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dunno honestly
Is it that bad tho? Only saw 1 video of a pro playing soldier on ow2 alpha/demo
well rlly ow2’s release is just a attempt to win back players that left
There are like 4 maps of gameplay we’ve seen
which is funny cause it has done jack shit for the player turnover rate
owl has not gotten smaller since 2020
Wdym w jackshit
same viewership on YouTube
players are still leaving the game at the same rate as year probably even more
bc ow2 is coming soon prob
No
Around april right
Because of the meta and being prepared for online and stuff
It’s also just fun to watch owl
its still bad compared to games like valorant/LoL tho
Havent been able to watch a match cause i came back w a new account 2 weeks ago since years
imo they should make the game free to play and profit off cosmetics
would attract so many new players
Well i think that lol is the biggest esport
And than cs
it is yeah
Doesn’t owl get more viewership than val
lol had like 300k viewers a week ago on twitch
How much does val get
idk how many people watch on site/app but valorant gets like 200/250k
also not even on finals
peak val 800k
just their tournaments get 200k viewers
Is that just the pro play?
If I start playing val my friends will kill me for it😂
uk how blizzard works
i know they arent going to do that
but all their competitors do it
look at valorant fortnite csgo
all still huge games to this day
Csgo will never die
cause europe worships csgo like its soccer
I’ve barely heard anything about csgo
Yeah xD
Last year huge coach scandal
What even is a coaching scandal
na is..the fuck is na
was gonna say japan is fighting game paradise but most americans are hardcore about fighting games
and like maybe shooters
fps not tactical fps or moba fps
Cod?
ye believe me or not na cod has a cult following
everything goes and passes with the wind
Japan and usa
10 years later and we are still tryna prove we are good at lol when basically learning how to play leauge is asian education at this point
Like sc2
ye despite how the smash scene has no support its mega..same with mk And other fighters
nintendo is a good/ shit company 
Fuck Nintendo
Refuses to support literally the best fighting game ever made
they couldve esports gods but they dont support jack shit
kinda blizzards story 2 with hots and ow
yes ow was technically on top of the world
for a year
True back in 2016 right
same for me with fortnite
i dont follow the scene so i dont hear anything about it
2018
Btw is peeta mellark still working in the owl?
but its still a massive game
Forgot his real name xD
According to multiple sources the Houston Outlaws have signed former Atlanta Reign support player Seung-Hyun “Ir1s” Kim
outlaws being smart
legit signing the best parts of atl
im interested to see who they get as ms or a second fs
theres a few options
masaa lukemino and chorong are who im currently thinking
grab one of moth/jecse/masaa for MS imo
are likely
moth or jecse would be alright but i was listening up to the interview of harsha
seems like teams are more interested in getting 2 fs before a ms
houston reign
houston reign, dallas mystic, sho2k and floridian tornado
That’s an odd title to give Tekken 3
How good is Chiyo
Got a sweet brig
I could argue that he’s an upgrade to Jecse
But that sorta depends on how highly you rate Jecse
Melee
Lucio?
would be weird if Glads dropped shu
When do we get esports ping role
How am I supposed to keep motivating people and telling them that it’s all about working hard and having the right discipline, after not having a single tryout during this off-season, despite me applying all of my own advice ?
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pls no esport role
would be annoying
What team is this
London?
GetAmazed was Paris coach
But they have tryouts
Glads resigned Shu instead of throwing their entire bank account at Alarm smh what a throw gg go next season
and crimzo and kai are baiting in twitter 
I'm guessing this is resign day for LA cause skewed is back
Last year he made a splash; now he's ready to make a legacy.
Join us in welcoming @skewedOw back to the Gladiators! https://t.co/w7GmEyDfFW
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skewed shu
skewed shu scary double fs backline
assuming double fs is gonna be as good as all of the teams think
I think skewed also is their MS player now
Cause we saw him play a good mercy and obviously brig
So he just needs to learn lucio
just learn lucio 4head
I mean there’s an entire off-season to learn one hero
we all know if someone is good at brig and mercy they cant be good at lucio and vise versa
thats just how it is for some reason
sometimes you get the god at lucio and mercy but cant play brig
he's back babyyyy
I'd say still get a cheap MS as a just in case
considering we saw what happened when a world class FS played MS
and it was incredibly mediocre
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they also have barely any more info than us on ow2 so it probably wouldnt be the smartest to sign a whole new player that might not even be that good at what they need to fill
Well would you look at that, Fusion 3.0
i feel like toronto is gonna be sleeper good this year
Can’t wait for Hotba to get signed
not top notch but certainly in the upper tier
Alongside Zest
I just hope toronto doesn't cheap out on the rest of the roles
toronto isnt supposed to be
like don't sign fucking slime or some shit
next season might have a fuck ton of stacked teams
not like this year
like numerous teams that could be argued as the best
majed to houston 
is he MS?
He's FS
hol up what
And really good
ljg:
this is a boston type signing
majed is def good
Majed is provide but arabic and non controversial
interested to see him off ping in not eu
majed is speak english well?
Yes lmao
im ask because ive never heard him speak at all
Name an EU player
at least i dont think i do
memeicus yellow name
i wanna see a mid-season whomegalul signing next year
Skewed could def be like the first support player that can play pretty much every
pretty sure lris is going houston
i bet houston offered the most money for super
literally every team is picking up two flex supports because that is apparently gonna be the key support meta for ow2
it's not unreasonable for both of them to go to houston
Mer1t has been ready
for teams
for like 2+ years now
How has nobody picked him up
and why did Shock chose Kilo over Mer1t?
is it a higher ceiling
or did someone finally get merit
According to multiple sources, the Florida Mayhem have agreed to trade star DPS player Jun-Ki “Yaki” Kim to the New York Excelsior
1508
has this been posted
thoughts?
SirMajed Grinding paying off
Those Saudi players on the grind 😤
Also diem pls come back 😭
flora's gonna pop
wait who has the higher ceiling?
We all saw what happened last time Crusty coached a rookie hitscan player
granted I don't think anyone will reach the peaks ans did
Kilo
Merit most likely hit his peak
Already
wait so why didnt they keep ans then
He need more focus on ta1yo so he could make him a beast but can't
Neither glister
Sad
didnt chengdu win that map
which one
dorado
that was the one where Shock was able to stay alive till Reign ended it
dorado was the map 5
I think Ans had mental health problems
iirc
again
that why he left
Why would Shock sign a hitscan player
who has mental health problems
Why shouldn't they play it safe and go for another mini ans?
thats....what they're doing now
Exactly
well at leas i think kilo got no problems
thats whyy they only have violet and super
super for marketing
I think shock had some internal issues
viol2t bc he is still cracked
That boomed a lot of its players
yeah
makes sense
nero didnt seem too happy
striker ans left/joined mid season so that was a mess
glister, idk anything bout him
and apparently striker was being
sorta salty
and then ta1yo and nero and shit
and glister all fightong for spots
wasnt striker kinda mean to taiyo
and then viol2t on mccree
i doubt he was mean
i mean somewot negative
but maybe he was being unconsciously rude
yeah prob
better to clean ship
and i mean
no need to keep
nero glister ta1yo striker
when u just get proper LOL
if they get proper
i just like ans man
shock valiant pick up
houston???
and halo would get actyally cancelled
did halo say proper to shock
oof
gosh i wish he right
he also said Ir1s to Houston
yeah those are reasonable
I mean listen Halo's career
12-6
yeah jsut happened to choke and almost lose twice

I highly doubt it
yeah
cause a. its halo
not thats its going to
i hope so
b. it makes logical sense
i mean leakers have been wrong
Yeah i guess
not a lot tho
but Sho2k seems reasonable enough
yeah it does
umm
Seoul which might actually get somewhere
NYXL which looking good
they have 2 players
Chengdu which is goated cause they have Leave
And Fusion because they're getting some T1 players
houston are not messing around tho
is this confirmed
and west is serious as hell
nah
houston, shock, dallas(?),
i mean look at Torontos first pick
toronto as well yea i forgot
off season is goinh crazy
iive been waiting for a proper announcement for a week now
glads kinda
they lost birdiring but they got kev
they did lose birdring but eh
the glad support is goated
tank maybe not so much
dps they got 1 player so we cant assume
im not suprised they kept the shu / skewed backline
who is
yea birdiring was a massive piece
fr
Kevster was the bigger piece in fairness
dps and support mainly
Hmmm
it was mostly dps and shu
Do you think the HS or the FS market is bigger right now
But birdring was and still is a nutcase
now that twilight is signed idk
apparently ow2 ms wont be a important
Well I mean some of the big free agent FS’ are already gone
yea
Or rumoured to be gone atleast
FiNN
jjonak
Finn
o yea
Jjonak
whats the talon fs again?
that it?
is he of age
jjonak on any team makes it good
vigilante
or is he just a child prodigy
idk
yeah vigilante's a nutcase
he just looked goood in finals
twilight jjonak???
Jjonak on nyxl didn’t make nyxl good
jjonak rumored to go to seoul
makes sense
at season 1 it did
season 2 as well
Seoul the retirement home for OWL
not this year 
Yeah but he wasnt carrying those seasons in those seasons
wait so Shanghai
Chungdu
Phily
Seoul
NYXL
until they lost vs shanghai
ooh
and 8th was
ny didnt make it i remember
Yeah and the only teams below are valiant and charge lmao
hol up lemme check
Don’t tell me that’s not bad
not exactly an accomplishment
Seoul actually looking somewhat good this year
yea they didnt make it in
is smurf announced yet
they were looking good in season 1 dont get yall hopes up
I’m kinda lost with some teams only taking main tanks and some teams seemingly only taking off tanks tbh
dont think so
Unless all the big tank pickups are yet to happen
But Profit Fits.....
Is goated
we know they are proven
Smurf is proven
I guess the only weakness of Seoul is their support
and even then Vindaim was on O2 so he's pretty solid
and Jjonak is a veteran
didnt think so
So I don't get how they'll fail this season....
majed Florida
but its seoul so they'll fail
hes their new fs
is eqo still good?
mid
eqo is good yeah
o yeah stalk3r is nice
Happy to see ChiYo get signed
It's their coach now
Only flaw
didnt they Release changg
a bit of a hot take but ok
yeah they released hc chang
Like his tracer is really nice
Wouldn't be mad if he plays tracer over profit
But other than that
Still a sexy addition tho
Also yeah changoon is gone so it depends on who they sign
Jfeel/nohill
hell nah
oposite
Honestly he hasn't even played contenders since July
Also what we thinking of that
i mean yeah because he has been scrimming w seoul
Also imo exorath and skairipa>majed
I wonder if myunbongs gonna find a team
he has sick mechanics
I think crimzo properly rated he's like top 3-4 western imo
dogshit on bap
Yeah but if u want western fs
barely makes fightwinning plays ocasionaly feeds
He's one of the top choices behind uv
fair
I don't watch much exorath
Can't comment
I hope vigilante gets signed
But I don't see a spot for him
Honestly I worry for our bap problem for seoul
also the guy that told me majed Florida is sometimes missing
so it isnt guaranteed
but majed is 100 percent in OWL
KAAN EU
But honestly I've been watching jjonak bap pov
lol
Honestly not bad
Vigi's still 17
also isnt Rhynno like 14
Yea 15 I think
Lowkey jjonak bap cooldown management better than viol2t
Viol2t wastes shift so often
Facts
he used it v well in jj
So glad we picked him up
people just think jjonak is washed
I was a bit worried for seoul settling for creative
Who do u think seoul should get as ot
garg
Sometimes missing?
because nyxl hasnt won much but they made a a playoff showing
What other team could he go to
idk
but dude told me sone false stuff in the past
Wonder if titans are gonna actually spend more than happy meal money
altough it almost happened appereantly
Same w EQO London
Why did ninek like him so much
They wanted him prolly but if your shockwave you take philly over london any day
yeqh lol
good
Yeah he's so mid
He wont
Idk why people were hyping up over carpe Eqo DPS line
Mirror>>eqo
who wouldve been better than eqo for carp
I wonder

Chad
undead
Ehhhhh
Idk about that one
I think he looked weaker this season but Florida this season was let down by oge and sometimes slime
So we’ll see
Idk I just think other than sig his other tanks are pretty mid
Maybe we could yoink attack
Or cade
Or f4ze
I think his sig is top tier and his dva zarya hog are about above average honestly
But I’ve always been high on gargoyle for some reason soooo
Cape
Grape
carp
crape
car
Yes
why did 02 play merit more than kilo
kilo too no brain
they dont have time to develop kilo in a finals match bro
i think maybe as of rn mer1t is better but crusty sees more potential in kilo
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I want to see Crusty make a bad player like FRDWNR good
Nevix is worse than frd and looked competant under crusty
For like the 8 maps??
He played s2
does anyone think titans will ever be good again
Nomegalul
No
Oh my gosh
Junbin and Max both like 16
Damn that's insane
Holy shit
Heesang is only 16
If he grinds it out
He'll be better than proper
just finished watching the contenders final
few things
heesang can potentialy be as good as proper if he puts in the work
someone PLEASE sign mer1t guy is cracked out of his mind
also proper is korean leave is valid
proper and leave carry their teams so so hard
so wait
I can root for the same players without changing my team
smurf profit fits
yep
no idea for supports
i think they would sign glister and maybe aztac
No supports have been solidified for seoul yet
they could go for any ms and succeed since they have fits smurf and profit so a glister signing wouldnt be all that big but it makes the core solid
bruhhhh

nanda saving blade for next season
Would you put Tobi above jecse
no
How many stage titles has tobi won
Jjonak Vindaim
yes
Is creative resigned
Yes
In OWL, 0
Disappointing
IT'S OFFICIAL BABY
It’s not “official” official
Smurf to Seoul
It still needs to be put in #esports-news
Me too, big Stalk3r fan
Or he’ll wash up like WhoRU and Na1st
JJoNak announcement hopefully soon
Halo said according to multiple sources JJoNak will join
is the chinese contenders good
Probably
Well it’s officially official
I'm about to sign up to be an eSports announcement coordinator
Eh maybe maybe
Virgin provider
Gg Seoul
Was nice too meet you
Just hope smurf isn't boomed as he was in Shock
Otherwise would be mediocre Seoul all over again
Seoul might fuck up apac this year
Levy have fun
dont bully me too hard when spark flop
spark should just promote alphayi
get nohill
get superrich
get gangnamjin
ez
I feel like Seoul’s job at this point is just picking up former champions
Shy Alphayi LiGe 800 Superrich Kyo
Or if Chengdu make a play for LiGe sign Lateyoung
And bingo, you’ve got an all chinese super team that you should’ve had last year
Oh, right, the signings. The signings of players and coaches. The signings of players and coaches chosen especially for the team, those signings. Yes, absolutely, of course. 😌🤫
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Seoul's job is to have as many season 1 veterans as they can
they only have one
if jjonak joins 2
I think Shanghai actually takes that title now?
@Diderito Profit came up big in convincing him to join the team. He had multiple higher offers but liked the DPS core / bet we are taking on OW2.
many teams trying to get smurf
ofc
i can imagine NYXL, Philly betting on smurf
is smurf not consistent?
Sorry when I said consistent I meant in the respect of being able to play all 4 main tanks at a high level
And Smurf rein isn’t the best and idk how much he’s been practising orisa since he got benched for Super in orisa games
And with main tank about to be the only useful tank for Overwatch 2 I’m sure Fusion want an mt as flexible as possible
Honestly surprised Glads didn’t keep him
philly are Favorites for muze
location diff
other rumored teams are boston shock Toronto
and NYXL
Exactly, that’s why he’s gonna go to Charge
Wasn’t that more about confidence issues though?
Also sado might be heading to Houston
That would be
smurf was always a weak rein
Interesting
even on GGEA
Also ggea had no Business being that shit
smurf Fischer sharp greyy aid
To be fair if Super was benching me to play winston I would have confidence issues as well
and i forgot the OT but i think the OT wasnr bad either
maybe
but anyways
mn3 carpe vulture MuZe Clestyn chorong alarm
what we thinking
i think if T1 coaching works out vulture could fuck
I’m thinking that I would prefer a risk on ChoiSehWan
i dont think philly gets csw
but if they do
id be even more of a fan
CSW is one of my Favorite players i have been hyping him up since pre season
and i will die on the CSW>Profit hill
Oh CSW definitely > Profit
Only problem was he only had one good team mate to back him up
There’s only so much one guy can do with Eileen hitscan Rio Mandu and Kariv
Did you forget profit
yuh
no
Profit and jjonak are the only S1 players there
smurf was S2
Still baffles me that people thought JJonak > Alarm last year because of the zen 1v1
Keeping punk 
@tacit skiff
I liked Faith this year tbh
nah he was pretty bad
boston w imo
faith was great
dude had a great brig great lucio and a good mercy lol
He was bostons most consistent and best piece
truein
Good description of Fusions
i was actually curious and started looking at his basic brig stats
they are pretty cracked
especialy considering how Myunbong tried to go for risky plays and how often stand1/GBS fed
if you consider context his stats are pretty good
ye
he sits pretty close to ljg in deaths too which i think is the most important brig stat
wish there was more in depth stats for heroes just on the basic page doe
Holy shit Bebe so bad he got released twice 
you saw nothing :)
paris new when
glads
mald cuz glads aren't a full EU team but we still have the best EU player in the league
KEVSTER BEST EU PLAYER 
You thought onigod was a top tier hitscan last season btw
Terrible terrible opinions
🙄
oh god the 4 biggest shitposters are here now
So true bestie 💅
Best western fdps tier list:
1: EQO
2:Naga
3:Danteh
4:Nero
5:Blasè
masaa > kevster
nero is na
That’s taiyo
Wait EQO is korean my bad
Nero is American
He played as the only English player in charge for a season
who?
The shocks hangaround
supertf?
Nonono that’s their content creator
man shut up go listen to stormzy or somethin
nah im def above jack and memeicus
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???? No one even knows who you are you cro magnun
Fuck you I don’t listen to drill
nah jack gtfo ur irrelevent
Lmfao
who even are you
Also
Breaking: Dallas Fuel sign ex-Atlanta Reign DPS player “Edison,” TazMo tells DMN. The Fuel were interested in Edison for a while, including during the 2021 season.
More on the pickup: https://t.co/aVeTaVkQ33
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Wait what
why
edison bad
I lurked until like the exact time you joined
why they sign him
What do they even see in Edison
Dedicated hitscan player?
If so they’re braindead
Edison L pickup
but atleast charge got develop
Edison Fielder?
Yes
Thats the only connection i can think of
Also
According to multiple sources, former Shanghai Dragons DPS player Rak-Hoon “Develop” Chae, has supposedly been signed by the Guangzhou Charge
yeah
O2 player
boston mayb?
He’s insane
mn3 philly
please tell me stellar makes owl
Edison is a wacky pickup since his hero pool is very similar to sparkle isn't it?
He deserves it
No
He's hitscan
Tracer
Edison is a hard hs
With light flex
no...
It's doomfist tracer reaper sym
He played pharah genji
What else does he play
But hes not a hard hitscan
yet hes still considered a hard hs
Yeah decay was known for his flexability
hes a hard hs w a tracer
Fuel signed Edison?
thats how he became renowned
no
Edison to Fuel
For swaping his aim style for different characters
He became renowned because of goats
He was never that great off hitscan
Fuck it good pickup
His genji was incredible 2018

His hanzo has always been incredible
All he did was play it on anubis B
to blade
Sparple gengo > Edison gengo
zhats all he did on genji
That was just in finals...
also his genji during SS was cracked
and the only time they played genji
EDISON?
whenever he played it
Is Edison a hs or fdps
whoa
what
he is tracking HS, probably does some normal HS tho
He didnt play genji much for fuel
when he did He did way worse than doha
his mechanics besides blade arent great
Thats just false
u didnt otherwise u wouldnt come to that conclusion
Or map 1 i think
https://twitter.com/Edison_OW/status/1451232287174057987
he @'d a suspended account lul
Hello, I am Edison. I am thrilled to work with Dallas Fuel for the next season. I will put my best efforts to bring a positive outcome to the team.
I would also like to give a quick shout out to @viOLet agency for making the transition to Fuel smoother.
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Dallas didnt play Houston in SS
Should also note that Edison is a former teammate of Fielder. That was a factor in his. Fielder spoke highly of his new DPS teammate, and the Fuel are confident Edison will fit right in with the culture.
they played Paris and got first rounded
Called it
I meant in genji meta era
thats what i mean by SS
Signing people who used to play together worked for fuel last year so we'll see how it goes
What in the lords name
Ah GC Busan nepotism
sent vod
i cant find ut on youtube
but im p sure they didnt play Houston
it was reverse sweep
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I think it was countdown cup but still genji busted
Decay plays genji on nepal shrine
and against paris in SS on lijang control center
those r the 2 maps i clearly remember him fucking on
Im skimming through it
He had a 3k one where 2 where w blade
and a different blade 2k
He hasnt done anything impressive against a shit team
it was a decent Performance vs a shit team
nothing standing out
Decay opened up nepal by killing both supports
