they lost the plot with 6v6

[forest raven]

So fucking based

[balmy wolf]

who

[trim shadow]

uk what halo is probably right

cause why blizzard is taking a 50 feet tumble you get shit like jjonak to seoul with smurf

[past spoke]

i wouldnt say hes carrying ow by announcing pickups one day before they are announced on team twitter

[tiny pollen]

He is carrying

[plush grail]

he's just giving us stuff to talk about

speculation

[tropic herald]

Xzi got a team apparently

[hot onyx]

Spark release Shy for Xzi and Shy goes to Hunters

Sounds like a good trade

[forest raven]

No

Please don't put xzi on spark

[hot onyx]

Alright how about my alternative

Valiant are staying in apac this year

Imo Xzi is an upgrade to Krystal

[tropic herald]

Someone was joking Xzi Shanghai

But

Thinking

It’s not that bad

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1455909461814648833

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

#makeoverwatchF2P

Likes

375

Twitter · Nov 3, 2021, 2:47 PM

[hot onyx]

Wait Xzi could go to NYXL

[worn falcon]

Nyxl?

Spark?

Charge?

[hot onyx]

If they give the coaching staff the revamp it desperately needed for 2 years now it’d be a huge pickup

[north relic]

🙏

[willow tartan]

Xzi to shanghai is never gonna happen

cause they're gonna sign diem to fill out secondary hitscan

🙏

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/spitfire/status/1455942889230503942?s=21

London Spitfire (@Spitfire)

We could not live without our Tank. Where did that bring us? Back to him.

Now landing: Welcome back @hadi_ow! #AcesHigh

Twitter · Nov 3, 2021, 5:00 PM

lol

[trim shadow]

hot take theres no other better tank for what they got going on other then hadi

[willow tartan]

Best EU tank

[hot onyx]

Had to check this wasn’t bait tf

[hot onyx]

Jkaru Lullsish and Hades would like a word

[willow tartan]

Lullsish?

[trim shadow]

when will lulsish get his chance dude got lost at sea and never played a set

[willow tartan]

You mean Mr. Shadowbanned from OWL never coming back Lullsish?

[raw ermine]

Hadi is back?

hm

[balmy wolf]

Changsik > Hadi

[willow tartan]

lol no

thats hard vancouver hopium

[north relic]

shit man I wanted hadi on my team

[willow tartan]

the eurochad

hadi takes a swig every time he dies in match

[noble nexus]

I really doubt they could've found a better EU MT so atleast they didn't gamble on letting Hadi go

[trim shadow]

chang has synergy sparkr and team?

[last nimbus]

spitfire going for another 1-15

[worn falcon]

changsik > hadi

[tiny pollen]

YES

GOAT 🐐 RE-SIGNED

[tropic herald]

Hadi S4 is Sado S2

[vagrant cargo]

did He?

[tropic herald]

Apparently

[twin bloom]

Thats cap

Hadi gapped him hard

[sullen berry]

I came believe it

[twin bloom]

In the titans v spitfire game

[sullen berry]

This is season 2 Sado whose about to pop tf off this time

For one week

On one map

[twin bloom]

None of them are better

[sullen berry]

Where he doesn't get subbed

Hades hasn't reached his peak imo

[vagrant cargo]

sado farmed whole season ur tweakin

[sullen berry]

He could with the current Spitfire roster in the making

[vagrant cargo]

watch his orisa performance in summer showdown finals, his monkey in maylee vs mayhem or his rein vs Atlanta in reg season

[sullen berry]

I know, I worded that wrong. Season 3 Sado was boss mode for the entire season until it took them a shot at a championship title

[vagrant cargo]

yeah his ball Was underwhelming back then

but he improved it a lot

[sullen berry]

They dipped harder than Atlanta

[cedar oasis]

ratlanta

[sullen berry]

Yeah I don't understand what happened for Philly to sink so low during s3 finals, 4th place was especially good up against Shanghai, late streak Seoul and Sock

[balmy wolf]

I love Atlanta

[sullen berry]

I follow Unter

So I'm a super glads fan when it comes to NA teams who can dominate the Alpha OW2 meta

[cedar oasis]

ratlanta

[sullen berry]

Ratlanta

[earnest leaf]

No fucking shot hadi is back

[sullen berry]

Gonna show Paris up this time

Just a soon as he charges into their backline on his own

Going Dvaless and Zaryaless with Hadi is going to be genuinely fun to watch

[tropic herald]

.

[devout path]

This implies hadi S5 is sado S3

[twin bloom]

He will be

Now he has eu alarm on his team

[tropic herald]

Idk if he will peak as high but he definitely look better

[mortal cipher]

lets see how this goes

[tiny pollen]

if hadi doesn't have a mickey mouse support line he will dominate

[last nimbus]

Im not mistaken if owl season 5 will still be played on ow2 right?

Or did the delayed release date push back owl too or something

[chrome copper]

Think so

I hope owl is gonna stomp on Blizzard so hard

Lose all their funding

Fuck them

[torn acorn]

when u realise hoston outlaws best team

[noble nexus]

when you're wrong

[fallen turret]

^

[torn acorn]

when ur wrong

[raw ermine]

so apparently Wya left LAV, and joined some contenders china team... lol

[noble nexus]

you still have Jake signed as a player

don't talk to me

[torn acorn]

Jjonak is daddy tho

ngl

[torn acorn]

someones mad which team u with?

[noble nexus]

Glads

the objectively better team

although idrc that much I just shitpost here

[cedar oasis]

glads better then houston

[next mesa]

Outlaws literally gonna be pelican show lol

[noble nexus]

Pelican and maybe Piggy

[torn acorn]

4-0 does that sound familiar?

YALL GOT WIPED

[noble nexus]

Danteh putting in some like borderline above average performances and Iris being ok but not like top3-5

[tacit skiff]

is London genuinely throwing four seasons in a row or am I misunderstanding something

[cedar oasis]

houston is actualy bottom 5 na

[noble nexus]

houston isn't bottom 5 NA

[last nimbus]

hadi is prob one of the best eu tanks still, so if they still want to go full eu i guess not

[noble nexus]

they're gonna be a top team

just not the best

[last nimbus]

pelican + danteh is a top tier dps duo

iris one of the best baps in the league

jake haha

[vagrant cargo]

didnt kevster legit ate danteh for breakfast in the matchup?

3-0 stomp

[cedar oasis]

danteh is not top tier

[vagrant cargo]

how many titles does Houston have?

0

how many times did yall made playoffs or hawaii?

0

[vagrant cargo]

danteh aint top tier and if that was their only dps they would be doomed for OW2

[last nimbus]

outlaws was good when it didnt matter 🥴

[vagrant cargo]

yeah

[cedar oasis]

that one time outlaws was good

it could be worse

you could be toronto and never be good

[vagrant cargo]

Toronto will be good now

[last nimbus]

isnt danteh still a top 5 tracer in the league

[vagrant cargo]

i am a Toronto fan

that means they win

[vagrant cargo]

fuck no

[hot onyx]

Toronto beat Atlanta who made grand finals

[cedar oasis]

atlanta trash tho

[hot onyx]

Preseason I agreed

But sadly they more than proved themselves as a top tier team last season

[vagrant cargo]

kevster yaki leave fleta shy lip

[cedar oasis]

thats like saying you beat up a 8 year old

[vagrant cargo]

All better

pelican diffed him too

Profit

[cedar oasis]

every team has a top 5 tracer

[hot onyx]

And sold their best player and a top support line in exchange for a mildly downgraded fdps, Edison 2.0 and a heavily downgraded support line

[north relic]

?

[tacit skiff]

striker + valentine is a top tier dps duo

[cedar oasis]

what has striker been doing

did he stop playing ow

[noble nexus]

probably curing world hunger with his tracer

[balmy wolf]

bruh i didnt know ur takes could be worse but here we are

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

[noble nexus]

I don't think the support line is thaaat big of a downgrade

it might be just as good if not better

[last nimbus]

what are supports for atlanta again

ultraviolet and?

[tropic herald]

ojee

[last nimbus]

they did well in contenders though

although contenders na isnt that great

[mortal abyss]

I have faith in them

Ojee is geneuinely insane on lucio

[last nimbus]

also werent reign going fully western

why is venom on their team 🤔

[mortal abyss]

Venom can speak pretty good english iirc

[tropic herald]

bc venom is cracked

[mortal abyss]

And his tracer is also insane

[last nimbus]

i havent seen him play

[mortal abyss]

He literally 1v6ed AT on tracer is was crazy

[last nimbus]

also why is no1 picking up main supports

fdgod masaa jecse moth

[noble nexus]

prolly something we don't know I'd assume

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-cooper-cat-hello-gif-23507980

[noble nexus]

hi :)

[twin bloom]

Ojee>masaa

Iris=UV

[noble nexus]

trueeee

[next mesa]

what the fuck no

not even close

is he even top 10

not rn he aint with venom in the league

😌

and proper

and stalker

lol

[willow drum]

We have

Leave

Lip

Striker

Stalk3r

Proper

Pelican

Venom

Profit

Fleta

Sparkle

Kevster

Yaki

I'd take all of those players over Danteh

[devout path]

But would you take danteh over danteh?

[cedar oasis]

nah

[gusty rampart]

I would

[north relic]

there is also decay, carpe, shax, (aspire maybe), choisehwan, and the best of all dalton

many more lol

[earnest leaf]

ngl danteh got a bit cucked still last season

his dps duo was either a mediocre af tracer or sombra

then his team trying to hard force dive for no reason

Danteh/pelican reminds me of Doha/Sparkle

[noble nexus]

except Pelican better than sparkle and Doha better than Danteh

[twin bloom]

Doha is not good

[next mesa]

his sombra fell off

😔

[willow drum]

ehhhh

carpe idk

[gusty rampart]

Doha is above average

B tier type beat

[turbid cargo]

Who are the best Dps players the Leauge has seen (at their peak)

[gusty rampart]

LIP

[twin bloom]

Danteh is better than doha

[gusty rampart]

Striker

Pelican

[twin bloom]

Because he can play tracer

Best dps at peak

[gusty rampart]

LIP and Fleta

Literally broken combo

[twin bloom]

Theholypig

Trust

[gusty rampart]

JJoNak peak was humongous

[twin bloom]

Cause his competition was really bad lol

The moment jjonak got real competition

He wasn't as dominant

Still really good

But not the best

[next mesa]

jjonak is literally underrated

rn

u watch his POVs still top 3 mechanically most insane player

[twin bloom]

Jjonak wen't from by far the best FS to a decent FS

Because other teams

[next mesa]

he was on a shit team though for 2 years in a row

[twin bloom]

Got good flex supports

Lol

[twin bloom]

Nyxl wasn't shit s3

[next mesa]

They had no realistic chance of competing for a title

Nenne was trash

Hotba Mano didn't work

SBB was getting washed

Anamo started to be really shit

s4 jjonak and flora were the only standouts

[earnest leaf]

Peak ans was uncontested

[next mesa]

fits would like a word

thats a tough question though

[earnest leaf]

Ans carried shock all season long

Literally 1v6ed the 2nd best team in NA at one point that year

Also for those stats ans didn't have to do as much

He doesn't have to deadlift when his team are on their best heroes besides the tanks

[next mesa]

nah shock was collectively better

striker rascal was sometimes a thing

[next mesa]

true, u could argue choi sig

shock was on their best heroes except hog

[earnest leaf]

Choi is a nut on both but I think his dva is slightly better

[noble nexus]

Didn’t Choi retire?

[next mesa]

talking about s3

[noble nexus]

I know I know but I’m just asking

[next mesa]

ohh yea

[noble nexus]

I think I blocked the memory of reading the retirement tweet out of my mind due to the trauma it causes me

[willow tartan]

peak jjonak

[mortal abyss]

Troo

Peak alarm

Aswell

[noble nexus]

Peak Viol2t

Cass GOD

[willow tartan]

but NYXL was by far the most dominant relative to their period

didnt they only lose like 7 games or something?

34-6

[earnest leaf]

Peak viol2t swapped to bapt to counter profit pharah

in a dive comp

and it worked

[gusty rampart]

I agree with this

[next mesa]

Nah

I think Shanghai this year

Is nyxl s1 if they just won gf

[willow tartan]

Well that's post season though

[tropic herald]

shanghai couldve been 14-2 but they decided they didnt want to

thats dominance

[willow tartan]

I suppose they could've gunned for a third stage title.

[devout path]

Imagine losing to a bunch of one tricks

Dumb Shanghai

[hot onyx]

Finally a good take

[willow tartan]

Still not as good as jjonak

https://clips.twitch.tv/EnjoyableAmazonianDolphinChefFrank

[next mesa]

Fate rein pog

[fallen turret]

wtf

[sullen berry]

Taking the clutch into his own hands except you are zen and Fate OP

[gusty rampart]

Fate has been like on 4 teams

Notice how they all did good

[tropic herald]

forget s2 valiant

[next mesa]

haha guys imagine april fools blizzard drops overwatch 2 with 6v6, 15 new heroes and 10 new maps

https://tenor.com/view/jinny-jinnytty-yyjbelievers-copium-copege-gif-21437383

[forest raven]

At this point I have exhausted all of my copium supplies

I'm sitting back watching the trainwreck completely unsedated

[shadow dagger]

petition to create emote named TOOMUCHCOPIUM

[next mesa]

yeah we need the supercoium one

i forgot

i posted it once here

[forest raven]

[next mesa]

YEYEYE

[somber latch]

all of my copium is out, reality is setting in, blizzard is in a hell storm, overwatch 1 is going to die and it wont go ftp, ow2 is most likely going to be a cyberpunk situation at this rate(dissapointing after so many delays), owl will drop viewership because it makes no sense to have the pros play a game the viewers cant play.

[next mesa]

i hope they change this dogshit

after literally every prominent figure in the community complained about it

[willow tartan]

no they only listen to me

[tropic herald]

i think given the previous cards of ow2 the owl s5 plan was fine

but now seems like yea

just stay on ow1

[earnest leaf]

Too far along to go back to ow1

most rosters have probably been nearly finished with 5v5 in mind

[somber latch]

owl is a mess

i remember someone saying that its important to practice in ranked as well for owl

so the gameplay isnt even peak ow2

[tropic herald]

really really how much different were rosters gonna be either way, like, just thinking about it

you think glads roster would be any different? fuel? shanghai? shock?

[earnest leaf]

Glads/shd/fuel weren't changing much regardless

90% of those rosters were re-signed for the next year immediatly

[tropic herald]

yea

i just dont think any roster would have ended up being that different than it is now whether or not they knew it was supposed to be on ow2

even teams that blew it up like florida

[earnest leaf]

Priorities in signing players might have changed

double FS might not have been so heavily sought out after like they are atm

if we stayed on ow1

[tropic herald]

idk

but also

at this point they should just put owl on ow1 again

if they have some heroes to give us cool

[earnest leaf]

eh I say just keep going with the plan

We still really don't know fuck all about when ow2 comes out

[willow tartan]

Keep going with the plan

[earnest leaf]

For all we know we get a beta in the summer

[willow tartan]

^^^

If its good enough for esports its good enough for ranked

[earnest leaf]

iirc ow1 got a beta a decent amount of time before the full release

[willow tartan]

My pred/hopium is that they focused on pvp so much so they could promote it in owl and shit

and the delay is to get pve set up

[tiny pollen]

can I have some copium please

[willow tartan]

Hopium naturally runs through my veins

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1456151453991641090

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, former X-10 VALORANT player and highly rated Overwatch youngster Patiphan “Patiphan” Chaiwong, is expected to be playing in the Overwatch League next season.

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 6:48 AM

So he went from OW, to Valorant, and is coming back to OW?

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1456156965290364931

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

Ah fuck it who am I kidding.

According to multiple sources Patiphan is joining the Los Angeles Gladiators

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 7:10 AM

[noble nexus]

Lmfao

fuckitpatiphan

[plush grail]

Ow2 never

[forest raven]

https://twitter.com/seouldynasty/status/1456184450564255744?s=21

Seoul Dynasty 🐯 (@SeoulDynasty)

[ Coaching Staff Update: @bonggoose, @MMAinEsports, @ow_yangtobi, @WizardHyeong ]

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 9:00 AM

FUCKING

WIZARDHYEONG

WHAT

[hot onyx]

Compium

[next mesa]

PATIPHAN PATIPHAN PATIPHAN

Patiphan will full start over kevster pog

[surreal marlin]

Where can i ask for comp carries in ow

[trim shadow]

december 2023

[raw ermine]

I am still confused why Patiphan would return to OWL

but its great

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/yiskaout/status/1456191789744992257?s=21

Yiska (@YiskaOut)

Okay Vancouver Titans, I like what you're cooking over there!

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 9:29 AM

[raw ermine]

according to liquipedia, 5 years ago today OWL was announced at blizzcon
🥳

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/swertesijustin/status/1454105444234907648?s=21

Justin Hughes (@SwerteSiJustin)

#LetsGetThisBread(?) https://t.co/1t24MImLVx

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 29, 2021, 3:18 PM

[trail perch]

Who is patiphan am I dumb?

Ive been watching pro ow forever

and i have no idea who the fuck that is

[raw ermine]

player from pacific region

cracked dps

flex dps

played w/ muze

really young

retired to play valorant cause of age

but seems to be returning

[next mesa]

He made a big run in gauntlet

His doom is nasty

Also seoul, wtf why did u bring wizardhyeong

No jfeel what the fuck

[north relic]

Did he just turn 18 or smth

[raw ermine]

in september

[hot onyx]

Not a head coach and not IMT so don’t complain

[barren quest]

Seoul getting IMT would be a very Seoul thing to do

[balmy wolf]

Sans

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-no-sign-of-intelligent-life-dumb-toy-story-gif-11489315

[worn falcon]

Wizardhyeong is gud

Peak nyxl coach

Never left Seoul

[last nimbus]

kevster permabench s5

😔

[hot onyx]

According to multiple sources, the Florida Mayhem have signed flex dps Joe “Fatass” Mama.

[trail perch]

hot take

old shock players wont be sucessful on teams not the shock because of their "winnable" mentality

[hot onyx]

hot take: beancurd

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1456297303124361221

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, current Bobby Wasabi and Maryville Esports Tank player Nick “False” Wiseman will be joining the Vancouver Titans for 2022

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 4:28 PM

[tropic herald]

Super surprised

Also new Dallas signing soon

[static pond]

Oh rascal

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/spitfire/status/1456306385067683840?s=21

London Spitfire (@Spitfire)

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain 😈

From inaugural season foe to ally,
Now landing: Welcome to London @poko! #AcesHigh

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 5:04 PM

[static pond]

Big

Lol they really announced it right after rascal got announced for Dallas

[next mesa]

Yoooo

False getting picked up

so pog

Best western contenders ot

Let's goooo

[balmy wolf]

coach rascal

what

[next mesa]

Holy shit tadcalyalso pretty pog

Oooo poko

[static pond]

At least it assistant coach

[next mesa]

Glad he found a team

[tawdry hamlet]

Yoo poko 💀

Shame it wasn't Paris tho lmaoo

https://youtu.be/BhsdE7T-IlE

[hot onyx]

Time for another jersey

[tawdry hamlet]

Which team was rumored to get mirror again

I don't remember

[hot onyx]

Mayhem iirc

[tawdry hamlet]

Hmm

Mirror feels like such a London signing lmao

[hot onyx]

Oh yeah and this happened https://twitter.com/dallasfuel/status/1456305249010917396?s=21

Dallas Fuel (@DallasFuel)

a 2 time overwatch league champion. a new role. a new beginning. 🏆

returning to us in dallas as an assistant coach, it's @Rascal!

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

[static pond]

Lol

I don't think that really a big win for Dallas

[tawdry hamlet]

Yayy rascal

Hadi Poko tankline 💀 god London is going to suck so much dick lmaoo

The support line is going to make or break London

[mortal cipher]

also german French tank duo lol

massa to london???

[tawdry hamlet]

Masaa is the most ideal out there rn I think

[noble nexus]

100%

masaa is actually good

[mortal cipher]

yeah im thinking massa to london for sure

yeah

this was an insane pick tho

[noble nexus]

for London's standards yeah

Poko isn't terrible

[mortal cipher]

yeah i mean a major improvment than last year

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't see the dps line punching very high or the tankline, so these supports better be at least above average lmaoo

[mortal cipher]

yeah massa and who else

i think theyd need a third dps tho

[noble nexus]

also rascal can finally teach sp9rk1e mei

[tawdry hamlet]

Pls don't give us a total meme like Ansoonjae or something London I'll cry

[mortal cipher]

i doubt it

[tawdry hamlet]

Backbone is third dps

[mortal cipher]

wot does he play

[noble nexus]

are they not signing prov1de?

[tawdry hamlet]

Ew I forgot about that lmao

[merry tinsel]

London is def the second worst team na

[mortal cipher]

does he play wot sparkr and shax dont

[noble nexus]

lmfao

[tawdry hamlet]

They sound like a contenders roster 💀

[noble nexus]

prolly because that's the level of play they'll be at

[mortal cipher]

now we have to wait on the support line

whos a good eu support player not signed besides massa

[tawdry hamlet]

Hey guys were getting the gang back together for November contenders! Introducing (meme name)
Hadi
Poko
Sparkr
Shax
backbone
Prov1de
Masaa

[mortal cipher]

[tawdry hamlet]

Now all they need to do is resign hybrid 😎

They'll be goated

[mortal cipher]

would they tho

[tawdry hamlet]

He's so good in double sniper guys 😔 you just didn't see it smh

[hot onyx]

Imagine being the SMC BH and Falcons players and seeing someone like Prov1de take your potential spot in OWL

[tawdry hamlet]

Trueing

Imagine being helv and being so close but yet so far from owl

Imagine being lullsish and getting visa fucked then proving yourself over and over in tier 2 to try and get your visa fucked spot back and you don't 💀

Absolutely rolled

Imagine being lullsish when Hadi gets resigned kek

[hot onyx]

Hadi and Daan

[mortal cipher]

imagine being French and you go to a British team

[hot onyx]

Imagine being Korean and you go to a European NA or Chinese team

[mortal cipher]

lol

[tawdry hamlet]

As far as Chinese teams go they've always had Koreans but a Korean on an eu team must be weird af

[mortal cipher]

yeah i mean thats half of na teams tho

[plush grail]

POKO

TO LONDON

FUCK OFF

[cedar oasis]

rip seoul

[hot onyx]

Who?

[cedar oasis]

philly boi

[plush grail]

a god

[cedar oasis]

who was s1 nyxl head coach

[tropic herald]

I actually like the Dallas move

[worn falcon]

rascal learning

under rush

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1456318037863325700?t=4fPaITxEHqGjv9SGNidwZw&s=09

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, Niclas “sHockWave” Jensen is returning home as the former Philadelphia Fusion DPS has rejoined the Vancouver Titans

Likes

180

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 5:50 PM

[raw ermine]

owo

[tropic herald]

Iron + Shockwave + Aztac hmmm

Not bad

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/FLMayhem/status/1456320343128350727?t=7PEQvAnHb9ILFbqrCliaPw&s=19

Florida Mayhem (@FLMayhem)

"There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle, or to be the mirror that reflects it..."

Welcome to Florida, @MirroR_ow! https://t.co/8xipMLJhgx

Likes

132

▶ Play video

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 6:00 PM

[sullen berry]

Exact pose but with a Spitfire jersey

[tawdry hamlet]

false and shockwave

[earnest leaf]

So they are trying

False iirc is top tier ot wise in NA contenders

[mortal cipher]

i think

[vagrant cargo]

masaa aspire titans

watch

[tiny pollen]

london goated this year

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1456326611507294215

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

https://t.co/aG5GOmkPHU

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 6:24 PM

[hot onyx]

Outlaws

[tiny pollen]

vancouver

[plush grail]

who the fuck is that

adam??

[balmy wolf]

aspire u dumbass

[devout path]

Titans are trying this season?

Interesting

[twin bloom]

Its titans

[twin bloom]

He was 2nd best

But the best has 4 kids to taks care of sadly

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1456333084215988231

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, former Toronto Defiant DPS Luka “Aspire” Rolovic, is supposedly expected to sign with the Vancouver Titans

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

cockwave aspire

[stuck radish]

there goes 90% of their player budget

la valiant players incoming

[trim shadow]

this is so many levels of wrong

poko the french

going to a british team

[trim shadow]

well look where it brought you right back to me

[tiny pollen]

shockwave to houston wouldve been really good

[raw ermine]

*asspire
damn thats gonna be a good dps line tho

[next mesa]

Who?

Coluge has kids?

[hot onyx]

1 out of 6 isn’t too bad

[trim shadow]

im@so@fucking disappointed

shockwave didnt goto atlanta

[hot onyx]

Atlanta literally has Kai

[tacit skiff]

Poko is gonna need to deadlift Hadi

still can't believe Hadi coming back is real

[hot onyx]

He managed to deadlift Sado and Fragi to two finals in S1

[trim shadow]

kai shockwave venom nero

absolute overkill

no flatlineing in championship games

[tacit skiff]

Shockwave confirmed?

[trim shadow]

but then again

i dont trust brad with a huge roster anymore

[hot onyx]

Depends how much you trust Halos word

[tacit skiff]

I'm iffy on Halo

I don't think Atlanta would say they "locked in their roster" on Twitter if they were just gonna add someone new a week later lmao

Besides, I don't really think hitscans will be as relevant in ow2, I expect more Tracer + Sombra

He was right about Nero, but Nero was so predictable

[hot onyx]

Nero gets a new offer that’s so good he doesn’t want to pass it up

Nero to Dragons

[plush grail]

wait

shockwave aspire

is kinda good

not even kinda good

like legit really good

[hot onyx]

Better than anything Paris could afford last year

[plush grail]

i mean

naga onigod

kinda better

[trim shadow]

but was w a s t e d

[next mesa]

nah

glister naga on the other hand

eh

still no

[earnest leaf]

hard to compare those two dps lines tbh

both are super flexible

But I think I would still take Glister/Naga

[vagrant cargo]

titans New mt is actually solid

[next mesa]

who that

[tropic herald]

Juice

[vagrant cargo]

yes

[next mesa]

[tropic herald]

Maybe a hint

Something to make me feel something

I need the juice

[next mesa]

[vagrant cargo]

korean MT

[tropic herald]

Jjanggu

[next mesa]

👀

[hot onyx]

Silvercoin

[vagrant cargo]

yes

[hot onyx]

hype

[balmy wolf]

S9mm announcement tommorow

[jagged viper]

same here kinda but what’s your reasoning

i mean they did go to grand finals

[trim shadow]

That year they fielded a 13 man decent roster and they got slapped around and players like fire never got a chance

[next mesa]

which year

[tiny pollen]

s3

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean most owl b squads were irrelevant it's just how it is sadge

[devout path]

I mean

[tawdry hamlet]

Like just because they had a ton of players it doesn't mean they were good players, they had saucy pokpo Kodak fire frd on the bench

[devout path]

If you agree to join a large roster

You know you should expect to fight for your life for a position

[tawdry hamlet]

Valiant had b squad issues too with apply and gig and how they didn't really fit in the roster

[twin bloom]

Saucy and frd goated players

Just bad luck

Tragix

[cedar oasis]

um goated

defanitly not

[twin bloom]

Saucy would have been really good if he had a proper shot

[cedar oasis]

he did

and he sucked

[twin bloom]

He had like 3 games

Calm down

[cedar oasis]

mad cuz bad

[tawdry hamlet]

https://youtu.be/8CAYT07pHBo

[next mesa]

b teams did work in s2 for atlanta though

reign was so good because they can consistently scrim against atl academy, who were also really good

[tawdry hamlet]

Reign got carried by a c9

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/sen_ebooks/status/1456378850405851137?s=20

sen 森 (@sen_ebooks)

this is your fault @super_OW

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 9:52 PM

[tiny pollen]

I would pay

[raw ermine]

Lmfao wtf

[tawdry hamlet]

So basically if titans rumors of false aspire shockwave are true

I think they're better than mayhem 😎

Preds for S5, Seoul and Mayhem suck, Boston is absolutely mid, justice tank and Shanghai retains title 😎

[devout path]

Seoul won’t suck

Istg

[willow tartan]

no way seoul suck

they have tobi as a coach

instant power up

Nah but for realsies though, if seoul flop again its just hopeless at that point, get a new franchise

[tawdry hamlet]

I get hella s4 philly vibes from that roster

[earnest leaf]

nah the only worry about seoul is the coaching and FS

everything else is solid

[willow tartan]

you think they will be embroiled into visa issues?

all their players are korean arent they

unless someone like smurf is america citizenship now

[sullen berry]

"Nepotism doesn't work in esports"

4 years later

[trim shadow]

also worked for seoul@against majority of the leauge besides what shock and another team

[trim shadow]

Kodak fire is such a meme backline and i rlly wanted to see if they would sink or swim together

[forest raven]

https://twitter.com/shartcandy/status/1456433864046366732?s=21

aiden (@ShartCandy)

watch ur fucking q's

Twitter · Nov 5, 2021, 1:31 AM

Legendary

[willow drum]

wtf

[tropic herald]

who is tommy again

[stuck radish]

nero

[tropic herald]

thats what i thought

sick

[hot onyx]

Finally someone who is not high on Seoul

[forest raven]

God I love shartcandy

[tawdry hamlet]

they made a career by being themselves i dig it

they are pure content machines when they talk in chat

we love shartcandy

[tawdry hamlet]

and yeah im not high on seoul or mayhem

I wouldn't be high on Toronto but they signed muze and not just hotba thankfully

I am pretty high on glads I think, assuming the american tankline doesn't bite them

since you know muze is probably better than reiner

[gusty rampart]

ShartCandy and Nero

Wow

Nero getting carried

[hot onyx]

I think Glads could’ve signed a worse AT rep for OWL

Like imagine UV replacing Shu

Or Hydron replacing Birdring

[tawdry hamlet]

the glads only weakness is if Ans isn't able to play at his peak again or if reiner space drag the team down otherwise they are literally rock solid

a dedicated sombra couldn't hurt tho

[hot onyx]

EQO is FA

[tawdry hamlet]

Titans with false shockwave aspire unironically sound like a good base if they do it

could be a s4 paris like team

[hot onyx]

Hot take but if we’re considering rumours as facts Titans look stronger than Mayhem

[tawdry hamlet]

false shockwave aspire vs checkmate mirror hydron sirmajed

hmm

[hot onyx]

And Aztac

On Titans

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean they are hard to compare because shockwave and aspire got way way more playtime but false hydron are also like the same amount of contenders success

so they are mostly equal

and then majed vs aztac is a mystery

[hot onyx]

Aztac was robbed last season

[tawdry hamlet]

shockwave aspire > checkmate mirror
false aztac < hydron majed

[hot onyx]

Man was one of the best contenders flex supports and he gets benched for the funny “sex big dick” fellow

[tawdry hamlet]

Lastro when he doesn't have the McGravy buff

[hot onyx]

Lastro to Mayhem then

[noble nexus]

Lastro to Titans to bench Aztac again :)

[hot onyx]

Aztac proceeds to bench False

[noble nexus]

the best timeline

[hot onyx]

He will get playtime one way or another

[noble nexus]

also patiphan ans kevster dps line is fucking insaneeeeeeeee

[hot onyx]

Patiwhowhat?

[noble nexus]

the slander

[hot onyx]

Not as good as Avillos so idc

[noble nexus]

fuck you

it's a shame glads had to handicap themselves and sign a dogshit MS tho

cuz realistically tf even is funnyastro?

[hot onyx]

Skewed slander

[noble nexus]

who is skewed lmao

ohhhh

the brig otp

[hot onyx]

British main support formerly played for Atlanta Academy Atlanta Reign Philadelphia Fusion and Fusion University

[noble nexus]

doesn't ring any bells

[hot onyx]

The McCree superstar vs 4th Dimension in Contenders EU trials

[noble nexus]

ohhh he's a dps player???

[hot onyx]

Yes but he plays main support so that his opponents have a chance at winning

And he still manages to counter a pharmercy as lucio

Good pickup

[noble nexus]

disagree

skewed better

[twin bloom]

Hydron and majed are the only good players on mayhem

Every player on titans will be good

[hot onyx]

At mercy but not brig and lucio

[hot onyx]

That’s a funny way to spell “Someone”

[twin bloom]

Someone might be the worst player on the roster

Both FLA tanks

Are not that good

Checkmate also isn't that good either

Mirror is decent but isn't a starter level dps

Imo

[hot onyx]

Better than symm tracer two trick Hydron

[twin bloom]

Tracer might be hydrons worst hero

He is better on hard HS

He was essentially a widow one trick that learned tracer

Lol

[hot onyx]

I’ve seen his hard hs and if he’s supposed to be the top hs that na has to offer nuke the region

[twin bloom]

Which game did hydron play hard hs and play bad?

Really show me?

[dull kraken]

That’s an interesting take lol

[hot onyx]

“Which game did Hydron play hard hs?” is a question that gives the same answer

[dull kraken]

Hydron is a monster on Cree and hanzo, good widow, decent tracer

Widow is hard to know because so many good widows in owl but he’s a good hitscan

[hot onyx]

Man got taken to his limit by SparkR and whoever it is that plays hs for Uprising Acad

It’s a British Hurricane debacle

[dull kraken]

Sparkr is a really good hitscan, and wasn’t that a specifically tracer duel? That match was legit ages ago

[hot onyx]

Decent player with some mechanical skill dominates weaker region

I just think he’s hard overrated

Be fun if I was proven wrong but I don’t think I will and I believe he’s gonna flop when faced with a tougher challenge than what he’s capable of handling

[next mesa]

Hydron is not a 2 trick bro wym

[twin bloom]

Hydron obliterated sparkr lmao

What do you mean

[next mesa]

Hydron is so good

[twin bloom]

BH vs AT was one of the hardest dps gaps

Ever

[next mesa]

Only time he got tracer diffed was vs venom

[twin bloom]

Lmao

[fallen turret]

Mayhem signed four tank players in a game where there’s 1 tank

[hot onyx]

So hard that it went to a map 7

[next mesa]

Why did it go ti map 7 anyway

Sus

[twin bloom]

Ping

[earnest leaf]

iirc they only lost maps on EU servers

[twin bloom]

Yeah

Eu team won eu server

[earnest leaf]

but still ended up winning two eu server matches in a row

[twin bloom]

Na team won NA server

[hot onyx]

Because AT are at an equal level to BH and BH flopped in OWL

[next mesa]

Someone was really good on geng but on team cc he was pretty dog

Adam has been pretty dog

[tropic herald]

bh also went from dannedd sparkr

to

blase hybrid

[dull kraken]

Why are y’all talking about a match a year ago - even if Hydron overrated don’t take opinions from something that long ago

[tropic herald]

oh you are here too

small world

[next mesa]

Real spilo?

[dull kraken]

No fake

[forest raven]

Oh real spilo

[next mesa]

Sheeeeeesh

🙏🙏🙏

[hot onyx]

Spilwho?

[dull kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-rock-johnson-eyebrow-gif-21770780

[next mesa]

Wait spilo

[forest raven]

[next mesa]

You are on spitfire right

[dull kraken]

Aye

[next mesa]

Or I'm trippin

[earnest leaf]

think he was announced staying pretty early

[next mesa]

You know maybe Hadi will be monster tank on 5v5

[tropic herald]

i think hadi will have a redemption

[hot onyx]

Maybe one more year of 6v6 so that the delay doesn’t cuck the playerbase and T2

[earnest leaf]

Won't happen

league is full committed on 5v5 at this point

[forest raven]

Watching blizzard fumble overwatch at every possible step in the most spectacular way

[hot onyx]

Yeah but why

[next mesa]

When did overwatch ever admit that they were wrong

If they did they would remove brig in the first 2 months of her release

[forest raven]

They never say they're wrong, but they admit it when they make changes to the game

1 hero limit

[hot onyx]

It’s an unfinished game that the viewers will have to wait over a year to play and that T2 players do not have access to

[forest raven]

Getting rid of coin flip

Role lock

[worn falcon]

enable total mayhem in 5v5

fun ensues

[hot onyx]

Replace Keller

[earnest leaf]

If you remove aaron keller we aren't getting ow2 till 2030

they've had enough leadership shit change around

[hot onyx]

Yeah but total mayhem

[worn falcon]

yeh, many higher ups leaving, except the VP and other super higher ups

[hot onyx]

Like, the early build isn’t even gonna have all characters and maps available

[next mesa]

Bro just let me be CEO

I overwork their fuckin workers pay them 400k a year and ow2 will be out by next April w 20 new heroes and 15 new maps

[worn falcon]

bobby saying he gonna have the lowest bonus

but doing nothing up here

[next mesa]

Fucking bobby dude

[hot onyx]

Fuck Bobby

[forest raven]

Lizard man

Eat the rich

[hot onyx]

All my homies hate Bobby

[tropic herald]

we may have disagreements but we all agree fuck bobby 🤝

[forest raven]

:handhsake

[hot onyx]

:shadnahke

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/changsik/status/1456314982920953863?s=21

ChangSik (@changsik)

@Liberot99 he still alive

Likes

537

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 5:38 PM

libero's soul left

[forest raven]

[hot onyx]

[worldly flax]

coach rascal let's gooooo

[next mesa]

havent seen u around in a fat while

unless im trippin

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/LiquipediaOW/status/1456275050428919808

Liquipedia Overwatch (@LiquipediaOW)

This day in Overwatch History:

Overwatch World Cup 2017 is won by Team South Korea! 🇰🇷

📋https://t.co/Q92REE8Wsw

Likes

263

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 3:00 PM

[forest raven]

God the reverse sweep against Australia

[somber latch]

im not familiar with world cup formats

but can someone tell me why korea won against US 4-2 but everyone else won with 3 wins (besides gf and 3rd place match)

[forest raven]

It was a really fucky tie system. They tied on Hanamura and both team got a point after the stream was over

For some reason

[somber latch]

ah

[willow tartan]

which is worse? 4-2 or 3-1

[plush grail]

libero is not dead!! https://twitter.com/changsik/status/1456314982920953863?s=21

ChangSik (@changsik)

@Liberot99 he still alive

Likes

589

Twitter · Nov 4, 2021, 5:38 PM

[forest raven]

Yo avast is makin big moves

[vagrant cargo]

real

[idle beacon]

hey. now that ow2 has been postboned to whatever date, are we gonna see another ow1 season next year?

[north relic]

No

[hollow bough]

I think OW2L is set in stone

[hot onyx]

Idk

Assuming OWL starts in april again it’s definitely not too late to go back

And with OW2 having a minimum delay to 2023 playing OWL on the OW2 early build does so much more harm than good

Because the viewers are going to get tired of watching a game that they can’t play for another year or more

The T2 scene is gonna get left in the dust since they’ll be stuck on OW1 and the OW2L teams won’t want to pick up players without experience in OW2

[willow tartan]

ow2 2023 release

[hot onyx]

All while OW1 is being left to rot, potentially for multiple years while OW2 is developed for god knows how long

[willow tartan]

beta will come sooner

[hot onyx]

And the OW2 early build doesn’t even have all the characters available

Or maps

[willow tartan]

wait that was confirmed?

[hot onyx]

It was said during the playtest that quite a lot of characters were still in development for being reworked

[willow tartan]

yeah, for the playtest, not for the ow2l server

[hot onyx]

So like assuming orisa and sigma are getting reworked

And the new characters aren’t finished

[willow tartan]

like the ow1 beta was 6 months long

so im guessing we will see something similar for ow2

since the owl season is 6 months long

[hot onyx]

Memeicus

Just because it’s a new game with a long beta that needs work

Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to make the pros play it for a living yet

And you’re saying this under the assumption that there will be an open beta

[willow tartan]

its not that

I just don't see a world where blizzard backtracks on this

it would make 0 sense

[hot onyx]

Contenders

The viewer base

Explain how OW2L would have a positive impact on T2

[willow tartan]

it wouldnt affect t2 at all

cause its gonna be an open beta

[trim shadow]

z u n b a

[willow tartan]

no fucking shot they run ow2l without having an open beta run alongside it

[trim shadow]

dont question blizzard it is a absolute giga brain move to stop developing ow1 in pursuit of a ow2 game that will probably be stuck in development hel

[next mesa]

Test

[north relic]

You underestimate them

[hot onyx]

It’s very much a possibility

They haven’t said anything about an open beta

[plush grail]

PLAY TF2

[hot onyx]

Remember when the Justice beat Paris?

[plush grail]

@hot onyx this u??

why the fuck is it flipped

[hot onyx]

Dammit Luigi why do you have to leak my new magnetic ceiling?

[plush grail]

i dont know why it flipped lmao

i copied the image in our dms

nice one discord

sans how does it feel knowing poko joined london

[hot onyx]

It feels good knowing that he found a new team that wasn’t the Paris Eternal so he can actually win

[tropic herald]

Kalios Paris

[plush grail]

paris needs 1 more player

it could legit be anyone

[hot onyx]

SBB zarya and hog

[plush grail]

prolly still beats poko hog

[hot onyx]

Prolly still beats your hog

[plush grail]

i play a good hog

[hot onyx]

You play “girlfriend simulator” and make out she’s real

[plush grail]

its okay one day i will match you and jack together

[noble nexus]

Pretty weird idkkkk

[hot onyx]

Pretty hot idkkkk

[forest raven]

Who is that

[noble nexus]

that's Sans

he has some weird obsession with sending that pic

Kinda weird idkkkkkk

[forest raven]

Oh

Doxing yourself pepe laugh

[hot onyx]

At least I didn’t leak my address or else that would be a disaster

[forest raven]

AAATAAAGATGCTAGGCT

[noble nexus]

actual neanderthal

[mortal abyss]

Did you just dox his DNA

[forest raven]

I'll do it again

[hot onyx]

#esports-discussion showing up to my house

[sullen berry]

Finally a picture I can see correctly from the southern hemisphere

[sullen berry]

High school JonTron

[sullen berry]

I've already booked flights to come over for christmas

Libero could honestly live well off Thanks to his crypto venture

If he wasnt retweeting stuff to try and make folks invest on Twitter, then Libero would be moving into a bachelor pad where his personal harem/maids serve him Korean BBQ on demand

[north relic]

Is that a Minecraft Crew

[hot onyx]

Awesome, can’t wait

[hot onyx]

Team Crafted to be precise yes

[north relic]

I thought I recognized most of the faces

[raw ermine]

oh shit now that I look at that

yeah those are old MC youtubers

[hot onyx]

SkyDoesMinecraft Deadlox TrueMU BajanCanadian JeromeASF HuskyMudKipz and SSundee

[raw ermine]

I knew i recognized the guy 2nd from the left

yeah

[north relic]

Husky died right

[raw ermine]

nah the far left dude is bajan

[hot onyx]

Last posted vid was 4 months ago so unless it was very recently idk

[hot onyx]

Thanks I didn’t know my IP until now, truly a modern saint with this information

[raw ermine]

husky didn't die, he just retired, from what I can gather

[north relic]

I remember someone dying

[raw ermine]

all i remember was bajan posting a YT video titled "my channel is dead" so idk

[north relic]

Bashur that’s I remember

[north relic]

Didn’t he post some Fortnite video and died for a year

[raw ermine]

idk I haven't watch any of their videos since before the 20s

[hot onyx]

I remember one of Sky’s friends getting arrested and imprisoned for possession of ||deez nuts||

Idk if that counts as a “death” though

Death to all his potential careers

[north relic]

2cp?

[hot onyx]

Capture point

[north relic]

golly I hate two capture points

[tropic herald]

🤒

Lets not talk about that 👍

[hot onyx]

Agreed 👍

esports amirite

[noble nexus]

holy fuck Sans you're so weird

typical philly fan 🙄

[hot onyx]

Holy fuck Jack you’re so judgemental of factual statements such as Alarm > Shu

[noble nexus]

not even close to being true

where's your stage title??

HUH????

[hot onyx]

Typical Glads fan 🙄

[noble nexus]

🙄 🙄

[tropic herald]

Cool story but Izayaki > all

[hot onyx]

In Europe with half the team for half the season

[noble nexus]

they wouldn't have been good with their full roster anyways

dw

[hot onyx]

That’s true

Put Mano on the Dragons and they’d be lucky to make top 5

They’ll get ‘em next year 👍

[noble nexus]

Mano on Dragons would be better than Fate on Dragons

Mano best tank ever

[north relic]

I’m a mano simp and I wouldn’t admit that

[tropic herald]

[noble nexus]

if Mano had a real support line he would've had a better season

that's all I'm saying

[north relic]

true true

[hot onyx]

Sado had a real support line

Looked like a top 3 mt as well

[noble nexus]

and was good

[hot onyx]

Where’s Mano excuse

[noble nexus]

but Mano > Sado

[north relic]

Wdym lastro ansoonjae bad

[noble nexus]

Lastro said sex big dick that one time

he's insane

great player

[hot onyx]

Sado looked better with LanSoonJae than Mano with Alarm Astro

[devout path]

Sex

Big dick

[noble nexus]

Dig Bick

[hot onyx]

Bex

[noble nexus]

Bicks

[hot onyx]

Dig sick

[tropic herald]

Because Sado is good

[noble nexus]

Sig

[tropic herald]

Wait

[devout path]

Bex sig dick

[tropic herald]

Sado to Vancouver

I’m smart

[north relic]

Sado Aztac tank line insane

[noble nexus]

Sado to London

[hot onyx]

No Sado back to Fusion

[devout path]

Sado to sado

[tropic herald]

imo Sado is gonna be OP for OW2 if it still happens

[north relic]

Fusion aren’t doing anything this off-season

[hot onyx]

Tell that to MN3 Zest and Void

[north relic]

Ah shit man I forgot void