esports-discussion

[earnest leaf]

So shock seemingly want to re-build with super/choi/viol2t

[tawdry hamlet]

From ow2 Doha pov lmao
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugy0BOxZ-f1hSM0wf-F4AaABCQ

[gusty rampart]

Can the trading start already?

Or the signing

[north relic]

sparkle wouldnt let that happen

[tacit skiff]

when do signings start again?

tmrw?

[willow drum]

Damn.

Shock

[weak bolt]

Players can be signed from tomorrow onwards yeah

[mortal cipher]

yeah 9 October is when the trading / signing starts

[north relic]

ngl i really love daytime dorado

[tacit skiff]

daytime dorado was the highlight of the ow2 announcement

[north relic]

all i need is nighttime gibraltar

[tacit skiff]

Halloween Gibraltar?

[north relic]

thats a thing?

[worn falcon]

all you guys talking about nightime

[tacit skiff]

yep

[worn falcon]

but when rain time

windy time

[north relic]

where

[tacit skiff]

Numbani heavy rain

[tacit skiff]

it's literally a map

with Roadhog on a table instead of baldreich

[north relic]

there isnt an option

[mortal cipher]

oop

[north relic]

i mean gibraltar

not eichenwalde btw

[tacit skiff]

holy fuck

brain fart moment

I'm retiring

going to back to Skyblock fuck Overwatch

[mortal cipher]

lol

skyblock time

[rare magnet]

whole lotta new gun sounds tracer ana soldier

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[north relic]

wasnt numbani night shown

[tacit skiff]

yeah

it had like a large African sun

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[tacit skiff]

I want more rainy maps

idc about performance

give me water

puddles

I wanna slip in ow

[next mesa]

who is signing UV Reiner and Hydron thats im interested in are they gonna be a package

plz be a package

[mortal cipher]

ultraviolet and violet lol

[trim shadow]

ok so..a shock rebuild?

what the shit

[mortal cipher]

i doubt anyone from Falcon and Redbird dont go to owl

[north relic]

had to scroll through the video

[umbral bay]

Is Choi better than smurf? And they dropped all dps players.

[earnest leaf]

I mean they play different heroes

can't really compare them

[umbral bay]

Yeah fair

[north relic]

ngl these look really good though

[north relic]

this was the african sun

[leaden condor]

Choi is off tank

[barren quest]

Hmm a tower is gone

[sullen berry]

numbani at night

[umbral bay]

Yep.

[north relic]

which tower

[umbral bay]

Forgot about that

[leaden condor]

I was surprised they got rid of smurf over super tbf

[north relic]

rainy paris

[barren quest]

The one building with the mini inside in Numbani 3rd

[umbral bay]

Super is the face of the shock though.

[sullen berry]

that was the comparison between sunrise, sunset and nightfall

[leaden condor]

Yeah but smurf was more flexible I thought

But nowadys

Super can play rein monkey ball hog

[umbral bay]

Don’t forget horse

[north relic]

super and smurf are equally flexiable imo

[leaden condor]

Oh horse

[north relic]

they both play every mt even if it isnt the best

[leaden condor]

Choi is just there for dva/Zara

[umbral bay]

Yep

[umbral bay]

^^

[north relic]

sigma

[leaden condor]

Which is sad

[umbral bay]

Not really

[leaden condor]

Since I don’t think we will see much dva and Zarya solo tank

[umbral bay]

All theee are broken

[umbral bay]

You’d be surprised on dva.

[leaden condor]

Cause they were saying zarya was trash on OW2

[north relic]

guys i cant wait for the fortnite storm to be in ow2

[umbral bay]

At least I think

[leaden condor]

Dva might be possible

But like zar nah

Wait so shock have two tanks and 1 support

Damm they full rebuild

[earnest leaf]

I could see them getting striker back

[north relic]

i doubt striker joins back

[hot onyx]

I don’t see off tank getting much use unless sigma gets a big rework into becoming more like a main tank

[umbral bay]

Zarqa is best at donating her resources to a main tank. Orisa and sig are both best for using theirs for dps or zen or something.

That’s why she won’t exist

[earnest leaf]

wide open roster spot and crusty is there

[north relic]

yea zarya hog and dva seem to be staying the same

[earnest leaf]

Why not join?

[tropic herald]

Nero got an offer 👀

[umbral bay]

Or be played

Who?

[earnest leaf]

Wonder if it's florida

[tropic herald]

Idk

[leaden condor]

LAG?

[earnest leaf]

if they are going full NA

[worn falcon]

vancouver

[hot onyx]

Rip off tank careers then

[north relic]

idk i dont see a reason to leave the league and then join the same team again unless you are ans with mental health issues

[tropic herald]

J think so

He’s a fdps and that fits what AT is missing

[umbral bay]

Dva will be viable

[leaden condor]

I thought shock would keep smurf over super then go full Korean

[leaden condor]

It’s the Titans year next year

[willow drum]

Well

Super is the head

of Shock

[north relic]

nvm what just happened

[earnest leaf]

super is a part owner of NRG

[leaden condor]

Yeah I think that’s only reason they kept super over smurf

[hot onyx]

Unless she gets a hyper buff in damage and matrix duration i don’t see it personally

[umbral bay]

And the league to an extent

[willow drum]

You remove super from shock u basically lose

like

90% of ur popularity

[leaden condor]

But like then shock gonna go mixed roster?

[willow drum]

assume so

[earnest leaf]

Probably

[leaden condor]

Wonder who they pick up

[earnest leaf]

they've done it each season already

[umbral bay]

I mean in dive she’ll very usable. And she can work with other brawl characters with dm

[leaden condor]

Since they need everything

[next mesa]

I hope Reiner UV and Hydron go on the same team

gotta see what AT is capable of

🙏

[earnest leaf]

Now hear me out

Shock sign

Yaki

Striker

Proper

and

Funnyastro

[leaden condor]

Main support ?

Eww Astro

Don’t rate him

[umbral bay]

Violet

[willow drum]

Nah I can see funnyastro

tbh

[sullen berry]

out of 20 teams, one of them is going to give a one trick a shot

[leaden condor]

Slime is free agent use him

[willow drum]

Slime?

[north relic]

Guys hear me out

[tropic herald]

Astro to Reign

[willow drum]

isn't he washed

[north relic]

Shock sign chipsa

[hot onyx]

I just don’t see dva being used over monke or ball for dive and over rein for brawl tbh

[earnest leaf]

slime is too mid for shock

[umbral bay]

Where’s who are you?

[willow drum]

yeah

[tropic herald]

Chiyo to Shock

[leaden condor]

He use to be S teir main support sad

[tropic herald]

Shanghai

[leaden condor]

Anybody know a website with all the current free agents?

[hot onyx]

You watch Fusion VODs with a blindfold or sum?

[north relic]

You don’t?

[leaden condor]

Usally yeah

[tropic herald]

Jon Spector will drop a full list soon

Tomorrow maybe

[umbral bay]

I don’t think Winston or ball will give enough support to the main part of the team.

[willow drum]

hm

nero and ans gone

[leaden condor]

I just wanna see my titans do good again…

[earnest leaf]

I think shock should still try to keep ans

[hot onyx]

Bold

[leaden condor]

Nah it’s time to say bye I think

Pick up yaki instead

[willow drum]

shock's whole dps line is gone

damn.

[umbral bay]

I think dropping practically everyone is bold from the shock especially.

They are a good team

[north relic]

I feel like anyone in a shock jersey looks cursed other than shock players

[leaden condor]

Yeah considering shock still did really well

[leaden condor]

True

[hot onyx]

Jesus how greedy do you have to get?

[leaden condor]

When people first move to shock it looks cursed

[willow drum]

Hmm idk

Hear me out

they traded

Twilight and Smurf

[leaden condor]

They free agents can’t trade Em lol

[willow drum]

I thought smurf still had his ocntract

[leaden condor]

Nope

[earnest leaf]

it expired

[leaden condor]

I don’t think Atleast

[tacit skiff]

what team would trade for Smurf lmao

[umbral bay]

I think Boston might be good if they take literally every free agent maybe

[leaden condor]

Glads

[umbral bay]

50-50

[earnest leaf]

All the players who were dropped today had their contracts expire

[tacit skiff]

Boston has a plan

[leaden condor]

Smurf Moth link up again

[tacit skiff]

for who?

[earnest leaf]

Also many teams would take smurf

[hot onyx]

Fumsiom

[leaden condor]

Moth back to shock for smurf

[umbral bay]

Name checks out

[tacit skiff]

moth lmao

mercy sucks in ow2

[leaden condor]

He can play other shit lol

[willow drum]

could always change

[earnest leaf]

imo smurf could bench any MT in the league

and be a perma starter

[leaden condor]

Idk about any

[umbral bay]

Lucio?

[willow drum]

bad as well

[earnest leaf]

Maybe not fate

[willow drum]

main support is ass in ow 2

[worn falcon]

Smurf benchs Hadi

ez

[leaden condor]

Super fearless Fate better

[earnest leaf]

but even then It would depend on meta

[umbral bay]

You sure?

[hot onyx]

Smurf > Pooper

[earnest leaf]

Unless winston is played 24/7 I would take smurf over fearless

[willow drum]

Super said the best comps were double flex support comps

[hot onyx]

Crusty on the crackpiper

[tacit skiff]

I worded this as trade
there's like no other team in the top half of the league that would get rid of their mt for smurf
glads and fusion are the only exceptions because they don't have a mt lmao

[earnest leaf]

And even then smurf has a comparable winston

[worn falcon]

r0ar > Smurf

[leaden condor]

Fearless rein got much better this year

[umbral bay]

Did he really?

[next mesa]

Rein

[umbral bay]

I missed that

[earnest leaf]

fearless rein is a lil inconsistent

[willow drum]

Yeha, gave impressions that Ana Zen/Bap Zen etc etc should be meta

[worn falcon]

but then you have fearless ball

[tacit skiff]

Fearless is the best mt, hands down, but I don't think his Reinhardt is all that amazing

[willow drum]

and he said mercy healed for ass

[tropic herald]

I’d start muze over smurf

[willow drum]

.

[earnest leaf]

but why

[leaden condor]

Then your dumb sorry haha

[umbral bay]

So why tf did nyxl drop jjonak

[tacit skiff]

muze lmao

[earnest leaf]

muze is a worse smurf

[worn falcon]

[tacit skiff]

why would they keep him

[leaden condor]

Muze was hype at the start

[tropic herald]

Bc muze is cool

[willow drum]

Jjonak's contract ran out

[leaden condor]

But died

[willow drum]

he was a free agent this year

[earnest leaf]

maybe muze has a slightly better ball at best

[willow drum]

and i guess some team offered him a fat bag

[tacit skiff]

jjonak is seeking new opportunities in apac

[umbral bay]

It did?

[tacit skiff]

a lot of teams need a new flex support

[willow drum]

Yeah

[tacit skiff]

and there's a lot of flex support in fa

[tropic herald]

The big 3 FAs in fs gotta be Twilight GNJ and UV

[tacit skiff]

cough kariv to Boston cough

[tropic herald]

So Boston stays mediocre?

[tacit skiff]

hopefully

you're acting like being mediocre isn't a step up for Boston at this point

[worn falcon]

Jjangu to Boston

[tropic herald]

Boston was already mediocre this season

[tacit skiff]

isn't Jjangu on contract still?

[tropic herald]

No

[leaden condor]

Jjangu underaates

[willow drum]

Imagine UV to Shock

then u get Ultraviolet

and Viol2t

[tacit skiff]

I'd call Philli a mediocre team and I wouldn't put Boston on the same level as them

[willow drum]

Lmao it'd be so confusing

[earnest leaf]

UV would just be perma benched unless it's a double FS meta

[tacit skiff]

when you literally make it into playins because OGE threw the season on Florida, that's a bad sign

[worn falcon]

i wonder how much money or stubborn is carpe to stay in philly

[tropic herald]

I feel like UV is really good but he better not go to Shock

[worn falcon]

Imagine if he gets traded to shock instead ans

[tacit skiff]

Aztec

I forgot he existed

Give Stellar a chance in the league again please UA 🙏

Stellar should've gone to the Uprising over im37

also contenders na is great

love watching Redbird and UA

never disappoints

[umbral bay]

Birdring retired :(

[tacit skiff]

like yesterday

old news

[leaden condor]

Sadest stuff

[umbral bay]

Ik

[worn falcon]

Coachplayer Rascal for ow2

pog

[umbral bay]

Are kevster and space still glads?

[tacit skiff]

yes

[umbral bay]

Shu?

[tacit skiff]

they're both on contract still

yes I think

[umbral bay]

Ok

[tacit skiff]

considering this is the best the glads have looked ever, I didn't expect many changes

[umbral bay]

Yep

[tacit skiff]

Muze is understandable, he's the weakest link

much better choices

[worn falcon]

shock grabbing shu

[umbral bay]

Is ball viable in owl rn?

[worn falcon]

Yes

[tacit skiff]

considering ow2? who knows

[umbral bay]

Yeah

[worn falcon]

if you mean rn yes

[tacit skiff]

depends on how they change ball

[worn falcon]

if you mean ow2 we dont know

[tiny pollen]

wait shock just got snapped wtf

[worn falcon]

because some heros get reworked, some others stay the same, some others tweak numbers.

for sure sombra gonna be tweaked

[tiny pollen]

end of an era

[umbral bay]

I’m not sure. They still have super and violet

[mortal cipher]

i mean it ended v early at the start

and they lost half their team during their off season before season 4

[tacit skiff]

it all ended against London

tbh

[mortal cipher]

wdym

oh right

[willow drum]

idk man they were still #4

[tacit skiff]

the 3-2 match against London this season

[willow drum]

this year

[mortal cipher]

where london about won against shock

[willow drum]

That's better than a LOT of teams

[mortal cipher]

that wouldve been amazing if london won

[tacit skiff]

Literally came down to last control map

[mortal cipher]

the comments on that match is great

it was an inch that they won

they barely won

[tacit skiff]

it's a shame, I wanted to see more of current Phillie roster vs current Shock roster

that playoff match was amazing

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[tacit skiff]

felt like 2019 again

[mortal cipher]

even shock v philly was uhh

[tacit skiff]

honestly surprised Super was the one standing at the end of the day

thought he'd retire by now

[willow drum]

Listen

Super

is fucking goated

[mortal cipher]

yeah super is the one to stay until he nei longer can

[willow drum]

like how he's not burned out

by now

[earnest leaf]

I think people forget how competitive he is

[willow drum]

is insane

[mortal cipher]

i think hed go to another team before retiring

[tacit skiff]

so was Birdring, and look how he ended up

[willow drum]

I mean for the love of the game

[mortal cipher]

he deided to retire he wasnt bad

[willow drum]

Like he has a lotta love for OW

[tacit skiff]

he wasn't bad at all, neither is Super

[willow drum]

That shit is obvious

[mortal cipher]

some players decided to retire playing

[willow drum]

who knows

[tacit skiff]

I'm just saying, I'm really surprised he didn't retire, even more surprised he is still on the Shock

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/necros_ow/status/1446920299363151875?s=20

Necros (@necros_ow)

LFT OWL

• I can ghost dash
• I'm really fast
• nanoblade op in OW2

Likes

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Twitter · Oct 9, 2021, 7:27 PM

[mortal cipher]

if he stays

[tacit skiff]

unless the Shock are paying the big bucks to keep him for some reason

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[tacit skiff]

maybe Crusty sees something in Super for ow2

[earnest leaf]

I doubt he's paid as much as some other players

[final musk]

Ta1yo released.

Uff.

[mortal cipher]

i mean they only have two tanks and a support

[earnest leaf]

Since he makes fat stacks off his stream

[worn falcon]

i can see ta1yo for coach

or motivator

[tacit skiff]

just make Super a cc at this point, buy another superstar team

[final musk]

Or mascot

[worn falcon]

When seoul gonna drop SBB and send him to shock?

[mortal cipher]

who knows

[tacit skiff]

sbb 😭

[willow drum]

Super's a superstar though.

[final musk]

Uff SBB on Shock is dangerous shit

CCP dangerous

[willow drum]

bruh the day SBB goes to Shock

[tacit skiff]

when was the last time Paris or Horizon were played in owl

[mortal cipher]

here comes the signing and trading tho get ready

[willow drum]

is the day that the CN teams mald

[willow drum]

yeah

[tacit skiff]

so hyped for signings

[willow drum]

tmr we get to see who jjonak and nero go 2

[mortal cipher]

its going to be fun

[tacit skiff]

more hyped for the lower tier teams than high tier tho

[mortal cipher]

epecially from this years contenders

[earnest leaf]

Nero to florida is my guess

maybe philly

[tacit skiff]

Ans to NYXL

[final musk]

Nero to ATL I bet. To ride bench.

[worn falcon]

Dalton to london

[trail perch]

Nero not going to get signed prob going to retire

[earnest leaf]

he literally said he got an offer

[tiny pollen]

ans to dallas

[worn falcon]

he got a offer

[mortal cipher]

he said he was thinking about it

[tiny pollen]

ans would fuck in dallas

[mortal cipher]

ans to dallas is a scary thought

[trail perch]

Yeah but he’s prob going to retire tbh

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/ow_nero/status/1446909078534443010

nero (@ow_nero)

i was debating retiring but i got an opportunity i didn’t wanna pass up. you guys will see soon

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Twitter · Oct 9, 2021, 6:43 PM

[tacit skiff]

he would but like

[trail perch]

Oh well ig he’s playing

[mortal cipher]

yeah

florida seems likely

[tacit skiff]

I bet Ans would rather play in apac

[trail perch]

Is he going back to charge?

[mortal cipher]

ans to nyxl then

[trail perch]

ans to charge

[tacit skiff]

Nero foreshadowing the Valiant DPS announcement

[balmy wolf]

i just realized

[trail perch]

Make it happen

[leaden condor]

Maybe

[mortal cipher]

i mean nyxl have only flora rn so

[balmy wolf]

there's no fucking way on god's green earth they're keeping Ana the way she is for OW2 right?

no fucking way

[trail perch]

They might

[tacit skiff]

Ans goes to NYXL, like 99%

[balmy wolf]

wtf

trash game

[trail perch]

They never like to need her

[tiny pollen]

ans is exactly what dallas needs

[balmy wolf]

lmfao

[trail perch]

Nerf

[tiny pollen]

a dedicated hitscN

[trail perch]

She’s been busted since 2016

[leaden condor]

100%

[trail perch]

When she was released

Actually wait

She was shit on release

Busted since late 2016

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[tiny pollen]

i pray for that 🙏

[trail perch]

When they buffed her

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/eyleahcbye/status/1446719195643670528

hayley 希文 (@eyleahcbye)

esca

• completed his mandatory military service in april 2021 working at a school

• streams pubg (sometimes OW) on afreeca and participates in streamer tourneys often

• held OW tournament with ex pros (miro, bumper, ryujehong etc) that i covered here:
  https://t.co/nVomcOnRmA

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Twitter · Oct 9, 2021, 6:08 AM

ESCA

sad

[tacit skiff]

the only event in which Ans doesn't go to NYXL is if he retires or if NYXL get xzi instead
in that case, I could Ans going to Dallas or smth

[worn falcon]

And mickie living the life https://twitter.com/eyleahcbye/status/1446729069727387658

hayley 希文 (@eyleahcbye)

@MickiePP

• Streams Valorant, PUBG Mobile, Pokemon Unite and other games regularly on Youtube and Twitch (MickiePP)

• Currently coaches Thailand's "Bacon Time" PUBG Mobile team

• Also look at how handsome and fit he is ...

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Twitter · Oct 9, 2021, 6:47 AM

[mortal cipher]

oof

[tacit skiff]

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/eyleahcbye/status/1446835247035781123

hayley 希文 (@eyleahcbye)

Meko

• Currently serving in the military, I assume he entered mid this year 2021, will not show photos as I can't get permission to but he looks healthy!

• Also seems to have enjoyed playing Valorant before he left, he reached Radiant rank

Likes

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Twitter · Oct 9, 2021, 1:49 PM

mek0

[mortal cipher]

sad

i feel military is basically a retirement

depending how long which is around 2-4

[chilly jolt]

i don't

i don't even know what to say

[mortal cipher]

thats a riperoni

[forest raven]

My team has been snapped

[trim shadow]

wait shock has no dps

[forest raven]

[trim shadow]

[mortal cipher]

which is shock???

[forest raven]

Yes

[mortal cipher]

oof

[worn falcon]

shock gets im37

[mortal cipher]

this offseason is going to be brutal

[forest raven]

At least supers still there

[mortal cipher]

aND violet and choi

[tiny pollen]

sunmoning astro to shock

[trim shadow]

but no dps

[mortal cipher]

ig since this is the end of ow1 makes sense we see mega changes

its an end of an era in a way

[trim shadow]

this is beyond mega changes

[mortal cipher]

this is atomic

[trim shadow]

this has entered fantasy land

god dam isekai

[mortal cipher]

how so

huh

[earnest leaf]

Now this imo is the fun part about the off season

[mortal cipher]

fr

[earnest leaf]

now that most teams have dropped players

get to guess who goes where

[mortal cipher]

we see new team look

[worn falcon]

except dragons

smh

or spark

[mortal cipher]

and also contender pick ups

[worn falcon]

or valiant

[mortal cipher]

spark dropped players

and dragons dropped develep and two coaches

[hot onyx]

Please no

[mortal cipher]

but if it isnt broke dont fix it

[mortal cipher]

why not

[hot onyx]

I like Astro where he is

[mortal cipher]

ah i see

but if he did leave Philly

[worn falcon]

valiant hasnt update or upload anything since...

damn son

[mortal cipher]

welp

so they continuing theyre joke roster huh

remeber when they were at least respectable

[stuck radish]

are there any valiant fans in existence

[mortal cipher]

probably

the old Valiant maybe

or waiting when they win

[sullen berry]

they're continuing nothing, the experiment failed

[mortal cipher]

i mean they havent said if theyre parting with anyone yet so...

[north relic]

tay zonday

[tiny pollen]

next season they won't have players

[sullen berry]

OWL scriptwriter 2022

[mortal cipher]

ow2 champions lav lol

[sullen berry]

if Halo didn't leak, then it can be true

[mortal cipher]

im joking i swear

[north relic]

wtf the bot lucio is insane

[mortal cipher]

dang

[mortal cipher]

hmm

[digital cloud]

I cannot fucking believe how much the shock dropped

[earnest leaf]

The more you look at it the more it makes sense

[digital cloud]

Ans and smurf? No sense there

[earnest leaf]

Ta1yo never played, 3 tanks is too many so smurf going

twilight was benched half the time, fdgod never fit in until it was too late

nero got a new offer

Ans they should keep imo

[tiny pollen]

^

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/yung_ksp/status/1446943550055276551?s=21

kai (@yung_ksp)

@RedditLuciooo @FuckItsuper I haven’t LOL

Twitter · Oct 9, 2021, 8:59 PM

https://twitter.com/sparkr_ow/status/1446941984904683523?s=21

SparkR (@SparkR_OW)

@yung_ksp 👀🤩

Twitter · Oct 9, 2021, 8:53 PM

[balmy wolf]

huh

nah

no way

imma uninstall

[noble nexus]

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[mortal cipher]

wot

[haughty crag]

shock really said 'hey, you know all the players you like? fuck you.' and dropped them all

im gonna spend the day crying now

time to become a dallas fan

[mortal cipher]

lol

[next mesa]

Wait I thought they re signed kai

He's going to spitfire confirmed

[mortal cipher]

if they dont resign which i dont know why they wouldnt

his bio still has atl

so well see

[pearl pewter]

its so sad honestly

shock was my favourite team . i feel like they are gonan fall off now

[zealous venture]

3/5 is still pretty dang good to me

technically 2 out of 5

but a backup is good

anyways

only an hour until saturday october 10th globally

technically some apac teams COULD sign FA's

[mortal cipher]

tru

[pearl pewter]

its just sad that they dumped all the fan favouites tho

its sad

[mortal cipher]

tru

[zealous venture]

i mean

realistically, what would they have done?

you cant really have 3 tanks in ow2

and the dps were either upcoming FAs or werent really worth keeping long term

or they just never played

[mortal cipher]

tru

[zealous venture]

twilight is an FA and fdgod was shit at any support not named lucio

[mortal cipher]

i mean eventually even the old roster was going to leave eventually

[zealous venture]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/pzo1co/owl_2021_offseason_tracker/

[mortal cipher]

with the end of the first legacy of OWL seems kinda right

[zealous venture]

i mean a lot of stuff is going to change

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[zealous venture]

so its only realistic that the teams will too

aka dallas and shanghai might have worse seasons

same thign with atlanta and chengdu

[mortal cipher]

i think dallas or maybe just shanghai might be the only ones to not suffer

[zealous venture]

i mean

you never know lol

[mortal cipher]

i mean theyre all staying so i think theyll be fine

[worn falcon]

ta1yo played at the start lol

[mortal cipher]

when

[zealous venture]

yeah sure but barely playing is about as much as not playing at all

it doesnt matter he wouldnt have played anyway

[worn falcon]

he played 1 map and got booooomed

[mortal cipher]

who were they playing

[zealous venture]

he felt more like a streamer to me

[worn falcon]

outlaws

april 18

it was when he wrote this https://twitter.com/ta1yo_tv/status/1383900604523708427

ta1yo (@ta1yo_tv)

im so fucking bad worst player ever

Likes

1974

Twitter · Apr 18, 2021, 9:49 PM

[mortal cipher]

i figured

[tacit skiff]

why is Kai baiting people on Twitter in believing he's going to the Spitfire

[mortal cipher]

he may but i doubt it

we do a little trolling

[willow tartan]

he's a funny man

[mortal cipher]

he is a brit after all

[worn falcon]

kai strikes me as the guy who makes awkward jokes for some reason

[mortal cipher]

who doesnt like awkward jokes

[plush grail]

Will shock dropping smurf come back to bit them in the ass

Probably

[mortal cipher]

most likely

[north relic]

yes

[noble nexus]

definitely

[north relic]

most likely

[unborn owl]

ayo what happened to sfshock

[weak bolt]

Wonder if Fuel grab ANS…

[north relic]

here it is

[mortal cipher]

ouvch

[valid rain]

why are so many players and coaches leaving the teams?

[mortal cipher]

new game

[zealous venture]

nah

nah nah man

[mortal cipher]

he could tho

[north relic]

Contracts expiring

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[north relic]

https://twitter.com/necros_ow/status/1446920299363151875?s=20

Necros (@necros_ow)

LFT OWL

• I can ghost dash
• I'm really fast
• nanoblade op in OW2

Likes

670

Twitter · Oct 9, 2021, 7:27 PM

[mortal cipher]

yeah

wot team was necros on

i forgot

[hot onyx]

Aww Yeah iirc

[mortal cipher]

ok

is that a na team

[north relic]

https://twitter.com/eyleahcbye/status/1446719153583181826?s=20

hayley 希文 (@eyleahcbye)

thread 🪡

ex / retired overwatch league players and what they have been doing

Retweets

190

Likes

1750

Twitter · Oct 9, 2021, 6:08 AM

Very cool thread

[hot onyx]

EU

[mortal cipher]

right

[gusty rampart]

Fuel should snatch Gawngboong

[mortal cipher]

fr

hes a good hs

[gusty rampart]

Literally would be big brain

[mortal cipher]

he did win the widow 1v1

[gusty rampart]

He beat LIP by like 3 points

[mortal cipher]

yeah

barely

that was a close one and then diffed pine

[tacit skiff]

never forget that the Shock didn't give Nero, Glister or FDGod their own individual goodbye messages but gave Ta1yo one

[mortal cipher]

wait wot

[noble nexus]

because ta1yo has been on the team for the longest probably

still should've given the rest their farewells but it is what it is

[tacit skiff]

ta1yo played more ow2 than ow this year kekw

[mortal cipher]

ig they wanted to do the long time players their goodbyes first

[tacit skiff]

they said goodbye to Nero, Glister and FDGod first 😭

[mortal cipher]

nvm then

maybe they wanted an individual ones to the ogs

idbk

[next mesa]

Test

[mortal cipher]

wot

[next mesa]

My wifi

It's fine now

[mortal cipher]

ah

wifi things

[worthy void]

omg

7 players leave shock

..

[mortal cipher]

yep

all shock have now is...

[worthy void]

super

choi

[mortal cipher]

Super violet and Choi

[worthy void]

actual pain

[mortal cipher]

it was going to happen now or later

and they were all saying they were giving the opputunity to look elsewhere

[worthy void]

smurf ans and twilight leaving hurtssss

[mortal cipher]

i feel smurf hurts the most

[tacit skiff]

Seoul just released a coach

Gesture is next

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[noble nexus]

smurf was benched anyways

so I mean

[mortal cipher]

is that the first soul thing so far

[noble nexus]

did the shock really even want to keep him

[tiny pollen]

based take here but im glad they left

[mortal cipher]

smurf was their monke

[tiny pollen]

i hate seeing good players benched

[noble nexus]

super played monke over him

[mortal cipher]

super played the most

[worthy void]

wasnt twilight also benched

most of the time

[tiny pollen]

yeah

[mortal cipher]

smurf came in for characters he could at the time

[noble nexus]

twilight was benched all season apart from the last tourney before playoffs

I'm glad they all left for different reasons tbh

twilight and smurf deserve to start on much better teams

[tiny pollen]

now im praying for twilight and smurf to go to seoul

[mortal cipher]

twilight was in when fd couldnt play

[worthy void]

twilight is top tier ana

[mortal cipher]

fr

[noble nexus]

fdgod was a bad replacement for moth cuz their different playstyles so he should go to a different team

[mortal cipher]

back when titans were good

[noble nexus]

twilight probably still a top 3 ana atleast

[worthy void]

was concerned with the same thing when fd first joined

[mortal cipher]

and fd couldnt rlly adapt outside of lucio

[noble nexus]

I mean it became obvious pretty quick

their supports were too aggro

[mortal cipher]

who are the other two ana;s

[worthy void]

uh

[mortal cipher]

izaki???

[noble nexus]

alarm and izayaki or something

idk tbh

[worthy void]

alarm?

[mortal cipher]

defo izayaki

[worthy void]

iza def

[noble nexus]

shu pretty up there but I think alarm ana over shu

[mortal cipher]

yeah

shu is a good ana

[noble nexus]

but shu everything else over alarm everything else

[mortal cipher]

but hes looks more known for his bap

[worthy void]

whos the best lucio in the league rn

[mortal cipher]

especially this year

[worthy void]

[noble nexus]

ljg prolly

[mortal cipher]

leegaegon

[noble nexus]

jecse was decent too

[mortal cipher]

10 enviromental kills in one map says something

[noble nexus]

moth was permabenched but he'd have been pretty up there

[mortal cipher]

heck its called leejaegon tower

[worthy void]

rip moth

hes such a good support but shu and skewed

[mortal cipher]

moth last time i saw him was when he booped shock on lijang

[worthy void]

man

that was way back

[noble nexus]

skewed #1 brig so it makes sense he benched moth

[worthy void]

moth rejoin shock 😔

shu was so good at bap

[noble nexus]

shu's bap won games on it's own

[worthy void]

chengdu

[mortal cipher]

fr

[worthy void]

™️

[mortal cipher]

shuvana

[noble nexus]

shuvana wildin

[worthy void]

shu is meta

[mortal cipher]

we have two supports with map names now

[worthy void]

leejaegon tower

shuvana

[mortal cipher]

we like to see it

[worthy void]

ow2 looks

weird

[noble nexus]

support difference really showing

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[noble nexus]

I really didn't like ow2 when I saw it tbh

[mortal cipher]

supports are scary

[tiny pollen]

support is strongest role in gmasse

game

[worthy void]

rip brig

[mortal cipher]

that was just the first true showing

[worthy void]

literally unplayable

[tiny pollen]

they should do that to live

[noble nexus]

yeah brig being unplayable means moth gets some playtime if he stays on glads next season

[worthy void]

but

[mortal cipher]

how is brig unplayable

[worthy void]

no bash

well

[noble nexus]

no stun

[worthy void]

no cc

[mortal cipher]

wait wot

[worthy void]

in ow2

[noble nexus]

yeah brig bash doesn't stun

[mortal cipher]

oop

[worthy void]

i wonder why they did that

[mortal cipher]

same

[worthy void]

literally the only support that can consistently shut down dives

removed

[tiny pollen]

good

[noble nexus]

to reduce cc

[tiny pollen]

there is no reason to have poke not vuenrable to dives

[noble nexus]

dive won't be as hard to shut down cuz you won't have to focus on two tanks

[mortal cipher]

maybe so support can have more free reign

[worthy void]

but theres basically no cc in the game so uh

maybe dive is meta

[tiny pollen]

i think that offtanks will end up being a more defensive type and main tanks will be more offensive

[noble nexus]

you don't need to cc to shut down a single tank realistically

[tiny pollen]

so brig wont be needed to be another ot

[worthy void]

how would 1 tank play out

[noble nexus]

it's not like you're getting dove by a winston with zarya bubble or dm behind him so you won't need to cc to kill it

I think ow2 looks like a glorified deathmatch game tbh

can't say I'm a fan so far

[mortal cipher]

theyre making all their abilities able to be both

[worthy void]

idk

[tiny pollen]

ppl say it will be dm but 90% of ranks are dm

[worthy void]

it seems like the game doesnt feel as team-based because removing one tnak

[earnest leaf]

I very much so dislike the idea of 5v5

I do think it can succeed in the end

but the game still looks super early on development wise

[worthy void]

i mean i watched super's pov this morning

in ow2]

he got like insta-killed

[mortal cipher]

same

tbf hes not a dva

[tiny pollen]

i watched a bit and dva seemed unplayable

will watch more tonight

[worthy void]

jjonak joins shock

gg

[mortal cipher]

lol

i mean he could

[noble nexus]

he def won't

[mortal cipher]

but i doubt he would

[north relic]

jjonak on shock

[tiny pollen]

cursed timeline

[noble nexus]

he has like the exact same hero pool as viol2t

[north relic]

super cursed and not the player super

[worthy void]

feels weird

LOL

[mortal cipher]

he prob want to stay on a full korean

[tiny pollen]

jjonak to justice would be great

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[noble nexus]

the best scenario imo

[worthy void]

are there any FA main supports

[noble nexus]

idk who else needs him more

slime

[worthy void]

also isnt striker coming back for ow2

[noble nexus]

ya

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[noble nexus]

actually gnj > jjonak

gnj to justice plox

I beg

[worthy void]

whos

gnj

[mortal cipher]

gwabgnojim

[noble nexus]

ganjaman

[worthy void]

.

[mortal cipher]

however you spell

yeah

[worthy void]

LOL

[noble nexus]

gangnamjin

[worthy void]

GANGNAMJIN

[noble nexus]

ya

[worthy void]

gangjaman

LMAO

[noble nexus]

that space clip is fucking amazing tbh

[worthy void]

moth and striker back to shock

= gg

[noble nexus]

we can hope

[worthy void]

my bloodstream is full of hopium and copium

[noble nexus]

same except I want ans and smurf to go to the gladiators

[worn falcon]

Jjonak to shock pog

[tiny pollen]

huge pickup for shock

[worthy void]

?

[noble nexus]

whichever team gets the most shock refugees is automatically atleast upper mid lmao

[tiny pollen]

whole shock going to vancouver to be coached by flubby

[noble nexus]

nah Halo already put the vancouver hopium users down

[worthy void]

vancouver titans more like

runaway

[noble nexus]

vancouver titans more like

[mortal cipher]

so who gets the most shock players

[noble nexus]

dogshit org

[tiny pollen]

seoul

[worthy void]

shock

[mortal cipher]

smurf i see

[mortal cipher]

they just lefr

left

[noble nexus]

I think smurf to glads is most likely

ans has a few decent choices

[worthy void]

i mean

muze just left

[mortal cipher]

i see that maybe

[noble nexus]

smurf to either glads or houston

[mortal cipher]

yeah muze

[noble nexus]

muze also better get picked up

[mortal cipher]

smurf to houston would be mega upgrade

jjonak houston lol

[noble nexus]

I feel like glads would pay big bux for smurf and houston will get muze with their chump change

[mortal cipher]

yeah

if houston get any player

[noble nexus]

but muze def deserves to stay in the league next season

[mortal cipher]

it would be an improvement

[noble nexus]

well yeah they don't even have jjanggu or dreamer anymore do they?

[mortal cipher]

dont jjangu

dreamer not sure

[noble nexus]

I don't even think jjanggu was that bad

[mortal cipher]

he wasnt

[noble nexus]

idk why they felt the need to pick up dreamer aside from for his orisa

[worthy void]

piggy is off tank right

[noble nexus]

ya

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[noble nexus]

they'd better keep piggy

[mortal cipher]

i hope

[noble nexus]

also better make jake a full time coach and keep him away from the starting position

[worthy void]

jake is cool

[mortal cipher]

jake is fine

[noble nexus]

yeah I like jake

but not as a support player

[mortal cipher]

it was mostly joobi wasnt good on brig

[worthy void]

doesnt jake play

brig and junkrat

lmao

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[noble nexus]

yep

and mercy

[mortal cipher]

hes mostly a support player now

[worthy void]

remember jakerat

[mortal cipher]

lol

[noble nexus]

he should just go fulltime coach

[worthy void]

I love jake as a player and as a person

B)

[north relic]

here is a poorly edited image of shock jjonak i made

[noble nexus]

and they sign an actual main support player and not just a lucio player

[worthy void]

LMAO

[mortal cipher]

oof

[worthy void]

omw to send that to the sf shock discord

[tiny pollen]

coach jake putting player jake in

[mortal cipher]

twilight houston

[noble nexus]

^

[north relic]

ill do this next

[mortal cipher]

lol

[balmy wolf]

wait why is everybody photoshopping jjonak to shock jersey

did he get signed there?

[tiny pollen]

yea

[mortal cipher]

i dont know how

[noble nexus]

ya

[balmy wolf]

really??

[north relic]

its cursed af thats why

[tiny pollen]

weird pickup

[worthy void]

wait what

[mortal cipher]

super weird

[tiny pollen]

but ig shock likes having a top tier support on the bench

[balmy wolf]

where do you guys get the news

[north relic]

no yall are getting trolled

[noble nexus]

yeah they wanted viol2t but x2

[balmy wolf]

im on twitter but cant find any

[mortal cipher]

lmbao

[tiny pollen]

roolf troll face

[mortal cipher]

lol

[noble nexus]

so they're gonna run viol2t jjonak zen bap every match without fail

[worthy void]

dalton's back is breaking

[worthy void]

deadliest support line to exist

[mortal cipher]

fr from carrying vancouver

[noble nexus]

carrying them?

[mortal cipher]

jjonak zen do be scary

[worthy void]

dalton carried vancouver

[noble nexus]

they have one win

[mortal cipher]

was chagzik food

good

[noble nexus]

he wasn't dogshit

[mortal cipher]

so not food

[noble nexus]

he was also on ping all season I think

[worthy void]

changsik is cool

[noble nexus]

he was not food

[mortal cipher]

tru

[hot onyx]

Would’ve had more wins if they built a better team for Dalton to support

[worthy void]

breadsticks

[mortal cipher]

tru

also linkzr was washed

[worthy void]

fire is fire

[noble nexus]

is linkzr out the league yet

[mortal cipher]

i think he retired

[hot onyx]

Linkzr said before joining Titans that he was playing this season just to make some extra money

So he probably retired now

[tiny pollen]

lmao

[noble nexus]

respect it

[tiny pollen]

based

[noble nexus]

also teru was the only somewhat competent vanc player this season idk why y'all are sucking dalton off

[mortal cipher]

i think they said it was his last season

who did he play for last season

[hot onyx]

Outlaws

[noble nexus]

outluls

[mortal cipher]

right

[worthy void]

the best player on philly is definitely

chipsa 🙄

[hot onyx]

Elk

[mortal cipher]

lol

[noble nexus]

philly is shit

[hot onyx]

The fuck you smoking up there

[worthy void]

hopium

[mortal cipher]

blindness it appears

[noble nexus]

philly literally never been good

who tf even is alarm???

[mortal cipher]

lol

wasnt alarm the roty last year

[worthy void]

funny astro

[noble nexus]

nah that was ans

[mortal cipher]

oh

[noble nexus]

:-)

[worthy void]

moth viol2t when

[noble nexus]

never

[mortal cipher]

neve again

[noble nexus]

glads are hording talent now

[hot onyx]

Flex support player currently playing for the Philadelphia Fusion since 2020, formerly with Fusion University since 2018, 2020 MVP Nominee and 2020 ROTY Winner

[worthy void]

fr

whos their team capt btw

space?

[noble nexus]

fuck you

space prolly

[mortal cipher]

lol

[hot onyx]

You wouldn’t

[tiny pollen]

mirror

[mortal cipher]

either space or moth ig

thats all i gt

[worthy void]

hi

[noble nexus]

I would

[mortal cipher]

lol

[noble nexus]

space is def igl atleast

[mortal cipher]

you think your slick do you

[mortal cipher]

noice

[noble nexus]

cursed

[worthy void]

*you're

[north relic]

yes

[worthy void]

[mortal cipher]

sod off

english teacher

[noble nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-awesome-statue-christ-funny-gif-16823012

[worthy void]

I

[mortal cipher]

wot

[north relic]

whats the most cursed player to team combo you can imagine