esports-discussion

[hot onyx]

ESPORTS

[devout path]

He invented esports???????

[hot onyx]

WHAAT

[devout path]

WHAT

[noble nexus]

holy shit how could I miss such an event 😭

[devout path]

THIS IS AMAZING

Can believe he actually fucking did it.

Incredible moment in history

Jayne INVENTED ESPORTS

[hot onyx]

It’s alright there should be a vod available on Bilibili

So now that esports has been invented

Guess who is an esports team

The Boston Uprising

[devout path]

Ur mother

[tawdry hamlet]

I am not a huge jayne fan but dude definitely gets way too much hate tbh

[hot onyx]

Untrue she would never

[noble nexus]

OMG the boston uprising?????

I bet they'll gradually get better with time!

[devout path]

I don’t even know the drama all I know is that it’s funny

[noble nexus]

I'm just really happy he invented esports

[devout path]

Nah I think they’ll never recover from losing all of their core pieces

[hot onyx]

Accused Fusion of nepotism one time when Chris was the only one behind the scenes who didn’t want Mr Chips on the team

[devout path]

So where did the inventing esports come from

[hot onyx]

Hey Kellex and Aimgod are LFT

[devout path]

We have faith

Why do we need more supports?

[tawdry hamlet]

so that kellex and aimgod can run it back to s2

hehe

[hot onyx]

Season 1 as well KEK

Bring along Striker and Kalios as well

Get Gamsu to stop playing LoL

And go on another 10 match win streak

[tawdry hamlet]

Kalios Striker Kellex Aimgod are all free agents hehe

I think Andy is only trying to distract from the real boys getting back together

[gusty rampart]

Kalios is 🐐

[hot onyx]

Kalios got benched for Note

Showcheng didn’t

Therefore Showcheng > Kalios

[gusty rampart]

Kalios benched Bianca

[worthy void]

praying moth joins shock

flora jjonak and kalios carryinng nyxl

[gusty rampart]

JJoNak NYXL?

Kalios NYXL?

Moth Shock?

[next mesa]

Bianca benched hotba

Hotba benched poko

Therefore

Showcheng > poko

[devout path]

https://twitter.com/crimzo/status/1448126751280926723?s=21

Crimzo (@Crimzo)

It was an incredible year and I'll never forget it. Thank you everyone for your continuous support throughout the season. It was truly an honor to represent the city of Houston and play with an amazing group of guys. This door may have closed, but another one has opened. https://t.co/mZQrJZzDn4

Likes

1037

Twitter · Oct 13, 2021, 3:21 AM

Huh

Crimzo has another opportunity already

[gusty rampart]

About to hit 300 likes

easiest dub of my life

[mortal cipher]

lol

[next mesa]

Well if u want a western support he's like

Def #2 behind uv

[devout path]

Maybe

Just shows how bloodthirsty gms are for flex supports rn

[mortal cipher]

especially the low ones

[north relic]

i honestly cant think of any western fs other than these two

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/twilight_ow/status/1448444640143699971?s=21

Twilight (@Twilight_OW)

my new job https://t.co/YXteGxcfsw

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 14, 2021, 12:24 AM

[mortal cipher]

wot does that mena

[tropic herald]

Idk

[mortal cipher]

ah

[forest raven]

[mortal cipher]

is this spark since its pink

;p;

[north relic]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/q7m2d2/were_the_overwatch_2_hero_design_and_balance_team/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Why didn’t anyone tell me about this ama

[raw ermine]

I sent it to modmail. no response. Cringe

[north relic]

Brig shieldbash got buffed to brig v1 except there is no stun and it goes 2x longer

[plush light]

Kuki gone??

[mortal cipher]

da

[somber latch]

where signings

[raw ermine]

all must be torn down before it can be rebuilt

[somber latch]

tearing it down is quicker than building back up

well at least in construction

[worn falcon]

Masa

[unkempt jungle]

Hey guys I have a team that is looking to play Friday. Anyone who has a team and is looking to scrim hut me up in dms.

[somber latch]

wrong place i think #lfg

[next mesa]

Nah let's pull up esports gang

[mortal cipher]

yee

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/TPaoIucci/status/1448450312637911042

Carpe Take My Water🎃 (@TPaoIucci)

Poko > Space
Alarm > Shu
Eqo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevster
Funnyastro > Moth
Carpe > Birdring
Mano > Muze

Now gimme my interactions glads fans

Twitter · Oct 14, 2021, 12:47 AM

[hot onyx]

I mean other than Mano > MuZe he has a point

[vagrant cargo]

dogshit bait

[raw ermine]

meh

[vagrant cargo]

thats just low effort

[hot onyx]

True, EQO only >>>>> Kevster

[vagrant cargo]

He could have made it realistic w like muze>mano space>poko

or the obvious one kevster>eqo

other ones are very debatable

[hot onyx]

Astro is unironically better than Moth 100%

Alarm is equal to Shu

[vagrant cargo]

yeah astro>moth

shu alarm is pointless to debate depends on the team but alarm has a higher peak

[hot onyx]

There is an argument for Carpe being better than Birdring depending on who feels like playing in their prime on that day

[vagrant cargo]

birdring S4 wipes carpe in S4

carpe is high A/low S birdring was top 2

[hot onyx]

True but Carpe S3 dunks Birdring S3

[vagrant cargo]

i kindq disagree

rewatch S3 birdring

[hot onyx]

Glads fan moment

[vagrant cargo]

He was nutw

nuts

nah genuinly

[noble nexus]

This is not a glads fan moment

This guy is a crackhead

[vagrant cargo]

Im not even a glads fan anymore+i wasnt a glads fan in S3

[noble nexus]

Idk wtf he’s on about

[hot onyx]

May Melee knockouts map six third point attack

vs Dragons

[vagrant cargo]

but birdring put up unreal numbers and performances while having a washed space, OGE and shaz goose

[earnest leaf]

I could see alarm over shu tbh

Besides bapt

[noble nexus]

I also could see that but this season Shu was better

[vagrant cargo]

like S3 birdring was a crackhead

[hot onyx]

Birdring looked like a good player on a bad team

So did Myunbong

[vagrant cargo]

He looked insane

He literally never got hitscan diffed

glads had an okay record with every win being on the back of birdring going nuts

[hot onyx]

I would argue otherwise with pretty much any match vs Shock Fusion Paris or Mayhem S3

[vagrant cargo]

He went even w carpe and xzi

and fucked shock that one match

He also provided great flexability

[earnest leaf]

was it the match where they ran sinatraa on rein

[vagrant cargo]

yeah

[earnest leaf]

if so that match doesn't have a lot of meaning

[vagrant cargo]

ik

but it was regarding sans saying he did bad vs shock/got diffed

[hot onyx]

Fair

[earnest leaf]

he only got diffed if he played vs ans

and ans diffed everyone anyways

[hot onyx]

But that’s still dissing the performance Carpe had in S3

Sure Birdring was the best player on Glads S3 and had a good season this year

[vagrant cargo]

i mean i had both top 3

[hot onyx]

But Carpe was undoubtedly a top 3 hitscan barely behind, arguably equal to Lip and Ans

[vagrant cargo]

for hitscan

i had both above lip and ans since ans Lacked flexability and was overly reliant on mechanics and lip just wasnt nearly as cracned as this year

https://youtu.be/xd7Pu2-PBY4

this is just one example of many

[tawdry hamlet]

my top hitscans last year were shockwave xzi carpe ans decay

[earnest leaf]

the thing about flexibility is last year all ans had to play was widow/ashe/cree

rarely did he have to flex like this season

[vagrant cargo]

birdring took over games while having an absolute dogshit team

yeah

So tjats why i didnt rate him as an overall hs because it would be pointless

[earnest leaf]

shout out to bqb last year though

[vagrant cargo]

bqb was crazy yeah

my top 3 hitscans were birdring carpe decay

[hot onyx]

Ans just plugged in Soldier 76 simulator for this season

There was definitely an argument for Birdring but there was also times where he looked a little hot and cold during S3

[tawdry hamlet]

My only memory of season 3 glads was
https://youtu.be/y2OKHv_kgPs

Because Washington upset

[hot onyx]

That is a good memory

[tropic herald]

The only thing I remember of glads is two things

Them inting on Volskaya b defense

[vagrant cargo]

Not rlly

[tawdry hamlet]

I remember big goose 🦆

[tropic herald]

And Birdring clutching out w a tire on map 5 v Toronto

[vagrant cargo]

there wasnr a single game where birdring was the problem

it was just the same dumb narrative as in S2

when birdring was Londons best player in stage 4 and playoffs

[tawdry hamlet]

Oge Space Shaz Big Goose is the ideal lineup 😏😈

[hot onyx]

Not a problem just not putting up the star studded performances a top 3 hitscan would give

[vagrant cargo]

i mean thats hard to do vs top tier teams w that team lol

He still kept up

and had crazy frags

[tawdry hamlet]

Hitscan is hard to rate because the space you have to work with depends on your teams ability

[vagrant cargo]

yet birdring still went bananas

[hot onyx]

OGE redemption arc episode 4 next year

OGE to NYXL

[tawdry hamlet]

Take s3 shockwave for example, he excelled on a dog shit team and then did absolute mid with a real team

But also s3 glads lost so s3 justice and s3 Boston which was tragic lmao

[hot onyx]

OGE was never the problem and will prove it on a team that utilities his mechanical prowess to the max

[tawdry hamlet]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugxk37dF4zrWA25aXdd4AaABCQ

I watched five seconds and already found birdring solo killing 3 to lose the fight 😏

So ntb Lowkey checks out 💀

[tulip tulip]

How can SF Shockbuild a core around choi, super, and viol2t effectively? Any ideas?

[hot onyx]

By curling over and dying if they keep Super as their only main tank player

[tawdry hamlet]

If you want to watch a good series I recommend this titans upset from last year

https://youtu.be/3lcQLqs0BKc

[willow tartan]

dont worry they wont keep super

[tulip tulip]

yes. the ultimate feed. just like they did in playoffs

[tawdry hamlet]

Dalton and Shockwave in sync and Roolf fragging hard

Never get to see that

[tulip tulip]

shock lost striker, ans, architect, rascal, sinatraa, and nero & glister are off the list

[tawdry hamlet]

Edison Saucy Gator Hawk Iris Masaa losing to Shockwave Dalton Ksaa Shredlock Roolf CarCar is something else lmaoo

[hot onyx]

CarCar >

[vagrant cargo]

🗣🗣🗣

[hot onyx]

Imagine how good Birdring could’ve done with a good fdps instead of Kevster

[jagged viper]

fraudster

kevster sux

[hot onyx]

Hell yeah

Hey @jagged viper

Name every fdps better than Kevster

[jagged viper]

molanran

blase

actually everyone in the league better

even super would be better

[hot onyx]

That’s the spirit

[twin bloom]

That game was a prime example of hero pools being cringe

[tropic herald]

Hates Kevster being successful because he had to have rascal

[tawdry hamlet]

Diem could have been so good if he didn't have that fleta guy weighing him down smh

Like wtf bro they did diem so bad 😤

[hot onyx]

Rascal > Kevster

[tawdry hamlet]

S3 only tbh, in s4 rascal was incredibly mid off of mei

[earnest leaf]

I blame fusion

[worn falcon]

I blame Carpe

Smh

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk his echo did not keep up with the rest of the league anymore

Everyone got way better at echo besides him it seemed

[hot onyx]

I mean did you read the translated thread from his stream in January?

[tawdry hamlet]

Rascal did play that series too didn't he hehe

[hot onyx]

Man was thinking about retiring because he was losing passion for the game as a whole

[tropic herald]

Ok

Cool

[tawdry hamlet]

You know the one mystery we'll never solve

[hot onyx]

And bingo EQO can’t make Korea yet

[tawdry hamlet]

Where did libero go lmao

[tropic herald]

Libero is a crypto guy

[hot onyx]

Got rich off crypto currency

[willow tartan]

multi-millionaire

[tawdry hamlet]

Went from top flex dps to the disappearing vine

[willow tartan]

richest OWL player

[vagrant cargo]

kevster being better than every Single fusion dps ever last season just hurts them

but its okay

[tawdry hamlet]

Yes I know the crypto but he had no post or anything he just vanished

[hot onyx]

Hotba tracer >>>

[vagrant cargo]

cope

[tropic herald]

Libero has a lot of money but remember Korean Won is worth like .0001USD

[tawdry hamlet]

Also do you guys think if haksal stayed in the league he could expand his hero pool like sparkle did

[hot onyx]

Can’t cope with the truth

[tropic herald]

Yeah

[vagrant cargo]

no

[tawdry hamlet]

Lmao

[vagrant cargo]

sense diff

[earnest leaf]

all haksal would have had to do was learn tracer and echo

and he would be good this year

[hot onyx]

Idk mans talent got drained by IMT

[vagrant cargo]

and pharah

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't see how you can be consistent off genji or doom on fuckin 6cm/360 like that's literally higher than cloudy who plays double what pine plays which is like 2.5 times the normal lmao

[vagrant cargo]

and hanzo

[tawdry hamlet]

It's nuts

[vagrant cargo]

and improve his mei

[vagrant cargo]

p much

haksal was incredibly mid off genji doom brig

[earnest leaf]

because haksal was the best genji in the world

sad nyxl ended his career

[vagrant cargo]

but the Public isnt Ready for that

[willow tartan]

jjonak is a skill vampire and drains any person on his team of their talent. that's why he's remained good for 4 years

[vagrant cargo]

also no haksal was not the best genji in the World lol

Sp9rk1e >

[earnest leaf]

nah

[tawdry hamlet]

Haksal genji got overshadowed by a Lil Chinese boi named Eileen 😤

[vagrant cargo]

Eileen>

[earnest leaf]

peak haksal> any genji

[hot onyx]

How tf does IMT have Haksal playing in a genji meta and not even make the apac finals?

[vagrant cargo]

nah

Peak sp9rk1e dicks him

[tropic herald]

Whoru > Haksal

[earnest leaf]

peak sparkle is close but haksal is op

[willow tartan]

cause charge are just better lol

[tropic herald]

Haksal lives in 2018

[vagrant cargo]

Peak haksal beat up some shittas in stage 4 while having double damage boost

[tropic herald]

Sparkle is eternal

[vagrant cargo]

Peak sp9rk1e genji won a title

w out nano

haksal also had super inconsistent aim due to his sense

[tawdry hamlet]

Sparkle in summer showdown had so many little things to his mechanics that made such big differences watching a pro vod review it made me realize how good he is

[tropic herald]

Guys I made a joke please recognize how good it was

[hot onyx]

Ramttio

[vagrant cargo]

Peak haksal genji hasnt achieved anything relevant

[tawdry hamlet]

Is it a hot take to say nearly every player on runaway Titans is overrated besides Twilight 😏

[tropic herald]

Also sparkle chooses to play Genji whenever he pleases

[vagrant cargo]

no

[willow tartan]

still cant believe charge won a stage title before philly and philly were dominant all year

[vagrant cargo]

i agree

[earnest leaf]

because he was never on a team capable of anything when genji became meta

[tropic herald]

Twilight still overrated too

[vagrant cargo]

thats bs

NYXL werent even that bad

He literally just didnt look that insane in S3

[hot onyx]

Is it a hot take to say that every runaway player besides Twilight has washed up since 2019?

[vagrant cargo]

because news flash

playing genji vs good oponents w out double pocket

[tawdry hamlet]

Ryujehong was the most overrated player in the games existence and that's no cap on a stack all facts

[vagrant cargo]

is different then getting nano and mercy dmg boost vs shit teams like stage 4 mayhem or Shanghai in S2

[vagrant cargo]

i agree

[hot onyx]

Back in Lunatic Hai he was neat

[vagrant cargo]

dude was dogshit on Zen

pre S2

[hot onyx]

But man turned talent inside out when joining OWL

[tropic herald]

Who else is massively overrated

Hmmm

[vagrant cargo]

Profit

[earnest leaf]

decay

[tawdry hamlet]

Decay and Profit 🙏

[willow tartan]

contenders players

[vagrant cargo]

Also proper

slightly

[earnest leaf]

off tracer, decay is nothing special

[tropic herald]

Proper is not overrated:/

[earnest leaf]

and even on tracer there are people ahead of him easily

[vagrant cargo]

considering how inconsistent he can be on hitscan

eh

i see ppl saying shit like hes top 3 owl

w out even rlly watching him

[hot onyx]

Michelle

[earnest leaf]

proper has the contenders buff atm

[vagrant cargo]

no one rates Michelle

[willow tartan]

N

[vagrant cargo]

yes.

[tawdry hamlet]

Lots of prospects come out overrated af but that's literally anyone with t2 success

[vagrant cargo]

there are different servers than this one

surprise

[earnest leaf]

which is when a player does well in t2 and people think they can all of a sudden contest top owl teams with ease

[hot onyx]

That’s still far too high of a rating

[tawdry hamlet]

Aztac 😏

[vagrant cargo]

anyways

another super overrated Player is piggy

[willow tartan]

solution: have top owl teams compete in contenders

[vagrant cargo]

hotba>piggy unironicaly

[earnest leaf]

so have top owl teams bully everyone and get a free 1st place finish

[hot onyx]

Another Super overrated player is Cashew

[tropic herald]

Shanghai dragons v Bullfrog in well

🐐

[vagrant cargo]

then for hitscan overrated Kai

[hot onyx]

Screenshotted for insurance purposes

[earnest leaf]

I think super's winston and ball get a bit overrated

[vagrant cargo]

might be unpopular

[tawdry hamlet]

Fusion University lmaoo

[earnest leaf]

but his rein/orisa are definitely top tier

[vagrant cargo]

but Kai aint a top 5 hs

[willow tartan]

no, so have the contenders gauntlet winner square off in an exhibition match against that years owl champs.

[vagrant cargo]

hes 7th

[devout path]

We shall call it the contenders effect

[tropic herald]

Shu overrated too

[vagrant cargo]

nah

[tawdry hamlet]

Yes

[gusty rampart]

No

[vagrant cargo]

shu is god

[tropic herald]

His Bap is good

His Ana

Feeder

[vagrant cargo]

que

[gusty rampart]

Leave overrated

[vagrant cargo]

his ana is godtier

[devout path]

Bap zen is cracked

[tawdry hamlet]

He has a highlight play and people act like he's top 2 flex support on lock

[vagrant cargo]

dude has the best ana mechanics after alarm

[devout path]

We do a little trolling

[tropic herald]

His Ana is really good except for the part where he’s contractually obliged to be dumb 1/3 fights

[gusty rampart]

Shu flanking either flanked and dominated or flanked and throwed

[vagrant cargo]

thats based

lastro

[willow tartan]

he's literally playing for clips

[vagrant cargo]

lastro was a shitta except once every 5 games

[gusty rampart]

I respect it

[hot onyx]

Lip Birdring Fits Glister Carpe Leave Kai

[tawdry hamlet]

Threw is the word you were looking for there

[hot onyx]

Not horrible

[gusty rampart]

No

[vagrant cargo]

leave is a fdps imo and flora>kai

[tropic herald]

Why are Carpe and Glister up there

[devout path]

???????

[hot onyx]

Because suck my nuts that’s why

[vagrant cargo]

and shy>Kai too

Flora is a crackhead

[tropic herald]

Shy and Flora slander

[vagrant cargo]

i dont wanna hear it

hes also more flexible

[hot onyx]

Oh shit yeah I forgot Shy existed because his team sucked doodoo

[vagrant cargo]

Also

[tropic herald]

Shy with a good team could be the best hitscan ever

[vagrant cargo]

Nero is overrated.

[devout path]

Ur overrated

[fallen turret]

Yaki pretty good

[vagrant cargo]

i saw ppl say he is top 5 n shit

[hot onyx]

Nero was overrated

[earnest leaf]

I think nero gets rated pretty well

[hot onyx]

Top 5 is absurd

[tropic herald]

Nero is solid

[vagrant cargo]

he is 8th or 9th

[tropic herald]

He does the work

[hot onyx]

8th is reasonable

[tawdry hamlet]

Carpe mechanically is fantastic still as his lower sense style will always be consistent he imo is just too uncomfortable in metas where he can't just look for picks most of the time. Like in fast paced close up fights he looks uncomfy compared to aim duels/skill duels

[vagrant cargo]

1.Leave
2.Pelican
3.Fleta
4.Kevster
5.Yaki
6.Sp9rk1e
7.Profit
8.Jinmu
9.Nero

[earnest leaf]

nah not jinmu

fuck that

[fallen turret]

Is this for dps or tracer?

[earnest leaf]

mf is a sombra pharah two trick

[vagrant cargo]

jinmu god

[hot onyx]

But nobody in their right mind could rate Nero above Fleta Pelican Sp9rk1e Leave or Yaki

[next mesa]

Jjonak ana mechanics are top 3

[vagrant cargo]

or kevster.

[willow tartan]

how do you guys know if something is overrated or not. like do you guys talk to a lot of people and they actually rate players enough to have a solid sample size or what

[hot onyx]

“Profit is insanely overrated”

[tropic herald]

ratio

[vagrant cargo]

He is

[next mesa]

I'm just sayin

[tawdry hamlet]

JJonak is mid but nobody will admit it 😭

[hot onyx]

Teru > Kevster

[next mesa]

Nah look at his povs

So cracked

[vagrant cargo]

best Player in OWL is void

[next mesa]

Tank diff

[tropic herald]

TRUE

[devout path]

Best owl player is valentine

[hot onyx]

JJonak is mid-high at best barely scratches top 10

[vagrant cargo]

midventine

[tawdry hamlet]

Space was hella overrated for a while because popular streamer guy

[vagrant cargo]

yes

[tawdry hamlet]

But now he's actually good again

[vagrant cargo]

space was dogshit in A3

S3

[willow tartan]

you know who's also popular streamer guy

[vagrant cargo]

dude played cracked one outta 5 games

and was horseshit in May melee

[tropic herald]

Space plays the same way but now he’s the only one that does the feeding

[tawdry hamlet]

[tropic herald]

Instead of his whole team doing it too

[devout path]

Uhhh smurf?

[vagrant cargo]

also

myunbong lowkey overrated

[tropic herald]

True

[vagrant cargo]

dude fucking sux on bap and is mid on ana zen

[tropic herald]

He’s inflexible

[hot onyx]

There’s another popular streamer guy who is rated as a top 5 main tank by his deluded fan base

[tropic herald]

And his decision making is sussy

[tawdry hamlet]

Kariv was overrated and sometimes still is 😏

[vagrant cargo]

yes

Kariv bottom 3

or 4

[tropic herald]

ONE GAME GASLIGHTS EVERYONE INTO THINKING HES GOOD

[vagrant cargo]

bro Kariv went downhill so fast

[earnest leaf]

he did fuck on titans that match tho

[tawdry hamlet]

I still see people saying he deserves another team after 2 years of mid

[hot onyx]

Roolf Wya Ripa

[vagrant cargo]

wya

wya was FS

yeah Kariv is 17th

😳

[tawdry hamlet]

Anyone with a past history of good performance gets overrated to the moon in their later seasons

Like look at jjonak or profit

[vagrant cargo]

ok but do u want a real hot take

[hot onyx]

No but go ahead

[devout path]

I still don’t know how profit got an mvp nomination

[vagrant cargo]

okay hear me out

[tropic herald]

[hot onyx]

Nepotism

[vagrant cargo]

Alarm is the best Player after void

and it isnt close

[gusty rampart]

N

[tropic herald]

Not hot imo

[vagrant cargo]

void and alarm are in a tier in their own as players

Alarm at peak is just god

[devout path]

Not that hot

[earnest leaf]

I'm kinda sad viol2t got fucked over this year

[hot onyx]

Holy shit wowee

[gusty rampart]

JJoNak did extremely well but team not win so he's bad

[tawdry hamlet]

That's lukewarm because it depends on if they are dps fans or not

[devout path]

Alarm is just insane

[tropic herald]

They will be forever under appreciated too

[vagrant cargo]

oh and naga>nero

[gusty rampart]

I will forever say

[earnest leaf]

because viol2t went from undisputed best FS in s3 to just top 5 this year

[tropic herald]

Especially Void

[hot onyx]

There is not that large of a gap between them and Shu Izayaki and Hanbin

[gusty rampart]

JJoNak>Alarm

[tawdry hamlet]

JJonak didn't do that well thooooooo

In s4

[tropic herald]

Void robbed of MVP last year

[tawdry hamlet]

He really didn't team diff aside lmao

[hot onyx]

They are the best but the “not even close” argument is silly

[devout path]

Not even a jjonak fancam stfu

[earnest leaf]

viol2t was robbed of mvp last year

[vagrant cargo]

how

Alarm was better

[gusty rampart]

What does this even mean

[devout path]

No jjonak fancam fake jjonak fan

[vagrant cargo]

Also y yall let my naga>nero take slip by

[gusty rampart]

What are you on about

Naga good

[earnest leaf]

cuz it's a bad take not worth going over

[vagrant cargo]

L

[gusty rampart]

Nero good

[hot onyx]

@plush grail

[vagrant cargo]

naga better on anything not Named mei

[gusty rampart]

N

[vagrant cargo]

yes

[tropic herald]

Anyone have that clip of alarm Ana this year v Philly where he straight up assassinated wya cross map on Eichenwalde C

[hot onyx]

I can brb

[devout path]

Alarm vs philly

[gusty rampart]

So true

[devout path]

4head

[tropic herald]

Always has been

[gusty rampart]

[earnest leaf]

yall want a really hot take though that i've made before

[vagrant cargo]

MuZe was the best MT w Fate last sesson

season*

[devout path]

Lol

Anyways

[earnest leaf]

Fearless is a sidegrade to benbest due to both of their hero pools

[vagrant cargo]

Name a different MT that was top tier on all heros

[tawdry hamlet]

LOL I looked for a game of jjonak and the first highlight I find is him completely popping and then Friday
https://youtube.com/clip/UgwuHgB1h_kN3bzE7-94AaABCQ

[tropic herald]

ratio

[earnest leaf]

muze wasn't top tier on any

[vagrant cargo]

Also benbest was good but not able to take over games and fearless learned ball

[earnest leaf]

he was like A/B tier on them and that is about it

[vagrant cargo]

yeah nah u dont know how to rate MTs

top 4 Ball top 5 monkey best Orisa and top 5 on rein

backed up by Stats and eyetest

[tropic herald]

When we gonna finally come to terms that Hanbin boosted BenBests ass

[earnest leaf]

benbest is just french gator

[tawdry hamlet]

JJonak saves the team and gets a 3k
Friday walks into mine on won fight 😏

[devout path]

LMAOOOO

[earnest leaf]

idk how you rate muze so highly on individual heroes

the most he had going for him was flexibility

[devout path]

Glads simp

[vagrant cargo]

MuZe had one week where he didnt dominate super and fearless (while still Landint great shatters and blocking Lots of) because his team Was disjointed

and ppl act as if hes bad individualy

its crazy

[earnest leaf]

but mechanically on the MTs he isn't anything special

[vagrant cargo]

thats bs

watch his PoV

[next mesa]

why did he get dropped man

[vagrant cargo]

dude has goated ball monkey mechanics and rlly good rein mechanics

[noble nexus]

Mr I’m not even a glads fan anymore sucking off every glads player ever

[hot onyx]

Found it but it isn’t POV

[vagrant cargo]

dpei is a fraud

[earnest leaf]

muze is what we call a decent MT surrounded by top tier players

[tropic herald]

Drops aren’t inherently what the team chooses

[vagrant cargo]

MuZe also never rlly got that much Support or peel since glads played super aggro and focused on enabling dps

[earnest leaf]

muze just goes in, does his job and chills

kinda like mano

He won't take over games or throw

[vagrant cargo]

ow is not that simple

[tawdry hamlet]

Yes a lot of players can literally just decline offers etc

It isn't entirely cuts

[vagrant cargo]

and u dont need to takeover games when thats Not his teams win condition

[hot onyx]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgwzSzYnqyh5FUrj15h4AaABCQ

[vagrant cargo]

Also he showed on Talon and eternal acad that if needed he can takeover games

[devout path]

I remember custa saying that from what he remembers it’s not the players choice on whether or not the +1 gets accepted or not

[vagrant cargo]

oh and on WGS were he won korean contenders due to his monkey

[hot onyx]

Except MuZe didn’t choose to feed his brains out

[earnest leaf]

don't care about contenders when rating a player's owl performance

[tropic herald]

LOL

[vagrant cargo]

kr contenders is even w OWL

[tawdry hamlet]

The 180 sleep flick after to further flex 💪

[earnest leaf]

some of the top teams sure

[vagrant cargo]

WGS and Runaway both dominated apac teams on a regular in scrimms

yes

[hot onyx]

Yeah yeah the quality is jarring lemme find a better version

[earnest leaf]

because apac wasn't even good last year lol

[vagrant cargo]

WGS was Infact the best echo dive team back then

they were insane

Sure eternal acad or Talon u can dismiss

[earnest leaf]

It was shd rolling everyone, chengdu chilling, and everyone else being inconsistent or falling flat in important games

[tropic herald]

Wait have you guys seen the Jimmy scrim clip

[vagrant cargo]

but WGS were the best koresn tier 2 team or top 3

[vagrant cargo]

yet its still OWL lol

[devout path]

Alarm man

[vagrant cargo]

and WGS scrimmed everyone

[devout path]

Put this guy on a good team please

[tropic herald]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/q1fvms/jimmy_dominating_dragons_in_scrim/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Please watch this

[tawdry hamlet]

Me frantically searching for my clip of Kayleee dominating diem

[vagrant cargo]

Also

[tawdry hamlet]

[vagrant cargo]

glads were only undisputable top tier in CC

[devout path]

Wtf

[vagrant cargo]

w a lot of shaky performances

yet

[hot onyx]

Better version

[vagrant cargo]

MuZe was the best orisa a top 4 ball and a top 3? Winston statwise while playing w a hyperaggro backline and offtank

u dont get that while only being decent

[earnest leaf]

he wasn't the best orisa lmao

[gusty rampart]

Flex Support gapping a Valiant player

Impressive

[earnest leaf]

Nor was he top 3 winston

[hot onyx]

Philadelphia MuZeion 🙏

[vagrant cargo]

He was a top 5 Winston and the besr orisa

[gusty rampart]

Muze was mediocre

[devout path]

Yes so good

[vagrant cargo]

statwise he is also a top 5 rein btw

and the second best winston

and the best orisa

[gusty rampart]

MuZe simp

[earnest leaf]

stats are dogshit

[forest raven]

"Statwise"

[vagrant cargo]

stats w context

[earnest leaf]

stats say mag was the best rein going into playoffs

[gusty rampart]

Statwise super was the best Orisa

[vagrant cargo]

He obtained those stats while having a hyperaggro OT and backline

[gusty rampart]

According to IBM

[vagrant cargo]

w out getring ressources

on a team that wasnt focused on enabling the MT

[hot onyx]

Statistics say that I had sexual intercourse with every #esports-discussion members mothers

[vagrant cargo]

u dont get those being mediocre/decent

[gusty rampart]

Statistics say Sans should be banned

[vagrant cargo]

eye test+numbers and a proven track record do not lie

[hot onyx]

Statistics say you are unfunny + ratio

[gusty rampart]

counter ratio

[next mesa]

omg I saw that

[vagrant cargo]

IBM stats stopped updating after a while iirc

[forest raven]

Yeah because IBM dropped the sponsor

[vagrant cargo]

yup

so i remain correct

Same Story as void on gladiators

[gusty rampart]

They also put Yakpung in 8th

So they're objectively wrong

[vagrant cargo]

Tank player not being super flashy=decent/mediocre

[tropic herald]

Benched for Hydration Sigma

[hot onyx]

OGE below Super is a crime

[gusty rampart]

You're wrong

Dead wrong

[vagrant cargo]

Also yakpung is p dogshit statwise

[forest raven]

IBM Watson had dallas above shanghai the entire time it existed so

[hot onyx]

Shock fan thinks streamer man who streams and plays for their team is top 1

[forest raven]

Fuck IBM Watson

[hot onyx]

Sounds right

[gusty rampart]

Super haters

[vagrant cargo]

anyways

i take another dub 🗣

[earnest leaf]

super's orisa is unironically up top

[vagrant cargo]

Super orisa good

MuZe orisa better

ez

[tropic herald]

Clearly winning two finals isn’t enough

[vagrant cargo]

u will see MuZe shock

[hot onyx]

Hot take Super would not be rated as highly if he did not stream on twitch.tv/yourmum

[gusty rampart]

N

[earnest leaf]

nah i'd take super's orisa over muze

[forest raven]

[vagrant cargo]

based on what

[gusty rampart]

Based on deez nuts

[vagrant cargo]

because MuZe legit outperformed hin on orisa

[gusty rampart]

Based on deez nuts

[vagrant cargo]

and got way more value when they faced each other

rewatch the series

[gusty rampart]

[hot onyx]

I like ripping Glads players but MuZe was good

[vagrant cargo]

See even sans knows it

[hot onyx]

Masaa still > Moth though

[vagrant cargo]

i mean

[gusty rampart]

Absolutely not

[vagrant cargo]

i can see that

lol

[gusty rampart]

Moth didn't get hard Diffed by Closer

[vagrant cargo]

Performance wise masaa was better

last season

[earnest leaf]

Moth is a top 2 ms and it's sad he got fucked cuz dpei can't coach rush

[gusty rampart]

Because moth didn't play

[vagrant cargo]

when moth played he didnt look impressive

He was good nothing else

[gusty rampart]

Guys Bianca better than Poko stat wise because of performance

[earnest leaf]

because glads sucked dick playing with a lucio

[vagrant cargo]

i mean poko isnt good either

[hot onyx]

And now we’re back to hating eachother as usual

[gusty rampart]

Better than Bianca

[vagrant cargo]

thats Not hard to achieve

Bianca has been underwhelming for s4

[gusty rampart]

Statwise he's better

[vagrant cargo]

He was way to inconsistent

Also ur a shitty baiter

sans did it better zzz

[gusty rampart]

Statwise I am

[tropic herald]

I was sad about Bianca Bc he kinda looked alright going into this season

Then he just wasn’t

[vagrant cargo]

Bianca was slept on S3

He had great peaks

[hot onyx]

Poko should be equal to Vestola given his continued quality of mechanical skill on his streams

[vagrant cargo]

streams

[tropic herald]

Ah yes

Ranked

[vagrant cargo]

and when he played in tier 2 he looked shit

[hot onyx]

European contenders

[vagrant cargo]

dude got diffed by finnsi 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[hot onyx]

When he played for tier 2 and sandbagged

[tropic herald]

EU T2 is a joke

[vagrant cargo]

mans looked bad asf

even in sxrimms

[hot onyx]

Mans literally said in an interview Funi weren’t taking it seriously

[vagrant cargo]

i remember that funi acad americsn Tornado scrimm Code flying around

poko looked so bad

genuinly shit

[tropic herald]

Coluge 🐐

[vagrant cargo]

also funi got a wholeass coaching staff and scrimmed on the regular

+all of them have p big Egos so i doubt they wanted to troll in a shit region

[twin bloom]

True but that scrim was with false

[vagrant cargo]

false diffed poko so hard

it was absurd

[hot onyx]

Yeah because half they players didn’t get playtime for multiple tournaments

[twin bloom]

Cause false is goated

[tropic herald]

Broooo

[twin bloom]

@vagrant cargo molf1g or poko?

[tropic herald]

False literally just came out of prison

[vagrant cargo]

so they took it serious to get unboomed as soon as possible

[vagrant cargo]

poko molf is washed now

at peak molf tho

[twin bloom]

Sad

London boomed

The molf1g

[hot onyx]

Peak Molf vs peak Poko

[tropic herald]

I miss molf 1 gallon

[vagrant cargo]

everyone on London except shax is boomed appereantly

[tropic herald]

Not surprised tbh

[vagrant cargo]

Also peak poko wasnt that great hes mad overhyped

[tropic herald]

Imagine being the best in your region no contest just to get shit stomped for months on end

[hot onyx]

you are mad overhyped

[tropic herald]

They probably learned what it felt like to lose really hard

[twin bloom]

London's coaching staff was also high

Benching shax

For hybrid

[vagrant cargo]

what did peak poko achive besides big bombs in S1 where even other Pros said hes the most overrated Player or S3 where he almost lost philly the series to Toronto and Atlanta early on and was the reason they lost to Paris w no sp9rk1e fielder?

[hot onyx]

Going from a 20 something win streak to a 15 loss streak I’d be boomed as well

[tropic herald]

I feel like London should’ve just forced shax tracer and see what happened

[earnest leaf]

shax would kill 4 and london would still lose

was sad

[vagrant cargo]

or the one time he got to play zarya vs glads just to lose both his maps while getting pounded by mirror

[hot onyx]

Mirror >

Your point?

[vagrant cargo]

mirror goat

[tropic herald]

Mirror needs to learn relevant heroes

He plays all the corny ones

[hot onyx]

Glads got rid of their 2 best players, third decent one retired and they resigned the worst one for a 2 year contract gg go next 2024

[vagrant cargo]

smh

what if kevster went to philly

[twin bloom]

Mirror plays every dps other than widow

Just kevster and birdring better

[hot onyx]

Be incredibly sad unless Fusion had a more stacked roster than Dragons to carry his bum ass

[tropic herald]

I feel like it could be cool to see him this upcoming season again

[vagrant cargo]

Man

[tropic herald]

Maybe one if the western rosters gets him

[vagrant cargo]

what did He do to u

[twin bloom]

Mirror makes a budget team at minimum

[hot onyx]

Gender assumption in 2021 smh

[vagrant cargo]

did him farming yo team rlly hurt that bad

[tropic herald]

I was thinking Mayhem despite not getting AT backline could still make a decent western team

[vagrant cargo]

goat

[tropic herald]

So that gives me hope

[hot onyx]

Naw https://youtu.be/8ykWVR4IsaY

[twin bloom]

Mayhem could be better than this years paris

But it depends

[vagrant cargo]

that series isnt relevant

oge shaz goose and washed space

[hot onyx]

Neither is last series

Season over

[vagrant cargo]

last series is

Most recent one

[noble nexus]

The good old times when Philly was competent

[hot onyx]

Recency bias smh

[twin bloom]

Before philly replaced fury with hotba

Good times

[noble nexus]

Smh I hate recency bias

[hot onyx]

Better than replacing Sado with Mano

[noble nexus]

Vancouver best team in the world still

[twin bloom]

Also replacing peak ivy

With washed eqo

[vagrant cargo]

that shit Was dumb asf

[tropic herald]

Losing heesu

[vagrant cargo]

Also sado is underrated idc

[twin bloom]

Sado gets to much shit for having kr kellex

On his team

[vagrant cargo]

and feedstro

[tropic herald]

The heese was leesed to Toronto

[vagrant cargo]

and feedchelle

[twin bloom]

Nah lastro goat

On zen

Not bap

[vagrant cargo]

dude has no peeling OT a brain dead fs a dogshit MS

still does well individualy

and ppl blame him

[hot onyx]

Heesu was the big blow for me since sombra was mandatory for 3/4 of the tournaments

[vagrant cargo]

make it make sense

[twin bloom]

The stage toronto were good

Was the stage lastro got to play zen

And heesu sombra

[vagrant cargo]

yeah

[twin bloom]

Michelle dva

Aspire tracer

[tropic herald]

I hope teams recognize how good sado is for OW2 he’s mechanically good and flexible

Just seems like a good safe choice

[twin bloom]

But tracer is aspire's worst hero

No cap

[tropic herald]

Finale in OWL match????

Ok but really I was impressed watching Finale

[twin bloom]

Finale is awful

Lmao

[hot onyx]

Thank god there wasn’t any Michelle zarya https://youtube.com/clip/UgyaN9NRwR80leqtpu94AaABCQ

[vagrant cargo]

Finale is DOGSHIT

[twin bloom]

Victoria>>>

Finale

Finale is abysmal

[tropic herald]

My life is a lie

[twin bloom]

Lmao not even good by NAC standards

[vagrant cargo]

Finale gets fucked in scrimms all the time too

[tropic herald]

I guess I got gaslight by the one map

[twin bloom]

UA has a really annoying roster

[vagrant cargo]

u know whos the goat

shadowburn

[tropic herald]

Annoying by what metric

[hot onyx]

I’ll drink to that

[twin bloom]

Simple trolls

Ranked

[tropic herald]

Oh

[vagrant cargo]

He scrimmed w that owl reject team for 2 weeks fucked everyone in EU scrimms

[tropic herald]

Isn’t simple also young

[vagrant cargo]

and then project just busted

[twin bloom]

Doesn't communicate

[hot onyx]

Damn got a vod?

[vagrant cargo]

nah

[tropic herald]

I’m not condoning trolling but also like he’s got time to grow hopefully

[vagrant cargo]

shits ages ago

pre funi

[hot onyx]

Sadge

[twin bloom]

Was danye better than shadowburn?

[hot onyx]

Any clue who he played with?

[hot onyx]

SDB was the genji goat back in the day

[twin bloom]

Prolly benbest kruise nico

[willow tartan]

what sort of trolling are we talking about

[hot onyx]

Western at least

[hot onyx]

That was Boombox when he played for YAB

[vagrant cargo]

https://youtu.be/UdQ-X3qLfi8

GOAT

Also nah

SDB>>danye

danye was the better Player for goats tho

and Paris best hitscan unironicaly in S2

but fefe has the french disease

[twin bloom]

Danye and shadowburn both gapped nico so hard

On legit every hero

[vagrant cargo]

Not nico

[twin bloom]

But paris kept nico

Tragically

Also benbest over cloudy

[vagrant cargo]

SDB Syca JkAru Finnsi Kruise Boombox was the roster i think

[hot onyx]

That’s pretty stacked

[vagrant cargo]

eh

Kreise sux has huge ego

benbest rein otp

[hot onyx]

Well as stacked as you can get a roster with Kruise holding it down

[vagrant cargo]

syca was a lil washed

finnsi was rusty

[earnest leaf]

nah his orisa was pretty solid

[vagrant cargo]

it was p much the SDB boombox show

no it was not there lol.

He got caught out of position so many times

[hot onyx]

Season 1 Fusion fan is pleased

[vagrant cargo]

Im not talking bout OWL benbest w rush as a hc

[hot onyx]

Benbest goated tf u mean

[devout path]

Man

[hot onyx]

Put man on a team like Paris

Big win

[devout path]

😍

Now that’s a man I’ll be a paris fan for

[hot onyx]

Well do I have the Season 3 Summer Showdown final for you

[devout path]

Is he on paris currently?

Didn’t think so

So not a fan of paris

[willow tartan]

he's not even competing

in any capacity

[devout path]

He is lft rn

[hot onyx]

Yeah but be a fan of old Paris

[willow tartan]

lft for modelling job

[devout path]

Lft owl

[hot onyx]

I was a fan of old NYXL

Not against the law to stay in the past

[devout path]

It is

Weirdo

[hot onyx]

Look at Shock fans

During playoffs

[willow tartan]

i still live in 2016

[hot onyx]

Hell yeah hit a fat dab my guy

[devout path]

God damn tho benbest is so hot

[willow tartan]

dont make it weird

[devout path]

Oh I’m making it weird

[hot onyx]

Nothing like Piggy or Hotba though

[devout path]

Better

Than both

Combined

[hot onyx]

Chub diff

[willow tartan]

fate >

[devout path]

Benbest 😍

[vagrant cargo]

https://youtu.be/7PLYC6lszNU

man

He was so good

[willow tartan]

is that guy still alive

[vagrant cargo]

easily the best Western projectile Player in terms of mechanics

dude was unreal

[willow tartan]

guess not

[hot onyx]

I’ll miss George

Holy shit would you look at the time I need to scream profanity directed to Kevster out my window before going to sleep

Goodnight grease stains

[tawdry hamlet]

ok this was disgusting lmao
https://youtube.com/clip/UgzJxvqqWhn1YLRaXq54AaABCQ

[willow tartan]

pretty epic

[fervent acorn]

@willow tartan jeez what a name

[willow tartan]

mccree is good name.

[tawdry hamlet]

Jerry is gonna have the breakout year he was supposed to soon guys I promise it isn't an oge situation hehe

[plush grail]

Cope

[balmy wolf]

gm cutie

[willow tartan]

more like silver

[tawdry hamlet]

Good morning or grand master 🤔

[balmy wolf]

gm shitters

[willow tartan]

good morning makes more sense than ian being GM

[tawdry hamlet]

[willow tartan]

but also whenever someone says gm 9 times out of 10 they mean grandmaster

[balmy wolf]

aaaaaaaaaaa

[willow tartan]

its not even morning

where is ian again?

[balmy wolf]

ur dumb u know that?

[willow tartan]

where does ian live and what times is it there

what part of the world is currently in morning

wait he's british isnt he?

or is that the other guy

[balmy wolf]

memeicus cant use brain

[willow tartan]

i usually keep track of time with owl matches

[balmy wolf]

give him brain pls

[willow tartan]

NA games going on = morning to afternoon in america

APAC games going on = afternoon evening europe

[balmy wolf]

gm

[balmy wolf]

hahahaha

cant fix stupid

[willow tartan]

???

[balmy wolf]

apac games start at 10 am in europe shitter

[willow tartan]

thats basically afternoon

[balmy wolf]

?????

[willow tartan]

morning is from 3 am to 8 am

[balmy wolf]

u ok bud

afternoon ist after noon

[willow tartan]

marbel you know you eat breakfast at morning right?

who eats breakfast at 10

[balmy wolf]

its high noon bro

u good?

AFTER !"

[willow tartan]

you eat breakfast at 10???

[balmy wolf]

after 12

[balmy wolf]

no thats midday

[willow tartan]

yeah so its not morning

morning is 3-8

[balmy wolf]

10 is on the edge of morning and midday

afternoon is after midday

[willow tartan]

your country is stupid for not using metric time

[balmy wolf]

like 1 am

[willow tartan]

afternoon is 1 am?

[balmy wolf]

no ur stupid

[willow tartan]

your the stupid one

[balmy wolf]

u think afternoon is before midday

so ur stupid

[willow tartan]

theres no such thing as midday

thats dumb

[balmy wolf]

cant fix stupid

[willow tartan]

its morning afternoon evening and night

[balmy wolf]

whaataatatat

then 10 am is morning u shitter

if u mean afternoon u mean 3 pm

[willow tartan]

????

[balmy wolf]

is ur head a cube???

[willow tartan]

3-8 morning
9-4 afternoon
5-7 evening
8-2 night

[balmy wolf]

cause that damn brain is thinking around corners

theres no way

u think that

3 am is not morning

what

[plush grail]

Cringe marbel

[willow tartan]

^^^

2 am is late at night. 3 am is early in morning

[balmy wolf]

hey bestie

[balmy wolf]

do we have afternoon rn?

[balmy wolf]

use books and start reading

also

https://tenor.com/view/touch-grass-touch-grass-gif-21734295

[willow tartan]

what are you telling me there is an international code for what is considered morning afternoon evening and night

the international code is mine is right and yours is wrong

[balmy wolf]

no but ur definition makes 0 sense

at all

[willow tartan]

well think abt it

[balmy wolf]

u think!!!!

[willow tartan]

morning starts at 3 because that's the earliest anyone will wake up for

[balmy wolf]

afternoon

before noon

[willow tartan]

like if you're going hiking you're never gonna wake up earlier than 3

[balmy wolf]

bro

thats some peak ass stupidity