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[tiny pollen]

london had one of the hardest sos

[earnest leaf]

I don't watch any contenders

it's just boring

[tiny pollen]

agreed

[earnest leaf]

If I want to watch shitter teams play i'll low tier owl teams play lmao

[trail perch]

Just watch korean contenders

those teams could prob win owl

[tiny pollen]

this is even less of a storyline in contenders than owl

[trail perch]

I unironically think o2 could take shanghai to 7

[tiny pollen]

if i want to watch ow i will watch a youtuber or past owl vods

[trail perch]

and talon and t1 probably could do the same

yall just dont keep up then

cause the storylines r better

Like stellars redemption in NA

Or QoQs

AT being torn apart etc.

In KR we have Proper

Who has finally been unleashed

Zest who managed to escape OZ and is now a top fdps

the new kids on the block talon esports

with insane talent on every role

And the ever consistant titans of o2 blast

[earnest leaf]

I don't trust people's t2 preds anymore

[trail perch]

Why?

[earnest leaf]

I will see it if they pound in owl

[trail perch]

Most of them come true lmao

[earnest leaf]

I've been let down too many times

[trail perch]

By whoom?

[earnest leaf]

many people

[trail perch]

R0ar?

Thats literally it

lmao

Other hyped KR contenders players all pop off in owl

[north relic]

you think o2 is better than skewed shu muze space kevster birdring?

[trail perch]

Oh yeah prob

[tiny pollen]

didnt u say washington was gonna be good in playoffs

[earnest leaf]

Basically I just want to see them pop in owl before I come to a conclusion on them

[trail perch]

I think proper is better player than that whole team

[earnest leaf]

Like I was told mag was going to be a top 2 mt this year

[trail perch]

FiNN can def go even with shu

vindaim is a great match for skewed and moth

[trail perch]

he was great tho lmao

His monke was top tier

[tiny pollen]

mag is awful

[earnest leaf]

He was a hard winston otp for 90% of the season

[tiny pollen]

literally a two trick

[trail perch]

and his rein in SS and onwards was top tier

[trail perch]

you mean 50%?

[tiny pollen]

put mag on ball and hes worse than hadi

[earnest leaf]

Even then once his rein looked better he got hard gapped by gator

[trail perch]

Dont forget summer showdown VS glads Paris and Dallas

[trail perch]

that was one match before they got good that stage

cause it was their first match

[earnest leaf]

Did you forget justice played reign in the playoffs

and mag got layed out off cooldown

[trail perch]

I think that was more of an overall team strat diff

[earnest leaf]

Also beating paris in rush doesn't mean much

[trail perch]

then a mag diff

Atlanta also made grand finals

[earnest leaf]

ATL made GF because 4 teams decided to rush mirror every map

[trail perch]

and seems like they knew what they wanted to play much better

[earnest leaf]

and they got shit stomped in the finals anyways

[trail perch]

yeah but they made it there

[earnest leaf]

Yea and seoul did as well last season

[trail perch]

Seoul diff cause meta

we didnt have a wacky playoffs meta

[tiny pollen]

spark have you seen mags ball

[trail perch]

Yes, both in contenders, open scrims and in owl

most things arent his fault lmao

[tiny pollen]

they are his fault

[earnest leaf]

I will say this

[trail perch]

He was running with countdown cup assassin sombra

[earnest leaf]

I will give mag a second chance next year

[trail perch]

bebe and closer supports

[novel owl]

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[earnest leaf]

Because while he did underperform at times, his backline was depressing

[trail perch]

Yeah he underperformed at times

and also overperformed

at times

He looked incredible for having closer bebe backline

Mag was very much not a flop

He was a top 3 rein and a top 3 monkey

[earnest leaf]

Not a top 3 rein

[trail perch]

fearless's ball and orisa where just as depressing dont forget

Yes he def was

He was number one on every stat

[earnest leaf]

I'd take super/gator/fearless/jjanggu on rein over him

[trail perch]

and singlehandedly changed games

Who youd "take" doesnt change facts

[earnest leaf]

Stats don't mean everything

[trail perch]

Super isnt close to mag on rein lmao

[earnest leaf]

#1 rein got big dicked by gator

[trail perch]

so did super and fearless...

[earnest leaf]

super is definitely a stronger rein than mag

[trail perch]

Sure buddy

[earnest leaf]

also super hard gapped gator on rein lmao

[trail perch]

whatever u say

[earnest leaf]

nah you actually watch a different league

[trail perch]

in what fucking world

Lmao

Did shock make grand finals in ur world as well?

[earnest leaf]

You're actually trolling

[noble nexus]

You thought justice were gonna win playoffs so your opinion is invalid regardless

[earnest leaf]

Bro mag got rein gapped by fucking oge even at one point

[trail perch]

I literally said when i submitted my bracket "this is the 0.05% chance"

[trail perch]

When OGE was good lmao

[earnest leaf]

copium

[trail perch]

theres no point arguing with yall

u watched a different league

[noble nexus]

Honestly

[earnest leaf]

Contenders simps in a nutshell

[noble nexus]

Mag wasn’t bad at all

[north relic]

idk whoever says this must be mentally insane

[earnest leaf]

shd would have 4-0ed any OW team currently playing

4-1 worst case scenario

[north relic]

you could play smurf,hanbin,leave,shy,shu,funnyastro and it would be a 4-0

[noble nexus]

Nah bro I think the shock had a really good chance

3peat guys!!!

[north relic]

playoffs profit will carry seoul to grand finals

[willow tartan]

six best players in the league

[next mesa]

No way O2 takes Shanghai to 7 lol

[next mesa]

If he had a competent team yes 😌

[willow tartan]

maybe if they play their whole roster 9v6

though LIP might fk em anyway

[next mesa]

O2 is great but if u take their whole roster I think rn they'd be like mid APAC

[north relic]

above or below hangzhou

[willow tartan]

hz were miseable

but they have good players

it really comes downn to coaching

hz didnt have coaching for like a whole stage

[north relic]

ttuba coach

[gusty rampart]

Is FunnyAstro good?

[next mesa]

Tough question I'd say above..

[gusty rampart]

Same here

LJG and Moth better imo

[next mesa]

If they keep doing coach musical chaids

Astro is very good

[next mesa]

Probably the only 2 that's better

Astro brig > moth brig though

Difference isnt that much

[gusty rampart]

True

[next mesa]

I was answering the o2blast question

[novel owl]

worst player in owl rn?

wait not rn

last season

[north relic]

leejaegon

[novel owl]

eh

[willow tartan]

how many gold players does it take to beat the shanghai dragons

[north relic]

no way shd can handle gold junkrats

[willow tartan]

i think the number would be like

13?

12

8-13

[north relic]

you overestimate gold players

i say 20

lets say lip goes widow

[willow tartan]

you're underestimating the op bullshit combinations

[north relic]

its free

[novel owl]

depend on the comp

[willow tartan]

4 tank 4 sup comp

[novel owl]

if shanghai cant take sombra

[willow tartan]

gg what to do

[novel owl]

lmao

sombra

somb + ana

just ban sombra and gold players will have a wayy higher chance

[willow tartan]

orisa/sigma/dva/hanzo/bap/brig/zen/lucio

[novel owl]

drop the most broken char by ppl in gold too

bastion

[willow tartan]

who would win: 12 gold players or an OWL bunker

hmmm

[novel owl]

gold tbh

[willow tartan]

imagine the comps man

[next mesa]

Yeah I'd say 12 would do

[novel owl]

as long as they can hit

[next mesa]

If you take

6 bastions

Nah

5

[willow tartan]

ball/dva/winston/tracer/sombra/echo/mercy/ana/zen/brig

[next mesa]

5 orisas

[novel owl]

6 bastion 2 orisa 4 bap

[next mesa]

2 baps

[willow tartan]

unbeatable dive

[novel owl]

tbh

bap gold cant do anything anyway

probably always late to lamp

or early

[willow tartan]

too many bodies man

[novel owl]

owl team just can go sombra hanzo

ana

[willow tartan]

rein/dva/zarya/mei/sym/cree/bap/lucio/brig

[novel owl]

just save emp and go

[willow tartan]

team korea vs team not korea

[novel owl]

id say run a goat with sym and sombra

sym for tp

[willow tartan]

los angeles valiant vs top500 NA

[novel owl]

imo top500 will win

i mean

we watched that uhh owl team got rekt by symm tp strat in blizz

i forgot which one

[willow tartan]

paris eternal vs atlanta reign

the birthplace of the saucy tire

[novel owl]

since they didnt practive vs sym

[jagged viper]

valiant vs unsalted moxy jelly peanuts

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/xzi_ow
Look at his twitter description 😢

Xzi (@xzi_ow)

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[willow tartan]

lol his pinned tweet is voting himmself for mvp

[reef dock]

Why doesn't priority pass show up ? got 40/40. Last played 2018 and I can't find answers

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/playoverwatch/status/1442646100989472769?s=21

Overwatch (@PlayOverwatch)

Let’s get to it!

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[willow tartan]

[north relic]

content?

impossible

[tacit skiff]

they're just gonna talk about what's already known

cringe

give me more info

new information

pls

[north relic]

tomorrow at 2

shit

[tacit skiff]

when will I be told his name is dave

[hot onyx]

Dang on the official Overwatch channel, pretty much means if they have a negative opinion they can’t express it

[willow tartan]

????

why not

[earnest leaf]

they can have negative opinions on it

just have to word it very lightly

[tacit skiff]

kekw freedom of speech

<

contracts

[hot onyx]

Gator could voice a non positive opinion about 5v5 and the devs would say “lol ratio” and terminate his contract

[tacit skiff]

????

the devs have no control over the org

[rough orbit]

....

[hot onyx]

Yeah I know

[rough orbit]

[hot onyx]

But still

[rough orbit]

I found it funny

[tacit skiff]

[rough orbit]

[hot onyx]

Shut up I’m just gonna miss off tanks being played sue me

[rough orbit]

zarya mains finna be on top

[hot onyx]

Extra bubbles don’t compensate for the lack of rein/monke

I’m gonna miss Hanbin and Void and all the other top ot players

I just don’t see this working long term

The game and league is going to revitalise for one year, look more popular than it has done since 2018 then the long time fans will immigrate to Valorant or something since they don’t wanna watch a potentially good game change for the worse further and the newer casual fans will get bored after the first year and immigrate to COD or something else that catches their attention

[next mesa]

this shit finna be ass

the core game design was made for 6v6

[earnest leaf]

Ngl based off of what we saw in the new preview

I am amazed they made the decision to put owl on ow2 next season

We're 6 months out

they are still re-working heroes, and we still have only seen one new hero

and even then we barely saw sojourn

[hot onyx]

Isn’t there gonna be like 4-5 new heroes?

[north relic]

Man imagine a meta that doesn’t include any ow1 heroes

[earnest leaf]

iirc we should have multiple heroes when ow2 drops

God owl s5 is going to be a shit show

meta wise at least

[hot onyx]

2 counts as “multiple”

[north relic]

S1 of ow was a meta shitshow

[barren quest]

Well OW1 was also chaotic early on if you looked at it today

[hot onyx]

Yeah but players had like 2 years before OWL was a thing

To get used to it

And OWL is going to be played on an early test mode of OW2

[north relic]

Preseason power rankings are going to be all over the place

[hot onyx]

I’m not looking forward to the Carpe JJonak and Ta1yo retirements

[north relic]

With essenzhou unironically having defiant first

I doubt carpe jjonak retires tbh

[hot onyx]

Gosh I hope you’re right

Fusion and NYXL wouldn’t be the same without either of them, let alone the league

[north relic]

Jjonak last season was hoping val flops because he wanted players to stay

[hot onyx]

Valiant or Valorant?

[north relic]

Valorant

S1 players should make a super team and retire

[hot onyx]

TviQ redemption arc

[north relic]

Fury jjonak carpe profit sounds hot

[hot onyx]

Yeah but what are your options for mt and ms?

Wait there’s Fate nvm

[north relic]

Fate mano sado

[hot onyx]

You’re talking about a super team and putting Mano in super team calibre?

[north relic]

I’m an nyxl fan

[hot onyx]

Dirty secret but I’m an NYXL secondary

[north relic]

Ok ms I can think of is anamo and closer

[trail perch]

Mano is def super team calibre lmao

[north relic]

Is all

[hot onyx]

I just can’t support a team that brutalises talented players with one of the worst coaching staffs in the league

[trail perch]

obviously 5king

for lucio gameplay

[hot onyx]

Watch any Fusion vod past May Melee and see if that opinion still stands

[north relic]

Ms options?

[barren quest]

Mano was not doing so well in Philly either...

[trail perch]

Nah i dont take shit about mano

that man is good

[hot onyx]

Anamo Neptuno Kellex Closer

[trail perch]

Closer prob

Honestly

[hot onyx]

Stuck in the past

[stuck radish]

shanghai's current roster would be scary as fuck in 5v5

[trail perch]

Wrong, he's just good at the game

[stuck radish]

even more than it is now

[hot onyx]

Who do you rate Mano higher than?

[trail perch]

Sado

[hot onyx]

Sado got fucked by one of the worst backlines in the league and an off tank partner who consistently got benched by off rolling players

[trail perch]

Toronto backline was not the issue there lmao

Ansoonjae wasnt the best

but lastro was consistantly good

[hot onyx]

On zen Lastro was above average

[trail perch]

Michelle dva was still good also lmao

[hot onyx]

Michelle was below average off tank

[trail perch]

Not on D.va

He was bellow average on sig and zar

[hot onyx]

Half of KR Contenders could bench him

[trail perch]

but Dva was the most important off tank this season

Half of KR contenders is cracked out of their minds

Lmao

Half of korean contenders could bench half of owl

[hot onyx]

Clestyn Attack Cane Max F4ZE Woohyal

Even Prot3ct

[trail perch]

Yeah those players could bench half of owl lmao

[hot onyx]

Alright out of the top 8 playoffs main tanks who was Mano better than?

[trail perch]

You just listed some elite off tanks

Lmao

[tawdry hamlet]

Mano isn't super team caliber anymore imo, as long as ball is relevant he won't be there

[hot onyx]

Mag on ball

That’s it

[trail perch]

ameng off ball

lmao

[hot onyx]

Everyone else surpasses him

[tawdry hamlet]

Ameng isn't the starter tho

[trail perch]

Gator off rein

[tawdry hamlet]

Orisa gator is amazing

[hot onyx]

I take Gator orisa

[trail perch]

Mano orisa is better

Yall just simply forget everything cause of one short season

[hot onyx]

NYXL fan stuck in the past

[tawdry hamlet]

If it wasn't lastro or Ansoonjae or Michelles fault, why was Toronto so bad

[trail perch]

Im not even an NYXL fan lmao

[hot onyx]

Next you’ll tell me SBB is still a top 3 tracer

[trail perch]

I said ansoonjae wasnt good lmao

[hot onyx]

And that JJonak is going to win a second MVP title next year

[tawdry hamlet]

JJonak is a player who is in fact not super team caliber anymore Mano aside 🙏

[trail perch]

I dont even like nyxl

lmao

I can acknowledge when a player is good tho lmao

[trail perch]

I want to see him on a real team first before u say that

[hot onyx]

Mano was one of the most inconsistent main tanks in the league last year

[trail perch]

Cause he had some great plays

and mechanically he is still cracked

[hot onyx]

And arguably the weakest player on Fusion this year

[trail perch]

Hotba

Without a doubt

the answer is hotba

[hot onyx]

Mechanically Dalton is cracked

What is your point?

[trail perch]

??

Mechanics also about movement

and actual gameplay

Daltons simple aim isnt better than say carpe

or decay

[hot onyx]

Mano isn’t bottom tier like Stand1 but he does not stand at the top of players anymore

[tawdry hamlet]

If you say hotba was the weakpoint then you didn't watch the games where he literally accounted for entire team fight wins

[hot onyx]

^^^

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't think he was good but he was one of the more consistent

But the amount of fights where hotba 1v2 or 1v3 to save it was plentiful

[hot onyx]

Honestly if Fusion keep Mano instead of signing Kellan Someone Belosrea or a free agent I will buy a Hunters jersey and switch teams

And this is coming from someone who put up with S1 & 2 Sado

[tawdry hamlet]

I hope all the below average players get replaced, I want top tier teams on every team 🙏

[gusty rampart]

Men...

Got all of them

[tawdry hamlet]

Logix Colorhex Teru ow2 dps line in Vancouver bro it'll be lit as fuck sheesh

[hot onyx]

Imagine Titans sign multiple AT players

Reiner OJEE Hydron Speedily

Put in Alex and Boombox for good measure

Bingo

You’ve got the best western Overwatch team since 2017 EnvyUs

[next mesa]

Does anyone have Xqc in a match saying like "HE STOLE MY DAVE" or some shit that clip

UV>BOOMBOX

[hot onyx]

Boombox is not washed up and deserves a second chance on a team that’ll treat him right

[next mesa]

UV still better though

why would u sign inferior player

[hot onyx]

UV also not old enough to play in OWL

[next mesa]

but he will be in s5

so like

whats the problem

[hot onyx]

Isn’t he like 16?

[next mesa]

he will turn 18 in april

hes 17

[hot onyx]

Ah fair

Still think BB better though

[next mesa]

lol u trippin

[hot onyx]

Just played for shits and gigs on Funi

And how tf u supposed to win on a team with Nico Naru and Kruise?

[next mesa]

and boombox

man's kinda washed

[hot onyx]

Mans kinda made 3 OWL finals

Sure he’s no longer the best western flex support now that Kaan exists but he can get back to his prime stage with good coaching

Mans talented

[next mesa]

and lost

look i get it ur benched by alarm everyone does

[hot onyx]

Lost deez nuts in your mommas ass

[next mesa]

but UV is just best western fs not close

[hot onyx]

Lukemino

Kaan

[next mesa]

tf u mean lukemino

[hot onyx]

Roolf

[next mesa]

are u actually smoking

UV slaps Lukemino literally every matchup ever

UV is just built diff

[hot onyx]

Ripa = UV

[next mesa]

Boombox = Ripa at best

lmao

[hot onyx]

Took AT to 7 maps

[next mesa]

like a year ago

AV > BH anyway

[hot onyx]

And Ripa is in owl

[next mesa]

Ripa is dogshit

[hot onyx]

No age difference played apart

Just skill 😎

[next mesa]

because UV couldnt be in owl u idiot

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-breath-in-boi-boy-spongebob-meme-gif-19885876

[hot onyx]

Don’t call me an idiot Dallas won grand finals

7 map special vs the Dragons

Perfect match to finish the season and I predicted it correctly

Just after Profit turned up to playoffs as well

Holy shit I am so tired but I cannot sleep

[rough orbit]

mr shock

[stuck radish]

try closing ur eyes

[tawdry hamlet]

I would kill for an open like jamboree of owl teams and contenders teams just to see the matchups. Especially since American tornado literally scrims owl teams just like Korean teams lol

So it'd be cool to see how much better than the worst owl team the best contenders team is or vice versa

[stuck radish]

if ur an OWL team and consistently lose to a contenders team then something has gone horribly wrong

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean if you're suggesting the top contenders teams can't beat London consistently idk, I doubt it, honestly I think London got hella complacent idk how else it happens

But they looked like a 6 stack playing often times 😭

You can tell shax was doing everything right as a veteran owl player and everyone else had awful pathing lmao

[willow tartan]

top of EU contenders = bottom of OWL

[tawdry hamlet]

So then does that place American tornado on Paris tier or London tier?

Since I don't know what top of na contenders compares like

Aspire wasn't even the best t2 dps available and he did alright so surely the talent is there

It's really convenient Paris were super mid and London were super low so you can compare so easy lmao

[willow tartan]

there are diamonds in the rough where an t2 player def have the skill to be super good. but im talking about teams

like if you ported talon to owl

Tier 2 teams have tier 2 coaches and team environments

[next mesa]

yeah dude

thats what ive been ayinn

sayinnn

in my ideal owl dream scenario

[willow tartan]

just run off season tournament with open qualifiers

ezpz

[next mesa]

where every season the bottom 1-2 owl teams have to participate in the gauntlet

where all the top contenders team are

and the winner of that

gets the owl spot

😎

[willow tartan]

will never happen

[next mesa]

just had to ruin my dream

what did I ever do to u

[tawdry hamlet]

Before franchised league this is literally what happened 😈

Thanks blizzard

[next mesa]

gg blizzard

we got to watch a full year of team cc, runaway, and o2blast in contenders, and a year of shit mcdonalds mayhem, valiant, and shit titans in owl

gg

[worn falcon]

@next mesa btw did you saw this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/pwagb5

[next mesa]

WAIT

LESSS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

BRO DIYA IS ONLY LIKE

22 OR SOME SHIT

SIGN THE MAN

charge

revamp ur whole roste

r

sign diya innovation

do it bitch

[willow tartan]

[next mesa]

Imagine if Chengdu signed Diya instead of jimmythethrower

[worn falcon]

If he likes ow2 he may break hiatus and lft

If not he is gonna be out

[tawdry hamlet]

Diya Eileen choisehwan dps line 😈

Except Diya would play tracer and choisehwan is more flex than hitscan kek

Diya choisehwan godsb 🙏

[next mesa]

Diya can hitscan

Choisehwan tracer actually pretty good

[tawdry hamlet]

Eh that's fair

[north relic]

Yea Bebe is insane

Who would you compare diya to in owl I didn’t watch diya ever play

[hot onyx]

Logix

[north relic]

Unironically?

[hot onyx]

Just because I would compare Diya to Logix doesn’t mean it’s a correct comparison

Idk I only watched Diya play like twice on CC

But from what I saw he’s an instant upgrade over Jimmy and MyKaylee

[north relic]

Doesn’t take much to be that

[plush grail]

onigod > diya

[gusty rampart]

TRUEING

[next mesa]

Carpe except diya wins

Cracked hitscan also great tracer 👍👍

[last nimbus]

isnt carpe going to retire next season

[north relic]

Hmm I’m going to assume he will be bqb level then if he joins

[gusty rampart]

Mickey Mouse season of Overwatch League

3peat next year

[north relic]

Does it count as a 3peat or just 3 wins

[gusty rampart]

Irrelevant rn

All that matters is 3 rings

Ok but the Shanghai rings will be drippy

[next mesa]

Probably more

I mean better

But yeah u could start at bqb level

As a FLOOR

[north relic]

I mean i think of it like a pine situation

[next mesa]

He hasn't played competitively in a year

[sullen berry]

I knew it

[trail perch]

https://twitter.com/d_aily_ow/status/1441963965718798337?s=19

데일리 (@d_aily_ow)

WHORU is the only player who have won APEX, Contenders and OWL

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whoru the goat

[willow tartan]

he will get world cup next in 2022

team korea is just the shanghai roster

[sullen berry]

Season 2 Contenders grand finals across all major regions in 2018 had some goat LANs

https://youtu.be/Cmxrh_OAUJ0 man shaves and manages to return as cohost 27 episodes later

Casters and Jaws answering the important questions like initial reactions to the OW2 showmatch and "was last Thursday peak Overwatch"?

[next mesa]

Yes it was

[gusty rampart]

New Plat Chat dropped

[worn falcon]

no annoucement yet

imagine if SHD drops Lip

[hot onyx]

Potential to upgrade for Dalton

[stuck radish]

this is live now

https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1442646100989472769?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Overwatch (@PlayOverwatch)

Let’s get to it!

Group up with us tomorrow 9/28 on @TwitterSpaces at 11 am PT. We will be discussing first reactions about Overwatch 2 with @MattMrX @Gator_OW @super_OW and @SPACEOW!
https://t.co/Y5QDdkwe4z

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[balmy wolf]

Yo guys i need your help

[willow tartan]

is there no yt costream?

@stuck radish

[balmy wolf]

its on twitter

[willow tartan]

guess im not watchng it

[balmy wolf]

lol

I havent gotten the Overwatch League spray even tho I've been watching for 3 hours

[balmy wolf]

that sucks

Has someone that issue as well?

[stuck radish]

i knew that they wouldnt be able to say anything negative

by that i mean criticism

[plush grail]

PARIS NEWS

WHEN

im bored

[next mesa]

IKR

[worn falcon]

@willow tartanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfF8uHimEQI

someone recorded the convo

all casual

[dense dune]

Should I stay my iiyama OR AOC monitor? Because I play competitive on overwatch

(1) 0.8ms, AMD FreeSync Premium, 27 inch, 1080p, 165Hz -- iiyama G-Master GB2770HSU-B1 € 199
(2) 1.0ms, AMD FreeSync Premium, 27 inch, 1080p, 144Hz -- AOC 27G2U/BK € 239```

[willow tartan]

i thought super was a streamer why is his mic shit

[plush grail]

who

[willow tartan]

matthew DeLisi

[worn falcon]

*Cashew DeLisi

[worn falcon]

isnt their mic, is twitter being shit, the audio was super low for whatever the reason

[north relic]

this is your captain speaking

[next mesa]

looks like the iiyama is better in almost every way, although very negligible

damn

super restraining all of his willpower to not say "5v5 felt absolute DOGSHIT DUUUUDE WHAT IS THISSSS~~"

[dense dune]

Why? AOC quality is bad or something?

Because I've tested both AOC and iiyama at yesterday and today

[next mesa]

I just mean specs wise

slightly lower ms and higher hz

although its really not noticeable

and you can just go by preference

[willow tartan]

There's also other factors such as color accuracy and brightness that you may want to take into account.

[next mesa]

memeicus how long does your nerd mode last

[north relic]

when he stops using periods

[next mesa]

yeah thats what im wondering

[digital cloud]

why do you guys only make fun of memeicus for that

I do it sometimes as well

am I special

[noble nexus]

fuckin nerds lol

touch grass freaks

[digital cloud]

ur a regular and a nitro booster

fucking nerd

[noble nexus]

you're here all the time and still aren't regular?

damn bro

must suck to be you

[digital cloud]

no one loves me

[noble nexus]

I can believe it tbh

[earnest leaf]

Could probably just ask a mod

regular is super easy to get

[digital cloud]

you are not supposed to ask

and it isn't like I care

much

plus most of the regulars are weirdos anyway

wonder what Houston does over the break

probably dump all their good players smh

[earnest leaf]

Drop dreamer fully commit to jjanggu/piggy

Find another strong flexible dps

and either hard commit to joobi/crimzo, or revamp both

[gusty rampart]

Crimzo did pretty well

No clue what happened to Joobi

[earnest leaf]

they pulled a shock

take forever to find a proper support rotation

except it took houston so long they couldn't even make playoffs

[gusty rampart]

Jake Brig lol

[earnest leaf]

Like generally all the best teams each year have a hard 6 man roster they use at all times

[north relic]

houston took less time to figure it out than shock

[earnest leaf]

shd this year/last year

and depending on meta, shock would keep the same 6-7 players starting

[earnest leaf]

Houston fucked with their lineup as much as shock did

Shock just actually settled on their lineup, but super late

[tropic herald]

This is especially important when the regular season is only 16 matches

[earnest leaf]

yep

shock/houston cucked themselves by failing to do so

[willow tartan]

literally never getting it again

no mods in ed

[tropic herald]

Silly members still don’t know reg is automatic

:/

[next mesa]

bro das wack

[willow tartan]

Please o' mighty moderator remove me from the regular blacklist.

[tropic herald]

But yeah Houston completely fucked themselves over with main tank revolving door

[earnest leaf]

jjanggu wasn't even bad

he was doing fine on rein/winston in the beginning

[tropic herald]

Yeah that was what confused me, they put dreamer in on picks that Jjanggu looked fine on

[willow tartan]

I thought they signed Dreamer for ball.

[earnest leaf]

iirc jjanggu literally played ball a ton in contenders

[tropic herald]

ig there was something Junkbuck knew that we didn’t

[digital cloud]

so I guess I don't have enough messages lol

who knew all I had to do was spam a lot

anyway, I hope they keep joobi, he seems good

they really needed to ditch Jake

[willow tartan]

Regular speedrun bribeless any%

[digital cloud]

coach jake seems decent, but player jake . . .

[worn falcon]

all we know is some players still on the fence with ow2

[north relic]

when ow2 comes out im doing a pve any%

[willow tartan]

lets speedrun together :)

[north relic]

ur asia right

[willow tartan]

skip all the dialogue

where do you live?

[north relic]

us

[willow tartan]

close enough

[north relic]

time to move to hawaii

[digital cloud]

memeicus you have almost as many messages as levy and no regular

automatic my ass

[north relic]

he lost regular but yes

[willow tartan]

I had regular but then it was removed because I was saying mean things to someone.

[digital cloud]

ah, then you were an idiot

[willow tartan]

No, he was an idiot

[digital cloud]

that is one way to frame it, yes

[next mesa]

I got my regular removed

because i spammed

[digital cloud]

I remember that lol

that was fucking hilarious

[next mesa]

bro I think I spammed #GOSEOUL or some shit

GOT IT BACK THOUGH AFTER MONTHS

[digital cloud]

seems like something you would do

[willow tartan]

Pfft... regular is overrated anyway

[digital cloud]

I am gonna guess regular is about 20k messages

indeed

well eventually I'll get it and then low key start complaining about not having veteran

probably around the time Houston wins owl

buncha losers

[willow tartan]

What's the command that tells you when you joined?

[north relic]

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on May 12, 2020

[willow tartan]

!!joined

[digital cloud]

you aren't a regular, filthy pleb

[noble nexus]

L

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on May 14, 2020

[willow tartan]

Nerd.

[north relic]

L

[willow tartan]

[north relic]

imagine joining that late

[willow tartan]

I'm are veteran

[noble nexus]

pretty sure I'd joined at some point before that but left for a while

so fuck you

[willow tartan]

Your first message was on 31/10/2020.

[digital cloud]

lurked for a while huh

[north relic]

no one look at my first message

[digital cloud]

how do you have regular and less messages

if it is automatic

[north relic]

skill

i went hyper active for a week

[willow tartan]

Empathy was pulling your leg, it isn't automatic.

[north relic]

i mean like 5 hours straight active

[digital cloud]

LIES

[gusty rampart]

It is automatic

[willow tartan]

I see through the lies of the Jedi.

[digital cloud]

• _ -

well, back on topic

I can see Houston eventually being good, but if they are it will be in ow2, so it doesn't even matter

[trail perch]

smh imagine losing regular

just dont be an asshole

[willow tartan]

That's rich coming from you.

[trail perch]

I have over 11k messages and havent lost the role yet

so ig im doing something right

[willow tartan]

You predding Washington Justice to win the GF caused me psychological damage.

[digital cloud]

Since when is essenzhou an asshole

[trail perch]

Yeah also wait what

[digital cloud]

The assholes are usually you and levy

[trail perch]

im usually just here with bad takes

[willow tartan]

Bad takes offends my soul.

[digital cloud]

And uvalo

[trail perch]

also i said 1m times that it was a 0.05% chance bracket

I just thought it would be funny if i hit that 1/2000

[willow tartan]

The very notion that you would even think of it broke my spirit.

[trail perch]

i mean they made it to playoffs

so thats something

[digital cloud]

Pain

[north relic]

13k havent lose regular

[trail perch]

since they made it theres a chance

look at s1 london

[north relic]

asshole as in ruining peoples psychological sanity

[trail perch]

they barely sneaked in after being shit 1/2 of the season

and won the whole thing

[digital cloud]

Then anyone of us are assholes

I feel like that is too broad a definition

[trail perch]

all of us are insane lol

not a single sane person in this channel

except empathy

[digital cloud]

Only you people

[trail perch]

He supports good team

and doesnt have shit take

therefore

Sane

[raw ermine]

So I am insane?

[digital cloud]

Empathy is a mod he def has something wrong with him

Yes

[north relic]

someone go find a shit empathy take

[trail perch]

Very much

ill try

[raw ermine]

ez

[digital cloud]

I know he has had some

[trail perch]

found one

[north relic]

that isnt a bad take

[digital cloud]

Uh that is a good take

Brainlet

[trail perch]

Nah

no way

mag better on justice

with old runaway players

He would be murdered on ATL

his career ruined

[digital cloud]

Pelican has done fine

[trail perch]

also who was it yelling at me cause i said that MAG>Gator

there where quite a few ppl

very mad about that one

[raw ermine]

this

[north relic]

that was a joke

[trail perch]

wb this one

[raw ermine]

What are you, the joke police?

[north relic]

ur arrested

[earnest leaf]

that sado take honestly isn't bad

Sado seems to be as good as the team around him

[willow tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745768601671303231/892534606203596820/baconmasterrace.png

[north relic]

i dont eat much bacon

[digital cloud]

Did he really

[trail perch]

wb this one

[raw ermine]

I sorta kinda agree. It's fine, I prefer sausages, I just feel bad eating bacon, it's so greasy sometimes

[digital cloud]

All of you are just wrong

[trail perch]

Well he is

I think Mag is better than gator on every MT

[digital cloud]

Literally best rein stats idiot

[trail perch]

Mag is simply the better player

[earnest leaf]

Gator is the better rein/orisa

[trail perch]

incorrect

[earnest leaf]

Mag is the better winston/ball

[trail perch]

Mag just had bebe closer

[digital cloud]

Statistically mag has the best rein

[earnest leaf]

Even when gator had dogman he still looked solid on rein/orisa

[trail perch]

yeah and when Mag had Chiyo and revenge he looked like a top 5 MT in the world

[north relic]

thoughts?

[digital cloud]

He never said that lol

Prove he said that

[willow tartan]

Super has played way more than Smurf this season so take that as you will.

[digital cloud]

The context bro

[earnest leaf]

Super is the better rein and their orisa's are equal, smurf is the better winston/ball

[north relic]

lol a reason i cut it out

[trail perch]

wb this one

[willow tartan]

But Super has better calls, that's why he's placed in.

So do you value better balls or better calls?

[digital cloud]

Ok that fusions take is bad lol

And the bacon one

[north relic]

depends what you are into

[earnest leaf]

Thing is stand1 ended up being so mid

[digital cloud]

See, empathy is an idiot too

[trail perch]

AYYYYY

ayyyyyy

[north relic]

we just did a fbi investigation on empatjjy

[earnest leaf]

Mano probably has a better winston and ball over super

[tropic herald]

you guys had to pull a take from 2019 to say my takes are bad

[digital cloud]

Man is criminally wrong occasionally

[earnest leaf]

Orisa i'd maybe give the edge to super

[digital cloud]

You had the worst bacon take of all time

[earnest leaf]

and rein definitely super

[digital cloud]

It transcends all of time

And I presume he is going by old and not new

But idk

[trail perch]

yeah

[earnest leaf]

I do have the best takes in this server though

[trail perch]

i went to the oldest

[willow tartan]

[digital cloud]

I remember that post actually wtf

[earnest leaf]

was that when houston beat them in stage 3?

[digital cloud]

I think so

[willow tartan]

Yes.

[digital cloud]

Omegalol

[tropic herald]

that was a really big win i remember

[earnest leaf]

s2 of owl was when I actually started fully watching but it was such a blur

[tropic herald]

same

[raw ermine]

same

[trail perch]

@next mesa on leave last year

[tropic herald]

i only really remember s3 vividly

[raw ermine]

but I still fondly remember s2 stage 3

[digital cloud]

I watched every game of season one and then decided to cut back to the teams like

[tropic herald]

stage 3 was my favorite stage for no reason at all

[digital cloud]

Was a good idea

[willow tartan]

same

none.

[next mesa]

True

[north relic]

this year or last year

[next mesa]

I speak facts

[tropic herald]

season 2

[next mesa]

Underwhelming

[raw ermine]

bad empathy take

[tropic herald]

leave was good last year,, he had a quite awful environment around him

[willow tartan]

[digital cloud]

Honestly pro play wasn’t good until like the end of season 2

[earnest leaf]

Give leave a better team

[digital cloud]

Lol

[willow tartan]

im telling you man

[tropic herald]

IM STILL RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE

[willow tartan]

sign leave to dragons for that triple dps rotation

[raw ermine]

hydration hog

[willow tartan]

give him the bag

[earnest leaf]

nah that take is actually -iq

[trail perch]

2020 grand finals go brrr

[earnest leaf]

hog meta implies snipers are meta

Ans> everyone

[tropic herald]

talon was the team that was shitting on everyone that meta

guess who houstons tanks are from

[earnest leaf]

Yes scrimbux from last year

because scrimbux are so good

[willow tartan]

atlanta scrimbux

[tropic herald]

if you had grand finals last year w talon instead of philly

talon make top 2 9/10 times

win 5/10 times

[earnest leaf]

No team at that time was beating shock in that meta

Considering they literally never dropped koth/hybrid

And I don't care what contenders player they were

They weren't matching ans/striker at their peaks on their best heroes

[digital cloud]

Ok, but despite piggy and jjanggu being gods houston still mismanaged them

Somehow

[willow tartan]

Player Coach Jake should've put Jjangu in more

[digital cloud]

Imagine running dreamer lol

Did they not see how godly he was vs super on rein

[tropic herald]

houston 100% wouldve been a better team if they didnt sub out anything from the first stage imo

[digital cloud]

Exactly

Keep in Joobi, keep in jjanggu

[earnest leaf]

Maybe next year teams will learn subbing people out constantly doesn't work majority of the time

unless you were shock subbing out top 3 players for other top 3 players

in 2019/2020

[digital cloud]

Ow has evolved to the point where you can just have hyper flexes that are gods at everything and you never switch

Of course that is gone now that ow2 is a thing

[trail perch]

just have 2 hyperflexes

thats what spark did

[willow tartan]

Ehh, I still think having a backup is good in case of a double flex support meta or a meta where you need to run like echo/tracer or double hitscan

[trail perch]

except architect wasnt that good

Chengdu sign Diya or Apr1ta

[digital cloud]

Sure, but generally speaking it is at the point where subbing is less optimal

[earnest leaf]

If you are going to sub out players

[trail perch]

also lets get hyperflex support players

and hyperflex tank players

[earnest leaf]

The sub better be just as good if not better than the person getting subbed out

[tropic herald]

the only times its worth subbing out is if the hero is a big dick hero and you have the best person on that hero

[willow tartan]

I mean if you can find a DPS duo that can play every hero in the pool like Profits then you don't need subs

[tropic herald]

basically ans last year is the only exception

[willow tartan]

sparkle

genj go brrr

[earnest leaf]

ans/super/smurf last season basically

[digital cloud]

Ans should never be switched out at peak

[earnest leaf]

Toss super in to roll over kings row rq

[tropic herald]

sparkle wouldve perma started on paris if he was 18 pre season

[earnest leaf]

To be fair

[worn falcon]

just don't put smurf in a game when he is boomed

[earnest leaf]

sparkle last season was honestly a doom/genji two trick

[worn falcon]

i said before, sparkle played too many heroes

[earnest leaf]

When they had him play mei/echo, he was incredibly sad

[digital cloud]

He still kinda is, to an extent, if you consider how much better he is at those characters than his other ones

[earnest leaf]

Sparkle became an actual flex dps this year

[worn falcon]

Doomfist, Genji, Tracer, Symmetra, Pharah, Echo, Sombra, Reaper

[digital cloud]

Though his tracer is decent

[worn falcon]

only for this year

[willow tartan]

cant relate. no american chains here.

[digital cloud]

None?

[north relic]

cant relate. i barely eat fast food

[digital cloud]

Where are you, Afghanistan?

[north relic]

doesnt ljg get high on kfc orange juice though

[worn falcon]

can't relate, we have tacos.

real tacos.

[willow tartan]

kfc is a global fast food chain

[digital cloud]

Tacos are decent when you don’t have the dumbass spices we add to them in tex mex

[willow tartan]

there are more kfcs in china than in the US

[digital cloud]

KFC is weirdly popular in Asia

How did that even happen

[worn falcon]

but china doesn't have breadsticks...yet

[willow tartan]

its good food

[north relic]

only time empathy is based

[willow tartan]

haha remember the guy with the vancouver shirt at the hangzhou homestand?

[worn falcon]

He kinda needs to drop his mentality of going a hero which isn't working to his comfort heroes. Which to a some extent isn't bad

But damn was countered hard with Doom

[digital cloud]

Man breadsticks was such a good meme while it lasted

[willow tartan]

hes literally a ranked dps player

when things get tough he swaps to genji

[digital cloud]

His genji is so obscene though

He makes haksal and whoru look bad in comparison

[earnest leaf]

Haksal was the best genji we ever had in the league

[digital cloud]

And imagine if he was in the league during the doom meta at the end of season 2

[earnest leaf]

Sparkle's style of doom would of done super well that meta

[tropic herald]

EM would’ve roasted n toasted as a team in OWL that year

They could’ve been top 5

Don’t say that take is bad

It’s just right

[earnest leaf]

Well what was top 5 s2 anyways

shock/titans/nyxl/spark were top 4 I think?

[tropic herald]

Yah

[digital cloud]

I think Atlanta?

Or were they sixth

[tropic herald]

Yes

It was like

Shock Titans >>>> NY Spark >>>>>>>>>

[earnest leaf]

pretty much

[digital cloud]

Who was fifth

Was it Atlanta?

[tropic herald]

Glads

[digital cloud]

Valiant?

Ah glass

Glads*

[tropic herald]

People always be forgetting glads are perma top tier but not enough

[next mesa]

Chengdu will sign aprita

For surr

[earnest leaf]

custa looked at their record

they'vebeen 5/6th at the end of the year every season except s3

where they were 8th/7th

[next mesa]

Aprita is to chengdu what shy is to bilbili

[tropic herald]

Technically they did the worst in s1

[next mesa]

Wtf

No way

[worn falcon]

season 2 was this

[digital cloud]

My boys houston near the bottom

Good times

[worn falcon]

season 3

[north relic]

thinking of it s3 was just the fusion shock dragons show

[willow tartan]

yes

No other team really came close to consistent dominance.

[tropic herald]

Paris Guangzhou n Mayhem were lil sparks

[willow tartan]

Seoul May Melee

[tropic herald]

Reverse swept

[willow tartan]

Mayhem May Melee also epic

[worn falcon]

and week 19 season 4

[willow tartan]

2019 Stage 3 finals, 2020 May Melee finals and 2021 June Joust finals living rent free in my brain.

[tropic herald]

I was in r/cow discord for June Joist

That was the best feeling ever

There’s so many Dallas fans there

[north relic]

we are going to run out of things to say in ed by next week

[raw ermine]

Why were you talking about Overwatch in a discord server dedicated to cows?

[north relic]

all owl viewers are cows

[raw ermine]

nay

[willow tartan]

Minecraft?

[tropic herald]

This off season gonna be juicy for pickups and trades

[worn falcon]

r/🐮

[raw ermine]

1v1 me in modded minecraft overwatch pharah duels

[willow tartan]

Bet.

[worn falcon]

imagine if benbest isnt picked again

[tropic herald]

I mean he has nothing to show up with

He went to contenders and planned

Planked

[willow tartan]

sign him as a posterboy 5head

[north relic]

when is it happening

[tropic herald]

Soon maybe

[north relic]

isnt soon in valorant

[worn falcon]

soon is ...casually playing valorant

[willow tartan]

he's LFT for valorant

[worn falcon]

cant find anything for lft valorant

i think he is open to both

[next mesa]

How did justice win 4 games

Soon is on a val team

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/ShockCrusty/status/1442987326263599105

Crusty (@ShockCrusty)

After season end

Read: https://t.co/1i61c0jcDN

Twitter · Sep 28, 2021, 10:59 PM

[next mesa]

He switched alr

[north relic]

and andy

[trail perch]

Ok here me out

Offseason content

Everyone says one roster move rn

And then we see who got it right

mine is yaki and GNJ to WJ

[raw ermine]

the london spitfire will release a player

[north relic]

hmm

[trail perch]

more specific pls

[north relic]

funnyastro to reign

[raw ermine]

why they gonna do masaa like that

[north relic]

masaa is a grandpa

[raw ermine]

masaa is a goat

[north relic]

also i think funnyastros contract expires soon