esports-discussion

[raw ermine]

why gamble both. Why not just say one. It's much more likely one goes their than both.

[trail perch]

Cause im confident

[raw ermine]

Well I think that ksf will leave the Outlaws.

[tropic herald]

Proper to Atlanta

[raw ermine]

Normally I would say "reign can't be THAT rich", but since they just got 700k (so 350k) from coming 2nd, maybe not so crazy.

Ok my FR guess, tobi retires

[willow tartan]

don prize moni go to the players?

[raw ermine]

50% minimum

[willow tartan]

like 50% minimum prize money contract

[raw ermine]

since they are a company, they will do the minimum

thats why I said (so 350k)

[willow tartan]

i guess at minimum 350k

though it could mean less if players negotiated differently

idk if the reign players were expecting any big wins this szn

[digital cloud]

proper kai pelican would be insane

just replace gator with like, mag or something and you are golden

[north relic]

reign doesnt need another god dps though imo

[raw ermine]

imagine being on a 4 man dps line and being edison, and being the 4th dps lol. he'

d prolly leave tho

[willow tartan]

that was erster at the start of the season

erster/diem/lip/fleta

[north relic]

imagine being on a 5 dps line and being architect

[raw ermine]

sinatraa rascal striker ans architect

[willow tartan]

imagine being taiyo

[north relic]

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/2021-player-contract-status

this was last year btw

[trail perch]

when does that drop for this year

the offseason started and the only news we have is "our carry is back" from paris

Like please some team just drop their whole roster already

Titans??

Looking at you

LAV except for krystal

Nows ur move

NYXL going for another rebuild??

[raw ermine]

krystal kind sucks too, molanran better tbh

[trail perch]

ur wrong

factually incorrect

Krystal is in my heart as a top 5 hitscan in the league

He was just on an god awful team

just wait

[next mesa]

tfw ur stupid

[tawdry hamlet]

Ok he may have been better than his teammates but top 5 is a stretch

[next mesa]

Krystal is bottom 3

Here are the 3 hitscans worse than Krystal

Dalton

Linkzr

Mykaylee

[tawdry hamlet]

Colourhex Logix 😈

And probably im37 tbh

[next mesa]

bottom 5

[willow tartan]

what about jimmy

[next mesa]

id take im37 over krystal

and jimmy

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean as a person I like im37 more he's funny and bilingual like that Danny interview that one time loll, but Krystal is probably better 😈

[willow tartan]

how good is jimmy i havent watched him play

[tawdry hamlet]

Ask custa 😈

[next mesa]

jimmy is pretty cracked aim, smooth brain

[willow tartan]

krystal better than hybrid though right?

hybrid got demoted to tendies

if only we got valiant v spitfire

[next mesa]

i guess if u count hybrid

wow actually a lot of shit histcans in the league

krystal bottom 7 then

[worn falcon]

why mag, Gator is solid

[willow tartan]

bottom 7/top 20

how many hs are there in the league

[digital cloud]

well yeah, gator is pretty solid but there are better mts

maybe not really feasible to get a better one for Atlanta, idk

[next mesa]

more than 30

20*

id assume

also my off season prediction is aprita to chengdu WOW SO ORIGINAL

Lige actually plays this time

I wonder where yaki goes

[willow tartan]

diem return when

waiting for that...

[next mesa]

I could see justice

Yes carpe diem 🙏 cmon

[willow tartan]

^^^

[tawdry hamlet]

Lige to replace lateyoung could make Chengdu a super team 👀

[next mesa]

ayo fr

[willow tartan]

lmao imagine a dps rotation with carpe shockwave diem

[next mesa]

triple hitscan

gg

widow's gonna be lowkey good

in 5v5

[willow tartan]

diem pls come back

need someone to match ans next year

[next mesa]

I want Shy vs Ans

[trail perch]

nah they need a better MS sorry but yveltal is overrated

His mercy is one of the best ever

But lucio is very questionable

and brig is just ok

[north relic]

Yes but closer wins grand finals twice

[tawdry hamlet]

Yveltal and Nisha is enough imo

I mean Nisha yveltal mmonk farway is stacked

[north relic]

Nisha probably has a higher peak

[trail perch]

Twice?

[tawdry hamlet]

When else did he win besides London

Did he win a diff stage title?

[deep drift]

e

idk

srry

[north relic]

No I meant you predded closer to win his second grand finals

[willow tartan]

when yveltals not throwing

[next mesa]

Nisha yveltal so gud

[sullen berry]

You need more anime in your diet

[tacit skiff]

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/tsuna/status/1442916417536335879

Tsuna (@tsuna)

Helloo, je vous annonce notre équipe fun pour la LAN @espotparis

⚔️@Tsuna
⚔️@KayZzeR_OW
🛡️@BenBest_Ow
🛡️@Poko
💉@FDGod_OW
💉@dridroT_T

🧠@GetAmazed_ow

On se donne rendez-vous le 16 Octobre 2021 !
📍 150 Rue de Rivoli, 75001 Paris
https://t.co/Mi26GF9QLD

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Twitter · Sep 28, 2021, 6:17 PM

literally french worldcup team

"for fun|

its fdgod on ana time

[sullen berry]

Flex Diff God

[willow tartan]

new paris roster?

[fallen turret]

dude I feel bad for the valiant smm https://twitter.com/LAValiant/status/1426488606651129860

Los Angeles Valiant (@LAValiant)

We take a tough loss to @ChengduHunters with a 0:3.

We fought well! GGs!

#WingsOut #OWL2021

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Twitter · Aug 14, 2021, 10:19 AM

[willow tartan]

imagine kayz over soon

Wait who are they playing against?

[next mesa]

its literally just some fun LAN event in paris

soon is in valorant now

[tropic herald]

just realized fearless has finished 3rd two seasons in a row now

must feel tugh

[next mesa]

sadge

[wet oak]

I thought they would add the OWL Grand Finals spray into this update, but I guess not 🤷‍♂️

[next mesa]

eh not a big deal

NEXT UPDATE

[gusty rampart]

Get OniNaga and actually a goated fucking roster

Also 2 Main Supports?

[next mesa]

its just for the memes bro

[devout path]

Funi

[earnest leaf]

could be slime who lost two grand finals in a row

[gusty rampart]

Wish it was Mayhem Dragons

Then Slime would be out 3

Florida Mayhem got beasts like Yaki and BQB then some of the most mediocre players like Slime and OGE

[earnest leaf]

slime is just a mid brig

his lucio is solid though

[supple prism]

does anyone where i can easily see how accurate at predicting the OWL desk was?

[tawdry hamlet]

if I wasn't wasted I would so watch this apply stream with you @earnest leaf

but I can't even focus lmao

[earnest leaf]

sicko doing another 24hr

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah he woke up at 1pm accidentally

so he needs to fix his schedule

so 24 hours of season 3 bottom of the tier lists flex dps gameplay

I wonder if agilities is better or not

hmm

I love apply tho he funny af

[forest raven]

Good one

[balmy wolf]

nice photoshop

[tacit skiff]

wdym it's real

[worthy void]

funny joke

[tacit skiff]

haters say it's fake

[balmy wolf]

washington fans ewww

[round shadow]

justice: noo dont worry guys this 50th rebuild will definitely get top 3

[hot onyx]

Justice after they didn’t reach the expectation of being a top 5 team with a bottom tier support line and a winston otp

[north relic]

Mag is a budget fearless change my mind

[devout path]

I hate how everyone shits on the justice support line when they weren’t that bad

[balmy wolf]

yeah

decay is the problem

[devout path]

Trueing

Decay = bad

[north relic]

If you compare Bebe closer to the dps and tank line they seem trash

[devout path]

Stfu

[hot onyx]

Actually true but which support lines do you rate Closer-Bebe above?

[north relic]

Who were you replying to

[balmy wolf]

assasin xDDDDD

[devout path]

The scam

[balmy wolf]

the dps line is the worst

[north relic]

Not a scam it’s 100% free!1!!11!!

[balmy wolf]

decay off tracer is bad

[hot onyx]

Decay symm and reaper go left click

[devout path]

Not me trying to remember every support line

[balmy wolf]

he got caught so much

dead first every fight

[north relic]

Other than like the 3 failures and guangzhou you can’t really think of anything

[hot onyx]

Because he wasn’t getting healed by his backline 😎

Checkmate libtart

[devout path]

I’m just forgetting like half the teams in the league

[balmy wolf]

true he wasnt alone in the enemy team 1v6

[devout path]

I would’ve said Atlanta but they weren’t that bad towards the end of the season

[hot onyx]

Unironically you could put Closer-Bebe on Boston and it would be a heavy downgrade

[balmy wolf]

of course cause only half of ur brain functions

[devout path]

It would be

I put Boston support line very high

Myunbong is a pretty good fs and I have faith in faith

[balmy wolf]

faith is one of the best ms

[hot onyx]

Faith >

[devout path]

Woah woah woah

[balmy wolf]

his lucio could be better tho

[hot onyx]

Only good main supports names begin with F

[devout path]

Calm down

[devout path]

Moth

[balmy wolf]

friday ahahahaaha

[hot onyx]

Moth brig

[devout path]

Leejaegon

[hot onyx]

Fire

[devout path]

Fdgod

[north relic]

Justice is a bottom 5 support line

[balmy wolf]

hahahaha

[devout path]

I’m just gonna post this so I remember all the teams

[hot onyx]

When compared to other support lines it’s true

[devout path]

Justice support line > Seoul

[balmy wolf]

boston in a ahahahaaha

[hot onyx]

Not a chance, Creative is not that bad

[devout path]

Better than Toronto and mayhem this season too

[devout path]

Neither is bebe

[hot onyx]

Toronto yes but not Mayhem

[devout path]

Spark is a given

[hot onyx]

Bad season doesn’t mean bad players

[devout path]

You could say the same thing about the justice

[hot onyx]

Justice supports are only rated highly because they’re on a team with good players

Put ‘em on Charge or Defiant

[north relic]

Poo

[devout path]

I would’ve said nyxl but then I remembered jjonak is still good

[hot onyx]

See where that opinion stands

[devout path]

My opinion would’ve stayed the same as an upper mid tier support line

[hot onyx]

Off the goop

[devout path]

I think ranking players based off of the team’s performance and the teams coaching decisions is dumb

[balmy wolf]

jjonak is ass

[devout path]

Jjonak is still great what

[balmy wolf]

mid

[devout path]

Jjonak > myunbong tbh

[hot onyx]

JJ is upper mid

Not Bebe

[balmy wolf]

i want what u smoke

[devout path]

At least on ana/zen

[hot onyx]

Bebe Closer were signed as supports to play passively behind their “playmaker teammates”

Imagine Justice with like Sanguinaar Vigilante

Chiyo Finn

Unique Krillin

[balmy wolf]

no

finn to atlanta

[hot onyx]

Chorong Aimgod

Superrich Revenge

Also tf you want Finn for Marbel?

You got Iris

There’s literally like 4 players in OWL that would be considered an upgrade over Iris

[balmy wolf]

finn as backup for double fs

proper to complete the dps line

and mag/kellan for spicy dive tanks

so we gonna have kellan proper pelican iris masaa for dive

and gator kai proper iris masaa for poke +pelican instead of proper for brawl

and hawk for ot metas and finn for double fs

finn can also play brig like skewed

so we just dont lose next year basically

[north relic]

Still lose to shanghai starting five

[next mesa]

Jjonak is great

[balmy wolf]

who doesnt?

[north relic]

Nyxl

[next mesa]

What

[north relic]

Last dragons loss was from us😎

[next mesa]

Jjonak ana and zen mechanics top 3

Send that juicy booty to dynasty

[north relic]

Who else

[next mesa]

Lowkey #1

[north relic]

Alarm violet? Or izayaki

[next mesa]

Viol2t might rival zen

[tawdry hamlet]

anamo and creative easily better than bebe closer lmao wut

I would take them over toronto, washington, and boston support lines lolol

[forest raven]

I'd take Myunbong/Faith over Bebe/Closer

[hot onyx]

Heck I’d take a whacko hybrid of Kariv-Idk over Bebe-Closer

[next mesa]

Only support line I wouldn't take is the wya highbee roolf fire and kellex whatever

[hot onyx]

Ripa >

[raw ermine]

Someone legit decided to make this wtf lmao

fake, in case you can't tell

[final musk]

Lulz

No way that would fit a pattern of throwing more money at problems, right?

[digital cloud]

enough money does fix your problems if you are at least semi competent at throwing it around

you suck? buy a better player

still suck? buy a good coach

[fathom igloo]

don't do this to a justice fan

[next mesa]

Why would ljg leave

Yoink

[north relic]

I wouldn’t take kariv Mandu as well imo

[tepid ibex]

Yh

[next mesa]

When's halo

Gonna drop

Some owl juice bro

I'm thirsty asf

[gusty rampart]

????

Why would they do that

Washington Justice wet dream fanfic

[tacit skiff]

@MYUNBONGSZN on Twitter

[balmy wolf]

Hey can anyone be my trainer, im trying to get into my esports high school overwatch team, and i need a trainer dm me, its gunna be a couple hours till i can play, thx for helpin.

[willow tartan]

#old-gameplay-advice

[north relic]

I remember someone posting a seagull moon writing piece

[willow tartan]

One of you nerds posted that monstrosity here.

[north relic]

I think it was that fusion back line simp

[wet oak]

Dang! Started off the season with around 200 owl tokens. Ended it with around 2400!

[gusty rampart]

I want see how many I have made

I need to get a different platform to check

[mortal abyss]

lol

[wet oak]

I would have earned more if I watched the other streams for the east but I would have woken up at 2 am and lost so much sleep

[tacit skiff]

https://twitter.com/mizliz_/status/1443300822725582848?s=19

Liz Richardson (@mizliz_)

It begins.

The #OWL2021 rosterpocalypse kicks off this weekend (technically) and I'm ready with the internet's most comprehensive roster tracker. Small for now but it'll get real wild over the next month. Bookmark it. 🔖

https://t.co/tTyIGrY0ZS

Twitter · Sep 29, 2021, 7:45 PM

[stuck radish]

im ready to see half of OWL retire

[north relic]

felt like KSF retired months ago

[digital cloud]

half of owl fixing to go to apex legends or valorant

[tawdry hamlet]

Ksf 😭

I forgot babybay played half of last season

I wonder how the old veterans that all retired like babybay surefour etc stack up to current hitscans

[digital cloud]

they all get roflstomped

maybe babybay beats ans because he did that one time and ans has anxiety or something

only good hitscan that left that might actually be kinda ok is Corey, but I am thinking like low a tier, probably b

definitely they all look worse than any of the newer shinier models

[north relic]

diem

[digital cloud]

idk, he is probably bad now too

[north relic]

striker was a hitscan wasnt he

[tawdry hamlet]

Babybay wasn't too bad in his prime but surefour would be stomped I think. Idk about Corey he left early

[digital cloud]

unless diem has been a pro in another game

I said corey as an example since he went pro in another game, but it is much easier mechanically

if diem is pro in another game I guess maybe he might still be low a high b

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean babybay and Corey both play pro valorant, babybay is on faze

[digital cloud]

yeah but babybay was basically b tier

[tawdry hamlet]

Faze babybay sounds to weird to think about

[digital cloud]

not really, dude has the faze personality down pat

man ints his brains out and goes for clips

[north relic]

is godsb retired

i simp for nenne as well

[next mesa]

If Diem came back right now he'd still be S ngl

[tawdry hamlet]

Lft iirc but I haven't watched stream in a while

[next mesa]

genetics diff

[tawdry hamlet]

On widow only probably

[north relic]

mechanically yes i would say

[next mesa]

yes widow 1 trick obv

[digital cloud]

if diem hasn't been playing anything pro level then there is no way

if he is just living at home or in the military or some shit

[next mesa]

yes way its diem genetics diff

he could be grandpa

hasnt touched mouse for 20 years

still beat like half of owl hitscans

[tawdry hamlet]

I wish Logix could peak again that'd be funny. When Toronto played in s3 summer showdown he was fun to watch on Ashe before she was nerfed

[earnest leaf]

Hot take but babybay would still be solid on hard hitscans

maybe because all I remember about him from last season was him diffing ans on widow

[digital cloud]

ans absolutely wrecked him later by his own admission

[north relic]

its ans

[digital cloud]

apparently ans specifically started looking for him in ranked and beating him

not like, stream sniping but apparently he wanted to make sure babybay was no longer a problem for him

[noble nexus]

yeah ans is a menace

I wish we had a widow meta at some point this season so we could see him actually play his hero

[gusty saffron]

Yes! we are learning about coping strategies in my psychology class

I am finally prepared for when the Defiant play again next season!

[sinful gorge]

i feel like ans kinda threw a bit of that dorado game by swapping to widow imo

cus he got punished and got no value

[next mesa]

idk he got crazy value on widow

actually when he was on ashe he got abused couldnt play the game

[earnest leaf]

well chengdu hard focused him

gaga perma dove him

[gusty rampart]

He did more on Widow than he did on Ashe

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1443284300481302546?s=20

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

First time for everything, though this was throughly expected. My current understanding is that the Dallas Fuel are not expected to be making many changes this off season.

Dallas like what they have but they are still potentially in the market for another DPS player

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Twitter · Sep 29, 2021, 6:39 PM

[tropic herald]

This screams I want the team to fall off so bad

This is quite literally what Hangzhou did S2->3

[next mesa]

wtf would u upgrade

[raw ermine]

true, although unlike spark, dallas were actually cracked outta the fcking world

[next mesa]

like arguably MS but jecse synergy

[tropic herald]

Spark only finished 1 spot lower and they were cracked in relation to that season

[raw ermine]

not as cracked as dallas tbh, and yeah where else could you upgrade for dallas

[tropic herald]

They need either Xzi to come back or to sign a real hs

Ideally a main support that is better at brig

That’s two things but that’s still more than this team is looking to go for rn

[next mesa]

but spark wasnt even close to like

getting a tourney win

dallas were like borderline contenders

one move might just push them to the top

idk and its 5v5

maybe they are just looking to see how it goes

[earnest leaf]

Dallas legit just need more depth at dps

[tropic herald]

Ok maybe the Spark thing doesn’t translate perfectly but this feels like such a bad decision

[earnest leaf]

But like who do you upgrade besides jecse

And would upgrading him even be worth it

[tropic herald]

Idk I feel like they really need a hitscan

[earnest leaf]

Xzi

[tropic herald]

If Xzi can come back that would be ideal

[earnest leaf]

I thinl he will

[tropic herald]

He’s testing limits in tendies iirc

[earnest leaf]

Doing t2 for now, then jump back into owl

[tropic herald]

To see if he feels safe to play

[next mesa]

i also have faith in the coaching staff to pick pine out of all the other people that tried out

[north relic]

hot take: pine time is back

[willow tartan]

xzi is mercing in contenders

[digital cloud]

maybe get xzi or proper

[next mesa]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/pxpvbk/coach_moon_twitch_qna/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Fits have moon stamp of Approval

Okay guys inspired by reddit

Who are your mount Rushmore

Of OW1

I would go super, jehong, profit, fleta

[north relic]

i would put space honestly

super space profit fleta maybe

who do you think when you think overwatch league

[digital cloud]

not sure how you could not think of jehong and jjonak as being there

probably choi or smurf

maybe carpe or profit

probably the greatest teams of all of ow1 though

I would argue that while they wouldn't be as good now, that Shock and Titans are probably deserving as the greatest ow1 teams of all time

so really any of their members I guess would count as well

[next mesa]

Greatest teams era

Lunatic Hai and then Titans and Shock and then dragons

[digital cloud]

true, I think lumping in Lunatic Hai and dragons makes sense

[next mesa]

Overlap

[digital cloud]

maybe EM for good measure honestly

also kinda want to put in runaway

[next mesa]

Yes

Someone make a timeline

[digital cloud]

Titans, Shock, Lunatic Hai, runaway, Shanghai, EM, maybe nyxl, and that is all

not gonna add any more

no sir

I think the various members of those teams have had pretty much every player I consider a legend or a goat personally

[worn falcon]

Carpe pls

[digital cloud]

people may be mad about that precluding carpe or profit but I don't care

lol just saw it

Philly bad lmao

[worn falcon]

Heck u

If i go for like each role would be like: Super, Choi, Carpe, Fleta, Jjonak, Twilight

Im torn on OT tho

[digital cloud]

I suppose I am thinking more of legacy plus how good they were at the time

[worn falcon]

There is Choi, Void, Hanbin, Space, Hawk

[digital cloud]

cuz I would definitely have to have Ryujehong personally, even though a lot of people don't like him now

[worn falcon]

Super, Space, Carpe, Profit/Rascal, Jjonak, Ryujehongsexy

[digital cloud]

for me personally mt has to be smurf or fearless and ot has to be choi

[worn falcon]

Mano and Gesture left a legacy too

[digital cloud]

dps is kinda hard cuz I am not all that attached to dps

[worn falcon]

As monke main

[digital cloud]

yeah, mano as well

I think you could take just about anyone from the teams I listed and have a good case for their impact

you know, from when they were good

[worn falcon]

Nenne grav ez impact

[tropic herald]

Miro Jjonak Super Fleta

[worn falcon]

Lip not the ace lol

[tropic herald]

Tbf in their ball comp

LIP is def not the ace

[worn falcon]

Miro pepehands

[willow tartan]

FYI, Moon is a ManUtd fan

[trail perch]

I would just take the GOATS

Profit, Jehong, Mano

Then 2 just faces

So Super and Fleta

[next mesa]

Si si

[fallen turret]

Super jake custa krystal

[earnest leaf]

I forget super is the last NA main tank in the league

I think he is at least

Could change if some t2 ones pop in next year

[trail perch]

gator

[earnest leaf]

ah forgot about him

[next mesa]

bruh 🗿

[tropic herald]

🗿

[gusty rampart]

bruh

[somber latch]

Personally
Super(as the face of owl)
Tracer(idk if its allowed but literally the face of ow1)
profit(for being one of the only people who won apex and owl who is still relevant as one of the best players rn)
and daddy jeff

[gusty rampart]

Soe, Danny Lim, Reinforce, and Custa

Danny Lim is very goated

for faces of OWL players

super, Space, Sp9rk1e, and Jake

[tiny pollen]

super profit jonak

[balmy wolf]

FUSIN IT TO WIN IT 2022

[gusty rampart]

Absolutely NOT

you understand how things work?

Fusion makes playoffs. then chokes.

The never ending loop

[balmy wolf]

im a newbie to OWL 😳

[gusty rampart]

Fusion will disappoint

[balmy wolf]

nah man

they're fusion

not

fusioff

😳

[tawdry hamlet]

ok earlier essenza got mad because sans said mano isn't super team material anymore but I thought about that randomly and realized even as a philly believer I wouldn't put mano in top 5 so if he isn't even top 5 rn then how is he super team material

also imo jjonak washed profit overrated

ok hot takes given

[gusty rampart]

JJoNaK isn't washed

If you watch his plays he did great

he just got a really bad team

[worn falcon]

Decay overrated

[tawdry hamlet]

not washed I just think he is peaking far lower than he used to, like he doesn't hit the super clutch sleep, or the super goated nades anymore, he just heals

and yeah I think decay is easily above average but overrated

although I rate him and carpe on tracer the same kek

also jerry underrated

Jerry is literally bqb 2.0 he just hasn't been able to show it

hey if you guys are bored I have been watching old owl series looking for standout games and I found a standout from summer showdown that is pretty good map 5 series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfARZ8hl0w

from season 3

the babybay edison vs agilities logix duel was sick

also atlanta played fire all series

so you get to see pre titans fire kek

[forest raven]

super is the 2nd best main tank in the world

That's my hot take

[somber latch]

maybe on rein

but not everyone else

[forest raven]

Well he's the best in the world on rein, not 2nd best

[earnest leaf]

1st being fate?

[forest raven]

Yes

[earnest leaf]

I always rated fate highly

especially last year

glad to see a team could finally utilize him

[forest raven]

Only main tank to play all 4 main tanks at a consistently high level this year

[earnest leaf]

tbf this year we didn't see much of his rein

but from last season it was solid

[forest raven]

Yeah he only played like 2 hours of rein the whole season

[next mesa]

He played a good amount in may melee no?

[forest raven]

Yeah 90 minutes of his 120 minutes of rein was in may melee

No wait

That's wrong

He had 90 minutes across the regular season, and like 22 minutes in the MM playoffs

[earnest leaf]

God I want split regions to die for owl

[forest raven]

Same

[earnest leaf]

It would stop the apac vs NA debate

which is cancer

[forest raven]

I agree

But

APAC is better

[earnest leaf]

apac can be better when they have more than 1 team that wins anything

[forest raven]

[earnest leaf]

Chengdu just does their best philly impression

[forest raven]

Yveltal

[earnest leaf]

chengdu would be so good if they had a second dps that plays more than two heroes

or if their team did more besides sit back and watch leave kill 6

[forest raven]

Aprita aprita aprita aprita

[stuck radish]

i mean jinmu is pretty good

[earnest leaf]

on pharah and sombra yea

Off of those he's nothing special

[last nimbus]

Jinmu isnt the problem lmao

Leave had such a wide hero pool it doesnt matter jinmu can only play 2 or 3 characters

[earnest leaf]

Never said he was the problem

But I do think his inflexibility doesn't help

Because imagine if they had a top tier tracer to play alongside leave

so leave could roll people on echo

[balmy wolf]

how is apac better lmao

[forest raven]

Because I said so

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk tbh I say na is better but then think in my head hmm Boston Toronto Houston Paris vs Hz Gz Seoul Nyxl and they honestly seem even lmaoo

[last nimbus]

La valiant

Charge

Honestly pretty sad charge got robbed of their players like that

they lost shu nero and happy

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah free agency did them dirty and then mykayleee turned out to be as bad as the team he came from

He was on one of the worst teams in t2

And he looked good at first

Then boom dogshit

[last nimbus]

yeah..

[tawdry hamlet]

Mandu was better than nothing but far from good

Kariv is ass

Washed af

[last nimbus]

Eileen is good

[tawdry hamlet]

And Eileen choisehwan can only carry so hard when Rio sucks ass and chrong is just solid A tier

[last nimbus]

Im pretty new to owl ngl, when do the new rosters get announced for next season

I believe this year they got announced in januari

[keen abyss]

i think for rushmore i'd do fearless/super jjonak striker profit

feels like a crime not including fleta though

wasn't striker insane

[forest raven]

Striker is the best tracer in ow history

[keen abyss]

i feel like striker has been criminally undermentioned here

best player on the hero who is the face of the game, and also the best dps hero in the league

nah actually fuck fearless and super

fearless wasn't even the best main tank on fuel

xqc best main tank in OWL history

😍

[keen abyss]

striker leave duo let’s goo

grand finals just off the back of that duo

[tawdry hamlet]

unironically if chengdu get striker they are a super team

that would be crazy

jinmu leave striker

pick up striker and lige

[keen abyss]

ok but if gladiators get me I 1v2 striker and leave every time and win easily

as lucio

moth benched again

[forest raven]

Lige on Chengdu

Leave/Aprita/Lige

[trail perch]

Y’all sleeping on some pretty obvious moves

LiGe, Diya, Ga9a, Farway, Superrich, Innovation to Vanc

Obviously

[forest raven]

If you think Vancouver is gonna throw bags at Lige and Gaga

[trail perch]

They’ve done it before

S2 and 3

Dropped massive bags for all star talent

Season 4 they had to go budget

[forest raven]

[trail perch]

Cause they basically spent 2 seasons with of money in just s3

But I’m honestly excepting them to spend again

Ow2 is coming out, teams r going to put in more effort

And Vanc def has the budget cause of last year

A lot of 50k salaries

[sullen berry]

50.7k

[north relic]

Vancouver signs ljg mag yaki heesu gnj qoq

[obsidian condor]

스우파 노제가 짱이다!!

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/fusion/status/1443537447753707524?s=21

Philadelphia Fusion (@Fusion)

As we part ways with @Mobydik_ow today, We’d like thank him for everything he’s done for the Fusion for the past seasons.

Thank you for the loving leadership—always keeping our heads cool and our hearts warm.


 We wish you the best of luck in the next chapter of your career!

Likes

412

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 11:25 AM

[forest raven]

Noob down

[north relic]

And it begins

[hot onyx]

As long as they rebuild around Carpe Alarm and Fastro they have a solid chance

[north relic]

So only people from last year

[hot onyx]

I’d be more than happy to include sHockWave and Hotba but as long as those core 3 are resigned they can be title contenders with the right rebuild

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1443506349434867713?s=19

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the Florida Mayhem are allowing Head Coach Dae-Kuk “Kuki” Kim the opportunity to explore his options for next season

Likes

326

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 9:21 AM

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1443561243164434436

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the Philadelphia Fusion have allowed support player Daniel “Funnyastro” Hathaway the opportunity to test free agency.

However, multiple sources state the Fusion remain very interested in seeing him return to the team for 2022.

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 12:59 PM

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1443487146325708801

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, the New York Excelsior will be making a number of coaching changes this off season.

Likes

489

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 8:05 AM

[next mesa]

ABOUT TIME

Build around Flora gwangboong

Oh my god kuki to seoul

Makes sense if they're going for AT they will get redbirds coach

[digital cloud]

get all this halo shit out of my face

this guy was supposed to quit reporting after that debacle

[worn falcon]

What

He asked if want to report, so he report

Because people were thirsty for owl news

And it's a long ass off season

[digital cloud]

just him dodging his promise, he was supposed to leave after screwing up the third impact report

[next mesa]

Bro thank god he didnt

I love me some halo

Besides that shit was like 99% confirmed but titans pussied out

I need that owl off season juice

[digital cloud]

yeah, most people do, but he chickened out after doubling down and being wrong

if you are gonna make a stupid bet like that, either get it right or follow through

[worn falcon]

Meh

[digital cloud]

I am, as you can see, still bitter about this

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1443579441804763148?s=19

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

Nope!

Budget mode was due to the pandemic https://t.co/VHf2sYyYZL

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

Thank god maybe we see real teams this year

Vancouver n Valiant looking at you to pay your players

[north relic]

Funnyastro to reign pred looking good

[balmy wolf]

ez

i dont miss

[north relic]

What did you say

[balmy wolf]

that astro would return to reign

[north relic]

I also said that lol

[balmy wolf]

chad

[tacit skiff]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1443578845290897422?s=19

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

Z

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 2:09 PM

Xzi?

[tropic herald]

Zest

[tiny pollen]

astro to shock

[tacit skiff]

https://twitter.com/shdw_shock/status/1443456488970752002?s=19

shadow (@shdw_shock)

According to multiple sources, the Shanghai Dragons are expected to pick up Hadi “Hadi” Bleinagel from the London Spitfire in exchange for their entire roster.

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 6:03 AM

real btw

Funnyastro + Myunbong

I'd like to see it

[wide minnow]

Next month we have contenders?

I mean October month

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/FunnyAstro/status/1443582491428679688

FunnyAstro (@FunnyAstro)

On Oct 9 my current contract expires and I become a free agent. This doesn't mean I'm leaving Fusion for sure, but I would like to look at all of my options and hear offers from other OWL teams.

Interested parties should reach out to @rostonyoo before contacting me!

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

[raw ermine]

nah, he recently tweeted the letter X as well

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1443553105824653315

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

X

Likes

123

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 12:27 PM

[tropic herald]

So he tweeted an X and then only tweeted about fusion and then tweeted a Z

Xzi to fusion

[bronze scroll]

we will see. But I am ready for any announcement. whatever it may be. Just hope it will be ones i like.

[worn falcon]

xzi to contenders

[tacit skiff]

why does colourhex look like that

[bronze scroll]

if im correct, Fuel still hold the contract rights for Xzi for the next season though. So keep that in mind

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1443594724309409796?s=20

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

I!

Is NA Contenders prepared to die?

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 3:12 PM

[worn falcon]

i mean, NA Contenders XZI

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1443598510994100231

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

According to multiple sources, former Dallas Fuel DPS Ki-Hyo “Xzi” Jung will be playing in the upcoming North American Contenders tournament for @Solaris_GG

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 3:28 PM

[tiny pollen]

lmao

rip

[hot onyx]

pls stay

[trail perch]

LMAO

Xzi gets free contenders dubs

Then gets signed to Dallas and plays Ashe widow with Pine and just wins owl

[gusty rampart]

Halo with the Fusion Tea today

[gusty rampart]

They had coaches?

[trail perch]

Bring back Pavane

Wait

Poach crusty

Or Kuki?

Grab kuki and start the runaway rebuild with diff DPS

Replace jjonak with twilight

Make it happen

Or what if they keep yakpung and kalios and go the o2 route?

Vindaim FiNN

O2 boss and Chillhwa coches

Coaches*

[gusty rampart]

Listen

Hear me out

For OW2

NYXL S Tier

Tanks have never been their focus

So they can pop off

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/solaris_gg/status/1442903486379663367?s=21

Solaris (@Solaris_GG)

Wrong answers only. Who do we think this is? 🤔

Twitter · Sep 28, 2021, 5:26 PM

There he is

[forest raven]

Huge

[trail perch]

Who is slrspare2 then…

It’s has to be someone not on the current roster

Cause it’s “spare”

[tacit skiff]

na contenders? xzi?
finally something interesting for the Uprising Academy

[tropic herald]

Who didn’t take a map in finals last month ,,,

[raw ermine]

solaris spare prolly. XZI

[trail perch]

Xzi is 1

Who is 2

[jagged viper]

xzi puts eyes on Twitter

https://twitter.com/xzi_ow/status/1443603817908502537?s=21

Xzi (@xzi_ow)

👀 https://t.co/smsL4KhwGx

Likes

276

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 3:49 PM

to the halo tweet

[north relic]

Never tank focused

-top three in goats

[gusty rampart]

Well since role queue

[mortal abyss]

Rip mobydik

[north relic]

Jjonak gets to one trick zen again in ow2

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/brokengjh-arcade-craniacs-gif-21640699

[next mesa]

Yoo

[tacit skiff]

https://twitter.com/lovefoolishhs/status/1443615212335255560?s=19

alex (@lovefoolishhs)

According to multiple sources, the San Francisco Shock have allowed tank player Matthew “Super” Delisi the opportunity to explore your mom

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 4:34 PM

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1443610331109072901?s=20

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

Xzi will not be going back to Dallas. Most likely be signed by an APAC team. https://t.co/RbjO7OuyoI

Likes

139

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 4:14 PM

[plush grail]

nyxl

[hot onyx]

Charge

Xzi ChoiSehWan Cr0ng Belosrea Unique Vigilante

Y’all don’t need leakers when you got me 😎

[plush grail]

who needs a leaker when we have a delusional dumbass

[hot onyx]

Bit rude to smack talk Halo like that

[plush grail]

[wicked pendant]

Ah fuck I was in a work meeting and burst out laughing

[willow tartan]

xz to charge sounds likely if he's going apac

or maybe he's part of the Valiant rebuild

[trail perch]

LAV is going CN

[north relic]

If valiant isn’t complete shit xzi should go

[fair abyss]

halo said this chinese valiant is a one time thing, so maybe they'll build a decent roster for next season

[north relic]

Custa goes back to valiant so he can play ow2 early

[next mesa]

If xzi going to charge where's diya going 😢

[raw ermine]

to work in retail LUL

[next mesa]

sadge

[plush grail]

why do u simp so much for diya

[next mesa]

I just think its kinda insane that he literally ground pounded contenders china for a whole year and isnt signed

[plush grail]

yeah but like

only 3 teams have chinese players

they do get overlooked a lot

[balmy wolf]

china is ass

just like luigis butt

[plush grail]

please

get a life

stop being a ratlanta fan

sober up

[balmy wolf]

how about no

[plush grail]

also ur name

lily just died

she never posts here anymore

[north relic]

boston died so she died

[plush grail]

rest in piss

[next mesa]

rip lily

🙏 🙏

[plush grail]

when will i die

soon

[north relic]

soon left paris

[plush grail]

i will leave u

[north relic]

ty

[plush grail]

jk

[plush grail]

im not gonna leave

im not like xzi

or soon

or la valiant

[next mesa]

https://esportsawards.com/vote/

support owl talent 🤞

[north relic]

why only reinforce there

are there any console players in owl

[earnest leaf]

No

OWL requires people to play on kb&m

[north relic]

why

ig crossplay

[mortal abyss]

Get UKalex in OWL right now smh

[north relic]

are there any mobile owl players

[bronze turtle]

how?

[mortal abyss]

There should be an Ow mobile app where you can watch replays, buy cosmetics etc

[bronze turtle]

ow isn't on mobile

[north relic]

im an overwatch mobile gamer 😎

[bronze turtle]

wat

[worn falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

In any case, we got at least some owl stuff we already knew

almost everyone free agent with possibility to return to their team

wonder if Boston gonna drop Chex and Fusions

who were benched all the season

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/ow_nero/status/1443674655315791875?s=21

nero (@ow_nero)

@SFShock ok you’ll have to wait a little for my hair to grow out

Likes

262

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 8:30 PM

Off season content

[north relic]

when is super uploading im bored

or when is akshon analyzing playoffs

[hot onyx]

Correct you’re not a talented player whose team scrapped him to go budget mode

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/leo-angry-mad-gif-14524476

[hot onyx]

Stay mad 🚽

[gusty rampart]

Why wouldn't they scrap Doha

[north relic]

sombra sounds op in ow2

[gusty rampart]

??

[somber latch]

watching ans play pathfinder in apex is slightly triggering

i have no clue if i can say this here

[dark hedge]

why does boston still have colourhex

[tawdry hamlet]

🥝🥝🥝

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/ow_yaki/status/1443709415262089224?s=21

Yaki (@OW_Yaki)

😔😥

Likes

430

Twitter · Sep 30, 2021, 10:48 PM

[tawdry hamlet]

[next mesa]

oh no

yeah hes switchin

[noble nexus]

it'll be weird to see him play on a team that isn't florida and probably without bqb but he deserves are a spot on a better team tbh

[worthy void]

were 2019 finals close (not looking at the 4-0)

like were the maps close

[noble nexus]

yo whoever ghost pinged me

I fucked your dad

[trail perch]

yes

the closest 4-0 in literally history

I would say that was the series that the winning team who swept was closest to losing

because 3 of those maps could have gone the other way very easily

[worthy void]

oh wow

was lijiang the only "bad" map?

[earnest leaf]

It wasn't that close

Titans played a couple maps tightly, but shock were in control the whole time

Kinda like shd's 3-0 vs shock in the playoffs

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/ggHarsha/status/1443762844189794306?s=20

harsha (@ggHarsha)

Earlier this week, I submitted my two weeks notice and intend to retire from team-side work in OWL. I felt my passion for working in esports waning throughout the season and I don't think it's right to lead without genuine enthusiasm.

Twitter · Oct 1, 2021, 2:21 AM

[earnest leaf]

Shock played it close at times but you knew shd was in control each map

goodbye harsha

Maybe no harsha will help things

Considering the only team he was on that performed really well was titans

[next mesa]

idk 2019 finals like

shock had control

pretty much the whole way

like maybe their butt was clinching like every few min but they certainly wasnt stressing that much yk

[earnest leaf]

that was fast

[fallen turret]

What teams are gonna dump their roster this year?

[earnest leaf]

valiant most likely

atm possibly florida

[next mesa]

mayhem

seoul

who else

probably charge

[gusty rampart]

NYXL maybe

[next mesa]

yep

[earnest leaf]

oh yea Seoul was gonna re-build

[fallen turret]

Wait why?

[next mesa]

i think the only like teams that we can say aren't gonna make any dramatic rebuilds beside like 1-2 additions

[gusty rampart]

Their coach wasn't impressed

[earnest leaf]

Failure to achieve any meaningful performance for three seasons

[next mesa]

@fallen turret because their coach,, tank, and support line is dogwater

are*

[earnest leaf]

best they did was getting to grand finals off a weird meta

[fallen turret]

True

[gusty rampart]

keep profits dump the rest

[next mesa]

yes

sign jjonak

[gusty rampart]

yes.

[next mesa]

okay so basically

[earnest leaf]

inb4 seoul signs lastro slime

[fallen turret]

Lol sbb is still on that team

I forgot

[worthy void]

in 4 the nyxl anime redemption arc

[next mesa]

Dragons, Fuel, probably Chengdu, shock, and ATL I don't think they will make aggressive rebuilds

[next mesa]

better than anamo

[fallen turret]

Nyxl probs won’t make too many changes

[gusty rampart]

Anamo is okay

[earnest leaf]

wasn't anamo just mid tier this season

[gusty rampart]

and last year

[next mesa]

Anamo was trash this season

honestly he just looked worse and worse as every season goes on

[gusty rampart]

eh he was okay

[next mesa]

his brig is terrible

[gusty rampart]

very true

[next mesa]

his lucio heal bot

like MS has transitioned

into where u need to do playmaking

[gusty rampart]

better than Friday

[next mesa]

but he's stuck in like 2017

eh that's debatable

[tiny pollen]

profit to shock

[next mesa]

as if

u know what sure

as long as we get striker

[earnest leaf]

nah profit to shock would be bad

[tiny pollen]

no hes gone

[earnest leaf]

Shock loves rush

profit mei is very sad

[fallen turret]

I wonder what Toronto does

[next mesa]

wonder which team striker will go

probably back to shock

if im being honest

[gusty rampart]

prob shock

[fallen turret]

Striker to valiant

[earnest leaf]

So shock next season is potentially Glister/Striker/Ans

[next mesa]

if valiant signs 800 diya innovation superich and yoink 1987 off chengdu

[gusty rampart]

Ans might retire

[earnest leaf]

Since it seems nero wants to retire

[next mesa]

perhaps

[earnest leaf]

Ans retiring is the same as super retiring

we don't really know

[gusty rampart]

a lot of Shock players probably will retire

[next mesa]

I dont see Ans retiring

second year in the league

he's just chilling right now

[earnest leaf]

Both could very easily stay

[gusty rampart]

especially after the harassment

[next mesa]

Making bank

harassment?

[gusty rampart]

Super will most likely stay

Mostly Nero was constantly dumpstered on

[tiny pollen]

zero way super retires

[next mesa]

at worse he'll be a streamer for NRG

[gusty rampart]

They always blamed him for losses

[tiny pollen]

they blamed fdgod and nero

[gusty rampart]

FDGod to Paris

[earnest leaf]

Honestly shock doesn't need to make many changes

[fallen turret]

I feel like Toronto/spark/charge/Boston could basically do anything and no one would care

[earnest leaf]

I would seriously keep everyone

maybe get another coach though

[gusty rampart]

The tank lineup for Shock will most likely be Super/Choi

That'd be a beastly lineup

[tropic herald]

you know what player every team needs

[gusty rampart]

LIP

[tropic herald]

except like shanghai

PROPER

[fallen turret]

Krystal

[earnest leaf]

Shanghai is going to sign proper and never play him

[next mesa]

that's honestly like small percentage of "fans" that have no brain

[tropic herald]

shanghai pls dont sign proper

[gusty rampart]

"fans"

[tropic herald]

i want to see proper in a real game

[next mesa]

shanghai about to sign every big free agent

[tropic herald]

not rot on the bench w develop

[next mesa]

just to make the best scrim team that their team can practice against

ggwp

[tropic herald]

also i think if philly stays apac then xzi -> philly

[trail perch]

I think shanghai's goal is to sign specialists

[gusty rampart]

I feel like APAC just felt the need to take all of NYXL's players

[next mesa]

w carpe?

cuz carpe never leaving

[trail perch]

Maybe one or 2 people who just roll on specific heros

[next mesa]

unless he retires

[tropic herald]

carpe retire 🥱

[gusty rampart]

yes

[next mesa]

bro carpe plz no retire

get a ring man

[earnest leaf]

Carpe deserves better

[next mesa]

at least win a title

cmonnn

[trail perch]

Maybe shanghai gets a rein otp?

[next mesa]

Carpe come to seoul

we will help u

[tropic herald]

shanghai sign bumper

[next mesa]

although we dont need u at all

[earnest leaf]

shd don't need a rein otp

[tropic herald]

bumper + leejaegon

[earnest leaf]

Fate is plenty for rein

[tropic herald]

_pogt

[next mesa]

if only shanghai can sign fearless

[gusty rampart]

Seoul the way Levy talks about sounds goated

[tropic herald]

fate is the most well rounded main tank in the league

[trail perch]

Shanghai is going to sign more ppl, so they would prob sign specialists

[tropic herald]

hes the main tank you want

[fallen turret]

Valiant form benchgod team

[gusty rampart]

Very true

[trail perch]

Ppl to sub in on one or 2 heros

And just roll

[next mesa]

only way u can make shanghai better is to sign fearless

[willow tartan]

wheres that funny image that someone posted before with super in a dragons jersey

[next mesa]

bro u have that in our dms

dum

[willow tartan]

i dont dm anyone here

[next mesa]

try to make a roster that's better than shanghai+fearless

u cant

[willow tartan]

fate > fearless

[trail perch]

Or what if they signed like sp9rk1e and put him in perma doom genji jail

[tropic herald]

shanghai + fearless + proper

[earnest leaf]

Shanghai would have to offer super a very large sum of money to maybe get him

[trail perch]

that would be a better roster

[next mesa]

that was danxv nvm

[trail perch]

specialists allow everyone to pop off on their own heros

[next mesa]

thats what they signed whoru for doe for a similar role

[trail perch]

and thats prob the best way for shanghai to stay #1 no matter waht

[willow tartan]

its just in case there ever is a summer showdown meta

[trail perch]

yeah but htey actually need to play him

[willow tartan]

why do they need to play him

[trail perch]

or rely on him

[willow tartan]

when is genji ever good

[tropic herald]

whoru goat

[next mesa]

yeah but they dont need him if its not a genji doom meta

[fallen turret]

Taiyo sbb rapel moth dreamer marvel

[trail perch]

cause first off doom and second off for distruption strats

[next mesa]

he's only there for a genji doom meta tbh or double projectile

[willow tartan]

are you doubting whoru's skill as an owl player

[trail perch]

I was challenged to create a better roster

Sp9rk1e>Whoru

Not even close

[next mesa]

fearless is just pretty significant upgrade on winston and rein

but otherwise

[willow tartan]

we dont know cause whoru havent play at all

only speculation

[trail perch]

Yes he did

He played echo

[next mesa]

yeah I agree sparkle better but as a team

[trail perch]

Pharah

[willow tartan]

he played like 1 map bro

stfu

[trail perch]

ummmmm

I think pharah twice

[next mesa]

no matter what u put around sparkle

they're not beating the dragons

even if they have to play like a hard genji meta

[trail perch]

unless its sp9rk1e+dragons...

imagine Sp9rk1e lip Genji sombra dive

[next mesa]

no i was challenging

[trail perch]

With Fearless and void

[willow tartan]

that would require a genji sombra meta which i dont want to imagine

[trail perch]

summer showdown APAC

[next mesa]

make a roster against dragons+fearless like u cant use those players is what i meant

[trail perch]

Ohhhhh

Umm

I got this

[next mesa]

summer showdown apac had no sombra iirc

[trail perch]

Shanghai

did sombra genji dive

and in CC