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gusty rampart
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I said the 1 DPS if they wanted to keep 5v5

sullen berry
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Noice

gusty rampart
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Tanks are too essential to the game

sullen berry
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Gunbae online and ready to assert dominance on NA

noble nexus
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I have really good idea

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we do 3 tanks 3 support and remove dps

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:)

next mesa
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Let's just to 2 tanks 3 DPS 2 supports

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Or just do 9v9 fuck it

noble nexus
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fuck it 32v32 owl matches

next mesa
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Fuck it

noble nexus
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y'know what?

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fuck it lets turn overwatch into battlefield

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72v72 ow match

gusty rampart
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7v7 OW sounds fun as hell tbh

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Keep the game fun and not screw over players

sullen berry
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Nah 8v8 is where it's truly at

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No limits

next mesa
sullen berry
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Stress test the OW2 engine

next mesa
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Just buff the tanks and healers a little

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Dps more "fun" but individually less impactful trade off

sullen berry
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Tanks should hopefully get their time to shine with the right brawly rework across the off tanks and doom

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Doomfist can finally be at even parity with winston

hot onyx
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Honestly I wouldn’t support either because my ass dislikes change but 7v7 >>> 5v5

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More chaotic while still allowing the peel from tanks to prevent the game becoming a dps show

gusty rampart
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Based Sans?

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Based Sans.

balmy wolf
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sans is bad thats why hes mad

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dropped 2000 sr and blames everyone else

earnest leaf
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Are you sure you want to play tank vs hanzo/echo/widow

gusty rampart
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Yes

balmy wolf
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yes

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actually yes

gusty rampart
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Better than 1 against Echo Hanzo

earnest leaf
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I don't think you get how fast you would die vs 3 dps

gusty rampart
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Than get the other 3 DPS off their asses

earnest leaf
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Imagine getting dove by tracer/sombra/echo

gusty rampart
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Already do

balmy wolf
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5v5 is great

gusty rampart
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False

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It looks more casual than competitive

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I would actually find it fun if
5v5 Casual
6v6 Competitive

noble nexus
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shit looks like a typical deathmatch game honestly

gusty rampart
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*Team Deathmatch

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And yes I did a 5v5 team Deathmatch the other day and it felt like OW2

tropic herald
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Y’all watching OW 1.5 and have opinions on OW 2.0 already, wait till we get a beta or something

tawdry hamlet
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I am both excited for new content and sad to see my favorite faces of old content retire

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:((

hot onyx
balmy wolf
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ur computer

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ur motivation

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ur teammates

hot onyx
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Your logic is incomprehensible and your brain is non existent

balmy wolf
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ur friends

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owl

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the ranked system

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the esports chat

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luigis girlfriend

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the brand of philadelphia fusion

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the timezones memeicus is using

hot onyx
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I blame you for the loss of my will to live

balmy wolf
hot onyx
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“12 blocked messages”

balmy wolf
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12 blocked braincells u have

raw ermine
digital cloud
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I feel like we should be treating this like we did Titans or valiant

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How could you possibly give up such a historied team

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Throw them more money plz

hot onyx
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Nah they didn’t suddenly decide to throw a team to the dirt to appeal to their budget or the CCP

last nimbus
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thought about that yesterday, titans, valiant, spitfire, all dropped so low

digital cloud
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I know it isn’t the same, but it almost feels like it with such an iconic team gone

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Never was a Shock fan but it kinda hurts

hot onyx
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No pain on my end

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Felt it more with the disband of NYXL

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Besides it was coming for a long time

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After the departures of Rascal Moth ||nobody|| Ans Striker Ans again

trim shadow
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at this point i expect about 70% of the s1 old gods to retire

tawdry hamlet
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lmaoo nero even drawn with a beanie

hot onyx
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I believe the only players from season 1 currently on a team are Carpe Profit Fury Fleta Super Danteh Fearless Jake Space and Fate

trim shadow
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only 2 of those is on there original team

hot onyx
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JJonak EQO and Poko haven’t found a team yet

trim shadow
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space and carpe

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i guess jake counts

hot onyx
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SPACE

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Former off tank for the Los Angeles Valiant SPACE

trim shadow
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UY99_codm_kek its been fukin 4 years the inagural year was a blur for me

hot onyx
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Not for me

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I still remember the Surefour Hydration dps duo like it was yesterday

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Good times

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Imagine Logix gets signed by another team

twin bloom
trim shadow
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well valiant yea

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still dont forgive them for asking

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but asking is back to grinding so he might be back

twin bloom
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Asking was so good early 2020

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But he fell of since then

trim shadow
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i mean thats cause he got robbed from joining owl anyone would slump if you were 1 good nights sleep away from@the big stage

twin bloom
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Yeah. Prov1de was the opposite. He got better after being dropped from valiant

earnest leaf
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Every player that was dropped from shock could probably be a starter somewhere

trim shadow
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strange shit UY99_codm_kek

earnest leaf
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except maybe ta1yo

trim shadow
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lowkey pissed shock wasted taiyo

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dont kno if its because taiyo got out practicrf

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or he just never fit

tawdry hamlet
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eu players and getting stuck in visa jail and never playing

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name a more iconic duo

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Neptuno on charge and Lullsish lmao

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tragic

trim shadow
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soon

twin bloom
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Western main tanks and winston

earnest leaf
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was the best western winston really fucking xqc

tawdry hamlet
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question is, was lullsish ellivote better than Roar JJanu?

earnest leaf
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lullsish was probably better than roar

tawdry hamlet
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anyone is probably better than roar

twin bloom
tropic herald
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Jkaru WICKED

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The polar opposite of western MT

trim shadow
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was there ever a successful western korean duo besides maybe super and choi

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in terms of synergy

tawdry hamlet
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space and muze ig

twin bloom
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Pokpo frd!

tawdry hamlet
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Atlanta B Squad went hard

trim shadow
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ahh yea that year atlanta had a 13 man roster just not use half of it and wet the bed that season

tropic herald
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What even happened to pokpo, he fell off

earnest leaf
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reminds me of s2 seoul

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they would swap their entire roster after a map to fuck with people

trim shadow
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was oddly effective until they played top teams

tropic herald
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But also neither Seoul team was that good sep

trim shadow
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for the life of me

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how was atlanta

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not good with a 13 man set

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but made grand finals with a eye a gator a hawk thomas edison kai and a pelican

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what the fuck is this

tropic herald
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Internal problems moment

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If I had to guess

earnest leaf
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having a top tier FDPS and FS does wonders for a team

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and a top tier hitscan

trim shadow
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i mean well

earnest leaf
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gator/hawk don't have to be superstars to perform with that roster

trim shadow
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brad kept fielding babybay

earnest leaf
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Hey

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Babybay was the only widow to truly gap ans in s3

tawdry hamlet
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it was either Sharp or babybay they weren't exactly stacked at hitscan

trim shadow
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but that was about jt

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babybay was degressing and barely holdin on

tawdry hamlet
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season 3 most of the old hitscans like surefour and babybay were barely holding on loll

trim shadow
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weird was s3 rlly the year all s1 players fell off

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or do we blame blizzard

tawdry hamlet
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that was the year to me that the game evolved past the point of aim being able to carry you

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at least to me

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at the pro level that is

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in ladder aim go brrr

trim shadow
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from fps to moba UY99_codm_kek

tawdry hamlet
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like early on when aim and hitscan were so strong players like logix, sayaplayer, pine, looked like total gods

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but now that positioning and brain evolve

trim shadow
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what a ancient name..fuckin sayaplayer

tawdry hamlet
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one of my favorite hitscans

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solo carrying the mcdonalds florida colors

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lmao

trim shadow
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i guess its like sidedhow says the game evolved and players didnt

tawdry hamlet
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without him that team was a real pile

trim shadow
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but like we spent a whole year of dps not grinding

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so dps were scrimming 10 hours a day on BRIG

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that would rust out any fps players

tawdry hamlet
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that was a tragedy, it was either go to brig jail or play zarya

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lmao

sullen berry
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Do you think you could make it to masters if you traveled back in time to 2016?

tawdry hamlet
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I often wonder

tiny pollen
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i could make it to owl

sullen berry
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Make your way to the pro scene just from your massive brain knowledge of the future metas

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And hero buffs and nerfs, would you change how you played the game?

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And take up a different role to carry

trim shadow
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probably

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when i actually played ow i was a support main so

stuck radish
tiny pollen
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i would become fs or ot

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mt is awful role

earnest leaf
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if you go back into time the best heroes to probably focus on would be main tanks

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Become a better rein/winston than anyone else out of the gates

tiny pollen
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team wouldnt know how to play how you are playing

stuck radish
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you could become a tank player then retire at the end of OWL s2

devout path
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Put fearless in 2016 gets accused of using cheats

earnest leaf
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imagine this

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put leave into 2016 overwatch

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on tracer

tiny pollen
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vac ban

devout path
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God no

stuck radish
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put all of shanghai into 2016 overwatch

earnest leaf
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Tracer is largely unchanged

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so it would work well still

devout path
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More like put all of Shanghai into 2018 overwatch league

earnest leaf
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if you took any of the top 5 owl teams this season into s1 of owl they would win it all

tiny pollen
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if u took vancouver

stuck radish
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what if you put valiant into s1

tiny pollen
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they would win it all

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imo they would be top 3

stuck radish
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valiant would end up at around mid tier imo

earnest leaf
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valiant would still be shit imo

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the dps would carry more games though

devout path
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Paris would probably roll everyone

stuck radish
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toronto defiant overwatch league champions

devout path
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Yes

earnest leaf
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I don't remember enough of S1 to decide on that ngl

devout path
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I mean

earnest leaf
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I watched very little of it

devout path
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Heesu would probably get banned

stuck radish
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most dps in s4 would get banned

devout path
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Yeah

earnest leaf
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peak ans widow in s1

devout path
earnest leaf
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I lost

stuck radish
devout path
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S1 was a lot of widow too

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That’s scary to think about

stuck radish
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just put peak ans striker into s1

devout path
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They can literally 2v6

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Ans creates space by existing

stuck radish
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eh

devout path
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Striker one clips everyone cuz they don’t know proper movement or positioning

stuck radish
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give them peak viol2t too and maybe

devout path
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People forget how bad season 1 players actually were

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Or maybe I’m overestimating the difference

stuck radish
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some OWL team should time travel back to may 24th 2016

fallen turret
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Let’s goooooo

humble yarrow
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Hold up

north relic
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cursed

devout path
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WHAAAAAAAT

humble yarrow
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I just saw this earlier

digital cloud
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We could have kept happy and jjanggu and Joobi and had a stacked team now

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But nooooooo

humble yarrow
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Korean team?

digital cloud
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Fucking drop everyone but danteh

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And Jake

fallen turret
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We kept piggy

digital cloud
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And piggy yeah

jade steeple
digital cloud
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He is the reason pelican is even here

humble yarrow
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They are making a Korean team

digital cloud
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I was sort of just ignoring that because of it but yeah

fallen turret
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Also we’ve got junkbuck still

tiny pollen
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jake to atlanta

digital cloud
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At least we have piggy

tropic herald
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i mean houston could actually be really good

digital cloud
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Sure

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Right

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Houston good lmao

balmy wolf
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when was Houston ever good

worn falcon
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piggy, pelican, danteh, coachplayer jake and which other?

next mesa
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Danteh gonna be permabenched

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Jake isn't good

tropic herald
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houston fans being more insufferable than dallas fans when you tell them their team could be good

worn falcon
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jake is a chad

digital cloud
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No one else pretty sure

next mesa
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Piggy Pelican is a really really solid start tho

digital cloud
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Oh come on empathy

worn falcon
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Jake gonna bench piggy to play tank

digital cloud
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We had a real mt and hitscan for the first time ever and dumped them

tropic herald
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you guys just got the roty be happy

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why settle for jjanggu and happy when there is better on the market

next mesa
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tru if u get muze and ans or something

digital cloud
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Did you see jjanggu rein

jade steeple
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Also just because they aren’t on the team currently doesn’t mean they aren’t coming back. Unlikely but not for sure

digital cloud
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He is too good to pass up for maybe getting someone else

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He has potential, we never had that before

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We also literally have a history of gunning for good players and then not getting them

tropic herald
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theres clearly something up w jjanggu for why he just got benched that hard we dont know what it is but it seems like it was enough for houston to explore other options

digital cloud
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It is because houston makes poor decisions

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We literally put in coach Jake all the time

tropic herald
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i think this method of thinking is not good

digital cloud
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Probably

worn falcon
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inb4 jjangu doing a yveltal

tropic herald
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if the decision doesnt make sense to the outside its probably bc you dont have enough info

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lets just assume that coolmatt and junkbuck are right

hybrid sand
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^

digital cloud
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What else am I gonna do, demand a page of answers from them?

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We have a history of doing dumb shit

worn falcon
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yes

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moan at their twitter

digital cloud
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No reason to think it isn’t dumb shit

tropic herald
jade steeple
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Stop moaning here and do it at their Twitter yeah

hybrid sand
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plz dont moan at the twitter

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smm are people too

jade steeple
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Sorry

digital cloud
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I don’t like Twitter there are too many sad philly fans

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At least I am not a philly fan

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That would be awful

hybrid sand
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facts

tropic herald
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thats like saying shanghai are gonna sign a bunch of bottom players bc thats what they did in s1, its a completely different staff team

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just put trust in them

hybrid sand
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ya, i heard the current outlaws staff is pretty goated

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and handsome

worn falcon
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you know which team has been radio silent since they dropped?

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Valiant.

digital cloud
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No one likes them except Tay

tropic herald
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valiant moment

worn falcon
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not a post or anything since 14 august

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not even tokens promo or silly stuff

tropic herald
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i bet they got rid of the smm once the season ended for them

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one less person to pay

digital cloud
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That org hates ow

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Surprised more haven’t bailed

worn falcon
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imagine if Valiant is sold to Tencent

digital cloud
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We could be so lucky

worn falcon
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and Tencent spends the monies on chinese players

digital cloud
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People are still gonna hate them forever

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All my homies hate valiant and Vancouver

jade steeple
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Why Vancouver

worn falcon
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shitty org

digital cloud
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What they did to Runaway

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It ain’t right man

worn falcon
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theyre responsible of runaway imploding

digital cloud
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It just ain’t right

worn falcon
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not even providing a translator guy to them

digital cloud
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Plus they screwed over ryujehong and fissure too

fallen turret
digital cloud
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Which I guess for most people probably isn’t as bad but I think it sucked as well

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At least we have a good dps now

tropic herald
digital cloud
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Well yeah but he still got screwed over

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Plus he is my favorite player of all time so I’m biased

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And fissure looked like he might actually fit a team for once

vagrant cargo
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Jehong was so overrated pre OWL it was crazy

digital cloud
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He was really good for his time

vagrant cargo
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on ana

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his Zen was never good

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And that got exposed in S1

jade steeple
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His time was like one season

vagrant cargo
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his prime wss S2

digital cloud
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He had apex

vagrant cargo
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that was the best jehong

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S2 jehong was a good mid table flex supp

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apex S4 he already began to drop off

worn falcon
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ryujehongsexy was the Ana like Miro was the Monke

jade steeple
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Also grike when you’re talking about outlaws you seem to use the word “we” a lot. Are you like apart of the staff or something? Just a thought on my head that was floating around

worn falcon
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then we got the new gen which were insane at Ana like Twlight

digital cloud
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I use we as a way to feel a part of a team I like

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I know people in the org but am not a part of it

jade steeple
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Ok

digital cloud
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I suppose it is more a physical sports affectation than an esports one generally

next mesa
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jehong made the flex support role

digital cloud
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Looking back on it, sure he wasn’t as good as people now but he basically made Ana a cool thing for people. He was like the og support.

vagrant cargo
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Sure

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but his OWL peak wasnt good

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or rather not outstanding

next mesa
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ohh

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yeah that I agree

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he was pretty mid

twin bloom
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Jehong got gapped by rawkus

tropic herald
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well rawkus won owwc so hes my 🐐

twin bloom
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In OWL

worn falcon
vagrant cargo
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anyways

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u know who was underrated

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neko

tawdry hamlet
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😎

next mesa
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why settle for joobi

tropic herald
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wasnt neko toxic, did he ever drop that

next mesa
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also i hope jake doesnt play this year

vagrant cargo
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yes

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He wss my toxic king

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him and envy

tropic herald
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toronto s2 moment

worn falcon
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like asking tracerkek

vagrant cargo
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bullying agilities

worn falcon
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fucking

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asking

vagrant cargo
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like the twink he is

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smh

tawdry hamlet
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jehong was established from csgo already and played like a csgo player in terms of movement LETSFUCKINGGOOOO

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slow ass aim

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400 4.33 babyy

next mesa
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jehong's style of switching dpi was gonna be outdated

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owl too fast

tawdry hamlet
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THE DPI switch

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to hit the sleep darts lmaooo

next mesa
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he's adding another action that he needs to do before he turns around and sleep

tawdry hamlet
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his turning takes forever because his low sense so he adds a switch that buffs his dpi when pressed so he can speedy turn around lmaooo

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just learn a slightly higher sense

worn falcon
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the other day, i was watching using the confirming nano on twilight

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which surprised me

tawdry hamlet
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hmm I mean when you play at a level where nano can make or break

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it might be important to confirm

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and not waste ig

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idk

worn falcon
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like, there this option on ana, where the game ask if you want to drop nano on certain player or cancel.

next mesa
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its just 1 more button to press right

worn falcon
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yeh

next mesa
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i never used it

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but i thought it was pretty cool

worn falcon
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and Twilight uses it

next mesa
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like cant you time the nano better that way

tawdry hamlet
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you can nano more accurately but not as fast to get it off

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hmm

next mesa
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like literally when your target hits critical then you nano

tawdry hamlet
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I wonder how much that actually affects his gameplay

worn falcon
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just have fast fingers, ez

tawdry hamlet
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so even if they didn't implode

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why did runaway titans make weird off season changes before they did

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like their signings after s2 were weird

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like tf did fissure and ryujehong add to vancouver

worn falcon
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well

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they had tizi

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but i guess fissure was better rein/monkey

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As for twilight/ryu no idea

balmy wolf
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Pelican f

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Shit

trim shadow
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NO absolutely not

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god fucking dammit houston

tawdry hamlet
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genuinely tho playing ryu over twilight in any reality would be wild

trim shadow
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how much did they offer him

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technically

noble nexus
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I believe Halo said for Vancouver fans to not get their hopes up or something along those lines

trim shadow
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houston just shot the first shot

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so every signing after this

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is bonkers

wild cape
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PELICAN ON HOUSOTN PELICAN ON HOUSYON

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THIS IS OUR SEASON

raw ermine
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HOUSTON ON PELICAN? WHOA

trim shadow
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UY99_codm_kek gg atlanta

digital cloud
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Gird your loins for our next epic failure

next mesa
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fissure was their MT and jehong is there for fan market + double fs meta

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also they can fuck around and just put him on ana when its an ez game

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just for the fans

digital cloud
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Kinda like with faker nowadays

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Come here gramps, it’s your turn on the controller today

balmy wolf
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Man

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Man

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Idk man

earnest leaf
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atl fans in shambles because they won't get deadlifted by pelican/iris anymore

tropic herald
digital cloud
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Man all these animal names know each other

tropic herald
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but the backline seems sick

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and kai

earnest leaf
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We'll have to see how UV/Ojee translate into owl

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For all we know they're a top 5 support duo

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or just mid tier

tropic herald
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i think they are the safest bet of AT

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they should at least

digital cloud
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Western back line top 5?

tropic herald
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AT LEAST

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be mid tier

digital cloud
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Mid tier more likely

tropic herald
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but we also have no idea what any of the roles will actually play like

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so its hard to tell

earnest leaf
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My guess is roles will turn to more aggressive favored

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so people like leejaegon or viol2t will do well on support

digital cloud
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Aggression is pretty much always favored, just not feeding level

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Like fdgod

tropic herald
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fd didnt feed

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shock just sucked

earnest leaf
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true

digital cloud
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Gasp

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How dare you

earnest leaf
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Still sad it took shock until playoffs to start to gel together

tropic herald
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how dare i be reasonable

digital cloud
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If you weren’t a mod you couldn’t get away with this

trim shadow
next mesa
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they should at least be mid tier

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UV is at least crimzo level and ojee is way better than joobi

digital cloud
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You’ll all see, Joobi is going to be picked up and be a great support one day

balmy wolf
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UV best fs

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Ojee best ms

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We win next year

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Also gator best mt ow2

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U have no chance

trim shadow
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yes im wishy washy between hating and repping my home city

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thats just how atlantians are

hot onyx
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Joobi to Shock

next mesa
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why would atlana pick up joobi when they have ojee

twin bloom
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Lucio brig meta

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Ow 2

trim shadow
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the amount of times ive seen ojee go to x team UY99_codm_kek

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Plus brads still coaching and its sum shit he would pull

twin bloom
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Brad goat coach

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No other person would have signed gator to OWL in 2018

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Lmao

trim shadow
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speaking of coaches

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gunba as the head coach of florida

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western florida?…its been a while

twin bloom
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Hope florida signs good western players this time

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And not apply tviq mcrgravy

next mesa
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so who are the good ones

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crimzo reiner hydron

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aspire KaplanThink

trim shadow
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read that as aspen i was like aspen?

twin bloom
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Houston core?

next mesa
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Crimzo Masaa

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Sounds solid

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Ehhh

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houston

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only good western player

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is like

twin bloom
#

Danteh crimzo

next mesa
#

danteh

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but

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he's staying

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Reiner and then get False/Coluge and then S9mm Hydron Crimzo Masaa

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solid TracerThumbsUp

trim shadow
#

gator hawk kai ???(possibly aspire) ??? ??? masaa

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most teams would go for a 3rd dps

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unless im@stupid

next mesa
#

Gator Hawk are in atlanta

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yeah sign aspire

blazing trout
#

Pelican and Danteh the unstoppable dps duo

trim shadow
#

depends on who kai gets paired up with KV95_codm_pepethinking

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kai alone puts atlanta outfront until Nero Glister find spots

#

and others

next mesa
#

kai dude he's been baiting on twitter that he might go to london idk

willow drum
#

I feel like

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idk

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I feel like Shock are just insta

#

giants

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now that they have signed proper

#

like they sign a solid ms and they're probably at least top 3 na

weak bolt
#

What other animal tanks can Outlaws pick up

willow drum
#

super

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cause hes a beast-

twin bloom
weak bolt
#

I was thinking Rhyno, but thats a good shout too

tropic herald
twin bloom
weak bolt
#

15 now apparantly, but yeah lol

tawdry hamlet
#

Lolll Rhyno da baby

digital cloud
#

Isn’t rhyno like 9 or something

#

Dude is more screwed than patiphan and sugarfree

tawdry hamlet
#

Tr33 has peaked like 2nd or 3rd in contenders and he is only 14 iirc

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Yeah tr33 was born in 2007 lmao

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Rip

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He got second place in gauntlet na at 13 😤

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Radical broski

#

Didn't sugarfree do that too

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Second place in gauntlet at 13?

#

Hey he did do that, that is funny

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Both 13 year old players both got second in gauntlets when they were 13

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Oh I guess Rhyno was on that team too

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Seicoe Onigod dps lineup 😤

tacit skiff
tropic herald
mortal cipher
#

that was unexpected

earnest leaf
#

where the fuck did slasher even go

mortal cipher
#

who knows

willow drum
#

bruh how old is rhyno

#

mans younger than I and fvking pro

earnest leaf
#

like 15

turbid cargo
#

I wonder who they traded?

raw ermine
#

its money

turbid cargo
#

Ahh

raw ermine
#

not players

#

yeah

#

check the comment section

turbid cargo
#

Ohh

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Ok

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Danteh Pelican duo?

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Could be interesting

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

truly flexible, and insane

turbid cargo
#

Yea, Houston’s Dps and coaching looks good, and piggy is pretty cracked at playing off tanks, if they get a good main tank player and a star support line, Houston could be even better than this year

earnest leaf
#

outlaws honestly should just get the ex ATL supp line

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or get iris/moth

somber latch
#

honestly yeah

#

the only problem is that moth is expensive (i think)

tawdry hamlet
#

Iris would be big for them

#

Same Astro or Moth as well

somber latch
#

quick question, why is merit being played in the finals and not kilo (contenders)

earnest leaf
#

Kilo is hard hitscan right?

#

My guess is merit just played the heroes they needed

tacit skiff
#

Moth overrated tbh

tawdry hamlet
#

he didn't play for one season because of skewed brig and now he overrated

#

rip

#

moth mercy best mercy ever 😍

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s3 moth mercy LETSFUCKINGGOOOO

#

so goooood

tacit skiff
#

moth simp

tawdry hamlet
#

he is also very valuable for his igl skills RadicalBroski

tacit skiff
#

so valuable

#

paid to sit on bench

#

the glads sure didn't get a return on investment

earnest leaf
#

Moth is a super good lucio/mercy and an average brig

#

Very meta dependant

earnest leaf
#

like I said

#

dpei fucked over moth

trim shadow
#

i feel like dpei’s team carried him more then he carried them..but thats up for debate

noble nexus
#

Not even debatable lmao

#

That’s a fact

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Dpei dogshit

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Moth is also for sure a top MS but his worst hero is brig and skewed is the best brig in the world so he got fucked over really

trim shadow
#

speak of da fuckin devil dpei is on for 5v5 overwatch

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and i just got a feelin

#

glads will be hot shot

tawdry hamlet
#

I am just saying the fact someone who was arguably the best ms in the world for a season is now called overrated because he literally didn't play is a bruh moment

trim shadow
#

with bird gone moth gone and muze

#

this is a aero situation

tawdry hamlet
#

nah bro kevster is going to 1v1 the universe and win the world because he is the best dps to ever touch a mouse and keyboard

#

according to glad fans

noble nexus
#

Nah glads still in for a decent chance I reckon

tawdry hamlet
noble nexus
#

Assuming they make atleast some effort with pickups

tawdry hamlet
#

man I can't believe oge retired before his redemption arc running it back with lag

noble nexus
#

I’d have given up all hope if he genuinely went to glads this off season

tawdry hamlet
#

honestly looking at where past glads players are now it is pretty crazy the amount of big names they have signed

trim shadow
#

honestly that probably is dpei’s plan

#

let kevster go ape shit

#

leave situation but in the west

tawdry hamlet
#

LAG or Chengdu should pull a Cleveland Lebron moment and just let the player build the roster around them lmao

trim shadow
#

Kevster the second coming of Peak Profit

tawdry hamlet
#

like hey Leave you are insane here is the gm role

#

and see what happens

trim shadow
#

well with leave and jinmu still signed

noble nexus
#

Wouldn’t surprise me honestly

trim shadow
#

absolutely nothing can stop chengdu

#

they are making the mid supports mid tanks work

#

hell gaga might get his form back with it just being him as the sole tank

tawdry hamlet
#

in fairness gaga and the support line are still far above mid

noble nexus
#

Fr

earnest leaf
#

give leave a better dps partner

#

not a two trick

#

smh

noble nexus
#

Mmonk is insane and gaga had a decent season overall

trim shadow
#

well it depends on how the off season goes for nisha and monk since they have moments of brilliance and then moments of chengdu

tawdry hamlet
#

Jinmu needs to learn new heroes and they need an actual flickscan lmao

#

so leave can play flex

#

and stop having to play ashe

trim shadow
#

good lord a ashe rework

#

what will that look like

tawdry hamlet
#

they never seemed to fill the hitscan role last year they just kept trying player after player

noble nexus
#

Do they not have Jimmy and tarocookie tho

north relic
#

Jimmy get consistent challenge

noble nexus
#

Aren’t those both hitscan players

tawdry hamlet
#

they do, they just are both mid afffff

noble nexus
#

Lmfao

north relic
tawdry hamlet
#

crazy to think kaneki played over leave in their showmatches

#

as the new lets show our big new signings

#

and then he turned out like that

#

crazy to think mykaylee and kaneki made owl tbh

trim shadow
#

i feel betrayed by kayle

tawdry hamlet
#

me too lmaoo

trim shadow
#

kayle recked in the showmatch but fall on his ass in the season

#

fuckin s1 seoul vibes

tawdry hamlet
#

in his showmatch he was looking like Happy in the Houston Shock game

#

and then in the season he looked like happy in regular season kek

#

but no he looked crazy coachable and like he would be a great addition to choi and eileen

#

and then he wasn't

#

lmao

trim shadow
#

i blame guangzhou’s coaches more then kayle..hell who even gets the blame for the charges shit season

noble nexus
#

Houston and signing inconsistent hitscans kek

tawdry hamlet
#

s3 linkzr had his moments ok

#

smh

#

no respect for dinkzr

noble nexus
#

So did happy

#

Smh

tawdry hamlet
#

but honestly I think Linkzr could have had a better owl career than he did maybe

#

but idk

noble nexus
#

Well the vanc move was just for money

tawdry hamlet
#

same with Logix, I think if the skill floor wasn't raised so much players like Logix and Linkzr could have stuck around but what was mid in s3 was the bottom in season 4 so it was hard for them

trim shadow
#

honestly houstons season is a sad tale of having the talent but never finishing the games

tawdry hamlet
#

like in season 4, no fucking way that valiant roster is top 5 like it was for a bit in s3

noble nexus
#

Also do we think the western teams sign aspire after his season on Toronto?

raw ermine
#

mayhem?

tawdry hamlet
#

now that the gates are open and all na hitscans can be signed and not just whoever is best on short notice idk

#

I imagine others will get picked first

#

since aspire is really good but so is iced WICKED

noble nexus
#

I feel like aspire is pretty proven tho right?

trim shadow
#

the market is flooded with talented dps suprisingly

noble nexus
#

Like coming into Toronto under those circumstances and performing that well must mean something

tawdry hamlet
#

Aspire is proven but allegedly there is even better talent than him in na contenders and he was just grabbed as emergency

#

makes me wonder

#

I hope he sticks around though

#

he is definitely owl worthy

noble nexus
#

100%

tawdry hamlet
#

he held his own against both glister and yaki WICKED

noble nexus
#

I just figured he’d be one of the least risky western dps to pick up

tawdry hamlet
#

granted that was during mayhem and shocks struggle times

#

but still

#

hehe

noble nexus
#

I mean he dunked in glister during junkertown

tawdry hamlet
#

that game glister was so boomed lmao

#

every single time he peeked he just insta died

noble nexus
#

I mean that map in particular

tawdry hamlet
#

yeah I meant that map

#

then shock became normal again

#

lmao

noble nexus
#

He cleaned his act up afterwards

#

I love glister tbh

tawdry hamlet
#

Glister when he remembers nobody on Dallas is countering his Dorado widow

#

lmao

#

he just farmed

noble nexus
#

If glads hadn’t kept dpei I’d want him on glads but he def wouldn’t peak with dpei coaching

#

That dorado map was so fun to watch

tawdry hamlet
#

wonder who will fill birdring shoes

#

wonder who will fill most of la shoes

earnest leaf
#

Glister is a good candidate imo

#

he can fill the hero pool gap

tawdry hamlet
#

nah bro they gotta get ta1yo 🙏

#

they like picking up flex dps from countries who are barely represented in the league after all

earnest leaf
#

apparently ta1yo was popping in scrims

#

but after his houston map

noble nexus
#

Yeah I think his hero pool fits super well but if he doesn’t hit his peak under crusty tf is dpei gonna do

earnest leaf
#

we all know what happened

tawdry hamlet
#

Houston Map unfortunate

#

THE Hydration Mei

hollow bough
#

huh, pelican to houston. interesting

tawdry hamlet
#

Striker to replace birdring blackdevil

#

could be so deadly

#

striker to replace happy would be so deadly as well I would scream with and without the s

somber latch
tawdry hamlet
#

but that begs the question, was season 3 striker better than season 3 kai

#

hmm

earnest leaf
#

depends, they ran different heroes mainly

#

s3 kai was 90% cree/ashe/widow

#

kinda like ans

tawdry hamlet
#

oooh woops my brain dead I meant season 4 season 3 shax played tracer over kai

#

heh

#

was the half season striker played better than Kai

earnest leaf
#

still hard to say ngl

earnest leaf
#

Shock were fumbling hard early on and so were atlanta

tawdry hamlet
#

Iced and Nos praydge

#

and yeah both had rough starts

#

at that point in time I wonder who was playing better

#

Striker coming back to flickscan from tracer looked just as good as ever but Kai is Kai

next mesa
#

When did striker play flitscan except cree

#

Flic

tawdry hamlet
#

he played ashe iirc in s4

#

so hype

somber latch
#

best tracer in the world at the time

tawdry hamlet
#

yeah s3 can't really compare because diff heroes I meant s4 praydge

trim shadow
#

oo right

#

striker is returning

tawdry hamlet
#

did xzi ever confirm a return or just t2 for funs

trim shadow
#

no not dominetaly

#

just rolled into it

tawdry hamlet
#

I miss when shock played musical chairs

trim shadow
#

i miss when shock just sent it

#

and won fights that were impossible

tawdry hamlet
#

I totally forgot violet played echo that game lmao

tacit skiff
#

who owns lav

noble nexus
#

immortals right?

#

yeah immortals still

somber latch
#

now they co own it

#

with a chinese esports org (i think)

next mesa
#

on paper they fully own it

tawdry hamlet
#

the chinese org was managing it

#

like how luminosity runs titans but doesn't own it

#

but immortals the corporation owns the spot itself

somber latch
#

oooh

#

i was bored and there isnt a meme channel

next mesa
#

dont make me cri

#

🥲

somber latch
#

🥲

tawdry hamlet
devout path
#

wanna know what isnt cringe?

#

my bqb and yaki fanfic

somber latch
#

that was some unholy reading

devout path
#

its emp ceritfied

somber latch
#

cringe

devout path
#

ur cringe

somber latch
#

so are you

devout path
#

bet you couldnt write a better one

somber latch
#

why would i want to

devout path
#

cuz it was beautiful

somber latch
#

it was some unholy eyebleach and i wish to delete my memory

devout path
#

why\

#

it was good

somber latch
#

sometimes the line between satire and being fully serious is blurry

#

this is one of those times

noble nexus
#

nah she's being 100% serious and I couldn't agree with her more

next mesa
#

lily send it

somber latch
#

in my defense all i got were 2 images sent by a skeleton

#

aight its been 3 minutes

#

how long will it take

trim shadow
gusty rampart
#

Immortals better pull their shit together

devout path
next mesa
#

Oh Jesus fuckin christ

devout path
#

its beautiful

noble nexus
#

it's a masterpiece honestly

tropic herald
#

It's Grand Finals. The Titans are stomping, and the Shock look lost. Vancouver go 3-0 up in the series. Just then, the lights dim. Out of the shadows, a man appears. He walks up to Striker and throws him across the arena. It's Mykl. The No.2 Tracer has returned. Shock lose 4-0

worn falcon
#

Striker to Toronto with heesu and smurf

#

Ez

gusty rampart
#

Smurf is going to Seoul

#

Yaki to Defiant

worn falcon
#

Why wasting everything in Seoul

#

Pepehands

gusty rampart
#

If JJoNak goes to Seoul, Roar On is going in the bio

somber latch
#

jjonak sbb

#

profit gesture

#

super choi

devout path
#

yes

somber latch
#

and so on

#

its still kinda cheesy to me though

somber latch
plush grail
#

Empathy is Mr bandwagon

tacit skiff
novel owl
#

OH MY GOD

#

WTF

hot onyx
#

Hey remember when Outlaws beat Shock?

#

That’s about to be a lot more frequent

somber latch
#

its a 2 v 3

#

not fair

tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah idk why grike is mad they dropped happy and Joobi like I get being mad about jjangu but happy was never consistent enough to bring them a title and Joobi needed too much work and I assume they want to win now

#

And getting pelican 😈

#

If they can acquire the Atlanta support line they could be scary

earnest leaf
#

I'm honestly super excited to see rookies on shock

#

The only rookie they have ever played iirc was ans

#

and ta1yo but he rarely played anyways

vagrant cargo
#

Viol2t

somber latch
#

hasnt viol2t been there since season 1

#

at least season 2

somber latch
vagrant cargo
#

yes

#

He was a S2 rookie

hot onyx
#

Wasn’t Smurf a rookie as well?

somber latch
#

yeah

#

he was

#

hb architect

vagrant cargo
#

Archi was Signed mid season 1

willow tartan
#

will we see teams be good

#

fk man i just want seoul to do good

next mesa
#

🙏🙏

#

PlZ

hot onyx
#

Seoul had their chances and blew ‘em both, let one of the three teams that have never sniffed a final have that opportunity

raw ermine
hot onyx
#

Guess Reiner is on Mayhem

#

Bad pickup considering Hydration is on the market smh Albert

gusty rampart
hot onyx
gusty rampart
#

Counter ratio

fallen turret
#

Is sado still good?

last nimbus
#

hes gone beyond his peak

#

but hes still decent

cosmic apex
#

LETS

#

FUCKING

last nimbus
#

yep

#

cool

cosmic apex
#

Hometown finally doing good next season I’m hyped

#

Sucks that dropped JJanggu and Dreamer the only 2 MTs

#

I think outlaws is gonna go offtank comps when OW2 comes out

#

Since piggy is their only tank

#

Def expect the danteh and pelican carry

gusty rampart
raw ermine
#

owo

raw ermine
#

decay happy tracer widow/ashe???

#

whoa

gusty rampart
#

Fun fact

#

Last year, Charge was the team who drawed the most

#

4 draws

humble yarrow
#

Who is Atlanta gonna pick up

#

Crimson maybe?

#

Crimzo

twin bloom
#

No

#

Crimzo mayhem

humble yarrow
#

Did joobi leave. I don't remember

gusty rampart
#

Yes

#

Not that he played

humble yarrow
#

I wonder who else Toronto is gonna pick up

#

Twilight is a good start

next mesa
#

NO WAYYY

next mesa
#

FUCK YEAHHHH

#

LETS GOOO

#

It's over

#

Fury come here buddy

#

Fury join smurf

#

Fury leave justice

#

🙏🙏

#

Oh crap

#

Option exercised

#

😔😔

trail perch
#

That was not the probelm

#

Where r my supports????

#

Please

#

PLease

#

Assassin had a good tracer for ashe tracer

raw ermine
#

NOOOOO, JUSTICE NEED GOOD CONSISTENT SUPPORTS, NOT ANOTHER DPS!!!!

haha, ashe go brrr

trail perch
#

They just never ran decay on ashe or widow...

#

Like ever

#

Ever

#

Like what justice need are coaches and supports

#

The tanks where good

#

The DPS where good

#

You can win owl with that tank and dps line

#

They just needed supports that existed

devout path
#

Why is pelican on Houston

worn falcon
#

Because trade money works

devout path
#

But they have danteh

#

Why do they want pelican too

worn falcon
#

And his buddy piggy

devout path
#

What are they gonna do with danteh

worn falcon
#

Danteh echo pelican hitscan

devout path
#

Omegalul

#

I’d rather danteh hitscan pelican echo

raw ermine
devout path
#

Seoul looking stacked actually

next mesa
#

VINDAIM VINDAIM LET'S GOOO

raw ermine
trim shadow
#

washington justice happy

#

what did i tell yall

#

after pelican houston every signing is gonna be bonkers

sullen berry
#

Man has this guy got a wide pool of cities under his belt

trim shadow
#

mr worldwide happy

#

from china to the capital of the us

sullen berry
#

Man went from playing in LA at blizzard arena s2, then Guangzhou s3 and he loved it so much he came back to Texas and didn't really go #allin of the BBQ there

#

Judging by the one guest appearance in Outlaws content, you would think that he misses home

#

But Justice will suit him if decay is still running the clown show that was s3 Justice

trim shadow
#

so wait jerry died so happy can live

sullen berry
#

Does Jerry look like he's in it for the money though

#

He knows it costs money to do any travel and some form of COVID clearance by signing with an org that will take care of it for him

trim shadow
#

so jerry to seoul UY99_codm_kek

#

jerry has dual citizenship right or is that 37

sullen berry
#

IM37 as someone living in NA

trim shadow
#

ye canadian korean right?

next mesa
#

Smurf Profit Fits Jjonak Vindaim

#

ITS OVER

sullen berry
#

Anyways the top 3 in the West division is barely locked in next season. Dallas can look great but so many people I've talked to predicted the outcome of the playoffs just falling apart for them for a otherwise solid and consistent roster

#

Who else right now is a top NA team without their complete rosters

plush grail
#

damn sucks to see happy going to the justice

#

i liked happy

#

but i fucking hate decay

#

i cant root for happy anymore

sullen berry
#

That's a weird compromise

#

Why not replace Decay

#

Ideally it's just double hitscan they're preparing for with Decay and TTuba

#

O that's right

hot onyx
sullen berry
#

No Jerry will be 100% their tank line, he got this

#

End his career in the blazes of glory that is solo main tank

plush grail
#

FUCK DECAY

next mesa
#

Seoul top 2

#

Seoul was top 3 with gesture and that backline

#

WITH THIS

#

WITH SMURF JJONAK VINDAIM

balmy wolf
#

should i tell him guys?

somber latch
next mesa
#

WHAT

somber latch
#

Tbh idk

balmy wolf
#

seoul is a bottom five team levi

#

designed to fail

#

doomed to be bad

next mesa
#

Sure

#

I'll revisit that next year and laugh at u

#

ATL lost their carry bro

#

It's over

balmy wolf
#

we gained two new

#

got the best fs there is

next mesa
#

Doubt

#

Just best western

twin bloom
somber latch
next mesa
#

Ultraviolet