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nei but its houston
decay and fury
Does anyone think Defiant could upset shock
they always turn up in playoffs
Justice beat an average team
nah not playoffs shock
So does Profit, but that didn't work out
Philly didn't choke?????
Defiant have been looking really good lately, wouldn't put it past them
I think Outlaws should get this
It’s possible
houston is also average
🥺
But I prefer justice honestly
Still does better than Justice
if justice 3-0s houston then im gonna ping you
who do you think SHD would pick
out of shock, justice/outlaws or philly
probably justice
then it's Dallas pick right? Dallas v Philly?
Philly
that would be hype
They pick philly
I think philly or maybe reign
dallas vs philly would be cool
wait are reign pickable?
They can demolish reign with pelican so
Paris v philly flashbacks
Dragons pick philly 100%
Yes
I thought reign get a choice
They’re 5th seed
ooh
wait, but hasn't Seoul won?
No?
Philly won?
yeah 3-1
LESSGO
philly won 3-1
I didn’t watch playins but Seoul losing is so funny
no playoff Profit Sadge
Would’ve enjoyed Seoul in playoffs more than philly though
Both teams are good
based on what Philly have had to deal with this year regarding their roster, they deserve it
Peak philly big scary
Philly always fall flat though, bet they get demolished first round
it's double elim so they have 2 chances
Then get demolished again
Imma have to watch the Philly seoul game
Bebe closer built different
lol
Closer is a grand finals winner
i hope if washington gets picked they just destroy whoever picked them
let's be honest, that was mostly nus in S1
Poor dynasty, they just have a trash support line
did Closer even play much in S1 grand final?
I would be fine with this with any team tbh
All I remember from season 1 was Hanzo
Depends if they have more than one strat
they do, plan B is just keep trying plan A
playoffs decay and playoffs fury even though its technically not playoffs yet
i dont see houston winning
sure justice's support line isnt great
Playoffs fury last year was good in playins and shit in playoffs
but the rest is good
he was on philly you cant blame him
if you are on philly you will always choke no matter how good of a player you are
Philly curse
Did they change the lily Luigi commands yet
!!luigi
!!lily
3-0
Nope
I love how my command is just impossible to use against me
Cuz it doesn’t say names
Just 3-0
!!lilymomeny
!!lilymoment
Ok good
CARPE >>>>> PROFIT
Seoul's season is over
It’s sad since they were 12-1 outside of Shanghai
Maybe they shouldn't have lost
how did they go from grand finals to not being in playoffs when they didnt even explode their roster
No hog
true
gif
Come on give a hot take for once
It’s hard to believe that seoul missed playoffs but Houston and justice can
Werent they a Boston fan until now
It’s hard to believe Seoul got 2nd in playoffs last season
not really
Stfu
who else wouldve gotten 2nd in apac if not seoul lol
who wouldve been #2 in apac in playoffs if the meta was like dive
Nobody is a real Boston fan, they just pretend to be so that they’re the funny Faith simps
Nyxl or charge would have probably gotten rolled in final four
then they went to the final 4 and became runner ups because fusion bad and gesture gaming
I really wish philly lost to spark
No I hate sans
Based
oh that make sense
I wished NYXL played over Spark
dont worry fusion will still lose. shanghai pick outlaw, dallas pick atlanta, chengdu pick fusion
If only they didn't keep losing to Charge
chengdu win agains fusion
Justice is also possible but they are probably still the easiest pick
Would you prefer justice or a reign without pelican
Why would Shanghai not pick philly
Play against the team who is playing the same meta you scrimmed against
You don’t know what’s going on in na
What if shanghai pick shock for revenge
shanghai fights shock anyways
shock goes to lag since remaining seed
if shock beats glads they fight shanghai
lmao
if shanghai beats their opponent which i think will be outlaws
Maybe but what if it’s justice
what a bracket
if its justice i think shanghai will pick atlanta or fusion
cause justice are fucky wucky and can randomly omega pop off
Just pick the team you know the meta of
justice has like a 90% chance to win vs outlaws imo
Don’t pick the other region and go against a meta you don’t know
the two times dragons have fought atl they swept them both times
theyve had closer games with fusion
and they had pelican
yes
main concern would be rush meta since shanghai beats atl in ball orisa and monkey
rush sucks against ball anyway so shanghai would be fine
on certain map
Well then
Atlanta’s last season before good overwatch is gone and Pelican can’t even play
they get to choose
Fuel plays the Justice vs Outlaws winner
the top seeds get to choose
it's not automatically determined
I know the way the bracket looks it seems like it's an immediate progression to that match but it's just showing they've qualified for that stage
pretty sure the top 3 (?) get to choose then 4th seed gets the remaining opponent
so SHD get 1st pick, then Dallas, then Chengdu and finally Glads have the last team standing
would Dallas choose Reign if SHD skip them?
because Dallas v Reign this season has been very close every time
so even without Pelican I'd be nervous as Dallas
without pelican lol
on ping prob
According to gator pelican can’t take the flight to hawaii sooo
what if theyre lying to trick the other teams into thinking atlanta is an ez win
team dont pay attention and get free dub
Let’s just not pay attention to pelican who is presumably in the same place as the other na teams
Big conspiracy
Even thought the other na teams gain literally nothing for doing so and Shanghai will beat Atlanta with or without pelican
they will stream sniper
So how was shockwave
Who won
Philly won both matches
3-1 for both matches
What happened to Pelican's lungs?
GOD DAMN IT SEOUL
I NEEDED A WIN THERE, FUCK
Philly win hanamura challenge
Seoul should have played Sbb and win
Nah dude Fusion didn’t care about the boycott
Neither did NYXL but that’s irrelevant since they can’t win with Yakpung 
Has nyxl beaten fusion more than Seoul
is yakpung really that bad?
Yakpung isn't the best main tank
This season or all time?
I think this season
I know, but idk people really hate him
I think he's average
yakpung sometimes does a little bit of trolling
How much sniffed hopium was for fusion?
Both beat Fusion twice
replace world with overwatch and you have OW commentary for the past 5 years
for the next five too, presumably
its time for the yearly seoul copium boys
so are they finna change coaches or what
drop anamo asap
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
well he did play on both matches
does carpe have the best tracer in fusion?
yea
suprised alarm didnt trans there
are all stars skins going to be dps
c9 lol
fuck. philly won
FUCK ME
is the audio scuffed for anyone else
according to yt chat, yes
Fusion: But if he's gonna kick my ass, I'm gonna kick HIS ass!
delusion
Lmaooooooo
shock has an 0-2 record against the fucking outlaws this season, you really think they’re gonna beat Dallas or chengdu???
they 3-0’d fuel while they were purposefully sandbagging so they didn’t have to be in the countdown cup
so skilled from San Francisco there
wouldnt be surprised though
shock went to map 5 against glads who won the whole thing
based on cc shock > atl
It’s like mm fusion
Seoul 
Also anyone who discredits the dallas win for shock is high off copium
They were still trying
Just a bit less practice
They were trying to win the match but they obviously hadn’t put much work outside of the match, lots of weird stuff they did
Same as Shanghai, you could see the skill was still there but I’m assuming lack of scrims caused some of the gears in each team to rust up
based on the entire rest of the season, shock isn't even a top 5 team
in NA they easily are
entire league? that gets harder to determine with some apac teams
Definitely not top 5 in league, top 5 in na sure
top 5 in the league would be what
dallas/shd/chengdu as top 3
Could argue atl 4th
Seoul could have been 6th if they had won today i think
Definitely
Because their regular season record was fantastic
same for shock
Shock had the unfortunate luck of facing two tourney winners in 2/3 of their knockouts which doesn't help lol
eh they won a single map in hawaii
True but i meant in a sense that they atleast made one top 4 appearance
Well but they both also have horrible regular season records
Only reason Mayhem and NYXL even made it is because the teams they faced in knockouts just shit the bed
Spark decided they want to play double bubble and Justice took 10 mins to set a single fight
It would be the same if shock made a tourney and did air there
I'd say mayhem has the most wasted potential of any NA team but outlaws are still here
I wouldn't give it much credit at all
Well tbh no one expected alot from outlawa
If justice gets eliminated then justice wasted the most potential
Was supposed to literally be a top 3 team and isn't even in top 5
Justice was top 5 but not top 3 for preseason
washington's supports are holding them back imo
Alot of ppl put them as top 3 or atleast the ppl i saw make lists
their coaching is dogshit too
true
Washington supports are just existing they aren't holding them back but they arent also clutching wins for justice
they got coaching diffed hard in the countdown cup
Summer showdown aswell
they did so bad that the casters picked fucking vancouver to win
TRUE
I did too
Ss justice was pretty good
Didn't summer showdown justice went 0-2 in first week?
Then I think they dominated the next week
But going 5 maps against paris and still losing 3-0 was not good
Im happy fusion eliminated seoul because now profit finally wont get called goat
Ahhhh my bad
Justice went 3-1 and lost to reign
I misremembered the tournament's
And they lost to Dallas 3-2 in knockouts
Who would you say is goat then
Void
Pre OWL He was top tier did good on glads like rlly good casuals just didnt notice
And He has been the best OT back to back now
If shd wins grand finals I would agree
Profit hasnt won anything in 3 years
3 years.
He was mediocre off his comfort picks in S2, horrid on echo and sombra in S3, a meh mei and a pretty bad reaper
He has been good tvis season but i wouldnt even consider him a top 5 FDPS
Name top 5 fdps
Leave Pelican Kevster Sp9rk1e Fleta
Leave isn’t fdps imo
He is
Echo genji tracer sombra
He is the most flexible dps by far
Like just because he has a nutty hitscan doesnt mean hes not fdps
Yes but jimmy hasn’t played in years
And leave has been playing with a fdps the whole time
How do you check stats lab on mobile
I just go to dashreset
Profits stats arent that special this season and iirc were pretty shite in S3
Only standouts are pharah and echo echo He is fifth pharah he is third
On the rest hes mid table
Proper the best fdps in the world 
Who is proper
Oh no
Did they remove the Seoul winning
is the audio out of sync?
Meh
grand finals*
like rn choi is just more accomplished than he is even though void's probably the better player
They cut straight to the desk instead of presenting the winner graphic
here we go
Wow Mag rein stats
thats scary
Decay overrated activated
Yeah, hes been performing well in this season but hes quite overrated
Shu overrated too, hes a good support dont get me wrong but he only performed on mvp level in the countdown cup.
glads choked way too much
Honestly think outlaws v justice is going to be a 50/50, the match can go either way
honestly it could
these matched i wouldnt be disappointed how any of them turn out
Don't think shock will lose but they too have a history of choking matches
so its possible they could lose
3-2 against london spitfire 😐
exactly and toronto is way better than spitfire
Shock also 3-2 against glads
i wanted london to win that but shock managed to win in the last second
Who won cc
true
and also got swept by both dallas and reign and lost two games in a row to Houston
And shock haven’t choked in playoffs
they might this time
Unless you count the reign game but they rolled everyone else
I want to watch outlaws v justice so baaad
but school tomorrow
I have to go sleep in an hour already 😭
😐
I honestly think its a 50/50
hasnt houston been looking bad
At the end of the season yeah
yeah last half of the year its been all pain
In the beginning they were very strong
yeah they went 4-nil the first two stages
then lost to dallas 3-nil twice or thrice
Play-ins have been kinda boring at this moment ngl
yeah its been mostly 3-nil or 3-1
Itll be a bit closer today i guess
Cc they lost to glads reign though
the first games were the lower seeds
The top 2 na teams
philly
3-1
philly kinda looking strong at the end of season
ye last time we saw that was in the mm
20/22 for deaths per ten
Violet does the most damage but also does the most
💀
wot
he does the most BUT he ALSO does the most
lol
bets for the upcoming match, yall?
or if they don't, they will run him in the gf
last season game
Shock 3-1 win
shock 3-0 easily
though I’d love for Toronto to win
wot if they lose
i think shock 3-1 too
first time for everything
They lost last year mate
😭
I thought they didn’t make it to the playoffs
they lost early
Every team made playoffs last year
itd be so funny if dragons are the first out of playoffs
oh
they wont
Honestly i don't even know what grand finals will be this year
me neither
Is shock the most popular team in the league?
the teams have been playing so close this year
dragons will be in there
yea defo
dragons vs fuel
yeah
dragons vs fuel
it deserves to be Fuel v Dragons
Want to take a moment to thank all the players, staff, and fans. It was a tough loss after an even tougher season with so many ups and downs.
An aggressive rebuild begins today as we prepare for OW2. The long off-season is tough but looking forward to getting to work. https://t.co/1w2fAioBBl
the fucking classic
Seoul heavy rebuild
come on baby
Don’t forget that Seoul turns up in playoffs they might make it again
FUCK YEAH
FUCK YES
DROP ANAMO
DROP GESTURE
DROP CHANGOON
we need the ultimate Fuel v Dragons showdown to close out the season
Keep gesture just for profit
watch la valiant get a second chance and secretly sneak in playofs
owl should have valiant play vancouver or london
Who did the casters bet on?
honestly if vancouver once more we couldve seen them in a comeback
Profit literally about to get dropped because he couldnt run changoon's 50000000iq mei strat
I wonder if Profit would leave
How good is profit mei
and if so, where would he go
Whenever I see profit mei Seoul loses
thats the problem
its alright
where would he go
NY?
tru
NO DONT
his mechanics we know not a problem
but dude mano just press shift and ???? they are good
i love this guy
I DONT WANT ANOTHER FDPS TO BE ROTTED ON MY BENCH
creative trolled on bap today
profit for flora
Flora has been great
FDgod finally playing pog
why would you drop him
ive seen fdgod been playing more brig since this season
Violet Fdgod duo pepeLaugh
oh boy
interesting
What map is it
oasis
oasis
u cant watch?
oasis
i type everything for u
good luck to both teams!
I’m just too lazy switching on mobile is annoying
I think this might be closer than we think
Yes
FDGod 
not this year
I actually have a great feeling for shock
they lost to glads on oasis
I trust crusty
They kinda been dipping on control actually
this map actually made them not be able to go to hawaii
Man seeing shock rush on gardens is reminding me of striker
DO BETTER
If Shock had someone like Changsik instead of Super the pooper they’d win
viol2t 👋
if you're playing cree, surely you play ans?
I know Glister is good too but Ans is Ans
bash kill lol
shock sups dont die challenge
Just bad player
bait
Oop
Yeah what the casters been saying, i think twilight + fdgod is a better duo honestly
if ow2 is on owl before ow2 comes out its going to be the biggest flop after the first month
why
Twilight plays much more defensive so more healing, fd can go out and get some good picks
theyre doing early build of it
imoshock just shouldnt play brawl
glister too greedy
for consistnet backline
Why watch a game that you cant play yourself other than to see what it looks like
Any coke chuggers?
OO massive shatter
after the first few weeks it'll lose interest
huge shatter
why would it lol
you will be able to play it soon
Good first round
close round
obviously you watch it
main tank differenc
beta would be out at the very least with OW2 release being very very close to the start of OWL
generate interest
Itll be big for shock if they take this map, toronto has a much more higher win rate on control
OWL starting early summer, OW2 release mid-late summer
season 5 OWL?
yep sym
owl is ow2
no, its going to be an early build of OW2
Woah i wasnt expecting them to just tp in the backline
they should ban lucio again
glister sym better than ans i think
Season 5 owl im betting on ow1
you missed the latest info
Ow2 beta just for shit and giggles
its gonna be played on ow2
Ult charges choi
Ansoonjae looks like sparkle with different glasses
lol
Super hates Michelle
Ball got booped off
oh
Not really a c9
nice
caster lying 😭
C9
yeah not a c9
🥴
fdpog
people were saying fdgod was going to be dropped
idk why tho
hes been playing great all season long
He hasn’t been playing all season long
I need more viol2t lucio

Not FDgod
F(ee)DGod
hes been pretty shit all year tho
this was prob his best map
cause he didnt downright throw any fights
Dont listen to him he also said that spark beat fusion
alot of the time he just dies
Shhhhhhhhhhhh
FDGod is first pick alot
not in this game so far
but previously
also spark sadge
smurf time
What happens when you have U4 as your coach kek
Who's the best winston?
ANS Ansoonjae in the same match
Fearless
Fearless...
Can be current or previous
Not even close
HADI
They subbed in everyone other than taiyo
where is ta1yo my boy 😔
hadi is held back by his teamates
You can also add in Guxue and Smurf as well
isnt ta1yo taking mental health break
no
Tho Guxue has not been doing so well this year
wasnt that a thing that happened
Mag prolly
They fucking lost to nyxl
Did anyone catch Uber's amazing line that game: "This is MTD v SBD" LMAO
who went on to win the whole stage
June Joust was the only time Spark was competent except when they shit the bed against NYXL in the knockout
yakpung
Shanghai looked really bad until end of jj
shy is a rookie of the year candidate
his winston so good, the team around him turns his plays into feeding material on anything else
Fearless
Smurf
Guxue Mag
everyone else
Bernar was good
So is changsik
Bernar is tragic
But shy is def up there
pelican, skewed, shy
yeah
Gaga mmonk
yea
ans looking real hot
ppl dont talk about how insane flora is
actually i might put ga9a fourth or third
just because team success
even though everyone's really good
imo flora could be mvp next year
Gwanboong has been really good as well
get me pajion
stop it twilight
Were LAV ever good?
what are these flanks
Where is ans cam
actually god like
Sadge
first season
When did the logo change?
1 PELICAN 2 GAGA
"nice stick!" literally just walked forward and pressed q
skewed is rookie?
skewed has basically benched moth
2019 or 2020 is when logos changed
yeah
In S3
i didnt know that
then shy
Shock, Mayhem and Valiant changed their team colors in S3
3rd is gaga
Woah they are targeting lastro lol
Too bad Shy's team is bad
THEY LITERALLY ARENT
he has had 0 value to this point
Twilight on Ana is a treat
SPARK ARE NOT BAD
just so good
spark is trash lmoa
They are bottom half of apac
I mean look at Spark's recent matches
apac is all over the place
Their decision making if you can even call it is terrible
thats cause of wack ass coaching
spark is bottom 3 apac
nyxl????
charge
NEVER
nyxl is btter
smurf on winston so yummy
valiant
Charge and Valiant are below NYXL

Losing to Charge does not exactly inspire confidence
nyxl is def better than spark
LMAO
but Spark are above NYXL in the standing for a good reason
In both individual talent and results
Well NYXL would've played in playins if they didn't keep losing to Charge
What results
but shy is better
Winning against charge isn't an accomplishment
didnt charge beat spark
but nyxl couldnt do it
Lastro Survive Challenge (Impossible)
nope
They lost to Charge in their last match in CC
Based
smurf so good
Anyone trying to flee Smurf's primal 🤡
smurf on winston so yummy x2
Smurf is the 2nd best winston behind fearless
Holy fuck smurf
thats what i didnt get
just so good
Why even play Zarya
Those juggles
wrong
Not exactly an amazing pick
ur just clearly worng
You want to flex
wdym wrong?
Maybe last year
LiGe be not getting a single map of playtime the whole season lul
but we have Muze, G9ga, Mag, Guxue at peak
Smurf's winston this season has been great again this season
even if the shock haven't always been at it
Is fearless or Guxue better at primals?
fearless prob
has memories
Fearless is fearless
We haven't seen viol2t zen again sadge
no viol2t winston 
Now
jehong winston
Which echo player has the best winston
fleta prob
Taimou dva
prob
Super
he is just soooooooooooooooo good
Im sorry but ppl have been calling him overrated
He's just not
fleta is soooo fucking good at the game
like ik everyones on the lip hype train
but hot take
fleta>lip
both are good
based
lip has just been better this year than lip
yikers
i voted fearles
and ig shu could go there
thats a 2-0
rolled
Toronto zzzzzzzz
Lip is better than lip
We all knew the outcome of this match
Nice
I always root against atlanta cause its so fucking boring when they win
Sado beating Shock? Yes
i meant to say fleta or you can say lip has been better this year than last year lip
they just arent a fun team to watch
Iirc your Team is eliminated
ohhhhhhh yeah thats true
Hahahahahaha
cause i been sucking decays dick since the offseason
Zzzzz
Sado is the only coke sponsor of the OWL
you could interpret it both ways lol
Decay is low S tier peak
owl sponsored by sados drink

shock looking good so far
How does it feel to not play for half a year
not making a ton of mistakes
Must be shitty
nah

mans plays everything
He comes out on zarya, just rolls
widow, rolls
reaper, rolls
tracer, rolls
Top 3 players on each role?
Fucking genji rolls
yea decay is pretty good
Lmao
thats great
Tank: Fearless, Void, Hanbin

Support: Shu, Mmonk LJG
Dps: Rascal
I would put izayaki
Huh
LJG still best MS
They are tho
will buy copium coca cola if this goes 3-0
Profit 
Ur opinion sucks
is carpe overrated ?
kinda
ppl dont rly rate him
No
No
Carpe good
Hes a solid to amazing player
2nd best player in the entire OWL
No
Yes
just no
No
Yes
No
Jjonak and profit
da
are better all time
this chat decided today was the day to say shitty takes
??
Profit 
thats every day when im here
lmbao
Thank essenza
you are very handsome
Profit is fucking insane every single season
it astounds me that im the only one who rates him top 3
Yes
he's literally a top 3 tracer
Ur the only one
i wonder why
Bruh
hes just on such a bad team

naga > profit
so its hard to rate him
s2 he and fury won games that they had no buisness winning
Onigod > Profit
yai yo yee
ProFits is a top 3 dps duo
Never missing mr chad
i don’t follow owl anymore, who’s the best team rn
only missing u 
Shanghai




