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sullen berry
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Best emote in the game

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🏝️ wreckingball

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Seawave with a killer hanzo, granted it's still Time Resume trying to play ball

somber latch
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Florida got rid of their roster

raw ermine
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He's still under contract with outlaws

willow tartan
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Amazing content

gusty rampart
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This is more entertaining than APAC regular season

tawdry hamlet
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Houston rebuild time !

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Also ttuba oge titans rebuild ez 🥵

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Oge Gaebullssi Pine Ttuba Kariv Slime rebuild ez, it would be cheap and shit which I hear Titans are used to

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So ez rebuild

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And seominsoo for double hitscan kek

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Though I have a feeling they're just going to sign bottom tier na contenders and a washed Korean/European and call it good

raw ermine
digital cloud
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what ever happened to mr penis fish

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did he fall off or something

earnest leaf
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Punk was probably just better in scrims

worn falcon
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xzi lol

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The man is playing with 200 ping

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The fuck XZI

willow tartan
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why dont he just join a korean contenders team?

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i dont get it

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no one want him in korea?

idle beacon
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when will we be able to earn tokens again?

willow tartan
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When OWL starts back up again

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Or if we get another flash ops

idle beacon
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any news about when OWL will continue?

wicked pendant
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I think they said late Q2 and it will be on an "early build" of OW2, right?

willow tartan
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No they confirmed it to be April.

wicked pendant
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Oh, pog.

tropic herald
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4/22/2022

wicked pendant
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It's time to spin the wheel of "Which tank players will still have a job by then?"

willow tartan
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The good ones

wicked pendant
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Thank you Super

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jk

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As much as I'd love to see more Super in OW2, I'd feel bad if he was in over Choi and Smurf who have no streaming career to fall back on.

willow tartan
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they have two championships worth of money. fine to get themselves back on their feet

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  • they can always pull a moth and get signed to glads for big bux
idle beacon
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wonder who will tank for SHD

willow tartan
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itll be a rotation

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depending on whats meta

idle beacon
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void or fate

willow tartan
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I seriously doubt most teams will go for 1 tank unless they're like the super budget teams

idle beacon
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and, no OWL for 6 months? ... that's damn long

willow tartan
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That's the off season for ya.

idle beacon
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so are there offseason matches or not?

willow tartan
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There are a few off season tournaments.

tropic herald
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Probably some show matches closer to the season

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Like how we had the winter ball

willow tartan
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Like Shanghai Masters and Nexus cup.

tropic herald
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And then we never saw the valiant team play again

willow tartan
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But if you want pro overwatch there's still Overwatch Contenders going on.

trim shadow
willow tartan
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not really lol

trim shadow
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talking bleeding money

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unless merch sales are absolutely insane

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and owl gets a shit ton of money from youtube for views and per deal for streaming rights

tacit skiff
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Shanghai downfall imminent

gusty rampart
trim shadow
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i fuckin forgot develop existed

digital cloud
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wait wasn't develop supposed to be a god

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what happened there

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man I am behind all this shit

earnest leaf
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Apparently he was some contenders hitscan god that got played for like two games

worn falcon
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Develop to Vancouver

next mesa
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HEY GUYS

worn falcon
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Jk, to Washington

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Or Florida

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Ez

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Jesus, today has been a massacre though

digital cloud
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ow2 is apparently quite the motivator for change

trim shadow
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no shit considering they made lft owl go trending

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and every player with talent or owl experience is trying to get on board

willow tartan
next mesa
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First esports announcement post

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😎😎😎

vagrant cargo
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glads rlly kicked muze??

willow tartan
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muze kicked himself outta glads

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good for him

vagrant cargo
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if they dont have like kellan on lock than they are dumb asf

willow tartan
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nah fuck kellan

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space solo tank

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space rein sunglassesvery3dcool

balmy wolf
vagrant cargo
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and i bexome Atlanta fan

balmy wolf
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thats even better les gooo

earnest leaf
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I could see using muze over gator for purely flexibility

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but it would have to depend on the meta

balmy wolf
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for dive metas hes 2x better

earnest leaf
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Muze for dive tanks/orisa

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gator for rush/orisa

tawdry hamlet
vagrant cargo
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MuZe gator is perfect tbh

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but i can also see Toronto going for him

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Heesu Yaki MuZe Gargoyle Twilight Funnyastro would be cracked

balmy wolf
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astro would rather go back to reign

neat tundra
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Do you think Toronto has the money for yaki, twilight, and funntastro

tacit skiff
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who is td owner?

balmy wolf
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idk he does a bad job tho

last nimbus
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interested to see where striker will go

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imagine striker on Chengdu

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easily best dps duo in whole owl

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especially since dps will be important

tawdry hamlet
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Nyxl should sign pine as a content creator or a backup hitscan or something

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He seems like he'd do good in that role like sbb would

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Colorhex looking for team loll

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Funnyastro could go back to Atlanta that'd be decent 👀

zealous venture
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a bunch of people could probably replace masaa

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the question is if they want to go to atlanta in the first place

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you got jecse, twilight, crimzo (probably resigning with houston), joobi, toronto and miamis supports

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also

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for a team whos motto is "shields up" LA glads dont really like holding on to main tanks lol

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cant wait for super to be announced for LA

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since LA are betting on a championship and are trying to turn a superteam into a supersuperteam

plush grail
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@sullen berry fuck charge

somber latch
last nimbus
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yeah

somber latch
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Wer proof

last nimbus
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he said in a stream

tacit skiff
balmy wolf
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f

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also wtf did this guy forced tank player just say?

sullen berry
balmy wolf
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i feel intelligent after reading that

sullen berry
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For everyone else, its a cursed timeline

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Hate to play upset

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This looks like HANGZHOU vs GUANGZHOU academy time

tacit skiff
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A lot of the teams I've been wanting to hear from are disappointingly quiet.

tacit skiff
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London

sullen berry
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And who would that be?

tacit skiff
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Vancouver

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and Hangzhou

balmy wolf
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last place since 2019

tacit skiff
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Boston doesn't make interesting changes lmao I don't expect anything except a replacement for im37 or faith

balmy wolf
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still dead last

tacit skiff
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?

balmy wolf
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get fucked shitter

tacit skiff
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?

balmy wolf
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???

tacit skiff
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?

balmy wolf
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boston last?

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absolutly

tacit skiff
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?

balmy wolf
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im37 worst hitscan?

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yes

tacit skiff
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haha

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chex

balmy wolf
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chex is a meme

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hes not real

tacit skiff
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he's fa

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going to Vancouver

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to meet his owl grave

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and Boston ranked 15th?

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notably not last

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big improvement from last year, so proud of my boys

balmy wolf
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dead last

tacit skiff
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got Florida eliminated ¯_(ツ)_/¯

balmy wolf
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how does it feel to be last place for 3 years straight?

tacit skiff
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I wish I knew

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fortunately that hasn't happened yet

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ask a lav fan that in season 6, tyty

balmy wolf
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must be hard for boston fans knowing they will forever be last

tacit skiff
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it's not really!
optimistic after the improvements we made this season

balmy wolf
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after improvements ur team wouldnt be last

tacit skiff
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besides, I don't think anyone cares about eSports that much anyway to get truly upset over something so non important

tacit skiff
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and maybe even the Valiant in the future

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it's how being last in a season typically works 👉👈

balmy wolf
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improve by being last

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good spirit

tacit skiff
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you're starting to get it now

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can only go up from last :)

balmy wolf
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unless it doesnt happen

tacit skiff
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well, you never know!

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that's why it's always worth the effort to try

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and why having hope is always good

balmy wolf
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ngl

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i feel kinda bad for u

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all jokes aside

tacit skiff
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that's fine, I feel really bad for valiant fans!

balmy wolf
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true

tacit skiff
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it seems every season 1 goat team has fallen down these days

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but there's always going to be another overwatch league season to look forward to!

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if the Shock can crumble, the bottom can rise

balmy wolf
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ppl need ur positivity

tacit skiff
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(◍•ᴗ•◍) just tryna be optimistic

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even after Season 3 I was still a diehard Uprising fan

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and my faith worked out, 15th is much better than 20th. A lot better than we've done since Season 1.

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I'm just hoping Florida fans get their actual good season next year :)

willow drum
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Yaki for Danteh

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could happen

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danteh and yaki both have high ass trade value

tacit skiff
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I could see it happen.

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Does anyone know if Space is good at any other tank apart from D.Va?

balmy wolf
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outlaws wont sell danteh

tacit skiff
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I personally think Houston and Florida should keep both players

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I like Yaki and Danteh a lot

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but unfortunately, Florida wants to go full western 😔

north relic
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space sig and zarya are fine

tacit skiff
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how does Smurf Space sound as a Gladiators tank line up

hot onyx
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Cracked

north relic
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on paper cracked

hot onyx
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But at the same time Carpe-Rascal sounded cracked on paper

next mesa
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twilight not a main support

digital cloud
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Wait a minute muze was dropped

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What the hell

raw ermine
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he's going to the korean military

gusty rampart
sullen berry
raw ermine
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what

shell bear
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so why did most of their teams retire a lot of their members

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like i know about 5v5 and stuff but i see a lot of players leaving

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you arent wrong

next mesa
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better than their current roster thats foh sho

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to be expected

plain turtle
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Mayhem just yote everyone

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Rip

next mesa
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AGAIN

hot onyx
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Woohyal to Defiant

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Plausible

raw ermine
worn falcon
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Imagine

next mesa
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COME ON

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SIGN INNOVATION

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ABOUT TIME

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SEOUL SIGN INNOVATION I DONT CARE

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😩 😩

gusty rampart
gusty rampart
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🐢

supple prism
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alright, im gonna start recording how many players of each role are being released until OWL starts and see if tanks are the most dropped role

north relic
raw ermine
next mesa
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sign nohill

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u win

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just do it

willow tartan
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No hill to Hangzhou pls

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they need real coaching

supple prism
north relic
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1 support difference

north relic
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i didnt count either

supple prism
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Aztac, Lastro, Ansoonjae, Jecse, Rapel, Joobi, Ganggnamjin, Slime, Closer

north relic
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i think i missed joobi

supple prism
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and 0 on any pickups

echo quest
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Dam

stuck radish
trim lynx
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im search esport team

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im from quebec canada

willow tartan
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off tanks can play fs

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ez

stuck radish
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choihyobin zen

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pog

tacit skiff
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important reminder that GodsB is still a fa

willow tartan
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why dont charge just sign godsb

hot onyx
supple prism
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ok

vestal grotto
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Today was quieter than I expected

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Not many big names appeared

shadow dagger
trim shadow
gusty rampart
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He could

trim shadow
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yes super is a good player but for a 1 tank composition im not conformable

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unless shock is in a bidding war for a player

gusty rampart
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Choi and Super would be an excellent thank lineup

supple prism
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it would cover all the tanks

gusty rampart
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Ye

noble nexus
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If smurf went to glads I’d actually bust a fat load

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😫😫😫

trim shadow
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well muze left so

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imagine if its a swap muze goes to shock smurf decided togo to los angeles

stuck radish
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what if its just space

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you only need 1 tank after all

hot onyx
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Oh shit yeah I keep forgetting Blizzard don’t care about tank

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Space main tank

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Could be funky

somber latch
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but makes sense

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smurf glad is very plausible

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but then no rein player

north relic
next mesa
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Smurf rein isnt bad it's just that supers is too good

willow tartan
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super is the best rein in the league still sunglassesvery3dcool

vestal grotto
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you forgot about checkmate

willow tartan
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checkmate is not in the league anymore troel

willow tartan
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no owl is so suck

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feel so lonely and empty

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nothing to look forward to on the weekends

stuck radish
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watch one OWL game every day from season 1

north relic
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I look forward to being able to not wake up at 6am on the weekends

willow tartan
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thats like 700 games

north relic
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And suffer through 40 loses

willow tartan
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ah yes

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rewatch all of shanghai's games

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vod analysis

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ah you know those frame by frame trailer analysis videos? that but for OWL

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gonna watch every OWL game at .25 speed

somber latch
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that sounds like torture

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i love it

stuck radish
tiny pollen
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twiglight and smurf to seoul

frank torrent
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Okay I'm late to the party but why the fuck did Defiant fire almost their entire starting lineup

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And Muze and Jecse are apparently out too?

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THEY LET JJANGU GO WTF

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Although Mayhem firing their entire starting lineup kinda makes sense after they choked so hard they let a Bumper wannabe start main tank

raw ermine
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first point: idk
second: yeah, muze idk but jecse wasn't TOO surprising, arguably the weakest starter.
third: yes very sadge
fourth: yeah yaki's being traded reportedly, not too surprising.

fallen turret
somber latch
frank torrent
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And Muze is just WOW

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Stabbing themselves in the thigh on that one

proven saddle
frank torrent
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You fired the one guy on your team that improved more than any other, easily, and learned two tanks from the ground up just to give you more flexibility on map-dependent picks, after him and Skewed formed two halves of the silver bullet that took you to a tournament win and quarterfinals

somber latch
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sadly

frank torrent
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Glads management took their best season ever and said yeah we're just gonna dumpster our most driven and dedicated player bar none

proven saddle
somber latch
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but overall still kinda messed up

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anyway

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does anyone here have a list of free agents

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its kinda hard to keep up

proven saddle
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We should do an excel, is complicated considering some people retire, some others are just looking for better offers and the rest are straight up denied

frank torrent
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This is bullshit

proven saddle
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i'm gonna do one tomorrow

frank torrent
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Are NA this desperate to try and figure out a roster to match Shanghai?

somber latch
frank torrent
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Like Mayhem drops their entire starter lineup and Charge is just in the corner goin y'all hear sumthin

somber latch
frank torrent
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I gotta know what they had to do to keep yaki on

somber latch
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bro

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rumors say they gonna trade yaki

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and they gonna go semi/full western

proven saddle
frank torrent
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Because whoever they trade him off to is gonna have to cough up a lot

somber latch
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i think thats their objective

frank torrent
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And events like this in any sporting League usually point to the lone survivor being pushed into obscurity

noble nexus
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I mean yaki was the only really valuable player they had

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Bqb and gangnamjin would be valuable if their role’s weren’t so stacked

proven saddle
somber latch
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cant really think of anything

somber latch
frank torrent
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No but I've seen this shit happen in other eSports scenes and basketball dozens of times
It's not a game thing - it's a management thing

noble nexus
frank torrent
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They trade off whatever they ask for to get the golden goose and then it breaks within weeks

noble nexus
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Either way he isn’t the best free agent flex support so

proven saddle
frank torrent
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I mean NYXL got rawdogged by a gimmicked points system out of playoffs this year so IDK man

noble nexus
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The ideal pickups for justice are gangnamjin jecse assuming they don’t get some tendies players

proven saddle
frank torrent
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After that they can't build a core to support their wunderkind and it all falls apart

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Yaki might be able to push through that but he will need a pre-existing core to go anywhere

noble nexus
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They’re gonna trade yaki anyways lol

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They just kept him to make money to sign AT

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I also totally forgot about gargoyle who definitely deserves another team too

proven saddle
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For sure

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also, i really hate the justice team overall

frank torrent
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Yep
Tiltmaster 9000 the Tracer onetrick and five schmucks in it for the paycheck

proven saddle
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is like when you create a team in fifa

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uhhmm im going to put half of my budget to have ronaldo and messi in the same team cuz they're the best, how can this strategy fail??

noble nexus
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I mean decay only functions on teams that treat him like royalty lmao

next mesa
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Any news I missed

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In the last few hours

proven saddle
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i hate saying this, but overrated as fuck

noble nexus
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Decay being overrated is kinda the popular opinion now innit

somber latch
proven saddle
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sure he is fucking amazing, but i'd rather spend that money, because he is not cheap, more evenly

somber latch
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we just discussing possible scenarios and thoughts

next mesa
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I know but sometimes ppl responsible for posting aren't online

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Ayt ayt

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So nothin

noble nexus
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He got a 5 man pocket on a tank hero and now people think he’s top 5 on every hero in the game and his tracer can destroy planets

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Fuck decay

somber latch
noble nexus
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He can suck my balls

proven saddle
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The problem with justice is that i feel like they don't do any scouting just because they have money

next mesa
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Np np

noble nexus
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Yo Levy you lookin kinda handsome today bro

next mesa
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Decay is like overrated yeah

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To the point where I think he's properly rated now

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Thanks habibi

somber latch
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decay has some kind of curse dude

proven saddle
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I mean, other teams can find really great individuals no one knows, Ans, Kai, Jjangu and Piggy, Aspire.
while justice is like, who's the most expensive out there, must be good

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being an asshole?

somber latch
noble nexus
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Ans is back

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Also he meant in scouting

somber latch
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oh

somber latch
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as a shock fan

proven saddle
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yeah, but my point remains, he was nobody and crusty literally saw something others didn't

earnest leaf
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apparently when they were trialing ans

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his aim was fucking nutty

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but his brain was missing

noble nexus
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Yeah no positioning

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All aim no brain

proven saddle
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same with sanguinar, the dude didn't even played in contenders, straight up to OWL

somber latch
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remind me pls'

noble nexus
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Old london spitfire player

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From s3 I think

proven saddle
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now he is in contender for the first time

somber latch
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i see

proven saddle
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T3 -> T1 -> T2

somber latch
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a bit off topic, should super become a v-tuber

noble nexus
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Super should just retire tbh

proven saddle
noble nexus
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Idk how he still finds competitive play fun

somber latch
proven saddle
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he's benching smurf tho

noble nexus
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He’d make more full time streaming

proven saddle
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even on monkey

somber latch
somber latch
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but super is more flexible

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with rein and what not

noble nexus
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He shouldn’t be benching smurf at all tbh

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Only for his comms really

somber latch
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considering that shock was mainly playing brawl, kinda makes sense that smurf was benched

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playoffs

noble nexus
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I feel like without being signed he could focus so much more on his socials

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Also they’d play like 2 rounds of winston and one round of rein and still keep super in

somber latch
proven saddle
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isn't it weird that shangai can't manage to vary their core? they have plenty of players but the starters are just too good to be benched

noble nexus
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It’s not shock’s choice tho

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It’s super’s

somber latch
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either way he earns some phat stacks

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just depends if he enjoys competetivre

noble nexus
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And imo the logical choice would be to full time stream if I were in his place

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I mean he prolly has a like 200-300k salary or some shit from owl and thats easy to make over a year just doing sponsorship deals if he were to build his stream up n shit

tawdry hamlet
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It would be nice if charge acquired someone like bqb so Eileen could stop being forced to play McCree 💀

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Like it's actually sadge 😭

noble nexus
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No pls

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Too used to charge being shit

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I can’t handle a change like that

tawdry hamlet
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I mean they did a change like that before trollformation they went from upper mid to 😴 in one off season

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Literally if they'd kept the exact same s3 roster and just signed a tank they'd be a top 5 team assuming brig was meta forever again

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And neptuno didn't play trollformation

noble nexus
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Should never have let go of Shu tbh

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They dropped their spaghetti on that one

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah, Nero and Chara I can get because Chara wanted to coach and Nero probably didn't want to spend a third year away from home and happy is middle of the table so I guess you can excuse that but then we got shu 😭

gusty rampart
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Hangzhou dropping coaches ONCE more

noble nexus
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Yeah fr

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Hangzhou is the only apac team I support unfortunately

tawdry hamlet
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S3 charge though 😭 The support line was fucking tragic, the main tank sucked, and the dps were forced to off role because their rookie was so bad

earnest leaf
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tbh next season I might fully commit to watching apac games

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just so I can flame apac even more

gusty rampart
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If it's more entertaining then I will

earnest leaf
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that too

noble nexus
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Apac boring asf tho ngl

gusty rampart
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Make more APAC teams

earnest leaf
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Games were so predictable

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I literally did better in apac than NA

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and I barely watched apac

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(for pick-ems)

noble nexus
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I stopped watching like one tourney in

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Honestly I sucked at apac

gusty rampart
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I'd stay up for tokens

tawdry hamlet
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I watched most of apac 🙏

hollow bough
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same here

tawdry hamlet
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I'm a token gremlin and have terrible sleeping habits

noble nexus
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I was still somehow 1st for this discords Pickems thing till I forgot to submit like 3 weeks worth of preds lmao

gusty rampart
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I got #1 in Summer Showdown

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Peaked #10 Global

tawdry hamlet
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Can't wait for my main man closer to go to Vancouver 🥵😳😏

noble nexus
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Lmfao

tawdry hamlet
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But serious if Vancouver newest support lineup isn't some mish mash of Kariv Slime closer or bottom tier na players I'll be amazed

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Like kariv closer literally seems like the most Vancouver support line ever

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Absolutely mid, and absolutely not that great

noble nexus
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Nah it’s gonna be a half Korean half NA supp line

gusty rampart
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Slime Lastro lineup

noble nexus
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For optimal communication

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah lastro was the other one I was thinking of lol

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No way they go out of their way for a decent player like gnj

gusty rampart
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I don't doubt Changsik will stay

noble nexus
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They definitely won’t pay for gnj

gusty rampart
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Ganjaman

tawdry hamlet
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They'll probably pay the leftover na contenders players that weren't at

noble nexus
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I doubt he’d go there even if they did try to pay that sorta money

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Also wtf is going on with valiant

tawdry hamlet
noble nexus
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Are they staying apac or not

gusty rampart
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NYXL and Valiant back to NA pls

tawdry hamlet
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If they don't I presume they'll go back to over performing with largely non apac based rosters

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S3 valiant was such a weird mash up

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Shax Kai Lastro Rain McGravy Dreamer

noble nexus
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Also my assumption but without packing10’s crack pack scouting skills I doubt they get a functional roster

tawdry hamlet
#

Packing10 seemed to like signing na players I noticed

#

Like agilities to replace ksf

#

Wonder how that would have gone lmao

#

Or Adam instead of gravy

noble nexus
#

I mean adam would’ve been an upgrade prolly

tawdry hamlet
#

That initial season 4 roster was interesting since it really didn't look too good

#

Hmm, idk I watched Adam in contenders, and watched him and gig get dumpstered before uprising academy dropped them. He seemed like any other run of the mill mid at best tank, like vestola/gravy vibes

#

Agilities would've been a meme though because with how heavy mei was this year agilities being your only mei is sadge

#

And they'd have no Sombra player unless shax has a Sombra loll

tropic herald
#

initial valiant would barely be above like boston if even

tawdry hamlet
#

I wish there were more billionaire companies or people so that there were more owners willing to pay for good players 🙏😭

#

Probably below Toronto tbh

tawdry hamlet
#

Wait I just realized something

#

JJangu was working just fine, Houston was having support line issues, so they sign the main tank from valiant instead of the main support? 🤔 Surely rain is better than Jake at main support I'd think

#

And rain was the only ex valiant not picked up lol

#

Besides gravy

#

Actually yeah I feel like Rain would have fit Houston well maybe

gusty rampart
#

Bye KariV

fallen turret
#

Charge just released 4

tropic herald
#

ah shit

#

theres a solid 5 announcements

devout path
#

No more jihun

#

No more mykaylee

tacit skiff
next mesa
#

Empathy u doing it?

tropic herald
#

idc

next mesa
#

OKAY MEME

tropic herald
#

this one is long

devout path
tropic herald
#

you are very lucky you are not muted

devout path
#

LOL

#

It’s 5

#

Not 4

#

I’m not dumb

next mesa
#

mykaylee is actually doing like really good in contenders though

willow tartan
#

lmao imagine being fired in the middle of a game

next mesa
#

but he's playing proj because seawave is better hitscan lol

devout path
#

Has mykaylee grown a brain yet

willow tartan
#

UP is getting full held back to back

tropic herald
#

i think mykaylee could maybe redeem himself

#

but he def wasnt ready this year

#

or maybe guangzhou environment was bad

devout path
#

Prolly the latter

somber latch
#

im calling it rn, shock gonna be mid tier team next year

worn falcon
#

Kariv sadge

tropic herald
wicked pendant
#

We would like to announce our parting with Jihun, MYKaylee, KariV, and Mandu.

We would not have gotten here without you.

#

Eh? Gotten where?

gusty rampart
#

God damnit

#

Empathy beat me

next mesa
#

damnnn

#

i wonder if someone would sign coldest m1ka

#

my hopes are low

#

They are promoting alphayi for sure then

#

probably hyunjae and irony too

#

although charon and kyo looks good as well

#

Pineapple too

#

Pineapple Shy

#

I lost

#

that triple dps line cracked as fuck

trail perch
#

Im sad

#

Seominsoo :(

next mesa
#

seominsoo doe

trail perch
#

Is gone :(

next mesa
#

:((

trail perch
#

he played so well tho all season

#

His Sombra was actually good

#

and his mei was great when he got playtime

willow tartan
#

they keep archeetect?

trail perch
#

for some reason...

#

Seominsoo was just better

limpid estuary
#

Leads into that question I asked the other day

#

I am seeing more news about dps or supports being dropped than tanks

#

But I thought everyone was saying that OWL teams were gonna cut 30-50% of their tank rosters

willow tartan
#

Answer: There are more DPS and Supports in the league than tanks.

worn falcon
#

Yeh, although MS are more rare than FS

digital cloud
#

There is a large possibility this happens due to tanks being halved, but yeah, also more players are in other roles

#

You know, like it is in comp as well

#

Because blizz hates tanks

willow tartan
#

Usually in DPS rotations you keep a third since there's so many heroes. Usually in support rotations you keep a second flex support in case of double flex meta but usually with tanks you only keep two because you don't wanna keep swapping your frontline.

worn falcon
#

Yeh

willow tartan
#

There will only be one tank in the game at a time but that does not mean that there are less tanks in the game. You still need your D.Va player to play D.va and your wrecking ball player to play wrecking ball.

worn falcon
#

Or your only tank to learn other roles

#

But for now gonna happen like that

willow tartan
#

In fact, there will be more heroes in the game in general so a second or even third tank may be necessary in the future as one person can only effectively master a few heroes at a time before spreading themselves too thin.

digital cloud
#

Ow has always leaned towards hyper flex

willow tartan
#

The most "hyperflex" players in the game still only play like 7 heroes at most.

digital cloud
#

There is no way they won’t eventually get to the point where only one tank is usually fielded

worn falcon
#

Yeh, even the DPS stick to a few

#

Not all

digital cloud
#

Though it may be that isn’t all that soon

willow tartan
#

I seriously doubt one person is going to master 15 tank heroes.

digital cloud
#

Plus we have to remember most tanks aren’t gonna be used

worn falcon
#

That's why you can see some echo players struggling when they clone tanks

willow tartan
#

Maybe you have one main and one specialist but I don't think you will ever just have one tank player.

digital cloud
#

With only one tank in at a time most tanks are gonna be worthless

#

There might only be like three or four usable tanks

worn falcon
#

Ehh we don't know

willow tartan
digital cloud
#

We know even now that meta dictates usability a lot

worn falcon
#

They still play testing, setting a baseline

willow tartan
#

Why would teams start preparing for 1 tanks in their roster when they haven't even seen the game they will be playing next season?

worn falcon
#

If goes weird they drop another patxh and so

digital cloud
#

How is a game as meta dependent as ow going to have that many useful tanks

willow tartan
#

OW2 is not the OW you know.

worn falcon
#

Heck, even ow1 in earlier seasons was wack af

willow tartan
#

It's a completely different game and should be treated as such.

digital cloud
#

Sure there is no 6v6, but the same people are making it

willow tartan
#

For all we know, picks aren't going to matter in OW2 and you can play whatever you want.

#

Or maybe only Winston is viable because his scatter arrow is OP.

digital cloud
#

That never happens in any game at pro level, something always wins out

worn falcon
#

As memeicus said it's gonna be a different game, keep this, even heroes gonna have a different approaching on how you play them

willow tartan
#

Profit could be shit at OW2 tracer

#

Hero is different. Game is played differently.

worn falcon
#

Like you're not gonna play the freezing mei to hold a player, you gonna melt them and icicle

#

The sombra and bastion rework show a bit of the direction of dps

digital cloud
#

Crazy ridiculous bullshit with less cc seems to be the idea

worn falcon
#

But still needs tons of test to see where is viable, where its stupidly op and where is wack and fun to keep it

digital cloud
#

I liked the bastion rework a fair bit but I still think bastion stays bad

next mesa
digital cloud
#

You just want anyone to Seoul

next mesa
#

SOMEONE TO SEOUL CONFIRMED 💯

worn falcon
#

Simp ml7Weird

digital cloud
#

Oh god he was born 2004

#

I am so old

worn falcon
#

Imagine smurf in Seoul

next mesa
#

That'd be op as fuck

#

Poach one of lige komodo attack

#

That other guy that's playing over attack starts with a c I forgot

worn falcon
#

In fact snatch all the runaway players again and build runaway owl

next mesa
#

YES

#

Great idea

#

Profit Haksal

digital cloud
#

Bumper

worn falcon
#

Dedust JJANU

gusty rampart
#

Haksal won't return

#

He busy playing LoL

digital cloud
#

Imagine going from ow to lol

#

How much is even transferable, even with the moba elements

gusty rampart
#

He went pro the instant he retired from OW

next mesa
#

Wait really

gusty rampart
#

He played some on the side most likely

#

Yeah he's pro in LoL

digital cloud
#

In like

#

A good team?

next mesa
#

What's his twitter

#

Now

#

Liquipedia me

gusty rampart
#

Instagram is ghyojong

worn falcon
#

Haksal haven't touched his twitter in a year

gusty rampart
#

Twitter is Haksal

worn falcon
#

Since he retired

gusty rampart
#

He posts on Insta a lot

worn falcon
#

Koreans seems to like more insta than Twitter

gusty rampart
digital cloud
#

So he is on a pro team?

#

Is he any good

gusty rampart
#

Probably

#

It's Haksal

digital cloud
#

I mean, sure but it isn’t like the games are one to one

#

And I can’t understand Korean so I have no idea how to find out what his team is

gusty rampart
#

You can play one game and be good at the other

digital cloud
#

I know that, I just am not assuming he is a god in lol or whatever

gusty rampart
#

Pro Overwatch players went Pro in Valorant

#

It isn't uncommon or unheard of

somber latch
tawdry hamlet
#

Gz drop Rio challenge impossible

#

Also teams stop putting faith in kariv challenge

queen notch
willow tartan
#

nomegalul

queen notch
#

probably not

willow tartan
#

runaway titans pooed on in 2-2-2

queen notch
#

let me have my hopium tho

#

they were great at dive tho from what i remember

mortal abyss
earnest leaf
#

Only issue with runaway tbh was their dps would fall so far behind a lot of teams now

#

unless they got a hard genji meta

#

I honestly think their tanks/supports could keep up

#

just make slime grind brig

willow tartan
#

haksal brig

earnest leaf
#

I don't think his brig would be as good nowadays

#

I think most MS/FS players have gotten way better at brig

willow tartan
#

prolly yeah

idle gorge
#

so defiant pretty much have no players now

balmy wolf
#

great observation

tawdry hamlet
#

Seominsoo Haksal Stitch was super mid at dps line when they couldn't play zarya or genji loll

#

And ryujehong I don't think would keep up today

balmy wolf
#

bumper was shit

tawdry hamlet
#

The orisa guy wasn't great either but I'm high and blanking on the name

#

Uhh

#

Tizi

balmy wolf
#

yes

#

slime also bad

tawdry hamlet
#

Meko and jjanu got ruined 😭

#

Roar just mid 😴

plush grail
#

friendly reminder that if u dont wear ur owl merch outside ur a virgin

north relic
#

oh wait it doesn’t exist

tacit skiff
#

need to buy me some merch tbh

#

i could totally rock the gucci fusions Uprising jersey

trail perch
#

So instead of a haksal stitch sms dps line

#

We’d have a yaki heesu haksal assassin

#

Tanks we’d have Mag and Jjanu

#

Supports we’d have leejaegon and twilight

plush grail
#

Like I would pay good money for a onigod or naga jersey

gusty rampart
humble yarrow
#

So many teams are getting rid of thier roster

tacit skiff
#

usually what happens when they don't wanna spend money on big names

north relic
north relic
plush grail
#

Shut up

somber latch
plush grail
#

SHUT UP

raw ermine
digital cloud
#

Now all we need is profit and carpe to retire

forest raven
#

Rascal's still in the scene

north relic
worn falcon
#

Rip the other Rascal

next mesa
#

Whattt

#

Birsring

#

Gonna retird

#

Sadge

raw ermine
#

Apparently glister posted an LFT but deleted it immediately

balmy wolf
#

Dpei still glads coach I quit LA Gladiators

#

hahaha

stuck radish
#

become Shock fan

balmy wolf
#

but glads will not become a Vancouver level of bad

stuck radish
#

i mean

#

what if shu and kevster leave

twin bloom
stuck radish
#

idk

next mesa
#

.

stuck radish
#

!

balmy wolf
tired furnace
raw ermine
worldly flax
#

even smurf has been given an opp to look for other options NotLikeSoldier

#

kinda worried for owl 2022 NotLikeSoldier

next mesa
#

Hi

trim shadow
#

spark wasted coldest’s career

#

i will die on this hill

trim shadow
raw ermine
woven arch
#

@raw ermine heyy goodmorning

raw ermine
#

hm?

last plover
#

is smurf leaving shock?

raw ermine
#

maybe

#

he is FA

#

until the sfs make a "thank you smurf" post, he can return

shadow dagger
#

glads r trolling

tropic herald
worldly flax
gusty rampart
#

Finally some good news

trail perch
#

daan coming back??

#

that is good news

#

for the other 19 teams

#

lmao

tiny pollen
#

based

mortal abyss
north relic
tiny pollen
#

i hope coach jake and player jake return

next mesa
#

Test

tropic herald
#

@plush grail looks like today is your W day

north relic
#

L

raw ermine
#

jmac moving up in the world

trail perch
next mesa
#

Jmac so good

north relic
#

Tifa cosplay inc

tropic herald
#

tldr

#

paris budget was not raised, avalla had to work to even keep 4 players on the roster

#

translator was dropped bc jmac english is good enough for 1 on 1s

gusty rampart
#

Rip Onigod

tropic herald
#

avalla and jmac think poko is a pretty good candidate as their OT signing but they are waiting till tryouts to make any movesw

#

avalla thinks off season will be dry until after contenders ends and tryouts happen

twin bloom
#

Their isn't a single eu OT better than vestola

#

Kinda tragic

tropic herald
#

vestola and onigod may come back to paris but they dont know yet

#

also paris isnt just going eu this season

balmy wolf
#

^vestola better

twin bloom
#

Might drop the hottest take imagibable

tropic herald
#

vestola n poko are good for different reasons

twin bloom
#

But poko isn't even top 5 western OT

#

Lol

balmy wolf
#

thats not hot

twin bloom
#

He isn't top 5 eu either

balmy wolf
#

thats hot

north relic
twin bloom
#

I would unironically take KSAA, molf1g, and vestola over him

tropic herald
#

obv ones are like space hawk punk

twin bloom
#

He's prolly top 4

north relic
tropic herald
#

australia is western for all purposes

balmy wolf
#

which is western

twin bloom
north relic
#

idk who false is

balmy wolf
#

cucumber

twin bloom
#

NA Contenders OT

balmy wolf
#

hawk is a god gamer

gusty rampart
#

Fearless is back

next mesa
#

Omg

#

While titan roster dropped

gusty rampart
#

Show

next mesa
#

Whole*

twin bloom
#

No!

gusty rampart
#

Link?

twin bloom
#

Dalton and Frd were goated😢

fallen turret
gusty rampart
#

Frd wasn't good

#

Dalton was below average to mid tier hitscan

twin bloom
#

Dalton above average tracer

#

Below average HS

fallen turret
#

The rest of the roster was iffy

hot onyx
twin bloom
#

Its true

hot onyx
#

All we’ve seen of Poko this season is his streams and when he was in Contenders for shits and giggles

#

It’d be unfair to rank him below Molf1g and KSAA without recent knowledge of how he performs in a competitive environment

tiny pollen
#

Fried weiner :(((

hot onyx
#

FRDWNR > Space Hawk

balmy wolf
mortal abyss
tiny pollen
#

no

plush grail
#

HAHAHAHA

#

all of the shock just wants out

tiny pollen
#

to much pressure from bandwagon fans

digital cloud
#

Ima buy ans for my plat scrim team

#

we gon go far with this guy I can feel it

tiny pollen
#

i call him for my mid masters team

raw ermine
#

I think we're gonna get another dallas post in 1 hour

#

they're spreading them out w/ 2 hour intervals

mortal abyss
tiny pollen
#

shit you got me beat

next mesa
#

Test

#

Okay I'm not trippin

#

Wait

raw ermine
#

what does this mean? I can't tell if he is saying titans are buying runaway players, or it's a joke

trail perch
raw ermine
#

ok it was written weird makes sense ty

trail perch
#

But the thing is

#

No one was talking about them returning

#

So maybe he's hinting

#

Instead of like a "no way" they return its more of a super "no shot" so like they are actually returning

raw ermine
stuck radish
#

what if vancouver signs the entire shanghai roster

north relic
trail perch
noble nexus
#

🐢

trail perch
#

did someone send this before?

raw ermine
#

yeah

trail perch
#

Yeah i was right

#

no one did

#

Who?

#

I command Fed for birdring

#

and no one came up

#

oh its cause levy misspelled birdring

#

nvm im dumb

#

Decay replace birdring?

#

They are basically the same player lmao

#

They've had the same pro path

#

start on kongdoo uncia

#

then go to kdp and be one of the best in the world

#

then spend time on glads and pop off

#

and they have the same hero pool

trail perch
#

Hitscan with some hyper flex

north relic
trail perch
#

yeah i said im dumb

#

lmao

trail perch
north relic
#

oh i just search the actual link

stuck radish
north relic
stuck radish
#

reported to the chinese government

#

goodbye

north relic
#

whenever i see the word goodbye i think of it in the mercy voiceline

stuck radish
#

i think of it in super's voice when saying smth like "goodbye smurf"

north relic
#

but yea i know what you are talking about

zealous venture
#

soyjak owl offseason watcher vs chad contenders watcher

#

jk jk

#

but funny contenders eu go brr

#

and aww yeah are winning

#

what a time to be alive

#

glowup

#

anyways

#

R.I.P with 3 new players

worldly coyote
#

em

north relic
#

verry cool

latent rampart
#

uh oh

balmy wolf
#

Twice today I’ve been pinged

polar falcon
#

uh

worldly coyote
#

someone is spam pinging

nova leaf
copper linden
#

Bruh

polar falcon
#

what the hell

lyric otter
#

👁

winged anvil
#

Why...

devout path
#

Mannnn

polar falcon
#

LMAO

molten ember
#

ugh mass ping

queen vault
#

why not

balmy wolf
#

Smh

copper linden
#

Bro pinged everyone

balmy wolf
#

They rly got us all active

gloomy vine
#

Anyways

deft valley
#

well that was something

misty slate
gloomy vine
#

Nice place

analog lark
#

what.

polar falcon
#

how did

nova leaf
#

cool

zealous venture
#

eh?

gloomy vine
#

Never been here

copper linden
#

Nice crib

latent rampart
lyric otter
#

It’s active now

nova leaf
devout path
#

Ok GUYS OWL

polar falcon
#

we all here niw

pseudo mica
#

what just happened

zealous venture
#

someone pinged?

lyric otter
#

Surprisingly

queen vault
balmy wolf
#

I got pinged 5 times

copper linden
#

DALLAS FUEL

stoic anchor
#

Why did I get pinged lol

worldly coyote
#

dude all of us are pinged

#

like

zealous venture
#

welcome everyone lol

lyric otter
#

Mads ping

polar falcon
#

TORONTO DEFIANT

devout path
#

WHOS EXCITED TO SEE DOHA SPARKLE DUO

#

Again

nova leaf
balmy wolf
#

who did it

stuck radish
#

san francisco shock 2022 CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!

worldly coyote
#

what happend

icy sand
#

w

lyric otter
#

I meant mass ping

balmy wolf
#

Uh who deleted my message

copper linden
#

DYNASTY

zealous venture
#

hey guys were watching contenders

nova leaf
north relic
gloomy vine
#

Aigjt time to leave and never come back again

balmy wolf
#

I’ll ping all the mods if nobody confesses

stuck radish
nova leaf
zealous venture
#

going on rn

balmy wolf
#

Who did it

nova leaf
balmy wolf
stoic anchor
#

Wtf you can ping everyone in here

zealous venture
#

its pretty fun ngl

cosmic apex
#

Pings bro

copper linden
#

JUSTICE

worldly coyote
#

stop the cap

raw ermine
#

what

devout path
north relic
keen abyss
#

dawg shut up

stuck radish
devout path
#

Moth ping gg

keen abyss
#

who pinged 7 times

zealous venture
#

awww yeah time

nova leaf
#

yes