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plush grail
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gonna shit myself if he announces he's joining some random contendies team

trail perch
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hydron cracked

plush grail
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what if he's baiting with the lag logo

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and its lav

trail perch
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Almost def not going glads

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im guessing houston or florida

gusty rampart
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It won't be LAV

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My guess is FLM

next mesa
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Florida

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Maybe

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Buy s9mm isn't going to Florida for sure

twin bloom
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He can play in echo tracer comps

tropic herald
gusty rampart
noble nexus
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yeah so did like another 4 people here

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FLM was the only real option

tropic herald
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provide

fallen turret
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We’re running out of hitscans

devout path
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Diem

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Who picks up diem

tropic herald
next mesa
raw ermine
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redemption arc

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hell yeah

next mesa
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LET'S GOO

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Sadge uv hydron and Reiner seperated

twin bloom
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Sadge false robbed

next mesa
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Sadge

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Adam looked like poop on uprising academy

twin bloom
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I mean

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Full kr team

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And on 300 ping

balmy wolf
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hey

tropic herald
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mayhem kinda looking like a sleeper good roster

raw ermine
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hello

balmy wolf
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hey

raw ermine
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yeah they might be like paris last year

tropic herald
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i have more faith in this roster than i did with paris's

balmy wolf
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hey what is your guys favorite charater in overwatch

raw ermine
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ana

mortal abyss
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Ana

balmy wolf
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dva

balmy wolf
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hey

gusty rampart
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I could kinda see YZNSA joining a team

gusty rampart
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Question

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How was Mayhem not top tier last year

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Literally had Fate, Yaki, BQB, GNJ, and Gargoyle

devout path
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They were really good

hot onyx
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Dang Florida going budget

gusty rampart
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Eh

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Not really

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Getting some good NA players

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Hydron is a good start

vagrant cargo
hot onyx
vagrant cargo
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how

hot onyx
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S3 Defiant had better pieces than SirMajed

twin bloom
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You really chose sirmajed

hot onyx
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Perhaps I misphrased myself

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I meant to say that as if SirMajed is currently the best player Mayhem has to offer

raw ermine
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ok yalls ready for london news?

twin bloom
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Ready for people to be salty that provide got signed

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Lmao

hot onyx
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“The Florida Mayhem announce the signing of main tank Beast”

raw ermine
raw ermine
willow tartan
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????

willow drum
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lmaooo

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shock

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smm

somber latch
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cet

worldly flax
raw ermine
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somber latch
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eh?

gusty rampart
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There's actually no wau

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I refuse to believe

noble nexus
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That’s a fall from grace if true

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Also I believe the wording of that post is horrible

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And it was just that one of the London coaches really likes moth and is preparing to give him an offer

gusty rampart
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Hopefully he doesn't accept

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Like go to Shock or a better NA team

twin bloom
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Pressing x to doubt

jagged viper
gusty rampart
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Could work but I think Outlaws is going for a more Korean team

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Still mixed but more Korean players

noble nexus
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Moth played as the only NA player on shock for a long time so I mean it would work out

earnest leaf
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Or he just retires who knows

noble nexus
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In the lineup anyways

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I hope not

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He deserves a better final season

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Than being benched by a FS

next mesa
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Hydron Checkmate Someone Sirmajed

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Mirror

earnest leaf
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Hydron is one of the highest rated NA hitscans

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Sirmajed is also very highly rated in EU contenders iirc

tawdry hamlet
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It really sounds like s4 Houston at best or mid city

earnest leaf
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well no shit lol

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I would be amazed if the roster could be top tier

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but I wouldn't be surprised if they punch upwards

tawdry hamlet
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I mean s3 Houston was also overrated af they blew dozens of easy wins

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S4

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Not s3

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S4 Houston always felt so close but so far 😭

earnest leaf
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s4 houston fell into the trap of forcing the same comp

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they tried to be a dive team

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when they had only one good tracer

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and one good sombra

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who was the same player

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also the support/tank musical chairs

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basically shock's problems but with a worse roster

tawdry hamlet
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Dreamer was puzzling, Joobi Jake is abysmal main support line, and their comp choices were so weird sometimes

earnest leaf
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I'm really curious to the reasonings why jjanggu got benched

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He was pretty solid

fallen turret
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Outlaws were super up and down

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They played rein rush pretty well in mm, they underperformed in jj when they fielded dreamer

next mesa
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this florida mayhem team ideally could be s3 valiant

earnest leaf
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pretty much yea

next mesa
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dps line that really pounds, good support line, tank that does their job well

fallen turret
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They looked good when they beat shock and someone else in ss playing 6 rectangle meta but then lost to Boston and Dallas

earnest leaf
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I said it before

tawdry hamlet
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An overachieving mid team, s3 valiant LETSFUCKINGGO

earnest leaf
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the peak of houston's season was beating shock twice

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Outside of those wins they did literally nothing worthwhile

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remember when all they had to do to make qualifiers was win a map

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and proceeded to go 0-6

tawdry hamlet
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Peak Houston was losing to Boston pharah comp and busting 96 percent of brackets

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Or no I meant losing while playing pharah

earnest leaf
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It sucks they got 0 value out of their third dps for the most part

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houston imo would have done so much better with a seperate dedicated tracer or sombra player if they wanted to force dive

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Happy on tracer/sombra was looking like ans on those two

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah happy not having an ideal Sombra or tracer was unfortunate

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Also remember when leave had to play Sombra? It felt like his Sombra suckeddd

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Ans didn't look too bad on Sombra last year but he was playing with the best team in the world at the time lmao

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Fits is what ans Sombra could've been 😭

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Fits is unironically still so fucking good

next mesa
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shut the fuck up

tawdry hamlet
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Lowkey

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Fits>carpe

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I said what I said 😎

gusty rampart
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NYXL will be mid tier

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Maybe above

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Kellan and Yaki are good picks

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Myunbong pretty good as well

twin bloom
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You guys want a spicy take

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Titans>>>

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Fla

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Next season

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Titans will be very stacked for next season

earnest leaf
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hm depends on who they aim for

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they going for a blase type team? or maybe they do shit like pick up moth

gusty rampart
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Pick up Onigod

tawdry hamlet
worn falcon
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Vancouver being a Valiant type team

willow tartan
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No way we get a repeat of valiant in 2022 right?

gusty rampart
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They're appearently not going budget

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X to doubt but maybe a win?

willow tartan
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I mean besides that, teams are literally building rosters for a game that's not out yet.

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No way you manage to accidentally pick up the 5 worst players in esports.

fallen turret
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Is Paris the only team for sure going budget again?

somber latch
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i dont think glister is a low budget player

worn falcon
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Glister didn't went for monies to Paris

sullen berry
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But whatever gave you the notion Paris are going "budget" again?

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I mean the whole point of these orgs doing what they do is to generate a return on what they're spending

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Read: Valiant, Spitz, and last year's NYXL Roster

fallen turret
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They said the org told them they could choose four players to retain and to get rid of one coach bc budget

gusty rampart
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NYXL was major budget roster

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In 2021

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I don't know if I trust Spitfire to be good

sullen berry
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JJonak's salary was so huge they had to make a full roster with the other 10%

gusty rampart
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Lol

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True

sullen berry
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JJonak's salary was so huge they had to make a full roster with the other 0.5% left over

gusty rampart
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I mean Flora, Gwangboong, and Kalios we're good pickups

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Just the rest was mediocre or below average

sullen berry
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Kalios was a very late pickup that had more potential with Yakpung together instead of bianca as their brand player

gusty rampart
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Their biggest W was a 5 map series win against the Dragons winning by a C9

sullen berry
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during June Jouse qualifiers they beat Philly on Volskaya with another C9

gusty rampart
willow tartan
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their biggest W was making june joust over philly bc fusion got full held by valiant

somber latch
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i want to see mer1t get signed

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someone please sign merit

trail perch
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Idk why he got benched

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His brig was prob the most improved in the league

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By the Summer Showdown he was a really good brig

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Just watch outlaws vs Shock and you can see him fuck

vagrant cargo
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joobi was shit on everything but lucio

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and his lucio was as average as it gets

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He just existed

hot onyx
devout path
balmy wolf
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my team is cool

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very much chad

next mesa
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Fourth place NA inc

raw ermine
balmy wolf
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yeah wouldnt be that bad after glads dallas and shock

balmy wolf
plush grail
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u

balmy wolf
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yeah i do look like a chad

little tusk
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@plush grail are u staying a paris fan even with a diff roster?

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ngl can't be a paris fan without my boy onigod

plush grail
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i gotta agree losing onigod HURTS

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but I became a paris fan for Daan and he's still there

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also I still gotta support naga + daan + kaan + dridro

little tusk
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ngl naga and kaan are great as well so def still supporting them

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hope someone picks onigod up

plush grail
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i hope he can find a team

plush grail
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but i feel like the current paris roster is super underrated

little tusk
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They got glister now wonder how he'll do

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Heard he was eager to join paris as well

plush grail
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yeah he really liked the environment

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and believed jmac was a really good coach

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which is ofcourse amazing to hear

raw ermine
sullen berry
worn falcon
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Ew provide

raw ermine
next mesa
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Uh

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Okay

tiny pollen
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w

last nimbus
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letsgo, more boston drama!

worn falcon
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People still salty for what mcd said?

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God

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But, Uprising have crimzo?

somber latch
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Again

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Double flex support is prob meta

willow tartan
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and mcd is better than crimzo

last nimbus
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im interested in the big main supports rn

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fdgod, moth, jecse

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all not signed

next mesa
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That's cool 🤔

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mcd is pretty good

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Really salty?

hot onyx
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Boring idc about the guy who can’t be toxic without bringing ethnicity into the flaming

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Show me Aspire or sHockWave to Outlaws

twin bloom
worn falcon
noble nexus
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Announcing backbone in half an hour ig

hot onyx
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Naw

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Gonna be Hades or Lullsish

twin bloom
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Its helv

noble nexus
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Nah it’s moth

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Source: Trust me bro

twin bloom
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London will be bad

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Really bad

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Lol

noble nexus
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They can’t get much worse than last season

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So they have that going for them

plush grail
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shut up jack

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nobody asked u anything

noble nexus
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Stfu you ape

plush grail
plush grail
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glads fan

noble nexus
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Nah I’m a Paris fan

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:)

plush grail
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even worse

noble nexus
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😔

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Sucks that your team had to get one of my favourite players

plush grail
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glister

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?

twin bloom
noble nexus
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Ya

twin bloom
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Cause hadi>helv

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And lulsish

plush grail
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im pretty sure london will be decent this year

twin bloom
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Or whatever

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Eu mt

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They get

plush grail
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london will have a decent roster but will still be shit compared to every other team

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even some bottom tier teams like paris look solid

noble nexus
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I mean in ow2 they can atleast get deadlifted by their dps even harder

plush grail
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shut up jack

noble nexus
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Honestly shut the fuck up

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Why do you even talk here

twin bloom
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Titans have a stacked roster on paper but might be bad compared to everyone else

noble nexus
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You never say anything intelligent

twin bloom
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London are just bad

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Lol

plush grail
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isnt titans empty rn???

twin bloom
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No leak but its stacked

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Trust

plush grail
plush grail
twin bloom
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Ok

noble nexus
plush grail
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still cringe how titans spent big bucks first season and then never cared anymore

noble nexus
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Bonobo

noble nexus
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Original

plush grail
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very original

noble nexus
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Incredibly original

plush grail
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my jokes are almost as bad as season 5 boston

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NO FUCKING WAY boston manages to win anything

noble nexus
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I don’t think Boston are gonna be that bad

plush grail
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they have striker but like

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what else do they have

noble nexus
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Valentine could be pretty good

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Faith Crimzo Mcd not bad

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And Marve1 isn’t awful

plush grail
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best player behind striker is prolly crimzo

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which is kinda yikes

noble nexus
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I think last season shown Crimzo still has a pretty high ceiling

plush grail
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im willing to bet boston ends up sucking

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and striker retires at the end

noble nexus
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I’m not willing to bet cuz idgaf about Boston

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But their roster doesn’t look bad

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It depends what the other bottom tier teams end up doing

plush grail
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titans finally pick up a good roster this year right???

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RIGHT???

noble nexus
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I hope not

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Titans org deserves to suck for eternity

plush grail
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titans hate outdated

noble nexus
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Not to me

plush grail
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it was 2 years ago jack

noble nexus
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Time is a social construct

plush grail
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who???

plush grail
gusty rampart
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Whomegalul

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They going to give any info about roles or something

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Flex DPS appearently

plush grail
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flex dps

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and the best teams he played on were sheer cold and oblivione

balmy wolf
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I’m getting ratioed on Twitter for asking who he was

gusty rampart
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So no ChipSa goaOMEGALUL

tawdry hamlet
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Adam or provide being announced soon like 😈

vagrant cargo
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backbone was mad talented when i regulary watched tier 2

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idk if hes still at that level

plush grail
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kinda odd pickup

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i guess london is just gonna try some more random EU contenders players

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last bunch didn't work

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maybe this new group will work

raw ermine
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cringe

plush grail
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u

raw ermine
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twomegalul

vagrant cargo
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yeah idk abt that

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seems like Paris stay the Kings of europe 🤷

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glister > entire London roster

plush grail
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wait how does glister play tho

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is paris finally getting a team house

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or is glister playing from korea

noble nexus
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London fans don't exist anyways

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and if they did then they won't after the prov1de signing

plush grail
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why

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is he that bad?

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or bad history?

tropic herald
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Maybe Paris has home base in NA or maybe they have one in EU

gusty rampart
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In NA this year I believe

vagrant cargo
plush grail
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massive W

noble nexus
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I'd hope so

plush grail
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kaan on low ping??

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kinda nutty

noble nexus
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Glister on a starting position on a team with potential???

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kinda nutty

plush grail
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crazy how glister went from shock to paris

tiny pollen
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london worst team this year aside from internal issues causing stuff

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calling it rn

merry tinsel
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So far next season looks really competitive but the titans look like a cut above the rest

mortal cipher
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titans are the only team with nei player besides valiant even tho those arent offical

cedar oasis
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seoul looks great

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ignore the coaching

worn falcon
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you can't ignore tobi coaching

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he gonna become the coachplayer tobi

cedar oasis
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tobi for best coach

last nimbus
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why does it look like london spitfire owe owl like 3 million so they have 10k budget for every player

hot onyx
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“Yeah guys London are going to sign EQO Vestola and FDGod they won’t be a budget team this year”

trail perch
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backbone i think is a diamond in the rough

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every time ive watched him play ive been impressed

sullen berry
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Dang well that's something worth keeping an eye on, SparkR backbone duo

next mesa
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Who's backbone

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Also tobi either coty or flop

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No in between

twin bloom
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Someone better than eqo

next mesa
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Which team was he on

tropic herald
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backbone was on bobby wasabi most recently iirc

twin bloom
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He was sheercold falcons

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And some na team

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Altiora?

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I think

tropic herald
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oh

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i knew he was on a na team i just couldnt remember whihc

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altiora sounds right

next mesa
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based

raw ermine
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What Dafran says actually is semi interesting

tawdry hamlet
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I've heard backbone isn't that bad

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Or I might be thinking of white noise

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Two word names got me confused

mortal cipher
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fr

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two word names be comfusing

next mesa
tawdry hamlet
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The comments 💀

raw ermine
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first provide now coluge, maybe he'll have his time in 2 years lul

next mesa
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coluge is like

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top 2 NA OT fa

tawdry hamlet
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Danteh could've worded his tweet way better lmao

noble nexus
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People are well within their rights to not forgive prov1de for that shit or support him or london

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lmao

tawdry hamlet
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But imo the only player currently "owed" a second chance in all of ow is Adam

noble nexus
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facts yo

earnest leaf
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That daco stuff was known iirc

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That he was supremely toxic and fucked things over

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Think avast said it this past season

tawdry hamlet
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Adam got checked so hard lmao and the fact he hasn't had much contenders success since getting cucked is a fat rip

sullen berry
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man, dafran could have offered up so much if it wasn't an outside of game communcation barrier with him

tropic herald
tropic herald
hot onyx
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Wait Prov1de is rumoured to Spitfire?

earnest leaf
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I wonder what implications this has for owl

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surely they don't go back on their decision to play owl on ow2 right?

next mesa
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😭

hot onyx
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If it does then a delay is much better than forcing people to professionally play an unfinished game for a living

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And it means that the OW2 developers care enough about the game to release as perfect of a finished product as possible

trim shadow
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its been what basically a year of delays at this point

hot onyx
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I prefer this alternative over the game being an unfinished mess

next mesa
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yeah remember all that hype on

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cyberpunk

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and they just fucked it

hot onyx
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^^

next mesa
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game needs to be good from the start to build momentum

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or else no matter how hype you will just flop on your fuckin face

trim shadow
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unfortunately the weight on overwatch’s shoulders is heavy and they will have to be absolutely perfect on release

tiny pollen
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ow2 doesnt exist

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i refuse to believe it does

next mesa
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literally the first playthrough is the most important

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if the first time u play its shit

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u just wont return

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simple

tiny pollen
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ow2 isnt coming out next year

raw ermine
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Oh ffs

trim shadow
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your franchises?

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they are litterally putting owl on Lifesupport

tropic herald
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hey guys

tiny pollen
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there will be no contenders or open divison

tropic herald
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also i dont know why anyone should be surprised ow2 will be released late

noble nexus
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^

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I'd rather that

deft valley
tiny pollen
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game release equal money

hot onyx
deft valley
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yes
it's not saying "not next year" though, just "not all of the revenue will be next year"

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so late 22 still falls within that timeframe

hot onyx
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OW fans are gonna get tired of watching cool new game without playing new game

trim shadow
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i guess this is some reverse psychology by saying hey look how the game looks you should get hype

next mesa
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thats actually weird asf

hot onyx
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But then they’ll see everything the game has to offer with the pros and next to nothing would new

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Especially since the release is delayed

next mesa
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what the fuck

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is going on

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blizzard

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just sell the game IP you fucking bitch

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literally

trim shadow
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absolutely amazing timing

tiny pollen
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sell it to korean gov

trim shadow
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blizzard is in shambles UY99_codm_kek

deft valley
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well that didn't last long lmao

trim shadow
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mann this game will be a mess

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yeaa at this point the writing was on the wall when jeff left

tiny pollen
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what game?

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there is no game

trim shadow
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its just actual copium at this point

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ow2 2022
ow2 2023
ow2 2024

tiny pollen
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ow2030

next mesa
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remember when we thought o2 2021 was gonna happen

hot onyx
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OW2 2077

next mesa
tiny pollen
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i cant read chinese what does that say

balmy wolf
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activision as well ofc

trim shadow
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this just harpers back to activision killed blizzard and every franchise went with it

tropic herald
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activision and blizzard both had parts in this

tiny pollen
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they should sell ow

tropic herald
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apparently its really hard to not harass women

balmy wolf
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just go watch porn jfc

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i wish some actual arrests would happen

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but nooo money talks

deft valley
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well the lawsuit is still in early stages

balmy wolf
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i see

deft valley
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apparently the delays are because of leadership changes

next mesa
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just hire esports discussion team

deft valley
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since Jeff left and Diablo's director was the real Jesse McCree

next mesa
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ill be head of balancing obviously

deft valley
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party magician for overwatch head writer 2021

balmy wolf
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im down

trim shadow
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shit ill take care of character development

tiny pollen
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i call lead skin development

balmy wolf
deft valley
tiny pollen
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installing league rn

next mesa
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so we're gonna watch an entire year of pro play... in a game that we're literally never gonna play for at least a year

#

..

deft valley
balmy wolf
#

i wonder how OWL teams themselves feel about this

#

I wouldnt want to beta test a fuckin game lmao

tiny pollen
#

every team is going to go budget now

trim shadow
#

man i have never been so@proud of sinking 100’s hours into paladins

#

we are guranteed 4 characters a year of each role pepe

earnest leaf
#

I'm calling bs on a no 2022 release date tbh

#

i would expect a full release around summer or full of 2022

#

at absolute worst early winter

tropic herald
#

Thread

next mesa
#

yea its confirmed no 2022 release

earnest leaf
#

Confirmed fully by blizzard

#

"we will not be releasing Ow2 in 2022"

#

?

tropic herald
#

I’d like to once again remind you all that large portions of the ow team are currently on boycott

next mesa
#

no by the journalist that reported on the news

earnest leaf
#

yes I saw that

tropic herald
#

The ow team is quite literally not working right now

earnest leaf
#

Have not heard anything about that

next mesa
tropic herald
earnest leaf
#

yea i'm gonna take that with a grain of salt

#

I can't find a single piece on ow dev team simply not working

next mesa
#

its only natural that unstable leadership causes pauses or just big delay in game production

earnest leaf
#

An entire development team not working is not something that is going to be private for long

tropic herald
#

There may be people working but the amount has lowered enough due to boycotting that progress on the game May as well be 0

plush grail
#

wtf is happening

#

is the game being delayed even more

tropic herald
#

Yes

earnest leaf
#

So OW devs are boycotting on working on the game?

plush grail
tropic herald
#

Not necessarily the game but just boycotting blizzard in general

plush grail
#

wait but owl is still gonna be on ow2???

earnest leaf
#

yes

plush grail
#

its either gonna be a mess

#

or a super dumbed down version

tropic herald
#

You gotta remember

#

PvP in OW2 Is really just a giant balance patch so it wouldn’t be too terribly difficult to make happen

next mesa
#

literally if they just changed the whole model

#

like change the monetization system first

plush grail
#

this ^^

#

just make the pvp changes go live asap in ow1

tropic herald
#

Make ow f2p and put it on the new engine

plush grail
#

add the pve content later behind like a $10/20 paywall

#

at this point tf2

#

a fuckin 14 year old game

#

gets more updates

digital cloud
#

The fuck, delaying ow 2 more?

#

Is blizzard even gonna have money by the time they get it out

earnest leaf
#

Also I wonder

#

Maybe they release the pvp earlier

#

and the pve is what takes even longer

#

strong copium, but maybe

digital cloud
#

Guess that guy saying it wasn’t gonna release was right

balmy wolf
#

only decent game ive seen at this point is Hearthstone

digital cloud
#

God wow players rn are even madder than ow fans, and we haven’t had real new content for like two years

#

Goes to show how bad blizzard fucked up wow

balmy wolf
#

aside from dumdum deathmatch map

earnest leaf
#

Last hero release was over a year ago

#

last comp map release was more than 2 years ago

#

and it was havana

#

and the one before that was paris, which is not even in comp anymore

digital cloud
#

And hearthstone is a shit show too, basically just an rng simulator

balmy wolf
#

wtf paris was THAT recent? i thought it was a launch map

#

Blizzard really does fucking suck

#

my god

digital cloud
#

This is why I am moving to valorant at this point

next mesa
#

are you new

balmy wolf
#

why are these idiots in charge of 5v5 when they barely got 6v6 finally working

digital cloud
#

At least riot actually does shit

next mesa
#

smh grike im joining u

#

✊ 😔

digital cloud
#

Has blizzard really just been coasting for this long?

#

Like, you aren’t fucking valve

#

You actually need to add shit and make new games

balmy wolf
#

This delay reminds me of HALF LIFE 3

next mesa
#

their model actually just dont make them enough money

#

thats what ppl need to realize

#

they cant continue ow1

#

like at this stage

#

they needed like a complete revamp

#

thats y ow2 was announced

#

but it was announced way 2 early tbh

earnest leaf
#

just got cucked by multiple things

#

covid of course, then jeff leaving, then the lawsuits

#

jeff really left at the perfect time

tropic herald
#

big game dev moment

digital cloud
#

Well Valorant I guess is still a bit not super great

#

But lol still gets a huge amount of stuff

#

And Valorant I guess is a work in progress, idk, have to see

#

I would say riot currently has the better track record but we’ll see how that pans out

balmy wolf
#

why do 5v5 tho

#

do they think it's more fun?

digital cloud
#

Dps queue times

#

Probably other reasons in their heads

#

But dps queue times

#

Remove one of the lowest played roles, free up a bit of the bottle neck

#

More pew pew for the dps

#

Seriously though, what is blizzard doing, their games are barely worked on from our point of view but they have thousands of employees

#

And ow has been neglected for years now for ow2

#

And they still aren’t really even close to ready

next mesa
#

@earnest leaf

earnest leaf
#

I'm just gonna wait

next mesa
#

rant w samito and flats

#

very good

next mesa
#

If overwatch 2 isn't coming out until 2023 what the heck version of the game is OWL playing next year.

Did everyone get baited into 5 player rosters or are they playing a league on an unreleased beta for a full season that nobody else can practice or learn on

Thinking emoji

Likes

111

tawdry hamlet
#

Wait so Daco being a dick is the reason dogman got promoted to owl?

willow tartan
#

no shot ow2 doesnt come out next year

tawdry hamlet
#

My lunch break is over in 3 minutes 😭

#

I want to look at owl news

willow tartan
#

maybe not a full release but like

#

there will be a playable game next year

next mesa
#

overwatch is in an absolute terrible spot..

trail perch
#

this twas already sent but i feel the urge to change our convo away from this

willow tartan
#

nice.

#

more talent around striker the better

trim shadow
willow tartan
#

wow is the only thing funding blizzard actually

trim shadow
#

which shouldnt be the case with ow diablo and starcraft

#

uk blizz wouldve been rolling in money if they didnt kill hots

digital cloud
#

Could have had that sweet sweet league tier money

hot onyx
willow tartan
#

The fact that people think it's been delayed for a year.

balmy wolf
#

i wonder if the pve part of ow2 is done but the pvp section is still underdevelopment thats taking the time?

next mesa
#

The idea

willow tartan
#

And it would make sense from a development standpoint. Make the campaign around the PvP system, not make it then have it be changed halfway cause pvp got changed.

balmy wolf
#

im huffing some extreme hopium but maybe the pvp of ow2 will be released during owl but then pve gets released next year

willow tartan
#

Pvp beta will be released next year for sure. If it's good enough for a competitive league to play on it it's good enough to be played by shitters in ranked.

hot onyx
#

Memeicus

#

You overestimate the intellect of Blizzard

willow tartan
#

No.

#

Mr. Wilkinson said that OW could do the Valorant method and drop beta keys for ow2 in OWL streams and I really like that idea.

#

for pvp shit

#

It doesn't seem unreasonable at all to believe some form of playable ow2 comes out alongside OWL

hot onyx
#

That is debatable

willow tartan
#

why?

#

If it's stable enough for an esport to be played on it then it's good.

hot onyx
#

Well it depends on how much content is available in the beta

#

And how many betas are released before the full game

#

And how long OWL2 goes on for until the full game is released

#

And the playability of OW2 for next season with the potential bugs and unfinished characters

#

And the whole debate as to wether 5v5 is going to benefit or crush the game in the long term

hot onyx
devout path
#

if they pick up mcd im literally not going to support them no matter what

willow tartan
#

God is with us.

devout path
#

shut up

balmy wolf
#

Luigi sucks

noble nexus
#

Mcd might be better than Myunbong but atleast Myunbong is a better person than mcd

balmy wolf
#

Paris bad

#

Also

#

OW dead

#

Rip

#

Blizzard gaming

tropic herald
#

the issue is

somber latch
#

owleague is gonna die

tropic herald
#

gamers have a tendacy to be bad people

noble nexus
#

Well as of right now mcd is the bigger prick then

gusty rampart
#

I suggest coming to Seoul

#

We're a growing family

devout path
#

im already seoul fan

gusty rampart
#

Full time

devout path
#

more like jjonak smurf profit fan

gusty rampart
#

JJoNakFan69

willow tartan
#

no you cant be a seoul fan.

#

there'll be too many

balmy wolf
#

LESSGO

#

FUSION

#

FUSWIN

#

WOOOOOOOO

devout path
#

i just love jjonak

willow tartan
#

lets gooooo!!!

balmy wolf
#

in all seriousness ive like

#

heard nothing from Fusion at all

#

are they gonna be good for ow2

willow tartan
#

they ahve carpe and alarm

gusty rampart
#

MN3

willow tartan
#

MN3 is their new sign

balmy wolf
#

I wish I recognized these names ugh

willow tartan
#

scream at the top of the lungs every time mn3 hits a shot

balmy wolf
#

i wanna be part of the 2022 scene

willow tartan
#

he's a hitscan player

balmy wolf
#

oooh hitscan

#

sombra or ashe or BUST

#

ill allow a soldier too

#

😳

gusty rampart
earnest leaf
#

locations hmmm

tropic herald
#

LAN?

#

LETS GOOOOO

willow tartan
#

Homestands pogu

rapid plinth
#

check my channel out?

noble nexus
#

no :))))))))

rapid plinth
#

damn 😭

#

i tried

trim shadow
#

well homestands is one way to make the next season interesting

gusty rampart
#

This picture goes hard, feel free to screenshot

hot onyx
noble nexus
#

again

hot onyx
#

again

gusty rampart
#

again

devout path
noble nexus
tawdry hamlet
#

While I personally can understand exactly why coluge is blacklisted, at the same time

#

If MCD Krystal Fuckin dafran and provide all got chances then like

#

Wtf 💀

#

If provide and mcd make owl s5 and Adam and coluge don't that'll be such a meme

gusty rampart
#

What did Krystal do

#

Sorry don't know much of the controversy of the OWL

tawdry hamlet
#

He did a Lil trolling

gusty rampart
#

Troll lol

tawdry hamlet
#

It is really unfortunate for coluge he chose to grind his way to the top after he did all that husk

#

Such a waste 💀

earnest leaf
#

krystal was a chad

noble nexus
#

prick*

earnest leaf
#

dafran was just a normal toxic shitter pre-owl

#

committing wage theft to smash your gf is chad behavior

noble nexus
#

The only player that's entitled to a second chance at owl is Adam

twin bloom
#

No ones entitled to OWL

#

Lol

noble nexus
#

I mean considering he grinded the worst region of OW got his chance and then lost it to immortals

#

he is in my eyes

twin bloom
#

Yeah tragic

noble nexus
#

honestly entitled is the wrong word but my brains fried so I'm not correcting it with a better word

#

lmao

twin bloom
#

You can use the same argument for coluge who grinded to top but was let go because of things he did in the past and apologised for

#

But no one think he's entitled

#

To owl

#

Lol

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean getting signed but then getting cut with no notice it's like Lowkey like you literally had the spot idk

#

It's sadge

#

I don't think Adam is that good even I just think he signed a contract so like he should at least have something 😭

twin bloom
#

Titans prolly would have beaten justice in their first owl game

#

If coluge didn't get cut 15 hours

#

Earlier

tawdry hamlet
#

Immortals should complete their villain arc and sign all the blacklist players

twin bloom
#

Whose even blacklisted now

#

Lol

#

Provides in owl

#

According to halo

tawdry hamlet
#

Hmm

twin bloom
#

Its iust coluge

#

Unless you know

#

They sign dreamkazper

#

Lmao

tawdry hamlet
#

Why did gig make owl

earnest leaf
#

Mouffin is probably blacklisted

tawdry hamlet
#

Also moud

twin bloom
#

Oh yeah mouffin to valiant

tawdry hamlet
#

Is officially blacklisted to the point they don't even let him compete in contenders

twin bloom
#

Make it happen

sullen berry
tawdry hamlet
#

Krystal to charge 😈

noble nexus
#

the only way to make your fans hate you even more is to sign mouffin if you're valiant

sullen berry
#

Academy team then was alright

#

Krystal come back, maybethis time we'll promote you from bench warmer promise bro

tawdry hamlet
#

Who are other players with pasta

#

Pasts husk

#

What was the Ripa glads suspension stuff about

sullen berry
#

Knowing you michael

noble nexus
#

Super has italian descent he probably has pasta

sullen berry
#

I think you can look up anybode in the past 4 years and find something spicy

#

Ripa was toxic enough to warrant a fine, apparently

#

Just your typical Finnish gamer

twin bloom
#

He got suspended for 5 games

#

Longer than boosters

#

Lmao

sullen berry
#

And Taimou was fined for using a slur on his personal Twitch stream during the mid-season break

tawdry hamlet
#

S2 when like half the league got fined for boosting

noble nexus
#

honestly you could make a top 3 team just out of players that've been fined or suspended for boosting

#

literally everyone has boosted at some point

tawdry hamlet
#

Who's a toxic main support I can't think of any besides like streamers

twin bloom
#

I'll make one rn

sullen berry
#

Linkzr and two others Finnish players who made it to owl but can't recall that didn't fall to any suspensions for any of that were just sensible, had better PMA in game or have a gf

twin bloom
#

Gator sado coluge tankline

tawdry hamlet
#

The boosting empire

#

Sheesh

twin bloom
#

Bqb

#

Proper

#

Happy dps

#

Funnyastro viol2t supports

tawdry hamlet
#

The idea of funnyastro hopping on someone's account to play McCree to boost them is so amusing

gusty rampart
#

BQB boosted?

earnest leaf
#

I would assume a strong majority of owl players boosted at some point

gusty rampart
#

LMAO he did

#

I'm pretty sure Space still does

earnest leaf
#

nah I doubt players do it while in the league

gusty rampart
#

The boosting rule isn't fair

#

Like Dalton needs to be banned for carrying the League

noble nexus
#

Space unintentionally boosts his teammates on ranked that guy is a menace on the ladder

tropic herald
willow tartan
#

They go to collegiate instead.

tawdry hamlet
#

Contenders prize pool share if they do the absolute best in the region is like a month of a min wage job lmao so it's like if people will pay you and you get to play your game of course you'd boost

twin bloom
gusty rampart
#

I love how people compare this stuff to real life crimes

earnest leaf
#

It is in South Korea lol

tawdry hamlet
#

Why is lastro so overrated

earnest leaf
#

He was actually good in s3

#

idk why he regressed so hard

tropic herald
#

super said he said void was good pre s3

#

and i had to check

#

he did

#

real respects real

tropic herald
#

also

#

sbd

trim shadow
#

im kinda salty right now that atlanta’s baseball team won a championship

#

and the reign flatlined

stuck radish
#

atlanta's baseball team did not have to fight the Shanghai Dragons

tropic herald
#

oh nooo what if next season of owl was 6v6 and I was able to play 6v6 one time before ow2 that would suck soooo muchhh 😞😢 please ahhaha dont do that i would HATE it so muchhhhh like grrrr like i would start barking if tbat happened out of anger and disappointment 😞😢😢😢😢😢😢

Likes

563

noble nexus
#

My tank player 🙏

plush grail
past spoke
#

so boring that game is just released in 2023+ now

#

makes no sense and p2p is kinda fucked from that too now

willow tartan
#

you are from future?

north relic
hot onyx
somber latch
#

wat dat

raw ermine
#

path to pro

past spoke
#

path to pro

#

open division/contenders

#

theyre gonna be playing ow1 while owl is on ow2 build

#

so the main group of people who get picked up for owl are going to have minimal to no experience in ow2 gameplay

north relic
past spoke
#

which makes it so like

#

only ppl who play owl this upcoming season on ow2 build will have like experience playignt he game at all

#

and there will be negative new talent

#

in season after

#

cuz theyre all practicing on ow1 if thehre not owl

#

plus the only ow2 practice owl players will have is just owl scrim

#

they will have to play ranked ina completely differently balanced game

#

and they cant even scrim t2 anymore lol

#

just such a stupid fucking company idk how detached blizz can be from reality to think "This is a great idea "

#

a dog would be more competent in balancing the game and publishing updates than anyone on the dev team or in a position of leadership

past spoke
#

that the game is coming out at earliest in 2023

north relic
#

Honestly I would just move on from overwatch and play a different game until ow2 is released

past spoke
#

the thing is tho i cant cuz im on a scholarship

#

for my college

#

to play the game

north relic
#

What

past spoke
#

so i just have to play this shit

#

so boring

north relic
#

Scholarship to play overwatch?

past spoke
#

yes

#

that is where a majority of NA/some of EU ow contenders went

#

to collegiate on fullride scholarships

#

so they can study and also have a chance to get picked up for owl

#

like reiner is on ISU redbirds rn

#

jst got picked for glads

#

like ultraviolet got picked up from isu -> reign

#

and joobi from harrisburg to outlaws last season

#

theyre all (or used to be prior to owl pickup) on fullride

#

so theres a large group of people who cant really drop the game for the sake of their (in my school's case 70k) scholarship

#

so we r all kinda forced now to live with these shitty changes in the system and hope the game doesnt die so we can afford school in the US

#

bc also a majority of the players who are playing on a fullride contract for collegiate can not afford the uni without crazy loans anyways so its like a blessing

#

idk im rambling im just pissed

plush grail
#

Can we just stop discussing owl and become a clash royale esports chat

somber latch
#

im more of a pong esports guy myself

plush grail
trim shadow
#

unfortunately the scene isnt out there or that much better then contenders

hot onyx
past spoke
#

yea im doomer rn honestly

#

carter just made a good tweet ab it

#

and its true like ow p2p does not give a shit

#

he signed up as my friends grandpa

#

to play in contenders

#

u can do anything no one will listen to an NDA Lol

willow tartan
#

What collegiate team you play on? I'm gonna watch homecoming group stages.

past spoke
#

scad

#

i play on b team rn cuz ima do socials but our main roster is nice

#

Should finish top 32

#

Schiz Gao Alone Valentine Cabimas Snappe

#

we r doing okay

#

we have to beat maryville tho this weekend

#

but its winnable

#

we almost beat northwood

willow tartan
#

A different valentine?

past spoke
#

Not korean

#

The one who

#

um

#

Yeaaa

#

actually@gonna delete that. but he is known for some not great things he did

#

not great is a big understatement

hot onyx
#

Fair

willow tartan
#

I've never heard about that.

hot onyx
#

On a scale of cmc to edp how bad?

#

If it’s alright of me to ask

past spoke
#

U can definitely find it on owtmz

#

LOL

#

I mean ill link

#

its not private

#

it was very public

#

i think my university failed the Background check challenge

#

essentially

#

Dreamkazper moment

trim shadow
#

its strange how overwatch has a franchising system but almost none of the teams have academy's anymore like leauge or have any interest and t2 is mostly run by starter up teams friends and some local orgs

#

dont know how this is a succesful fucking system cause t2 is still chugging despite no support by bliz and
no effort by orgs to support t2 since hell its just london cause philly doesnt even run by its academy name anymore and i dont even know if we count chengdu since there academy is chineese and they have a monopoly on cn conteners any way

#

leauge may be a shitty game but at least every inch and nook is covered and has structure and order by region and by the rules of the region

hot onyx
#

I guess Bilibili = HZS academy Chaser = CDH academy UP Academy = GZC academy but most of them disbanded

past spoke
#

i think carter means

#

no one will get picked up from@contenders 2023

#

because they have no ow2 exp

#

there is an INSANE t2 to owl

#

transition this season

#

so many players

#

na eu and kr

#

so if u mean no one is interested in contenders players thats straight CAP

#

but outside of that the interest in t2 is like

#

so dry

#

in terms of like

#

making the scene livable

hot onyx
#

I think they mean no one is going to be interested in Contenders players if OWL2022 goes ahead with OW2 white the game is being delayed

past spoke
#

yea^

#

cuz contenders players will have 0 experience

trim shadow
#

i said no one is interested in contenders not saying contenders isnt interesting and there isnt a ridicolus wealth of talent what im talking about is the people who havent been playing overwatch since they were 16 players outside looking thinking about joining or trying to get in

#

its just what gonna be the waiting list of the current 100-200 deep contenders roster right now

past spoke
#

ohh yea

#

wait

#

am i crazy or did blizz say no more contenders until ow2

#

anyways

#

like wasnt last szn the last ow1 szn

#

they said

#

no way HAHAHAH

#

I forgot

hot onyx
#

They claimed it was

#

And it’d be pretty embarrassing to go one more year of OW1 after hyping up OW2 on multiple OWL broadcasts

#

But admitting to making a mistake is better than going along with a project that will inevitably fail and cost multiple people their careers

trim shadow
#

not like switching to 5v5 1 tank is already nuking careers left right and center

past spoke
#

😭😭😭

past spoke
#

ppl putting faith into the devs to balance each tank

#

for 5v5