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happy is on and off
Happy got hit by the hitscan curse this season
All your heroes are dogshit 90% of the time
Yeah he's still inconsistent to some
So he has to flex onto heroes he isn't known for
Shu Izayaki mmonk kaan viol2t twilight fielder alarm creative iris
All easily better then crimzo
i think crimzo and piggy are the best players on the team atm
Who is p much just a healbot most of the time
It's like the fleta deadlift but tbh he never played DPS as that kind of carry player in the past
Feelsblaseman
Id favor farway over crimzo as well farway is almost just as good as mmonk
he got many times to swtich
And gangnamjin has still been good this szn
Whereas Eileen is someone why I have yet to understand never pulled out the sombra plays this year to carry the team
Id say mcd and crimzo are pretty muxh the same player
mcd more like mcdenied
Both have okay mechanics and decent gamesense

gangnamjin underrated af this year because his team sucked turbo ass for 10 games straight
:(((
he looked phenomenal early on
Yeah
Agreed
Anyways
Give Houston a New backline like vindaim twilight and they would be out of mediocrity
Get yaki on a good team please
Yaki to fuel
dalton on houston 😳
yaki on shock would be great but flex dps isn't their biggest issue at the moment I think
so it would be pointless to spend money on it
yaki to justice would be fun to replace assassin
Does yaki play sombra
or decay tbh
no idea
but he's probably better than assassin on sombra
And yski sombra is decent
so how washed is architect nowadays, where does he rank on the scale of flex dps
He just suffers the birdring leave sombra curse of playing her like tracer
last i've heard architect is still solid
I think architecht is low B
prediction for next season: checkmate is main tank for every game of mayhem's season and charges into the backline as a chad and carries his team to grand finals
Architect is alright. He gets the job done.
Hard to rate him since spark shit the bed this year
He just gets kinda diffed everygame
At least he actually listens to his coaches.
HZ have so much potential to build a solid roster for next year with their money and the talent floating around apac
Also he isnt kevster
So why bother
🥱
Also what abt fusion bernar
And then yaki gargoyle gangnamjin go to spark
fdgod and rapel to Seoul. shock and dallas don't need em
he is solid but spark is weird with many coach joining and leaving
Doesn’t yaki still have a year left with mayhem
Nah slime is rlly meh
Shock need fdgod imo
bring back pissure to florida
checkmate 😎
checkmate is worse than hadi
Slime works very well with feeding mts
sign bumper to florida
best main tank in the league ez
charging into the backline is the meta for next season
checkmate really out here defining the meta
Yet he still looked meh on seoul w GESTURE
Why not just play dive then
Who is the gigafeeder
because it's rein checkmate liberals
he needs his duo
Slime in shock
Which washed barely in the league player is going to London next? Hmm, colorhex? Logix? Linkzr? Hmm
Dalton

you’re dead to me
How come it’s all dps
kariv
ljg>moth
Skewed > Moth
Moth better mercy/lucio, ljg better brig
Lucio is debatable
ljg is a role star 😎😎😎
I remember Moth having a solid Lucio
no violet did
Who got role star last year
it was violet alarm fdgod leejaegon
moth was robbed of it last year
for supports
Moth was the best mercy in the world last year 
He was the best MS last season
This year it could be 4 fs
When it came to lucio/mercy he was #1 imo
Yea he really turns up during pla-
But it wasn't as Chad as Yveltal's.
His mercy gets creative sometimes
Big dick mercy gameplay
Imagine how stacked Chengdu would be if they kept molly too
Yveltal dps mercy
The mega support line

It is funny watching yvetal whip out his gun on mercy constantly
Mmonk is better anyway
Yeh
10 hp and dps running me down? Glock out bitch
He does so much that
Support line to help the covid pandemic.
Mmonk Yveltal Nisha Faraway Molly
Mmonk Molly Farway would be a criminal hoarding of supports lmao
How does yveltal have like 1.8 blaster kills per 10
Also surprisingly we didn't get like huge changes to OWL like last year
I mean patch wise
They are waiting for the 5 supports + Reinhardt meta
This time was what? The hitscan nerf
The playoffs patch is not here yet...
Back to Echo i guess
The amount of really good benched flex supports this year go crazy
Which ones?
m1ka moment
I think there was more fs than anything
On brig jail

Honestly, I wonder how many current players are gonna drop OWL
I'm gonna say at least 6
Before we get OWL Contenders Edition
(The Los Angeles Valiant)
is there ever a possibility of new teams joining the league or is it out of the question
It was planned for this and next season
oh.
Then covid and actiblizz thing happened
did they specify the teams or countries
But Covid = teams make less money
Plus how expensive were the slots
So maybe next year.
30-50m per slots
sheesh
And org not getting profit from blizz
me omw to win the lottery just so avoided can be an overwatch league team
So was last season LOL
Wait that was last year
Yes
Yeh last year was to convince investors
Covid happened
Now were in covid 2 electric bogaloo
I don't get ppl acting like the end of the world though. Life moves on and so will the League when covid is finally gone.
Covid: The Third
Maybe not in America, but we don't need any more American teams ;)
Iirc was to have many teams in USA like the NBA, NFL, Soccer and such
And having slot for china/korea/any part of EU
USA has football teams lol?
yeah they have a league
When was the last time USSF made a tournament?
The thing is OWL was developed using the same structure as your regular sports
That's why we see many executives with experience in those up here
except without throwback uniforms apparently
Eh, it's built more like American franchised sports leagues.
Like the last commissioner
Like the NBA and NFL
Yep, NFL/NBA
and affordable merch!
Bro I can't even buy merch they don't ship here.
Instead happening organically like Riot stuff
Or Apex tournie
They're stubborn with the franchise thing and sponsors
also homestead would be became a mess
teams traveling here and there every week
Also
shanghai have no excuse for not winning this season
They have everything working in their favor atm
should win it all
Inb4 they choke
Wouldn't be the first top team who flops hard
London, Seoul, NYXL, Shock
Tbf the only affordable NFL/NBA merch is used or by third parties lmao actual NFL jerseys are like 200 dollars it's stupid
I buy off brand owl merch because fuck spending 100 bucks on a jersey lmaoo
is there a double elim bracket to get in play offs
it's single elimination for play ins
but playoffs is double
ah alr
cant even use travel copium anymore since no LAN games
and ball getting buffed for playoff patch
Unless there is a hard hog meta or a super hard ball nerf. Shanghai have no excuse other than they just got beat
Especially with na teams having to travel lmao
It's weird Dallas and Shanghai going ez has almost given me this idea that maybe they aren't as high above the rest as we thought, maybe they are weakened
dallas maybe but I have full faith in Shanghai
Idk LA was playing insane overwatch that easily could have kept up with Dallas imo
Yeah Shanghai played bench players so I know they were meming for sure
But Dallas im not sure
Before Dallas were taking it easy they were already on a downward trajectory (in terms of how close their games were)
Yeah
Shanghai so far has gotten better every stage.
But na was also on a downward trajectory as a whole considering after June joust where Dallas got reverse yeeted and then na as a whole just got fucked in summer showdown since Dallas and Atlanta could beat all of na with their own comps, but they couldn't actually play ball lmao
So na just got bodied so hard
Shanghai coming out in summer showdown on pharah was just such a curveball that it made them look amazing
The real curve ball for me was when they whipped out the counter-counter comp with the reaper winston shit against Chengdu and shut them down entirely.
Also been thinking decay to a team like Florida to cover tracer echo type metas could be sick
Imagine yaki echo decay tracer 
At this rate I'd start relegating decay's hot streaks to faint embers
I've yet to watch a justice match however, so enlighten me if he still plays carry for them
I mean to be fair, mechanically he has looked as good as ever, his team itself is just imploding from lack of any synergy much like Florida
Honestly though, Shanghai has got to win right? If they're ever going to win, this year is the year.
Been saying decay is overrated since before the season started
I was wondering when we'd start to see the ghost of Fissure resurrected in a DPS player
If the meta reverts to skew towards heavily NA playstyles then that might cause some trouble.
Seoul is literally just gz but with better dps and a flex support
I think decay can bounce back, he hasn't been That demotivated this year being an all KR roster
I hope Jerry sees more playtime the few times he was able to run Ashe cree he looked lethall
Wish Boston had kept him and just signed a tracer player rather than have im37 do it 🥺
Crazy anyone would be compare a team to Guangzhou, but that's as on point as it gets for me
Gesture > Rio
GZ
Seoul
Depending on dps popping off aside from minor pop off plays by one player ie crong / creative
I still would like to point out that Profit has gotten POTM for 50% of all the games Seoul have won.

He's literally been the most MVP MVP in OWL history.
I don't know what to do with nyxl, what could they upgrade besides Friday and Yakpung since I assume jjonak is never leaving
I bet all the s1 players have an ongoing bet where the last person to leaves the league gets money
like a mr beast video
Loll
Last person to leave the overwatch league wins a Lamborghini!
Or wait
Last person to take their hand off the overwatch league wins a Lamborghini
They've been putting a percentage of their league earnings to it and the prize pool gets bigger every season.
Imagine it's like free parking in Monopoly just all the tax money and shit plopped in the middle
It's exactly like that.
kinda true
They have good tank pieces and an amazing rookie dps talent, architect is not amazing but dependable, seominsoo literally shouldn't be on the team lmao, and supports barely got play time
Spark is a lot like old GZ - a gatekeeper season for the bottom 4 and nothing more lately
Due to communication issues between players
they dont need to change anything they just need to play their players
And I doubt it's entirely Chinese Korean based, but a couple things indicate it as such
where is godsb btw
Upgrade Architects mental, he has shown up but it's really inconsistent
I can see why godsb left because no playtime after seeing shy on hitscan
Like shitting on Hunters at their homestand while subsequently eliminated by NYXL out of nowhere
GodsB just can't compete with that
he has a place in the league though
yes it would
Shame mykayleee didn't pan out
remember when ppl were saying mer1t was gonna go to charge
and then that never happened
Idk why I had so much pre season hype for charge 
Not as bad as London, or the even younger talent like on Titans
Just go back to your posts or anyone's back in November last year
what did i say in november i wonder
I was ready to expect disappointment when mandu was signed, I never ever saw a game he was subbed in that he looked all that comfortable
And NYXL managed to sell him off beside some of the best players among sbb, Mano, and hitba (lol)
Fucking insane to see what Nero happy Shu can do with proper coaching tho sheesh
It's just crazy what not playing boink and Muma can do for a team lmaoo
Nero has looked so far a lot better off, since Charge's founding principles have gone to the gutter after failing to secure any more western international visas
Seeing as they thought Rio and Cr0ng were enough to hold the fort, their dividends were actually really solid
5 out of 8 of their staff and players in 2020 have moved onto teams that have improved so much
- GLA Shu, Brenda, Tydolla
- HOU Happy (junk buck should be taking credit for better coaching)
- SFS Nero
- Chara as asst. Coach of T1, who are looking much improved and scrimmed with Glads
look at this gem of a post
was charge founding principles to not only sign apac talent?
Internal visa delays and having to get renewed constantly was too much. Lots of moving parts last year made it tough to sub out players
assuming ans can pull off sombra it would probably be best in the world
wrong. they still lose to the seoul dynasty in the main tank hog meta
Ans is lip with worse sombra and better widow
alarm = izayaki
so yeah top team
top 1
if we're going to take this all stars team seriously then technically the dps rotation would be fleta ans profit
LIP has gone super saiyan this season
I would say lip > fits > ans >=carpe
fair
fair too
honestly yeah
I respect ur opinion
carpe hasn't had any exceptionally bad performances or anything just upper mid af with occasional pop offs
he's always been that sort of player
does consistently good but sometimes has pop off moments that makes him look like the best player in the world
idk what the problem with that team is, the only thing I can think of is eqo inconsistent and mano maybe
otherwise I really don't know
Ninek
okay but like
none of fusion are particularly playing like really bad
individually as players
they just suck when they're together
hotba has looked good surprisingly lmao
Dude why the fuck is T500 support so stacked compared to other roles.
ok just checked european dps
that's kind of getting out of hand
Lol
they are the only people who have 4.7 accs
and they have 10 of them
how the fuck does ysnza have 700 games played this season
The bench is doing him well.
Seoul about to get vindaim off season it's gonna be over
true
i love breadsticks
annoying fans hmmm?
nobody cares about that team literally
like spark in apac
if i open my mouth about that im getting flamed
oh yeah spark are either good or absolutely awful
Valiant?
reign
wdym ur gonna get flamed
seems painful but what do i know
and watching them is usually pain for me
f
especially the seoul and chengdu reverse sweeps
which we should have easily won both of those games
yep
thing is we have a great roster with a lot of talent but as soon as something goes wrong we flop
Ratlanta
The Philadelphia Fusion announce the signing of flex dps “ConKel”
Yes
His team is top 4 in the league and he can't even play playoffs with pelican on normal ping whil apac teams get to play from their practice facilities kek. That's his point. He isn't arguing covid isn't bad or anything he's just mad his team is getting cucked over and over

I wanna see pelican not on ping sad
Still this sets up Shanghai so well, if they don't manage a win this finals I'll be surprised
True
This is Shanghais to lose at this point, hog meta is their only weakness
And at this point I'm sure void hog is good enough
Only problem I could see is the relaxing for CC puts them behind on the meta
Maybe but even if the meta shifted back towards monkey Shanghai is never not gonna force ball this year lmao
If meta shifts towards monkey I’d be convinced blizzard is forcing Dallas to win
Eh, in countdown cup glads played monkey ana comp the majority of time
So it kind of has already
I only remember that on like Anubis
lol
Like im not saying I’d do better
But philly are so momentum based
And we keel over as soon as something goes wrong
we should have won
Not really, in 2nd match vs Seoul they played insanely poorly except for the map they won which was Blizzard World?
Yeah they played like shit
Yep
We had a weird season tho
we had eqo, shockwave and astro with visa issues for most of the season and still dont have poko
Next season better, trust
“The Philadelphia Fusion announce the release of head coach NineK” 
If we stayed in NA im not convinced we'd be doing as well as last year
“The Philadelphia Fusion announce the signing of head coach IMT” 
if only we still had kdg
And Heesu
“Yeah guys I don’t think that releasing our only good sombra player is going to shaft us whatsoever look at the funny Titans chap, he’s definitely going to play for more than one map this season”
Actual iceberg take
Now now we said mid, not bottom
eh, they’re bottom without carpe
Fusion are going to beat Spark convincingly and then lose to Seoul in another 5 mapper to make it hurt that much more
Now that is a hot take
hangzhou hopium 😔
Admittedly I had more hope for the Spark before the season started but after continuing to bench LiGe and M1ka through nearly the entire season and all the coaching switcheroos I just lost all faith in them
Not to mention MCD
they’re the only other team I’m still rooting for besides the outlaws
Spark literally went 0-4 last tournament
They also went 4-0 in JJ
I think they benched him because of his behaviour in game
what
yeah but that was under a different coach
not the same guy they have now
they’re inconsistent but it’s still “winnable” as the kids say
pretty sure he just wasn’t that good anyways
He’s not on the level of Fielder Izayaki or Alarm
why do I keep supporting the inconsistent teams
outlaws, mayhem, and spark fan 😔
But he was a serviceable fs who did his job
I think spark have a decent chance of beating fusion
based
hangzhou hopium
I think apac play ins will be
Fusion roll spark and then get fucked by dynasty
OR
Spark suddenly pop off
I think Seoul has no chance of losing play ins
I don’t want to have expectations for fusion
yeah seoul are gonna destory either team
Lift your expectations for next year
Seominsoo Sombra shy tracer guxue monkey lige dva/zarya Mika Coldest support line ez claps

Seoul have a massive advantage over fusion/spark it’s crazy
Why do play ins have to be in one day
There’s no rush
Guys if Seoul could play SBB do u think they'd be doing better
HOW BASED CAN 1 MAN GET https://twitter.com/BrenCasts/status/1430691265570656256\
Upsetting but understandable.
If you're unvaccinated due to choice, then you are the cause of this, with America's supply of vaccine we should have eradicated this virus months ago in the US.
Pfizer got FDA approval, you have no more excuses. https://t.co/EZkrYoghDe https://t.co/oR5on7zViY
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Sbb would do nothing
Double hitscan
Like I love sbb but he just isn't better than profits
Profits hitscan is probably (definetly)better then his
And sbb would have little to no synergy with everyone else
Eh I don’t go outside anyway I’d rather not upgrade to Windows 10 unnecessarily
Lol
bUt BiLL gATeS iS gONna MiCRoCHiP uS
Bren speaking facts
yeah
I got Pfizer back in March, it's fda approved now if you don't trust the CDC WHO FDA and literally every vaccinated person who hasn't had negative effects you're a maniac ☹️
with some players being anti vaccine
live events are legit never gonna happen in the next few years man
I just didn’t trust one of the vaccines that gave blood clots but other than that one I had no issue with the rest
If Paris make finals they literally can't go lmaoo
y not lol
my man they've been around for almost 1,5 years now
i'm pretty sure they can
Literally an impossible scenario so no point talking about it
I know they based in eu
Kek
over here in the netherlands the covid stuff is nearing the end
They'd probably play on ping to Asia right? Since they can't get visas to Hawaii I'd assume?
I wanna go to New Zealand where the pm doesn’t pussyfoot their way around lockdowns
1 positive person, entire country in lockdown
Literally Taiwan, new Zealand, literally any country where they aren't too pussy to lock up anti vax shitters
I'd love to go
it's extreme but works
cant blame them
as long was we have dumb antivaxxer in owl like space
we're not getting big live events

what space is antivax?
I'd hope space is like cool now he's so likable 
It pays off
it does
Isn’t the New Zealand pm like really cool
@hot onyx if we had chipsa the goat of ow we would have gone 16-0 won every tournament and won the league
For sure
He absorbed all the bad luck for us
Then why didn’t it happen last year?
He was coaching right?
FUSION
yeah a map
if he played the whole season
WE WOULD HAVE WON
Paris can’t even go to hawaii for playoffs now
They have to sign an emergency roster
cya guys
but we wanna win
byebye
Lol
Fusion season 3
Ivy comes out of retirement
Boombox finally returns to the league after a year of EU Contenders hell
ChumpSa comes in clutch last map
Next year
They will reclaim their rightful title

Don’t doubt shitter
The Dallas Fuel will go bankrupt and have to release all their players for a budget roster, so it leaves Hanbin and Fearless prime targets for T1’s “fuck you” money
5 blocked messages
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jk ily
ily 2 < 3
bruh looking back on my preseason power rankings I realise how bad they were
and how they aged like milk
u guys wanna see them?
aight
Lemme guess
i'll have to just tell u them
Florida 5th London 7th Chengdu 13th Houston 17th Boston 18th
Trust me, mine are worse
I had faith in them being consistent and solid
But that was the scenario that they constantly ran their chinese squad
mhmm
Charge above Fuel and Hunters sticks out like a sore thumb
atlanta 15th kek
it does
I felt that Atlanta was just repeating itself last year
Great dps but mid-bottom tier tank and support line
I had Gator and Hawk as a bottom 5 tank line before the season started
Same
Rated Hadi and Molf1g higher tbh
And boy that bit me in the ass
I’m proud of the NYXL and Dragons placing
Originally I had Boston > NYXL, London > Atlanta and Defiant > Justice
You should’ve seen my rankings before Justice signed Assassin
I mean I got valiant and titans correct and I was pretty close with charge
let me guess they were awful
mostly the same
Defiant 6th lmao
Atlanta 14th lol
15th*
look at these they are pretty shocking
That’s not that bad
This was mine
Some weird choices, some logical choices that just turned out incorrect
Boston 4th!!!
I’m a Boston fan
Is this in a particular order or is it just a tier list?
No order
Weakling
well boston A tier aged like milk
Ok philly fan
I had high hopes for valentine and myunbong and faith and stand1
Was that tier list pre Assassin signing or post Assassin signing?
HIGH HOPES FOR STAND1
understandable
valentine is pretty good
Honestly fair
Yeah fair
Valentine is kinda insane
Holy shit what was your problem with Spark?
They just didn’t have anything whatsoever in the first half of the season
And the weak areas of the team were really weak
tbh spark are pretty meh
Uhhh I didn’t know any of the players?
I put them mid table
Everyone put houston mid to bottom 5
LiGe
including me
Plus I mean
Yeah Outlaws bottom 5 was a rational choice
everyone doubted them
I don’t think so
Come on
I put outlaws 17th because of the tanks and support
overall
A relatively unknown tank duo from contenders, some rando from collegiate, Crimzo and a tracer otp
Tracer otp?
I only had hope in the dps
That’s a funny take
How would I have known that Danteh would’ve been a flex god on echo?
Because last season?
Can we just talk about me putting florida top 5
I didn’t like what I saw of his genji sombra and mei
And didn’t see much of his echo
So I figured if Outlaws were in a position where they had to field KSF or Hydration they would roll over and die
Well ok let’s think of it this way
There were basically 4 teams everyone had bottom 4
Being London paris valiant and titans
I put London 7th....
Ur just dumb idk what to tell you
I had hope in them ok
And I would argue that spark looked worse coming into the season than Houston
Because Houston at least had a very promising dps line and had good tank synergy
While spark had like
Lige and architect
My bottom 5 were Valiant Titans Uprising Outlaws and Charge
I was doubting jjangu and piggy but I knew that they would be at least servicable
I didnt have a lot of faith in Joobi or Crimzo tho
I didn’t either
I thought crimzo would be ok I didn’t know much ab joobi tho
And the jake situation was weird
Yeah they got joobi out of collegiate as far as I know
Yeah
yeah
I was really high on nyxl
Coming into this season
I thought their dps line was really good coming into the season
I put them mid table but thought that they could possibly be strong
And I wasn’t exactly wrong
u werent tbh
Also jjonak is still good and I thought that yakpung would be at least ok
Spark roster Was crazy overrated on paper
True
yeah
No good coaching, architecht was on a decline Same for guxue and i thought mcd wouldnt be good
Like not good at all
when kalios came in I felt nyxl were a lot better
And also shy kinda looked like shit pre season
And my bold pred was He would flop due to shitty coaching
Turned out wrong but could have been possible
He had a good ball
And i expected tako to be permabenched He was always mid
Guxues second best hwro is easily rein
His rein was bananas in S2 and good in S3
His ball was kinda shit but he improved a lot this season
I mean statwise his rein was rlly good qhile being on a team with one of the worst backlines majority of the yesr
Year*
Idk and Bebe
That is an illegally crap backline
Which barely improved with the shithouse that is MCD
Contenders is actually kinda nutty
5 seconds · Clipped by Near Void · Original video "Contenders Australia | S2 Regular Season | Week 3" by Overwatch Contenders
Sheesh
That aint big
Thats fucking fat
What was the reason of MCD's contract termantaion?
Xenophobia
apac nearly perfect even if its easier
when you carry your entire team and you yourself single handed cause your team to win yet no one votes on your card 😦
#anotherreasonwhyineedtouninstalloverwatch
game 2: backfilled to a team that trickles in 1 by one
surprisingly accurate
Why were you so high on Houston
scrimbux
game 3: aimbotting widowmaker
And Atlanta
Oh
faith
Oh yeah that was a thing
But faith is on Boston
close ur mouth dummy
No smiley face
or play 250ms ping
game 4: point a capped 2 players on my team then leave
this is litteraly how my games are going
ur team sux and i knew it

no joe mama
Cringe
keep malding
AHAHAHAH PARIS BOTTOM 3
AHAHAHAHHA
POINT AND LAUGH
i mean everbody had them last place
were you judging fusion with or without visa issues
with
Neptuno on pre season paris btw
is ellivote ever coming back
wrist problems right
yep
we all underrated dallas
"fearless and sparkle too inflexible"
"fielder isn't s tier"
"jecse sucks ass"
"hanbin's dva isnt that good"
Yup
spark about to beat fusion and seoul with their new support lineup
so did justice actually choose paris because of the jerry ttuba egg game
wait did they say everything will be online or only playoffs
no LAN grand finals?
what if the top two teams are in the same region
shanghai/chengdu
Moving on to bigger and better things.
We all gotta grow up at some point.
what is he pursuing
preparing himself for the regular workforce
I don't know how skills will transfer but he's got it
was he making money from streaming
Fearless is indeed inflexible
whoever said that was just dumb LMAO
He might be but he's so good at Winston he can force it
Hanbin was probably a top 5 dva last year
dva was barely meta last year
So I’m sitting here eating my fish and chips
And it suddenly hit me
That the Guangzhou Charge has a fan base
fish and chips is kinda overrated
sadge
This comment gets it
Profit it kinda overrated

Who is better than fissure?
Nobody
😦
u cant overrate the goat
sadge fissure
that runaway team man
what could have been
😭
FUCK
and the only players even close to even a fraction of what he could have been rests in folks who play dps
Spark is screwed now tho without MCD
@sullen berry m8
k thx
was a huge text?
oop muted again
Just to make it clear, it's not that we are being cheap and not trying to get visa. Our org has been trying to get visa for our players for months now. But due to the delta variant, most european embassies don't offer P1 visa interviews for our players in time for playoffs.
884
Avalla 😔
Anyways I believe most of you have the brains to piece it together, Zep did nothing wrong
Even Chengdu's GM had something to say about the travel options for their players:
I swear if I get banned for this wall of text I'll actually leave the server
It's not a conspiracy theory. People just can't get visas is all.
OG cross post from weibo: https://mobile.twitter.com/d_aily_ow/status/1430797594217779208?s=21
A few things about the LAN matches and our trip to US:
Actually about the LAN games, the team has maintained positive and active close communication with the league. The entire planning and logistics process was way longer than what people might think.
"Our prep work (special visa, pre-visa plea docs, local connection in NA, budget application, real time updates etc) already started during summer showdown, and we recently booked face-to-face interviews with US embassy, and planned to go for the interviews together on Sep 2nd in shanghai. Visas weren't the main issue for the team."
The fact this is so in-depth is what impresses me
"Our" as in the hunters?
It's the Hunters GM Luke
Right, right.
I assume that other teams had some issues though.
Wait what did you mean by "so in-depth"?
Chengdu is lesser known for international tourism of the four CN teams - Hangzhou grew fast in the past decade, while Guangzhou and Shanghai especially are already established spaces
Chengdu has less tourism yeah.
Jimmy 
"We have consulted multiple travel suppliers from the parent company and were told its impossible for all 16 to go to the US together; meanwhile some player's parents also expressed their concerns, especially Jimmy who cannot be vaccinated due to ankylosing spondylitis. "
Jimmy 
That part right there, seems a little private unless that was something Jimmy was fine sharing in public
Why do so many esports players get nasty health problems
mfers have access to like personal life coaches n shit
Jimmy needs to reserve his strength for the playoffs.
Ankylosing spondylitis
Glad he's been taking it easy.
I find the connection surprising af
Rip

I think it's not so much the health problem itself but the medication that they take might not play nice with the covid vaccine.
Luke (Hunters GM) has planned for the worse as well. Say if a player were to contract COVID it'll have irreversable long term damage to players' mental, physical wellbeing and their career.
He also mentions that it's not ideal that they have to play online, but he believes it's a decision made with respect to feedback internally and with safety as their number one concern.
good guy luke
Shame the na teams didn't get to choose whether they'd risk contracting covid through travel or just play from home

Pandemic times
What, give the players the choice to give themselves covid?
I guess that is what the government is doing with the rest of the population.

Besides, aren't they flying to Manoa for ping anyways?
Close enough.
Like what, 90 ping?
University better get set to put on a show
That
Or accommodate three times as many teams onsite
Quinquennial red, mind you
Red is red.
It looks better after getting muted multiple times LOL
I meant it is a shame the na teams who have members that can't travel due to illnesses just have to play anyway regardless while teams like Chengdu just get to play from practice facility with their full team 😔. Not bashing the system, just like, sucks ass pandemic made it like this.
which NA teams have no-fly players?
Remember when they said covid would be over by the end of 2020 omegalul 
Remember a time before covid? Me neither.
No fly players, how about we go back to teams for a second
Yeah what happens if Paris makes the playoffs?
They will fly the Paris team to compete from French Polynesia.
I remember in 2020 well in a few months I'll be able to get out more it is all good. And now a full year later here we are and nothing's changed lmaoo
Paris could still play remote, but gg their chances if APAC suddenly know how to play on 160+ ping
OWL probably won't accept a match being played over 120ms
How would Paris play remotely from Europe to China.
fielder moment
Paris need to make it through now just for lols lmaoo
Yes but if the whole team is fielder what do
if the whole team is fielder you win anyway
Yes. I want paris to make the playoffs for this to happen.
Bro I got it, Paris gonna make the playoffs, not be able to go, give their spot to shock, and shock three peat with that spot 
atleast i have something to complain about poggers
Maybe they go on a cruise ship and sail to the coasts of China. Technically they don't need any travel visa because the ship would be from their country of origin.
Then they can use their own equipment as well.
@next mesa Paris can't mess this up a third time, I need an underdog for the playoffs now that Glads have secured a spot with Dallas and Ratlanta
Lmaoo when we getting an international waters game of owl ez
legit i think that would be one of the few ways they could do it
huh what
Unless they got a direct waiver from a government to allow them to fly
You've had four chances, but may melee didn't count
Imagine though they are all playing on boats parked next to each other lmao
Yeah.
If covid continues on to next year
We will have floating barges for homestands and live events.
Ppl bring their own boats n shit
But now Eternal has a shit shot at playoffs contention vs Washington
I thought I deleted the shit
Like a drive-in theater but instead of cars its boats and instead of movies its a live OWL game
Justice playoff run part 2 
I would be down for that.
yoooo
GG map pool
whered u get this
Fuck Overwatch
That's so stupid.
I get why they did it 'cause people were upset about it but I fuckin' hate it.
Every single fibre of my body.
i mean
but oh well
does it really make much of a difference
People were getting upset about it so it was in Blizzard's best interest to change it.
No I don't care about the name change itself. I just hate the idea of it. I hate the principle.
atleast we get content pooooog
I don't understand why people feel the need to change shit like that.
Letting bad people and bad events ruin your otherwise fine stuff.
needs a whole ass scandal to get smth new lmaooo
I just hate the idea of that.
I blinked and it was. Already posted here #overwatch message
Ugh... Hate that shit.
What they should have said
https://twitter.com/SoDarnGeneric/status/1430965127814291462?s=19
@SCMNSR @PlayOverwatch Jesse McCree was a Blizzard dev. The OW team liked the name and decided to use it for the cowboy. Then the real Jesse McCree was outed as a sexual predator, so they're changing the name to not glorify the real guy



