leave profit fleta
#esports-discussion
willow tartan
north relic
what about decay in terms of mechanics
willow tartan
i mean theres like decay danteh and LIP who also have great tracers
north relic
yaki as well
north relic
danteh is above average on everything but never great imo
ivory stag
Id say S tier is Lip, profit, leave then A+ is Kevstar then A tier is danteh, sp9rk1e then B is Yaki
next mesa
Playoff Profit Vs Throwhard changgoon
Striker btw
best mechanics
Honestly
as a profit stan
ivory stag
Striker isnt in owl anymore though is he?
willow tartan
dude you cant just like
willow tartan
make LIP an s tier tracer and not have fleta in the same tier
next mesa
its cracked
willow tartan
when he's the better tracer player
ivory stag
idk i havnt seen enough of the two tbh
whos the best at consistant sticks and or ult kills?
forest raven
Striker isn't in owl but he's still the best tracer to touch the game
willow tartan
Fleta and Profit are really similar players which was why I really enjoyed their rivalry alongside the Shanghai vs Seoul rivalry from last year.
It was so entertaining to watch, it was like which between the two could pop off more.
next mesa
he will be next year
willow tartan
They have similar hero pools so 99% of the time they would be mirroring too.
next mesa
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/p9y5s1/playoffs_profit_stops_the_chengdu_hunters/ lets go baby
willow tartan
Profit is the Most Valuable MVP
willow tartan
creative isnt bad alarm is just gamer
tawdry hamlet
yeah I know, that is what is so frustrating, alarm is playing crazy this year and still looks worse than last year because his team loll
forest raven
Alarm is such an easy way to make Philly fans mald ngl
tawdry hamlet
yeah he is
willow tartan
what about him?...
tawdry hamlet
because he is crazy and they still lose :((
alarm is the silent philly carry on god
willow tartan
not silent
forest raven
If Alarm was gods gift to flex support like y'all say he is why this team never do anything
etc.
willow tartan
like based on this season performance
hes been performing the best
out of anyone else on the team
He's like Fusion's nero.
tawdry hamlet
literally just watch the philly games and he hits all the important sleeps, farms ult, and does all the right shit then everyone else just falls apart 😦
so sadge
philly is weirdge, they looked better in the may melee
willow tartan
honestly if alarm wasnt so cracked then LIP would've been ROTY last year
tawdry hamlet
I wonder what would happen if philly forced tobi
forest raven
Lip should have been roty last year
tawdry hamlet
hmm
forest raven
Fuckin accomplished more than Alarm did
tawdry hamlet
hmm
willow tartan
Honestly though, outside of LIP and Alarm I don't think any other people were in the running for ROTY.
i guess you could technically say ans
but he joined later on in the szn iirc
xzi was up there too but paris bad team
forest raven
Ans was signed on 23rd December, 2019
willow tartan
yeah but i dont remember him being fielded much
i remember there was a lot of questions around the signing of ans
forest raven
He absolutely fucking dominated in the may melee
forest raven
He played a lot of widow
willow tartan
LIP/Alarm/LJG/Xz I'd say were the closest for ROTY last year
forest raven
Widow very good back then
willow tartan
yes why cant widow be more good wtf
willow tartan
i want more WIDOW gameplay in my owl damn it
forest raven
Ans played in every single map of the may melee tournament games in 2020
And played a lot of maps in the games before that when covid was fucking everything up and it all moved online
devout path
Ans played in 0 may melee games in 2021
willow tartan
ngl i dont remember much of the NA MM
forest raven
Thank you for the contribution lily
willow tartan
they streamed at ungodly hours
florida was epicly cracked though
yaki bqb stonks
forest raven
They 3-1'd the 'unstoppable' fusion
next mesa
make a 6 man team but only 1 player from each time max
idea stolen from cow
me would be I think: Leave Profit Fearless Choi Alarm LJG
willow tartan
Fearless Void Profit Leave Alarm, Moth
north relic
LIP/Alarm/LJG/Xz I'd say were the closest for ROTY last year
No ans?
north relic
Do you guys rate alarm above shu
next mesa
I feel like for me, LJG just has to be the main support
okay how about Jjonak LJG Muze Hanbin Profit Lip
badabing badaboom
actually drop muze get ga9a
forest raven
okay how about Jjonak LJG Muze Hanbin Profit Lip
This has two shanghai players
next mesa
oh fuck
north relic
Smort
next mesa
okay drop lip get shy
mbmb
I watched a lot of flex support vods
and I know that jjonak's mechanics is till at least top 3
(maybe not on bap omegalol)
earnest leaf
just a reminder ans carried 2020 shock frequently
next mesa
yea but can he cover profit's only weakness: echo
forest raven
LJG/Alarm/Hanbin/Leave/Pelican/idk main tank
next mesa
solid solid
willow tartan
ljg/alarm is lock
devout path
Problem with ljg is that I want fate
forest raven
super main tank 
willow tartan
problem with ljg is i want void fate lip fleta izayaki
forest raven
Shanghai better win this season dawg
worn falcon
send ljg to shock
willow tartan
Shanghai better win and if they don't win I want it to be a massive nine mapper upset from a team playing perfect overwatch
if its just meta shift ill cry
tawdry hamlet
Fearless Void Decay Profit Skewed Mmonk 🙏
devout path
Fearless Void Decay Profit Skewed Mmonk 🙏
What about lucio and mercy
What about ball
tawdry hamlet
I'd only run the decay profit because tourneys would crank it up 
devout path
Or orisa
willow tartan
Diem/ANS/Kai/LIP/Glister/Fits is my team
tawdry hamlet
Widow 
Benched players roster who you got
Jihun Gaebullssi Ttuba Seominsoo Farway Tobi ez claps omegalul
Colourhex can be the backup dps 💀
Or maybe ksf
devout path
Diem/ANS/Kai/LIP/Glister/Fits is my team
Just wait for the 6 widow meta
tawdry hamlet
KSF isn't even that bad honestly
willow tartan
Benched players roster who you got
Jihun Gaebullssi Ttuba Seominsoo Farway Tobi ...
Does Poko count as benched?
tawdry hamlet
I'd think so
willow tartan
put poko on rein
devout path
Yes but poko still have visa issues
willow tartan
nah my benched roster includes OGE
willow tartan
Benched players roster who you got
Jihun Gaebullssi Ttuba Seominsoo Farway Tobi ...
Jihun/LiGe/Develop/SeoMinSoo/Faraway/FDGod
north relic
Jihun/LiGe/Develop/SeoMinSoo/Faraway/FDGod
Does smurf count as benched
willow tartan
i wouldnt say so
i wouldnt say tobi was benched either when he played most the szn
north relic
How good is faraway ana/bap
willow tartan
better than molly apparently
north relic
Rapel might be a good pick
fallen turret
Taiyo, develop, whoru are all decent
willow tartan
develop is secretly cracked and we don't know it
waiting for playoffs double sniper meta where he can flex
fallen turret
Aztac
north relic
Who would be the best benched mt
north relic
Dreamer is decent
willow tartan
would you say ameng benched
fallen turret
Yes
willow tartan
he played a decent amount of important games
willow tartan
like the fucking grand finals of all the stages chengdu have made
north relic
Would gesture or marvel be benched
willow tartan
neither
north relic
Dreamer would probably be better anyway
willow tartan
Jihun, Dreamer, Fusions and NvM are the only benched MTs
fallen turret
Tarocookie and jimmy are so easy to forget
north relic
Ngl I thought nvm was a support player
willow tartan
tarocookie left CDH
tawdry hamlet
Actually let me rephrase that, let's do a only played like 6 maps or less this season roster lmao like farway tarocookie aztac seominsoo types
willow tartan
has fdgod played six maps
north relic
Yes
tawdry hamlet
Omegalul
north relic
Has dreamer played 6 maps
tawdry hamlet
Spark and Chengdu combine to make a 12 man bench stack team omegalul
willow tartan
like at the start of the season they could field 2 teams and their b team would be better than hangzhou
willow tartan
they had before elsa retired
north relic
I thought you said he left
willow tartan
no i think he actually left his old team
to join chengdu
and thats why i got confused
he was on chengdu's academy team
north relic
So it’s ameng late young jimmy tarocookie faraway nisha
willow tartan
i think jinmu would play over one of them to cover the flex dps
but yeah
wouldve been yveltal though since nisha was fielded more at the start of the szn
forest raven
You know what's incredible about this season
The Hangzhou Spark is not the most disappointing team this year
How fucking ludicrous is that
willow tartan
That goes to the Washington Justice.
north relic
Who would it be
willow tartan
top 3 NA? lol sike
tawdry hamlet
Hmm Justice Philly Spark top 3 disappointments I'd say
north relic
Probably justice yeah
willow tartan
Coming into the season it was like Shock, Justice, Glads.
north relic
Would you say shock is disappointing
willow tartan
underwhelming
worn falcon
no, that goesto Valiant
north relic
They haven’t made a single tourney
tawdry hamlet
I mean if you count disappointment in terms of where the old roste would have been pre February
worn falcon
from open division players
willow tartan
Hmm Justice Philly Spark top 3 disappointments I'd say <a:NODDERS:7162803530268...
London bigger disappointment than spark
forest raven
I think the season 1 shanghai dragons would beat the season 4 LA valiant
willow tartan
no
forest raven
I really think they would
worn falcon
freefeeeeeeed
willow tartan
dude season 1 shanghai dragons had such shit management
the only reason the team existed was to launder money
tawdry hamlet
Idk 0-40 when the game was a fraction of how skilled it is now is probably worse than a team taking maps off fusion and winning a point against Shanghai kek
forest raven
The only reason the season 4 LA Valiant existed was because IGC was contractually obligated to be there
tropic herald
I think some of you guys didn’t watch 2019 Chinese Contenders
worn falcon
S1 Dallas 
tropic herald
If you think S1 Shanghai beats S4 Valiant
worn falcon
Team EnvyUS
forest raven
If you think S1 Shanghai beats S4 Valiant
I truly believe it
willow tartan
s1 dragons was a bunch of ladder players
tropic herald
Draw, most of these players were good a few years ago in Contenders
forest raven
Season 4 LA Valiant is a bunch of people that hadn't played the game in 2 years and off roling
tawdry hamlet
Diya is the only og dragon I'd trust on a team today
willow tartan
fearless
tropic herald
Like better than Shanghai and maybe even some iterations of Chengdu
forest raven
No shot
north relic
Diya is the only og dragon I'd trust on a team today <a:NODDERS:7162803530268672...
Didn’t diya decline a valiant offer
What did diya play again
willow tartan
is diya LFT?
willow tartan
Idk I don't keep up with Weibo posts and stuff
He's LFT for OWL
for sure next season right?
forest raven
north relic
What teams could get him
tawdry hamlet
I would hope so although idk why he would be if he hasn't played professionally since gauntlet
willow tartan
yeah why wasnt he picked up this season
tawdry hamlet
If shy wasn't so good so godsb left because no play time maybe he'd have fit there. He really could have fit in gz 
Eileen Diya choisehwan is pretty epic lineup
willow tartan
How many times do OWL teams scrim?
earnest leaf
I refuse to believe the team that only won two maps is better than any team that has been in owl
willow tartan
like once or twice a day then review vods or what is the usual schedule
do we have any insight?
earnest leaf
depends on the teams
My guess is most do two scrimblocks and then vod reviews
3 on a busy day
willow tartan
Do the players play separately to hone mechanics and shit?
I know a lot of CSGO players have like very strict mechanic training regimens.
earnest leaf
ranked
willow tartan
The more I think about it it's like owl teams don't just spend their time grinding overwatch
how do be good? just hire coaching team or something and then you get better
there must be some honing
raw ermine
don't slander LAV that badly
willow tartan
:)
noble nexus
:)
willow tartan
krystal best player on valiant
willow tartan
He has fuck you money
earnest leaf
Committing fraud solely for the reason to go home and smash your gf
willow tartan
tawdry hamlet
What's even more annoying is he's unironically skilled enough to be on valiant lmao
He's easily better than a couple players in owl rn
willow tartan
if i had a girlfriend i would totally commit fraud to smash her but only if i was also a multimillionaire like krystal
shadow dagger
if i had a girlfriend i would totally commit fraud to smash her but only if i wa...
LOL
willow tartan
I think it was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount
probs not the 1.2 million hz tried to sue him for
balmy wolf
u think val gonna be keeping anyone or just blow the team up
digital cloud
probably gonna be cheap motherfuckers and keep it as is
next mesa
def not that amount if it was settled
digital cloud
I would bet levy's life valiant stays the exact same
next mesa
ayo grike hold up i did not consent ✋
digital cloud
I bet all of levy's possessions too
willow tartan
twenty bucks youre about to lose
digital cloud
where you gonna pay from
tacit skiff
this Dallas Fuel color change isn't actually happening right?
would be cool tho
big fan of the black and white
willow tartan
this Dallas Fuel color change isn't actually happening right?
new dallas skin?
silver cradle
Anywhere I could find a contenders schedule that isn't split into regions? I just want to know when the next match is ... but the schedule page on the website is so cumbersome.
main whale
@silver cradle https://youtu.be/gsq2ycNgYEY
silver cradle
<@184450952953069568> https://youtu.be/gsq2ycNgYEY
Ty! I found out I can set up the YouTube app to give me notifications when a live stream is about to happen.
Good timing 🙂
main whale
Yw
sacred trellis
i feel like blizzard abandoned overwatch
wintry kraken
btw is AVRL trying to cast everything ? 😄
i mean he casts Australian & Korean contenders; also casts in OWL
vagrant cargo
Sangu8nar is having a pretty good game so far
gusty rampart
I'd watch Korean Contenders but it's at 5 am for me
sullen berry
I mean it was fairly short, just 150 minutes
Most movies would love to go for longer
sullen berry
i mean he casts Australian & Korean contenders; also casts in OWL
I mean he's been on Australian Contenders from the beginning as an analyst, and the 3rd generation of KR casters (Jaws + Legday) was absolutely shit from a production standpoint, with no experience at the time with Korea playing remotely instead of LAN
AVRL and Pixie were a formidable duo back when Contenders Pacific was around and we're doing it for a couple years
wintry kraken
I mean he's been on Australian Contenders from the beginning as an analyst, and ...
yeah, but i mean, i didn't expect to see him today. He is like everywhere 😄
sullen berry
You'll be pleased to know if AVRL were to be without Overwatch, he's already dipped his toes into Valorant casting for NA, because they don't have an OCE Region
willow tartan
yeah i was hella confused hearing avrl in a valo stream once
sacred trellis
i wonder why no coaches use psych analysis to train their champs
like 99% of players will hard focus certain counters teams can use that to their advantage
tropic herald
sacred trellis
it's easy to line up a bait with bastion
north relic
https://twitter.com/hangzhou_spark/status/1430180449050152964?s=21
what happened
really bad time to switch flex supports as well
noble nexus
dw they were gonna bench him for coldest anyways
north relic
yea but what did mcd do
tropic herald
He swore at a Chinese player on ladder in a derogatory way :/
tropic herald
It is
balmy wolf
good
north relic
wow
digital cloud
what even is the problem there, it isn't like other players haven't been a bit toxic
north relic
didnt viol2t say worse things and get suspended for like two games
balmy wolf
its china
north relic
yea ik
tropic herald
Dude
He was being racist to the country the other he works for us
That’s like
Get fired 101
balmy wolf
racist??
tropic herald
Yes
balmy wolf
bruh
tropic herald
He was using Chinese in a discriminatory way…
Are you going to argue against that?
balmy wolf
thats not racist
willow tartan
Also, Eastern countries are much much more serious when it comes to punishments for gaming.
tropic herald
Please don’t die on this hill
willow tartan
Remember the outrage around Sado?
People were calling for him to be permanently barred from competitive play.
digital cloud
no, I don't remember about sado
plush grail
but cutting his contract
it's a chinese org man
plush grail
u can't just insult the nationality of the people who pay your contract
balmy wolf
kinda
noble nexus
he's a fucking idiot for saying that shit
digital cloud
I suppose that this must be a cultural/translation thing, because all that looks to me is like shit talk/mild toxicity
balmy wolf
yeah
digital cloud
not saying I would say it personally but I have seen much "worse"
plush grail
i'm pretty sure super said this once that u can shittalk players all u want as long as u don't bring up stuff like religion, sexuality and nationality
balmy wolf
not saying I would say it personally but I have seen much "worse"
thats not an argument
willow tartan
I suppose that this must be a cultural/translation thing, because all that looks...
I think a good translation to NA would be like calling an african american the N word.
noble nexus
yeah bringing up race, religion, sex or nationality is a no no
balmy wolf
I think a good translation to NA would be like calling an african american the N...
bro what
willow tartan
Looking at the stuff, it seems to be utilising derogatory language/slurs for Chinese.
balmy wolf
idk maybe its just culture
noble nexus
either way it's deserved and now we get to see more coldest
balmy wolf
in europe thats normal
tropic herald
i'm pretty sure super said this once that u can shittalk players all u want as l...
This is basically just a life skill
balmy wolf
not even harmful
willow tartan
Doesnt Europe have more tight hatespeech laws than NA?
You can get arrested for talking shit on social media.
plush grail
This is basically just a life skill
yeah tbh the moment u mention someone's religion or somethin in a argument u have lost and should just stfu
tropic herald
EU != Asia so don’t try to apply your thoughts
balmy wolf
EU != Asia so don’t try to apply your thoughts
ye obv
like i said its a cultural thing
willow tartan
Police arresting people and throwing them in jail for what ppl say online
digital cloud
like Count Dankula
willow tartan
Europe's kinda fucked.
digital cloud
dumb name but
I think that might mostly just be Britain?
I know Germany has stuff about Nazis but I haven't heard about anything else
noble nexus
yeah Britain has big boi hate speech laws I think
willow tartan
So does Spain I believe.
plush grail
swearing =/= hate speech
digital cloud
considering the shit talk I have heard from EU on many games, I have to wonder how the rules are applied exactly
willow tartan
The rules are arbitrary.
If someone doesn't like you they can report you to the police and get you arrested for hate speech if a court can believe that it caused you enough distress
worn falcon
mcd to seoul then
noble nexus
creative better than mcd
digital cloud
is mcd even worth being picked up by seoul?
balmy wolf
considering the shit talk I have heard from EU on many games, I have to wonder h...
literally nobody cares about that
digital cloud
I don't care, but some people get arrested for saying shit online
tepid ibex
kariv
digital cloud
I don't know exactly where you have to be to get in trouble
worn falcon
apac is stacked in support then
balmy wolf
its a xenophobic comment
understandable but for me personally racist is something way worse
willow tartan
how is racism worse than xenophobia
worn falcon
That leaves Valiant, Vancouver, Boston.
vagrant cargo
Its kinda like wjen i say fuck france
tepid ibex
xenophobia and racism are on the same level
balmy wolf
how is racism worse than xenophobia
not what i meant
tepid ibex
xenophobia is just the hatred of a specific nationality
balmy wolf
Its kinda like wjen i say fuck france
êxactly
vagrant cargo
It would be a lot different when a white Person would have said it
Its still incredibly dumb from him to say xenophobic shit against Chinese ppl
willow tartan
at least we get to see more coldest now
digital cloud
is coldest better?
plush grail
nobody cares about apac
willow tartan
i think stats wise mcd is better on zen
digital cloud
there are a bunch of Shangai fans here
worn falcon
*nobody cares about paris
digital cloud
Paris bad
noble nexus
I care about paris :)
plush grail
*nobody cares about paris
who are you???
worn falcon
me
sacred trellis
seriously its so easy to anticipate what players will do in OW
willow tartan
Hangzhou won't get past play-ins anyway.
vagrant cargo
Anyways
balmy wolf
its just such an usual statement in europe so we prob dont understand what chinese feel
vagrant cargo
Yall ready for glads Shanghai finals?
worn falcon
MCD to Dallas so you can have Dallas Mystic?
willow tartan
im ready for shanghai to win
willow tartan
MCD to Dallas so you can have Dallas Mystic?
fielder > mcd
worn falcon
Im ready for more Chengdu copium
balmy wolf
shanghai sux
plush grail
kaan > rapel > fielder > mcd
balmy wolf
paris wins owl
tepid ibex
shanghai sux
said the atlanta fan 
plush grail
2 blocked message
balmy wolf
said the atlanta fan <:4Gitte:592206726317735955>
wheres the insult?
tepid ibex
wheres the insult?
which teams doing better
digital cloud
outlaws win hopium
balmy wolf
which teams doing better
my team made countdown cup so urs suck
tepid ibex
when atlanta win something then say shanghai suck
balmy wolf
cant even beat nyxl
willow tartan
my team made countdown cup so urs suck
and got swept by an apac team again again
plush grail
atlanta be like bm london
willow tartan
just like the last two times
balmy wolf
pathetic
plush grail
BECAUSE U CANT BM A DECENT TEAM
ATLANTA HAS SOME OF THE MOST BORING
AND UNINTERESTING PLAYERS
HOW CAN U EVEN LIKE THEM
WHO THE FUCK IS GATOR? WHAT'S A HAWK?
balmy wolf
atlanta is literally the only team with personality
willow tartan
what personality
digital cloud
Houston is wholesome
worn falcon
GATOR IS A CHAD
plush grail
AH YEAH I LOVE GATOR HAWK AND PELICAN AND I DONT EVEN REMEMBER THE REST
MASAA RIGHT?
worn falcon
MASAA GOOD LUCIO
digital cloud
Gator just feeds, gator don't care, gator don't give a shit
willow tartan
gator hawk masaa pelican edison kai masaa and the other one
wait who was they
uhhh
digital cloud
iris
noble nexus
how tf can you act like atlanta has personality
worn falcon
Erster
willow tartan
iris
worn falcon
sadge
willow tartan
erster retired
plush grail
oh yeah they have the overrated AS fuck KAI
digital cloud
kai looks so dead inside
worn falcon
KSP retired?
willow tartan
Chengdu Hunters are the best team
noble nexus
Kai is a fucking robot
digital cloud
ksp on houston
balmy wolf
AH YEAH I LOVE GATOR HAWK AND PELICAN AND I DONT EVEN REMEMBER THE REST
idk bro ur team sits in front of the pc while looking like they are forced to suffer
plush grail
kai looks so dead inside
i'd also be dead inside if i was on atlanta
plush grail
idk bro ur team sits in front of the pc while looking like they are forced to su...
RATIO
balmy wolf
how tf can you act like atlanta has personality
well u dont watch anything about tzhem so u clearly dont know
noble nexus
that's why KSP changed his name to Kai
noble nexus
well u dont watch anything about tzhem so u clearly dont know
what gives them personality
noble nexus
they're all literally playing overwatch stonefaced for a living
worn falcon
lol
plush grail
my favorite player is gator because i saw him in a super vid once
noble nexus
not a single one of them has emotions
willow tartan
hadi has more personality than all of atlanta
digital cloud
oh yeah ksp was kai, not ksf
noble nexus
^
balmy wolf
what gives them personality
chadness
willow tartan
chengdu chads > atlanta virgins
plush grail
@balmy wolf true chads
balmy wolf
we dont need stage titles
worn falcon
where is the vote counter?
willow tartan
there is none
plush grail
noble nexus
Atlanta accomplishments? 
noble nexus
you can't even spell Hawaii right
worn falcon
blind peoiple, imagine not voting for Hanbin
willow tartan
how does shu have more votes than izayaki
plush grail
don't edit it
balmy wolf
you can't even spell Hawaii right
bro im having 3 arguments at the same time i have to spell fast as fuck
noble nexus
maybe stop being braindead so you don't get into 3 arguments at once
noble nexus
:)))
balmy wolf
maybe stop being braindead so you don't get into 3 arguments at once
ur braindead atleast u have space
worn falcon
Space have big brain
balmy wolf
so ur team is not full of energyless bots
plush grail
@noble nexus glads might have won the tournament but ur still british 
balmy wolf
lifetime curse
worn falcon
the only energyless bot king was Hydration
noble nexus
which is why I'm not an atlanta fan
worn falcon
my man was a void of emotions
balmy wolf
isn't EQO also emotionless
when daan is ur most entertaining player u have a problem
worn falcon
even in the early seasons when he was interviewed by Soe lol
willow tartan
Emotion Quotient: Zero
plush grail
when daan is ur most entertaining player u have a problem
hawaeii
noble nexus
hawaeii
balmy wolf
thats how u spell hawaii for intersting people
continue supporting boring players
ur choice
plush grail
intersting
balmy wolf
id rather get shit on by sm than having no fun at all
willow tartan
i dont know what youre getting at ngl
balmy wolf
talking about london bm
balmy wolf
literally had a topic for a whole week
noble nexus
you bm'd a winless team and then did nothing for the rest of the season
balmy wolf
we need more of that
willow tartan
you bm'd a winless team and then did nothing for the rest of the season
the hunters shouldve done that after they swept them
balmy wolf
not the yeah the we have to fucus on our mistakes kinda shit
willow tartan
they were too busy being gamers
noble nexus
fucus
plush grail
yeah atlanta is was being better bm london when the bad team
willow tartan
man i cant read
worn falcon
"not coming home"
balmy wolf
how does interview have to do with bm
gives u personality
balmy wolf
yeah
willow tartan
bm is like you solo ult their baby dva
balmy wolf
thats bm with words u denthead
worn falcon
bad manners
plush grail
marbel shut up before i come bm you irl
balmy wolf
marbel shut up before i come bm you irl
come here baby
willow tartan
tbag irl
worn falcon
bigole mothers
plush grail
hammer down irl
willow tartan
so guys
plush grail
no
willow tartan
out of the three tournaments made atlanta got swept all three times by apac teams
very nice.
plush grail
atlanta cycle is just
balmy wolf
out of the three tournaments made atlanta got swept all three times by apac team...
something like that
plush grail
play well > make the tournament > go to hawaii > lose every match badly > bitch about getting no points > repeat
balmy wolf
thats bad trash talk
willow tartan
but at least theyre better than shock
balmy wolf
but we need more of that
balmy wolf
play well > make the tournament > go to hawaii > lose every match badly > bitch ...
well ur talented at this shit
next mesa
MCD got kicked from spark?
balmy wolf
play well > make the tournament > go to hawaii > lose every match badly > bitch ...
so id actually would want to watch u
willow tartan
naughty boy
next mesa
what kind tf
balmy wolf
ur interesting luigi
willow tartan
xenophobic ones
plush grail
so id actually would want to watch u
what the fuck even is that sentence
willow tartan
he would want to watch you play in OWL tournaments
balmy wolf
what the fuck even is that sentence
if u were a pro idiot
balmy wolf
idc about tf2 tho
plush grail
no its ignore luigi
willow tartan
do you think mcd will be able to salvage his career
maybe he escapes china and korea and gets signed to a western roster
balmy wolf
anyways i wanna have more drama
willow tartan
like an org like vancouver who doesnt give a shit
balmy wolf
but not the cringe staged insult hype videos
sacred trellis
lol like 20 games in a row won simply by utilizing the predictability of players
willow tartan
you want like the CDL trashtalking?
balmy wolf
you want like the CDL trashtalking?
well yeah
balmy wolf
even the birdring ez gave me chills
balmy wolf
atlanta won the championship
yeah i was happy
next mesa
do you think mcd will be able to salvage his career
maybe next season
sacred trellis
i think coaches in OWL need to be fired in favor of a new meta for coaching
willow tartan
yeah i was happy
dude toronto played garbage
plush grail
even the birdring ez gave me chills
bro he said ''ez'' how did that give u chills
next mesa
ok just say you have no brain
plush grail
marbel just horny for bm
balmy wolf
marbel just horny for bm
and u
balmy wolf
dude toronto played garbage
cammy was nuts
willow tartan
cammy was nuts
didnt he deadlift?
balmy wolf
idk
willow tartan
like some of the matches he definitely deadlifted
balmy wolf
he was winning them games singlehandedly
willow tartan
lemme see if i can pull up the stats
next mesa
there's a rumor that mika is benched because mcd wont play with a non korean support?
so he's racist tf
plush grail
yall dont like atlanta
we just dont like u
willow tartan
its not that i dont like atlanta i just want to bully the team you support
balmy wolf
we just dont like u
well ur dms say something different
willow tartan
its what friends are for
balmy wolf
levy talking with himself lol
willow tartan
vs seoul and fusion
next mesa
sadge
willow tartan
LIP snorlax
plush grail
dont fire me paris
willow tartan
thats it, its over
balmy wolf
british people are an exception
willow tartan
youre never gonna be signed as paris's new flex support
worldly flax
https://twitter.com/hangzhou_spark/status/1430180449050152964?s=21 oof y'all saw this already? 
willow tartan
yeppers
worldly flax
oh my bad
balmy wolf
https://twitter.com/hangzhou_spark/status/1430180449050152964?s=21 oof y'all saw...
its literally in esports announcements?
willow tartan
mcd will go to valorant now
plush grail
balmy wolf
oh no my esports career
ill support ur stream interesting chad
hot onyx
ended by sans
Shouldn’t have been violently racist
plush grail
ill support ur stream interesting chad
i'll stream soon
balmy wolf
i'll stream soon
bro thats big news
plush grail
Shouldn’t have been violently racist
im sorry please do not cancel me
balmy wolf
Marbel openly supporting a bri ish phobe
dw im already cancelled
hot onyx
Forgetting they had a bri ish player on their team
balmy wolf
cant be worse
plush grail
sorry im gonna leave this chat now i need a bo ol of wo oer
balmy wolf
good one
willow tartan
water bowl
hot onyx
Sorry I’m gonna leave the European Union so that I’m not in the same continent as Luigi
digital cloud
conitnents cannot be like that
balmy wolf
????
plush grail
@willow tartan please brexit this chat
hot onyx
They walked out of the door
willow tartan
Did you not know that Britannia rules the waves?
They used the Royal Navy fleet to push Great Britian away from Europe.
plush grail
blocked
hot onyx
Britain is now its own continent so that when another war happens England can colonise Europe and own 2 continents
digital cloud
Just repeatedly colonize itself and it can own infinite continents
balmy wolf
britain cant even colonize itself
sacred trellis
Can we not talk politics in here?
balmy wolf
esports = politics
plush grail
we're talking about the london spitfire
sacred trellis
FFS CAN'T I EAT MY LUICIO'S BREAKFAST IN PEACE? lol
willow tartan
if LIP doesnt get mvp I am going to send a strongly written letter of complaint to Jon Spector.
plush grail
''dear john. fuck off'' -memeicus
north relic
plat chat with the manscaped sponsor
balmy wolf
valiant cause they are getting fucked
willow tartan
They could sponsor the Washington Justice since they keep getting fucked.
balmy wolf
true
sacred trellis
😄
hot onyx
Sponsor Fusion since they’ve been getting fucked for 4 years in a row
digital cloud
empathy about to descend on us like a vengeful chinese fanbase
sacred trellis
mind over matter 
sacred trellis
^
digital cloud
pnorbuh
willow tartan
what the fuck does mind over matter even mean
plush grail
empathy im not a part of this please do not ban me
willow tartan
its just random bullshit right?
willow tartan
reality can be whatever i want
digital cloud
who?
balmy wolf
lol
hot onyx
Damn somebody is too busy having sex to watch porn, what a loser
balmy wolf
yeah
hot onyx
Dirty little Atlanta fan
hot onyx
“Stage titles don’t matter” moment
willow tartan
mcd pulling an xqc
hot onyx
I know, there goes my ROTY vote
hot onyx
Now I have to give it to someone like Na1st
hot onyx
Lip would’ve deserved it if Alarm wasn’t a candidate
raw ermine
what about ANS?
willow tartan
just?
hot onyx
Really good yes
vagrant cargo
In no way lip deserved it over alarm LOL
willow tartan
LIP is a top tier tracer player and thats not even his role
vagrant cargo
Yes this season
Last season He wasnt
He had plenty of moments where he just did air
hot onyx
But Alarm made Fusion into the top tier team that they were last season
raw ermine
this season philly shit the bed
willow tartan
oh no definitely alarm deserved it just as much last year
but like
can we give two rotys
vagrant cargo
He was in no way even close to alarm
hot onyx
If Shanghai replaced Lip with a decent hs like BQB they’d still be as good
willow tartan
Heads and shoulders above LIP, Ans, LeeJaeGon, Xzi?
willow tartan
If Shanghai replaced Lip with a decent hs like BQB they’d still be as good
I don't fucking understand this stupid shit.
vagrant cargo
Xzi was injured sadly
willow tartan
Dude, my friend was saying like "pelican should be mvp because he carries atlanta the hardest" which is SO dumb
MVP should be who is the best player not who brings the most value
vagrant cargo
True obvious MVP is leave
willow tartan
or else mvp will be a mediocre player on a bad team
so saying alarm hard carried fusion and that shanghai would be fine without LIP is kinda dumb
cause its about overall skill not relative to their team
hot onyx
BQB Fleta Void Fearless FeedJaeGon and Izayaki is a good team
Shanghai would’ve done better last year without Lip than Fusion would’ve without Alarm
willow tartan
that should not be a metric
that just means shanghai has a more well rounded roster
If you measure MVP by how hard they carry their team then MVP should be profit
man has got POTM 50% of the time seoul has won
next mesa
chengdu has a way better team but you could maybe argue that it is a one man job of just leave
vagrant cargo
of profit and fits
Of toyou fits and sometimrs profit and creative
willow tartan
Most Valuable Player
Not on any given team
vagrant cargo
Profit on mei 😹😹😹😹
willow tartan
Most Valuable Player of the REGULAR SEASON
next mesa
Profit on mei is a coaching difference
vagrant cargo
Profit on mei just isnt good
willow tartan
Which player is the best
vagrant cargo
Which player on any given team objectively provides the most value
Leave da goat
next mesa
why did they think that mei is the secret to pharah comp i have no idea
vagrant cargo
Anyways
hot onyx
why did they think that mei is the secret to pharah comp i have no idea
Right click snipes ez game
next mesa
his mei mechanics are good
vagrant cargo
Birdring only 2018 finals player from London who has won somehing
next mesa
sadge
vagrant cargo
his mei mechanics are good
Mechanics dont matter that much on mei
next mesa
its ok profit about to win this year's finals
willow tartan
Leave da goat
Leave is great and all but consider this; LIP is a 8'9 gaming warlord.
vagrant cargo
Kevsters mechanics on mei are absurd
But id still wouldnt rank him top tier on her yet
next mesa
yeah im just saying that it was just a compositional coaching difference
imagine getting coach diffed by dpei
i dont know why changoon still has a job
he just got lucky last year's meta
vagrant cargo
Eh Profits gamesense on mei isnt that good either tbh
vagrant cargo
Anyways
next mesa
gesture: ok
vagrant cargo
Do it or i have to intervene.
willow tartan
"hold on what if"
"alright so what if we put our main tank on off tank and our other main tank also on off tank"
next mesa
Fits seoul
hold on what if we run double bubble into peak double shield
wait what we get melted everytime wtf how
vagrant cargo
LiP Birdring Fits are w out a doubt the 3 best hitscans rn
willow tartan
LIP is far above everyone else right now
vagrant cargo
Nah
willow tartan
he's just too good
vagrant cargo
Birdring and fits are in the Same tier fosho
willow tartan
you mean over all though right?
on every single hitscan hero
or do you mean just like on ashe or something
next mesa
Birdring better hanzo
willow tartan
LIP, Fits, Shy, Kai, Birdring.
hot onyx
Fits on a good day >
next mesa
fits better everythinge lse 😎 😎
willow tartan
Those are the top 5
hot onyx
Fits on a bad day <
vagrant cargo
Flora>Kai
vagrant cargo
fits better everythinge lse 😎 😎
Nah birdring beats fits on ashe and widow tbh
And cree maybe
next mesa
wrong ✋
vagrant cargo
I also wanna mention how well his sombra did in finals
willow tartan
Kai did air entirety of cc playoffs
Just like Atlanta.
vagrant cargo
Vs Chengdu and glads He was a nonfactor
willow tartan
0-6
vagrant cargo
While Flora has been putting up unreal numbers on NYXL who are mediocre
vagrant cargo
Profit Ashe > Birdring ashe
Nice bait
next mesa
just truth
willow tartan
we dont really know all too much since we havent had a hard hitscan meta
hot onyx
SparkR > Birdring
vagrant cargo
Birdring ashe and MuZe orisa were the Main reason glads were so good in june joust 😭😭
willow tartan
maybe we will get one in playoffs so we can really see who is the best widowmaker in the world
next mesa
I miss hitscan meta bro cmon
vagrant cargo
Anyways
willow tartan
And of course, our annual and most prestigious all-stars event the Widowmaker 1v1
willow tartan
Unfortunately, unless Diem gets resigned to the Dragons last second, it doesn't seem like he will be returning to defend his title and go for the 3-peat.
hot onyx
And of course, our annual and most prestigious all-stars event the Widowmaker 1v...
Where Diem will be absent
willow tartan
It would be funny though. Diem gets signed on a 7 day contract just to play the Widowmaker 1v1 allstars tournament.
vagrant cargo
Cope shitta
hot onyx
It would be even funnier if he got signed to play in a match and played poorly again to cost them the play offs
vagrant cargo
Hasnt won anything since S1 😭😭😭😭😭
willow tartan
Where Diem will be absent
With Diem out of the picture, it's up to LIP to bring the 3-peat home to the Dragons.
Hell, maybe both Develop and LIP plays.
next mesa
but lip lost
didnt the window 1v1 already happen
or that was just like another thing
willow tartan
No.
hot onyx
With Diem out of the picture, it's up to LIP to bring the 3-peat home to the Dra...
Diem gets domed by Linkzr
willow tartan
That was just a preshow thing for hawaii
The real All-Stars Widowmaker 1v1 hasn't happened yet.
next mesa
is this copium
willow tartan
no