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trail perch
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Ummmm

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Spectra

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Innovation

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Mykaylee

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theres more

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im just dumb

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October02nd

somber latch
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No1. i meant people in owl
No2. i have no clue whats going on in tier 2
No3. i also dont know very much of owl so i may be wrong

trail perch
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apr1ta

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also in owl

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Eqo

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rascal

somber latch
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eqo is lft?

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so is rascal?

trail perch
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Eqo is

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rascal also prob

somber latch
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oh

trail perch
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Ttuba is also lft and he can be developed into smth good

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Mirror

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fdps is in a renaissance

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Teru also

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AlphaYi

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Finale

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Stellar

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then also retired ppl

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Haksal

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Ivy

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With enough cash and offers they can def leave retirement

somber latch
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i see

willow tartan
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jfeel to seoul maybe?

trail perch
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Is Xzi N25?

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oR is N25 Nos?

next mesa
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Haksal is pro in league

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N2S is Nos

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Dumdum

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Twitter post he said

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300 ping impossible

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Oh no

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Moon the new crusty

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Breeding hcs

somber latch
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whats hcs?

tropic herald
willow tartan
somber latch
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HOOOOOOOOHOOOO BABYY

willow tartan
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literally lied to

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fleta said he wanted to be good at OW2 together :(

somber latch
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but are they gonna pursue other options

willow tartan
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🙏 please be poor league

tacit skiff
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Kraft's money

willow tartan
worldly flax
tropic herald
willow tartan
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oh thank god

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that other post baited me

balmy wolf
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I think they drop Molly. Legit no reason to ever use any other supports.

willow tartan
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double flex support meta?

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then molly come in

balmy wolf
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I don't even know what whoru plays, so I can't say anything, but I'm assuming he's better then Lip and Fleta on hitscan

willow tartan
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whoru is flex dps

balmy wolf
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But LJG can play Bap

willow tartan
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in case of double fdps meta

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like

balmy wolf
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I wonder if LJG can play Ana as well

willow tartan
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whoru play genji

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maybe meta is genji tracer or smthn

tropic herald
balmy wolf
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Genji tracer over Sombra Tracer?

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Why would you ever sub out Lip? Since lately Fleta been Tracer

willow tartan
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i said

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just in case

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if that is meta

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like if genji gets super buffed again like in summer showdown 2020

balmy wolf
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Meh. They said they were tweaking Sombra

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Because Sombra got a ton of complaints

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3 second stealth hack

willow tartan
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like its always better to have more players

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you never know what happens

balmy wolf
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+50% damage increase or something

balmy wolf
willow tartan
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imagine running a football team without substitutes

balmy wolf
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Bad conditioning

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I played football. I played all 4 quarters

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Offense and defense

willow tartan
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quarters?

balmy wolf
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But I did play both halves in football/soccer

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Same with 4 quarters in basketball

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I did get sub'd when I played volleyball and baseball though

balmy wolf
willow tartan
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idk man all im saying is that you always want substitutes

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thats why the league minimum is at least 1 sub

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you dont want a pelican situation yk?

earnest leaf
balmy wolf
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I don't see why they wouldn't

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You don't let key pieces leave if you can help it

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Space is probably gonna re-sign too, if he's at the end of the contract.

tawdry hamlet
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Curious

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Do you guys think leakers are allowed to announce or that it's the players own right

willow tartan
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i think it doesnt matter and its not significant.

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leakers exist cause there are leaks

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there's no good or bad in leaking retirements

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well the good is telling their communities earlier ig

earnest leaf
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Well nothing is stopping leakers from announcing it

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But for things like retirements I would rather the players get to tell everyone first

plush grail
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even if halo didn't report it some other guy would gladly leak it

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i'm pretty sure the same happened with paris last year

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halo didn't wanna leak out of respect for avalla

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some guy comes along and leaks it anyways

vagrant cargo
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yeah

vagrant cargo
keen abyss
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updating the OWL team tier list tomorrow

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ratlanta had competition

balmy wolf
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whats wrong with atlanta??

north relic
balmy wolf
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as he should

north relic
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(Also I’m 90% sure he is a glads fan)

willow tartan
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yes supa is a nerd

next mesa
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LETS GOOOO

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CHANGGOON

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BYE BYE BITCH

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Wtf release gwangboong

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Hm

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Oh no Florida might not get all

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Plz man

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Just get everything

next mesa
plush grail
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@next mesawhere u getting this info from

noble nexus
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He can see the future

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Duh

raw ermine
willow tartan
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Shanghai going for round 2

next mesa
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Who else is there LMAO

plush grail
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idk

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be nice

next mesa
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MY BAD

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Shanghai re sign the whole team

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Test

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Sus

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Hm

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Okay good

willow tartan
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yes

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Except develop.

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Develop out in the wild to look for a team because he doesn't wanna spend his whole OWL career on the bench.

vagrant cargo
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develop rlly got stripped off his roty potential

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for one map

willow tartan
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It's a rite of passage.

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LIP got his yoinked too sunglassesvery3dcool

north relic
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Bye bye shockwave

willow tartan
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c0ckwave gone PepeHands

north relic
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<@&397922982632226816>

willow tartan
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They always post in OWD, OWSD, ED

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Never workshop

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Who the fuck is Ryan?

north relic
raw ermine
north relic
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Shockwave to Houston

trim shadow
north relic
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Maybe glads if birdring retires

trim shadow
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i fuckin forgot whoru is technically on shanghai so he won a championship

north relic
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Is eqo fa

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Put it in the resume

next mesa
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Oh shittt

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Also Ryan shockwave is hitscan

willow tartan
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Is Ryan someone who changed their name and profile picture?
I don't recognize them.

tacit skiff
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Shockwave :(

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prediction that he'll go to Gladiators

tawdry hamlet
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shockwave plays echo and hanzo boom he a flex lilsheesh

raw ermine
raw ermine
north relic
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So rascal carpe is left?

fallen turret
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Tobi hotba

mortal abyss
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Shockwave was sick at ashe when he could play her at the right moments

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But alas

weak bolt
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Shockwave to Paris makes the most sense really, now Onigod has gone

next mesa
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MIRO

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COACH SEOUL

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LESS GOO

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EVERYONE TO SEOUL

weak bolt
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Miro coach, Jjonak/Whooyal/Gesture/Profit all to Seoul, then bring back Jehong and Haksal

north relic
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Fits wasn’t intended

raw ermine
north relic
weak bolt
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Coaching changes this season are going to be just mad. So many assistant coaches trying to become head coaches

north relic
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What’s the actual difference

weak bolt
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One gets the blame for stuff when it goes wrong, the other doesnt

fallen turret
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It’s annoying how some teams have their players completely figured out (Dallas, Shanghai, Paris) but then some teams are silent ( valiant, London, Seoul, we haven’t even heard from the players yet)

weak bolt
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You'll know whats going on soon enough, there is a date they have to hit and OWL will then publish all the details

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https://twitter.com/Spex_J/status/1443666040110649350

Jon Spector (@Spex_J)

[2/2]

  • Free agency opens October 10th, and any player becoming a free agent will know at least a week in advance and can plan accordingly

  • We plan to publish a roster status update after free agency begins as a definitive source of which players are signed vs. free agents

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hot onyx
raw ermine
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oof gg fusions

balmy wolf
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Fusions finally retired

tropic herald
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itsal finale in owl PauseChamp

north relic
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Boston rebuild

balmy wolf
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they dropped im37 woooohoooo

north relic
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So valentine faith and punk are left?

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Gsb as well actually

balmy wolf
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kept faith and valentine good fucking job

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good core imo

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@devout path thats a W

north relic
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They probably are going to drop a off tank

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Either punk or gsb

tropic herald
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gbs valentine punk faith myunbong

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they probably just gonna promo some ua peeps

zealous venture
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https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1445413797754294273?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1445413797754294273|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fq1z2rj%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse

Boston Uprising (@BostonUprising)

Today we say goodbye to @Colourhex217, @OMyunbong, @im37_ow, and @Stand1. Thank you for all of your hard work on the Uprising. We wish you all good luck in your future endeavors.

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why doesnt this even surprise me

north relic
balmy wolf
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Boston looking good next season

north relic
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Dropped*

zealous venture
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surprised they didnt release faith

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i actually liked myunbong

balmy wolf
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faith is great

zealous venture
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i mean yeah

balmy wolf
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bostons best player

balmy wolf
zealous venture
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but myunbong is better imo

balmy wolf
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no

north relic
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Myunbong reunites with jerry

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In justice

zealous venture
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bostons best player (statistically) was stand1 but to me it was either punk or any of the supports

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cant wait for boston to sign all SF Shock FA's

sullen berry
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Fun fact, and one that has been itched this morning

raw ermine
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...

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kai to boston

digital cloud
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probably kidding but

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well, if atlanta grab proper they could somewhat afford to lose kai

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though imo they ought to keep him for a rainy day

balmy wolf
next mesa
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#BurnBlue LMAO

devout path
balmy wolf
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u wish

devout path
devout path
balmy wolf
sullen berry
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Already forwarded onto modmail

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Just realized @raw ermine is awoke

raw ermine
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twitter is always open for me

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:)

sullen berry
raw ermine
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oh no

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ans kai

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gg

sullen berry
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Some guy on Twitter: Where onigod
Onigod: my ass

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north relic
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Onigod back to Paris

sullen berry
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Scientists are still formulating a response to that one

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Guangzhou "back dat ass" Charge

zealous venture
sullen berry
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The shock one wasn't so much as a joke but a really good combo

tawdry hamlet
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Mfw Logix is lft after getting Dalton diffed in the one map he played cooldude

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Vancouver time

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Also myunbong free agent 😳

sullen berry
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Vancouver's strongest year to come since their inaugural 2019 season

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2022 they formulate a way to bring back Seominsoo TiZi slime and twilight

gusty rampart
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Boston dropping their whole roster lol

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And Striker coming back

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Good days

sullen berry
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Are they really going to leave EQO though - if they did it could be difficult returning home when it's time to renew his visa and exit Korea

mortal abyss
north relic
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Kalios gwb would have been good but its fine

balmy wolf
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Kalios

sullen berry
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All that's left is to bring back saebyeolbe nenne and pine together

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Best opportunity for a comeback

raw ermine
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https://twitter.com/NYXL/status/1445432701004259330

NYXL (@NYXL)

Today, we wish @Friday_OW all the best as he retires from professional esports. Friday has been a great teammate and we're grateful for all he has done. We thank him for the time and dedication he has put in this past season.

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north relic
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o7

tropic herald
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Building year but they kept 2 players

sullen berry
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No more Happy Friday

idle marten
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glads winning it all next year

north relic
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Also they built reason to fire coaches

tropic herald
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I think gwb is not right for ny when you have Flora

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But dropping kalios ???

north relic
tropic herald
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Yeah but realistically when do you take Flora out

north relic
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You don’t take flora out you replace the other dps most likely

gusty rampart
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RIP Kalios, Gawngboong, and Feath5r tho

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The rest can leave

north relic
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It’s just for double sniper im thinking

gusty rampart
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GWB was cracked at hitscan but had a small hero pool

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Which isn't great

north relic
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Sounds like ans

gusty rampart
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ANS has been learning Sombra and Tracer

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GWB is Ashe, Widow, and Cree

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Ans has a bigger pool

north relic
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Gwb played sombra

gusty rampart
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Who didn't lol?

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Feath5r did as well

tacit skiff
north relic
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Embed failure

tacit skiff
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idc

gusty rampart
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Embed fail

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Laugh at that user

tacit skiff
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Stand1 gone no big deal anyway

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he either quits or goes to Vancouver

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so

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worse news

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scrolled down on the Twitter feed

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I think I'm gonna have to put down the MyunbongSzn Twitter account

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why did Boston literally get rid of everyone except the one person I wanted them to

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we're fucked

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we're so unbelievably fucked

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we're gonna get #20 again

hot onyx
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FRIDAY NO

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tacit skiff
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WE LOST HIM

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MYUNBONG NOOOOOOOO

north relic
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Myunbong overrated

misty stream
tropic herald
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@misty stream u in the wrong channel

tacit skiff
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Uprising Academy better have our backs

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thank god Valentine is still around

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please don't get traded please don't get traded please don't get traded please don't get traded please don't get traded

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so that means Boston only has Valentine, Punk and Faith left

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What happened to our restructuring @-@

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focus around Myunbong they said, it'll be easy they said

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｡:ﾟ(;´∩`;)ﾟ:｡

worn falcon
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Rip my hero

hot onyx
worn falcon
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sadge

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no more OW

worn falcon
tacit skiff
worn falcon
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also no cockwave

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sad

tacit skiff
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Faith is a hella lackluster brig

hot onyx
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Faith >

worn falcon
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man, so many news

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i went to cooking then mass release happens

hot onyx
worn falcon
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which team gonna hire im37 again?

hot onyx
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I would say Valiant but honestly

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Krystal > IM37

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Skillwise

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I will be accepting multiple harassment cases from the Boston Uprising Fanclub

devout path
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Also develop to Boston maybe

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Or shockwave

north relic
tawdry hamlet
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so jjonak stayed heh

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either that or his post will be super long because he is such a big part of that team

trail perch
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Gwangboong???

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Why dropped???

tacit skiff
tacit skiff
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also I've only ever seen gbs play Zarya, and then get immediately benched so

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not confident in them

devout path
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Gwangboong was good

velvet hawk
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Anyone remember SHaryk?

tacit skiff
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who

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Fusions been playing competitive overwatch for 5 years Jesus

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no wonder he retired due to mental health

north relic
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Who were strikers teammates

raw ermine
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gg

north relic
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gg

devout path
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I wonder if Gbs is better than kalios

sullen berry
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at off tank?

north relic
sullen berry
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Gwangboong more like

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Gwang boomed by NYXL rebuild season

devout path
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Why is nyxl even rebuilding I feel like they had great players

tacit skiff
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what happened to all these teams taking like multiple seasons to rebuild just dropping 90% of their rosters???

devout path
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Dumb decision tbh

tacit skiff
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like? Boston??? New York??? hello???

devout path
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Dps line was great backline was pretty good and tank line was ok

tacit skiff
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Vancouver is about to drop their entire roster too

devout path
tacit skiff
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that's what I'm saying

devout path
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Colourhex and fusions prolly also had to go

tacit skiff
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They were both long past their prime anyway

devout path
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Season 2 fusions sadge

tacit skiff
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Getting genji diffed did a number on chex

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never recovered

devout path
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Super man

tacit skiff
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if he does get signed, he'll end up on Vancouver

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I don't think another team will take him

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with his recors

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recors

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record

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jesus

devout path
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I think chex is an upgrade over blase

tacit skiff
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over blase? eh

devout path
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What does chex even play primarily

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Fdps right

tacit skiff
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he queues ashe widow on streams, primarily solider in owl

devout path
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So hitscan?

tacit skiff
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basically

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but he he's only touched soldier

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would've loved to see an Ashe 1v1 between Chex and Shockwave

devout path
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Lol

tacit skiff
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I'm glad Valentine is staying

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he really is the best member of the team now

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now that

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sniffle

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myunbong has left us

devout path
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Valentine was better than myunbong

tacit skiff
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nobody is better than myunbong on that roster of nobodies

devout path
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Valentine literally was

sullen berry
north relic
devout path
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And I would probably argue punk was too

tacit skiff
sullen berry
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Punk will be capable of going to another team

tacit skiff
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as the owner of the myunbongszn acc on Twitter, I am very sad today

devout path
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Punk was actually really good

tacit skiff
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Punk improved a lot this season ngl

sullen berry
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Colourhex will probably hang out with whoever joins the uprising as a mentor and not a paid actor

devout path
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Chex isn’t on the team

tacit skiff
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he got dropped

sullen berry
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he's practically married to Boston's social media girl

tacit skiff
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Man's literally LFT

devout path
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They dropped everyone except faith valentine punk and gbs

tacit skiff
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I'm so confused on why they dropped myunbong over faith

sullen berry
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evidently, her gf is from the Boston house and she may very well have to split

devout path
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Plus faith is a new player

sullen berry
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2 year contracts, folks

tacit skiff
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but still, talent like that? Kraft can afford it

devout path
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More room for growth

tacit skiff
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Uprising predicting the future and seeing Ana will be useless in ow2

sullen berry
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it's like every team Stand1 has joined he reaches a limit and has to be signed off to another team

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like Envy

tacit skiff
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wasn't Stand1 a starter for Shanghai at one point, what happened to him

sullen berry
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Valiant to Toronto to Shanghai iirc

devout path
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Stand1 played ball over fearless too

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I think

tacit skiff
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sounds like something fearless should look into

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I remember seeing Stand1 in the match SD got knocked out of last year

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played ball on busan

devout path
tacit skiff
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best Rein? I'm way more impressed by his monkey than his rush abilities

devout path
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I said one of the best reins

tacit skiff
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when it comes down to it, I really don't think you can beat Atlanta in a rush mirror

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it's their comp

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sucks it's the only comp they know

devout path
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Brawl mirror but yes

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They are the best brawl team

tacit skiff
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seeing Fate pick Reinhardt in gf made me choke

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I don't think I've ever seen Shanghai play Reinhardt this season apart from that

devout path
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They haven’t

tacit skiff
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which is weird to me

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Watching NA get filled by rush comps and APAC filled with ball dva dive
it's like watching two different games

raw ermine
tacit skiff
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no bombs here?

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no news on Florida :(

twin bloom
next mesa
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chad move

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how is SMC going to map 5 against falcons

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fell off

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shut up bitch

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@old spade

zealous venture
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awwww yeaaahhhhh

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time for the best eu contenders team

next mesa
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indeed

zealous venture
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the mascot is actually cute now

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chibi kool aid boy

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oh wait

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NYXL released everyone except jjonak?

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and flora?

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huh, neat.

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anyways aww yeah have the best genji in eu contenders and the funniest support names

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coolboy183 and hotbabe35

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this is so fucking stupid its so fun

worn falcon
next mesa
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noo necros

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NOOO BOBBBB

zealous venture
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lol

next mesa
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this is peak overwatch

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yeah but he is free agent

zealous venture
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yea

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but hes not RELEASED

zealous venture
next mesa
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idk what u were arguing yeah i know he's not released

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BRO HE WIFFED ON THE BAP

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SADGE

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oh my gosh

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wtf

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how many times did ken kill hybrid

next mesa
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sadge

tropic herald
next mesa
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wow minimum 4.4k

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damn if it was 2.4k 😔 ✊

gusty rampart
next mesa
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LESS GOO

worn falcon
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lol

north relic
tawdry hamlet
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So with fusion letting poko and Fastro lft and dropping eqo and shockwave it's safe to say they're going Korean again I think

next mesa
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yoooo

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lowkey good

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well not letting go of fastro

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but there's a lot of good talent rn

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IF they could get them

tawdry hamlet
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It could be good if they get new apac players and don't go Korean with hotba Tobi 💀

next mesa
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yeah I cant seem them sticking w tobi gotta be one of vindaim chorong

tawdry hamlet
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Super rich why didn't he make owl I forget

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Isn't he like hiaxqiyan now or something

next mesa
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haoyoqian

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which is just "so rich" in chinese

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lol

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I think he didnt like hunters coach

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He was offered im pretty sure

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if nohill gets signed

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i think he gets signed too

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he's been doing well but team cc kinda fell

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off

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good talent on paper though

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it would be awesome if he did get signed

tawdry hamlet
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Be cool if woohyal somehow gets back in the league lmao

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Returning champion 🙏

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also I can see why they fell off considering they lost like everyone who made them great besides innovation and superich

worn falcon
tawdry hamlet
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eqo said as of the 9th he is a free agent

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on da twitter

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also why does aimgod go by jeff

next mesa
tawdry hamlet
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I mean if you are running aimgod as an upgrade for flex support something has clearly gone wrong

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considering the talent in that region lmaoo

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I mean like, seeing old owl players and such stick around in contenders is always cool just sucks when they are holding their teams back but you don't want to let go of them because haha famous name LETSFUCKINGGOOOO

north relic
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iirc aimgod has the lowest sens of any owl player right

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man has to jerk off to do a 180

next mesa
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I mean

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aimgod isnt playing

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Half is

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feel like aimgod could do good tho

trail perch
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AimGod is doing great whenever he plays tho

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He's not holding his team back

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their tanks are ass

willow tartan
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decod is not having a good day

tawdry hamlet
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considering redbirds swept uprising academy last month I don't see them losing much this month lmao

willow tartan
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nah, xzi comes out on map 3 and reverse sweeps redbirds

tawdry hamlet
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also it is silly that the second an na contenders team signs all koreans they go from bottom to top Hmm the korean buff too strong!

willow tartan
#

300 ping widowmaker

willow tartan
tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
#

they're just smurfing

tawdry hamlet
#

that was funny bro one of the teams ran a junk otp social media manager in their lineup because it literally didn't matter lmao

#

was tragic

#

I didn't realize fishcake retired :((

#

now renko all alone :((

tropic herald
tawdry hamlet
#

yes

#

I miss the australian tank line meme tho

tropic herald
#

Sad about stellar doe

#

Basically a tracer otp

tawdry hamlet
#

like that flash in the pan that was sigma

#

mysterious

#

he came in, tracer gapped na contenders on ping and then retired like that

tiny pollen
#

sigma male

willow tartan
#

maybe it was a fake person

#

play under a psudonym

haughty crag
#

excel and uprising deadass just released everybody lmao

willow tartan
#

block an earth shatter challenge (not easy)

next mesa
#

Education gang

trim shadow
#

shanghai going through the new england patriots effect

#

win a championship coaches go out to be head coaches and probably be mid

tawdry hamlet
#

I feel like even touching shanghai even if you never play or have the most miniscule role can get you a spot somewhere else

#

then again dding and luffy disappeared

#

so maybe not

trim shadow
#

which i have the feeling whoever does leave shanghai will auto start wherever they go

#

the counterweight is the org if they wanna release players

tawdry hamlet
#

yeah like no disrespect to stand1 but no way he lands a team without having been on shanghai lmao

#

and pretty sure all of shanghai returning

#

everyone that had the ability did player option iirc

#

and others still under contract

trim shadow
#

they had a very dominant season So there stocks are probably through the roof just like after shocks 2peat when gladiators probably shoveled out a truck load of money for moth

#

just…to bench him for skewed

#

#dpei

tawdry hamlet
#

well brig was relevant a lot more than mercy or lucio this year so it makes sense considering skewed is like one of if not the best brig in the world

trim shadow
#

but thats still hillarious to see a 2 time championship get benched which kudos to skewed for out scrimming moth

#

championship caliber probably top 5 main support

north relic
trim shadow
north relic
#

i would argue moth was the best ms coming out of s3

tropic herald
#

bastion sym

supple prism
#

player drops so far are still rather even across the roles.

digital cloud
#

makes sense, the real question is whether or not less tanks ultimately will be picked up due to the change

supple prism
#

also, no pickups at all yet

digital cloud
#

my bet is that it will be less than the dps and the supports but not sure how much

north relic
#

the math term not the stupid thing people say

supple prism
#

15-18-16

#

which feels like large numbers for so early

north relic
#

are there any teams who havent been touched yet?

supple prism
#

i think 12 teams have dropped players so far with like 3 teams dropping nearly everyone

#

also Spark dropped half of their large team.

digital cloud
#

I don't think atlanta has had anyone definitely changed

north relic
#

ig FA doesnt count

supple prism
#

are we counting coaches?

digital cloud
#

the 12 and 3 would be overlapping the way he said it

#

eh, I wasn't, but

#

though not sure that was his intention

supple prism
#

because 10 coaches have been dropped

north relic
digital cloud
#

I mainly care about players personally

#

only coaches I really care about are the shanghai and shock ones

#

and I guess houston but

north relic
#

dallas reign for me as well

supple prism
#

Reign, Spitfire, Valiant, Shock, Dynasty, Titans havent dropped players yet.

#

so 6

digital cloud
#

I was about to say, I could have sworn that dragons had lol

#

and I am pretty sure Titans did too

supple prism
#

they dropped develop, i dont think dragons ever played him

#

I dont see anything about Titans since Grand Finals

digital cloud
#

oh man I am stupid, I was thinking shockwave was still on titans lol

#

he was dropped from philly not the titans

willow tartan
tropic herald
#

this dps line of ua kinda slaps

supple prism
#

oh

north relic
supple prism
#

not yet

#

also, isnt striker LFT now?

tropic herald
#

yes

digital cloud
#

with how valiant did I expect to watch them execute their team on live tv at some point

supple prism
#

I thought there was rules on retiring early and then LFT

tropic herald
#

what would the rules be

#

if there was

#

its off season

supple prism
#

oh, maybe it was for during the season

willow tartan
#

Striker "retired" to dodge his multi-year shock contract conspiracy

supple prism
#

some shit about preventing retiring early to get out of a contract just to be able to look for a new team

willow tartan
#

striker to Dallas would be pretty cool

supple prism
#

i should just make a Google Sheets for this

north relic
willow tartan
#

a tracer player and a hitscan yes

tiny pollen
#

ans to dallas kek

willow tartan
#

no

north relic
#

lip to dallas guys that will help them

supple prism
#

also, I find it amazing that Nickelodeon copied Super Smash Bros

tiny pollen
#

i mean ans is what dallas needs

#

a hitscan specialist

#

but stil

#

ans off shock would be sad

willow tartan
#

striker is more valuable than ans

#

and ans also won't leave shock I bet

#

Only reason he came back was for shock anyways right?

tiny pollen
#

idk

next mesa
#

Could Striker be that championship caliber hard hitscan that they need doe

#

idk

tropic herald
#

saints are cursed

trim shadow
#

wp

#

welp

#

someone said gwangbong wasnt going

#

anddd hes gone

#

my problem is why did new york waste bianca’s potential

next mesa
#

what potential

sullen berry
#

bianca

trim shadow
#

i believed in bianca? monka

sullen berry
#

nah, he didn't look the same without his former teammates

trim shadow
#

he was pretty decent coming out of contenders

trim shadow
sullen berry
#

JJonak was learning how to bap all season

#

If I'm not mistaken the coaching didn't change between last year and this one

willow tartan
sullen berry
#

😡

trim shadow
next mesa
#

they just switched roles

wispy glacier
#

anyone else having troubles with the contenders mei skin?

#

I havent missed a stream and I have got the winston one but not the mei one

balmy wolf
#

Theres so much happening in terms of retirement and LFT's

#

I wonder what cool teams will be built this season

#

nero's twitter bio only has his discord in it now

tawdry hamlet
balmy wolf
#

he has not posted anything yet of course but he has nothing shock related in his bio anymore

tawdry hamlet
#

Does anyone else have an addiction to making fantasy rosters in their head

#

It's so much fun catpog

gusty rampart
#

Ye

#

The one I think about most is

#

Super, Space, Yaki, ANS, Moth, JJoNaK

next mesa
#

make a fantasy roster than can beat dragons + fearless without using those players

frank torrent
#

So who's snapping up Jecse? Even the supposed weakest link of Fuel's starting lineup (I personally think Doha is more inconsistent but eh) could be an impressive addition to any team in NA right now, especially with the systemic support problems we saw in even playoff teams

#

I think NYXL is looking for as many falling pieces as they can to finally give their golden boy a core he can shine with

#

Bianca getting let go is a shock tho, he had some alright moments

next mesa
#

why is it a shock

#

kalios was a very apparent upgrade

#

like it was so noticeable

frank torrent
#

I at least thought he would be moved to second string and specialized, considering XL's roster is more shallow than other APAC teams

#

They might just be planning to make waves and cast a wide net of whatever new things they can try

next mesa
#

yeah but if you were to keep one off tank it would be kalios

#

and i agree with their decision to revamp

#

flora was a good piece

frank torrent
#

Well they obviously needed something new, but Bianca and Flora seemed like they still had a lot higher to climb before hitting their plateau

#

On a side note ClrHex finally got crept, sadge

next mesa
#

Idk, bianca was also in the league last season and looked mid

#

if there was another ot that they could go for like attack, cade or i forgot who's o2blast

trim shadow
#

hol up boston dropped motherfuckin myunbong?

next mesa
#

mainly also yakpung just isnt that good

#

so its easier to just revamp the whole tank line

frank torrent
next mesa
#

since u wanna keep 2

frank torrent
#

tf yo

trim shadow
#

what the fuck is this off season

#

its a long ass off season and they are already making big moves

frank torrent
#

Who's the big names to scoop from Contenders right now?

next mesa
#

korean region?

#

which role

trim shadow
#

i think 37 wouldve returned to form in the new comp and myunbong is underrated KV95_codm_pepethinking

#

so somehow coldest Myunbong Bianca jecse are all up for grabs

frank torrent
#

There's so many pieces floating around in the aether right now begging to be put together into a monstrosity of a lineup

#

If Justice grabs Jecse we are officially in oh shit mode

trim shadow
#

oh fuck right aztac is free to

balmy wolf
#

Ansoonjae

trim shadow
#

aspire to

balmy wolf
#

aspire better get signed

trim shadow
#

gargoyle and slime

balmy wolf
#

Yaki is going to traded?

#

or are fl keeping him?

frank torrent
#

def

#

Yaki is worth two floaters rn

balmy wolf
#

true

#

where would bqb go

frank torrent
#

Classic draft strat of trading someone early in offseason after letting go of a bunch of others for multiple second-strings from a very strong team

balmy wolf
#

true

tawdry hamlet
#

Myunbong is great and all but idk if he's what he was in s3

frank torrent
#

It's how the Knicks haven't gone bankrupt yet

balmy wolf
#

yeah myunbong has been good in my eyes

#

he just had a tough time because of what boston was dealing with

#

they were inconsistent

tawdry hamlet
#

The Knicks are also in the biggest city in America and one of the biggest in the world even if they suck they still make enough money easily

#

And they always suck

balmy wolf
#

what do you guys all think will happen to smurf

next mesa
#

aspire's gonna get signed

#

anyone that's building a western roster would want aspire

#

retire or back to shock

tawdry hamlet
#

Iced should be signed 🙏

trim shadow
#

so houston aspire UY99_codm_kek

earnest leaf
#

I'm still hoping striker goes back to shock

balmy wolf
#

a lot of contenders talent coming this year

frank torrent
#

Very surprised to not have seen anything from either of the 1-15 NA teams yet

balmy wolf
#

a lot of people are

tawdry hamlet
#

There are other players who are better than aspire in na contenders and we saw what he did in owl so I'm excited for them

balmy wolf
#

I wouldn't be surprised if striker went to a APAC team

next mesa
#

imo only Hydron

#

Maybe

tawdry hamlet
#

Striker rascal reunion 👀

#

Philly here we come

next mesa
#

idk if this is a hot take but

balmy wolf
#

thats what I thought about

next mesa
#

Iced and that whole revival team

#

got kinda overrated because they beat AT very close in a hard rush meta when lhcloudy was leading the way on how to play it

#

afterwards they just fell off

#

imo

tawdry hamlet
#

Odyssey when they go from second place every month almost to 5/6 unsigned

balmy wolf
#

who from NA is up for OWL this year?

tawdry hamlet
#

Sadge

balmy wolf
#

like of age and LFT

next mesa
#

Reiner, UV, Hydron hopefully will stay together

#

and then ideally Ojee, Aspire, Coluge/False

#

they need a proj too

tawdry hamlet
#

If Reiner doesn't get in that's actually fucked dude has a pristine liquidpedia page lmaoo

next mesa
#

idk if like s9mm is 18 or anything

balmy wolf
#

Did hydron barely become 18?

next mesa
#

yes

#

I think so

#

either way

balmy wolf
#

Petal is not of age yet right?

tawdry hamlet
#

Iced is really good 🙏 so is NOS

#

Petal isn't good enough imo

next mesa
#

I think uv's birthday will be 18 in april

tawdry hamlet
next mesa
#

u dont need another hitscan when u have hydron

balmy wolf
#

yeah I dont either

next mesa
#

and aspire

balmy wolf
#

petal can be very hot then cold

tawdry hamlet
#

Chopper is underrated 👀

#

Nobody talks about him anymore

balmy wolf
#

a lot of Korean contenders talent being shouted out by pros

#

and people got there eyes on 2 people in specific

next mesa
#

Proper

#

and who

#

Aprita

#

yeah

#

well he's not korean

tawdry hamlet
#

Aprita proper seawave pineapple innovation 800 someone itsal stellar apac has many a talent coming

balmy wolf
#

proper is all I can remember I think the other was Korean tank player

#

but after mag I am worried

next mesa
#

Mag was good though

#

Kellan?

next mesa
balmy wolf
#

I felt he was very inconsistent but I think it was the coaching mainly

next mesa
#

Kellan overSomeone and Itsal doe

#

Seawave has been carrying UP that's for sure

#

too bad there's limited spots for chinese contenders

balmy wolf
#

when is the signing window open?

tawdry hamlet
#

Clestyn hehe

twin bloom
next mesa
#

oh wait that was seeker

#

mb

sullen berry
#

Tobi wan kenobi

next mesa
#

man

#

I hope he finds a team

#

id take him over anamo anyday of the weak

willow tartan
#

yes he needs a championship under his belt

#

only thing missing from his trophy cabinet

gusty rampart
#

Rip Tobi

#

Hopefully an actual good team picks him up and doesn't perma bench him

#

Ngl I don't think Moth will stay Glads if he's gonna get perma benched

tawdry hamlet
#

Tobiii

#

Time to bring out the classic

tiny pollen
#

wonder if shock will keep fd

gusty rampart
#

Nahhhh

#

I don't think FD is happy on Shock

#

I really hope he goes back to Paris so he can stay home

#

I want the best for that man

earnest leaf
#

I wonder if he was signed for one year or two

#

since he hasn't put out a LFT like smurf/ans

tawdry hamlet
gusty rampart
#

I don't really think Shock signing 2 Flex supports and 1 Main Support was a good idea

earnest leaf
#

Nah it was fine

gusty rampart
#

Yeah FD can play Mercy and Brig but Lucio is his specialty

earnest leaf
#

they just fucked it up

#

Like they did it last year with moth

#

because they had a set support rotation

tiny pollen
#

i dont think having violet play literally every support was a good idea

earnest leaf
#

but this year they fucked around until playoffs with who played

gusty rampart
#

Playing FD Viol2t was literally a good choice and they didn't do it

#

I get not doing it for CC

tiny pollen
#

they had to keep violet in cause he apparently is the comms person

gusty rampart
#

Viol2t is too good not to play

tiny pollen
#

agreed

#

he played only 3% zen this year lol

#

iirc

gusty rampart
#

Viol2t's only problem was trolling too much for the first 2 stages

earnest leaf
#

I think viol2t will do well in ow2

gusty rampart
#

They could've easily made Melee

earnest leaf
#

Since it seems being more aggro is good in ow2

#

and viol2t likes to go balls to the walls

gusty rampart
#

Viol2t 2022 MVP

earnest leaf
#

I still think viol2t was robbed of mvp in 2020

#

It was legit Viol2t>>Alarm>>>>>>>>everyone else

#

Viol2t would straight up dual dps as zen and win constantly

twin bloom
#

Lol

tiny pollen
#

not if one of them is made to be a lucio otp

gusty rampart
#

Not when you low-key have a Lucio OTP

next mesa
#

The ideal support rotation is 2 players that can play all the support heroes 😌

gusty rampart
#

Viol2t is an ideal support rotation

tropic herald
tiny pollen
#

has taiyo posted anything

shut mural
#

as someone new to esports, seeing all these teams doing their contract changes and hiring/firing is so stressfull

trim shadow
#

weve been dealing with it since 2019

earnest leaf
#

I would have given void a runner up to mvp

gusty rampart
#

Leave overrated anyway

tropic herald
#

no

gusty rampart
#

I'd vote Void over Leave anyday of the week

#

I'd vote mostly everyone over Leave

tropic herald
#

the issue is void and leave dont play the same role

#

id take both of them if i could

gusty rampart
#

Imo I think almost all the DPS nominees were better than Leave

#

Fleta and LIP destroyed Hunters multiple times

#

Profit if the only one I would say

#

Only due to Seoul's performance overall

twin bloom
#

Hanbin was the true MVP

#

He was the sole reason why jecksay's and doha's weaknesses weren't exposed

trim shadow
#

leave overrated monka

gusty rampart
#

Leave overrated

#

Hunters outdated

#

Long have we awaited

willow tartan
#

LIP MVP

#

or maybe no LIP mvp

#

thats the only reason he competes in OWL

#

man was trolling in grand finals because he wanted grand finals mvp more than he wanted to win the playoffs

gusty rampart
#

Literal 6ft3 Gaming Warlord will try to farm clips in matches that matter and still win

worldly flax
willow tartan
#

gahh

#

4.5k imagine

#

fuck justice im going to fuel instead

#

they only ask 4.4k

tropic herald
idle gorge
#

Is it just me or are there way more players/coaches leaving teams than other years?

willow tartan
#

I think it's just you.

novel owl
tacit skiff
opaque steppe
willow tartan
#

We've had one person turn into a coach and I think 3 people consider retirement?

#

The rest are LFT. They aren't leaving OWL

#

Players always get juggled in the off-season.

plush grail
balmy wolf
#

gator hawk an kai staying on atl

devout path
#

So they’re looking for offers as to who wants them

tacit skiff
#

I've only ever seen him play Zarya thougg

#

and I don't think Zarya will be played all that much in ow2

#

depends on how they change dva and hog ig

north relic
#

I think he has played dva more than zarya

hot onyx
#

I don’t think off tank will be played at all in ow2

#

I’d love to be proven wrong

willow tartan
#

ok lets bet

north relic
#

Guys how do I try out for fuel I can’t read Korean

willow tartan
weak cypress
#

What are the eu teams?

willow tartan
#

The London Spitfire and the Paris Eternal.

#

Those are the only European teams.

weak cypress
#

Oh lol thought there were a bit more😂

willow tartan
#

Nah. There are 2 European teams, 4 Chinese teams and 14 NA teams.

weak cypress
#

Aight im an instant paris eternal fan now. Their is an dutchman

#

Its my duty to support my fellow country man😂

willow tartan
#

That's the spirit! You're now a true OWL fan.

hot onyx
#

And so another member joins the Cult of Luigi

willow tartan
#

I mean Daan is the best player on Paris.

#

He's the star of the show.

north relic
willow tartan
#

Sure. Do you live in Hawaii?

north relic
willow tartan
#

What, like Soe?

#

Good luck.

north relic
willow tartan
#

You can pay for a translator.

north relic
#

Memeicus can you be my translator

willow tartan
#

I don't speak Korean.

north relic
#

Fuck

willow tartan
#

I don't think we actually have any Koreans in ED.

#

weird.

north relic
#

Luigi isn’t korean?

plush grail
#

I'm dutch you brainlet

hot onyx
#

I believe I saw Kenobi type messages in Chinese on the GZCharge discord so if you needed a translator for joining the Hunters don’t ask him and ask Marbel instead

plush grail
#

Sans doesn't even speak proper English

hot onyx
#

The struggles of being British

plush grail
#

its okay we still love u

balmy wolf
#

unless we dont

north relic
plush grail
#

i hate americans

mortal abyss
north relic
mortal abyss
#

Alarm could get a spot on literally any other team tbh

worn falcon
#

Bless them

north relic
#

Carpe as well imo

mortal abyss
#

But I’m pretty sure he likes it on fusion

worn falcon
#

Alarm and carpe enjoyer

north relic
#

The only team alarm would get benched is shanghai and maybe glads

plush grail
worn falcon
#

You're putting shu over alarm? Heck you

north relic
#

That’s why I said maybe

north relic
#

Who is in the middle

plush grail
raw ermine
#

tobi retired, became a coach

next mesa
#

Weeee

willow tartan
#

Player coach tobi comes in to clutch up the grand finals

raw ermine
tropic herald
#

Also Gator Hawk n Kai on reign

tacit skiff
#

WOOO punk

#

I love that guy

#

but yknow who I loved more

#

myunbong

#

😔

tropic herald
tacit skiff
#

he's baiting

worn falcon
#

kai still alive

#

k

#

Kai, Gator, Hawk stay

#

isee

#

Maasa????

tacit skiff
#

i just wanna know about the new signings already, I don't wanna wait three days :(

worn falcon
#

inb4 Raltanta signs Twilight

balmy wolf
#

nah

#

we have iris

tacit skiff
#

Twilight goes to Fusion

#

or Seoul

worn falcon
#

Twilight already have alarm

#

Dynasty, Spark, Charge, Eternal, Defiant have spots