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when pine was picked up it made sense
its just that hitscan became shitscan and visa issues
fusion
i dont get it
how the fuck are redbird just dominating uprising with a dang junkrat
it feels so unrealistic
Skill difference
i dont get it do they lose iq when playing against them
are you telling me you never have been dominated by a junkrat?
Jakerat on Anubis dominated
not in a way like this
i swear top fucking god whats happening
yt reccomended randomly hits every month
uprising just look like theyre about to win then redbird gets 3 random kills
That's how the video game works
i cant fucking see anything it looks like theyre using hacks
but i know theyre not
do you get contenders skins for this
Yes
can i do !drops and not get deleted
oh wait im stupid
redbird are playing dive thats why
but how did reiner just reappear
last round
Redbird on dive and UA on rush hmmm
After the season started?...
what the fuck are UA doing?
Pine was an emergency signing
who in the middle of season
this looks more like OWL than actual owl
Also im assuming that pine did good in trials beginning of season
Godsb left Hz after pine was signed
so they just call him up
didnt pine have visa issues or something
also
didnt he join late in the season
No
iirc something made him unavailable until later than expected
i stg miami better pick these guys up
yeah thats what i said
anyways
both UA and Redbird both have owl level players iirc
isnt reiner lft
or like
at least 3 of these ones
holy shit UA winning?
wow
If you mean OWL level as in bottom tier OWL level
UV and reiner>>>>>>izyaki and fate
Better than valiant at least lol
Yeah
Ehh not really
Boston level
a lot of them have potential though
At least
Not way better
isnt lukemino a flex support?
yeah and they went map 5 with Hadi
hes lucio but from my pov he hasnt played that great
Didn't redbirds literally help titans warm up for their only win lmaoo
yea but isnt he a flex support
weird hero pool
s9mm, hydron, reiner, stellar, finale, itsal
those feel like the really good ones
Good quality warm up gap
i dont really know how good the supports are
We will see how the Floridian tornado does in s5
I have far more faith I redbirds than I did British hurricane tbh, like if you look at the last few months of 2020 everyone was getting closer to hurricane
I mean they almost lost to avoided lolll
british hurricane is stuck in eu hell
who hasn't almost lost to avoided
where teams like aww yeah can get top 4
ppl dont know how to play against aww yeah
doesnt really matter everyone loses to falcons lol
uprising might not get swept this time
Contenders hopium
I have more faith in KR and CN contenders prospects
^
Well no shit lmao
au contenders
But people shouldn't be sleeping on na contenders though ๐ค
no I'm saying if anyone in contenders doesn't do bad it's those players
but for all we know all of contenders are shitters
wow
ow2 new game so excited to see how that works out
UA win the map?
So is the reason British hurricane is able to be so dominant two years straight just a money gap or scouting or what, like how did they build another top 2 contenders roster so quickly after London took everyone
Since academy teams elsewhere don't seem to do as well gz academy moment
And up until like three months ago ua was bottom too
Blg and gz academy were both bottom like most of last year, didn't mykayleee literally come from blg
yes but this year I mean
And team cc is Shanghais academy team so I feel like their success is warranted regardless lmao
When we bringing back xqc in the gladiators legion tho
That's the question
I think the reason why hurricane was so dominant was because they had a solid roster of talented enough players with proper coaching and OWL-like structure
nah
since most of EU contenders is like random orgs with no money
it was simply a massive main tank difference

whilst in KR you have like T1 GENG
Hadi was too powerful
hadi ( ๐ )
like where's the big eu eSports orgs in contenders
Hadi better go to titans to play with the other goat Dalton ๐ค
when is G2 getting an OWL team
dalton ๐
Hadi Frd Dalton Linkzr on the same team would be the biggest meme squad
Holy shit
omg that team would be amazing
Hadi frd Dalton linkzr ripa fire
Hehe replace one bad eu flex with another bad eu flex support ๐
Imagine who is worse, Roolf or Ripa
Hmm
u know who is a good main support and would fit well?
bumper (amengs bitch)
Ttuba brig ๐ค
The only dub that Boston gets this year
im gonna be honest what is uprisings comp
MS, transitioned to FS a bit before but bacm
ok they swapped now
He played flex support for a while because rackattack was really good at brig
Yes
The amount of players without a team this season is sadge
Contenders season I mean
I had the impression that finale had a better Hanzo than victoria
Yeah for some reason bobby wasabi didn't participate
Speedily, ojee
Because ojee leaving for better oppurtunities
oge vs ojee
Looks like today is better than yesterday
Drawable
Winnable
They just need to win 5 more straight fights
...
without losing anyone

Fuller hold ๐ช
Team with symm alive longer wins Pog
That's how rush works
I want ua to win because very funny Korea team win america contender ๐
yes so contenders should be the same 
why is he called ua btw
isnt he ultraviolet
Fusion uni were essentially all KR
wouldnt it be uv
UA is Uprising Academy
uprising academy
Fusion Uni played in Korean contenders...
They played 2 seasons in NA with 4 KR starters
And won
they won?
Korea diff
They had carcar for MS and snillo for flex dps tho
Alarm diff
ok i have lost braincells
ballskaya time
@willow tartan were you ever serious about the minewatch server
God Moira comps are boring thank you redbird for getting off them
it has overwatch in it sadge
Now only super, carpe, and eqo are left as true OG's 
isn't eqo a free agent now?
Well I suppose poko/eqo aren't officially gone from fusion
they're in the same scenario as glister/smurf/twilight
is qoq a sigma one trick
No he's a dva one trick
God they did Hybrid so dirty with that clip
Iโm tempted to go through owl replays and do random players dirty
i feel like it isnt even bad hybrid aim its just god heesu strafing
No regs bro

Carcar da goat
Hybrid could have right clicked tho
Since Heesu was stunned loll
whoa i just realized jjonak departed
Good ability ๐
Idk people are arguing that rein shield or Ana sleep can stop 2 ults like nothing so the field doesn't even matter
But an e that insta counters two ults feels so different than rein shield or sleep to me
As far as skill goes
i love immortality :D
the other two have counterplay i feel like
Like sleep sure hitting the sleep is hard so that's fair
also dm and shield
Shield I mean I guess if you look the wrong way or it gets melted idk
As far as rein blocking ults goes lmao
But the other is just e
i think lamp is a necesary evil though
As much as I dislike lamp I also still want it in game lmao
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jonak to justice
Also lamp can be eaten right?
no
No
its a buildable
But oh well
JJoNak to Seoul
like torb turret and sym
And he can still go to NYXL
twilight and smurf to seoul kek
Seoul refuses to have a real tankline ever sorry

lmao
That gesture marve1 thing was wildddd then the toyou gesture era ๐ค
Essentially just replace gesture already profit was the far better value player lmao
When they picked both of them up for fat money
jjonak to justice
Wait is there no gauntlet this year?
i think its gonna be too hard to balance lamp without rebalancing bap as a whole
you would have to rebalance whole game imo
nah nah gesture solo hog tank gonna be fire
theyll probably balance lamp in ow2 since its 5v5
jjonak to dallas
nah
is it though
as of right now I can see that
yeah
Considering tanks can die in literally half a second
and with that
thats why lamp is a necesary evil
^
yeah
people say bliz bad balance but then never offer a solution to perfect the game smh
i dont think that overwatch can be balanced
I would be so good at balancing this game
perma dive meta
I don't think they want to hire an 18 year old without any experience
at least the game would be in a better state
just say youre good at balancing
true lol
they should have coaches decide balance during off season
thats literally inventing politics in esports
coaches form lobbying groups to vy for the meta that best helps their team
or try to a bit
literally politics
thatd be funny
almost as bad as letting pros balance the game
Just have Moon perma buffing sombra
shock/atlanta/justice voting bloc to make rein rush op
chinese alliance to buff ball
chinese united front to make perma dive
perma dive is fun to watch
JJonak to justice would be so much better than bebe just by existing, though knowing them they'll sign someone like mcd kek
Bet they sign the most mid support line ever for a second year
Justice announce the signing of slime and MCD ๐
Or slime and lastro lmao
I could see them go for myunbong but if they are smart they'd offer fat stacks to gnj
shanghai should be forced to give up 2 of their starting lineup players so that s5 wont be shanghai simulator again
I guess at least with MCD you get a sick Ana
jjonak nasty ana
mcd is good what are you on abt
way better upgrade over bebe
it was mcd that was being racist ?
That doesnโt fix the fact that heโs xenophobic???
that has nothing to do with what im talking about
im saying he would be an upgrade on the justice support line
Be like oh this guy is homophobic but we donโt have any lgbtq players so we should be good
???
mcd becomes extra xenophobic and gets banned so pre has to take over flex support
i mean he is an upgrade yes since hes a good support, but i doubt that theyll hire him again
He should t be a consideration at all because of what he has done
yea
Then why talk about him
he should be
Forget about him and move on
just that micheal said that picking up mcd would be a mid tier support
and im telling him that its wrong
china is largest market and you cant risk that
because i disagree that mcd would make a mid support line
id say hes one of the good tier supp
yea exactly
too bad he wasted it
You'd be suprised how many KR players have said the same things as MCD but haven't gotten punished because their not on chinese teams lol
but was it on stream to a chengdu player lol
was it because they werent speaking eng
Nah. Just haven't been exposed
ahh i see
Viol2t did I think
i thought its because ppl dont understand korean
But it was a while ago
Most people have probably said something that isn't publicly acceptable at a certain point
in owl
yea
yes
dont say it on stream dumb dumb
owl player so stuupid
all their brain cell go to playing game
yeah that is the bigger issue, if you said a slur in private like 3 years ago yeah it sucks but whatever but if you can't contain yourself on a platform with lots of viewers such as on stream
that is the bigger issue
not that I advocate it regardless but ya know
since I would be lying if I said that in my past I have never said something fucked up so holding others to that standard is unfair, just like don't do that shit on stream or at all if possible lmao
GodsB and qoq I hope get another chance in the league spark wasted them

I mean tbf shy is miles above godsb so it makes sense he wouldn't get play time this year and wanted to leave but he's not bad at all
Who are the mid hitscans tbh I can't think of a hitscan in the middle they're mostly either bad or good besides a few
I guess people like tarocookie
do you have any idea how little that makes sense?
Well they're either bottom of the barrel like Logix or top of the class like carpe there's like not a whole lot of middle hitscans
Dalton
you literally just said you can't think of any average hitscan and then finish your message off with "besides a few"
Nah he's bottom lmao
Nah top
Ratio
Hmm yeah that's fair
Also the comments of Jerry's Boston farewell video lolll
In my head Canon that single comment is why Washington signed Jerry ๐ค
Oh and im37
Eh tbh I put im37 below mid
Bqb
I'm going to cry
Nice bait

And yeah bqb is better than glister imo ๐
Only difference is glister has a better Sombra and tracer but bqb is better at everyone else imo
And I say that as someone who likes glister too I think bqb is just better on flick heroes
BQB has a lot of talent
BQB and Yaki was probably my favorite DPS lineup in 2021
https://twitter.com/JJoNakLove/status/1446657776109850628 this dude is good
maybe nyxl can sign him
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get ready for the wave of free agent signings coming on the 10th
He has the potential to be mid
la valiant isn't posting anything about letting go of their players and stuff

cuz theyre letting owl go
"Thank you, Los Angeles Valiant" post from OWL
ans in dallas fuel 
that wouldn't be too bad
more consistent than pine
and if anything they can just bench him if they have to
ans gone
How do i get to know the scene/players? Im kinda new to ow
read every single twitter post tagged with anyone remotely related to OWL
twitter, reddit, wechat, weibo, youtube, bilibili
youre late owl is dead
just carpe
ironic
OW collegiate is still going and its on OW1 @mortal abyss
- i got jebaited
And when will it be released just the players?
no idea
kek
Shut up charge simp
Stalk them irl
was this before orisa ball
?? Did he post it late or was this before jjonak left
this was 10 mins ago
Canโt get worse than jjonak
wait for the fa signings
https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1446845347595264002
bad news for titans fans
Unless something goes completely wild and Iโm not expecting it is going to. Vancouver fans have way too much invested into this oof season already https://t.co/kSL652FDrc
Wtf fearless isnโt going to titans?
they released the ow2 pro povs lets gooo
They released dalton tragically
The calm before the storm
The entire of Shanghai dropped
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Just saying now
If Boston cut Lori as coach they're throwing ๐
But justice could use him ๐
boston throwing wouldn't surprise me
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The goat is lft ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
did dalton even get a thank you post
not yet
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its the streamer boy oh my god!
Dallas rolling shock on dorado but shock rolled dallas on havana
Shock usually gets dominant wins on Havana or Fatal losses on Havana
Wtf
huh
No fucking way
there's just no fucking way that just happened
I want to cry
lmao
DAFAQ
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this shit dumb asf tbh
I mean losing fd and ta1yo is reasonable
and twilight probably wanted to leave
It's OK, viol2t just got ahold of the Twitter and is trolling us (or so I would like to think)
i get fdgod taiyo and nero
but why twilight ans and smurf man
man
nero was easily the most consistent shock player all season
neros likely not going to play anyways
choi super viol2t
so its understandable he left the team lol
I'm tired of breathing
Plz be a viol2t troll
Ans to Dallas would be insane tbh
i dont think this is a troll
GUYS GUYS ANS TO DALLAS ANS TO DALLAS
HOLY SHIT
ans better than pine anyways
I WANT TO SEE PINE PLAY THOUGH
if that's the case it's probably the biggest pickup this offseason imo
Pine isn't even signed to dallas anymore lol
What this is REAL?
shock????
seems like it
shock????
Pine is literally the reason I started playing overwatch, it's so sad that he didn't play.
i would fucking eat my shoes if pine played in playoffs
seems like shock is going with the lets just drop almost our entire team strategy
he was a month or something back with his team
super isn't gone rn
Super, Choi, violet remain for now
signings are allowed to start now right?
Today is the first day for signing
right?
tbh some of them will be added back to the roster
they are keeping the OG s2 shock tho
i believe
Super viol2t choi
smurf to glads best case scenario for me rn 
Ans to dallas
likely
The shock lost moth and lost the W
Glister and Smurf to glads
yeah I think so too
Imagine that
smurf to glads would be epic
And glister
who remain?
cause birdring gone
that would make glads so fucking good
yeahh
Who will sign BQB?
And gnj
shock mid team
My Florida mayhem boys
prob didnt fit XD
Glister carry to big
im laughing so fucking hard shock just released smurf and ans loooooooool
It was sorta obvious Smurf was gonna leave
wait is glister still on the team
I dont believe ans will go to another team
wait what
No
I believe hes going to get signed back to shock
wtf is going on
Yep epic disrespect
that might be why they forgot him. If they are planning on re-signing him
today is the day isnt it?
Shock will pull a Vancouver
i honestly just think he didnt fit on the picture
then make everybody smaller
dont leave one person out
thats just straight up wrong
smurf noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
glister smurf to glads and I'll fucking coom
pls owl gods
i dont think glistrr will be able to reach his potential under dpei sadly
i hope he goes to a team w cracked coaching
it's just Choi and Super left right?

yes
Violet
right
viol2t da goat
For some reason whatever the roster i don't think that shock will win next years Grand finals. It will a lot of time to build that synergy.
oh yeah and viol2t
Glister to shd gets benched all season and retires
if I were Super, I'd get signed as a cc
i hope glister fucks next season
I never thought I'd see the day where the Shock were left with three shock fam players
Ans came back and for what lmao
ans prob going back to valorant
iirc these are the three that were here since s1
Didnโt he have a fa post
ans said he was fa
nvm then
I mean he could go back to Valorant if he wanted to
if he doesn't like an ow offers
wonder what Crusty is thinking
Mmmmmm potato
what the fuck
Yup
Honestly all of them had fa posts before this
Super will have his own retirement post I bet
super and choi
We shouldnโt be that shocked
Keeping the feeder 
astro to justice
Jjonak to shock then
Canโt have support rotation problems if you have one support
Many na teams are full korean
Wdym
unless he goes to Dallas or Shock, I don't see him going NA
I think Jjonak on Chengdu or Spark would be nice tbh
the power of six shock players for one sick dps
the timing
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Has dink said anything
Dink in shambles
Just checked, he is me yesterday
smurf streaming rn 
according to moth beat takes 17 hours to build
i dont get how FDGod flopped so hard
statically, beat takes the longest
his brig was insane on paris
it just stacks per teammate
and his mercy was shit yeah but i thought crusty could fix that
smurf gotta fix his description
crusty can't fix everything
too soon man
https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1444875811023044608 also, this hits different now 
legend has it they all left after experiencing ow2
so weird they chose to upload the Jecse pov after he got dropped
What just happend to shockโฆ
they dropped everyone but Super, Choi and Viol2t
just gonna keep that copied cause more shock fans are gonna be asking that in the future
they wouldn't have done if they wanted to
Striker to Uprising then
Nah they might just be letting them explore options then come back
like the good old days
Shock cleared house, wow
Nero and Smurf i was expecting
Ans smurf should stay
goodbye~
I didn't expect to drop twilight
?
Have to assume Nero retired, and Twilight wanted playtime elsewhere
the end of the shock for good, letsgooooo
you didnt see the fa post
Free agent
super choi viol2t is still a good core
Twilight will defo get picked up again
I was expecting them to do smurf instead of super tho
super is a good mt, he's worth keeping over Smurf
Then the post came and twilight dropped
And go down the Asian route
make Choi learn ball
never misses
I feel like Choi is gonna get 0 game time in OW 2 with super being able to flex pretty well
Give me Smurf to LAG though, that's the move I want to see
Good replacement for muze
WHY ARE RALLY SHIELDS GREEN IN OW2

Smurf to glads
I hope not
smurf to mayhems 
myunbong to Toronto :)
Think they said they changed how overshield HP works to be a different colour. Space/Super mentioned it on PlatChat
I wonder who the shock will pick up as the replacements
Temporary shields and armor are replaced with overheal
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There goes my theory on Nero retiring
He says the opposite, fk coaching, carry on playing

Im gonna keep playing fk coaching
yeah your words lost us
Question is, are Shock going to spend big this year and go for Championship #3
no
FunnyAstro to Shock? He's in FA right now...
0
0 dps left
???? bruh?
I mean Striker is in the market ig
None
I'm surprised ANS is gone
@barren quest oh yeah I was looking through some old regular season vod reviews and found this, you might like it https://www.twitch.tv/spilo/clip/LaconicInexpensiveSoymilkWow-KFrCqz2cOVSv-AGL
I figured they'd keep him around
Two tanks and a healer
i was debating retiring but i got an opportunity i didnโt wanna pass up. you guys will see soon
nero to outluls?
ooh that would make sense
LA Valiant rebuild
Blase hitscan moment
I feel like LAG are gonna be shock 2.0
Feels like this off season just got wild
Smurf and Nero go there
be honest, who was he really aiming for?
That will be good motivation for SPACE.
Smurf/Nero/Moth/Kevster/Shu sounds a pretty good lineup to me
With Space/Skewed as backups
I honestly could see LAG using space as the starting tank
Since he can flex decently well
Attempted to dynamite the opposite high ground but aimed too high so it just hits the ceiling
still hoping to see a 'sike' kind of tweet from sfshock tomorrow and they'll re-sign the players again
totally not copium
Yeah but he hasnโt been released by Fusion and heโll probably go back because of his synergy with Alarm
If it were a bait they'd have put Super in
watching the Jecse pov for ow2 and saw him try to Stun super as ball ๐ญ
on brig
rip brig
did shock drop their entire roster or something?
yes
Agreed its most likely, but depends on what Philly's plans are next season and visa issues again maybe
Super, Choi and Viol2t are still in the team currently
@weak cypress
Smurf Choi and violet all by themselves like ๐ญ๐ญ
Super not Smurf kek
I can't even get my own brain around Smurf not on shock ๐ญ๐ญ
oh god
whats gonna happen?
teams are allowed to sign fa's
Still expecting a lot more farewell posts today too
I hope striker comes back to shock
a lot of them are posting...then there's ta1yo with the "unemployed" tweet lol
A reminder was all I need
All players unrenewed contracts are now sent to Free Agency
Nero โ> Houston?
Nero to LAG is more likely
Nero and Danteh have too similar hero pools imo
I donโt think so
lol
full rebuild, never again do they want to have a chinese org set up a chinese team
Unless someone totally new has bought out LAV, I don't see many people taking a chance joining them
Tbh Houstonโs on eof problem this season has been that danteh is the best tracer/sombra AND the best echo, so nero would fit perfectly
They've been a shitshow of an org for a few years, it'd be like joining Titans lol
smurf to houston makes a lot of sense to me
You can run Nero and danteh together for echo tracer and sombra tracer
0 people are interested
This basically
You could do, but its a lot of overlap for hoping on 1 or 2 meta
what does nero add
Wonder if Mayhem are building an NA superteam and that's Nero's target
Kevster HS nero projectile
kevster is better on every hero except mei
Their not
Mayhem are not going to be good next year
They aren't signing most of AT
Just a rumor
Only rumours i saw on Mayhem was ditching korean to go NA, and hoping to get AT. If the AT stuff isn't working out, there are a bunch of NA talent opening up
Or atleast NA/EU
Nothing besides double flex metas or something like mirror lmao
MuZe compliments super perfectly and can swap to a rlly good rein if needed
unlike smurf whos rein was eeeeeh
and i think yaki just wipes nero
It doesn't make sense to have 3 tank players for OW 2
checked liquipedia and this feels like it's photoshopped 
Honestly
FS market this year is weird. Twilight, Gangnamjim, Myunbong, Jjonak all on the market
o_o
why
Lastro for Vancouver ๐ค๐
Lastro/Kariv also in the FS market
Kariv 
Kariv
Lol
Washed
Playah
Kr roolf
Tbh
Provide better LA valiant FS than Kariv
Meanwhile main support is Jecse, Slime, Joobi, FDgod, Closer, Tobi
Tobi ๐ญ
You left out the free agent flex support goats mcd and bebe sheesh ๐ค๐

i wonder how fast fleta and lip would get offers if they went fa
I suspect we're in for quite a few more goodbye posts today. I think there is going to be quite a few more player shuffles about
Joobi best one no cap
if they went fa i think shd would be the best team for them since they already have some synergy and they would be missing a fdps and hitscan
Literally 3
thats like better than 50% of teams yk
a lot of teams have 1-2 players
which ones, london and what other teams
defiant,mayhem,nyxl
Sfs now
XL only dropped 2 people no?
NYXL only has Flora rn
oh ye, forgot
don't think so
Maybe because ow2, but that would only really be tanks.
Nah, but with OW2 and a lot of players retiring teams are inclined to drop more players then they usually would
no but this is the biggest change since no one actual knows what will be good in OW2
But why drop jjonak? Or ans? Theyโre great players who helped carry the teams. Jjonak was the best player for the nyxl
dalton so far
rumor is they are dropping almost everyone
ok
Knowing titans they'll drop everyone without a goodbye post, but tweet about some pizza deals
truth
Tfw you wake up to shock getting wiped out
shock tho
daytime dorado and nightime havana what is this the wear ur pants inside out day

