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striker and pelican on shock would be epic
Smurf ball is good
Going to Boston
Pelican for Viol2t?
Nah
striker goes back to boston
Lori would rather valentine
No just no
Not at all
They’re picking at backline right
pelican getting traded for shock money 👍
sad to see Pelican leave
At least if halo is right
Lily on crack
Ofc they do
So i could see rhem going big and invest into pelican ninek twilight etc
Glads have a lot too I think cause of KSE
Pelican to apac
No way glads have a lot
KSE dropped 5 billion on a stadium so ehh
He would stay if he wants to be in Na
glads have loads
Keeping a top tier player like kevster is expensive
Pelican is going to APAC for sure
u dont get kevster space shu and moth
100%
for no money
maybe he wants to be on a more mixed team
space had a 300k contract
Pelican for alarm?
and kevster apereantly rejected a 350k offer from Atlanta pre glads
Wait no
Also Atlanta got UV
Nah alarm would be a downgrade
?????
Yes but they are owned by KSE who can afford a lot of football players and esports contracts aren't that expensive compared to football
Over UV
is that satire
Marbel being dumb
only 2 koreasn players
it was korean eu and na
That is in fact satire with a lil bit of truth
he doesn't want to be mixed
its really obvious
he wants to be in a full korean roster
im going to miss the gator pelican moments
Cause y’all are underrating UV
He’s not better than alarm tho lol
it be funny if uv went to shock so it would have both violet and ultraviolet
mfs overrated contenders players so gotta be skeptical
ofc
imagine yznsa in owl lol
Alarm goat fs
Im just careful w any Player out of EU or NA tier 2
that guy is no teamplayer
because both Regions aint good
Someone announce Vancouver getting dropped plz
farming bots isnt hard
like uprising acad would be like 6th in KR and they are easily top 2 in NA
I’m just so excited for this off season
na contenders is like 4 good teams
Basically everyone is a fa
yeah
more like 2 good teams
my guess is the first contract will be signed 3 days from now
how much does eu besides falcon is there
EU has Individual talent
but no coaching
and no money
the quality of teams is below NA
falcon is only team with money
but id say Talent wise EU is better
yeah
EU has more talent yes
but not alot
its around the same with NA
Korea on the other hand
the only significant teams in eu ive seen is British Hurricane and Falcon Esports
Basically
Shu's money crew has been growing steadily too but not much more ngl
and ig the only other i can think of is Aw Yeah
Hey Lethal/Sauna/Solar/whatever name he feels like this weekend is a fantastic hitscan
I think its like Falcon Esports > British Hurricane > Shus money crew > Sheer cold > Aww yeah
yeah
and the rest of the teams are just absolute garbage
Falcon had like 3 back to back wins
Yeah
each time they sweept British Hurricane
Hybrid to Paris
I think last finals was smc v falcons
oh right
NA has no coaching either
a lot better theb EU still
wasnt hybrid in OWL before or is that a different Hybrid
Same Hybrid da goat
Iirc he had a two way contract
so hes trying to come back to the League after he left Outlaws after beating Shock
wot does that mean exactly
Or he went to Spitfire and got reinstated in Hurricane this season or something
He plays for both teams basically
ooh
last time i saw him play was on lijang agaisnt shock with outlaws
is he trying to come back
LFT OWL 2022 - Main DPS
Looking forward to a new start
Wide hero pool including various FDPS heroes
Contact me on Discord: Hybrid#4410 or message dave@seg.gg
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Are we talking about the same player?
i might be thinking of Hydration
He wants to get off the london teams so bad lmao
makes sense hes been on Hurricane too long
frowner so sexy
Two way means you play for the overwatch league team and the contenders team
Yveltal plays for the hunters and chaser for example

yeah
Secoe?
kevster looking at the FA's when his contract is until 2023: 
id smash
lol
owl deserving
lol
everybody whiffs
idk if thats a hanzo footwork diff or if the cree just whiffed
both mebe
12 times in a row
if you guys put up halo's tweet about leaving half as much as you put up this hybrid gif you might actually be reasonable people
its happened more times than i wouldve liked
fr
what halos tweet
we play overwatch what do you expect from us
I am just memeing about how everybody here loves halo and I don't because he said that he was gonna leave if he fucked up a report and then he fucked up a report
and here he still is
which one
the one about Third Impact to Vancouver
ah
I would prefer if he was still here than if he was t
I am sure most people do, I am just commenting that from my perspective hybrid gets a lot of "hate" but halo got a free pass
but I am just salty about it in general so
just memeing
oh look levy is here
titans being shit org
We don’t hate hybrid for that clip
I know you don't, that is why I put it quotes
lol
Halo
dude should've just used fan the hammer 
fr
wasnt the whole point of this vancouver roster was to make a underdog team
no it was a shitty roster because they didnt want to spend more money
not to make an underdog team
they were just underdogs because they were shit
yea it wasnt a good roster but the vancouver org was obsessed with a underdog team
and i guess they have something to work with
they had jack shit at tank thi
tho*
they werent underdog they were just dog
im gonna flip my shit if vancouver goes back to korean after ruining Runaway 
ive already wrote them off and theres 19 teams in the leauge and some canadian org
did they release the coach
i think its just the team right now
They wont
does anyone have a full team? besides what shanghai?
the god damn free agent market is flooding and its taking whole city’s with it
but you have to finish the game 
tru
I'm back. 🛡️ 🔨
Lift your spirits as Draugr Reinhardt in Overwatch Halloween Terror. Live Oct 12. https://t.co/U56ZeOnlUC
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ok its mid tier skin
but the axe is what im buying
actually the shield is pretty nice
nah that skin is kinda fucking nice
owl tokens or credits
credits
how many
I mean I buy the skin that I want and I use it I don't like buy every skin
just my favourite or ones that I like
Dalton noooooo 
halloween probably has the highest quality skins imo
they're always nice thats true
Grike and holding an eternal grudge against Halo pepelaugh
The difference is Halo whiffed once, hybrid whiffed every single map he played 
and he only whiffed because titans pussied out
When is apply to london happening????
2032
u cant be the biggest loser if u dont even make the playoffs
Ok wait
idea
Jjonak to seoul
Seoul should just collect godly old korean talent
Bring back Tobi
Add Fissure
everyone who was good s1 and still cracked now
If they did that they would have kept sbb 😭
fissure,fury,jjonak,tobi,profit,carpe
YEP
THAT LINE
Sbb also is retiring
so we dont know if they dropped him
or he chose to leave
wait shit
i dont want fury to leave WJ
Nooooo
Also who do yall think spark are getting
Haiyoqin?
Maybe either 1987 or mmonk?
Nisha?
they def going to promote lige
I doubt Chengdu would get rid of mmonk after the year he had
Have the Outlaws actually done anything yet this off-season
Happy
they did??
Announced he's fa
When?
On his twitter
My 2021 OWL contract has ended. It did not include option for +1 so I am now a FA LFT for 2022 and beyond. Thank you to @Outlaws and our great fans for cheering and supporting me !
Please reach me at Happy#7497 or my agent at dave@seg.gg
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Atlanta are first
They got all their contracts set out it seems
Nero
Bc Pelican is leaving
Especially
I cant tell if ur memeing or nah
Pelican wanna go home 😭
Multiple sources have also stated that the Atlanta Reign are expected to be trading Rookie of the year, DPS player Se-Hyun “Pelican” Oh this off season.
The Atlanta Reign are switching to a western roster
1579
They have offically thrown away 2 fdps superstars
They're rumored to be going full western because pelican wanted out
Essenzhou u are far behind

Erster wasn't even their fault
There is 0 way halo is right this time
When a player makes a heartfelt request you do everything in your power to accommodate it.
1000
He literally just doesn't like the game anymore
Yes it was
He literally got signed again after
then retired
why would he even get signed and agree to join the dragons
if he didnt like the game
He was also bad in Shanghai scrims 🥵
Erster wasn't meshing with the team at all according to the players and was too much of a solo player then went to Shanghai where he wasn't putting in the effort because he was burnt out then he retired
He had friends on Shanghai so maybe he thought there was a chance
It's literally shanghai
But Shanghai realized
Oh this guy has no passion for the game anymore
Moon straight up said he was shit in scrims

Well yk what
The team didnt do enough for his mental
he had the talent
But they failed him as a team
as a coaching staff
as an org
💀
Ok
joobi
If there was proper mental support and coaching, he wouldnt have burnt out or been too individual as a player
No point in crying over split milk
haksal ivy>pelican erster
Ratio
You could say that about literally every player though
Yeah
With proper resources (insert player) could be great
not fair we cant add reactions
So all players that retired cause they where burnt out
Why can’t you add reactions
Not their fault a player doesn't like the game anymore lol
Where failed by their orgs
Not true
probably i can add reactions in other channels
Did Molly resign I don't remember
which players?
A lot of times orgs can't do anything
I think with erster they prob could
Diem for example
cause he played randomly
@tropic herald i spelled no
But the org had negative coaching last year
Also we know Shanghai probably has excellent support structure
U can't save just no passion
at that point he was prob over the point of no return
Shanghai un boomed Fate
Edison being let go any time now 😭
Fate wasnt boomed...
U can't force a player to like the game
I feel bad for Edison
he was a top 5 MT last year
My B tier dps Edison 
It is what it is sometimes
… I’m just quoting moon interviews
He was literally one of the best main tanks in the world going into s4
I am sorry but I’m literally quoting what moon said about fate
It was a Reddit thread at somepoint
Alright .500 winrate team build
Oge Gaebullssi Edison Happy Jerry Slime Lastro 😏
On rcow
Below 50
500
Tbh
If it didn’t have OGE slime or Lastro it’s be fine
That team could either be 100% winrate or 0%
not 50 tho
its either end of the spectrum
Replace oge with dreamer or sado and replace slime with faith 😈
oh yeah thats 50%
Ok but then it’d actually be a decent team
Wherever he wants
Who else besides lastro, there's like idk I can't think of super mid flex supports rn
Myunbong I guess
myungbong
Crimzo was def above mid
oge is too low imo, probably someone like daan
He lowekey carried
coldest?
Aztac?
crimzo
Maybe but I don't know if we got to see enough of him since he played like random times with meme coaching
Like he didn't look inspiring but he also played at the most random times
Ttuba best Ms tho
Jjonak 
Also reacts are back
Factual tho nobody wants to acknowledge it 😏
Been saying it for weeks 😈
Jjonakkkk
reacts are back letsgo
ratio
denied
accepted
levy king
levy simp
levy chad
POST?
he is a off tank right
compare to an owl player
Coluge?
michelle gargoyle or hotba level
I actually have no idea
super and sleepy upload on the same day
Creative
Unless his contract is still being negotiated or he’s planning a retirement
I doubt Seoul keep him, especially after Arnold said they were going to have an “aggressive rebuild” for next season
keep profits and gesture only seems to be the plan
This is on the assumption that aggressive rebuild means more than a couple starters and married man being booted
Honestly Gesture has consistency problems and even at his peaks he doesn’t seem to contest with the top level main tanks anymore
Maybe Seoul go for MuZe
so basically what you're telling me is that Uprising Academy will win next month
They just played the last contenders season
btw does anyone know of like a list of all free agents
Someone here said they were gonna make a spreadsheet for it
Friday 
I'll make my own list ig
Have fun
gonna spend half my day looking through Twitter smh
Sounds like a valuable use of your time
next to each player it should say if their fa or not
already working on my better one
new and improved
do we know what's going on with Edison?
he plays overwatch
:/
everyones dropping everyone like the league is folding
valiant keeping their players
aw man mod deleted the free ow2 cheat code
I believe Shanghai could use a mediocre tracer otp on top of their two top tier tracer players
Totally uncool
do you just get insta banned if you do those steam nitro and ow2 stuff
wym?
yk how there are people who type get nitro for 3 months for free with steam
Probably cause they disappear in all channels which is a symptom of being banned
yea
so what I am getting from this is that I should only spam about non scams
we gotta trick Luigi into sending one
I don't even think we would need to trick him
How would you do it then
just ask him nicely
That doesn’t work against Luigi
blast, foiled again
Me and Luigi are besties I’m sure I could get him to send a scam link if I ask nicely
Good idea, we blackmail
send him one of those emails "forward this or avalla will rehire benbest and nico"
No make it onigod
He’d also want benbest back prolly
He doesn’t base players on skill that’s why he is a paris fan
well to be fair anybody who isn't a shanghai or dallas fan is basically not basing their likes on skill
Glads are ok
Some shock fans who forgot to go to Dallas probably are
yeah, sure, they were so close to dallas and shanghai
right there
practically the same level
Has apac other than dragons do anything this year
Yea and Friday has been to hawaii as well
The difference is Leave is actually a good player
chengdu.
He’s decent
Lost to shock omegalul
How good was leave last year
Mvp worthy apparently
It's still sad paris wants to keep daan and never come back to benbest
I meant s3
Didn’t watch much apac last year but he was decent I think
But chengdu was kinda sucky overall back then so
he did 40% of chengdus work
jinmu did like 30%
now that i think of it leave and jinmu were like 90% of the team
At this point if Proper and Pelican are on Shock....
Just give them the trophy next year
No 
i remember i gave shock the 3peat this year
and then they bowed out to sparkle
no my bad
a pelican
and some dude from europe with a cold face named kai
a gator a hawk a eye and the master
wouldve been worst if they actually did bow out to dallas
still amazes me how well reign did
I was defending gator for a while but he really is somewhat weak
not sure how they managed the finals
he might be better being the solo tank since itll allow him to be full aggressive
f
According to halo
wait what
i was not informed of this
my internet is too slow to load twitter 
guess it does make sense
but nero got released and they planned on trading him and not straight up releasing him
so pelican aint 100% gonna go to shock
but im hopeful
Iirc Benbest was worse than daan in trials
Not that daan is any good
in contenders trials??
TRUEING
I would take benbest over daan 9/10
I'd take Daan
Brother
Daan is funny
Trials are good
ball I would maybe take daan since I haven't seen benbest's ball
If trials are good
why did paris end up with a eu tank who can only play ball competently
Bc ball OP
pine performed best at trials after xzi 
Also let me rephrase
Daans Rein is okay
Good trials are good
He would never play
leav to dragon :)
Leave overrated
And why they kept him
Hunters outdated
Idk why they kept him but I do know he was better than Benbest in their testing and it ended up working out ok I guess
True
true
fuck oneegod
Oni is trying out on Paris again
sign cockwave
Onigod is good but Onigod can only get you so far if you're trying to get to the top
Memeicus has been blocked
Daan haters :/
But if you keep Daan you aren't trying to get to the top 💀
you're not trying to get to the top if your tank is daan
They have a lot of talent for EU players
what are the good western hitscans that arent in valorant
Sign cloudy and only play rein
Hydron
No no no
Cloudys style in owl sucks 
TRUEING
Atlanta got a grand finals appearance
Michael is a cloudy hater btw
It only works in ladder and contenders kind of 😡
Glads iirc omega hard gapped OG titans in the beginning of s2
Cloudy shit talked my ex in a master's lobby 😡😈 he's a meanie head
with cloudy rein
most people on ladder deserve to be shit talked ngl
those mfs be wild
It was on stream so we get to send him the clip for lols
Reminds me of my favorite clip
Oge when he comes to Vancouver 
https://clips.twitch.tv/ScrumptiousThankfulTapirKreygasm back in my glory days when I gapped gator while on hog
Toronto when they sign frd 💀
If any team signs FRD I will eat my face
Hey frd is better than nothing 😡
I'd take nothing some days tbh
Died to Moira orb
FRD would be a funny content creator
Gonna start calling things in OW gameplay their CR counterpoints
Yes
Sign FRD, Bench him= Ez FRDWNR Friday luck
Overhealing is leaking elixir lolll
Sign Friday and FRD to get fried Weiner Fridays 😈
Ez content
If Friday gets signed I will eat my face
What if oge gets signed
you guys are really interested in eating your face
Man, teams are just letting go a lot of great players, you could do a playoff contender just the leftovers of some teams
I won't eat my face oge prob can be ok
If OGE gets signed I will commit nefarious crimes
@stuck radish I think you should watch super play dva so you can hit gm
I don't get why teams still sign him
OGE Titans 🐐
Hit top 500
console so i am t500
did you watch super's dva in the ow2 showmatches?
Demeched in 10 seconds
so baad
Also why so many teams want to go western team? You could build a better Korean roster with all those free agents
no wonder they keep choi
marketability
at the end of the day they want money
i gotta play dpsdva in ow2
and with ow2 mean more fanbase
more potential view
but also yes
visas and travel
I mean, but if you're going to end up like Vancouver idk if it's worth it
there's good western talent
vancouver sign a decent roster challenge
There is, but with the amount of teams fighting for the same talent is going to be complicated
They did in 2019
I hope they're bottom 2 forever
maybe when vancouver changes their colors then they'll be good
They have good colors
Mandu to Vancouver 😈
Now Boston is a fucking problem
vancouver skins are awful wym
Vancouver be a decent org challenge (impossible)
Friday to Toronto 🙏
Aspire where to?
Any team that I don't like Friday may go to
Houston 😏
Didn't Friday retire
I could genuinely see a player like aspire in Houston they like western players
I do not believe so
I could see him in Paris tho
Atlanta looking goated
they could get reiner and hydron
Poko to Paris !
Now that would be great
Poko Benbest tankline in Paris could have been amazing but nooooo Paris had to ruin it

When do teams start sign in players?
FA can be signed now
But not only renewing contracts
I'm all good with Atlanta losing their two best players
Pelican
But we probably won't see a lot of signings till november or later this month
Iris
Oh I thought there was a window to resign
Ir1s Bap one trick lol
UV gonna make Gator ascend
apparently pelican leaving was his choice
Pelican to Shock
I'll believe UV is better than Iris when I see it 
UV is the real deal
3peat incoming
Throw the bag at em andy
Who's getting Striker tho
Chances of Striker going back with shock?
High
This xd
Benbest Poko London can still happen! Praydge 💀😈
Empathy shock fan 
Kai has been hinting to go to London or some shit

Rolled
That would be wild
What if it makes you a fusion fan 😴
London spending?
Kai trolling


London spending to get funnyastro and Kai back home
Boombox come to London ez 
A man can only dream
C9 bout to do something stupid like sign YSNZA
Washedbox wee need you
ysnza doesnt speak english
He speaks enough
every time ive heard him on broadcast is like he's trying to speak an alien language
Keywords about to do something stupid
Please don’t call Arabic alien 🤨
???
London taking him as a specialist on ping is his only shot in the league imo
every time i've heard him on broadcast (speaking english)
AKA
his english is bad
^^^
Idk, seems like it wouldn’t be out of the possibility
and hes not even good at those heroes 
He's pretty good at Pharah
wait nvm its 5 now since NA started to play it in stage 3
Pelican
And uh
Fleta
Yea
And dding
Teru did
Don't tell me otherwise
jinmu pelican fleta profit nero
NA 1st 
the only good pharah players
Na 1st lol
Teru played Pharah this season before it was cool to play Pharah
Naisu goated
I love the fact that sideshow thought Na1st was North America first lol
na1st is the definiton of mediocre
Yes
NotE Numlocked aka mediocre 😴
Remember beast monkey on Gibraltar lmao
He got diffed so hard
dont want to remember
the anamo part is a joke
Are you sure
yes, they are good friends
though it may be that anamo does actually say that
but it is in a joking manner
I never realized how friendly smurf and super were until recently
Wdym by that
I just kinda thought they were teammates but they seem to be pretty good friends as well
so smurf leaving is more sad
living together for 3 years will do that
and they were in the same apartment for two
Have you ever watched a Shock video, watched supers stream, or watched a super video
It's pretty obvious they're really good friends
Blocked
cool
plus I lived with a guy for like 5 years and I don't even remember his name
so I don't really see why living together would mean friends, but I suppose that may just be me
wonder if super will be shock's only tank in ow2 or they use choi some
well and they worked together everyday
true, that would likely mean you remember their name at least
also I assume they use choi too
Super, Choi, and Smurf all worked together for the majority of the year for like 4 years
depends on what tank is strong
if dva is meta for the whole season somehow then supers benched forever
you would probably be a dick for not remembering their name at that point I guess
how is choi's dva again
I forget honestly
unironically if he isn't trolling he's top 3
i mean its better than super's lmao
I know that much
Void > Hanbin > Choi
but I couldn't remember if he was a god dva or not
so is it choi's zarya that is meh?
Zarya's "rework" in ow2 is complete fucking dogshit
well I don't see dva meta either, matrix is great and all but she is usually good as like a secondary tank
two bubbles 
shields are still kinda good and shit
dvas rework is ass too
I could see zarya being meta if doom is really good
all they did is increase dm duration to 3 seconds and reduce her spread slightly
Hard to tell
his whole kit is cc
Doom tank doom tank
dooms getting a rework
They're still re-working half the roster
including doom
like reworks have worked out well in the past
people are way too optimistic about blizzard's abilities to balance here
ikr
Oh I am incredibly pessimistic
frankly I know I have probably said this before but 5v5 is probably just gonna kill the game
I am pretty much guaranteed to be gone
I liked being a tank goddammit
im still going to be one tricking dva in ow2 knowing she'll be dogshit
only hope I have left is that they maybe have 6v6 as like arcade or something
but they won't
they will just kill the old ways so they can have cod and make money
which, you know, makes financial sense but
kinda sad
blizzard expects people who have never played overwatch to say "oh man this game went 5v5 instead of 6v6? i want to buy this game!!!!"
well partly the reasoning is that less tanks means faster dps queues
so people are supposed to go "yay, I can no brain dps even more now lulz"
i see dps queue times improving a lot in the first few weeks/months of ow2 because there will be more people on tank due to new heroes and the "reworks"
but after that i see dps queue times becoming similar to ow1
maybe instead of 10 minutes it'll be 7
thats still horrible tho
This
it should be better because of a smaller bottleneck
is that real
Yes
how
all time?
fire is not real
no shit
this is all time?
Per 10 minutes
no I mean does this measure all of his career
in owl prob
because where is the healing stat coming from
to this day i am still wondering why tf did ow make it 5v5. some tanks if not all are not good on their own and their fundemental design is to support other players and not be in the frontlines 100% of the time like zarya dva hammond(?)
Ikr
yeah zarya seems kinda shit
also rein
i think that those tanks will suffer the most because they wont have tank partner to clear highground
queue times 
honestly its impossible to fix queue times
also i think that most people complaigning about it being deathmatch will see no change because 90% of ranks is already 1v11 dm
im not looking forward to that
that moment when you and your team just work together nicely is like the best feeling as a gold/silver player
granted its like 1 in 30 games
wait whats wrong with rein
its near impossible to clear highground as rien in ranked
and in ow2 you won't have other tank to do that
yeah
but so far nothing covered characters verticality
most of it was just removing cc and bastion
most of it so far*
actualy i think all
99% of ow players will experience deathmatch anyways
Looks like dva would be the best tank
Still can’t believe sbb is retired
I mean I can believe it
But like
It’s just so sad
It's sad
gator hawk nero hydron kai ojee ultraviolet
damn i keep losing
that roster is too beautiful
Dont remind me
Tbh still one of my favorite retirement tweets
Instead of the usual stuff he just admitted he wasn't top tier anymore
And that his journey was over
sbb 🤝 luigi

halo back to teasing
According to multiple sources, the the San Francisco Shock did not re-sign Matthew “Super” DeLisi nor Hyo-Bin “Choihyobin” Choi this off season.
Sources believe their is the high possibility that both players are planning to retire this off season
Yes, multiple sources have confirmed that Min-Ki “Violet” Park was the only player re-signed by the Shock this off season https://t.co/VffzfdyVrY

Viol2t to just play all 3 roles in OW2 at once
According to multiple sources, Florida Mayhem Head Coach Dae-Kuk “Kuki” Kim is supposedly leaving to become the new Head Coach of the New York Excelsior.
Noooooooooooooooo
What team will i root for later
a big reminder that Blizzconline is in 4 months
Il join the one that dont have dissapointing playoff runs
Wtf the entire titans team…
yo is yaki coming
yaki flora would be a pretty nutty dps line, but apparantly there is a bidding war for Yaki so who knows




