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next mesa
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that was just in case the meta shifted drastically into a hard hitscan

north relic
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when pine was picked up it made sense

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its just that hitscan became shitscan and visa issues

willow tartan
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lets gooooo

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the only time im rooting for boston

balmy wolf
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fusion

willow tartan
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fusion is T1

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theyre in korea contendier

zealous venture
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i dont get it

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how the fuck are redbird just dominating uprising with a dang junkrat

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it feels so unrealistic

willow tartan
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Skill difference

zealous venture
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i dont get it do they lose iq when playing against them

north relic
willow tartan
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Jakerat on Anubis dominated

zealous venture
zealous venture
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i swear top fucking god whats happening

north relic
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yt reccomended randomly hits every month

zealous venture
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uprising just look like theyre about to win then redbird gets 3 random kills

willow tartan
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That's how the video game works

zealous venture
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i cant fucking see anything it looks like theyre using hacks

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but i know theyre not

north relic
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do you get contenders skins for this

willow tartan
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Yes

zealous venture
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yes

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mei and winston

north relic
willow tartan
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Yes

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Not on the owl costream though

zealous venture
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oh wait im stupid

twin bloom
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Their were better HS's lft than pine

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But whatever

zealous venture
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redbird are playing dive thats why

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but how did reiner just reappear

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last round

willow tartan
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Redbird on dive and UA on rush hmmm

willow tartan
zealous venture
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what the fuck are UA doing?

willow tartan
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Pine was an emergency signing

next mesa
zealous venture
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this looks more like OWL than actual owl

twin bloom
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Godsb

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Lmao

next mesa
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Also im assuming that pine did good in trials beginning of season

willow tartan
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Godsb left Hz after pine was signed

next mesa
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so they just call him up

zealous venture
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didnt pine have visa issues or something

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also

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didnt he join late in the season

willow tartan
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No

zealous venture
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iirc something made him unavailable until later than expected

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i stg miami better pick these guys up

willow tartan
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Visa issues

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But he was already signed to the team before lol

zealous venture
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yeah thats what i said

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anyways

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both UA and Redbird both have owl level players iirc

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isnt reiner lft

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or like

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at least 3 of these ones

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holy shit UA winning?

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wow

twin bloom
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Lol

zealous venture
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let me have this

willow tartan
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If you mean OWL level as in bottom tier OWL level

zealous venture
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yeah bottom level tier

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like

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above valiant roster tier

twin bloom
willow tartan
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Better than valiant at least lol

zealous venture
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lol

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titans level

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maybe?

willow tartan
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Yeah

twin bloom
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Way better than titans and london

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Lol

willow tartan
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Ehh not really

twin bloom
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Boston level

zealous venture
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a lot of them have potential though

twin bloom
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At least

willow tartan
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Not way better

north relic
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isnt lukemino a flex support?

twin bloom
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All these players rolled

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The titabs

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Players

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In t2

willow tartan
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yeah and they went map 5 with Hadi

zealous venture
tawdry hamlet
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Didn't redbirds literally help titans warm up for their only win lmaoo

north relic
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weird hero pool

zealous venture
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s9mm, hydron, reiner, stellar, finale, itsal

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those feel like the really good ones

twin bloom
zealous venture
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i dont really know how good the supports are

willow tartan
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We will see how the Floridian tornado does in s5

twin bloom
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I hope they do boston level

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At least

tawdry hamlet
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I have far more faith I redbirds than I did British hurricane tbh, like if you look at the last few months of 2020 everyone was getting closer to hurricane

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I mean they almost lost to avoided lolll

zealous venture
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british hurricane is stuck in eu hell

willow tartan
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who hasn't almost lost to avoided

zealous venture
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where teams like aww yeah can get top 4

tiny pollen
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ppl dont know how to play against aww yeah

zealous venture
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doesnt really matter everyone loses to falcons lol

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uprising might not get swept this time

zealous venture
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hurricane have declined from my pov

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but eu is so dang weird

willow tartan
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I have more faith in KR and CN contenders prospects

tiny pollen
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^

tawdry hamlet
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Well no shit lmao

zealous venture
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au contenders

tawdry hamlet
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But people shouldn't be sleeping on na contenders though ๐Ÿ˜ค

willow tartan
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no I'm saying if anyone in contenders doesn't do bad it's those players

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but for all we know all of contenders are shitters

zealous venture
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wow

willow tartan
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ow2 new game so excited to see how that works out

zealous venture
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UA win the map?

twin bloom
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Pity map

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L

zealous venture
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surprised

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but pleasantly so

willow tartan
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They've made God bleed.

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UA dub incoming ๐Ÿ˜Ž

zealous venture
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this will b exciting

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really good ults from UA

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simple had 31k healing?

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yeesh

tawdry hamlet
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So is the reason British hurricane is able to be so dominant two years straight just a money gap or scouting or what, like how did they build another top 2 contenders roster so quickly after London took everyone

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Since academy teams elsewhere don't seem to do as well gz academy moment

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And up until like three months ago ua was bottom too

willow tartan
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what about BLG lol

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or team cc winning gauntlet last year

tawdry hamlet
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Blg and gz academy were both bottom like most of last year, didn't mykayleee literally come from blg

willow tartan
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yes but this year I mean

tawdry hamlet
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And team cc is Shanghais academy team so I feel like their success is warranted regardless lmao

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When we bringing back xqc in the gladiators legion tho

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That's the question

willow tartan
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I think the reason why hurricane was so dominant was because they had a solid roster of talented enough players with proper coaching and OWL-like structure

tiny pollen
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nah

willow tartan
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since most of EU contenders is like random orgs with no money

tiny pollen
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it was simply a massive main tank difference

tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
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whilst in KR you have like T1 GENG

tawdry hamlet
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Hadi was too powerful

tiny pollen
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hadi ( ๐Ÿ )

willow tartan
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like where's the big eu eSports orgs in contenders

tawdry hamlet
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Hadi better go to titans to play with the other goat Dalton ๐Ÿ˜ค

willow tartan
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when is G2 getting an OWL team

tiny pollen
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dalton ๐Ÿ’€

tawdry hamlet
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Hadi Frd Dalton Linkzr on the same team would be the biggest meme squad

next mesa
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Holy shit

tiny pollen
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omg that team would be amazing

willow tartan
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Hadi frd Dalton linkzr ripa fire

tiny pollen
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nah

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bad sup line

tawdry hamlet
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Hehe replace one bad eu flex with another bad eu flex support ๐Ÿ’€

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Imagine who is worse, Roolf or Ripa

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Hmm

tiny pollen
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u know who is a good main support and would fit well?

next mesa
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They won a map

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SHEEESH

tiny pollen
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bumper (amengs bitch)

tawdry hamlet
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Ttuba brig ๐Ÿ˜ค

willow tartan
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The only dub that Boston gets this year

tawdry hamlet
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Vancouver Titans announce the signing of main support Closer

tiny pollen
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im gonna be honest what is uprisings comp

next mesa
tiny pollen
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ok they swapped now

tawdry hamlet
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He played flex support for a while because rackattack was really good at brig

next mesa
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Yes

tawdry hamlet
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The amount of players without a team this season is sadge

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Contenders season I mean

next mesa
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I had the impression that finale had a better Hanzo than victoria

next mesa
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Speedily, ojee

twin bloom
next mesa
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Oh shit where

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Owl?

twin bloom
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Thats what the tweet said

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Lol

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Goodbye tweet

next mesa
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Oh yeah

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That's true

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I totally forgot about that

tiny pollen
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oge vs ojee

willow tartan
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What am I witnessing

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Korea diff

twin bloom
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The same thing as yesterday

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UA can contest redbirds

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But redbirds just better

tropic herald
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Looks like today is better than yesterday

willow tartan
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They won like 5 straight fights

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snowball moment

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Im starting to believe

twin bloom
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Drawable

willow tartan
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Winnable

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They just need to win 5 more straight fights

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...

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without losing anyone

tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
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Fuller hold ๐Ÿ’ช

tropic herald
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Team with symm alive longer wins Pog

willow tartan
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That's how rush works

tropic herald
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Yeah

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It was over very fast

willow tartan
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I want ua to win because very funny Korea team win america contender ๐Ÿ˜Ž

mortal cipher
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lol

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thats half the na teams are basically korean team with na name

willow tartan
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yes so contenders should be the same troel

north relic
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isnt he ultraviolet

twin bloom
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Fusion uni were essentially all KR

north relic
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wouldnt it be uv

twin bloom
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ATL academy better tho

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And they all NA

tropic herald
willow tartan
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uprising academy

willow tartan
twin bloom
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And won

willow tartan
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they won?

twin bloom
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Yeah they won both seasons they played in NA

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With a full KR roster

willow tartan
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Korea diff

twin bloom
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They had carcar for MS and snillo for flex dps tho

tropic herald
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Alarm diff

north relic
willow tartan
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ballskaya time

north relic
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@willow tartan were you ever serious about the minewatch server

tropic herald
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God Moira comps are boring thank you redbird for getting off them

north relic
forest raven
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Now only super, carpe, and eqo are left as true OG's Sadge

willow tartan
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poko:

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pog one clip wtf

earnest leaf
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Well I suppose poko/eqo aren't officially gone from fusion

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they're in the same scenario as glister/smurf/twilight

north relic
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is qoq a sigma one trick

tropic herald
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No lol

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Eqo n Poko are FAs but I think itโ€™s for real

twin bloom
forest raven
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God they did Hybrid so dirty with that clip

tropic herald
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Iโ€™m tempted to go through owl replays and do random players dirty

north relic
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i feel like it isnt even bad hybrid aim its just god heesu strafing

barren quest
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No regs bro

willow tartan
tawdry hamlet
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Hybrid could have right clicked tho

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Since Heesu was stunned loll

novel owl
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whoa i just realized jjonak departed

tawdry hamlet
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Good ability ๐Ÿ™

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Idk people are arguing that rein shield or Ana sleep can stop 2 ults like nothing so the field doesn't even matter

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But an e that insta counters two ults feels so different than rein shield or sleep to me

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As far as skill goes

tiny pollen
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i love immortality :D

north relic
tawdry hamlet
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Like sleep sure hitting the sleep is hard so that's fair

north relic
tawdry hamlet
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Shield I mean I guess if you look the wrong way or it gets melted idk

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As far as rein blocking ults goes lmao

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But the other is just e

north relic
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shield you can easily just focus it

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lamp can go around corners and shit

tiny pollen
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i think lamp is a necesary evil though

tawdry hamlet
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As much as I dislike lamp I also still want it in game lmao

gusty rampart
tiny pollen
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jonak to justice

tawdry hamlet
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Also lamp can be eaten right?

tiny pollen
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no

gusty rampart
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No

tawdry hamlet
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Lolol

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Good ability ๐Ÿ™

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Idk why it isn't eatable like mei ult or grav

tiny pollen
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its a buildable

tawdry hamlet
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But oh well

gusty rampart
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JJoNak to Seoul

tiny pollen
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like torb turret and sym

gusty rampart
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And he can still go to NYXL

tiny pollen
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twilight and smurf to seoul kek

tawdry hamlet
tiny pollen
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lmao

tawdry hamlet
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That gesture marve1 thing was wildddd then the toyou gesture era ๐Ÿ˜ค

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Essentially just replace gesture already profit was the far better value player lmao

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When they picked both of them up for fat money

earnest leaf
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jjonak to justice

willow tartan
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Wait is there no gauntlet this year?

novel owl
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i think its gonna be too hard to balance lamp without rebalancing bap as a whole

tiny pollen
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you would have to rebalance whole game imo

willow tartan
novel owl
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theyll probably balance lamp in ow2 since its 5v5

mortal cipher
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jjonak to dallas

tiny pollen
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nah

stuck radish
tiny pollen
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yea

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imo there is to much damage in the game for slower comps

earnest leaf
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as of right now I can see that

stuck radish
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thats a damage problem though

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the damage in the game is stupidly high rn

tiny pollen
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yeah

earnest leaf
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Considering tanks can die in literally half a second

stuck radish
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and with that

tiny pollen
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thats why lamp is a necesary evil

stuck radish
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the healing is also stupidly high

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lamp is just unhealthy for the game all around

willow tartan
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doesnt matter how high your healing is if you get bursted

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thats why lamp exists

tiny pollen
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^

stuck radish
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somewhat fix a problem by adding another problem

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pog

earnest leaf
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Basically

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blizz bad at balancing

tiny pollen
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yeah

willow tartan
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people say bliz bad balance but then never offer a solution to perfect the game smh

tiny pollen
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i dont think that overwatch can be balanced

willow tartan
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yes

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ow too hard to balance thats why we're going to 5v5

stuck radish
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lower spam damage and lower aoe healing

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game is already better

earnest leaf
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I would be so good at balancing this game

tiny pollen
willow tartan
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go be a blizzard dev then 4head

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they are hiring

earnest leaf
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I don't think they want to hire an 18 year old without any experience

stuck radish
willow tartan
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just say youre good at balancing

tiny pollen
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they should have coaches decide balance during off season

willow tartan
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thats literally inventing politics in esports

earnest leaf
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that would be terrible

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coaches would balance around their players

willow tartan
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coaches form lobbying groups to vy for the meta that best helps their team

earnest leaf
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or try to a bit

willow tartan
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literally politics

tiny pollen
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thatd be funny

willow tartan
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almost as bad as letting pros balance the game

earnest leaf
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Just have Moon perma buffing sombra

willow tartan
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shock/atlanta/justice voting bloc to make rein rush op

tiny pollen
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chinese alliance to buff ball

willow tartan
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chinese united front to make perma dive

novel owl
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perma dive is fun to watch

tawdry hamlet
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JJonak to justice would be so much better than bebe just by existing, though knowing them they'll sign someone like mcd kek

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Bet they sign the most mid support line ever for a second year

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Justice announce the signing of slime and MCD ๐Ÿ’€

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Or slime and lastro lmao

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I could see them go for myunbong but if they are smart they'd offer fat stacks to gnj

stuck radish
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shanghai should be forced to give up 2 of their starting lineup players so that s5 wont be shanghai simulator again

earnest leaf
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eh

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They can't be at the peak forever

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they already lost two coaches

tropic herald
north relic
next mesa
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so good ana

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come to soeul

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seoul

stuck radish
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alright

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you can have Bebe

willow tartan
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way better upgrade over bebe

devout path
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The xenophobia

willow tartan
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yeah but justice is an all korean team

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so i dont think theyd run into any issue

novel owl
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it was mcd that was being racist ?

devout path
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That doesnโ€™t fix the fact that heโ€™s xenophobic???

willow tartan
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that has nothing to do with what im talking about

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im saying he would be an upgrade on the justice support line

devout path
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Be like oh this guy is homophobic but we donโ€™t have any lgbtq players so we should be good

willow tartan
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???

tiny pollen
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mcd becomes extra xenophobic and gets banned so pre has to take over flex support

novel owl
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i mean he is an upgrade yes since hes a good support, but i doubt that theyll hire him again

devout path
willow tartan
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never said he was in consideration lol

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man is blacklisted from OWL probs

novel owl
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yea

devout path
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Then why talk about him

tiny pollen
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he dif is

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def

novel owl
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he should be

devout path
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Forget about him and move on

willow tartan
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just that micheal said that picking up mcd would be a mid tier support

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and im telling him that its wrong

tiny pollen
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china is largest market and you cant risk that

willow tartan
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because i disagree that mcd would make a mid support line

novel owl
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id say hes one of the good tier supp

willow tartan
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yea exactly

novel owl
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too bad he wasted it

twin bloom
# devout path The xenophobia

You'd be suprised how many KR players have said the same things as MCD but haven't gotten punished because their not on chinese teams lol

tiny pollen
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but was it on stream to a chengdu player lol

twin bloom
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If MCD was on seoul or fusion

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He'd still be in OWL

novel owl
twin bloom
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Nah. Just haven't been exposed

novel owl
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ahh i see

twin bloom
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Viol2t did I think

novel owl
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i thought its because ppl dont understand korean

twin bloom
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But it was a while ago

earnest leaf
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Most people have probably said something that isn't publicly acceptable at a certain point

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in owl

novel owl
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yea

earnest leaf
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well honestly

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most people in general have

novel owl
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agree

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but some ppl are stupid enough to say it in public when ppl are watching them

willow tartan
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yes

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dont say it on stream dumb dumb

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owl player so stuupid

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all their brain cell go to playing game

tawdry hamlet
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yeah that is the bigger issue, if you said a slur in private like 3 years ago yeah it sucks but whatever but if you can't contain yourself on a platform with lots of viewers such as on stream

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that is the bigger issue

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not that I advocate it regardless but ya know

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since I would be lying if I said that in my past I have never said something fucked up so holding others to that standard is unfair, just like don't do that shit on stream or at all if possible lmao

novel owl
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yeah it be like that for famous people

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unless some media dig deep enough

tawdry hamlet
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GodsB and qoq I hope get another chance in the league spark wasted them

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I mean tbf shy is miles above godsb so it makes sense he wouldn't get play time this year and wanted to leave but he's not bad at all

next mesa
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True

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I think godsb is kinda mid

tawdry hamlet
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Who are the mid hitscans tbh I can't think of a hitscan in the middle they're mostly either bad or good besides a few

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I guess people like tarocookie

nova leaf
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do you have any idea how little that makes sense?

tawdry hamlet
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Well they're either bottom of the barrel like Logix or top of the class like carpe there's like not a whole lot of middle hitscans

nova leaf
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you literally just said you can't think of any average hitscan and then finish your message off with "besides a few"

tawdry hamlet
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Nah he's bottom lmao

gusty rampart
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Nah top

tawdry hamlet
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True

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The goat

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DaltonSzn account incoming

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๐Ÿ’€

gusty rampart
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Ratio

tawdry hamlet
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So who is a mid hitscan? Happy comes to mind heh

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Jerry I guess

gusty rampart
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Flora

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Glister

tawdry hamlet
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Hmm yeah that's fair

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Also the comments of Jerry's Boston farewell video lolll

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In my head Canon that single comment is why Washington signed Jerry ๐Ÿ˜ค

gusty rampart
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Oh and im37

tawdry hamlet
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Eh tbh I put im37 below mid

gusty rampart
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I think he did good on a decent amount of matches

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His Cree is good

next mesa
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Bqb

gusty rampart
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Nahhhhh

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At least above mid

forest raven
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Bqb isn't better than glister

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Anyway

gusty rampart
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I'm going to cry

tawdry hamlet
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Nice bait

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And yeah bqb is better than glister imo ๐Ÿ™

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Only difference is glister has a better Sombra and tracer but bqb is better at everyone else imo

gusty rampart
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Ashe yes

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Widow yes

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McCree probably

tawdry hamlet
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And I say that as someone who likes glister too I think bqb is just better on flick heroes

gusty rampart
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BQB has a lot of talent

willow tartan
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is

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he's not retired

gusty rampart
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BQB and Yaki was probably my favorite DPS lineup in 2021

tawdry hamlet
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Aspire Heesu ๐Ÿ™

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Dalton Linkzr ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€

gusty rampart
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Dalton just carried the League

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He was the DPS lineup

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He IS the DPS of the OWL

tawdry hamlet
worldly flax
twin bloom
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Dalton isnt that bad lmao

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Tragically was stuck on a team with roolf for 2 years

supple prism
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get ready for the wave of free agent signings coming on the 10th

next mesa
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He has the potential to be mid

worldly flax
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la valiant isn't posting anything about letting go of their players and stuff DoomfistHuh AnaRly

novel owl
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cuz theyre letting owl go

willow tartan
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"Thank you, Los Angeles Valiant" post from OWL

forest raven
earnest leaf
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No way shock let him walk for free

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mfs better be offering him a fat stack

worldly flax
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ans in dallas fuel PogChimp

tawdry hamlet
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that wouldn't be too bad

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more consistent than pine

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and if anything they can just bench him if they have to

plush grail
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ans gone

worldly flax
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maybe sfshock let twilight be a free agent so they can sign jjonak

plush grail
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No way

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Straight downgrade

sullen berry
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Disagree

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Jjonak would be another big forehead for a team that already has two

weak cypress
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How do i get to know the scene/players? Im kinda new to ow

willow tartan
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read every single twitter post tagged with anyone remotely related to OWL

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twitter, reddit, wechat, weibo, youtube, bilibili

novel owl
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youre late owl is dead

mortal abyss
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The last official OW1 match

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Is Australia contenders finals

north relic
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ironic

willow tartan
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OW collegiate is still going and its on OW1 @mortal abyss

somber latch
weak cypress
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Cause of the franchising?

novel owl
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nah because there wont be anymore ow 1 owl

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we r moving to ow2 next year

weak cypress
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Ah

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When does ow2 releases?

willow tartan
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April next year when the season starts

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They will be on an ow2 beta

weak cypress
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And when will it be released just the players?

willow tartan
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no idea

novel owl
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kek

north relic
noble nexus
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2017

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Def before ball but I canโ€™t remember when Orisa came out

raw ermine
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oh no

north relic
devout path
north relic
devout path
raw ermine
north relic
devout path
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or today

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idk

wicked pendant
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Come on

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How much lower can the Titans org go?

willow tartan
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they released the ow2 pro povs lets gooo

twin bloom
next mesa
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The calm before the storm

worn falcon
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The entire of Shanghai dropped

sullen berry
devout path
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gg

raw ermine
gusty rampart
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Get this man on Shanghai

wicked pendant
tawdry hamlet
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Just saying now

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If Boston cut Lori as coach they're throwing ๐Ÿ™

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But justice could use him ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

noble nexus
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boston throwing wouldn't surprise me

tawdry hamlet
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The goat is lft ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

north relic
raw ermine
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not yet

last nimbus
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its the streamer boy oh my god!

trail perch
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Dallas rolling shock on dorado but shock rolled dallas on havana

gusty rampart
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Shock usually gets dominant wins on Havana or Fatal losses on Havana

fallen turret
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Wtf

next mesa
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wait

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what the fuck

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excuse me

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excuse me

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what the fuck

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what the fucking fuck

last nimbus
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huh

gusty rampart
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No fucking way

next mesa
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there's just no fucking way that just happened

gusty rampart
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I want to cry

next mesa
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no fucking way

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NOOOOOOOOO

last nimbus
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lmao

next mesa
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WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GOOOOOOOOOO

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๐Ÿฅฒ

last nimbus
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toronto

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XD

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watch toronto just sign this team

north relic
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DAFAQ

noble nexus
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๐Ÿข

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this shit dumb asf tbh

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I mean losing fd and ta1yo is reasonable

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and twilight probably wanted to leave

plush light
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It's OK, viol2t just got ahold of the Twitter and is trolling us (or so I would like to think)

last nimbus
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i get fdgod taiyo and nero

north relic
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what happened to taiyo man

last nimbus
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but why twilight ans and smurf man

north relic
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man

noble nexus
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nero was easily the most consistent shock player all season

last nimbus
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neros likely not going to play anyways

north relic
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so who is left

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for shock

noble nexus
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choi super viol2t

last nimbus
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so its understandable he left the team lol

gusty rampart
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I'm tired of breathing

next mesa
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guys

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guys

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Ans to Dallas

plush light
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Plz be a viol2t troll

noble nexus
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Ans to Dallas would be insane tbh

last nimbus
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i dont think this is a troll

next mesa
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GUYS GUYS ANS TO DALLAS ANS TO DALLAS

turbid cargo
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HOLY SHIT

last nimbus
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ans better than pine anyways

plush light
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I WANT TO SEE PINE PLAY THOUGH

noble nexus
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if that's the case it's probably the biggest pickup this offseason imo

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Pine isn't even signed to dallas anymore lol

tired furnace
balmy wolf
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shock????

bronze scroll
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seems like it

balmy wolf
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shock????

plush light
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Pine is literally the reason I started playing overwatch, it's so sad that he didn't play.

last nimbus
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i would fucking eat my shoes if pine played in playoffs

bronze scroll
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seems like shock is going with the lets just drop almost our entire team strategy

last nimbus
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he was a month or something back with his team

plush light
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Is super gone?

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Smurf to Houston?

noble nexus
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super isn't gone rn

fallen turret
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Super, Choi, violet remain for now

trail perch
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signings are allowed to start now right?

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Today is the first day for signing

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right?

last nimbus
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tbh some of them will be added back to the roster

trail perch
last nimbus
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i believe

trail perch
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Super viol2t choi

noble nexus
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smurf to glads best case scenario for me rn aPES_SaxophoneSunglasses

next mesa
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Ans to dallas

plush light
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The shock lost moth and lost the W

trail perch
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Glister and Smurf to glads

noble nexus
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yeah I think so too

trail perch
#

Imagine that

trail perch
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And glister

bronze scroll
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who remain?

trail perch
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cause birdring gone

last nimbus
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that would make glads so fucking good

noble nexus
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yeahh

plush light
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Who will sign BQB?

noble nexus
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shock

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:)

plush light
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And gnj

balmy wolf
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shock mid team

noble nexus
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old news

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shock is cock

plush light
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My Florida mayhem boys

last nimbus
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just realized glister isnt even in the poster

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lol disrespect

gusty rampart
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Why

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I would've left out Ta1yo to add him

last nimbus
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prob didnt fit XD

plush light
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Glister carry to big

last nimbus
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im laughing so fucking hard shock just released smurf and ans loooooooool

gusty rampart
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It was sorta obvious Smurf was gonna leave

next mesa
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wait is glister still on the team

last nimbus
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I dont believe ans will go to another team

next mesa
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wait what

gusty rampart
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No

next mesa
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glister isnt even in the team

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the poster

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the fuck

last nimbus
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I believe hes going to get signed back to shock

next mesa
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wtf is going on

last nimbus
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Yep epic disrespect

bronze scroll
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that might be why they forgot him. If they are planning on re-signing him

north relic
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today is the day isnt it?

balmy wolf
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Shock will pull a Vancouver

north relic
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so only the originals are still on shock

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choi super violet

last nimbus
bronze scroll
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then make everybody smaller

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dont leave one person out

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thats just straight up wrong

trail perch
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Glister Smurf to glads pls

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Make it happen

stuck radish
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smurf noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

noble nexus
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glister smurf to glads and I'll fucking coom

tacit skiff
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what the fuck

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I expected Smurf

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but almost everyone???

shadow dagger
vagrant cargo
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i dont think glistrr will be able to reach his potential under dpei sadly

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i hope he goes to a team w cracked coaching

tacit skiff
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it's just Choi and Super left right?

tired furnace
shadow dagger
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yes

north relic
tacit skiff
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right

vagrant cargo
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viol2t da goat

balmy wolf
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For some reason whatever the roster i don't think that shock will win next years Grand finals. It will a lot of time to build that synergy.

shadow dagger
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oh yeah and viol2t

north relic
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Glister to shd gets benched all season and retires

tacit skiff
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if I were Super, I'd get signed as a cc

vagrant cargo
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i hope glister fucks next season

tacit skiff
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I never thought I'd see the day where the Shock were left with three shock fam players

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Ans came back and for what lmao

stuck radish
#

ans prob going back to valorant

north relic
north relic
tacit skiff
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ans said he was fa

stuck radish
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nvm then

tacit skiff
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I mean he could go back to Valorant if he wanted to

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if he doesn't like an ow offers

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wonder what Crusty is thinking

north relic
raw ermine
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what the fuck

fallen turret
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Yup

tacit skiff
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he's got a point

worn falcon
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Shock

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Wtf

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I'm shocked now

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They keep super?

north relic
#

Honestly all of them had fa posts before this

raw ermine
#

Super will have his own retirement post I bet

tacit skiff
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super and choi

north relic
#

We shouldnโ€™t be that shocked

tacit skiff
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and viol2t

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flex support fa go brrrrrr

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myunbong to td

worn falcon
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Keeping the feeder ml7Weird

tacit skiff
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astro to justice

worn falcon
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Jjonak to shock then

worldly flax
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ans to dallas fuel?

north relic
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Canโ€™t have support rotation problems if you have one support

tacit skiff
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10/10 chance jjonak chooses another apac team

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I think he enjoys full Korean rosters

north relic
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Many na teams are full korean

tacit skiff
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some are

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but none of them really compare to apac

north relic
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Wdym

tacit skiff
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unless he goes to Dallas or Shock, I don't see him going NA

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I think Jjonak on Chengdu or Spark would be nice tbh

sullen berry
worldly flax
#

the timing

north relic
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Has dink said anything

tacit skiff
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Dink in shambles

north relic
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Just checked, he is me yesterday

tacit skiff
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poor FD

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hope Lucio gets good in ow2

worldly flax
#

smurf streaming rn JunkratShock

north relic
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according to moth beat takes 17 hours to build

vagrant cargo
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i dont get how FDGod flopped so hard

tacit skiff
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statically, beat takes the longest

vagrant cargo
#

his brig was insane on paris

tacit skiff
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it just stacks per teammate

vagrant cargo
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and his mercy was shit yeah but i thought crusty could fix that

north relic
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smurf gotta fix his description

tacit skiff
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crusty can't fix everything

worldly flax
tacit skiff
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legend has it they all left after experiencing ow2

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so weird they chose to upload the Jecse pov after he got dropped

leaden condor
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What just happend to shockโ€ฆ

tacit skiff
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they dropped everyone but Super, Choi and Viol2t

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just gonna keep that copied cause more shock fans are gonna be asking that in the future

leaden condor
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Yeah but Iโ€™m surprised on some of them

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Surely they sign some back

tacit skiff
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they wouldn't have done if they wanted to

worn falcon
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Striker to Uprising then

leaden condor
#

Nah they might just be letting them explore options then come back

tacit skiff
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like the good old days

leaden condor
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A lot of teams do that

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No smurf tho thatโ€™s sad

tacit skiff
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I'm sorry

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your copium is getting to you

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it's better to let them go

weak bolt
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Shock cleared house, wow

leaden condor
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The other 4 tho I think should of gone

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3*

worn falcon
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Nero and Smurf i was expecting

leaden condor
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Ans smurf should stay

north relic
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goodbye~

worn falcon
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I didn't expect to drop twilight

north relic
weak bolt
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Have to assume Nero retired, and Twilight wanted playtime elsewhere

tacit skiff
#

the end of the shock for good, letsgooooo

north relic
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you didnt see the fa post

worn falcon
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Free agent

north relic
#

super choi viol2t is still a good core

leaden condor
#

Twilight will defo get picked up again

worn falcon
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Not like they free free

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Just checking offers

leaden condor
tacit skiff
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super is a good mt, he's worth keeping over Smurf

worn falcon
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Then the post came and twilight dropped

leaden condor
#

And go down the Asian route

tacit skiff
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make Choi learn ball

leaden condor
#

I feel like Choi is gonna get 0 game time in OW 2 with super being able to flex pretty well

weak bolt
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Give me Smurf to LAG though, that's the move I want to see

leaden condor
tacit skiff
#

WHY ARE RALLY SHIELDS GREEN IN OW2

worldly flax
worn falcon
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Smurf to Toronto

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Ez

tacit skiff
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Smurf to glads

leaden condor
worldly flax
#

smurf to mayhems PogChimp

tacit skiff
#

myunbong to Toronto :)

weak bolt
leaden condor
#

I wonder who the shock will pick up as the replacements

barren quest
#

Temporary shields and armor are replaced with overheal

weak bolt
#

There goes my theory on Nero retiring

tacit skiff
#

Nero coaching

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respectable

worldly flax
#

what

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dude's gonna keep playing

weak bolt
#

He says the opposite, fk coaching, carry on playing

worldly flax
sullen berry
#

Im gonna keep playing fk coaching

tacit skiff
#

ik

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that's literally

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okay

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nvm

sullen berry
#

yeah your words lost us

weak bolt
#

Question is, are Shock going to spend big this year and go for Championship #3

tacit skiff
#

no

weak bolt
#

FunnyAstro to Shock? He's in FA right now...

worldly flax
#

wait how many dps does shock have left

tacit skiff
#

0

weak bolt
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0 dps left

worldly flax
#

???? bruh?

tacit skiff
#

I mean Striker is in the market ig

leaden condor
weak bolt
#

I'm surprised ANS is gone

sullen berry
weak bolt
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I figured they'd keep him around

leaden condor
#

Two tanks and a healer

weak bolt
worldly flax
#

nero to outluls?

weak bolt
#

LAG would be my bet

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Now Mirror/Birdring gone

worldly flax
#

ooh that would make sense

sullen berry
#

LA Valiant rebuild

leaden condor
#

I feel like LAG are gonna be shock 2.0

weak bolt
#

Feels like this off season just got wild

leaden condor
#

Smurf and Nero go there

sullen berry
balmy wolf
weak bolt
#

Smurf/Nero/Moth/Kevster/Shu sounds a pretty good lineup to me

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With Space/Skewed as backups

leaden condor
#

I honestly could see LAG using space as the starting tank

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Since he can flex decently well

barren quest
worldly flax
#

still hoping to see a 'sike' kind of tweet from sfshock tomorrow and they'll re-sign the players again

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totally not copium

barren quest
#

But Blase Hitscan is never going to match the true gods among hitscans

hot onyx
weak bolt
#

If it were a bait they'd have put Super in

tacit skiff
#

watching the Jecse pov for ow2 and saw him try to Stun super as ball ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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on brig

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rip brig

weak cypress
#

did shock drop their entire roster or something?

tacit skiff
#

yes

weak bolt
barren quest
tawdry hamlet
#

Smurf Choi and violet all by themselves like ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Super not Smurf kek

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I can't even get my own brain around Smurf not on shock ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

devout path
#

tomorrow

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im soe xcited for tomorrow

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crazy day

tawdry hamlet
#

Smurf Nero moth Kevster ans skewed shu team ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

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LAG ez

weak cypress
devout path
weak bolt
#

Still expecting a lot more farewell posts today too

worldly flax
#

I hope striker comes back to shock

tawdry hamlet
#

Striker to LAG hehe

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Moth reunion

worldly flax
sullen berry
#

A reminder was all I need

weak bolt
#

I hope Shock sign BQB/Yaki honestly

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Add in Striker

sullen berry
#

All players unrenewed contracts are now sent to Free Agency

mortal abyss
#

Nero โ€”> Houston?

sullen berry
#

Nero to LAG is more likely

weak bolt
#

Nero and Danteh have too similar hero pools imo

mortal abyss
#

I donโ€™t think so

sullen berry
#

here's my take

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LAV

worldly flax
#

lol

sullen berry
#

full rebuild, never again do they want to have a chinese org set up a chinese team

weak bolt
#

Unless someone totally new has bought out LAV, I don't see many people taking a chance joining them

mortal abyss
weak bolt
#

They've been a shitshow of an org for a few years, it'd be like joining Titans lol

north relic
#

smurf to houston makes a lot of sense to me

twin bloom
north relic
twin bloom
#

Instead of forcing happy

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On heros he's not good on

mortal abyss
weak bolt
#

You could do, but its a lot of overlap for hoping on 1 or 2 meta

vagrant cargo
weak bolt
#

Wonder if Mayhem are building an NA superteam and that's Nero's target

twin bloom
vagrant cargo
#

kevster is better on every hero except mei

vagrant cargo
#

and if u go for a pure projectile player id rather go for choisewhan

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or yaki

twin bloom
#

Mayhem are not going to be good next year

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They aren't signing most of AT

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Just a rumor

weak bolt
#

Only rumours i saw on Mayhem was ditching korean to go NA, and hoping to get AT. If the AT stuff isn't working out, there are a bunch of NA talent opening up

abstract nova
#

Why is alll of shock gone

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wtf

weak bolt
#

Or atleast NA/EU

tawdry hamlet
vagrant cargo
#

ayo hear me out

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MuZe Yaki Shock

twin bloom
#

Is super a streamer for shock

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Or a player

vagrant cargo
#

MuZe compliments super perfectly and can swap to a rlly good rein if needed

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unlike smurf whos rein was eeeeeh

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and i think yaki just wipes nero

twin bloom
#

It doesn't make sense to have 3 tank players for OW 2

worldly flax
#

checked liquipedia and this feels like it's photoshopped NotLikeSoldier

twin bloom
#

Honestly

vagrant cargo
#

yeah true

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i forgot

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5v5

weak bolt
#

FS market this year is weird. Twilight, Gangnamjim, Myunbong, Jjonak all on the market

tawdry hamlet
#

Lastro for Vancouver ๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ˜ˆ

weak bolt
#

Lastro/Kariv also in the FS market

tawdry hamlet
#

Kariv omegalul

twin bloom
#

Kariv

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Lol

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Washed

#

Playah

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Kr roolf

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Tbh

#

Provide better LA valiant FS than Kariv

weak bolt
#

Meanwhile main support is Jecse, Slime, Joobi, FDgod, Closer, Tobi

tawdry hamlet
#

Tobi ๐Ÿ˜ญ

tawdry hamlet
stuck radish
#

i wonder how fast fleta and lip would get offers if they went fa

weak bolt
#

I suspect we're in for quite a few more goodbye posts today. I think there is going to be quite a few more player shuffles about

twin bloom
umbral bay
#

WHAT JUST HAPPENED WITH THE SHOCK

#

They have 3 people

north relic
umbral bay
#

Literally 3

abstract nova
#

yes ._.

#

man

#

what

north relic
#

a lot of teams have 1-2 players

abstract nova
#

which ones, london and what other teams

north relic
umbral bay
#

Sfs now

umbral bay
barren quest
#

NYXL only has Flora rn

umbral bay
#

Wait what

#

Oh

abstract nova
umbral bay
#

This shit doesnโ€™t happen at the end of every season does it?

#

To this degree?

abstract nova
#

don't think so

umbral bay
#

Maybe because ow2, but that would only really be tanks.

mortal abyss
neat tundra
#

no but this is the biggest change since no one actual knows what will be good in OW2

umbral bay
#

But why drop jjonak? Or ans? Theyโ€™re great players who helped carry the teams. Jjonak was the best player for the nyxl

abstract nova
#

Titans dropped no one yet?

#

idk

north relic
neat tundra
#

rumor is they are dropping almost everyone

abstract nova
weak bolt
#

Knowing titans they'll drop everyone without a goodbye post, but tweet about some pizza deals

abstract nova
#

Ohhh Nero didn't retire

#

cool

earnest leaf
#

Tfw you wake up to shock getting wiped out

mortal cipher
#

shock tho

rare magnet
#

daytime dorado and nightime havana what is this the wear ur pants inside out day