esports-discussion

[gusty rampart]

There's no way

[tawdry hamlet]

Everyone rating shock high for beating Toronto 😏

[tropic herald]

orisa meta will just be another leejaegon incident that shock dont want to remember

[gusty rampart]

They'll get at least 1 map point

[earnest leaf]

nah unironically I think shock rolls shd in a poke/orisa meta

same for rush

[gusty rampart]

Playoff patch be insane

[earnest leaf]

but any dive based meta shd>>>

[tawdry hamlet]

LAG beat shock in rush 😎

[tropic herald]

id give rush but also rush is pretty shit rn i think

[forest raven]

Shanghai will 3-1 Shock

[gusty rampart]

Finally a decently based take

[stuck radish]

how do i see the top 10 players for each hero on the OWL site

i forgot again

[gusty rampart]

3-0 ain't gonna happen

[next mesa]

Nah

[earnest leaf]

3-0 if ball ends up being the better tank to run out of anything

[gusty rampart]

Didn't Choi play ball?

[stuck radish]

wait nvm

i found it

[gusty rampart]

And Super on D.Va?

[earnest leaf]

shock can play ball comps, but they rarely didn't

and shd is miles better on ball comps

[next mesa]

Ball is the better comp

It has the highest ceiling

[tawdry hamlet]

Fleta and lip will outdo Nero ans imo

[tropic herald]

if shock cant beat houston then how they gonna beat shanghai or take maps 😭

[earnest leaf]

we don't know the best comp for now

[next mesa]

Dink are you a shock fanboy

[earnest leaf]

We probably won't know till 3rd round or so

[gusty rampart]

Not even my favorite team

[next mesa]

Nah ball will be top

[earnest leaf]

tbf shock beat everyone in top5 once besides houston

[tawdry hamlet]

I still stand by LAG being stronger than shock rn

[gusty rampart]

But I think they have the will to do it

[tropic herald]

well michael u are right

[next mesa]

Well yeah I think it's a given

[earnest leaf]

It's just overall hard to fully determine outcomes of these matches

[next mesa]

Dragons glads chengdu

[earnest leaf]

new patch

And no hero bans

[next mesa]

1 2 3

[tawdry hamlet]

I want an LAG Shanghai Finals honestly

[tropic herald]

the only teams id take shock beating would be philly justice and thats still maybe

[next mesa]

And Dallas can be either behind chengdu or behind/on pace with dragons depends

[earnest leaf]

I think any team in the playoffs could beat anyone

[gusty rampart]

Justice and Fusion are outliers for winners

[earnest leaf]

besides justice

they'll lose out quick

[tawdry hamlet]

Chengdu either get far on ball or mirror rush and randomly throw again

[next mesa]

Shock is outliers too

[tawdry hamlet]

[gusty rampart]

Justice will be the first to be eliminated

[tropic herald]

gaga rein > super rein btw

[gusty rampart]

No

[earnest leaf]

didn't ga9a get shit on by mano earlier in the season

on rein

[tropic herald]

idk

[gusty rampart]

Haha

[tropic herald]

i was being sarcastic

[next mesa]

Rush is just an inferior comp

[tawdry hamlet]

Mano aka I won't stop feeding on ball ever

[next mesa]

And shock loves running it

[tropic herald]

based

[earnest leaf]

We don't know the best comps

[gusty rampart]

Playoffs patch be rush

[tropic herald]

better than mag "3 deaths per 10" ball god

[next mesa]

Ball > dive > orisa > rush

[tawdry hamlet]

[next mesa]

Map based

[earnest leaf]

literally no one knows the meta for the playoffs u chimp

[next mesa]

Shh

[earnest leaf]

new patch/no hero bans changes things up

[next mesa]

I predict

Not to mention

The new patch isn't that impactful

[stuck radish]

i mean

the only change that really mattered in the new patch is soldier

[earnest leaf]

I want to see 2-3 rounds of the playoffs to see what ends up being the meta

[tropic herald]

meta comp ball dva sombra legs brig zen

[earnest leaf]

Because at first teams usually just run what they are comfortable on

[next mesa]

Like I'ma be honest soldier might be a lil better Genji might be a lil better but tanks won't change

Cuz hog won't be meta with this

[tropic herald]

if legs isnt meta id be surprised tbh

[earnest leaf]

hey no one predicted finals meta last year

[stuck radish]

i hope soldier is hard meta so he gets nerfed

i want that hero out of my games

[earnest leaf]

and no one predicted finals meta in s2 either iirc

[next mesa]

Yeah but even then like

[tropic herald]

tfw finals meta could be finals meta this year

ball sig

[next mesa]

Hog actually got a patch

Like a huge buff

[earnest leaf]

What I am saying is

[next mesa]

Like we thought hog was irrelevant

But rn

[earnest leaf]

We don't know till we see the teams play

[next mesa]

There's just no significant patches

[gusty rampart]

If it's Hog meta again I'm quitting OW

[earnest leaf]

For all we know finals meta is orisa ball genji soldier zen brig

[tropic herald]

ok but real talk hog dva isnt a bad comp but people cry when hog is in ranked, although honestly me too

[next mesa]

That'd be a banger

[stuck radish]

hog dva is awful

[next mesa]

Hog is fine when the hogs good

[earnest leaf]

because no one in ranked can play hog

[next mesa]

Gesture tried he megafailed

[gusty rampart]

Hit your hook challenge

[tropic herald]

its generally bc rank mts only go the pathing that makes them take the most damage possible

i could see hog dva get streamlined for pros

[willow tartan]

its because he's unfun to play with and against.

just like mercy.

[earnest leaf]

and as soon as you have a few people on a team that know how to counter hog

he becomes useless

[gusty rampart]

Reaper PogU

[earnest leaf]

not even reaper

dva and/or ana

nade/matrix spam him

[gusty rampart]

And Reaper

And Reaper

Literally a battery for Reaper

[willow tartan]

tbh i dont see it shaking up too much

map dependent orisa/ball and monkey/rein only when you can get away with it

like anubis attack

[earnest leaf]

I'm curious to see if the ans soldier pick is solid

[willow tartan]

I think soldier you can get away with if you have the hitscan chops to back it up

though i still prefer the tracer/cree

[devout path]

I’m curious to see if fearless will be able to play monkey

[earnest leaf]

nah no cree with dive

he gets caught out too often

[willow tartan]

no i mean soldier can replace either cree or tracer's role

but i'd want either one over him

[devout path]

Soldier is like a longer ranged tracer

[earnest leaf]

The solider has been ran with dive

[willow tartan]

yeah and maybe that's because they are less comfortable on the tracer

[earnest leaf]

they ran tracer with it

[devout path]

Cree is like a more peeling hitscan

[stuck radish]

i dont think fearless could play monke against shock's cree torb comp

[willow tartan]

oh wait

[devout path]

You think that

[willow tartan]

shock still doesnt have a designated sombra player

[devout path]

But it is fearless

[willow tartan]

after 3 years

[earnest leaf]

no shocks anti dive comp would abuse fearless

[devout path]

Ans sorta

[earnest leaf]

shock aren't gonna play sombra if they aren't forced to

zero reason to

[willow tartan]

okay nah that makes sense then

if they arent gonna run the sombra then the soldier is an alright pick with the tracer

[earnest leaf]

ans aim op

[stuck radish]

shock and justice play hog zarya and the grand finals is shock vs justice

[willow tartan]

no

[earnest leaf]

that would be great

[willow tartan]

will quit life if hog zarya is meta

[stuck radish]

what if hog ball is meta

[willow tartan]

why should hog ever be meta

in what multiverse does hog become meta this patch

dva is broken again and she gets removed from the game?

[stuck radish]

the one where vancouver wins the grand finals

[gusty rampart]

Nah

Valiant

Valiant vs Titans Grand Finals

4-3 score

Tie on every map that tieable

[willow tartan]

technically every map is drawable

[gusty rampart]

Control ain't

[willow tartan]

if 30 minutes pass on a control map with no one capping the point the server shuts down

[devout path]

Ez

Just get omega stall comp on like lijang garden

[gusty rampart]

LMAO

I didn't not know thay

[last nimbus]

honestly couldn't care less who won the finals, i really want to see the rosters for next owl season

probably a crap ton of changes

[willow tartan]

why do you care about the next owl season

[balmy wolf]

its fun

[willow tartan]

but why care about the next owl season if you dont care about the current one

whats the goal

OW2L?

[worthy void]

probably cuz drastic roster changes as well as just overall changes to the game

cuz 5v5

[plush grail]

Because djfjeoxmsofbbsoenc

[cursive plover]

I just hope the tank changes don't kill owl

[hot onyx]

A world where the fans are stuck in the past

[willow tartan]

overdosing shock hypium

[tawdry hamlet]

[devout path]

They won’t

[cursive plover]

Obviously not in that way I just don't like 5v5

[balmy wolf]

who

[wild cape]

OW2L really does not roll off the tongue very well does it

[north relic]

Sado2L

[forest raven]

CUM

[last nimbus]

cause its just the same game as last year, sure the players got better and new metas but i would much rather watch an ow2 owl than owl on ow1

[willow tartan]

which player has the most deaths alltime in owl

[forest raven]

Probably Jjonak

[willow tartan]

lol its gesture

[somber latch]

i feel bad for the tanks

ow2 and all

[forest raven]

[willow tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745768601671303231/886941262027051038/alltimedeathsowl.png

[forest raven]

Holy shit gamsu is still 4th

[willow tartan]

residentfeeder

[vagrant cargo]

Gamsu was overrated post season 1

[forest raven]

Gamsu won a title in season 2

[willow tartan]

gaming warlord LIP has the record for most hero damage in both an overwatch league match and map, both from june joust gf

34,027 hero damage on Eichenwalde and 136,487 total

[north relic]

Neo goats moment

[little tusk]

yeah why is dva so broken

iirc she didn't even get buffed recently

yet now she suddenly seems so oppressive idk why

[willow tartan]

she hasnt been not strong

doesnt need to be buffed

shes always been good

if by "suddenly" you mean roughly a year

then cause when double shield was meta dva wasnt part of that recipe

But I can't really think of a time where dva wasnt good

[forest raven]

May-November, 2016

[willow tartan]

I cant remember 99.99% of 2016

[forest raven]

May-July 2016 was when defence matrix was on a cooldown, and self destruct was 4 seconds and killed dva

[willow tartan]

isnt dm still on a cd

[forest raven]

It has a buffer of 2 seconds before you can use it again, but on release DM had no resource meter and was on a 10 second cooldown

[gusty rampart]

In JJoNak's defense

He's been playing since s1

[devout path]

And STILL has less deaths than a retired player

[willow tartan]

tank players die more is just fact

proof that main tanks die more

[willow tartan]

why do valorant players never save

is that just how fked up the eco is

forcebuy every round

[north relic]

Unless you’re mag

[next mesa]

Bdosin

🥲 damn if only he wasn't a shit person

[north relic]

Bdosin why you no use trans

[north relic]

What did he do btw

[next mesa]

I think he's like hella toxic I forgot

[north relic]

Like violet switch to brig toxic?

[earnest leaf]

very accurate playoffs tier list

Reign below shock because pelican on high ping

I personally wouldn't count out any of the teams to make a run

besides justice

[somber kayak]

wouldnt playtime have a lot to do with this

[hot onyx]

Move Shock down two spots and it’s an actual good tier list

[next mesa]

i agree mostly

i think maybe fusion above reign justbecause pelican on 200 ping

[tropic herald]

I swear Pelican is playing from LA for playoffs

https://twitter.com/badpachimari/status/1437471109985746950?s=21

Bad Pachimari (@BadPachimari)

This is my tierlist for OWL playoffs, I love OWL and think that every team is insane and has a great chance of winning it all!

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Twitter · Sep 13, 2021, 5:39 PM

Based

[hot onyx]

Literally just an incorrect opinion

Who the fuck

Thinks Justice aren’t going to go out first?

Let alone make top 3

[tropic herald]

Username checks out

[north relic]

bad pachimari never misses though

[earnest leaf]

I think they were planning on getting him there to play from LA

So maybe if all goes well he gets under 200 ping

[hot onyx]

Bebe and Closer above the bottom 2

[gusty rampart]

Fusion lol

[gusty rampart]

Washington at lowest as well

[tiny pollen]

shock wins

only can be beat by atlanta

also how often is od?

[hot onyx]

Ayo Dink, what about a 3-0 win vs the Defiant sparked this sudden hope of a 3peat?

[earnest leaf]

Tbf they were one fight away from beating glads

Who won the recent tourney

People forget their season wasn't even that bad

Both times NA won a tourney shock had to play them in kockouts

[gusty rampart]

What about a 3-1 sparked your hope of a win for Fusion

Dynasty underperformed hard

[barren quest]

Seoul always drop the spaghetti on the games that matter

[next mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/lifting-carrying-heavy-epic-fail-ouch-gif-16764366

profits trying to lift the rest of seoul

[hot onyx]

who said i had hope

[gusty rampart]

Good

Fusion has zero chance of winning

[hot onyx]

Just like the Shock

Glad we have a similar perspective

[next mesa]

"shock isnt even my favourite team"

[worn falcon]

glads is damn high

[worn falcon]

in this tier

[hot onyx]

I mean they won the Countdown Cup

Look solid on every composition

[gusty rampart]

NYXL dropped out so I have to support someone else

[next mesa]

who would u put above

i say maybe chengdu

maybe

[worn falcon]

i would put chengdu yep

[hot onyx]

My nan has a suspicion about a Chengdu-Shanghai finals

Y’know

The same woman that predicted Dallas to beat SFS in the May Melee Knockouts

I’m not saying y’all should take pickem advice from her

Because I want $10,000

[willow tartan]

your nan knows more than some people in this chat

mfw shock grand finals get outta here

[plush grail]

his Nan might be good at predicting owl games but I bet she can't do a ollie

[noble nexus]

I bet his nan can’t do 15 keepy ups either

[tribal canopy]

Just gonna go with 3-0 and 4-0 for the shock to get that win

[willow tartan]

They have to at minimum play three games ya know.

Quarters, semis and winners before they touch GF

[plush grail]

Shock isn't gonna win

Stop coping

[noble nexus]

yeah philly are in the playoffs

ez win for philly

[barren quest]

Nah don't worry guys, Philly is going to win the grand finals

[willow tartan]

true, fusion beat shock any day

[noble nexus]

with ease honestly

[willow tartan]

3-1

[hot onyx]

She is 72 and has never touched a skateboard in her life and can still do a better ollie than you

[plush grail]

I'd still beat her in ow

[north relic]

What an achievement

[plush grail]

Who

[north relic]

You beating a 72 year old grandma at overwatch

[hot onyx]

No you couldn’t, bronzie

[north relic]

Luigi is plat

He is insane

[hot onyx]

He’s an insane mercy player

Mid moira

[north relic]

yea he loves healbotting Moira’s

[hot onyx]

And bottom tier every other character that requires any form of aim or positioning brain sense

[north relic]

Luigi would prob res people just so he can see them die again

[hot onyx]

Luigi forgets to press E to res

Good healer though

But my nan could do better

[noble nexus]

nah Luigi is cracked on the zen

he turboints into the backline viol2t style and team wipes

[willow tartan]

what hero does your nan main

@hot onyx *

[north relic]

grandma plays the grandma

[hot onyx]

“I like the big Wrecking Ball”

[north relic]

thats why ur alive

[balmy wolf]

same

[willow tartan]

oh she's a ball main

no wonder she has good takes, ball takes big brain to play

[balmy wolf]

same

[hot onyx]

“same”

[balmy wolf]

mood

[hot onyx]

Hey guys

Hybrid amirite

[north relic]

when we getting ameng to dallas

for the ball specialist

[hot onyx]

When Ameng changes his ethnicity or when Dallas is no longer a full Korean team

Besides is ball even going to be useful in OW2?

[stuck radish]

ball is most likely going to be the best tank in the game

in ow2

[hot onyx]

If this isn’t just bias towards the current meta please elaborate

[stuck radish]

ball has historically always worked well as a solo tank and i dont see that changing in ow2 unless they nerf him very very heavily

ball triple dps was always good

[balmy wolf]

10 second cooldown for morph

would a unga boonga damage comp work

like uh

ball, hog, soldier, cree, zenyatta, bap

[hot onyx]

Worked in 6v6 with a third healer/dps

[stuck radish]

if ball works well as a solo tank in 6v6 even with all the cc in the game

he will work very well in an environment with less cc

[hot onyx]

Yeah you’ve got a point there but

There’s only so much cc that blizzard can remove

[stuck radish]

which is why i said unless they nerf him very heavily

because they could

[hot onyx]

Mei no longer freezes

Cool

McCree flashbang

Sombra hack

[stuck radish]

im pretty sure almost all non-tank stuns are gonna go

[hot onyx]

Brig bash

Ana sleep

[stuck radish]

sleep is staying as is

[hot onyx]

Neato

Doom punch

[stuck radish]

well it might be nerfed vs tanks and hopefully it is but idk

[hot onyx]

What is flashbang going to do

[stuck radish]

get reworked into another ability

most likely

[hot onyx]

That I could be excited for

Since McCree is pretty much one of the most bland heroes in the game kit wise

[stuck radish]

yeah

i wonder if deadeye is staying the same

deadeye could be really powerful in 5v5

[hot onyx]

Gun, fast gun, roll and smoke, and gun

Deadeye will be busted

Unless they increase the charge time a ton

[stuck radish]

actually now that i think about it

[hot onyx]

Like when you use it and the funky red skulls pop up

[stuck radish]

most dps ults are going to be busted in 5v5 without changes

[hot onyx]

Kind of are

[stuck radish]

so i wonder how they will deal with that

especially things like duplicate

[hot onyx]

Now here’s my doomer mindset

They don’t and they fail

[stuck radish]

i still think 5v5 is going to be terrible

theres 0 reason to believe it'll be good

[hot onyx]

I mean

It’s altering a core element of a game that has had 6 years of success

And unnecessarily putting multiple pro players out of a job

[stuck radish]

what a lot of people dont realize is the core game of overwatch is very very successful

what caused ow to lose popularity so fast was mismanagement by blizzard

[hot onyx]

Hate to say it

But if OW was taken over by someone like Riot after the first 2-3 years of launch it’d be in a better state than it is rn

[stuck radish]

content wise probably

balance wise probably not

[hot onyx]

Balance wise I couldn’t give less of a damn

There’s always going to be some character that everybody has some beef with

[stuck radish]

yeah

[hot onyx]

“Dva is too broken” where?

Literally one of the most balanced characters in the game rn

“Bap is absolutely busted” just coordinate pushes to punish the lamp placement not that hard

[stuck radish]

the only hero thats borderline op is soldier imo

but other than soldier the game is well balanced at the moment

after what

5 years?

[hot onyx]

Seems like a fair amount of time

Now let’s gigabuff roadhog after it was so well received last year

[stuck radish]

if you want to save overwatch

make symmetra unplayable for no reason

nobody likes playing against sym lets be real

[hot onyx]

I agree

But I have a counter arguement

Bastion

[stuck radish]

hes already unplayable

[hot onyx]

Shut up I’m stuck in gold dps and can’t get out this is low rank experience

[stuck radish]

go hanzo

[hot onyx]

He’s not fun to play against

[north relic]

is it a hot take to say i prefer something to be strong

[hot onyx]

He’s not fun to play with

And he isn’t fun to play as

[stuck radish]

turboflanking as bastion is pretty fun

but the 11 other players hate their lives when you do it

[hot onyx]

Y’know what is fun as bastion?

[stuck radish]

dive

[hot onyx]

Using symm teleporters in turret mode

[stuck radish]

overwatch tower defense

[hot onyx]

On attack

[stuck radish]

depends on what

if you want like bastion sombra to be meta

then leave

[willow tartan]

i want widow tracer meta

the two hallmarks of overwatch

zoom zoom pew pew pew flank die die

[hot onyx]

That’s an odd way to spell ashe genji

[willow tartan]

and click head elim sound click head

[stuck radish]

winston dva tracer genji mercy ana dive vs sigma (some talon tank) reaper doom moira bap bunker

that should be a meta and countercomp

overwatch vs talon

[north relic]

moira bap lol

[willow tartan]

tracer genji dive

[north relic]

also dva isnt part of ow

[willow tartan]

yea

neither is any of the other heroes because overwatch shut down guys remember???

[stuck radish]

wasnt she teased to be in ow in some ow2 trailer or concept art or something

[north relic]

i would say previous members count

[hot onyx]

Sojourn

[willow tartan]

sojourn isnt an off tank

idk if u knew that

[hot onyx]

Double main tank

[stuck radish]

yeah sojourn is a main tank

[willow tartan]

though it would be cool to have an off tank with a rail gun

[stuck radish]

give baby dva a railgun

[willow tartan]

off tank rail gun + winston zap cannon

ez clap

[hot onyx]

I will make 6v6 OW2 and play Sojourn like an off tank

If I figured it out with rein I can do it with the funky rail gun lady

[stuck radish]

man 6v6 would be great in the ow2 environment

[hot onyx]

I agree

[stuck radish]

also i wonder if new types of comps will be made in ow2

like how rn the 3 main comp types are dive brawl poke

[willow tartan]

i mean what else would it be?

[hot onyx]

Passive Hammond

[stuck radish]

if those 3 remain as valid comp types in ow2

brawl is gonna be so shit lmao

[north relic]

the hoge

[willow tartan]

I feel like dive brawl and poke are like

the fundamentals of what you can do in ow

what would be a comp that doesnt fall under any of those

[stuck radish]

flying roadhog

thats what

[willow tartan]

thats a hero not a comp

[north relic]

put everything into jjonak and let him kill everything

[stuck radish]

no you would get an echo and a mercy to make the roadhog fly

therefore its a comp

[willow tartan]

echo mercy roadhog

echo mercy roadhog pharah (?)

[north relic]

echo pharah

what comp would that be

[willow tartan]

poke

[hot onyx]

Fireflys

[devout path]

Echo and pharah pick up roadhog and lift him to highground

[balmy wolf]

flying roadhog

[willow tartan]

and then they drop him on enemies to deal fatal damage

[hot onyx]

Give roadhog baps exoboots

[stuck radish]

dude brawl is going to be so bad

[devout path]

True

[stuck radish]

whats rein gonna do against ball

[willow tartan]

Give reinhardt defense matrix.

[hot onyx]

His best

[stuck radish]

true

[devout path]

Stop talking about ow2 meta when we know literally nothing about the reworks

[north relic]

homing rein charge

[willow tartan]

why is wj in s+ tier

[hot onyx]

Seen it, what kind of idiot believes Justice 3rd?

[willow tartan]

knock wj shock and atlanta down because we all know those teams are gonna fail

[stuck radish]

because of their god tier support line

[tacit skiff]

idk

[willow tartan]

fuel glads chengdu and dragons all i can see winning

[noble nexus]

y'all thinking this through like it's serious

kinda weird idk

if it was serious Justice would be a tier above everyone else

[willow tartan]

hey why isnt seoul on the tier list where are they?

[stuck radish]

nah i dont see chengdu winning unless shanghai drops the ball really hard

[willow tartan]

i guess in any meta chengdu does good shanghai does great

[hot onyx]

Ikr, Profit always shows up for playoffs

[north relic]

chengdu wins with a double ball meta

[willow tartan]

ballsack comp

[stuck radish]

play ga9a on ball and ameng on echo so he can dupe enemy ball

[devout path]

Why is no one taking into consideration gesture hog?

Seoul could get carried this playoffs by gesture hog

[willow tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745768601671303231/886941262027051038/alltimedeathsowl.png

[north relic]

is there a deaths per 10 stat

i want to see that

[devout path]

Probs gesture

[stuck radish]

yeah houston could get carried in the playoffs by danteh too

[devout path]

Bro teru so good

[hot onyx]

Yes and the entire sheet is filled with Stand1’s death count

[tacit skiff]

Boston Uprising's So0n

[stuck radish]

is meko still a player

[hot onyx]

Idk

[devout path]

Mano has more deaths

[hot onyx]

Last played for the Outlaws in season 3

[hot onyx]

Not per 10

[willow tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745768601671303231/887126646186967111/deaths10.png

[stuck radish]

sad way to end your OWL career

[devout path]

Who tf is bunny

[stuck radish]

chipsa at 7.2

[earnest leaf]

old player

[willow tartan]

bunny LAV s2

[devout path]

Wow mykaylee so low

[earnest leaf]

bunny was on valiant early on

[hot onyx]

Bunny this di-

[willow tartan]

that doesnt make any sense

[devout path]

Loser

[crude wing]

hi

[hot onyx]

Uprising fan

[willow tartan]

but anyway Checkmate

[north relic]

fleta getting close to 5000th fb

[devout path]

Ayyy chipsa finally made a top 10 of something

[hot onyx]

What the fuck is a “JIQIREN”?

[willow tartan]

old cdh mt

[north relic]

how do you check the per 10 stat

[hot onyx]

Didn’t Chengdu have Ameng and Ating in season 2?

[willow tartan]

rate ranks

[north relic]

i see

[willow tartan]

chipsa has the most final blows per 10 and elims per 10

15.7 and 25.3

[devout path]

Told you chipsa best player in the world

[balmy wolf]

i dont watch esports but sure i agree

[hot onyx]

Rare footage of Lily supporting Fusion history

[willow tartan]

xzi most solo kills per 10

[north relic]

15.7 is pretty impressive

[devout path]

Ok but is xzi chipsa

Didn’t think so

[stuck radish]

he played one map against vancouver on s3 philly

[willow tartan]

they play different roles you cant compare them

[devout path]

I can and I will

[north relic]

is it different

[willow tartan]

im checcking alltime stats

[stuck radish]

striker

sadge

[hot onyx]

You guys better be quaking in your boots for when Zuppeh and Zebosai come back to the League

[devout path]

Decrease playtime minimum

[north relic]

oh shit chipsa insane

[willow tartan]

for just this season hydration has the most final blows and elims per 10

[north relic]

apperently choi has the most timed played in the league?

[willow tartan]

what about jjonak

[north relic]

i just put the minutes minimum to max and got choi only

[devout path]

153.3 healing per 10

Jjonak has never been benched right

[hot onyx]

What about Fate?

[willow tartan]

honestly makes sense

shock win = play tournament = more play time

[north relic]

yea remember that time shock played that stage tourney

this year

[willow tartan]

tickled the slider a little bit and the next one to pop up is viol2t which confirms my suspicion

[north relic]

void is next

[devout path]

Viol2t gets benched a bunch

Jjonak never benched so jjonak > Viol2t

[hot onyx]

Where does Mistakes pop up there?

[north relic]

he benched glister on hs

[willow tartan]

he benched striker on hitscan

[north relic]

next most played player is mano

[willow tartan]

then profit

[devout path]

Also was Viol2t even in season 1

[willow tartan]

ya

[north relic]

then jjonak and SADO2L

[devout path]

What team

[willow tartan]

shock

[hot onyx]

Seoul made a big mistake keeping Profit and releasing Illicit smh

Poor management

[devout path]

What

[hot onyx]

shock

[willow tartan]

dont worry, arnold is going to do an aggressive rebuild

[hot onyx]

Lily

[north relic]

wdym viol2t was on justice season 1

[hot onyx]

Are you illiterate

[devout path]

What

[willow tartan]

Sorry, the San Francisco Shock.

[devout path]

Sorry I can’t hear you over my complete intellectual superiority

[north relic]

"boston beats justice"

[tawdry hamlet]

They should take the top two teams, give them each a player, and then scrim to see the difference between the one player with all other variables isolated, like take haksal vs whoru on Dallas vs LAG and isolate who the better genji is type thing

[willow tartan]

Your skull is so thick that the sound waves that I produce cannot penetrate your dense cranium.

[north relic]

does actually having a thick skull do anything

[tawdry hamlet]

Either that or we need enough games to allow funny players to play because this year I missed silly bad players

[north relic]

resign chipsa

[devout path]

Mykaylee

[hot onyx]

Endures more bonks before being sent to horny jail

[willow tartan]

trade void and hanbin

no difference

[hot onyx]

Trade Kai and Dalton

No difference

[tawdry hamlet]

[north relic]

yea titans cant do worse

[willow tartan]

though actually i think void is dragon's IGL

so maybe difference.

[north relic]

isnt fate a known igl

[devout path]

Trade seominsoo and lip

No difference

[tawdry hamlet]

I do wonder how shtockwave vs Kai plays out since widow 1v1 tells us nothing because they were both out in first round iirc loll

[earnest leaf]

Trade viol2t with izayaki

[willow tartan]

no

no

no

[earnest leaf]

see how izayaki does on shock and viol2t on shd

[north relic]

viol2t on shd seems cursed

someone go edit it

[earnest leaf]

bro viol2t was undisputedly the best FS last season, man still a nut

[tawdry hamlet]

Leejaegon violet is as meme worthy as fdgod violet in terms of aggressiveness

[hot onyx]

sHockWave lost to Linkzr and Kai lost to SoOn, so yes they mean nothing lmao

[north relic]

imo leejaegon is even more aggro then fd

[earnest leaf]

Leejaegon is korean fdgod

[north relic]

why do you properly capitalize shokwave everytime

[earnest leaf]

except better at brig

[willow tartan]

you could've ended with "except better"

though that is implied with "korean"

[north relic]

both are role stars

[hot onyx]

Because chad Niclas deserves the respect of his ign being spelt properly

[willow tartan]

yeah but full korea comms is better for the shock isnt it

[earnest leaf]

My point is they are very similar lucios

they will either kill 3 for you

[north relic]

yea fuck super!!!!!

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder if moth is still the best mercy anymore. Or how tf we even rate mercy anymore

[earnest leaf]

or ajax and die 5 times in 2 minutes

[willow tartan]

who has played the most mercy this szn

[north relic]

glock kills

[devout path]

Moth has barely played mercy

[tawdry hamlet]

Jake best mercy

[earnest leaf]

You know what would be really cool

replace ans with lip

[devout path]

No

[earnest leaf]

see what lip does with shock and ans with shd

[hot onyx]

You know what would be awesome?

[north relic]

oh shit shock actually play sombra?

[hot onyx]

Shock rebuilding from a structure of Smurf Nero and Twilight

[tawdry hamlet]

Swap ans and fits and see what happens since they're similar players

[north relic]

smurf prolly retires next year sadge

[tawdry hamlet]

Well what happens is Seoul sucks ass on every other role hehe

[earnest leaf]

why those 3

[devout path]

Normal Seoul business

[earnest leaf]

Shock doesn't really have any poor individual players

[hot onyx]

Easily the most consistently good

[north relic]

i dont want to drop choi

[willow tartan]

swap twilight with faraway

no difference

[hot onyx]

Depending wether you get a better OT offer depends on Choi stoppage

[tawdry hamlet]

Like fits Sombra > Ans Sombra but Fits = ans flicking I think. Then fits also does actually have tracer if he had to play over profit I think

[north relic]

we have seen ans tracer

[tawdry hamlet]

[hot onyx]

Like honestly

[devout path]

We have also seen lip doom

[hot onyx]

Clestyn > Choi atm

[tawdry hamlet]

Imagine fits on lag, he's literally birdring but better

Or fits on mayhem

That'd be sweet

[north relic]

bqb off mayhem weird

[devout path]

Ok but does fits have a doom

[north relic]

i think we have seen it

[tawdry hamlet]

Bqb is too limited he need Sombra and tracer and higher sense

[hot onyx]

Fits ChoiSehWan on Charge

[north relic]

we have yaki for tracer

[tawdry hamlet]

But yaki plays echo and every other flex

[hot onyx]

With Cr0ng and Kellan from Talon Esports

[tawdry hamlet]

Sombra also bqb lacking on which is instrumental when playing with tracer

[devout path]

Me for jjonak

[north relic]

gg

[devout path]

Same thing

[hot onyx]

Elsa sombra goated

[willow tartan]

yveltal has played the most mercy this szn

[hot onyx]

Not Kellex?

[willow tartan]

idk its by percentage based i have no idea how to show total hours

but he has 7 hours on mercy so thats decent

[north relic]

percentage based its gotta be viol2t right

[hot onyx]

Odd way to spell “Jake”

[north relic]

jake brig otp

[willow tartan]

no its actually crimzo

[north relic]

i heard coach jake was a god mercy though

[willow tartan]

100% mercy pickrate whenever he's playing main support

(2 seconds)

[north relic]

who has the most time on bastion

[hot onyx]

All time or this season?

[north relic]

season

[hot onyx]

Probably Profit

Only because I remember him picking bastion once to stall on 2nd point hanamura defence vs NYXL one time

And succeeded

[willow tartan]

its profit

he has 3:19

[north relic]

3 hours right

[hot onyx]

Wahey suck my balls and nuts

[devout path]

Didn’t fleta play bastion on eichenwalde one time

[willow tartan]

25 seconds for fleta

[hot onyx]

Didn’t I play with your mom one time

[raw ermine]

molanran best bastion

[devout path]

No you didn’t

[hot onyx]

Sorry I meant dad

[devout path]

You didn’t still

[willow tartan]

second place is mirror with 2:29

[hot onyx]

Prove it

[devout path]

Ok

[hot onyx]

i grow impatient

[north relic]

You seem very patient waiting for fusion to get good

[balmy wolf]

So, I'm going to be switching from controller to mouse and keyboard. Any thing exceptionally different im gonna have to do?

[hot onyx]

It’s not patience it’s a disease

[north relic]

How do you catch it

[willow tartan]

Expect to suck. A lot.

You will need to essentially rebuild all that muscle memory.

[hot onyx]

Done the exact same thing and I know how the transition feels, just experiment with different sensitivity settings and don’t expect to be immediately as good as you were on console since it takes time to rebuild your brain around the mkb

[balmy wolf]

Nah, I'm a mercy main, no muscle memory there lol. Just brainless heal slut.

[willow tartan]

heal slut does not mean what you think it means

[north relic]

Would you say controller to mkb is easier than the other way around

[hot onyx]

Blood and saliva transmitted

[balmy wolf]

It does.... it very much does😈

[hot onyx]

Personally yes

[north relic]

So how did you kiss another fusion fan

[raw ermine]

were you making out with a fusion fan Sans?

[north relic]

Is Lily’s dad secretly a fusion fan

[hot onyx]

No a Fusion fan donated blood

I didn’t need it

Just felt rude to decline

And that was around season 1 stage 1

[tawdry hamlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/pneljg/kalios_singing_let_it_go_at_a_karaoke/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[north relic]

I saw that and got depressed nenne is gone

[hot onyx]

Back when I watched OWL for the loud and wacky Canadian main tank

God life was simple as a 2018 Dallas “fan”

[tawdry hamlet]

Can someone from the Asian region tell me if shameless karaoke is more common over there or if I'm just anxious and it's popular over here too. Because I swear half the time I see Asians go out and post pics it's at a karaoke place

[north relic]

Idk

Seems like a lot of teams do it

And all Koreans are somehow good at karaoke

[willow tartan]

idk what you mean by shameless

[hot onyx]

Sorry man. Not Asian, can’t confirm.

[willow tartan]

its sharing the fact that you are having fun with your friends

night out for karaoke

[north relic]

No but like if you had to sing in front of your friends

[willow tartan]

that's what a karaoke place is for.

[north relic]

A lot of people would be anxious

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't mean shameless, I mean like just full try hard karaoke fun without any self consciousness is that more common or what. Since karaoke I've seen over here is usually super awkward until drinks are ingested

[willow tartan]

depends on the ppl you go with ig

[tawdry hamlet]

likely so since I've always been more introverted

[willow tartan]

the types of people that go to karaoke bars in the first place are the people that aren't anxious about it lol

or else why would they go

[north relic]

peer pressure idk

[willow tartan]

who is the one peer pressuring if everyone is anxious about it

[hot onyx]

Ayo Michael I’d go to karaoke with you but I can’t promise it’d be a shameless experience hanging with a Bri ish Fusion fan

[north relic]

The drunk mercy main

[tawdry hamlet]

Well I was also curious because I have two asian friends and both their dads sing around the house constantly so I didn't know it was like culturally relevant lmaooo

Like to the point where every discord call has singing in the background not just the usual humming lmao, must just be coincidence

[willow tartan]

big dick move

[tawdry hamlet]

[north relic]

Sounds like some dad shenanigans

[hot onyx]

Guys spell “true true” but without “ru tru”

[north relic]

Tee?

[willow tartan]

''t500_7500''

[hot onyx]

I didn’t know you played golf

[north relic]

What kind of joke is that

[hot onyx]

The worst kind

[north relic]

I play torb golf

[hot onyx]

Chad

But do you sing along to the frozen soundtrack whilst intoxicated before shooting each putt?

[north relic]

No

[hot onyx]

Sad life you lead

But at the same time

Profit will show up to playoffs

He’s never failed to pop off during playoff time not even in season 2 he is the goated dps player and he will carry the Dynasty to another grand fi- zzzz

[sullen berry]

Tower defense Bastion, Hollywood

Spent a good 4 hours on and off only to have Sym teleporters and Bap fields to save us

[next mesa]

yeah he does and its fucking nasty

[devout path]

Ok but does fits win tournaments

[next mesa]

seoul is too heavy cant deadlift

[worn falcon]

Profit too heavy

[tropic herald]

“According to Assassin, the Justice’s biggest problem this season has been communication.”

https://t.co/l1VUguCLP0

[gusty rampart]

Not far at all

[devout path]

Wow no way

[earnest leaf]

saying philly plays well in playoffs

good one

[devout path]

Ah yes philly in playoffs always performs well

Iconic even for performing in playoffs

Unlike Seoul who never performs well in playoffs

[tropic herald]

I mean,,, Philly was top 2 NA last year

And they made finals s1

So that’s like better than half of the teams

[balmy wolf]

true, however philly either flops horribly like s1 gf and in final 4 or they lose by the smallest margins like last year against paris

[next mesa]

honestly

summer showdown was their tourney to win

their side of the bracket was easy as fuck

paris still beat them after coming off of a hard W against shock

[balmy wolf]

eqo gives hope and then takes away their hope

[tropic herald]

Seoul 🤝 Philly 🤝 Houston

[stuck radish]

"others, like the san francisco shock or philiadelphia fusion, may not have had the best season, but have a history of performing well in the postseason"

i dont think philly does well in the postseason ever since s1

[next mesa]

they were good in s3 like only 4 teams made it to GF still

[balmy wolf]

i dont think they made playoffs in s2

[next mesa]

even though they flopped

[tropic herald]

Philly did fine last year, they were still in the top 4

[stuck radish]

they planked in the postseason though

[earnest leaf]

philly did what shock did this year

good in regular season

sucked every time it mattered

[tropic herald]

If they planked in post season then why did they come top 4 in the post season

Surely that means every other team except 3 planked

[earnest leaf]

because na last year had no competition tbf

It was shock/philly 99% of the time then paris's one off tourney win

[stuck radish]

the strongest team aside from shock/philly in NA was hog zarya one tricks

[tropic herald]

NA was free as hell for no reason

[balmy wolf]

welcome to NA

[tropic herald]

Fucking Valiant were top 5 right???

[earnest leaf]

Same with apac last season tbh

[stuck radish]

yeah

[balmy wolf]

at least NA is doing well in Valorant so far

[earnest leaf]

Was SHD just better than everyone

[tropic herald]

Vision strikers

[stuck radish]

shock was better than shanghai at least in their match

[next mesa]

Vision strikers vs sentinels GF

cant believe they kinda spanked acend

[earnest leaf]

I think shock was better than shd the whole season besides the countdown cup

[tropic herald]

Ok wait I shouldn’t have started this here

[next mesa]

LMAO

[tropic herald]

Go to gd if you wanna talk about masters

[earnest leaf]

I think that stage shd would have beaten shock at that comp

[next mesa]

ayt

[earnest leaf]

but it would have been close

[balmy wolf]

i think dragons were better in moria/winston comp last year

[earnest leaf]

which was countdown cup I think

may melee was orisa ashe

summer showdown was genji

then countdown was winston dive and what not

[balmy wolf]

countcup also had a lot of double bubble

[stuck radish]

genji meta was awful to play imo

like sure it was good to watch in OWL

but playing ow and playing against broken ass genji every game was not fun at all

[earnest leaf]

The issue with that meta was that it was just a double shield meta disguised as a genji meta

[stuck radish]

genji made it exponentially more aids for me

[tropic herald]

Genji wasn’t even that hard for that meta

It was literally an alpha test

[balmy wolf]

so op didnt even need nano to get value out of blade

[next mesa]

genji itself wasn't even like that op

its just brig and orisa was too good

[stuck radish]

wtf yes he was

[tropic herald]

Wait did armor still overheal that tourney

[earnest leaf]

genji was unironically overtuned at the time

[stuck radish]

i think it did yea

[balmy wolf]

genji legit was a better reaper in that patch

[earnest leaf]

and yes armor from packs was still a thing

[tropic herald]

I cannot believe overheal is a thing that was in this game

[stuck radish]

genji was broken especially on ladder

even without a brig pocket

[earnest leaf]

remember brig could one shot combo a tracer at one point

[tropic herald]

Stun through shield

[earnest leaf]

god brig was an actual menace

[balmy wolf]

ha holy shit the shield bash back then

[stuck radish]

also apparently it used to be easier to hit shield bash

[next mesa]

yes

[stuck radish]

there was a nerf where they reduced the cone of effect or whatever iirc

[forest raven]

Shield bash on release

[earnest leaf]

and her shield had 600 hp before iirc

[stuck radish]

yep

[earnest leaf]

and people defended it

[stuck radish]

50 damage shield bash

stun through shields

[next mesa]

busted as fuck

[forest raven]

600hp shield, bashed through shields, 50 damage, 5 second cd

[balmy wolf]

bap and brig were my supports to climb in rank

too easy

[earnest leaf]

I nearly hit gm off bapt when he was broken

[forest raven]

Plat players hit gm off release brig

[earnest leaf]

being mid masters at best on support on lucio only

[balmy wolf]

brig my fav support tho, that goats skin is amazing

[tropic herald]

I can still hit GM w brig she’s easy

Nerf her again

[forest raven]

Empathy

You can't get out of gold

[tropic herald]

Never touched gold in my life

You know who has

[forest raven]

That's because you're poor

[tropic herald]

Choihyobin

Empathy > Choihyobin

[earnest leaf]

I was gold way back in s2-3

[forest raven]

Fucking gold players

I was gold in season 2 and then I climbed to plat in like 2 games

And now I don't play ranked

[balmy wolf]

i remember my days as a silver player

just pain

not as bad as OG double shield

[worn falcon]

This is full copium

Chengdu have more chances than Philly

[fervent acorn]

If y'all watch full Overwatch League playoffs you get 220-230 tokens + 100 bonus from grand finals

oof

[next mesa]

thats cracked

[next mesa]

dats true

i think philly peak wont be able to beat even chengdu

[gusty rampart]

Wait if that true

I should be able to get most of all stars

Tbh

I could probably get all the 3 for 3 on the first day

It's 4 matches like holy shit

[forest raven]

I'm strongly considering buying tokens

[gusty rampart]

I'm broke or I would

I did for the other vault

Honestly as long as I get Rein and Lucio I'm good

I'm at 195 tokens ;-;

I actually want to die

[cobalt spoke]

Why don’t you use that money on something and get some bitches

Also Hi

[forest raven]

I'm in lockdown

[gusty rampart]

No one asked

[forest raven]

[gusty rampart]

Sadge

I'm forced to leave the house for school

Unlucky I miss most of encore

[forest raven]

I'm gonna ruin my sleep schedule so much to farm tokens

[cobalt spoke]

Unlooky

[gusty rampart]

I'm probably going to put on and find away to lock my screen

[cobalt spoke]

Yo so who do you guys think wins owl?

[forest raven]

Shanghai

[gusty rampart]

I wish I could just put it on my laptop before I leave

Shock or Shanghai

[cobalt spoke]

Hmm

Shanghai picked shock

[gusty rampart]

No one has any idea how that will go

[cobalt spoke]

I think we might have the most hype match off the start

[gusty rampart]

Tru

[forest raven]

Shanghai Shock is the 3rd match

[gusty rampart]

They're all hype matches except Fuel vs Justice

[tawdry hamlet]

If it wasn't ten dollars a skin id just buy them but I've gotten every other skin free in the past and already have 195 now so no sense stopping

[gusty rampart]

I was able to get them all free unless they fucking drop 6 of them

I wish they would release them slowly

Not enough OWL

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean if they release them slowly you'll still get the same amount of tokens you just won't spend them all at once

[gusty rampart]

(Money omegalul)

I was stupid and bought 15 different skins

[tawdry hamlet]

The only skin I didn't get that was available this year is pirate ship bastion because I knew another vault was coming and I don't use him

[gusty rampart]

I bought Shanghai Sombra (for Lip) even though I never play Sombra

[tawdry hamlet]

Me when I have Chengdu ball 🏀

[gusty rampart]

I got Shanghai Ball

And Lucio

Dripping too hard

I just want Contenders Lucio ;-;

Will I be the first first point on Jinmu has only made one facial expression this whole season?

[keen abyss]

my c# quiz gets it

[gusty rampart]

Ok Glads fan

[keen abyss]

i don't see the issue here

[gusty rampart]

Shields Down omegalul

[devout path]

That’s so basic

[keen abyss]

yeah

and?

[devout path]

I learned that in like 6th grade

[next mesa]

Wow cool teacher

[keen abyss]

it's an entry community college course for people learning how to code

a few weeks in

[next mesa]

That's great man

Good for you lily's a #hater

So awesome

[devout path]

Trueing

[tawdry hamlet]

Bqb did the same

[balmy wolf]

bro

wtf

i just read some shit on blizz forums

[willow tartan]

what hap?

[balmy wolf]

are these ppl real?

[willow tartan]

your average plat player

[balmy wolf]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/why-i-have-yet-to-not-despise-mercys-current-state/182707

wtf

average bronze mercy who has no clue about her character

thats the ppl blizzard needs to listen to

no wonder this game is dying

[willow tartan]

Killing a Mercy repeatedly does not impede upon their ability to return and use Resurrect; the only thing Mercy needs to have Resurrect available is time, and nothing in the game can deprive her of that.