esports-discussion

[earnest leaf]

Well at least she's prepared for disapointment

[plush grail]

Is it jack?

[north relic]

ur getting catfished by jack

[noble nexus]

??????

yo despite what you might think

I'm not the only glads fan

in the world

[hot onyx]

Wouldn’t surprise me if you were

[noble nexus]

yeah wouldn't surprise me either considering we still have dpei

[north relic]

someone make an unbiased fan tier list

[hot onyx]

Glads had Birdring as the excuse to be a fan now they have Dpei

[north relic]

if smurf joins they get another excuse

[noble nexus]

yeah I mean we still have kevster shu

[hot onyx]

Top 3 worst fans in OWL
1: Shock
2:Fusion
3everyone else

[noble nexus]

true probably

[north relic]

i see a lack of houston and boston

[noble nexus]

we all like to pretend Grike and Lily don't exist

sorry

[north relic]

whats your opinion on paris fans that arent luigi

[hot onyx]

Just because Lily and “💙💛” are the worst one doesn’t put Uprising fans as a whole into top 3, only top 5

[north relic]

do u have an argument for houston

[hot onyx]

Those two spots are most likely taken up by Dragons and Fuel

[hot onyx]

Houston fans have been supporting a mid/bottom 5 team for 4 years in a row, they have a right to be obnoxious

Although that argument could be used for Fusion fans but fuck Fusion fans

[north relic]

can it be made for boston fans

[tawdry hamlet]

Boston fans have had to deal with losing striker, being a bottom tier team, 2 sex scandals, being the unequivocally worst team in all of s3 and being the only team to lose a game to s4 titans

Give them a break 💀

[next mesa]

Oooof

[hot onyx]

Fusion fans have had to deal with 4 finals losses, losing a map to season 4 Valiant, going map 5 with season 1 Dragons and the hope of having a top 3 fdps alongside Carpe only for it to be crushed by a mid/low tier performance

I think Fusion fans deserve that break more than Boston fans but neither should get it

[next mesa]

Seoul fans: championship caliber roster gets crushed year after year with shit coaching

[north relic]

are there any S tier fans

[next mesa]

Hmm

I don't know

[fallen turret]

Vancouver fans

Also charge/defiant fans

[north relic]

didnt know any of those fans existed

other than kenobi

[stuck radish]

there are charge fans?

[north relic]

kenobi

[fallen turret]

These fans best bc there aren’t any to make them not the best

[gusty rampart]

Did think this existed

A girl wanting to talk to you

[devout path]

Ok “jack”

[noble nexus]

:)

[gusty rampart]

Yesterday was FRDWNR Friday

New challenge guys

NYXL not sign 4 DPS this year and sign some more healers and tanks

[willow drum]

Damn why

Korean MIllitary getting everybody

thats good sheeesh

[gusty rampart]

This Korean Military may win Grand Finals this year

Same with Rio Company

[hot onyx]

Yeah because Marve1 Toyou Anamo and Creative make up championship calibre tanks and supports

[hot onyx]

Your mum enjoys talking to me

[gusty rampart]

False

She's told me she dreads your presence

[devout path]

I dread sans’ presence too I don’t blame her

[hot onyx]

“Hey sweetie that Sans guy on your Discord Server is the bane of my existence please stop interacting with him”

[gusty rampart]

Word for word

[hot onyx]

: (

[gusty rampart]

"Maybe if he liked a team OTHER than Fusion, he'd be tolerable then"

[devout path]

When the only girl I know in this chat hates you I don’t think you’re very popular with the ladies

[devout path]

No

Still be intolerable

[hot onyx]

I’m literally only a fan of the team with the 2nd most toxic fan base I’m tolerable

[north relic]

is he really the only fusion fan in this chat

[hot onyx]

@mortal abyss @feral wing

[north relic]

who the hell is jackerco

[hot onyx]

Jacker Co operate with my sexual relationship with your father

[devout path]

Sounds kinda gay

[hot onyx]

Nah socks on no homo

[devout path]

Still sounds gay but with socks

[north relic]

having sex with another male isnt gay

[hot onyx]

^^^^

[devout path]

Sounds like denial

[noble nexus]

yeah that was my excuse for a while too

[hot onyx]

Heterosexual male on male intercourse is a thing you’re just living in 1984 Lily

Smh my head

[devout path]

D

E

N

I

A

L

[north relic]

report for spam

[hot onyx]

On it

[devout path]

Report me to modmail

No one would ever listen to a philly fan anyways

[hot onyx]

Report to your dads office for intercourse 😎

[devout path]

Gay

[hot onyx]

Not gay he’s a hunk and I wear my socks

[devout path]

Gay with socks

[hot onyx]

Socks negates homosexuality

[devout path]

Anti gay force field

[noble nexus]

esports amirite

[hot onyx]

Jayne has to invent it first

[devout path]

This is esports

Being gay is part of esports

[hot onyx]

Muma Moment

[north relic]

ignore the date

[devout path]

I’m banned

[north relic]

yes

[hot onyx]

So I pull up to the office of Lily’s mother Mrs Lily and proceed to lay down on her desk

[devout path]

Mrs lily

[hot onyx]

This is a successful mating tactic used commonly in the 1960s

[north relic]

yea lily's last name is she/her

[devout path]

No my last name is lily

He was right

It’s lily lily legally

[north relic]

we arent talking legal

[gusty rampart]

no wayy

[hot onyx]

She is normally loyal to Mr Lily and vice versa but my seductive prowess is to much for them to handle

[devout path]

X to doubt

[devout path]

Too bad

[hot onyx]

Lily’s parents when they find out that I used my seduction skills to hack into their joint bank account (2019)

[devout path]

My parents are divorced

[hot onyx]

Got a step parent?

[devout path]

No

[hot onyx]

That leaves my opportunities open

[devout path]

No

They’re both dating others

[hot onyx]

Not for long

[devout path]

They are for long

[hot onyx]

Esports now: Dalton still has not been signed by the Shanghai Dragons

In other news I am wearing socks

[north relic]

They're both dating sans*

[devout path]

No

Unless sans is a preschool teacher and a 55 yo man

[north relic]

it links

[feral wing]

?

[hot onyx]

Disguised as a preschool teacher and a 55 year old man*

[north relic]

he was pinging racist people

[feral wing]

cool

[hot onyx]

FIR4E is not racist

As you can tell I was pinging people who are strong enough to handle Mr Lily

[feral wing]

whats the discussion topic

[north relic]

ask sans

no one else knows

[hot onyx]

Discussing sock brands

Personally I believe that thin silk socks cannot be beaten for overall comfort

Whatever the weather they have your back

Or feet

[tawdry hamlet]

I wear them too often and walk holes in them

[hot onyx]

Do you throw them away after they are holed or do you wear them in the same fashion as ripped jeans?

[north relic]

i personally go outside barefoot

[somber latch]

I wear sandals like a normal human being

[hot onyx]

Yeah but do you have sexual intercourse barefoot?

[north relic]

i would never

[hot onyx]

Congratulations here is your official certificate of heterosexuality

[earnest leaf]

I just realized

Titans should get oge

Most likely cheap, and somewhat average

better than getting another changsik or hadi type player

[north relic]

??????????

no one should get oge

titans should get smurf

doesnt mean they will but they should

knowing titans they will get oge though

[earnest leaf]

No good team should get oge

but a budget roster could get him

[tawdry hamlet]

Literally anyone who is mid in my head is instalocked to end their career in Vancouver

Players like slime or oge lmao

[earnest leaf]

im37/na1st/Oge/Lastro/Slime

[barren quest]

OGE ends up being picked up by Charge

[tawdry hamlet]

Lastro, Ansoonjae im37

Yeah

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing Rio considered lmaoo

[barren quest]

Well pick between consistently mediocre or very up and down

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean for me it's either, orisa one trick or mid af with lows

With only 1 tank role chrong is ready to be the greatest captain 🙏😤

All I know is, Rio is not flexible enough to be their main tank coming into next season and they still have no hitscan and two goated flexes

And a solid off tank

[gusty rampart]

BRO

ANDY MILLER LIKED MY TWEET

[north relic]

Which tweet

[stuck radish]

THE tweet

[next mesa]

So what happened with shock

[devout path]

choi retired

[earnest leaf]

Everyone is gone

Choi retired to do military

Viol2t is the only one left

Super still likely stays with them though

[next mesa]

I meant like

I thought smt new was gonna droo

Drop

[trail perch]

no shot

also

Flora Yaki dps duo

thoughts?

I think tis prob the perfect duo

Cause yaki is a proj oriented flex player

and flora is a hitscan oriented flex player

they both play tracer

and between them, cover every hero

[earnest leaf]

I mean why would super not stay

It's a repeat of last year for him

[willow tartan]

to troll his fanbase

[tawdry hamlet]

Literally the only reason I could think of is retire to stream otherwise I have no idea why he'd leave

Unless he wanted to move closer to home I guess

Idk

[willow tartan]

maybe he wants to move in with his SO

[flint kiln]

Nah ow2 is shit so he moving on

[weak bolt]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1449693581392875521

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the Atlanta Reign and Houston Outlaws have supposedly agreed terms for Rookie of the year DPS player Se-Hyun “Pelican” Oh

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 11:07 AM

Atlanta must have some weird ass stuff going on in the background, if Pelican wants to leave, but it just going to Houston instead

[somber latch]

NOOOOOOO not houston

Prob gonna trade peli for danteh

But nero

Eh

[weak bolt]

Doubt Houston would have confirmed Danteh as re-signed for the season if that were true

[somber latch]

Well who else

Houston support is gone

[weak bolt]

Houston probably just spending the cash

[somber latch]

Correct me if im wrong

[weak bolt]

Make Danteh into a Tracer/Sombra one trick basically

[somber latch]

Oh

Idk pelican to houston seems wrong

Id expect something like toronto or somethin like that

[weak bolt]

It adds super confusion to the whole "The player wanted to leave" story Brad was spinning. Most assumed he wanted to go back home

[somber latch]

Yeah its wierd

[weak bolt]

I was expecting him to end up on Philly, based in Korea

[somber latch]

Houston is one of the last places id see pelican go

Nyxl

Philly

Toronto

Even the shock

Is prob where id see hin go

[weak bolt]

NYXL/Philly would keep him in Korea which is what I'd assumed he wanted. Guess it wasn't about his physical location that matterd

I think Atlanta has issues with Korean players. Daco S2, Erster S3, Pelican S4

[somber latch]

What does issues mean

In this context

[weak bolt]

The player wanting to leave

[somber latch]

Ah

[weak bolt]

Pelican has clearly said he wants to leave Atlanta, something must have triggered that. I think most people assumed he wanted to be back in Korea

[somber latch]

Who does houston have rn in dps btw

[weak bolt]

Danteh/Piggy are only players signed

Jake is maybe signed, who knows with him

[somber latch]

Danteh pelican seems wiers

[weak bolt]

I think it'll work. Baring in mind OW2 could totally reshuffle dps. Gives them so many options if they also pick up a pure hitscan dps

Echo Tracer? Covered. Sombra doom? Covered. Pharah Junkrat? Covered.

[somber latch]

Given that doom is reworked maybe sombra doom wont work

Idk

I guess it makes sense

But hard hitscan metas are a problem

Not rn bc its the off season

[weak bolt]

I doubt we'd see much double hitscan meta in OW2, just due to the fact flanking may be some much more powerful

Think you'd likely see Widow + Flanker for example, rather than Widow + Ashe

[somber latch]

Ehat about double sniper

Hanzo widow/ ashe

[weak bolt]

Pretty sure Pelican or Danteh can play Hanzo very well

As long as they pick up a pure hitscan, someone like ANS, they'd have good coverage

[somber latch]

Fair

I guess its fine

[weak bolt]

The idea of Pelican Echo + Danteh Tracer sounds pretty damn scary lol

[sullen berry]

in the left corner

grand finals time

[weak bolt]

Does Contenders have any more events after these finals on OW1?

[sullen berry]

Ilios time

I honestly think that's what bothers a lot of players in contenders

there is no guarantee for contenders next year

unless they really want to go through it and OW1 is still being played during Contenders 2022

seems like media bait to me

[weak bolt]

They'd be better off doing some smaller tournaments to fill the void I guess. Or more general tournaments where OWL players can participate too

[willow drum]

i'm literally

waiting

for shock

to announce new players

hurry it up

u have only like

1 guaranteed player on your roster

[weak bolt]

Thats 1 more than a lot of teams

Off season is long, they aren't going to rush it for no reason

[willow drum]

And Shock has 2 more championships than a lot of teams

Idk man I'm just hyped

Shock released all their players

will they stay dominant with a new roster

so I just want them to announce

[weak bolt]

They weren't dominant last season, so that has already gone

[willow drum]

?

They weren't dominant?

Mate I'm pretty sure being 12-5

and being 4th seed NA

and getting 4th in play offs

is pretty dominant

[weak bolt]

They didn't make it to any tournament or get far in playoffs, that's not being dominant

[willow drum]

They got to 4th

in the playoffs

They got prize money and a title

technically

and the play offs are the most important part

[weak bolt]

they beat Philly and Chengdu, not exactly top teams at that stage

[willow drum]

And they still got 4th

[weak bolt]

It's still not dominant to get 4th in playoffs and not do anything in any of the other 4 tournaments

[willow drum]

Nah that's dominant

Would you say Glads were dominant?

They didn't get any prize money or titles in the play offs

where it MATTERS

[weak bolt]

No Glads weren't dominant at all

Fuel were in NA, and SHD in Apac. Nobody else came close to dominance

[willow drum]

If that is what you mean by dominant

Fuel wasn't.

Fuel wasn't dominant

They didn't dominate the top tier teams in NA

the same way SHD did in APAC

If you're measuring the dominance of teams by comparing them to SHD

Then no team would be dominant

Because SHD rolled every team this season

[weak bolt]

Fuel had secured #1 seed in NA before the 4th tournament even started. They didn't even had to try in countdown cup

[willow drum]

So what?

They cut it close

against

mid to good tier teams

3-2 against mayhem once

and were very close matches

against shock, glads etc etc

I think dominance is obv whole season

Fuel peaked in May Melee

sure, they were dominant there

Rest of the season?

eh

[weak bolt]

You're on full shock copium if you think Shock were dominant this season. They were good, but probably only 3rd or 4th best in NA at most.

[willow drum]

They had a positive map record against Dallas

Did they not?

Yeah, they did

I think there's 2 types of dominance

I should have probably said

[plush bridge]

Oh Look a Mad Shock Fan sad over the fact that his team werent relevent this season omegalul

[willow drum]

being good or making success

[plush bridge]

oh here it comes

[willow drum]

and then theres the shd dominance

which i dont think any team replicated

[willow drum]

Do you think SHD and Dallas were the same type of dominant all season?

[plush bridge]

shock wasnt dominate this season at all

[willow drum]

Thats fair

truth be told no team stood a chance against shd

I think Shock was good this season

as were a lot of teams

[weak bolt]

Read what I said. Fuel were dominant in NA, SHD in APAC.

[willow drum]

You really think Fuel was dominant in NA

after the May Melee/June Joust?

[weak bolt]

They made it to first 3 tournaments as the #1 US seed, and had such a commanding lead overall they didn't even have to turn up to Countdown cup

[willow drum]

NA, not US

just wanted to correct you there even though Canada teams weren't relevant at all

[weak bolt]

NA/US, whatever. Its pretty obvious what was meant

[willow drum]

Shock have been good for 3 years, and they have decided to release all of their players.

So I am waiting to see what they will do next

I think that is a little more fair than calling them dominant

And they've released players who have brought them championship wins in favor of a re build

[weak bolt]

Shock were over complacent in S4 and didn't up their game the same as other teams did. It was clear a change was needed. They also lost a fair amount of coaching between S2 and S4 which needed fixing.

[willow drum]

It was

I'm not that shocked personally about them releasing their players

I'm just excited for what they're going to do with that space

Of course, Toronto have both Heesu and Twilight this year

So that team has my eye as well

[willow tartan]

actually getting domd

L @trail perch

[next mesa]

Dragons more dominant this year than shock was last year

[earnest leaf]

Ngl I don't think so

Shock maintained being at the top through wild meta shifts

Shd got to chill forcing ball sombra most of the year

Maybe a bit of a meme but 3/4 of s3 shock's losses were meaningless

[mortal abyss]

which one wasnt useless

[earnest leaf]

Paris loss

[mortal abyss]

id argue 2/4 cause the 0-3 vs philly meant that they couldnt win the NA div

[earnest leaf]

That loss had little impact

It was a weird hero pool, and shock beat philly to win countdown cup a little bit later anyways

And shock previously 3-0 stomped them not long before

[next mesa]

nah dragons were more dominant

dragons' playoff run was way more dominant

regular season a bit more dominant

as for metas

it was diverse for the whole season

but its just that dragons were so good at ball that they can just run it and win

they created the meta

[earnest leaf]

Ngl the meta didn't overall change much

It always came back to some form of dive with tracer

[next mesa]

There was rush too

and orisa dva

[earnest leaf]

I will say s4 shd was the best dive team of ow1

I just think in rush s3 shock is better, and poke s3 shock is a bit better

[next mesa]

thats fair

although I think that

s3 shock has a great dive if u just put striker on tracer

still not dragons level but close imo

and poke

I think with fate maybe dragons can win

[earnest leaf]

Poke is definetly close

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/yung_ksp/status/1449540824048545792

kai (@yung_ksp)

Announcement soon 👀 https://t.co/OK7gQflpEr

Likes

1366

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 1:00 AM

Why does this guy keep baiting

[tropic herald]

Not surprised at all

[next mesa]

Pelican and Piggy bff

[gusty rampart]

Kai is trying to get clout

It's obvious he's been signed by Reign again

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1449737779471130624?s=21

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the San Francisco Shock have completed the signing of O2 Blast DPS Jin-woo “Kilo” Jung

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 2:03 PM

GGS

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1449737779471130624

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the San Francisco Shock have completed the signing of O2 Blast DPS Jin-woo “Kilo” Jung

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 2:03 PM

FUCK

ping diff

[tropic herald]

No?

[next mesa]

im just kidding

I was like 30 seconds late

anyways

SHEEEEEEEEEEESH

Kilo 🕺

[willow tartan]

???

no fuckin what

[tropic herald]

Kilo is sick

[willow tartan]

wtf

[next mesa]

getting th eband back together

[willow tartan]

shock is going to start collecting the infinity rookies

[next mesa]

viol2t was on o2 ardeont

wait does this mean

Proper to shock

😱

[willow tartan]

and pelican is getting traded

just sayin

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1449738440724078604?t=gVfpEoaBmDOgjTa6s07HUg&s=19

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the San Francisco Shock have completed the signing of O2 Blast DPS Dong-Hyun “Proper” Kim

Likes

101

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 2:05 PM

GGS

FUCK

[next mesa]

OH MY GOSH

ITS OVER

its over

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1449738876021530632

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the San Francisco Shock have completed the signing of O2 Blast Support Se-Jin “FiNN” Oh

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 2:07 PM

AND FINN

WAIT

WHICH TANKS ARE THEY SIGNING

CUZ JINBUN IS INELIGIBLE

KELLAN??

[tropic herald]

Which O2 tanks are there

[willow tartan]

miller's son upset that shock didnt win so he asked daddy to buy up o2 blast

[tropic herald]

Bc when they said getting the band back together they must mean O2

[next mesa]

yakpung LOL

yakpung was on o2 when viol2t was playing, and when proper was playing

[willow tartan]

so where is super going then?

cause this basically guarantees he's not getting re-signed

[next mesa]

super the chad leader leads rookie proper to a title

[tropic herald]

Yakpung to Shock 😼

[next mesa]

its strange

no ms yet..

yet they sign finn

when they already have viol2t

Benching Finn is a huge waste ima be honest

man's cracked

[tropic herald]

@forest raven

Fuck you

[next mesa]

shock really just said "ayt ima just go ahead and yoink the best contenders team"

[forest raven]

Huh

[tropic herald]

Read up

[next mesa]

bro

ur shock

fuck u

my ProPro dps duo dream

;-;

[forest raven]

Wait Shock got O2?

[next mesa]

;-;

[forest raven]

[next mesa]

yes u bitch

🖕

[forest raven]

Rolled

[raw ermine]

Damnnnn system going in

Sfs

Not system

Autocorrect

[willow tartan]

thank god shock are signing a good roster so i can continue to make fun of them and shit on them and antagonize them

[forest raven]

Crusty, NineK, super, viol2t, O2

[north relic]

Super?

[willow tartan]

i would have had to look for a different team to make fun of if shock went budget

[tropic herald]

Viol2t is O2

[somber latch]

hello im a shock fan

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1449739512368836622

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

A lot of teams are considering double flex support options as well as main support https://t.co/NEEjg237tb

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 2:10 PM

[north relic]

banned

[tropic herald]

Unsurprisingly

[north relic]

Thinking about it zen bap was apparently strong

[willow tartan]

that's why molly was kept :)

[somber latch]

anyway i dont know a lot bout contenders

is kilo "high tier"

[north relic]

Is kilo flex or hs

[willow tartan]

considering he went off from a back to back contenders championship win

[tropic herald]

Flickscan

He’s rlly good too

[somber latch]

huh

[tropic herald]

Ashe Cree Widow

Those kind of heroes

[north relic]

Ans better 😎

[somber latch]

hb finn

[tropic herald]

Finn def good

Just not like

Wowwww

[north relic]

They can threaten to bench Viol2t if he pulls some kings row 1st point shit again

[somber latch]

bro next season bouta be wiild

anyway

does anyone have games with pelican and proper, everybody hyping up the 2 of em together

[next mesa]

Finn is hella good wym bruv

[next mesa]

search like o2blast 2020 finals

[somber latch]

i dont know anything bout contenders

[next mesa]

yea i was talking to empathy

he's the best korean fs this year I think

as for contenders in general

[somber latch]

vs runaway?

[next mesa]

theres uv this year and charon and irony in china

[next mesa]

idk which match but they both play in the playoffs

although I think they lost

but to be fair

they had yakpung on mt

so

dpei did say

o2blast was dps show

[north relic]

What was runaway at that time

[hot onyx]

No they won 2020 season 1 finals

[hot onyx]

Mer1t Assassin Mag Woohyal/F4ze Chiyo Revenge

[hot onyx]

They also had Kalios to balance that out

[next mesa]

oh yeah they won s1

[somber latch]

how would yall rate kilo + proper

[next mesa]

top 3 dps line

actually

top 5

idk how kilo compares to the S tier hitscans

cuz sometimes mer1t does play after him

I think ans is better

but i think kilo can hitscan

i mean sombra*

oops

i forgot

https://www.twitch.tv/avrl

Contenders China going to a map 7

come watch folks

[willow tartan]

automatically makes them better than most teams

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/imAVRL/status/1449742400184721413

AVRL (@imAVRL)

Pack it up fellas. Shock winning 2022 season. https://t.co/bGvUIQsVYQ

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 2:21 PM

tru

[willow tartan]

bilibili win a title challenge (very hard)

[next mesa]

they won like 4 of them this year

LMAO

[willow tartan]

thats different though

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/JinZh42/status/1449747996069883905

O2 YoungJin (@JinZh42)

Arran “Halo” Spake @haloofthoughts
According to multiple sources, the San Francisco Shock have completed the signing of O2 Blast Manager Jin “YoungJin” Zihang as new Toilet Cleaner

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 2:43 PM

LMAOOO

[tiny pollen]

wait why is shock going 2x fs again 😭

[willow tartan]

in case it becomes meta during the season

like this year and last year

[tropic herald]

Better safe than sorry

[tiny pollen]

😭 i just hate seeing cracked players benched

[willow tartan]

yea he shouldve gone to shanghai instead

[devout path]

Ah yes

Should’ve gone to one bench over the other

[willow tartan]

okay fine

to chengdu

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1449693581392875521

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the Atlanta Reign and Houston Outlaws have supposedly agreed terms for Rookie of the year DPS player Se-Hyun “Pelican” Oh

Likes

848

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 11:07 AM

did we miss this?

[next mesa]

no we didnt

cant believe pelican isnt the biggest news

although I dont get this move

Danteh is just gonna be perma benched lmaoo

[noble nexus]

He and piggy are besties apparently

[willow tartan]

yeah wtfs gonna happen to danteh

or what if houston is buying pelican to sell him to someone else gigabrain

[mortal abyss]

Wtf was that 8 map series

[willow tartan]

or actually, if atl are going full western then danteh to reign

[weak bolt]

Danteh can just hard focus tracer sombra. Both could be stupidly powerful in OW2

[willow tartan]

okay true

[weak bolt]

Or for all we know, double flex dps could easily be a meta honestly. Bunch of new hero’s, less tanks etc

[hot onyx]

Houston could just go Pelican Piggy Develop OGE REDEMPTION ARC EPISODE 4 Smurf and sign a support line from Contenders like Finn and Chiyo and call it a day

[willow tartan]

no fk that

smurf to glads

i want that

[hot onyx]

MuZe to Glads

[willow tartan]

MuZe to seoul

[hot onyx]

Philadelphia MuZe-ion

[willow tartan]

perhaps

[noble nexus]

Bro I’m honestly tryna fuckin manifest smurf to glads rn

[weak bolt]

It’s got to be smurf or super surely

[north relic]

isnt nero going to reign though

[willow tartan]

i dont fkn know whats going on in the off season

all i know is that shanghai is going to sign some rookie to replace develop and bench them for the whole year

[weak bolt]

Danteh is staying at Houston, they would not have confirmed him being back with a big announcement otherwise

[willow tartan]

yea that would be a big jebait

[vagrant cargo]

isnt smurf linked w Toronto

[willow drum]

Wait so

Shock just inherited O2...

[somber latch]

Wow great opinion

[somber latch]

Finn is "confirmed" Going to shock

[gusty rampart]

So is Proper

And what's his face

I forgor 💀

[hot onyx]

They have Viol2t bruh how greedy they gotta be

[tepid ibex]

Kilo?

[hot onyx]

What role?

[gusty rampart]

I forgor 💀

[willow tartan]

its kilo...

[hot onyx]

Dude I love what’s his face on unknown role

[gusty rampart]

Yeah

[hot onyx]

Robbed of MVP last year

[gusty rampart]

Fr

[tepid ibex]

Damn you should know who lip is

[willow tartan]

trueing

[gusty rampart]

LIP>>>>>Leave anyday of the year

[hot onyx]

Ok but hear me out

[willow tartan]

leave stealing MVP is the only reason LIP played widow during the grand finals btw

[hot onyx]

Lip AND Leave

On Charge next year

Ez pred

[willow tartan]

they lose cause coaching implodes after stage 1

[tropic herald]

It looks likely but not a guarantee

[hot onyx]

Hey look at this really cool match I found https://youtu.be/PJKUuCs-opk

[willow tartan]

oh yeah that was v sick

[willow drum]

lmao

double fs would be sick

[willow tartan]

chinese boy wins stage title by throwing himself into the enemy team on cybernetic robot hero

[hot onyx]

Imagine having 5 titles and feeling the need to sign the entirety of the most promising kr contenders team just go budget already

Give Dalton a good home Shock

[willow tartan]

5 is all they get

💪

[hot onyx]

0 is all Fusion gets

💪

[willow tartan]

2nd place finish is respectable

[willow drum]

yes.....

yes it is

[willow drum]

Bruh NRG is just too goated

honestly

too much money than they know what to do with

why not throw it at a dying esports

[willow tartan]

good guys fusion letting other teams shine

if they actually tried they would stomp every team

[willow drum]

smh yeah

fusion doesnt care enough to win cause they so good at it

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1449774405748396033

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

He ain’t baiting https://t.co/HfvVn7VGPd

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 4:28 PM

smurf to toronto

[somber latch]

Who dat (not halo)

[raw ermine]

The Adam guy? Part of Toronto's parent company

[somber latch]

Oh yea him

Welp

[tropic herald]

He’s a higher up in Toronto comp

[somber latch]

Toronto is shock 2.0 i guess

Or 1.5

You get the point

So teams that i root for that isnt the shock
2021 shock
Chengdu
Glads
And now toronto

Potentially houston

Depends how fun they are to watch

[sullen berry]

"That's the one where Shanghai won, right" - NA Andys

[weak bolt]

Toronto picking up Smurf is good move, he’s a fan favourite and we know that team likes those

[willow drum]

bro toronto

lowkey looks SICK

Smurf Heesu Twilight?

And theyre going to dissapoint us.

Again.

cause its a cantada team

Cant wait to see proper dominate in owl

[earnest leaf]

I was memeing about shock having proper/striker/yaki dps line

and now they might sign proper

but I guess shock just wants O2

makes me wonder about the tank situation

[tropic herald]

thats what they meant when they bringing back the band or whatever

the tank situation for 02

is tragic

thers like crong

and

[earnest leaf]

o2 tanks not that good?

[tropic herald]

yikes

the of age o2 tanks

the current ones are good but just look at liquidpedia to see the rest

[earnest leaf]

f4ze is 21 who is active on the roster

but the other two are 16

[tropic herald]

f4ze is ehhh

if you could pick up the other two you would

[earnest leaf]

so you're saying they might just commit to super

[tropic herald]

idk

[earnest leaf]

super/viol2t vets to help the new blood

[tropic herald]

they might go for talon tanks too

also supposedly shock have a mjor signing that isnt the o2 peeps

[earnest leaf]

yaki

🙏

[tropic herald]

thats like the only one that would make sense atm

ofc we dont actually know who could be traded to shock

[earnest leaf]

money

[devout path]

viol2t is trade material

[willow drum]

i think kellan is decent ofc

or u could buy crong

is kilo > merit?

or

[tropic herald]

ehh

idk

mer1t kilo n mn3 are all great

[willow drum]

how much did u think propers contract was

[earnest leaf]

many dollars

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1449775975277998084

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

As in Smurf isn’t going to Toronto https://t.co/LlBiJ9FIqj

Likes

155

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 4:35 PM

[noble nexus]

Halo confusing as fuck tbh

so smurf isn't going to toronto?

[raw ermine]

"he ain't baiting" is kinda confusing

as the tweet he's talking about says

[sullen berry]

TIL https://clips.twitch.tv/BloodyJoyousJayRaccAttack-OlH4IAq_1KWlbml4

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/LAGladiators/status/1449789806205030402?s=20

Los Angeles Gladiators (@LAGladiators)

.@moth_ow has been a stoic and strategic leader for our team all season. While we say farewell today, we know your impact on every player will be felt for their entire career.

We wish you all the best of luck in your future endeavors!

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 5:30 PM

[sullen berry]

Going to miss seeing you in orange, grey or purple

[lusty temple]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-high-five-yes-oh-hell-gif-14324160

[weak bolt]

Retirement or new team I wonder

[gusty rampart]

Goodbye Moth

New team lol

[weak bolt]

I could see Moth wanting to move on from OW honestly.

[gusty rampart]

I can't see that

I think he'll compete for a long time

[sullen berry]

One of Canadia's many contributions to OWL

[willow tartan]

Moth is Canada?

[noble nexus]

ya

[willow tartan]

no he was on team USA wasnt he???

wtf

are you lying

but his name is like super american

grant

thats like an america name

10/10

[noble nexus]

he played on a canadian team before owl I thinks

[willow tartan]

no you're fucking lying to me

[noble nexus]

I'm pretttty sure

[weak bolt]

Moth is US, not Canada lol

[willow tartan]

you would hope that team USA is made up of USA players

[weak bolt]

He came to OWL from a Toronto based collegiate team though I believe

[noble nexus]

oh yeah it was toronto esports

[willow tartan]

toronto esports?

the same one?

[weak bolt]

Same one that Nero/Shu/Kruise/Dalton/CHex all played on at some stage

[earnest leaf]

iirc moth is from Minnesota

[noble nexus]

yeah toronto esports has had some huge names

[willow tartan]

see. even the place he is from sounds american

[weak bolt]

Crazy looking at Toronto Esports past rosters lol, Onigod/NotE/Dogman/Axxiom all added to above list

[earnest leaf]

Dalton too I think

[devout path]

bye moth

[next mesa]

NO WAYYY

MOTH GONE

[next mesa]

Axxiom the sexy beast

[willow tartan]

you are surprised?

why the fuck would glads re-sign moth after not playing him for a whole year

[next mesa]

Brig meta

Unless skewed can be good on lucio

[willow tartan]

skewed has time to learn

moth probably hella expensive on his contract as well

for all we know moth gets a welcome back after said contract is renegotiated

[worldly flax]

moth back to sfshock?

[earnest leaf]

Only if they keep super I think

[weak bolt]

Probably wouldnt be a stupid thing to do. Even if you dont overly play Super/Moth, they're super popular with fans

[earnest leaf]

What contenders MT is there that would be able to bench super on most MTS

I'm sure there are some that can easily bench him on winston/ball

wonder about orisa

[weak bolt]

Only downside to Super is you'd expect your new korean talent to comm in English

[earnest leaf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CheerfulCourageousHerringRlyTho-MagW8mVVGxGrYIyK

so shock have a non KR player signed

That could mean western or chinese I suppose?

[sullen berry]

delusional is how i'd put it - I'm just saying it's like Super who was born in Philadelphia not in San Francisco

[willow tartan]

both are in america

[sullen berry]

yeah it took you a while to read it

[willow tartan]

i read it and i re read it and i have no idea what you meant still

moth is american because he is born there

he also represented them in world cup

[tropic herald]

MYKAYLEE

[tiny pollen]

moth and super

[earnest leaf]

wasn't mykaylee dogshit

[tropic herald]

he was

[willow tartan]

mykaylee didnt want to play owl

[tropic herald]

like his ashe was good pre season and that was about it

[willow tartan]

too fragile mental

[sullen berry]

YOOO SIGN MY GUY GUXUE TO SHOCK

[willow tartan]

bait

[frosty shell]

if space leaves glads i am breaking my shield

me i like birdring retires

likes muze retires

likes moth leaves

likes space probably leaving

[raw ermine]

muze isn't retired

[weak bolt]

Space has already said LAG are interested in him, but he's exploring options in FA as sensible

[frosty shell]

oh well he still left glads

[noble nexus]

space isn't probably leaving he's just seeing what offers he gets

also with muze gone you can do what I'm doing and pray for smurf to glads

[tawdry hamlet]

Glads simps in shambles

[noble nexus]

idkkkkkkk

glads keeping kevster shu skewed and prolly space is great

[tawdry hamlet]

The piggy friendship way too stronk

[tawdry hamlet]

And shocks 3-2 against London was dominance? 😏

3-2 against mayhem is far more understandable than 3-2 with London when you have a top roster 😈

[willow drum]

i mean chevkmate on tank....

and dallas was better than shock

dont forget dallas went map 5 against london 2

[willow tartan]

carpe diem > piggy pelican

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/amiller/status/1449811861612875780?s=20

Andy Miller (@amiller)

Ok @SFShock fam. It’s a new day. A new week. Buckle in. I promise u we are going to have some fun. Deep breaths y’all!

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 6:57 PM

[willow tartan]

sounds so... evil

[tropic herald]

just played against fd in qp and he rolled

[hallow token]

real

[sullen berry]

O2Shock

[hot onyx]

only downside to pooper?

[earnest leaf]

Sho2k

[sullen berry]

You're saying that like Atlanta Reign or Houston Outlaws didn't have Koreans speaking english

[hot onyx]

Or Philadelphia Fusion

Or Guangzhou Charge when they had Nero

Or season 1 Valiant with Fate and Kariv

Or the San Francisco Sho- wait a minute

Or the Paris Eternal season 3

Or the Vancouver Titans with Teru Changsik

[trim shadow]

the shock sacrificed glister for proper

[willow tartan]

I want super to be not on shock

to not limit this roster

I want to see them realise their full potential

[hot onyx]

Without Pooper they have Viol2t and-

They could sub in NineK

[gusty rampart]

https://twitter.com/amiller/status/1449813420820160515?t=LNMYqAh5L4b9IiZhnoG9HQ&s=19

Andy Miller (@amiller)

@imAVRL @SFShock I did. I’m fired up. Trying to contain myself. Chris and Crusty always come through!

Likes

106

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 7:03 PM

[earnest leaf]

noice

[gusty rampart]

O2 Blast Shock

[willow tartan]

yes

very epic

[tiny pollen]

jake going to atlanta

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1449832587187347463

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the San Francisco Shock have supposedly re-signed tank player Matthew “Super” DeLisi for the 2022 season

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 8:20 PM

[tiny pollen]

kek

[willow drum]

Hm do y'all think there was a reason they signed Kilo and not Mer1t

[willow tartan]

San Francisco Blast vs Florida Tornado is gonna be my favourite contenders match in OW2L

[willow drum]

ayo superrr

so not full o2

[willow tartan]

mer1t probs signed somewhere else

[willow drum]

prob

where do yall think he is

[trail perch]

Charge

[gusty rampart]

This a W so fucking massive

[trail perch]

That’s prob the biggest L I’ve seen so far

[gusty rampart]

Shut the fuck up

[trail perch]

He’s really fallen off and holding on to him holds the team back

[gusty rampart]

[trail perch]

Also makes their coms worse

[earnest leaf]

it's a W purely because of the marketing they get to continue with

[trail perch]

Cause ofc KR players can com in English

[earnest leaf]

Shock won with a mixed roster two seasons in a row

[trail perch]

But they are def more comfortable comming in Korean

[tiny pollen]

what other mt would they sign lol

[gusty rampart]

Super haters are so annoying

[tiny pollen]

muze?

[trail perch]

Yeah that’s cause they where just better lmao

Muze

Numbing

Junbin*

Kellen

[gusty rampart]

[trail perch]

Not drop Smurf in the first place

[raw ermine]

holy wow super

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/arrival-gif-19490664

[trail perch]

Yeah that’s cause they where just simply more talented than everyone else

Now the leagues caught up

[gusty rampart]

Yeah I think super is bad

[trail perch]

Super isn’t enough of a superstar player to warrant being the only western player

[tiny pollen]

fa

[trail perch]

Most mixed rosters are mixed cause of how nutty the other players are that it would be a loss to not be mixed

Like look at Eileen

[tiny pollen]

whomegalul

[trail perch]

You’re just dumb to whomegalol eileen

[willow tartan]

Guys

Off season is really long

and to comm in game you only need like basic vocabulary

whats to say super cant learn korean in the off season?

[tiny pollen]

super prob knows a decent chunk of korean

[trail perch]

Doubt

X to doubt

[earnest leaf]

super is a lazy fuck

he said he wants to learn korean, but hasn't

[tiny pollen]

oh lol

[willow tartan]

there you go

hes said he wanted to learn the language before

so 100% makes sense that he would be doing it rn

[tiny pollen]

with ow2 it gives time to learn it

[gusty rampart]

Also sound warning

[willow tartan]

what is that clip from?

[gusty rampart]

Spaces stream

[willow tartan]

cool but whats the context

[willow drum]

he made the sigma jump

rock thing

in practice range

iirc

[willow tartan]

sigma rock jump is so stupid

[noble nexus]

yeah it's so easy aha

did it first time aha

[gusty rampart]

I did it first try lol

[worn falcon]

@earnest leaf imagine shock signing moth back

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1449841453232889863

San Francisco Shock (@SFShock)

From -bird noises- to making history with us, @super_OW's career has been an incredible journey to behold, and we're honored to have been a part of it.

Thank you, super for four years of Overwatch League. https://t.co/alw38LCkyv

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 8:55 PM

[trail perch]

HAHA I WAS RIGHT

[north relic]

super resigned

i have been baited

and bamboozled

[gusty rampart]

They're confusing the hell out of people

To specify

SUPER IS BACK

[north relic]

young super

[earnest leaf]

little shits at shock

[trail perch]

Fuck shock

Fuck them

[north relic]

best thing is that the r/cow server said resign when they announced it so i didnt get a heart attack

[trail perch]

I didnt watch the video

I assumed that they dropped him

[north relic]

you predicted he was retiring didnt you

[trail perch]

then i saw the video

Yes

Yes i did

[trail perch]

Cause i didnt watch the video

[willow tartan]

this is troll right?

[tropic herald]

no

[willow tartan]

super is not actually going to play he's just the marketable player poster boy

[tropic herald]

super is gone

ggs

[north relic]

rip super

face of owl gone

[willow tartan]

hope super's korean lessons are doing well

[north relic]

he can say shiba he is fine

is it shiba or shibal btw

[tropic herald]

ssibal

well

[willow tartan]

its neither

cause they dont use the latin alphabet

[tropic herald]

its pronounced the way u type it

[north relic]

do they have different meanings

[tropic herald]

Technically

씨발

[mortal abyss]

The triple bait bahaha

Glad to see supers staying

[weak bolt]

Super staying, Shock 'bringing back the team'. Moth coming soon?

and Striker

[raw ermine]

wouldn't be suprised about moth

striker would be epic

[tropic herald]

I think they meant more about O2

But the fact they aren’t getting chiyo or vindaim is weird

[mortal abyss]

Yeah cause viol2ts from 02

[tropic herald]

Also imagine o2boss in owl

That guy knows some things

[weak bolt]

Not feeling that from Andy honestly, I think it's more they've brought NineK back, Super staying, add in Moth/Striker and you've brought back the team basically lol

[tropic herald]

Getting striker seems like a poor move

What are you gonna do

Bench proper?

[weak bolt]

Would be dumb not to have a backup plan. Wouldnt be first time a hyped up rookie enters season and isn't fantastic

[twin bloom]

Echo tracer

Or run proper flex

Striker HS

Bench kilo

[tropic herald]

I guess they sign striker but that still doesn’t feel right

[weak bolt]

Is Proper's tracer really as cracked as Striker?

[tropic herald]

Idk if his tracer is equal but proper the type of guy you just don’t bench

[earnest leaf]

I've heard him referred as the korean leave

[tropic herald]

That’s probably a good comparison

[weak bolt]

Does Proper play many of the flex heroes? Liquipedia looks mainly hitscan + echo

[tropic herald]

I’m just saying, yeah rookies flop but if there’s gonna be a rookie that won’t flop

[tropic herald]

Hes been playing all the relevant flex heroes this year

[weak bolt]

And we know Shock like to have lots of DPS options. Has there been a season they didn't have like at least 4 dps?

[earnest leaf]

yea think every season they have had 3+ dps

(tbf ta1yo has been one for the last two)

[twin bloom]

Even mei?

[weak bolt]

S2 was like Rascal/Architect/Sinatraa/Striker? S3 Striker/ANS/Architect/Ta1yo/Rascal/ANS? Shock like big dps lineups

[tropic herald]

Oh I didn’t see him play Mei now that I think of it

I’d have to go back VOD surfing

Then again was Mei ever that popular for Korea, I don’t remember her that much this year or I’ve just lost that section of my memory

[weak bolt]

What Shock need now to fill the gap is a Yaki 😄

[earnest leaf]

yes

yaki very good

[mortal abyss]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1449848971179044864

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

@SFShock Denied.

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 9:25 PM

L

[weak bolt]

Yaki/Proper/Kilo and maybe another lesser known talent to develop

[tropic herald]

Yaki Proper Kilo would be better than Striker Proper Kilo imo

[weak bolt]

Agreed, but I suspect Yaki probably wants a team where he starts 100%

[tropic herald]

Yaki doesn’t strike me as a player like that

But ehh

Whatever

[next mesa]

Yes

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/smurf_ow/status/1449851155903696900?s=21

smurf (@smurf_ow)

@super_OW we are enemy now 😦

Twitter · Oct 17, 2021, 9:33 PM

[next mesa]

At least very close

To the point that

[weak bolt]

I just never know how to judge contenders players. It's such a different level of play to OWL

[next mesa]

It's kinda redundant to sign striker

He's been the best contenders player for over a year on the hardest region

Like they won back to back and he was clearly heads and shoulders above everyone

[tropic herald]

Proper da real deal

[earnest leaf]

iirc proper was the better dps very clearly when he played with pelican

and we saw how hard pelican fucked

[next mesa]

Not that clearly like they were both cracked

But in some instances proper did look a bit better

And I think this past year

Proper developed more

He had to play more flex

[raw ermine]

Smurf to glads? 👀

[tropic herald]

Levy

[next mesa]

Because his team had 2 hard hitscans

[tropic herald]

Do you remember if Proper played Mei

[next mesa]

So now he's like a hyperflex

[tropic herald]

This year

I don’t remember it

[next mesa]

This year

I don't remember it either

Hmm

[weak bolt]

or Philly maybe

[next mesa]

I think that means moth

I'm not gonna lie

[tropic herald]

That feels weird but ehh

Cant really cap on Shock until they suck

[next mesa]

How many supports do u take

Like

Above Chiyo vindaim