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tawdry hamlet
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:((((

vagrant cargo
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yeah mano ok philly was mid af

tawdry hamlet
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Philly about to pick up jecse kek

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if jecse goes to another team who is he going to though

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hmm

vagrant cargo
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like the MTs that individualy Dominate on heros like rein etc are always Set up by their team

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daily a korean leaker said jecse retires

tawdry hamlet
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philly was literally just like where good players go to die because no matter how they do they get made fun of for being philly or lose because they are philly kek

mortal abyss
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I believe in Alarm to make any main tank fusion pickup god tier πŸ™

earnest leaf
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Watching muze's pov literally confirms what I already knew

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his mechanics aren't bad

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just nothing really special

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decent at best

tawdry hamlet
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Peak mechanics are the brig volskaya juggle pov

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That was fucking goated

earnest leaf
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that clip is too good

tawdry hamlet
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One of my favorite clips ever

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Dude man handled that brig

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That and Smurf Lucio juggle πŸ™

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Juggling so jecse couldn't get beat off to win the series 3-1 was peak s4 shock 😍

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Finally working as a unit and owning the top team

earnest leaf
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that pissed me off so much

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Because I knew how good that roster could have been

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But they could never put together top tier performances consistently

tawdry hamlet
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It pissed me off shock could beat top team 3-1 but then struggle against way weaker teams 😭

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They had so much potential on paper

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And showed it sometimes

earnest leaf
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I think peak shock with their s4 roster could beat shd or at least take them to 5 maps and make them sweat

tawdry hamlet
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S4 Shanghai was scary but if it was may or June I think shock could do it

earnest leaf
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definetly

tawdry hamlet
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But afterwards it felt like Shanghai was untouchable

earnest leaf
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later on sombra and ball were just too useful

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And they had the best player for each

tawdry hamlet
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Once they won that neo goats, it was the beginning of the end lmao

earnest leaf
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Kinda like shock in s3 with GF meta

tawdry hamlet
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Everyone else got worse and Shanghai got insanely better 😭

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Like that neo goats comeback followed by pure domination by Shanghai was crazy

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And the Atlanta grand finals where they held a top 2-3 na team at spawn door was nuts

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Like even at top 3 you shouldn't get held at spawn door by number 1 that's just nuts

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But Shanghai did it somehow

earnest leaf
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The issue was shanghai mechanically was extremely good at every role

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No one on that starting lineup had below top tier mechanics

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So they could individually make insane plays

tawdry hamlet
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Hope Atlanta doesn't turn into another Paris where they scrap a top 3 for a run in the mid tier πŸ’€

earnest leaf
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then combine it with super strong coordination

tawdry hamlet
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Can't believe Paris dropped the second best off tank to ever touch the game in s3 😭

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Hanbin my beloved 😍

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I'm excited to see super with a new main support

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See how it works out

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Shock in general are exciting no matter how they do just because they're shock imo

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Like idk how to explain it but they bring me more hype than others even when they're bad lmao

vagrant cargo
vagrant cargo
earnest leaf
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I mainly watched orisa ball povs since I didn't want to dig a bunch

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And His orisa/ball just weren't that special lmao

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he tossed his shield around way too much, messed up grapple too often that got him killed or caused him to miss out on kills

tawdry hamlet
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I could see a mid tier Atlanta if they go more than apac because like high-key no matter how you spin it apac players 99 percent of the time > na players

vagrant cargo
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his orisa pulls were one of the Main reasons glads were so good on doubleashield+he leads almost every stat by a quite large margin

vagrant cargo
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Also considering u watched like what

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10-15 Minutes max

tawdry hamlet
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Shut up bro we all know hydration is the best orisa all time smh

vagrant cargo
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could also be that u watched a bad map from him

earnest leaf
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Do you want me to sit down and watch a few of his matches

tawdry hamlet
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Disrespecting the goat 😭

earnest leaf
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tomorrow

vagrant cargo
vagrant cargo
earnest leaf
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Like it's 5am I don't want to watch 3 hours worth of muze vods to prove what I already know

vagrant cargo
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but saying his mechanics arent great/good is just false

earnest leaf
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I only said they weren't special

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his mechanics are decent

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but not really top tier or great

tawdry hamlet
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Pharah Houston s3 playoffs comp πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€ Danteh recalling off the map, Boston winning and busting like 84 percent of brackets πŸ’€ that was goated

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Hydration was way too goated I'm that series πŸ’€

earnest leaf
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The worst part is they were rolling in scrims on that comp

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but then got dicked by boston lmao

tawdry hamlet
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trollcringe Jerry counter the pharah diff ez πŸ’€

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Idk wtf else could have done it πŸ’€

vagrant cargo
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how is that not special

tawdry hamlet
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Damn sure fusions wasn't diffing anyone

vagrant cargo
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on Winston id only favor mag smurf fearless

tawdry hamlet
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Halo is pepega outside collegiate and Colourhex sucks dick, how tf Boston win that tbh πŸ’€

vagrant cargo
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rein super fearless jjangu ig?

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orisa none

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ball fate ga9a ameng

tawdry hamlet
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You know, Gaga had a good Winston but he didn't get enough chances to show it because Chengdu love ball hero 😍

earnest leaf
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I'd very easily take super/smurf/fate/gator over him on orisa

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My point isn't that muze is bad

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It's mainly that he's just above average

vagrant cargo
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crazy how MuZe hardgapprd gator on orisa when they mirrored

earnest leaf
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he's better than the shitter tanks but isn't beating the best ones

vagrant cargo
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or super

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and smurf orisa maybe but he didnt play her enough

tawdry hamlet
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Gator orisa go crazy

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His pulls and coordination with his team πŸ’ͺ

vagrant cargo
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He literally did several times but okay whatever ur saying πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€

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watch CC shock vs glads qualifier and tell me again super did better on orisa

tawdry hamlet
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Also in going to watch a hadio Winston POV to see if his positioning was as bad as I remember or if team diff

vagrant cargo
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or CC glads vs Atlanta on hawaii

vagrant cargo
tawdry hamlet
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Stage 2 I think was the stage I remember a Nepal map he looked awful

vagrant cargo
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like hadi became dogwater after like june joust

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or msylee

tawdry hamlet
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Stage 1 his rein looked better than daan tbh

vagrant cargo
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maylee*

tawdry hamlet
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At least to me

vagrant cargo
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it did

earnest leaf
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tbf daan is basically a ball otp

tawdry hamlet
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Daan looked like checkmate rein

earnest leaf
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but not even that good at ball

tawdry hamlet
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Just shift to win lmaoo

vagrant cargo
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daan isnr good

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dudes C tier at best

earnest leaf
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idk why they kept him

tawdry hamlet
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Daan rein reminded me of cloudy like super aggressive shatters randomly like a maniac

earnest leaf
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he was consistently the weakest player

tawdry hamlet
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And shift

earnest leaf
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well cloudy was actually good at rein

tawdry hamlet
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Tbh both eu reins in stage one shattered like a dozen times it felt like

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It just felt like Hadi and Daan had shatter after shatter

vagrant cargo
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give Paris a competent MT

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and they would be great

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naga onigod vestola dridro kaan all did rlly good

tawdry hamlet
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Competent eu main tanks off rein rn? πŸ€”πŸ€”

vagrant cargo
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daan inting on CD fucked them over

tawdry hamlet
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Jkaru ig

vagrant cargo
earnest leaf
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lullsish I hear is pretty solid for EU mts

tawdry hamlet
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Lullsish visa jail 😭

earnest leaf
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what if paris said fuck it and just grabbed jjanggu

tawdry hamlet
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Earlier I was thinking of making a visa jail starting lineup with like Lullsish Poko Neptuno etc πŸ’€

vagrant cargo
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i wonder where poko goes

devout path
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Paris

tawdry hamlet
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I can't imagine anywhere besides Paris tbh

vagrant cargo
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cant wait for him to shit the bed

tawdry hamlet
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Vestola left, he's a veteran and we all know Paris values that highly πŸ’€ cough neptuno and he's french

vagrant cargo
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dude has been so overrated

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Also vestola is trialinf again for them

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Check dm

tawdry hamlet
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Can't fucking ever respect Paris org doe zholik 😭

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How could they pick up neptuno grrrr

vagrant cargo
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zholik got cucked so bad

tawdry hamlet
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And then he retired 😭

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So we never got to even see if he was able to transfer it to owl lmao

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Zholik > carcar 😭

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It must have felt like a slap in the face when neptuno took his spot then retired and they didn't even offer him the spot πŸ’€

vagrant cargo
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yeah seit was nasty

tawdry hamlet
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Neptuno in that opening oasis map on Lucio in stage 1 πŸ’€

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Dude looked fucking diamond

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Paris was so fucking bad lmaoo
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vagrant cargo
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LMFAO

tawdry hamlet
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I feel bad for tsuna but he wasn't great when they put him in, granted, he was put in at awkward ass times like a map 5 after not playing all series

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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tsuna is called bad by tons of people

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but my man legit got fucked over so much

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forced to play cree, being put in a map 5 situation a few times

tawdry hamlet
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Tsuna got fucked by Vancouver and Paris by being given shit moments to play because he was decided not as good as his counterparts in Onigod and shockwave

plush grail
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paris should not have picked up a 3rd dps

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but a 2nd tank

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someone who could fill the gaps daan left

tawdry hamlet
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Map 5 Onigod has been good on tracer all series? Quick sub in tsuna πŸ’€

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
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Getamazed good coach btw

plush grail
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holy shit i was MALDING

tawdry hamlet
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Tsuna gets treated like he's blase when he's better than that 😑

plush grail
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did blase even play in ss4

hot onyx
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Huh, American Hadi got signed by Glads

vagrant cargo
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yes and MuZe Toronto

somber latch
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toronto is literaly philly

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change my mind

fallen turret
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Toronto, New York, and philly have a triangle thing going on

gusty rampart
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New York has won stages

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They've gotten top 5 usually always

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Defiant gets gatekept

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Philly had an amazing roster last year but never won when it mattered

final musk
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Philly didn’t have a great tank tbh

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And I cheered for them…

static pond
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I don't think that was the problem

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They didn't have a Sombra or tracer player

hot onyx
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Wdym??

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Carpe sombra EQO tracer top tier

static pond
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Huh?

north relic
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I’ve never seen carpe sombra

hot onyx
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I can find at least 2 showings of Carpe sombra this season

static pond
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Carpe would have been better on tracer if they relay on hit scan to much

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Most teams ran Sombra and tracer imo most teams had better ego tracer and Sombra were ok but rascal was wasted imo carpe needed to focus on improving on Sombra imo

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I think Mano did his job as a tank so did hotba very good duo but the DPS fell short imo they had the players just didn't think the impact of Sombra and tracer was gonna be that big

hot onyx
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We’re all allowed opinions

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But Mano was a problem

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Considering he got mtd’d by Yakpung

final musk
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EQO was amazing

hot onyx
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And inted beyond belief at times on ball

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And pretty much cost them the last map vs Shock

static pond
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He wasn't mtd

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Coaching has problems with meta

hot onyx
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That’s just copium

final musk
static pond
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They were playing Western against top tier dive teams that practice it

hot onyx
static pond
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But I don't think they be able to play apac dive style

final musk
static pond
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They relay on Sombra and tracer to much imo

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Muze played ball?

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And Smurf???

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I saw muze played ball like a few times

hot onyx
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Smurf showed good ball in the past and MuZe played ball during Countdown Cup

final musk
static pond
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But didn't see Smurf

final musk
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Then they went back to building comps around rush and got a bit too confident vs. ATL.

static pond
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I think shock would have done a very good Winston dive

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But they lean a lot on rein and orsia comps

final musk
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Yup

static pond
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static pond
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I think at the end Philly and shock lack adapting and being in sync we saw dragons be in sync so well even with ego Philly fell short lack of flexibility. shock just wast very flexible imo dragons just had everything they showcase they can play mostly every meta with a hit scan like lip who able to cover tracer, Sombra and hit scan then fleta everything else how do you beat that dps duo lol

somber latch
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season 3 was quite flexible

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season 2 needed no flexiblility

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for the majority of the season

static pond
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Uh but they moth didn't they?

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I feel bad for moth not getting play time

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Well not a lot

somber latch
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in s2/3 yeah

somber latch
static pond
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Lol true but he doesn't stream anymore if I remember?

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And has deleted his past streams

somber latch
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retirement?

static pond
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Ya probably

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Also I love JJ in Seoul it looks natural for him

next mesa
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Oh shitttt

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Muze to Toronto

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Huge move for them

static pond
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Wait really???

next mesa
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Yes

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Halo

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Also Smurf and muze has a good ball yes

vagrant cargo
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He didnt know how to utilize all the ressources alarm gave him

static pond
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Toront lol

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And well they didn't practice ball

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Looks like it at least

vagrant cargo
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every team practices comps they are running lol

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scrimms are a thing

static pond
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Like I said look like they were practicing more Western style then apac

vagrant cargo
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and u know that because u got insight into their scrimms ?

static pond
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No but they didn't have a reliable tracer or Sombra besides farpen

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Carpe*

vagrant cargo
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yeaj but that does not undo manos shit ball

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they practiced those comps

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Also shockwave is a tracer Player too

static pond
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That how the ball works every team that had run it mostly ran it with tracer and Sombra

vagrant cargo
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yeah and they couldnt because they Lacked a good ball and a good sombra lol

static pond
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No offense imo carpe tracer was a bit lacking at least what I think

vagrant cargo
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carpe traxer was quite good

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hard to do something w a bad tankline and no other dps

static pond
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Can't put most blame on Mano since they couldn't run a full ball comp

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Tbh I wonder why didn't just go full Korean

vagrant cargo
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and manos decision making etc is just shit on ball

static pond
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They tried but couldn't

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did philly play double shield a lot?

vagrant cargo
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yeah due to them lacking a good ball

static pond
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I don't remember

vagrant cargo
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double shiend was barely played in apac i think

static pond
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Ya I wonder how they would have did with double shield

vagrant cargo
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Not good either

static pond
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Probably still lose but not as bad

vagrant cargo
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manos orisa is his worst hero

static pond
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Better then him on ball

vagrant cargo
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even in his prime his orisa was his weakest

static pond
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Lol

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Who you think they pick up?

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For tank

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Role

vagrant cargo
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mt?

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if they are dumb belosrea

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OT probably clestyn who is quite good

static pond
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Well both

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Idk hard to say

vagrant cargo
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since they seen to just promote T1

static pond
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Oh ya

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I hope carpe practice tracer and Sombra a bit more I'm wondering if he as flexible like lip or fits

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Oh ya I was gonna say at least they kept funnyarato lol but remembered glads picked him up

plush grail
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wait wtf

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i didn't realise fusion dropped so many players

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they only have carpe and alarm rn

vagrant cargo
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yeah

static pond
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Yup and there coach left to I think

vagrant cargo
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and technically zeat mn3

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zest*

plush grail
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also im willing to bet that eqo goes to either london or titans

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idk why

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but i just have a feeling

worn falcon
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Muze to Defiant? tracerkek

static pond
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Yup along with hotba and Twilight

plush grail
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defiant is so sad

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they keep on picking up good talent

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wasting them

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and dropping them

static pond
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Maybe coaching?

plush grail
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probably idk

vagrant cargo
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mobydik will fix that and kdg finally gets control

plush grail
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if toronto doesn't perform well just get rid of the org

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they're trying

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but just suck ass

twin bloom
hot onyx
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Oh yeah, Fusion are gaming

willow tartan
plush grail
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damn ur hot

noble nexus
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True

hot onyx
trail perch
vagrant cargo
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?

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take ur meds

trail perch
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??????

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WHATTT

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EQO HAD A GREAT YEAR

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He didnt join till late

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but once he did

vagrant cargo
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Ur hallucinating again

trail perch
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IM LITERALLY NOT

vagrant cargo
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He didnr do anything impressive all season πŸ˜­πŸ’€

trail perch
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OTHER PPL BACK ME UP

noble nexus
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Eqo dogshit

vagrant cargo
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mans was dreadful on sombra and tracer

vagrant cargo
trail perch
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nah bro ur fucking crazy

noble nexus
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Molanran better

vagrant cargo
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-friday top 5 mainsup

trail perch
vagrant cargo
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ser

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see

trail perch
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Not even joking

vagrant cargo
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maybe ur high again now

trail perch
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I am very very sober rn

vagrant cargo
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cap

trail perch
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Considering im in class

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But no

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Eqo was great

noble nexus
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You don’t get stoned before class? Pussy shit

vagrant cargo
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i wrote my best exams while being on coke class isnt proof that ur sober

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eqo wasnt even top 10 πŸ’€πŸ˜­

flat ingot
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MN3 good?

tropic herald
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yes

somber latch
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Compared to shockwave/eqo?

next mesa
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Eqo was prerry shit

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Pretty*

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MN3 best hitscan talent

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Except maybe pineapple aprita

hot onyx
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Nope

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MN3 top 10 hitscan out the gate

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Fusion untouchable in double hs meta

raw ermine
vagrant cargo
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Best dps in tier 2 not named proper

flat ingot
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Exciting

hot onyx
vagrant cargo
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no

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πŸ—£

hot onyx
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Avillos > Lip

north relic
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πŸ—Ώ

next mesa
vagrant cargo
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no.

next mesa
plush grail
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who cares

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naga bodies

noble nexus
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tf is naga lmao

plush grail
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wow you're so funny jack!

raw ermine
plush grail
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nice one dan

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thats fake

raw ermine
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No it isn't

plush grail
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wait wtf it isnt

novel owl
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yea its real

hot onyx
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...

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i was close

twin bloom
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Noo

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Rip atl

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Gg

noble nexus
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Real coaches aPES_HyperPoggers

plush grail
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i read that as real roaches

merry tinsel
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Glad might be a dumpster fire or the best team in the league

plush grail
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who even are these coaches

merry tinsel
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Noboadys

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Can't find any info on them either

noble nexus
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Smash was an 02 blast coach

raw ermine
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their former assistant coach, an o2 blast coach, and atl's former assistant coach

noble nexus
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^^

merry tinsel
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Interesting

noble nexus
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Face was responsible for the skewed pickup iirc

raw ermine
tawdry hamlet
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Hmmm interesting

past spoke
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Glads are best in the league w this lineup

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Maaybe im biasrd because they just picked up like 3 of my friends but im like forced to like them njow

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Im excited for frill in owl

trail perch
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????

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Who tf is frill

raw ermine
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reiner's old name

vagrant cargo
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best team when shanghai exists

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or O2 Shock#

twin bloom
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He's washed

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Never will make OWL

twin bloom
raw ermine
twin bloom
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Liquidpedia isn't always reliable

raw ermine
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I mean, for this it is, but whatever

trail perch
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I thought his old name was sh2pe

raw ermine
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bruv just read the pic

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he's had a billion different names

trail perch
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but when did he compete under that

plush grail
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im pretty sure some players have ow accounts named after eachother

raw ermine
hot onyx
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Frill is a dogshit western mt

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Trill is where the real money is at

noble nexus
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Sans your opinion is worthless

sullen berry
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Based sans
Trill is short for Trillionaire

plush grail
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Based

sullen berry
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Base

tawdry hamlet
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Blase

tropic herald
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boston mcd

willow drum
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fusion actually got a good dps player

earnest leaf
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Atlanta lose their best players

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and a solid coach

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guess it's back to gatekeeping

cedar oasis
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some would say atlanta is trash

tawdry hamlet
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Losing Iris Unter Pelican is fucking rough off season

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Like God damn

cedar oasis
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some would call them RATLANTA

noble nexus
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just you

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not some

plush grail
cedar oasis
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i am

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who won this year i stopped watching

noble nexus
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Atlanta made grand finals

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:)

cedar oasis
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how

noble nexus
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they're pretty good

cedar oasis
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i am assuming that most of the apac teams choked

earnest leaf
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mickey mouse 2nd place

noble nexus
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apac was dogshit

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it was shanghai and sometimes chengdu

earnest leaf
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b-b-b-but apac better region!!!!!111

noble nexus
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atleast NA was a close region between the top like 4-5 teams

earnest leaf
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honestly it was pretty similar s3

cedar oasis
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apac teams probably fell apart

earnest leaf
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Shd and then like 1-2 teams sometimes showing up

cedar oasis
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did seoul do good

earnest leaf
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seoul didn't make playoffs

noble nexus
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seoul and shock both had decent reg season records but were incredibly unremarkable otherwise

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atleast I think seoul had a good reg season

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record

cedar oasis
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hahah

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no

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at least not in the begining

earnest leaf
#

they were 12-4 this season

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same as shock

cedar oasis
#

man shock was cock then

earnest leaf
#

Shock had the best regular season record

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across the entire league

noble nexus
#

they just didn't do well in the matches that mattered

earnest leaf
#

pretty much

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also does this still mean every team with the best regular season didn't win Grand finals?

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yea it does

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NYXL s1, Titans s2, philly s3, shock s4

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all best regular season record but never won the finals

noble nexus
#

pretty sure it was tied between 3 teams this season tho right?

tropic herald
#

shock regular season record AWOOGA
shock score compared to other teams 🀒

worn falcon
#

philly just get a decent mt pls ml7Bless

cedar oasis
#

mano cries

tropic herald
#

doesnt even matter that shock was 12-4 bc they didnt make any tournies

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so they got passed up by every team better than them

worn falcon
#

mfw MN3 is underage

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next month is 18 lol

earnest leaf
#

they did get knocked out by stage winners each time they lost in knockouts tbf

worn falcon
#

But imagine losing Eqo, fastro, rascal, mano

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fuck tobi

tropic herald
#

still didnt make tournies MEGALUL

earnest leaf
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and idc what people say, knockouts definitely favored one bracket side at times

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Like glads had to face one of dallas or shock

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and i think atlanta had to face one of like fucking washington or toronto

worn falcon
#

atlanta gonna eat big dicks this season

noble nexus
#

atlanta losing everything man

worn falcon
#

im curious with the moves on Paris, London, Vanc, and Valiant

tropic herald
#

i love atlanta reign as a whole

worn falcon
#

Vanc gonna be slightly over budget

noble nexus
#

Valiant are apparently spending decent money

worn falcon
#

pray for Valiant getting good chinese players

noble nexus
#

and with them staying in apac and chinese players not really being signed I imagine they can built something decent

worn falcon
#

instead Krystal or FreeFeeed

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Mayhem going way down too

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Free Yaki

cedar oasis
#

they got rid of yaki

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didnt they

noble nexus
#

Yaki to nyxl

tropic herald
#

not official

noble nexus
#

they're trading him

worn falcon
#

not official, yeh

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shock is sleeping too

cedar oasis
#

yaki to seoul

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sounds decent

worn falcon
#

and andy in booba mode for super

worn falcon
#

Fits, profit, creative, stalk3r, smurf, jjonak and vindaim

noble nexus
#

no point in yaki to seoul they already have their dps line set

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gargoyle to seoul would be big tho

worn falcon
#

they need a damn good HC tho

cedar oasis
#

whos their ot

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they dont have one yet

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do they

noble nexus
#

seoul don't have one yet

worn falcon
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3 dps and 3 support, 1 mt

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lol

cedar oasis
#

dam smurf jjonack fits profit

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stacked already

worn falcon
#

just pray smurf isnt boomed like this last season with shock

cedar oasis
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all 4 of them could be the best at their role

noble nexus
#

Smurf wasn't boomed this season tbh

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both him and nero were still looking great

next mesa
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I don't think gargoyle is a big upgrade over their old ot

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toyou keep forgetting the name

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also didnt dragons have a better regular season record

noble nexus
#

it was tied between seoul shock and dragons

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12-4

next mesa
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cant believe spark went 4-0 in the june joust

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wtf i totally forgot about that

noble nexus
#

spark looked good at some point PES_SadGe

tropic herald
#

meh players on heroes that werent super hard to fuck up

next mesa
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they forced monke cree somehow worked omegalol

tropic herald
#

its more like when they had

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guzue monke

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shy echo/hs

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which is

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mcd ana was also pretty sick

tawdry hamlet
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Architect when he has to play genji for the millionth time

north relic
noble nexus
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nyxl are dogshit no one cares

tropic herald
#

i really need spark or shanghai or glads to make key caps

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please i beg you owl teams make key caps

noble nexus
#

spark key caps would look fucking sick

tropic herald
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i was so sad bc i was going to get o2 blast keycaps but then the process to get them to US was so hard

worn falcon
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old florida mayhem keycaps

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would be something like this

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next mesa
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LMAO

willow tartan
tropic herald
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next mesa
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wonder if mer1t's gonna get a team

willow tartan
#

Holy sheet they are clean

worn falcon
#

rip philly arena

raw ermine
#

can't say I am surprised

next mesa
#

Test

raw ermine
#

yo

next mesa
#

My wifi was fucked

#

WAZZAH

hot onyx
raw ermine
#

so cursed, yet so cracked

unknown.png
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probably

twin bloom
#

Reiner tracer space solo tank

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Watch

willow tartan
#

reiner roadhog specialist

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space plays everything else

gusty rampart
#

Reiner probably a better ball and Rein

somber latch
#

space orisa

next mesa
#

and winston

earnest leaf
#

I feel like glads are going to turn into atl v2

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just rush at all times

#

but i'm not too sure since they don't have a good mei

noble nexus
#

They'll probably sign another fdps I reckon

earnest leaf
#

Glister or shockwave would fit into that roster really well imo

noble nexus
#

I was thinking glister too tbh

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he'd go decently well with them

#

plus glister is one of my favourite players so I'm biased

balmy wolf
#

i was think s9mm personally

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from redbird

next mesa
earnest leaf
#

really?

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By worst do you mean still good but just not as good as his other heroes

next mesa
#

still good

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The only time he lost in na contenders was against lhcloudly and that team that was made for rush

#

and even then it was a 3-4

earnest leaf
#

tbf

next mesa
#

like if rein was meta

earnest leaf
#

cloudy is unironically a top tier rein

next mesa
#

he would still pound

#

but

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like if they had the choiec

#

they'd probably go for like a ball comp

twin bloom
#

Rein is his 2nd best Mt

balmy wolf
#

anyone else think that s9mm would complete gladiators dps line?

twin bloom
#

Unless you count hog

#

As a MT

twin bloom
#

So maybe

balmy wolf
#

i could also see boston promoting ITSAL but then again that 0:3 loss against redbird would be unappealing for scouters but then again it IS redbird

twin bloom
#

Itsal is rio 2.0

next mesa
#

Feel like AT as a whole was weaker when rush

twin bloom
#

It was only one month of contenders when they were unpracticed on rush

#

They won the next month of contenders dominatly playing rush

next mesa
#

I do feel like

#

The sym play improved a lot

#

Throughout those months

twin bloom
#

Yeah sym went from a meme pick

#

To a meta pick

#

Lol

earnest leaf
#

teams realized sym is closet broken

#

in rush

twin bloom
#

Blame dallas fuel

#

They popularized it

next mesa
#

Sparkle diff

earnest leaf
#

170 dps that reloads against shields

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VERY balanced!!111!

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oh and slows from turrets that can be put above you

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and a fat fucking wall every fight

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and more mobility

twin bloom
#

Had xzi not retired

#

Would sym rush even be meta lol

#

Fuel wouldn't be forced to run symm over Cree

#

Oh sorry cass!

earnest leaf
#

I think some team would have figured out sym was op in rush

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or dallas might have even just used xzi on sym

stuck radish
next mesa
#

Cass

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Cast iron

#

Cassadila

#

Quesadilla

willow tartan
#

xzi retired???

#

since when

tropic herald
#

Danteh claims Houston ran it first in scrims

next mesa
#

No he claimed that w neo goats

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Pretty sure

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I remember listening to that episode while "running"

tacit skiff
#

is dpei retiring after what happened with the glads or is he lft

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cause I bet Boston could use him

#

coach Lori been around too long for a mediocre team

earnest leaf
#

based off his stream it seems he still wants to coach

#

But he wanted to take some time to figure out what he wants to do

tawdry hamlet
#

Idk Lori I'd say has done alright besides stand1 and im37 but even stand1 can get you to mid tier

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If they had a real hitscan

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🀯

tacit skiff
#

i have a real big theory on that hitscan

#

I really don't think Striker would've joined the Uprising as is, Boston had to let him in on some other signing of someone else he likes

#

Whether it's Crusty, or someone else from the Shock, I think there's a real opportunity that we get another former Shock player (or Crusty) on the team

#

And seeming as Boston needs a dedicated hitscan player

#

My main theory is Glister

#

it can't be Choi, Super or Smurf, can't be Viol2t or Twilight, most likely isn't FDGod, so that really leaves DPS players from the Shock lineup

#

Nero already said he had an opportunity he couldn't pass up, so it's likely not him

#

Ta1yo is Ta1yo

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so I think the best possible choice is Glister out of anyone

noble nexus
#

Striker and glister played on the same team for like half a season he’s probably not gonna be convinced by just that

#

You’re huffing some mad hopium

tacit skiff
#

There's no one else I could think of as to why Striker joined

#

Boston has some sort of other announcements they just haven't made yet

#

Only time will tell I guess

north relic
#

I think striker saw a fat bag

hot onyx
#

Damn everyone getting real hype for a mid/bottom na team

devout path
#

We have striker

#

Striker valentine + solid backline

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And punk

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Now give me muze

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Or maybe keep gbs to learn main tank

tacit skiff
#

Halo just tweeted a gif of Myunbong

#

good news plesse

#

please

#

valiant πŸ™

devout path
#

Myunbong to some apac team

#

Or Houston

tacit skiff
#

Spark or Charge would be nice

#

maybe NYXL if they actually pick up a roster

devout path
#

Who have they picked up so far

tacit skiff
#

it's just Flora

#

still

#

been that way since they let everyone go

devout path
#

Yeah they just picked up a player manager so far

#

Idk why I thought they picked up a player

north relic
tacit skiff
#

jjonak washed

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@gusty rampart

north relic
#

don’t ping the shock fan pls

forest raven
north relic
#

I liked matsuki better

forest raven
#

I liked you not talking better

north relic
#

ok

hot onyx
#

Least irritating Shock fan vs most irritating NYXL fan

#

Equal debate

north relic
forest raven
#

NYXL fans are boomers who think mano and pine are still some of the best players to touch the game

north relic
forest raven
#

23 BBoomer

hot onyx
#

Inappropriate interactions with a miner

forest raven
#

What does he mine

#

Better not be fucking crypto

north relic
#

πŸŒ‘

forest raven
#

I'm gonna piss on the moon

hot onyx
next mesa
#

GGGG

north relic
#

which teams would want diem

#

Diem to philly when though

raw ermine
#

Carpe mn3 diem

#

Too many hs

next mesa
#

There's never too many hs

#

Put carpe on bap

worn falcon
#

Diem to Washington

north relic
worn falcon
#

Xzi still LFT too

#

Geeez

north relic
#

I don’t mind ig

tacit skiff
#

old news

#

get with the program

worn falcon
#

Ew myunbong

raw ermine
hot onyx
noble nexus
# hot onyx

it's ok sans they aren't gonna steal muze from philly either!!!

#

totally!!!!

raw ermine
#

omegalul

hot onyx
noble nexus
#

yeah I imagine

raw ermine
#

imagine... :)

hot onyx
#

Brb gonna go shower the gamer stench off, @ me when MuZe gets signed to Boston and Fusion sign Belosrea simultaneously

noble nexus
#

no one asked

tropic herald
#

@raw ermine your team

raw ermine
#

2024???

#

whoa

static pond
#

Did diem get out of retirement or something?

raw ermine
#

yes

static pond
#

Oh

#

Oh krillen join jusyicen

#

Justice

north relic
#

who is zest

mortal abyss
#

Good pickup

static pond
#

Was wondering same thing

mortal abyss
#

T1 flex dps

hot onyx
#

Could definitely be worse

mortal abyss
#

Yeah

hot onyx
#

Friendly reminder that nobody knew about the talent Ivy had until he joined Fusion

mortal abyss
#

I’m just wondering who we pickup for tanks

#

We will probably trade for fearless and void πŸ₯±

#

Any other opinion is wrong

hot onyx
#

Mans went from season 2 Defiant with IM37 Yakpung Envy and Roky to top 5 fdps

#

I like the Zest pickup

#

But I won’t like it if Fusion becomes T1 2.0

mortal abyss
#

I don’t mind getting clestyn

hot onyx
#

Sign Clestyn and leave the rest

mortal abyss
#

But we need a different main tank other then belosrea

hot onyx
#

No offence to them but there are better options than Belosrea and Unique

mortal abyss
#

And jecse is on the market

#

Jjangu and jecse are 2 good shouts

#

πŸ’€

hot onyx
#

Yes they are but MuZe

#

And Sanguinaar

#

Stacked

worn falcon
#

Xzi, Diem on the market too

static pond
#

Ist it still a bit risky picking them up?

#

Since they took a break and even before diem was bench

#

Huh uprising with marve1

hot onyx
#

Que

static pond
#

Uprising picked up marve1

sullen berry
#

His name could change with the times

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If you thought Marve1 was okay

#

Wait until you see him go all in as Marve2

static pond
#

Ya I was confused lmao

sullen berry
#

Uprising pickups are fairly wildcard

#

They might continue to go the route of a mixed roster, but Lori is probably more comfortable getting the best players he can

#

Striker ||Marve1|| Punk Crimzo and Faith Valentine does look decent @devout path

noble nexus
#

only looks decent because they have striker

#

otherwise it's mid af

balmy wolf
#

Boston not gonna be mediocre this year?

hot onyx
raw ermine
#

imagine calling a team with striker mid

hot onyx
#

Imagine calling a team with Valentine Punk Marve1 Faith and Crimzo above mid

willow tartan
#

now toronto on the other hand, that's a team with potential :)

trail perch
#

Marve1 faith and valentine r above mid tier players

#

Striker is an S tier player

#

and Crimzo is always a nutcase

#

Mans can play up to any level

tawdry hamlet
#

It sounds pretty mid without striker and Crimzo tbh

next mesa
#

YOOOO

#

MARVEL

#

Nah marvel is mid

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I'm a huge Marve1 fan as h guys know

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But he doesn't have high peaks

#

However

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He's the most flexible tank in the league

#

And he's consistent

#

I'm so happy he got picked up

willow tartan
next mesa
#

Benched michelle

#

Sounds like rush thinks chiyos mechanics are stronger than jecse

#

And he do love dat tho

tawdry hamlet
#

I wonder if happy will return to his peak

#

I miss peak happy he went Heesu tier

tacit skiff
#

who tf is marve1

hot onyx
#

Ex Seoul main tank

tacit skiff
#

nobody is better than the absolute goat that is stand1

#

is there a reason he's an ex main tank for seoul

#

wait wait lemme guess

noble nexus
#

seoul doesn't know how to use main tanks

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they also made marve1 play OT for a season

hot onyx
#

β€œAggressive rebuild” -Aronold

tacit skiff
#

former owl pro is shit, goes to contendies, shits on contendies, gets signed by medicore owl team, career gets ruined forever

#

that's the story right?

hot onyx
#

Marve1 has been on Seoul since s2

tacit skiff
#

Seoul was medicore until s3

cedar oasis
#

now all we need is fissure back

fallen turret
#

Was stand1 good in 2020?

twin bloom
#

No

#

He was bad

#

He was bad

#

Shredlock better

tacit skiff
#

stand1 cracked on ball only on busan

deft glacier
#

hey

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can we talk about this

worldly flax
#

y'all think ta1yo will get signed for the next season? ZenyattaCry

cedar oasis
#

hahaha

#

no

worn falcon
#

I'm expecting mr logix get signed before ta1yo

#

Or im37

worldly flax
#

DIEM

#

carpe's friend and an awesome widow hitscan PogChimp

devout path
#

DIEM????

devout path
worldly flax
#

carpe and diem in the same team πŸ₯Ί

next mesa
#

diem also known as the widow goat

devout path
#

Diem was the second or best widow in season 3

#

Basically the same thing as ans

next mesa
#

the widow goa

#

goat

#

the two time

#

back to back

#

widow duel champion

devout path
#

Diem and ans was THE widow duel

next mesa
#

easy for diem

#

0-5

#

9-5

#

so easy

worldly flax
#

the ans vs pine widow duel never happened NotLikeSoldier

devout path
#

Pine would get rolled

worldly flax
devout path
#

What

worldly flax
#

SombraThinking I remember seeing an article about him losing a widow duel and he said he played gay or something

#

something like that...wait lemme try to find it

next mesa
#

he said the way diem played is "so gay" and he didnt care so he just went for aggressive and stupid peaks and thats why he lost

worldly flax
#

ooh thanks levy TracerSalute

devout path
#

Cringe

#

I mean

#

Was that translated from Korean or ans speaking English

next mesa
#

they just need to change widow duels or something

#

make it like ana duels

devout path
#

No

#

Widow duels are cooler

#

Who won

#

I forgot

#

Oh yeah

#

Gwangboong

willow tartan
#

Okay now I get it.
Diem retired in 2021 because All-Stars Widowmaker 1v1 wasn't gonna happen.
He's back now to compete in the 2022 All-Stars event.

devout path
#

I like where all the good players retire just to come back next season

willow tartan
devout path
#

Birdring comes back mid season 5

#

Pine won’t get signed

worn falcon
willow tartan
#

develop contract not exercised because shanghai org knew diem was gonna come back and they only need 2 hitscan players monkaHmm

devout path
#

Wasn’t diya playing in a charge trial scrim

willow tartan
#

yeah he was

next mesa
#

i would say pineapple is the china widow goat

#

but yes

willow tartan
#

now since dding is also lft

#

they could totally start together on a team

worn falcon
#

Dding vs Lip

#

Sombra duel

devout path
#

Who did dding play for before

willow tartan
#

SHD

devout path
#

I remember the name but blanking on everything else

#

Season 2 Shanghai?

willow tartan
#

season 2 shanghai

#

pharah

devout path
#

Yeah

willow tartan
#

he played a bit in s3 as well

devout path
#

I remember now

#

I wonder how pelican would do as pharah in goats meta

#

Excluding the fact that Atlanta would play goats

worn falcon
#

Dding was pharah/sombra

#

Pelican is now Outluls

devout path
#

Man I wanna see striker vs leave tracer duel

worn falcon
#

That's gonna happens if striker carries uprising

devout path
#

Well

#

Striker valentine is pretty stacked

earnest leaf
#

upgrade valentine and it would be stacked yea

#

too bad striker will outshine him by a mile

devout path
#

Valentine is good

earnest leaf
#

mid*

devout path
#

Valentine was comparable to sparkle echo

earnest leaf
#

Sparkle echo wasn't anything that special either tbf

#

It got gapped by good echos

devout path
#

I agree

#

Sparkle echo was not a top tier echo but neither is valentine echo

#

Both high tier echos

earnest leaf
#

Not valentine lol

devout path
#

Yes valentine

tacit skiff
#

Yes valentine

#

speaking of the Boston Uprising

#

that makes two players this off-season who've made grand finals appearances

#

striker + marve1

#

punk gonna do so good

earnest leaf
#

marve1 got a mickey mouse appearance tbf

devout path
#

Marve1 but on sigma

tacit skiff
#

IT COUNTS

devout path
#

Not rlly

tiny pollen
#

it was mickey mouse grand finals

tacit skiff
#

either way

#

we just need a hs and a fs?

tiny pollen
#

seoul getting to grand finals shows how it was mickey mouse

devout path
#

Crimzo

earnest leaf
#

Shock deserved GF that year

tacit skiff
#

oh right

earnest leaf
#

seoul did barely anything and got carried by the meta

tacit skiff
#

for all the hype I gave crimzo last season I like to forget he exists

devout path
#

Ah yes profit Hanzo fits widow gesture hog

#

Creative ana

#

Definitely not like one of their best characters or anything

#

Crimzo is solid

tacit skiff
#

who did TD sign till 2024?

devout path
#

Lol we’re dumb

tacit skiff
#

ik he can play cree

#

but

#

what if we need a tracer plus hs

devout path
#

Sniper specialist sure

tacit skiff
#

it'd be safe to have a third DPS anyway

#

just incase

earnest leaf
#

get diem

tacit skiff
#

I was thinking abt diem earlier

#

Gwangboon needs a team right?

devout path
#

Striker diem

#

Kinda stacked

tacit skiff
#

they signed Ch0r0ng for three seasons????

devout path
#

It would be a crime if diem isn’t picked up

earnest leaf
#

It does hurt striker is on a team that most likely isn't winning anything though

tacit skiff
#

Boston in s1 would like to have a word with you lmao

#

striker made Boston

#

and now he's back

earnest leaf
#

yes back when the competition was xqc on tank

devout path
#

Are you calling striker washed

earnest leaf
#

Striker is nutty but he isn't going to deadlift against top teams

devout path
#

Idk

#

Striker tracer > leave

#

Who did deadlift

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Many times

tiny pollen
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leave

earnest leaf
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But still never won anything

next mesa
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MVP

devout path
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Profit tracer also deadlifted

earnest leaf
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and that chengdu roster is probably better than what boston has atm

willow tartan
earnest leaf
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seoul lost because viol2t zen> everyone that year

devout path
willow tartan
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if they had like a top tier zen player seoul wouldve stood more of a chance

earnest leaf
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not really

devout path
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No

earnest leaf
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ana was the better meta pick at the time still

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Just viol2t was gapping them way too hard

devout path
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The zen was just Viol2t being really really fucking good

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I think if they had a good zen player they would’ve lost harder

earnest leaf
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If they had izayaki or even alarm on zen they still lose

willow tartan
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here's how seoul can win the 2020 grand finals

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  • beat up viol2t irl
earnest leaf
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Not get gapped at every role

devout path
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If they had alarm zen then it would be closer

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But still Viol2t zen was much better that season

willow tartan
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yes

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kinda not cool bro