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how many chinese teams we have
5?
yeah 5 I think
3 chinese teams rn
6 next season tho
valiant?
5
Valiant
idk if that counts though

Valiant
shanghai doesnt really count imo since its full of korean players
don't fix what's not broken
london is made up of non eu players
Valiant and Shanghai are ran by Chinese orgs
Yes
because they're dumb
because they the top 2 teams
Those are the two people questioned
I don't think we were questioning their orgs tho
isn't valiant owned by immortals 
Owned but it sure as hell isn’t ran by immortals
i own paris
Silver3 was robbed of an MVP nomination
dont stab me with a baugette
stop
im not french
i know, it's really tough to hear he wasn't an MVP nominee
but you own paris
i own you
kinky
give this channel tts perms

please do not
kinda weird idk
i dont wanna be playing a game and then hear someone call me a degenerate for liking paris
monkaS
you were already losing anyways
i dont lose
Cant lose if you havent won this season, am i right comrade.
shut up
No
jk ily
he's lying
even tho u support a shit team
Ess this is anime betrayal
Spark star player is Misaka Mikoto and Guxue, i agree
who
the anime girl probably
asked?
The only female pro gamer currently in OWL
Team Spark are proud to announce that we are partnering with the Bilibili herself, Misaka Mikoto from "A Certain Scientific Railgun T", who joins the squad as an Honorary Member with jersey #3. May the Railgun power help us to prevail in the Playoffs!
#SPARKxRAILGUN #sparkbang
1365
5962
isnt on liquidpedia
ur not
someone go sign god or smth
but onigod is already in owl
shut up
Regular man
For the record I’m not betraying spark
It’s just that their out rn
And I need some sort of hopium train to hop on
Being a justice fan is basically like being a spark fan
So I chose them
I just joined OW so idk what teams are best lol
yea valiant is probably the favorite after winning stage 4
san francisco shock
los angeles gladiators
Shanghai dragons
philidelphia fusion
washington justice
dallas fuel
atlanta reign
chengdu hunters
How many stages are there? Lol
I heard dragons lost already
playoffs didn't start yet
Well like I said I’m new and stupid to this kinda esports thing
they were the worst team by far season 1, so that's probably where you heard it from.
Ah
there are 4 stages
stage 4 just finished
valiant won stage 4
he probably means they getting knocked out in cc
If the Valiant had gone 7-0 in the CC, would they have been able to qualify for playins?
would it have been enough points to beat the Spark?
Rooting for Uprising Academy letsgoo
I don’t think so
How many points does spark have
7
But tourney points mean less for tiebreaker
that'd be really disappointing for the Valiant
imagine if the LAV, Spitfire or Titans managed to 7-0
but still couldn't get in
yes
cause bonus league points
tiebreaker first goes to map differential
wait nvm tournament matches dont count map differential
Why didn’t anybody notify me when Uprising Academy signed Itsal and QoQ?
God tier tankline
Actually smurfing in NA Contenders
Wait NA has good games tonight wtf
literal grand finals
If only we had these kinds of players on the Uprising
I don't see why they don't use Stellar in the league
Stellar > Im37
why do you trust NA contenders as a metric
Stellar only better on tracer
He should be their tracer player tho
Give boston heesu sado stellar
And u have a p nutty team
Stellar had the injustice of being on the TD, like Decay on the Fuel, Sparkle on the Eternal, Crimzo on the Outlaws
Sparkle on the eternal and crimzo on Houston?
Que?
How are those injustice
Paris were top 4 while not having him for half a season
And crimzo aint even a top 3 starter on houston
Danteh or happy would have been better examples
If you don't realize that's wrong with both those teams, then you haven't been watching
Not feeding you any longer bye
No im genuinly curios
How was sparkle Paris injustice
They finished top 4 regular season and won a title
And crimzo isnt bad but he suits Houston they are a mid table team
Also Stellar and Toronto in general did quite well when he was there for stage 1 S2
Toronto went to shit after he left
crimzo's play has not really impressed me as standout
Thats because he isnt a standout
watch Oasis vs the Justice, really impressed me there
He didnt do anything special that map
idk, i feel like crimzo's peak is similar to houston's peak
Hes p much a healbot that ocasionaly feeds or ocasionaly frags
just really upper mid
Crimzo is great when he can get enabled
Que
Thats Not his role
He is the enabler
His entire OWL career has been him.enabling ppl
Spark gonna rise next year, with the power of anime
Like decay danteh or jjangu for example
they sign mikasa to play flex support
Oasis was a great example of that, he was out putting enough damage and healing to build Trans up fast enough every fight
she dominates as hard as jjonak in s1
hey I mean the spark got rid of a xenophobe so they're going in the right direction if you ask me
Thats pretty common for flex supps that arent named.ripa or roolf
Or bebe
When they stop playing arraging chairs coach edition.
theyll do that when they move to NA
its the apac curse of team structure rotating every stage
apac needs more team to rotate forever
a Chinese team moving to na, yeah right
Anyways can someone pls explaim to me how sparkle Paris and fuel decay are similar?
i mean for EU and APAC viewers getting more matches
@hot onyx
instead having to no sleep to watch NA teams
Fielder
who's in playoffs
Xzi :sadge:
i mean
Soon, don't remind me
top 5
oh my nitro ran out
the tragedy of losing Soon this season
they still got dumpstered by all the teams above them
Benworst
Lost Soon to Valorant rip
Agreed
Yes?
dumpstered????
By whoom
Especialy considering Paris players literally wanted to stay together
If london changes Hadi for Benbest would improve to b tier team
that's because of a one off stupid meta
a 3-1 isnt a dumpster
Hadi literally dicked benbest in EU
who's in playoffs, Carpe or Profit
Any EU MT would look like shit in London
WhoRU
I just threw up in my mouth
But Benbest was way better than Hadi in his OWL Career
yeah but the league was worse when benbest was in
Yeah because he had a top tier coaching Staff and a top tier surrounding cast
The 2 most important outside factors for MTs
What's the point of having so many players when you just bench them for an entire season
substitutes.
When he and hadi jad even playground hadi fucked him
Geguri type beat
what if your star dps player has a collapsed lung and you need a substitute to be able to fly to participate
Benbest didnt even outperform Daan.
Yes on a top tier team w a top tier coaching staff
When put in a situation to succeed
he did
yeah
thats all that matters
he was set up to do well
He did great sure
then you put your mt on dps
reverse checkmate
He needed to not hold back sparkle and hanbin
But once he Lacked those top tier ressources He became bad again
He just needed to look hot and not throw
If He was on London London would unironicsly be even worse
youd still need a substitute either way you pepege
For a EU MT hadi is good
yeah cause synergy
There is no better Option
but Hadi isnt hot enough to play for 2020 paris
no-no, that's what we have a third support for
EU MTs in General just kinfa blow
that's a substitute
he wouldnt fill the role
you can only have 2 supports in the field at any given time
He would be better than daan
support on tank
100%
myunbong Winston
not rn
But doesnt matter MuZe is better anyways
hadi is dogshit
Silver3 > Hadi
I mean hes an EU MT what do u expect
silver3 > all of eu
silver3 > all of owl
Hadi had the same team who won Contenders , same coaching too and yet was so bad
exactly
you're comparing owl to contenders
that just shows how underdeveloped Europe is as a region
they had not excuse of synergy or anything
EU contenders is just open divison
teenagers to legit pros
Hadi made so many individual mistakes
man was just a feeder like roar
EU contenders is like Korean CSGO
But besides that it doesnt matter
korean cs turned into VS
Contenders is so hectic
I love the variety in team comps sometimes
I'm genuinely having so much fun watching this match
and VS still get fked by other regions
or well, should be unless some major spaghetti spills happen
no...
????
any people hyping contenders makes me skeptic of them, no matter if KR, China or NA
they havent played yet
lol
But F4Q played well today
and VS is better than them
my finger is getting callused from typing so much
no im saying that the korean valorant region is still weaker
f4q took G2 the distance
Like hyping Muze, Mag, Kevster and saying they gonna stomp teams
The amount of people hyping Kevster was insane.
hyping up fearless coming out of 2019 contenders 
Kevster definitely lived up to the hype for tracer
His echo is also really solid, but otherwise his other heroes aren't mind blowing
With Kevster echo my main gripe was him playing the clones
As Echo, yeah agree solid
gg wasabi boomed
as clone they sucked.
yaki 4 shatter 
offroling so you get better at echo dupes
you guys be talking about owl or something but we can simply just watch na tendies and bask in the glory of UA
i mean theyre fighting a team with a dps on mt
Confidence is key.
He didnt have the same coaching and no danne+London just boomed
fake it till you make it
Benbest did bad in europe
You're gonna need confidence when you charge into the enemy team like that
He literalky wssnt good in EU contenders when he went back
@worn falcon London Spitfire and Hadi had the same coaches except elbion. so my theory is just elbion diff.
so many free ult charge
Crazy ua went from bottom 3 to top 3 with just tank changes
to 1st 
remember 3 months ago with gig adam tankline where they were insta eliminated
yeah but they had a tank change inbetween that and current
yeah they had dank for a bit

I like gig as a dude but he kind of bottom tier 
big dva bomb sheesh
I meant they went like bottom 3, top 3, top 2
with only tank changes
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wtf
its over
pickems boomed
brooo that bomb placement
acc winnable
ok loseable too
feelsbad
no wayw they lose
oh no
UA?
What is UA
uprising academy
4-0verwatch moment
what contenders skins do you get
ana parah
thats been there for so long lol
Many would
weeeeeeb
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these are adorable... i translated the messages to english so everyone can see how wholesome this rivalry is (and also that lip and leejaegon are a nightmare duo) https://t.co/R53kGPbPcx
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And to seoul I say, drown them all
The parts that they have are salvageable
Until you wind up performing exactly the same during the regular season
Make it to playoffs
and almost predictably not get anywhere farther than grand finals to better competition on the other side
To hit that peak isnt worth it when you spent all regular season losing to a worse chengdu and a superior charge roster to do the playoffs pop off and nothing more
Charge?
Yes well endowed belly snorlax
Da charge
Summer showdown champion of 2020
Who beat shanghai, reverse sweeper and may melee champion of 2020
What has seoul won, i'm dying for someone to tell me
didnt paris win the summer showdown in 2020
2 diff tourneys remember
oh yeah i forgot they were separated by region
oh damn it
it's weekend again
and i've missed shitloads of matches probably again -.-
i can't see anything .. are there no matches?
damn
how many wins did SHD have?
in the regular season?
this month
this montht hey didnt play
😮
i can't see crap on owl site
ah found it
whats up with justice?
new lineup or what's going on?
wym whats up with justice
last time i was watching them, they weren't playing that proper. 3-2 to outlaws 😮
3-0 to paris 😮
outlaws threw, paris bad, justice improving
outlaws threw? 😄
yes outlaws played bad
paris isn't bad, for a team with no koreans
they dropped some maps they shouldnt have
hm ok
how many teams are there with non-asians? (not being racist here)
3?
titans, reign and paris. right?
what about titans?
changsik is korean
ok. so they've gotten themself a korean player in the last weeks?
changsik came in mid season did he not?
teru was start
hm, last time i've checked their team (in july or august) they were playing with no korean player
titans
💀
yea, cause i ain't following OWL so damn hard like you 🙂
eeww nasteh
hard following owl of course
ye it is, if you ain't having the time. sorry
what?
Why not take this time to rewatch the games you missed? It's a free weekend
Also titans have always had a Korean in Teru since the start of the season
Changsik didn't come in until June Joust qualifier to replace shredlock
will probably do so, once i find the time
Yeah I was thinking now, or around the time some dude here asked if he could learn how to watch an OWL VOD
the most interesting once only, though. probably both justice and phily matches
Philly was a ride, much like Washington
Have to see how spark was as lost as Vancouver titans
does that replayer still work? and if yes, how huge is the delay from the live match until you can watch it with that viewer?
It would normally take a few days after the weeks matches have all ended. They should be up already, just download and check it
gonna check now
Philly sadge
yup, the games from last weekend are already on the owl viewer. nice!! gonna watch them matches later tonite 🙂
Any Sadge seoul fans
Any sadge charge fans
Footage of when Charge had 5 good players instead of 2
Cuesta said a cursed thing
It was something about profit to NYXL
Now im imagining a flora profit dps line
and i instantly lost
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Aggresive rebuild
Drop Marve1 and Gesture r my guesses
maybe gesture to coach
Sign NoHill cause they already have anti china with SBB
Maybe Sanguinar
Maybe Yaho cause they said aggresive
please for the love of god keep profits
???
profit will just rot on the bench like every flex dps that ever joined nyxl
I mean fair enough
NYXL is where careers go to die
But imagine that sombra tracer
Or mei cree
or gwangboong profit ashe tracer
lmfaooo
also yaho? out of all kr mts yaho?
Sign vindaim let's go
antichina kekw
pro western china
If sbb doesn't retire to become content creator I'll honestly be surprised
After pine retires again bring he and sbb back to nyxl as a content creator
Actually a tracer specialist might help nyxl
wasn't the issue with nyxl that their tank line was incredibly mediocre
and friday was super meh
Yea
But flora is both their sombra and tracer as well I think
Kalios is fine though
Replace yakpung Friday
Kalios is great but its not hard to replace Bianca and look good
I was thinking this but for Jjonak
I think it'd be nice for Jjonak to be turned into a figure piece of the NYXL and turned into a content creator
JJoNak ain't gonna retire I bet
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Based
How do you get league tokens by watching owl?
Connect ur battle net acc on yt and watch
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Huh? Flora has been fucking
Yakpung friday meh feath5r inconsistent and NYXL coaches bad
jjonak is still an upgrade on a decent few teams for fs
Yes but he is also their best Sombra player
JJonak sombra would like a word
Yea and put Bianca on ana
What happened
Arnold from Gen.G (Seoul Dynasty) said after their 3-1 loss to the Philadelphia Fusion that an “aggressive rebuild” is going to happen to prepare for OW2
is creative just forgotten about or is he actually not that good?
I was under the impression creative was decent
Creative zen and ana could be S tier but his bap is pretty bad
Like I wouldn't mind
If we kept him
Like he's ayt
Toyou too like I wouldnt be like omg why didn't we drop toyou
He has moments of greatness
But I also wouldn't be mind if seoul signed better contendies talent
Flex supports are just really stacked and creative is meh
Like there is mmonk shu izayaki fielder alarm and Bebe
lmao I was trolling
Creative is excruciatingly mid
He's fine, he's not holding back Seoul.
should've focus'd on the ring in both pics imo
Seoul's game plan is tanks and supports try to not throw long enough for Profits to win the game for them
they could be keeping gesture just in case roadhog becomes good in ow2
Lmao ow2 where hog specialist exists
sadge for all the dva and zarya specialists in OWL/contenders
Wdym isn’t off tank just dva specialist

Unless double shield in which case 😡
For me the mid flex support game went like Myunb0ng>MCD>Creative>Bebe>Lastro>Kariv 
Lastro has been excruciatingly worse this year for some reason
Myunbongs been ayt

They are
thoughts on space?
I like Space
Most aggro dva in the league
Very good player
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i srsly don't like super, because of his boasting aditude. some cheap dude, eh
imagine they'd go with the hog version we once hat in the experimental mode. where his selfheal was also healing anyone near him 😮

Still won’t let me do preds sadge
Would sms count
And dantehs was still better right
I think
you mean signed as a specialist or 1trick
ig
that doesnt answer the question
Sms
decay :-)
specialist
uhh i dont think we have any like secondary off tanks signed for zarya this season
since elsa retired
Is DVA still viable?
yeah
shes like
been the best off tank for a while
and has the most playtime out of any hero in owl
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oh well
why the hell are contenders korea playoffs on a monday
or very late sunday ifyoure in na
Damn looks like I can’t watch it live
yeah
That is my fs
Looking handsome as always
And looking towards the playoffs unlike Kaan

best characters for comp plat/diamond?
Bastion Torbjorn Roadhog Wrecking Ball Lucio Zenyatta
unironically torb is free diamond
Idk Dutch culture but I’m pretty sure that’s illegal
Isn’t a consensual kidnapping just a date?
Idk ask my gf 😎
😳

goblins
nah bro I'm a justice fan
gotta bandwagon like that other guy
anyways
DECAY ISN'T OVERRATED!!!!!
y'all like my delusional justice fan cosplay?
A Paris supporting king
yeah you're a true king bro
Bold move to support a team with a Closer-Bebe backline that is going to get tossed around by Fuel then Reign like Loki in the first avengers movie
nah I'm joking
Oh thank goodness
pretty sure justice fans are a myth
yeah cuz I'm gay asf
Awesome sauce
oh thank god
I’m gay too except I’m attracted to women
Daan feeder
Off tank player formerly played for the British Hurricane in European Contenders until June 2021 where he then got promoted to the Paris Eternal for the Overwatch League
none of those words mean anything to me
Overwatch League
huh?
based
wait wrong link
Shock all season: doesnt go to hawaii, upsets Dallas once, no other impressive wins
Everyone: wow shock kinda fell off and aren’t sad strong as they used to be
Shanghai: yeah we’ll pick shock fo face off against in playoffs
Everyone: WOW OH MY GOD THEYRE GOING FOR IT RISKY
and they're gaining momentum in playoffs
And they finally got their back line rotation in order on what they want to play
my playoffs pickems is gonna be ass
but copium
And also
We haven't seen shd/dallas go full throttle since summer showdown
So it's hard to gauge them
Using pine 🙏
What a 3-0 win vs the Defiant does to a mf
Depends if they try to force ball
Other than a hitscan based comp Dallas beat Shock as long as they chew their food properly
I heard decay isnt overrated
My summoning signal
He is clinically underrated
cause all anyone talks about is how hes overrated
No one even rates him
Rate deez nuts
last year shock won in a 3-2
this year shock got worse and shanghai got better
so sadge
Shock has it inside of them to do it
It'll require all they got
Dragons in Countdown Cup wasn't impressive remember
Literally lost to NYXL
yeah but they werent trying
shock has a chance of winning
its just a low chance
very low
Dragons played whoru and develop they didn't care
Ok I get they weren't practicing as much or running their normal roster
but they were still trying
To say they literally didn't try is just false
In what world
Shock have done zero things of value this entire season
and people just say that they're back
Shock all season: doesnt go to hawaii, upsets Dallas once, no other impressive wins
Everyone: wow shock kinda fell off and aren’t sad strong as they used to be
Shanghai: yeah we’ll pick shock fo face off against in playoffs
Everyone: WOW OH MY GOD THEYRE GOING FOR IT RISKY
They lose to outlaws multiple times
Go to 5 with spitfire
and ppl are somehow scared of them
this isnt the shock of past years
Ok but
I think the idea is that shock who practices for one person is really really scary
And that we don’t know how good Shanghai is again after CC
CC shanghai was just for rest and relaxation
it will be a 3-0
and it wont be close
also ball is just years better than rush
and shock sombra and tracer play is just so meh
glister is good at both but they dont usually run him on either
they also like never run sombra
i get predicting shanghai to win but a 3-0 wtf
The all around best team of this entire year
who dismantled chengdu in the summer showdown finals
Rewatch Toronto
That wasnt value, toronto ball is not even close to like shanghai
or chengdu
or even philly
i dont see shock getting 3-0ed after weeks of prep and with it being playoffs time
who can you prep against to counter shanghai
what team will give you that experience
crusty finds a way
People doubted Shock in 2019
Shanghai will probs win
no they didnt
People doubted Shock in 2020
Not a single person doubted 2019 shock
Who
Who
nope
again not a single person
they where a top 2 team both years
i do remember people doubting shock in 2020
What kind of idiots do you talk to
and the best team in 2019 going into playoffs
Not doubting just expecting other teams to do well
Shock ended up #1 NA this year in qualifiers
12-4
Atlanta
Dallas went 11-5
Glads
people expected shanghai to win last year
Atlanta went 11-5
i do remember that
I said in qualifiers 4head
For good reason
But no one doubted shock
That’s just dumb
Who
Three-peat is 100% possible
yeah its possible but its gonna be a lot fucking harder
It'll take a lot
yeah and so is atlanta
Every team winning is possible
Thinking Atlanta winning
doesnt make it likely
Fusion?
Except philly
Fusion?
atlanta winning is possible if they never fight shanghai
Shanghai will kick every teams ass
Shock seems like the candidate to dethrone Dragons
Dallas?
glads
Chengdu?
Chengdu nahhhhh
Probs not Chengdu actually
shock is the only team that really has a chance imo
Dallas washed
Dallas????
In what world does the shock have a better chance than glads or dallas
we already know shanghai beats dallas when peaking
even on individual roles
glads is
Glads just outclasses shock
glads
If Dallas can beat Shanghai, every team there can
Without the two superpowers
yeah but like
how are the shock
the fucking SF shock
more likely to beat shanghai then the glads
It’s just a lot of shock copium
Ans
the glads at least have practice against the ball
yeah cause hitscan is soooo good rn
Ans can make it work
How are gonna shock gonna prepare at ALL for apac
Your still huffing 2020 copium
Dallas can easily win if we see justice rush be really meta
get ur head out of ur ass and realize that hitscan is pretty bad
teams not running sombra tracer r gunna get fucked
Yeah i mean echo and Hanzo is fine here and there
Cree can work
ehh
decay made it work for a bit
but its not that good
its not going to give u more value than a tracer
or sombra
As long as not widow meta
widow and ashe dont work rn.
God I wish so bad it was a widow meta
Please blizzard just super buff widow for playoffs
Pine vs lip vs ans vs birdring vs kai vs leave vs carpe vs decay
Like that would be so fun
Dallas will go to finals
Who knows
I hope shock and Dallas if they play each other agree to both play widow for the fans
so ans can bully them?
Ans vs pine
pine would not have fun
pine playing seems very unlikely
pine would get bullied
You have not watched pine play ow
or some inconsistent hitscan player from s1
pine is probably the weakest of the hitscans in playoffs
I have more hope in pine than carpe
philly also have shockwave who plays the hitscan
True
carpe is turning into a flex player
But I mean again
for philly
Nahhhhh
it's like if xqc un-retired and came back and people hyped him up in a winston duel vs fearless
super is actually better than ans
theres a reason hes in the practice range as widow every stream
?
ok well no it wouldnt be like xqc
TRUE
Xqc wasn’t even that good in season 1
If you watch the game his aim is as good as ever easily more consistent than pine
xQc played Overwatch the other day
but my point stands in that pine hasn't played in owl since s1
and ans came off a year rolling everyone as widow
Yeah but pine has been consistently 4.4k and on contender scrims and stuff
Pine will most likely get dominated
More consistent I agree
Ans>Pine
Philly success this year hasn't been amazing but Carpe mechanics wise hasn't changed
you see an actually good matchup to see would be lip vs ans
cant wait for o2 blast dps line rn to come into owl

two actually good hitscans that are proven
Underrated Hitscan=Onigod
proper kilo merit 
Still waiting on necros replacing tsuna and being a genji specialist 
Haha
Ans vs pine would be someone getting dominated
it would be pine
pine getting rolled
Pine
Carpe is still very good
Alarm Funnyastro Carpe Shockwave Hotba have all had carry moments throughout the season
And eqo
The backline has been very good though
eqo sombra moment
But in the end
In his defense, Sombra was never meant to be in his hero pool 
i'm just curious to see if dallas/shd can get back into form for playoffs
SHD always in form
shanghai will probably 3-0 shock
not in the countdown cup
Play Lip and Fleta lmao
no
Most likely Shanghai
It's hard to predict the match
We know what shock is gonna do
but not what shd is gonna do
There's no way Shanghai will 3-0 Shock
For all we know shd is gonna mirror rush and get rolled
If they do I'll gift Nitro
people acting like current shock n shanghai are comparable
Shock force rein Shanghai just out skill them on whatever they want
or they run ball tracer sombra and make shock look silly

might be a hot take
Every single factor of this tourney is in Shanghais favor it is entirely theirs to lose 
Shd only beat shock if it's a ball or winston meta
No way




