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sullen berry
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Happy has never looked better in his OW career

wild cape
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happy is on and off

earnest leaf
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Happy got hit by the hitscan curse this season

earnest leaf
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All your heroes are dogshit 90% of the time

sullen berry
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Yeah he's still inconsistent to some

earnest leaf
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So he has to flex onto heroes he isn't known for

vagrant cargo
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Shu Izayaki mmonk kaan viol2t twilight fielder alarm creative iris

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All easily better then crimzo

wild cape
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i think crimzo and piggy are the best players on the team atm

vagrant cargo
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Who is p much just a healbot most of the time

sullen berry
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It's like the fleta deadlift but tbh he never played DPS as that kind of carry player in the past

sullen berry
worn falcon
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Same Ans

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no time for snipe when ball exist

vagrant cargo
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Id favor farway over crimzo as well farway is almost just as good as mmonk

worn falcon
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he got many times to swtich

vagrant cargo
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And gangnamjin has still been good this szn

sullen berry
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Whereas Eileen is someone why I have yet to understand never pulled out the sombra plays this year to carry the team

vagrant cargo
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Id say mcd and crimzo are pretty muxh the same player

worn falcon
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mcd more like mcdenied

vagrant cargo
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Both have okay mechanics and decent gamesense

worn falcon
vagrant cargo
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Fs is just super stacked

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Id say u can make a case for myunbong>crimzo as well

tawdry hamlet
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gangnamjin underrated af this year because his team sucked turbo ass for 10 games straight

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:(((

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he looked phenomenal early on

vagrant cargo
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Yeah

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Agreed

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Anyways

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Give Houston a New backline like vindaim twilight and they would be out of mediocrity

earnest leaf
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Get yaki on a good team please

vagrant cargo
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Yaki shock

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😳

earnest leaf
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that would be awesome

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but nero is also really good

willow tartan
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Yaki to fuel

vagrant cargo
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Yaki better

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Id also like yaki spark

wild cape
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dalton on houston 😳

tawdry hamlet
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yaki on shock would be great but flex dps isn't their biggest issue at the moment I think

earnest leaf
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Nah you all got it wrong

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Yaki to justice

tawdry hamlet
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so it would be pointless to spend money on it

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yaki to justice would be fun to replace assassin

north relic
tawdry hamlet
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or decay tbh

earnest leaf
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no idea

vagrant cargo
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Also a fdps in tier 2 who is kinda underrated rn

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Alphayi

earnest leaf
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but he's probably better than assassin on sombra

vagrant cargo
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And yski sombra is decent

tawdry hamlet
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so how washed is architect nowadays, where does he rank on the scale of flex dps

vagrant cargo
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He just suffers the birdring leave sombra curse of playing her like tracer

earnest leaf
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last i've heard architect is still solid

vagrant cargo
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I think architecht is low B

wild cape
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prediction for next season: checkmate is main tank for every game of mayhem's season and charges into the backline as a chad and carries his team to grand finals

vagrant cargo
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He has been mediocre asf

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W some decent peaks

willow tartan
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Architect is alright. He gets the job done.

earnest leaf
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Hard to rate him since spark shit the bed this year

vagrant cargo
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He just gets kinda diffed everygame

willow tartan
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At least he actually listens to his coaches.

tawdry hamlet
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HZ have so much potential to build a solid roster for next year with their money and the talent floating around apac

vagrant cargo
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Also he isnt kevster

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So why bother

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🥱

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Also what abt fusion bernar

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And then yaki gargoyle gangnamjin go to spark

willow tartan
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fdgod and rapel to Seoul. shock and dallas don't need em

earnest leaf
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Honestly florida's roster is fine

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they just need a good main tank

worn falcon
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he is solid but spark is weird with many coach joining and leaving

north relic
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Doesn’t yaki still have a year left with mayhem

vagrant cargo
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Nah slime is rlly meh

north relic
worn falcon
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bring back pissure to florida

wild cape
earnest leaf
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checkmate is worse than hadi

north relic
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Slime works very well with feeding mts

willow tartan
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sign bumper to florida

wild cape
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best main tank in the league ez

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charging into the backline is the meta for next season

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checkmate really out here defining the meta

vagrant cargo
north relic
vagrant cargo
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Who is the gigafeeder

wild cape
willow tartan
north relic
tawdry hamlet
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Which washed barely in the league player is going to London next? Hmm, colorhex? Logix? Linkzr? Hmm

worn falcon
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Dalton

tawdry hamlet
wild cape
tawdry hamlet
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Fax

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Lmao

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Kariv the most overrated player

worn falcon
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Pls kariv still solid

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Moth overrated

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And benched

willow tartan
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ljg>moth

worn falcon
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Skewed > Moth

earnest leaf
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Moth better mercy/lucio, ljg better brig

north relic
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Lucio is debatable

willow tartan
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ljg is a role star 😎😎😎

worn falcon
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I remember Moth having a solid Lucio

north relic
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I forgot

willow tartan
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no violet did

north relic
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Who got role star last year

willow tartan
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it was violet alarm fdgod leejaegon

earnest leaf
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moth was robbed of it last year

willow tartan
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for supports

tawdry hamlet
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Moth was the best mercy in the world last year aBES_Hyper

earnest leaf
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He was the best MS last season

north relic
earnest leaf
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When it came to lucio/mercy he was #1 imo

north relic
willow tartan
north relic
willow tartan
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Big dick mercy gameplay

tawdry hamlet
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Imagine how stacked Chengdu would be if they kept molly too

worn falcon
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Yveltal dps mercy

tawdry hamlet
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The mega support line

worn falcon
earnest leaf
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It is funny watching yvetal whip out his gun on mercy constantly

north relic
worn falcon
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Yeh

earnest leaf
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10 hp and dps running me down? Glock out bitch

worn falcon
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He does so much that

willow tartan
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Mmonk Yveltal Nisha Faraway Molly

tawdry hamlet
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Mmonk Molly Farway would be a criminal hoarding of supports lmao

north relic
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How does yveltal have like 1.8 blaster kills per 10

worn falcon
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Also surprisingly we didn't get like huge changes to OWL like last year

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I mean patch wise

willow tartan
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They are waiting for the 5 supports + Reinhardt meta

worn falcon
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This time was what? The hitscan nerf

willow tartan
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The playoffs patch is not here yet...

worn falcon
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Back to Echo i guess

tawdry hamlet
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The amount of really good benched flex supports this year go crazy

worn falcon
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Which ones?

willow tartan
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m1ka moment

worn falcon
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I think there was more fs than anything

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On brig jail

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Honestly, I wonder how many current players are gonna drop OWL

willow tartan
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I'm gonna say at least 6

worn falcon
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Before we get OWL Contenders Edition

willow tartan
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(The Los Angeles Valiant)

wild cape
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is there ever a possibility of new teams joining the league or is it out of the question

worn falcon
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It was planned for this and next season

wild cape
worn falcon
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Then covid and actiblizz thing happened

wild cape
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did they specify the teams or countries

willow tartan
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But Covid = teams make less money

worn falcon
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Plus how expensive were the slots

willow tartan
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So maybe next year.

worn falcon
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30-50m per slots

wild cape
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sheesh

worn falcon
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And org not getting profit from blizz

wild cape
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me omw to win the lottery just so avoided can be an overwatch league team

willow tartan
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they would never sell profit

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he's a league icon

worn falcon
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This season was to convince investors with the homesteads

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But you know

willow tartan
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So was last season LOL

worn falcon
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Wait that was last year

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Yes

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Yeh last year was to convince investors

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Covid happened

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Now were in covid 2 electric bogaloo

willow tartan
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I don't get ppl acting like the end of the world though. Life moves on and so will the League when covid is finally gone.

wild cape
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Covid: The Third

willow tartan
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Maybe not in America, but we don't need any more American teams ;)

wild cape
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Australia would be cool

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but really really unlikely I’d assume

worn falcon
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Iirc was to have many teams in USA like the NBA, NFL, Soccer and such

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And having slot for china/korea/any part of EU

willow tartan
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USA has football teams lol?

wild cape
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yeah they have a league

willow tartan
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When was the last time USSF made a tournament?

worn falcon
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The thing is OWL was developed using the same structure as your regular sports

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That's why we see many executives with experience in those up here

wild cape
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except without throwback uniforms apparently

willow tartan
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Eh, it's built more like American franchised sports leagues.

worn falcon
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Like the last commissioner

willow tartan
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Like the NBA and NFL

worn falcon
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Yep, NFL/NBA

wild cape
willow tartan
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Bro I can't even buy merch they don't ship here.

worn falcon
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Instead happening organically like Riot stuff

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Or Apex tournie

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They're stubborn with the franchise thing and sponsors

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also homestead would be became a mess

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teams traveling here and there every week

earnest leaf
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Also

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shanghai have no excuse for not winning this season

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They have everything working in their favor atm

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should win it all

worn falcon
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Inb4 they choke

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Wouldn't be the first top team who flops hard

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London, Seoul, NYXL, Shock

tawdry hamlet
wild cape
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oh cool

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but not really

tawdry hamlet
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I buy off brand owl merch because fuck spending 100 bucks on a jersey lmaoo

worthy void
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is there a double elim bracket to get in play offs

wild cape
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but playoffs is double

worthy void
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ah alr

willow tartan
earnest leaf
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and ball getting buffed for playoff patch

tawdry hamlet
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Unless there is a hard hog meta or a super hard ball nerf. Shanghai have no excuse other than they just got beat

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Especially with na teams having to travel lmao

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It's weird Dallas and Shanghai going ez has almost given me this idea that maybe they aren't as high above the rest as we thought, maybe they are weakened

willow tartan
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dallas maybe but I have full faith in Shanghai

tawdry hamlet
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Idk LA was playing insane overwatch that easily could have kept up with Dallas imo

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Yeah Shanghai played bench players so I know they were meming for sure

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But Dallas im not sure

willow tartan
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Before Dallas were taking it easy they were already on a downward trajectory (in terms of how close their games were)

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah

willow tartan
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Shanghai so far has gotten better every stage.

tawdry hamlet
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But na was also on a downward trajectory as a whole considering after June joust where Dallas got reverse yeeted and then na as a whole just got fucked in summer showdown since Dallas and Atlanta could beat all of na with their own comps, but they couldn't actually play ball lmao

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So na just got bodied so hard

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Shanghai coming out in summer showdown on pharah was just such a curveball that it made them look amazing

willow tartan
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The real curve ball for me was when they whipped out the counter-counter comp with the reaper winston shit against Chengdu and shut them down entirely.

tawdry hamlet
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Also been thinking decay to a team like Florida to cover tracer echo type metas could be sick

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Imagine yaki echo decay tracer ablobsunglasses

sullen berry
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At this rate I'd start relegating decay's hot streaks to faint embers

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I've yet to watch a justice match however, so enlighten me if he still plays carry for them

tawdry hamlet
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I mean to be fair, mechanically he has looked as good as ever, his team itself is just imploding from lack of any synergy much like Florida

willow tartan
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Honestly though, Shanghai has got to win right? If they're ever going to win, this year is the year.

tawdry hamlet
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This year the ball is 100 percent in their court

earnest leaf
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Been saying decay is overrated since before the season started

tawdry hamlet
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I said that about profit

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And got so much shit

sullen berry
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I was wondering when we'd start to see the ghost of Fissure resurrected in a DPS player

willow tartan
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If the meta reverts to skew towards heavily NA playstyles then that might cause some trouble.

tawdry hamlet
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Seoul is literally just gz but with better dps and a flex support

sullen berry
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I think decay can bounce back, he hasn't been That demotivated this year being an all KR roster

tawdry hamlet
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I hope Jerry sees more playtime the few times he was able to run Ashe cree he looked lethall

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Wish Boston had kept him and just signed a tracer player rather than have im37 do it 🥺

sullen berry
willow tartan
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Gesture > Rio

tawdry hamlet
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GZ GAMERHANDSHAKE Seoul
Depending on dps popping off aside from minor pop off plays by one player ie crong / creative

willow tartan
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I still would like to point out that Profit has gotten POTM for 50% of all the games Seoul have won.

tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
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He's literally been the most MVP MVP in OWL history.

tawdry hamlet
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I don't know what to do with nyxl, what could they upgrade besides Friday and Yakpung since I assume jjonak is never leaving

willow tartan
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I bet all the s1 players have an ongoing bet where the last person to leaves the league gets money

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like a mr beast video

tawdry hamlet
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Loll

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Last person to leave the overwatch league wins a Lamborghini!

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Or wait

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Last person to take their hand off the overwatch league wins a Lamborghini

willow tartan
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They've been putting a percentage of their league earnings to it and the prize pool gets bigger every season.

tawdry hamlet
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Imagine it's like free parking in Monopoly just all the tax money and shit plopped in the middle

willow tartan
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It's exactly like that.

tawdry hamlet
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Lolll

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I hope spark don't fumble this off season please

tawdry hamlet
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They have good tank pieces and an amazing rookie dps talent, architect is not amazing but dependable, seominsoo literally shouldn't be on the team lmao, and supports barely got play time

sullen berry
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Spark is a lot like old GZ - a gatekeeper season for the bottom 4 and nothing more lately

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Due to communication issues between players

willow tartan
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they dont need to change anything they just need to play their players

sullen berry
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And I doubt it's entirely Chinese Korean based, but a couple things indicate it as such

tawdry hamlet
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They should sign Choi or Eileen

willow tartan
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where is godsb btw

sullen berry
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Upgrade Architects mental, he has shown up but it's really inconsistent

tawdry hamlet
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I can see why godsb left because no playtime after seeing shy on hitscan

sullen berry
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Like shitting on Hunters at their homestand while subsequently eliminated by NYXL out of nowhere

tawdry hamlet
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GodsB just can't compete with that

willow tartan
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he has a place in the league though

tawdry hamlet
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Godsb gz would be nice

willow tartan
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yes it would

tawdry hamlet
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Shame mykayleee didn't pan out

sullen berry
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I think it's upsetting our head coach didn't proper

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Coaching was a mess this year

willow tartan
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remember when ppl were saying mer1t was gonna go to charge

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and then that never happened

tawdry hamlet
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Idk why I had so much pre season hype for charge waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

sullen berry
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Not as bad as London, or the even younger talent like on Titans

tawdry hamlet
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I swore kruise just made kariv look bottom tier but it turns out he just is now

sullen berry
willow tartan
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what did i say in november i wonder

tawdry hamlet
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I said mykayleee Roty so uhh, yeah

sullen berry
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I was ready to expect disappointment when mandu was signed, I never ever saw a game he was subbed in that he looked all that comfortable

tawdry hamlet
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Chara going to coaching is a shame

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He was dependable albeit not amazing

sullen berry
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And NYXL managed to sell him off beside some of the best players among sbb, Mano, and hitba (lol)

tawdry hamlet
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Fucking insane to see what Nero happy Shu can do with proper coaching tho sheesh

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It's just crazy what not playing boink and Muma can do for a team lmaoo

sullen berry
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Nero has looked so far a lot better off, since Charge's founding principles have gone to the gutter after failing to secure any more western international visas

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Seeing as they thought Rio and Cr0ng were enough to hold the fort, their dividends were actually really solid

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5 out of 8 of their staff and players in 2020 have moved onto teams that have improved so much

  • GLA Shu, Brenda, Tydolla
  • HOU Happy (junk buck should be taking credit for better coaching)
  • SFS Nero
  • Chara as asst. Coach of T1, who are looking much improved and scrimmed with Glads
willow tartan
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look at this gem of a post

tawdry hamlet
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was charge founding principles to not only sign apac talent?

sullen berry
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Internal visa delays and having to get renewed constantly was too much. Lots of moving parts last year made it tough to sub out players

willow tartan
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where would this team rank this season

tawdry hamlet
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assuming ans can pull off sombra it would probably be best in the world

willow tartan
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wrong. they still lose to the seoul dynasty in the main tank hog meta

tawdry hamlet
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true

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oh and lose genji meta to dallas

next mesa
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Ans is lip with worse sombra and better widow

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alarm = izayaki

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so yeah top team

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top 1

willow tartan
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if we're going to take this all stars team seriously then technically the dps rotation would be fleta ans profit

next mesa
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oh fuck

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gg

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its over

tawdry hamlet
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this season I would say lip >ans = fits > carpe

willow tartan
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LIP has gone super saiyan this season

next mesa
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I would say lip > fits > ans >=carpe

tawdry hamlet
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fair

next mesa
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fair too

willow tartan
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honestly yeah

next mesa
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I respect ur opinion

tawdry hamlet
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carpe hasn't had any exceptionally bad performances or anything just upper mid af with occasional pop offs

willow tartan
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he's always been that sort of player

next mesa
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carpe's been solid honestly

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just the team diff wack

willow tartan
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does consistently good but sometimes has pop off moments that makes him look like the best player in the world

tawdry hamlet
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idk what the problem with that team is, the only thing I can think of is eqo inconsistent and mano maybe

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otherwise I really don't know

willow tartan
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Ninek

tawdry hamlet
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eqo has had some great pop off moments

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this year

willow tartan
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okay but like

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none of fusion are particularly playing like really bad

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individually as players

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they just suck when they're together

tawdry hamlet
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hotba has looked good surprisingly lmao

willow tartan
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hotba and alarm have been the best on the team lowkey

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(consistency)

willow tartan
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Dude why the fuck is T500 support so stacked compared to other roles.

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ok just checked european dps

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that's kind of getting out of hand

next mesa
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Lol

willow tartan
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they are the only people who have 4.7 accs

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and they have 10 of them

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how the fuck does ysnza have 700 games played this season

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The bench is doing him well.

next mesa
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Seoul about to get vindaim off season it's gonna be over

tawdry hamlet
hasty gull
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true

hasty gull
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he plays in ow esports?

balmy wolf
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i hate toronto

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shit org

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shit team

hasty gull
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I hate shock

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fans championship bandwaggoners

hasty gull
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mhmm

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I love titans

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got breadsticks

balmy wolf
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i love breadsticks

hasty gull
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did their best in the bread bowl

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even though they lost

balmy wolf
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i hate toronto tho

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fuck toronto

hasty gull
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why

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what did they do to you?

balmy wolf
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shit org
shit team

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annoying fans

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the whole package

hasty gull
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annoying fans hmmm?

balmy wolf
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nobody cares about that team literally

hasty gull
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I mean who do you support

balmy wolf
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like spark in apac

balmy wolf
hasty gull
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oh yeah spark are either good or absolutely awful

hasty gull
balmy wolf
hasty gull
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wdym ur gonna get flamed

balmy wolf
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its too toxic

hasty gull
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aight

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I support philly if u couldnt tell

balmy wolf
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seems painful but what do i know

hasty gull
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and watching them is usually pain for me

balmy wolf
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f

hasty gull
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especially the seoul and chengdu reverse sweeps

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which we should have easily won both of those games

balmy wolf
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yes

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philly choke power

hasty gull
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yep

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thing is we have a great roster with a lot of talent but as soon as something goes wrong we flop

plush grail
hot onyx
devout path
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Y’all see the gator tweets?

tawdry hamlet
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Yes

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His team is top 4 in the league and he can't even play playoffs with pelican on normal ping whil apac teams get to play from their practice facilities kek. That's his point. He isn't arguing covid isn't bad or anything he's just mad his team is getting cucked over and over

devout path
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Yeah

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He worded it really poorly though

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah lmao fr

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He could've elaborated and spared himself the controversy

devout path
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I wanna see pelican not on ping sad

tawdry hamlet
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Still this sets up Shanghai so well, if they don't manage a win this finals I'll be surprised

devout path
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True

tawdry hamlet
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This is Shanghais to lose at this point, hog meta is their only weakness

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And at this point I'm sure void hog is good enough

devout path
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Only problem I could see is the relaxing for CC puts them behind on the meta

tawdry hamlet
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Maybe but even if the meta shifted back towards monkey Shanghai is never not gonna force ball this year lmao

devout path
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If meta shifts towards monkey I’d be convinced blizzard is forcing Dallas to win

tawdry hamlet
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Eh, in countdown cup glads played monkey ana comp the majority of time

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So it kind of has already

devout path
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I only remember that on like Anubis

hasty gull
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Like im not saying I’d do better

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But philly are so momentum based

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And we keel over as soon as something goes wrong

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we should have won

hot onyx
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Not really, in 2nd match vs Seoul they played insanely poorly except for the map they won which was Blizzard World?

hasty gull
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Yeah they played like shit

hot onyx
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And even if they won they would’ve been slaughtered in 4th place

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God I miss KDG

hasty gull
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mhmm

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didnt he go to toronto

hot onyx
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Yep

hasty gull
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We had a weird season tho

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we had eqo, shockwave and astro with visa issues for most of the season and still dont have poko

hot onyx
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Next season better, trust

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“The Philadelphia Fusion announce the release of head coach NineK” LucioCool

hasty gull
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If we stayed in NA im not convinced we'd be doing as well as last year

hot onyx
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“The Philadelphia Fusion announce the signing of head coach IMT” ZenyattaCry

hasty gull
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if only we still had kdg

hot onyx
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And Heesu

wild cape
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this is a cold take

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but philly is the most mid team in the league

hot onyx
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“Yeah guys I don’t think that releasing our only good sombra player is going to shaft us whatsoever look at the funny Titans chap, he’s definitely going to play for more than one map this season”

hot onyx
wild cape
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thought so

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HZS on their way to knock out philly

hot onyx
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Now now we said mid, not bottom

wild cape
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eh, they’re bottom without carpe

hot onyx
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Fusion are going to beat Spark convincingly and then lose to Seoul in another 5 mapper to make it hurt that much more

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Now that is a hot take

hot onyx
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Admittedly I had more hope for the Spark before the season started but after continuing to bench LiGe and M1ka through nearly the entire season and all the coaching switcheroos I just lost all faith in them

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Not to mention MCD

wild cape
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they’re the only other team I’m still rooting for besides the outlaws

wild cape
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he was getting benched anyways so it’s all good

hot onyx
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Fair

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Just be like a Shock fan and start rooting for the team that is winning

hasty gull
hot onyx
#

They also went 4-0 in JJ

hasty gull
lyric adder
#

what

hasty gull
#

not the same guy they have now

wild cape
#

they’re inconsistent but it’s still “winnable” as the kids say

wild cape
hasty gull
#

He seemed pretty good

#

like yeah he's replaceable

#

but he did do pretty good

hot onyx
#

He’s not on the level of Fielder Izayaki or Alarm

hasty gull
#

no he isnt

#

thats way to much of a stretch

wild cape
#

outlaws, mayhem, and spark fan 😔

hot onyx
#

But he was a serviceable fs who did his job

hasty gull
#

yeah

#

mayhem flopped after mm

mortal abyss
#

I think spark have a decent chance of beating fusion

wild cape
#

based

wild cape
#

hangzhou hopium

mortal abyss
#

I think apac play ins will be
Fusion roll spark and then get fucked by dynasty
OR
Spark suddenly pop off

hot onyx
#

I think Seoul has no chance of losing play ins

mortal abyss
#

I don’t want to have expectations for fusion

hasty gull
#

yeah seoul are gonna destory either team

hot onyx
#

Lift your expectations for next year

tawdry hamlet
#

Seominsoo Sombra shy tracer guxue monkey lige dva/zarya Mika Coldest support line ez claps

hot onyx
#

If the Florida Mayhem implode

#

That would mean Fusion could get a free pass at Yaki

mortal abyss
#

Seoul have a massive advantage over fusion/spark it’s crazy

#

Why do play ins have to be in one day

#

There’s no rush

hasty gull
#

Guys if Seoul could play SBB do u think they'd be doing better

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
#

No

#

Profit > sbb tracer

#

Fits > sbb Sombra mcree Ashe

mortal abyss
#

Sbb would do nothing

hot onyx
#

Double hitscan

hasty gull
#

yeah I agree

#

Profit and Fits are a better dps duo

tawdry hamlet
#

Like I love sbb but he just isn't better than profits

mortal abyss
#

And sbb would have little to no synergy with everyone else

hot onyx
mortal abyss
#

Lol

hasty gull
tawdry hamlet
#

Bren speaking facts

hasty gull
#

yeah

tawdry hamlet
#

I got Pfizer back in March, it's fda approved now if you don't trust the CDC WHO FDA and literally every vaccinated person who hasn't had negative effects you're a maniac ☹️

plush grail
#

with some players being anti vaccine

#

live events are legit never gonna happen in the next few years man

tawdry hamlet
hot onyx
#

I just didn’t trust one of the vaccines that gave blood clots but other than that one I had no issue with the rest

tawdry hamlet
#

If Paris make finals they literally can't go lmaoo

hasty gull
plush grail
plush grail
hot onyx
hasty gull
#

I know they based in eu

tawdry hamlet
#

Kek

plush grail
#

over here in the netherlands the covid stuff is nearing the end

tawdry hamlet
#

They'd probably play on ping to Asia right? Since they can't get visas to Hawaii I'd assume?

hot onyx
#

I wanna go to New Zealand where the pm doesn’t pussyfoot their way around lockdowns

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
#

Literally Taiwan, new Zealand, literally any country where they aren't too pussy to lock up anti vax shitters

#

I'd love to go

plush grail
#

it's extreme but works

hasty gull
plush grail
#

as long was we have dumb antivaxxer in owl like space

#

we're not getting big live events

tawdry hamlet
hasty gull
#

what space is antivax?

tawdry hamlet
#

I'd hope space is like cool now he's so likable YouAFunnyMotherFucker

hot onyx
hasty gull
#

it does

plush grail
#

god bless new zealand

#

doing what must be done

mortal abyss
#

Isn’t the New Zealand pm like really cool

hasty gull
#

@hot onyx if we had chipsa the goat of ow we would have gone 16-0 won every tournament and won the league

mortal abyss
#

He absorbed all the bad luck for us

hot onyx
hasty gull
#

He was coaching right?

hot onyx
#

No he played a map

#

vs Titans

plush grail
#

FUSION

hasty gull
plush grail
#

AND WINNING???

#

AHAHAHAHAH

#

NO

#

TAKE #2

hasty gull
#

if he played the whole season

hot onyx
#

PARIS

#

WITHOUT HEAVY EM INFLUENCE

hasty gull
#

WE WOULD HAVE WON

hot onyx
#

AND WINNING???

#

AHAHAHA

#

NO

#

TAKE #3

mortal abyss
#

Paris can’t even go to hawaii for playoffs now

#

They have to sign an emergency roster

hasty gull
#

cya guys

hot onyx
#

Sign the entire Philadelphia Fusion as the emergency roster

#

Oki doki bye bye

plush grail
plush grail
mortal abyss
#

Lol

hot onyx
#

Ivy comes out of retirement

#

Boombox finally returns to the league after a year of EU Contenders hell

#

ChumpSa comes in clutch last map

plush grail
#

bro the fusion copium

#

this is sad

#

please stop

hot onyx
#

Next year

#

They will reclaim their rightful title

#

Don’t doubt shitter

#

The Dallas Fuel will go bankrupt and have to release all their players for a budget roster, so it leaves Hanbin and Fearless prime targets for T1’s “fuck you” money

plush grail
#

5 blocked messages

hot onyx
#

||cool||

plush grail
#

jk ily

hot onyx
#

ily 2 < 3

hasty gull
#

bruh looking back on my preseason power rankings I realise how bad they were

#

and how they aged like milk

#

u guys wanna see them?

hot onyx
#

Always

#

Cannot be worse than mine

hasty gull
#

aight

hot onyx
#

Lemme guess

hasty gull
#

i'll have to just tell u them

hot onyx
#

You’re not regular?

#

Send them in a dm to me and I’ll post em

#

Cheat the system

hasty gull
#

aight

#

they are pretty awful

hot onyx
#

They are

#

But mine are worse

hasty gull
#

Florida 5th London 7th Chengdu 13th Houston 17th Boston 18th

hot onyx
#

Trust me, mine are worse

hasty gull
#

Dude

#

SPARK 8TH

hot onyx
#

I had faith in them being consistent and solid

#

But that was the scenario that they constantly ran their chinese squad

hasty gull
#

mhmm

hot onyx
#

Charge above Fuel and Hunters sticks out like a sore thumb

hasty gull
#

atlanta 15th kek

hot onyx
#

I felt that Atlanta was just repeating itself last year

#

Great dps but mid-bottom tier tank and support line

hasty gull
#

mhmm

#

yep

hot onyx
#

I had Gator and Hawk as a bottom 5 tank line before the season started

mortal abyss
#

Same

hot onyx
#

Rated Hadi and Molf1g higher tbh

#

And boy that bit me in the ass

#

I’m proud of the NYXL and Dragons placing

hasty gull
#

i put dallas 10th

#

lol

#

aged well

#

not like they are one of the best teams

hot onyx
#

Originally I had Boston > NYXL, London > Atlanta and Defiant > Justice

#

You should’ve seen my rankings before Justice signed Assassin

hasty gull
hasty gull
hot onyx
#

I think I can find them

hasty gull
#

mostly the same

hot onyx
#

A and B have changed

#

Dallas and Justice down a spot

#

Defiant 6th

hasty gull
#

Defiant 6th lmao

devout path
fallen turret
#

Atlanta 14th lol

hot onyx
#

15th*

hasty gull
devout path
hasty gull
#

Ehh

#

its alright

#

quite a few awful ones tho

devout path
#

This was mine

hot onyx
#

Some weird choices, some logical choices that just turned out incorrect

hasty gull
#

Boston 4th!!!

devout path
#

I’m a Boston fan

hot onyx
hot onyx
hasty gull
#

well boston A tier aged like milk

devout path
devout path
hot onyx
#

Was that tier list pre Assassin signing or post Assassin signing?

#

HIGH HOPES FOR STAND1

hasty gull
#

valentine is pretty good

devout path
#

My tier list was pre xzi retirement post philly rascal and hotba picks

#

And tobi

hot onyx
#

Honestly fair

hasty gull
#

Yeah fair

devout path
#

Valentine is kinda insane

hot onyx
#

Holy shit what was your problem with Spark?

devout path
#

They just didn’t have anything whatsoever in the first half of the season

#

And the weak areas of the team were really weak

hasty gull
#

tbh spark are pretty meh

devout path
hasty gull
#

I put them mid table

devout path
#

I knew guxue

#

Architect

hasty gull
#

Everyone put houston mid to bottom 5

hot onyx
#

LiGe

hasty gull
devout path
#

Plus I mean

hot onyx
#

Yeah Outlaws bottom 5 was a rational choice

hasty gull
#

everyone doubted them

devout path
hot onyx
#

Come on

devout path
#

Wait

#

Bottom 5 NA or bottom 5 overall

hasty gull
#

I put outlaws 17th because of the tanks and support

hasty gull
hot onyx
#

A relatively unknown tank duo from contenders, some rando from collegiate, Crimzo and a tracer otp

devout path
#

Tracer otp?

hasty gull
devout path
#

That’s a funny take

hot onyx
#

How would I have known that Danteh would’ve been a flex god on echo?

devout path
#

Because last season?

hasty gull
#

Can we just talk about me putting florida top 5

hot onyx
#

I didn’t like what I saw of his genji sombra and mei

#

And didn’t see much of his echo

#

So I figured if Outlaws were in a position where they had to field KSF or Hydration they would roll over and die

devout path
#

Well ok let’s think of it this way

#

There were basically 4 teams everyone had bottom 4

#

Being London paris valiant and titans

hasty gull
#

I put London 7th....

devout path
#

Ur just dumb idk what to tell you

hasty gull
#

I had hope in them ok

devout path
#

And I would argue that spark looked worse coming into the season than Houston

#

Because Houston at least had a very promising dps line and had good tank synergy

#

While spark had like

#

Lige and architect

hasty gull
#

My bottom 5 were Valiant Titans Uprising Outlaws and Charge

hasty gull
#

I didnt have a lot of faith in Joobi or Crimzo tho

devout path
#

I didn’t either

#

I thought crimzo would be ok I didn’t know much ab joobi tho

#

And the jake situation was weird

hasty gull
#

Yeah they got joobi out of collegiate as far as I know

devout path
#

Yeah

hasty gull
devout path
#

I was really high on nyxl

#

Coming into this season

#

I thought their dps line was really good coming into the season

hasty gull
#

I put them mid table but thought that they could possibly be strong

devout path
#

And I wasn’t exactly wrong

hasty gull
#

u werent tbh

devout path
#

Also jjonak is still good and I thought that yakpung would be at least ok

vagrant cargo
devout path
vagrant cargo
#

No good coaching, architecht was on a decline Same for guxue and i thought mcd wouldnt be good

#

Like not good at all

hasty gull
#

when kalios came in I felt nyxl were a lot better

vagrant cargo
#

And also shy kinda looked like shit pre season

#

And my bold pred was He would flop due to shitty coaching

#

Turned out wrong but could have been possible

hot onyx
#

This is gonna sound dumb

#

But I knew Guxue was a monke otp

#

I had faith in Takoyaki

vagrant cargo
#

Thats just

#

Not true

#

Did u not watch any S2 or S3 spark games

hot onyx
#

He had a good ball

vagrant cargo
#

And i expected tako to be permabenched He was always mid

#

Guxues second best hwro is easily rein

#

His rein was bananas in S2 and good in S3

hot onyx
#

I didn’t rate it that high but we all have opinions

#

In season 3

vagrant cargo
#

His ball was kinda shit but he improved a lot this season

#

I mean statwise his rein was rlly good qhile being on a team with one of the worst backlines majority of the yesr

#

Year*

hot onyx
#

Idk and Bebe

#

That is an illegally crap backline

#

Which barely improved with the shithouse that is MCD

wind imp
#

Contenders is actually kinda nutty

hasty gull
#

That aint big

#

Thats fucking fat

humble yarrow
#

What was the reason of MCD's contract termantaion?

balmy wolf
#

my preseason rankings

#

pretty accurate imo

devout path
balmy wolf
#

apac nearly perfect even if its easier

sacred trellis
#

when you carry your entire team and you yourself single handed cause your team to win yet no one votes on your card 😦

#

#anotherreasonwhyineedtouninstalloverwatch

#

game 2: backfilled to a team that trickles in 1 by one

wild cape
devout path
balmy wolf
sacred trellis
#

game 3: aimbotting widowmaker

devout path
#

And Atlanta

devout path
balmy wolf
devout path
#

Oh yeah that was a thing

devout path
balmy wolf
#

close ur mouth dummy

devout path
#

No smiley face

wintry kraken
sacred trellis
#

game 4: point a capped 2 players on my team then leave

#

this is litteraly how my games are going

balmy wolf
devout path
#

Ha

balmy wolf
#

no

#

bad joe

devout path
#

Joke*

#

Learn to spell

sullen berry
balmy wolf
devout path
balmy wolf
plush grail
#

AHAHAHAHHA

#

POINT AND LAUGH

balmy wolf
plush grail
#

NO

#

SHUT UP

balmy wolf
#

i was generous

#

had faith in kaan

north relic
tropic herald
#

Neptuno on pre season paris btw

north relic
#

is ellivote ever coming back

worn falcon
#

Nevervote

#

He taking a break and doing coaching stuff apparently

north relic
#

wrist problems right

worn falcon
#

yep

next mesa
#

we all underrated dallas

#

"fearless and sparkle too inflexible"

#

"fielder isn't s tier"

#

"jecse sucks ass"

#

"hanbin's dva isnt that good"

mortal abyss
#

Yup

hasty gull
#

Yup

#

I definitely did

worn falcon
#

how spark is 5

#

and fusion 4

#

shame on them

next mesa
#

spark about to beat fusion and seoul with their new support lineup

north relic
#

so did justice actually choose paris because of the jerry ttuba egg game

willow tartan
#

wait did they say everything will be online or only playoffs

#

no LAN grand finals?

#

what if the top two teams are in the same region

#

shanghai/chengdu

willow tartan
#

Moving on to bigger and better things.

worn falcon
#

Rip fissure

#

Enjoying the adult life of bills and sadness

willow tartan
#

We all gotta grow up at some point.

north relic
#

what is he pursuing

worn falcon
#

being adult

#

he didnt said, just taking classes to become a employee

willow tartan
#

preparing himself for the regular workforce

#

I don't know how skills will transfer but he's got it

north relic
#

was he making money from streaming

vagrant cargo
vagrant cargo
next mesa
#

He might be but he's so good at Winston he can force it

north relic
#

Hanbin was probably a top 5 dva last year

next mesa
#

dva was barely meta last year

hot onyx
#

So I’m sitting here eating my fish and chips

#

And it suddenly hit me

#

That the Guangzhou Charge has a fan base

next mesa
#

fish and chips is kinda overrated

sullen berry
#

This comment gets it

hot onyx
sullen berry
#

Who is better than fissure?
Nobody
😦

next mesa
#

u cant overrate the goat

#

sadge fissure

#

that runaway team man

#

what could have been

#

😭

#

FUCK

sullen berry
#

and the only players even close to even a fraction of what he could have been rests in folks who play dps

humble yarrow
next mesa
#

they have coldest m1ka

#

better support line

willow tartan
#

^^^

#

coldest m1ka > mcd idk

tawdry hamlet
#

LOL

#

get zepped

vivid solar
#

@sullen berry m8

sullen berry
#

k thx

worn falcon
#

was a huge text?

trail perch
balmy wolf
#

obi muted?

#

wtf

worn falcon
#

bruh

#

ask the mod to post your text lmao

sullen berry
#

Avalla 😔

#

Anyways I believe most of you have the brains to piece it together, Zep did nothing wrong

#

Even Chengdu's GM had something to say about the travel options for their players:

#

I swear if I get banned for this wall of text I'll actually leave the server

willow tartan
#

It's not a conspiracy theory. People just can't get visas is all.

sullen berry
#

OG cross post from weibo: https://mobile.twitter.com/d_aily_ow/status/1430797594217779208?s=21
A few things about the LAN matches and our trip to US:
Actually about the LAN games, the team has maintained positive and active close communication with the league. The entire planning and logistics process was way longer than what people might think.

Luke(GM of CDH) on OWL update

  1. Visa isn't big problem
  2. Biggest problem is there's no flight for CDH members
  3. Also there's safety issue since Jimmy can't be vaccinated (ankylsoing spondylitis)
  4. I believe OWL made the decision after consulting all teams for advice
#

"Our prep work (special visa, pre-visa plea docs, local connection in NA, budget application, real time updates etc) already started during summer showdown, and we recently booked face-to-face interviews with US embassy, and planned to go for the interviews together on Sep 2nd in shanghai. Visas weren't the main issue for the team."

#

The fact this is so in-depth is what impresses me

willow tartan
#

"Our" as in the hunters?

sullen berry
#

It's the Hunters GM Luke

willow tartan
#

Right, right.

#

I assume that other teams had some issues though.

#

Wait what did you mean by "so in-depth"?

sullen berry
#

Chengdu is lesser known for international tourism of the four CN teams - Hangzhou grew fast in the past decade, while Guangzhou and Shanghai especially are already established spaces

willow tartan
#

Chengdu has less tourism yeah.

tawdry hamlet
#

Jimmy waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

sullen berry
#

"We have consulted multiple travel suppliers from the parent company and were told its impossible for all 16 to go to the US together; meanwhile some player's parents also expressed their concerns, especially Jimmy who cannot be vaccinated due to ankylosing spondylitis. "

willow tartan
#

Jimmy Sadge

sullen berry
#

That part right there, seems a little private unless that was something Jimmy was fine sharing in public

willow tartan
#

Why do so many esports players get nasty health problems

#

mfers have access to like personal life coaches n shit

tawdry hamlet
#

Arthritis is no fun, that is unfortunate for Jimmy

willow tartan
#

Jimmy needs to reserve his strength for the playoffs.

sullen berry
#

Ankylosing spondylitis

willow tartan
#

Glad he's been taking it easy.

sullen berry
#

I find the connection surprising af

willow tartan
#

?

#

wym

balmy wolf
#

we are fucked without pelican

#

gg

tawdry hamlet
#

Rip

sullen berry
#

You can't be vaccinated if you have arthritis?

#

That Id love to learn more about

tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
#

I think it's not so much the health problem itself but the medication that they take might not play nice with the covid vaccine.

sullen berry
#

Luke (Hunters GM) has planned for the worse as well. Say if a player were to contract COVID it'll have irreversable long term damage to players' mental, physical wellbeing and their career.
He also mentions that it's not ideal that they have to play online, but he believes it's a decision made with respect to feedback internally and with safety as their number one concern.

willow tartan
#

good guy luke

tawdry hamlet
#

Shame the na teams didn't get to choose whether they'd risk contracting covid through travel or just play from home

#

Pandemic times

willow tartan
#

What, give the players the choice to give themselves covid?

#

I guess that is what the government is doing with the rest of the population.

tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
#

Besides, aren't they flying to Manoa for ping anyways?

#

Close enough.

#

Like what, 90 ping?

sullen berry
#

University better get set to put on a show

#

That

#

Or accommodate three times as many teams onsite

willow tartan
#

you are red?

#

you are red!

sullen berry
#

Quinquennial red, mind you

willow tartan
#

Red is red.

sullen berry
#

It looks better after getting muted multiple times LOL

tawdry hamlet
#

I meant it is a shame the na teams who have members that can't travel due to illnesses just have to play anyway regardless while teams like Chengdu just get to play from practice facility with their full team 😔. Not bashing the system, just like, sucks ass pandemic made it like this.

willow tartan
#

which NA teams have no-fly players?

tawdry hamlet
#

Remember when they said covid would be over by the end of 2020 omegalul waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

willow tartan
#

Remember a time before covid? Me neither.

sullen berry
#

No fly players, how about we go back to teams for a second

willow tartan
#

Yeah what happens if Paris makes the playoffs?

#

They will fly the Paris team to compete from French Polynesia.

tawdry hamlet
#

I remember in 2020 well in a few months I'll be able to get out more it is all good. And now a full year later here we are and nothing's changed lmaoo

sullen berry
#

Paris could still play remote, but gg their chances if APAC suddenly know how to play on 160+ ping

#

OWL probably won't accept a match being played over 120ms

willow tartan
#

How would Paris play remotely from Europe to China.

willow tartan
tawdry hamlet
#

Paris need to make it through now just for lols lmaoo

sullen berry
#

Yes but if the whole team is fielder what do

willow tartan
#

if the whole team is fielder you win anyway

willow tartan
tawdry hamlet
#

Bro I got it, Paris gonna make the playoffs, not be able to go, give their spot to shock, and shock three peat with that spot Salutations

balmy wolf
#

atleast i have something to complain about poggers

willow tartan
#

Then they can use their own equipment as well.

sullen berry
#

@next mesa Paris can't mess this up a third time, I need an underdog for the playoffs now that Glads have secured a spot with Dallas and Ratlanta

tawdry hamlet
#

Lmaoo when we getting an international waters game of owl ez

willow tartan
#

legit i think that would be one of the few ways they could do it

next mesa
#

huh what

willow tartan
#

Unless they got a direct waiver from a government to allow them to fly

sullen berry
#

You've had four chances, but may melee didn't count

tawdry hamlet
#

Imagine though they are all playing on boats parked next to each other lmao

willow tartan
#

Yeah.

#

If covid continues on to next year

#

We will have floating barges for homestands and live events.

#

Ppl bring their own boats n shit

sullen berry
#

But now Eternal has a shit shot at playoffs contention vs Washington

#

I thought I deleted the shit

willow tartan
#

Like a drive-in theater but instead of cars its boats and instead of movies its a live OWL game

tawdry hamlet
#

Justice playoff run part 2 aBES_Hyper

willow tartan
#

I would be down for that.

balmy wolf
#

yoooo

willow tartan
#

GG map pool

balmy wolf
#

they are renaming mccree

#

lol

willow tartan
#

????

#

they are?

#

joke

balmy wolf
#

jesse mcrightclick is my guess

#

suits the char

mortal abyss
balmy wolf
willow tartan
#

Fuck Overwatch

#

That's so stupid.

#

I get why they did it 'cause people were upset about it but I fuckin' hate it.

#

Every single fibre of my body.

balmy wolf
#

ye

#

i dont like it

mortal abyss
#

i mean

balmy wolf
#

but oh well

mortal abyss
#

does it really make much of a difference

willow tartan
#

People were getting upset about it so it was in Blizzard's best interest to change it.

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No I don't care about the name change itself. I just hate the idea of it. I hate the principle.

balmy wolf
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atleast we get content pooooog

willow tartan
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I don't understand why people feel the need to change shit like that.

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Letting bad people and bad events ruin your otherwise fine stuff.

balmy wolf
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needs a whole ass scandal to get smth new lmaooo

willow tartan
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I just hate the idea of that.

sullen berry
willow tartan
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Ugh... Hate that shit.

tawdry hamlet