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next mesa
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wtf

haughty crag
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im pretty sure hes saying that its not true

next mesa
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no i think he said

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wait for confirmation

somber latch
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deny*

haughty crag
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idk i didnt see it

next mesa
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which is probably a confirm

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tbh

haughty crag
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mmm im not gonna jump to conclusions until we see an announcement

somber latch
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as a shock fan this is the death of me

haughty crag
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same

next mesa
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im tuning into his stream

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did I miss anything for like the past 5 min

somber latch
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idk wasnt listening

haughty crag
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not really hes just been like talking about threads and shit

somber latch
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ok so just looked at the contract details (ik im late but whatever)

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pelican has the +1

gusty rampart
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So super isn't released?

somber latch
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so he is staying on reign?

gusty rampart
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I'm confused

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Tell me about the super tea

somber latch
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but it isnt confirmed nor denied

gusty rampart
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I don't want to live

noble nexus
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he was rumoured to be retiring with choi and now it's just choi retiring and super looking for another team

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apparently

gusty rampart
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Once again

tawdry hamlet
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on one hand I am sad shock split up but on the other hand

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I feel like this is the best way that the og roster can go out

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since dragging that slowly dying corpse another season probably wouldn't go well

gusty rampart
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@somber latch ?

tawdry hamlet
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unfortunately, imo it would be like if washington kept everyone, they have the on paper ability to be an ok roster but they would have a bad year

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I would rather all the pieces go somewhere they can be utilized instead, since nero would be much happier on a new team than another year with shock same with fd

tropic herald
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S5 Shock would be the equivalent of S3 Hangzhou

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If they kept everyone

tawdry hamlet
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s3 new york, bad at everything but full of fan favorites RADICAL

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I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish that team worked

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:((

gusty rampart
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s3 NYXL got work done

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Just didn't win shit

somber latch
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shock is the new nyxl

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unless they somehow get bqb/yaki proper/pelican

gusty rampart
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Bro idk if I'm a NYXL fan anymore since JJoNak left

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I may burn all my merch

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Refund all my skins

worn falcon
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S1 nyxl was the sweet spot

tawdry hamlet
worn falcon
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You can't refund your skins

gusty rampart
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I'll delete the account

balmy wolf
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i wish u could tho

tawdry hamlet
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sbb pine libero mano haksal whoru all on the same roster somehow, that sounds like the ideal nyxl omegalul

worn falcon
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I still have the Shadowburn philly gengo

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The nyxl tracer

tawdry hamlet
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the 5 dps setup 3Dlol

worn falcon
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Team colors

gusty rampart
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Bro SBB ;-;

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My heart

somber latch
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sbb was sad

tawdry hamlet
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he was there for the once in a lifetime shot that s4 had a double hitscan meta

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assuming it wasn't sombra tracer hanzo

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since profit plays 2 of those

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weeeeeeeee sbb :((((

gusty rampart
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I don't think xQc can count

tawdry hamlet
haughty crag
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xqc got 4 fingers on his hands

somber latch
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since when was sbb bad, i remember last season (s3) playoffs sbb kinda carried nyxl. its still sad

next mesa
tawdry hamlet
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yeah I meant he was good profits just covered literally every hero and snipers were irrelevant so his one shot at playing in double hitscan was gone 😦

next mesa
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they just removed 1 player from each team added some reworks and said "here u go"

gusty rampart
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Also kinda think SBB was benched for censorship

somber latch
tawdry hamlet
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it is a shame because profits covers
tracer sombra hanzo widow ashe mccree all better than sbb unfortunately the only way he would play is if like, we got a tracer reaper meta or some weird shit I think

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because fits has sombra and all the hitscans better besides tracer and profits has tracer and all the flex heroes better

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than sbb :(((

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so I really don't see a meta this last year he would fit in besides like reaper metas I guess

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like name a single meta in season 4 that justified sbb over profits

somber latch
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fair

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but sbb < contender players according to him

tawdry hamlet
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wish he fit though because sbb is my favorite og hitscan after sayaplayer

somber latch
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which i dont see true (if he is still as good as s3)

tawdry hamlet
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tbf saying contenders players are better than you isn't a bad thing, since like pelican came from contenders and was better than tons of established vets hehe

earnest leaf
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also depends on what contenders you're talking about

tawdry hamlet
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that as well

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sbb would farm au contenders 🙏

earnest leaf
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KR t2? probably some people better

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EU? nah you're still better

noble nexus
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yeah I'ma keep it real I could prolly farm AU contenders

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shits dreadful

haughty crag
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im a silver console player and i could farm au contenders

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and i am fucking australian

tawdry hamlet
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aside from the top 2 teams that are full of Koreans or the only notable au players it is literally like watching open division

haughty crag
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time to start a team and dominate

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who wants in

tawdry hamlet
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There is a full japanese team in au right

haughty crag
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willing to pay 1 cent

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uhh lemme check i dont keep up with it

tawdry hamlet
haughty crag
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jesus

tawdry hamlet
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but no jkap is the only au player who isn't a korean that has looked good in my recent memory

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shame we didn't get to see adam :((

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I wanted double au off tanks

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elva and harryko are in au contenders atm too

haughty crag
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i was about to bring up frogger and then i thought about that for a second

tawdry hamlet
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frogger !

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one of the 3 lucio one tricks I can think of

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it was always frogger redshell and the other one but I can't remember who

haughty crag
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swimmer?

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echoflex?

jagged viper
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i used to think of eskay too

tawdry hamlet
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anj is the lucio guy that played on avoided right

haughty crag
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o yeah eskay was a lucio one-trick

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kinda

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anj ive never heard of

tawdry hamlet
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he is currently on aww yeah or was

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wait that is weird his profile doesn't say he was on aww yeah but it also says aww yeah was his new team that is strange

gusty rampart
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It boggles me how good Aww Yeah does

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Same with Avoided and MindfreakG

tawdry hamlet
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eu contenders Salutations

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avoided almost beat british hurricane last year during hurricanes dominant time

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lmao

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they took 2 maps iirc

gusty rampart
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MindfreakG is the best Overwatch team of all time

tawdry hamlet
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lolll mindfreak with frogger was so assss

noble nexus
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S4 Valiant would like to have a word

gusty rampart
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I want Frogger back in Contenders

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Actually made it fun to watch

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He probably got kicked out for match fixing

tawdry hamlet
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fuckin cuffa frogger carter

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what a roster

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I miss my man jordation tho

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jordation has 6 contenders au titles lmaooo

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literally farming

haughty crag
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sign me to mindfreak bro im a plat tank im the best on the team easily

tawdry hamlet
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gets first in his region 6 times across 2 years of consistent play, only made this much

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being in a bad region does players so dirty lmaoo

haughty crag
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in australian dollars thats a fuckton

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we are

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so poor

tawdry hamlet
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36k au dollars

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soggy on mindfreak is the only active Singaporean player

next mesa
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Proper better than like everyone but 5 players if he comes

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And even those are debatable just gotta see him fuck

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Now if some guy like illicit or some bot na dps

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Or like kaffeeeeee

tawdry hamlet
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better than I will ever be but actual shitter on social media kek

next mesa
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Bro he's been hard stuck bottom of eu for like what 2 years

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Actually feel so bad

tawdry hamlet
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old n bored has been a tragedy, it was made for streamer to play together but he gave the spot to kafee when he realized they couldn't live stream their games and now kafee finally after a year is dropping the old n bored name and rebranding

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with new faces that I have not really heard of

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so probably a bottom 5 again unfortunately

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pretty sure autumnsouls was the best player they ever had lmao

next mesa
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for sure

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it sucks that we wont be able to see redbirdvs falcon

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;-;

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Dude

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That means he's gonna sign w atlanta

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wait no

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just 5v5 things

somber latch
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bro i just wanna see some signings

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its been 2 days all ive seen are releases

tired sequoia
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I don't think any teams are gonna sign anyone

gusty rampart
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You would be dead wrong

willow tartan
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Nah bro. Florida is going to only field Yaki

tiny pollen
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violet will play on six computers at once

willow tartan
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five

somber latch
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six for substitution smh

willow tartan
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he wouldnt be playing six at the same time

somber latch
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you know, subs gotta be ready

earnest leaf
worldly flax
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since sfshock only has viol2t signed...they technically have a full korean roster

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🏃

earnest leaf
forest raven
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THE BALENCIAGAS noooo

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THE FUCKING GOLD CHAINS

vagrant cargo
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shock getting pelican?

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W

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finally a championship calibre fdps

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nvm fake Account

forest raven
balmy wolf
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lol rolled

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by fake account

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imagine

vagrant cargo
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bro i just woke up

balmy wolf
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and u can go to bed again shitter

vagrant cargo
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:(

somber latch
tawdry hamlet
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Gesture retired

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Another season 1 og down

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Gesture SBB 😭

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I don't even like gesture as a player just sad to see a long time face go lmaoo

fickle flicker
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is there any idea roughly when owl starts again?

somber latch
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april 2022

fickle flicker
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sadge

somber latch
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indeed

north relic
plush grail
devout path
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Bye gesture 😭

vagrant cargo
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wait moth is an FA?

somber latch
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ya

vagrant cargo
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damn

somber latch
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but to where will he go

tawdry hamlet
somber latch
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o7

tawdry hamlet
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apac orgs always go hard on thanking their veterans Salutations

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!jumbo Salutations

young fractalBOT
north relic
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Thinking about it none of the main supports sound that strong in ow2

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Ofc they are subject to change

somber latch
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lucio?

stuck radish
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i still think mercy will be stupidly strong in ow2 purely because of damage boost

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pocketed hitscan will be so busted in ow2

somber latch
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her healing sucks

stuck radish
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yeah but you dont use her for healing

somber latch
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ana?

sullen berry
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and her super jump won't be leaving anytime soon

plush grail
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A new person!

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!!welcome

young fractalBOT
sullen berry
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lsd?

north relic
plush grail
sullen berry
worldly flax
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"pro gamer Gesture, but I will never forget all the emotions and the love that I got.

Thank you again, and, hopefully, I will be back in the near future to share my future career. " PogChimp is gesture gonna be a streamer?

north relic
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Coach more likely though

next mesa
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Fuck yeah fuck yeah

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We keep profit gesture retires best case scenario

final musk
final musk
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I bet they figure out what meta comes out of that and decide against removing it

somber latch
final musk
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Imagine diver pressure without a Dva to Peel because 5v5

final musk
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Yeah I mean Winston looks borderline overtuned with the new right click

somber latch
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can don potentialy 130 burst dmg

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rly good for a dive hero

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its hitscan as well

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the right click

final musk
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Yuuup. Sounds like a good reason to bring back that stun.

next mesa
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5v5 so fucking stupid dude

north relic
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There we go

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Levy do the thing

final musk
somber latch
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if ow2 goes back to 6v6 somehow, itl just feel like a big f u to the owl teams releasing players bc of it

final musk
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It’s not going to 6v6

somber latch
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if

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a man can dream

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but yea

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it wont

final musk
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But I bet there’s going to be a big balance pass that adds mitigation tools because losing a tank is going to be a clusterfuck

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Without proper mitigation

somber latch
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mitigation for what

final musk
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Raw damage and dives.

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Like, how much damage does a Dva eat in a single match? Way more than she puts out. Same with every off tank other than hog and maybe Zarya.

somber latch
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well then its goats all over again (a meta built on sustainablity to big burst damage aka dive to counter it)

final musk
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That damage is now flying around. And the meta is going to be super divey.

somber latch
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i like playing winston more than something like double shield so im perfectly fine with it

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support mains wont though

final musk
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Oh I am a ball main. I’m going to be fine.

somber latch
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so i guess you are right

final musk
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But gawd bless those brigs.

somber latch
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but one of the main balance changes to ow2 is reducing cc

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because not playing the game, is not fun

final musk
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Agreed. Dps should have no CC effects

somber latch
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support?

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ana got her cd adjusted

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brig bash got removed completely

final musk
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Supports should.

somber latch
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i can get ana

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since its very skill based

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at least it looks like it

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i dont play ana

final musk
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I mean a good Ana fucks me over x5 worse on Ball than a Brig.

somber latch
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for dps i play tracer a lotand brig just makes me want to cry as her

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but eh

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opinions

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they exist

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no clue how the reducing of cc will impact owl

final musk
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Heh yeah, past a certain point brig is more of a problem on Tracer. But antis slow down my pathing on Ball so they are so much worse.

somber latch
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i cant tell if i hate or love antis

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they good but like not the most anoying thing ever

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still kinda anoying doe

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but the comp scene wont change much from what i know

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maybe the replacements for the cc would impact it?

final musk
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Gonna stop cluttering this channel now though.

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Esports etc

north relic
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? It gets 2 messages a day anyway

somber latch
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i just want signing news

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thats all i want

jagged viper
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i would’ve thought the start of the free sgency with be loud and have way more news than this

devout path
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Yeah

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I think most teams want to wait to see what ow2 is before picking up players

devout path
plush grail
balmy wolf
devout path
plush grail
balmy wolf
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what does it mean tho?

devout path
next mesa
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Ninek and crusty

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Gonna be unstoppable

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I'm curious to see who they sign 🙏

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Crusty

plush grail
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ive got some unsalted nuts here

next mesa
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Striker

plush grail
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lily can u help me with the salt

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cause ur always salty

next mesa
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Bruh antonym is the antonym of synonym

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🗿

devout path
hot onyx
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Overwatch 2 open beta when?

plush grail
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speak english

balmy wolf
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fr

plush grail
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the fusion graphic looks like a dirty mirror

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what the fuck

hot onyx
next mesa
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Yoink

hot onyx
tropic herald
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Only three left and they seem like the ones that have owl potential

hot onyx
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Ezhan Someone and Superrich

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I would’ve suggested Innovation as a backup because his tracer is cracked but after the slaughterfest of a season they had a rebuild is in order

next mesa
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He's getting in owl

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Innovation is too cracked cmon

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Half amigod spectra was meh

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Woohyal someone i think their synergy wasn't there

worn falcon
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aimgod was a chad

sacred saffron
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what do u guys think new meta will be with 5 v5 in ow2

balmy wolf
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zen brig tracer sombra dva

sacred saffron
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why dva as a tank tho with no sheild @balmy wolf

sullen berry
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I'd be down for that storyline

worn falcon
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one of the og mt

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sadge

sacred saffron
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can u elaborate tho Lol

balmy wolf
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defense matrix

sacred saffron
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that last for like 8 seconds lol

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I just personally dont think dva as an only tank is meta idk

devout path
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Philly getting good coaching???

trail perch
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Shields are practicely useless rn

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for the record

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and Dva solo tank is busted

sacred saffron
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hm idk

trail perch
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Not only does she have 100% damage mitigation

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For burst damage

devout path
trail perch
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She also can negat eults

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and she can peel

devout path
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We haven’t seen orisa nor sigma yet

trail perch
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as well as dive

sacred saffron
devout path
sacred saffron
devout path
sacred saffron
# devout path You shut up

U started this, hope ur morning is good, doesnt seem like its going to well cursing to randoms on the internet

devout path
sacred saffron
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There was no need for it? Wtf u mean

digital cloud
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So who is ready for more owl drops

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This guy

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But who else

plush grail
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stop fighting children

sacred saffron
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u saw it stopped already. And ur bio basically says ur the child here

trail perch
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Please settle down children dont make daddy empathy get involved

north relic
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Fight fight fight

north relic
trail perch
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Hahahah imagine being the sort of LOSER that would do that

idle marten
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somebody in chat said 3 people left shanghai

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who left?

north relic
idle marten
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was develop playing in the championship?

north relic
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Diem and erster retired mid season develop left after the season

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Develop didn’t play at all

idle marten
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ooh ok, thanks

north relic
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Replace blase with chipsa 5head

gusty rampart
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Who is that guy

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I swear I know him

noble nexus
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Chipsa's brother

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also the only reason chipsa ever touched owl

mortal abyss
trail perch
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Just finished watching contenders KR finals

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I been putting it off for awhile

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If either of those teams has a single of age player not in owl next year

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The GMs are throwing

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Expect for like Kuki

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Kilo*

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He wasn’t that good

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Also Mer1ts really cute

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Both of those team would take maps off Shanghai tho

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And def beat Atlanta prob 4-1

twin bloom
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Yeah man wgs pheonix

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Really showed the skill

trail perch
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??

twin bloom
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Of KR contenders

trail perch
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Wgs didn’t play

twin bloom
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In OWL

trail perch
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??????

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Pelican????

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Mag????

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Assassin???

twin bloom
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They were good lol

trail perch
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All of 2019 vanc titans???

twin bloom
trail perch
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2019 Shanghai??

twin bloom
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Lmao

trail perch
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I don’t think you understand how good Kr contenders is…

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The best KR contenders players are the best owl players

twin bloom
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KR contenders isn't as good as it once was

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In 2019

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Its still good

trail perch
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Wrong.

twin bloom
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But not top OWl good

trail perch
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Finn exists

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Proper exists

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Ado

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Mer1t

twin bloom
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Some of the individual players

trail perch
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Heesang

twin bloom
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Like pelican

trail perch
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Max

twin bloom
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Proper

trail perch
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It’s whole rosters lmao

twin bloom
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Are nuts and top OWL

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Easily

trail perch
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All of o2 blast

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As a team.

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Would be 2nd best in owl last season

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With meta

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They have better dps than Dallas

twin bloom
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Boston signed the core of WGS

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And lost to Titans

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Lol

trail perch
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Yeah wgs got lucky one meta

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Lmao

twin bloom
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True

trail perch
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They did well at the end

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With Valentine Echo

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ace tracer

twin bloom
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I think in 2019 KR contenders was just better OWL

trail perch
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Aztac support

twin bloom
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But rn

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Maybe Mid table

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Owl

trail perch
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Boston didn’t use good parts of WGS

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They didn’t get Muze

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They didn’t get Aztac

twin bloom
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Yeah

trail perch
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They didn’t get Ace

twin bloom
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Muze- stand 1

trail perch
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Therefore no win

twin bloom
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Was a huge

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Downgrade

trail perch
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They lost the synergy by losing the main tank

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But current o2 and talon

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Would each make Hawaii

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And prob beat Dallas

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They have better dps lines

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And better supports

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And prob worse tanks but not worse enough to lose a match

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They would all beat Atlanta in the current meta

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Cause ball is just so much better than rush

twin bloom
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I think they play ATL close but don't beat them

trail perch
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In any match with ball, I prefer t1 talon and o2 over any owl team not names Shanghai

twin bloom
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ATL was better than every team besides shanghai

trail perch
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Atl proved they can’t beat ball

twin bloom
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They nearly beat chengdu

trail perch
twin bloom
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But choked

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Do to c9

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Sad

trail perch
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The ball play from talon and o2 is prob better than chengdu

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And the tracer play is def equal

twin bloom
trail perch
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Glads where Gladis

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And brought them to kings row

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Right?

twin bloom
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TBF

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Glads could have easily

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Won KR

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They choked it away

trail perch
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Every team brought Atlanta to their best map in the game

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For some reason

tropic herald
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It was Glads series to lose and they lost

trail perch
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Yeah

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I’m just saying

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watching KR finals

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These 2 teams could make grand finals

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And take more maps than Atlanta did

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They are more adaptable

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With significantly better supports

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And just as much if not more firepower

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And tanks that are objectively better

tropic herald
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I think Talon and O2 are good but I don’t think you can say they take maps off Shanghai

mortal abyss
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I think it’s just that reign suck vs APAC teams but against NA teams is where they thrive

trail perch
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I think they can def take maps

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I don’t think they can win

tropic herald
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Atlanta also got the scrim Shanghai buff

trail perch
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Yeah

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And they still couldn’t win

tropic herald
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Who would’ve lol

trail perch
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They couldn’t win a map*

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Not expecting anyone to win a series

tropic herald
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Once ur down multiple maps winning one back isn’t easy

trail perch
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Shanghai did it to Dallas

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Talon did it to o2

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Ua did it to redbird

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Shock did it to dragons in stage 3 2019

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KR contenders right now will be owl champions next year

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Just u wait

tropic herald
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The ratio of that actually happening is still pretty low

trail perch
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The players currently playing in KR contenders

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Will be hoisting the trophy next year

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That was my new word today

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Hoist

tropic herald
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I think parts of o2 n Talon n T1 will be good but I don’t think any of those teams individually would make it super far in playoffs

trail perch
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I think o2 and talon would

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T1 maybe not

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Talon has popoff potential and insane synergy

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With some of the best individual talent in the world

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Heesang, Ch0rong, Vigilante

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And o2 has it all

tropic herald
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Yeah but Proper

trail perch
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Yeah proper would make it so fucking far

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Proper could just win

tropic herald
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Proper gonna be the first rookie MVP

trail perch
#

Proper is pelican with a better tracer

#

and hitscan

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Proper now is better than pelican now cause proper was forced to grow as a player and fill a differnet roll

#

while pelican just excelled in his role

next mesa
#

Proper was always more hitscan oriented though

#

When he played w pelican

willow tartan
#

proper to nyxl troel

next mesa
#

Also how far those players go depends on the team they're going

next mesa
willow tartan
#

both can be true

trail perch
willow tartan
#

korean rookie prospect gets signed to the dragons and rots on the bench for a year troel

trail perch
#

the hyperflexiest of the hyperflex

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cause hes the best hitscan and the best flex in korea

#

imo thats the perfect dps duo

#

a hyperflex and a fdps

willow tartan
#

nah fuck that proper guy i want an out of nowhere player one trick their way to an MVP on a broken new hero

next mesa
trail perch
#

Eh 2 hyper flexes are tricky

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Cause they usually play a lot of tracer

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So you need to decide which one plays tracer

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And a lot of hyperflexes don’t play sombra much

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But FDPS players do

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So I think that FDPS and Hyperflex is the best dip

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Duo*

hot onyx
trail perch
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Yeah but as a full team they wouldn’t make it that far in playoffs

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I think they have incredible players

hot onyx
#

Aight true

trail perch
#

Also how do we feel about unique to Dallas?

hot onyx
#

Pick and mix the goat players from each team for an ez win ig

trail perch
#

For the new MA

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MS*

trail perch
#

Proper Heesang dps

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Clestyn Junbin tank

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And FiNN Ch0rong sup

hot onyx
#

Proper MN3 Heesang Clestyn Kellan Sanguinaar Finn

trail perch
#

I think

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Sanguinar plays for TDI

hot onyx
#

No he plays for BM Hawk

trail perch
#

And I think Vindaim chorong and Chiyo r prob better

#

Oh he does?

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My B

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Tdi and bm r the same to me lmao

hot onyx
#

And Sanguinaar is really good especially when he was on O2

trail perch
#

Yeah but Vindaim and Chorong

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And Chiyo

hot onyx
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Maybe

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Or hear me out

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Superrich

trail perch
#

Does he speak KR?

hot onyx
#

Team CC is pretty much all KR now so yeah

trail perch
#

I think Hunters might get him tho if they don’t figure out motivation

#

Or maybe if he wants to go to Spark!

hot onyx
#

I know Innovation Aimgod Someone and Woohyal are Korean

trail perch
#

Didn’t he change his name

#

?

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Haioqyan I think now

hot onyx
#

Yeah something like that

trail perch
#

But I think he might go to spark

next mesa
#

Nah

hot onyx
#

But 9/10 people still call him Superrich

trail perch
#

Cause they would promote LiGe

#

And maybe grab 1987

#

From the bench

next mesa
trail perch
#

Unique used to be on the OG arm

hot onyx
#

Even the casters call him Superrich

trail perch
#

Em*

next mesa
#

They could've signed unique last year

trail perch
#

That’s the only reason I say that

next mesa
#

Yeah I know

trail perch
next mesa
#

It's why people were speculating too

trail perch
#

But now he’s back and good again

next mesa
#

Nah he was LFT

trail perch
#

But he had a good year since then

next mesa
#

Just on team diamond

#

Yeah idk

#

I think Dallas can do better

trail perch
#

Probably could

next mesa
#

Also it's haoyoqian

hot onyx
#

“The DallasFuel Dallas Fuel announce the signing of main support Support Ansoonjae”

next mesa
#

Not that it really matters

trail perch
#

Maybe chiyo to wj?

next mesa
#

Maybe

#

I think Dallas seoul philly are gonna lock vindaim Chiyo chorong

hot onyx
#

“The Dallas Fuel announce the signing of fdps Guard”

trail perch
#

Philly?

next mesa
#

And wj and defiant will be like t2

trail perch
#

R they going to drop Astro?

next mesa
#

Yes because they can play w alarm

#

Astro is free agent

hot onyx
#

People are rumouring Fusion are going all kr

trail perch
#

Yeah but resigning

next mesa
#

Idk

trail perch
#

They had EQO FA last year

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Then resigned him

#

Remember Philly actually cares for their players

hot onyx
#

This is the third time EQO went FA

trail perch
#

I think someone said that at some point

#

So they let their players get their full value

#

By seeing how much they get offered in FA then just pay then that much

next mesa
#

True

#

In that case

#

Seoul dallas

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Get one of 3

#

Who's the best out of them

#

Kinda hard to say right

hot onyx
#

Lego ez

next mesa
#

I think Chiyo better mercy than vindaim but vindaim better brig but not sure

hot onyx
#

Dallas drop Fielder for Quasid

#

Big up

vagrant cargo
#

i think NYXL gets a pretty cracked team

last nimbus
#

chipsa bro to spitfire

#

lole

willow tartan
#

Chipsa to spitfire Pog

hot onyx
#

Nepotism 2 Electric Boogaloo

mortal abyss
#

Wasn’t chris the only fusion coach that didn’t want chipsa on the team

hot onyx
#

Yes he was but that escaped my mind for a brief millisecond

twin bloom
#

Chipsa wasn't nepotism

#

It was a marketing thing

#

For homestands

earnest leaf
#

It would have been nepotism if he played a bunch

#

but he ran it down mid for a map and rode the bench

next mesa
#

His doom doe 👌

devout path
#

Bye bye iris

balmy wolf
#

Bye iris

#

Great player

#

Pick him up

devout path
devout path
tacit skiff
#

F

#

ratlanta loses another goat

balmy wolf
devout path
balmy wolf
devout path
#

?

balmy wolf
#

u good?

north relic
#

3/4 of the league iris is an upgrade

weak bolt
#

Problem for Iris is you also have Twilight, Jjonak and Myunbong all FA lol

north relic
#

iris is probably the best out of them but i can easily see an argument for twilight

tawdry hamlet
#

iris is far better than myunbong lmao

#

why wouldn't Boston want him

#

twilight is the only veteran support free agent better than him on the market rn iirc

#

jjonak too but jjonak wouldn't leave apac I think

north relic
#

it hurts to say but iris>jjonak

tawdry hamlet
north relic
#

iris' only better hero than twilight is bap but they are both solid on every fs

hot onyx
next mesa
#

so when is the dev team saying "sike" and going back to 6v6?

hot onyx
#

Probably during a similar “throw for Dafran” purge where people queue for tank and leave afterwards since nobody wants to be told “go rein we need a shield” below diamond

twin bloom
tropic herald
#

iris for sure the best one at the moment

earnest leaf
#

I'd take twilight's zen/ana over all of them tbh

tropic herald
#

hard to say how good twilight is when hes barely played

twin bloom
#

Iris bap built different

hot onyx
#

Iris was literally top 5 last season idk why some people underrate him

tropic herald
#

its gotta be like

twin bloom
hot onyx
#

Flex support wise

twin bloom
#

0ther than a few maps

tropic herald
#

iris twilight n gnj are the ones you want

twin bloom
#

Bap just fit

tropic herald
#

ideally iris

twin bloom
#

With ATLS comps

#

They liked rush and DS

tropic herald
#

who gonna pick up iris doe

#

new york n toronto come to mind first

#

boston

tacit skiff
earnest leaf
#

It's hard to rate his ana and zen, but from what I saw they were pretty good

earnest leaf
#

Just iris has only played about 3 hours of ana/zen this year

tropic herald
#

not his fault tbh

earnest leaf
#

yea atl just likes bapt comps

tacit skiff
#

Ojee and Ultraviolet better really turn up the heat

tropic herald
#

no ball or monkey so why do you need to play ana that much

tropic herald
north relic
twin bloom
#

It's funny

#

0

tacit skiff
twin bloom
#

K

tropic herald
tropic herald
#

also AT were really good when ball meta was strongest

#

and that ball comp is so backline dependent

earnest leaf
twin bloom
#

Iris played NA contenders

#

So did Kai gator and Hawk

#

So NA>>EU

tropic herald
#

i just hope some teams that arent from china try china talent

#

theres some really good players there

#

also na

#

na n china get overlooked so much :/

hot onyx
earnest leaf
tacit skiff
#

pov old news

hot onyx
twin bloom
#

Shu also played NA contenders

earnest leaf
#

suck my balls shitters

twin bloom
#

Wow NA so goated

tacit skiff
#

no

twin bloom
#

Import talent

next mesa
#

UV Hydron and Reiner are why AT so good

twin bloom
#

Carrying the region

#

Sad

next mesa
#

yes

twin bloom
next mesa
#

hopefully tr33 becomes speedily 2.0

tawdry hamlet
#

remember that sigma guy who came in and farmed on tracer on ping then retired a month later. that is import talent carrying the region hehe

twin bloom
#

Hydron is replaceable

#

I feel

next mesa
earnest leaf
#

hydron is hitscan

next mesa
#

although like I agree ojee >> lukemino

earnest leaf
#

Could easily grab some KR hitscan and be good

next mesa
#

speedily and iron/false/cucumber

#

replacable

tropic herald
twin bloom
next mesa
#

yeah but for example bobby wasabi had 3 members too

#

got rolled

tropic herald
#

bobby wasabi had uh

twin bloom
#

Speed ojee frill uv

#

Carry of AT

tropic herald
#

hydration on mt

twin bloom
#

Bobby didn't have a HS

#

Player

#

Had a FS on 300

#

Ping

tawdry hamlet
#

hydration ball wasn't bad that series in fairness he is far from the reason they lost lmao

next mesa
#

better than almost every na contenders

twin bloom
#

And a Hydration

next mesa
#

yeah thats true sirmajed

tawdry hamlet
#

sirmajed goated SHEESH

next mesa
#

he's pretty good

tawdry hamlet
#

the saudi players all turned it up this year for sure

next mesa
#

tbh if redbirds played falcon

tawdry hamlet
#

there are like 5 notable ones now instead of 2 so they are making big steps

next mesa
#

they would 4-0

last nimbus
#

Is j1n a good coach

next mesa
#

sad no gauntlet

#

yes

#

T1 has been good

tacit skiff
#

watching Custa go over the off-season news and even he's confused why Boston let go of Myunbong

tawdry hamlet
#

also of note the saudi tourneys pay like 3 times as much as contenders paid lmao so falcons had to beat a bunch of no liquidpedia page andys and got 60k

#

wild

tropic herald
#

ok

tropic herald
#

BiliBili Redbird Falcon and O2

#

rank them

last nimbus
#

I sometimes think owl teams have something up their sleeve like a tactic or something

#

but then they just suck ass

tawdry hamlet
#

falcon on the bottom even if they are better than they were heh

tacit skiff
#

hopefully

last nimbus
#

iris prob best bap in the league

tropic herald
#

LJG bap 🐐

tacit skiff
#

I don't think they'd met Myunbong get away that easily if they didn't have a replacement planned, he was the best part of the team.

next mesa
tawdry hamlet
#

I would probably do O2 BLG Redbird Falcon

tropic herald
#

i dont watch bilibili enough to know how goo d they are i just know they are good

#

pineapple to shock Prayge

next mesa
#

o2blast sometimes looks like a 1 man show

tropic herald
#

tbf

#

proper

#

is just

#

proper good

tawdry hamlet
#

nah Boston dropped myunbong to run it back with aimgod now that he is back on the scene troll_smoshed

next mesa
#

bilibili

#

this year

#

I dont know why they put minor for contenders

#

team chasers got "upset" by up this season

#

actually got swept I think

#

ohh cuz theres 2 regular seasons

#

for some reason

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean chaser up and blg are the only teams in china that matter

next mesa
#

yes

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
#

and up barely mattered until recently lolll

next mesa
#

u could say the same thing about t1 o2 and talon for korea too

#

team cc not relevant anymore

tawdry hamlet
#

oh cc just dropped everyone today tf

next mesa
#

when they were relevant sadge

tawdry hamlet
#

yeehaw

next mesa
#

sign innovation maybe

#

sus

tawdry hamlet
#

they kept someone and haoyoqian

#

sadge haoyoqian make owl already bro pls

tropic herald
tawdry hamlet
#

the art of the deal

tropic herald
#

Tbf CC was pretty meh this season

next mesa
#

there's not many good korea main tanks

tawdry hamlet
#

diya still hasn't said a word which is sadge

next mesa
#

only kellan is of age

tawdry hamlet
#

it has been a year since he left the team and we have heard nothing :((

#

Diya my beloved

next mesa
#

:(

humble yarrow
#

Christopher might make London good

tawdry hamlet
#

pretty crazy to think young and beautiful first fabulous fighter runaway like this player and Element Mystic are all gone now

#

Saudi eLeauges when they out prize pool the devs tier 2 for a minor tourney

#

sheesh

gusty rampart
#

Falcon eSports beat the shit out of EU Contenders

tawdry hamlet
#

that was the all saudi version of the team, the eu version of the team also has had lots of success too

#

big moneys for da org

#

since they are winning in saudi and eu

tropic herald
#

🐐

next mesa
#

Finn>iris

trim shadow
#

i hate atlanta UY99_codm_kek

#

just reawoken the bad taste in my mouth for the falcons with dropping iris

earnest leaf
willow tartan
earnest leaf
#

smurf is actually the best mt on the market rn

next mesa
#

nah usually they put major for contenders playoffs

willow tartan
#

o

next mesa
#

vindaim chorong over jecse but agree

#

yeah but Im wrong

#

I think its wack

#

they have 2 regular seasons

#

so thats regular seasons

#

which is pretty wack

next mesa
#

wonder how many teams in his dms rn

#

hey u know what shanghai really needs a TRACER PLAYER

#

SS tracer instead of 2 S tracers

#

🙏

earnest leaf
#

I just want shock to get a wicked roster

#

Keep super, get strilker/pelican

#

maybe say fuck it and grab jecse

barren quest
#

Isn't Masaa FA

next mesa
#

crusty and ninek together scouting next level

#

they're gonna sign like some streamer

#

harbleu

#

🙏 🙏

#

They're still going mixed right

#

maybe either hydron or reiner

next mesa
#

I think the fact that hunters kept all 4 of their dps

#

means that they're not gonna bring apr1ta..

worn falcon
earnest leaf
#

It's the same thing as last season

#

His contract expired and became a FA

#

Last year he never did a LFTK, same so far for this year

#

Though i'm sure he's getting offers since he got them last year

gusty rampart
#

super probably won't leave Shock tbh

north relic
gusty rampart
#

But any other team picking him up would be a massive W for them

earnest leaf
#

I could maybe see him leaving for a team to be with old teammates

#

Since everyone is gone besides viol2t

#

But he's been shock's poster boy since the league started

gusty rampart
#

He's the face of OWL

tropic herald
#

Super to Houston yeep

gusty rampart
#

Possibly

forest raven
#

I'd rather super to philly than that

gusty rampart
#

If super goes to Houston I'm going a state down to Houston to meet

raw ermine
#

super to philly would be epic gamer moment

gusty rampart
#

TRUEING

#

Unless it's APAC still

#

I ain't staying up until 4 am to watch

north relic
#

have they shown the cc spray yet

tawdry hamlet
#

yo this spray is fucking sick

north relic
#

it works well with the halloween background also

#

so have they shown the cc spray yet

tawdry hamlet
#

don'

#

t think so

twin bloom
earnest leaf
#

only on lucio tbh

hot onyx
north relic
hot onyx
#

Jecse just does well depending on what team he has around him

#

Most players do but particularly Jecse since he’s a player whose skill depends on his peers

#

Look at when Rapel was in the starting lineup in that Paris match, he played like ass there

#

Vs when Fielder came back in for the Shock match his game improved

north relic
hot onyx
#

And I believe he is a mechanically gifted feeder so I would take Jecse

jolly oracle
north relic
hot onyx
next mesa
#

Ljg best MS in the game

#

By such a large margin

hot onyx
#

Mechanically yes

#

Definitely large arguments to be made for specific heroes

#

FunnyAstro and Moth on lucio

#

Skewed brig

#

Jake mercy

#

But FJG has all 3 perfected and is a mechanical warlord

#

If only he would stay in his teams backline every so often

north relic
#

i feel like the only ms ljg is #1 on is lucio

#

probably #2 on brig mercy though

hot onyx
#

Damn I’m completely the opposite

#

Harder to feed as brig and mercy

north relic
#

you think ljg is better than skewed brig and yveltal mercy?

hot onyx
#

Better no

north relic
#

i can see a mercy argument but sometimes he gets creative

hot onyx
#

But I do not think Lucio is his best hero

north relic
#

yea, its gotta be his bap

hot onyx
#

Astro Moth and even FDGod are all more solid and consistent picks for lucio imo

#

But his best hero is zen

#

No capital

#

🇰🇿

tropic herald
#

Something something Lucio

#

@ me next time Lucio is hard meta in APAC 🤒

mortal cipher
#

he just went insane on lucio but hes good on mercy and bap mostly from wot ive seen

haughty crag
#

alright its time to find out

mortal cipher
#

lmbao

north relic
mortal cipher
#

i saw

#

so glads striker???

noble nexus
#

jebait prolly

#

if not

tawdry hamlet
#

If not a jebait it's a good pickup except for Sombra

noble nexus
#

I'm fucking ecstatic

tawdry hamlet
#

Kevster will have to pick up Sombra I'd assume

noble nexus
#

Kevster prolly has an alright sombra atleast

tawdry hamlet
#

Probably

mortal cipher
#

most likely

#

we just have to see wot happens

#

when the signing for players start

noble nexus
#

hopefully glads are willing to spend stacks on players again after it worked out for them this season

mortal cipher
#

yeah

earnest leaf
#

that fake striker has been chilling in ranked for a while

jagged viper
#

doesx anyone have hybrid whiff clips

mortal cipher
#

lol

next mesa
#

Ljg best brig skewed second

hot onyx
tawdry hamlet
#

Jake mercy is literally what happens when you tell your teammate in ranked to pocket you so you can carry

next mesa
#

Yes yes

mortal cipher
#

thats me but it works

#

minus people telling me

digital cloud
#

lol

next mesa
#

ooo aspen p3tal

digital cloud
#

man I remember when TI used to have a good team

tawdry hamlet
#

cursed

next mesa