Shock fans admitting their team is fragile when that's every single team as of 2021
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sullen berry
simple sparrow
LMAOOOOOO
sullen berry
earnest leaf
Got all my pickems right though for once 
willow tartan
True imagine whiffing a grav
abstract nova
Space intentionally threw to bring up the mental
mossy viper
Watching Eternal get stomped crushes my soul
agile lake
Literally Space just said their team was tilted lol
kind ridge
Watching Eternal get stomped crushes my soul
not stomped
sullen berry
Imagine space outperforming Choi on Dva
kind ridge
but was close
simple sparrow
No Leave? No win
worthy void
shu robbed
simple sparrow
LETS GOO. WINNABLE 
night lotus
abstract nova
No one got stomped today
keen abyss
leave mysteriously is discovered to be on leave
night lotus
honestly.
balmy wolf
i can rest easy tonight knowing that dpei did not CHOKE
agile lake
Nah Shuu died too many times
worthy void
stop giving it to DPS
^
weary widget
No one got stomped today
Fuel 3-0 
sullen berry
i can rest easy tonight knowing that dpei did not CHOKE
This is the real storyline of the day
agile lake
Birdring did the same amount of picks but without dying as much like Shuu did
keen abyss
space... the one attractive dva main..
mossy viper
Eternal vs Defiant had my heart pounding
simple sparrow
Fuel 3-0 <:trollface:785137556777992222>
Fuels good man
sullen berry
Dpei did his homework and pulled out the right start coming into SF Shock
abstract nova
Fuel 3-0 <:trollface:785137556777992222>
I guess, but that game still didn't feel like a stomp
wicked pendant
space... the one attractive dva main..
How dare you say that when FRDWNR exists
tawdry hamlet
sullen berry
Honestly shock can at least enjoy those sweet Ws on glads in the regular season
stoic granite
ggs glads fans but I'm still mad
simple sparrow
How dare you say that when FRDWNR exists
Choi
keen abyss
Honestly shock can at least enjoy those sweet Ws on glads in the regular season
which ones
weary widget
are there any more matches?
nope, that was last match
night lotus
o
sullen berry
Really set up the right storyline to put glads Doan a few notches
simple sparrow
Scriptwriting diff
sullen berry
which ones
Week 1 Glads vs Shock, when kevster was playing on ping
mortal cipher
yet glads have beat them more than shock have beat them
wild cape
YO
barren kayak
Oh my god I just saw the ATL game
mortal cipher
yeah
mortal cipher
yeah
agile lake
Dont be mad follow Shock Fans, we still have Playoffs to, we're Main Eventers, we can still get the Cup, dont blame anyone and focus on the future ❤️
kind ridge
Oh my god I just saw the ATL game
cheese
keen abyss
they're probably the 2 closest teams in skill
abstract nova
game was so damn close
sullen berry
Atlanta have enough time to sharpen up even more with Edison and Kai
mossy viper
I reckon Dynasty is gonna win tbh
sullen berry
I'm assuming Pelican can travel
barren kayak
I know, he’ll be back
wild cape
Bro you shouldve been here when it happened. Chat too lit
unfortunately I was at a party
and tbh im still upset about the outlaws
weary widget
I'm assuming Pelican can travel
he should be, they said hed be fine by next week
barren kayak
I want him to be MVP
humble yarrow
What happened to him?
keen abyss
been a gladiators fan since day one and this may be my favorite glads team
agile lake
" Play from Shuu on Havana " -> Shock just falling as a defense lol
barren kayak
Punctured lung
weary widget
What happened to him?
Lung collapse, hospital, hes good now and coming back
barren quest
Not really a good idea for Pelican to travel since he just had a collapsed lung
vestal grotto
been a gladiators fan since day one and this may be my favorite glads team
same
simple sparrow
been a gladiators fan since day one and this may be my favorite glads team
Should be. S1 close tho
balmy wolf
too bad glads have the quarter finals playoff curse
keen abyss
biggoose though ❤️
balmy wolf
they never win shit
humble yarrow
Lung collapse, hospital, hes good now and coming back
Oh no. Dud they just run Edison today?
tacit skiff
na was really like "we're gonna give this to Chengdu"
vestal grotto
i will always remember bischu and goose tho
night lotus
i hate shock.
mortal cipher
fr
night lotus
back to the fusions.
barren quest
Oh no. Dud they just run Edison today?
They only ran Kai Edison today
abstract nova
i hate shock.
cringe
night lotus
agile lake
i hate shock.
abstract nova
Shock was awesome today
humble yarrow
They only ran Kai Edison today
Alright. I didn't see the game.
Edison is still good
agile lake
Stop being mad at your team that lost wtf
abstract nova
I don't care that they lost they looked great
agile lake
Support them
keen abyss
shock played amazingly
keen abyss
i was on the edge of my seat
wild cape
because tbh im not gonna be watching this tournament im just waiting for play ins
tawdry hamlet
you got ball gapped by gesture :(((
balmy wolf
play ins is knockouts with a diff name
stoic granite
we got a shock fan that's pissed at shock? hello? we played well today glads just played really good
wild cape
play ins is knockouts with a diff name
ik but how are the matches decided
balmy wolf
bo3 no double elim
wicked pendant
I'm not mad that Shock lost. I'm sad. 
balmy wolf
u lose u out and dont enter the playoff bracket
wild cape
bo3 no double elim
I said how are the matches decided
stoic granite
I think we all are
wild cape
like which teams face eachother
weary widget
Oh no. Dud they just run Edison today?
yeah
agile lake
Just make them travel 
balmy wolf
teams not in top 6 i believe
wild cape
for the love of god
i know which teams are in the play ins
but which teams face eachother
how do they figure that out
forest raven
I'm so fucking sad man
balmy wolf
oh map diff and w/l ratio
balmy wolf
i just told you
mortal cipher
that you haven't answered a single question i asked 😭
i did
mortal cipher
talking about play ins
oh we dont know yet
wild cape
yeah i'd figure that
but like
how do they figure out which teams face eachother?
is it like the NBA where the best faces the worst?
mortal cipher
i guess seeds
wild cape
because if so I really don't wanna see houston vs. boston again 💀
forest raven
I'm just so sad
wild cape
I'm just so sad
why
keen abyss
honestly i'm proud of all teams besides paris and dallas today
forest raven
My team lost
wild cape
which team
keen abyss
i didn't watch the pairs game
forest raven
Shock
wild cape
why be sad
keen abyss
and dallas played like shit
wild cape
your team has a playoff spot
forest raven
No they don't
wild cape
because the outlaws threw
wild cape
No they don't
yeah they do? i thought they did
forest raven
If glads get a point in Hawaii shock is 4th
mortal cipher
ah
forest raven
Well
mortal cipher
well hope they get 3-niled then
wild cape
hoping for a glads win
forest raven
Time to simp for APAC again I guess 
wicked pendant
Believe in the CHENGDU ZONE
balmy wolf
glister on widow wasnt the pick
keen abyss
i want glads to win cc but that's cause i'm a glads fan
wild cape
any chance for shock vs. outlaws is great
abstract nova
I think Glads beat Atlanta without Pelican
balmy wolf
should've stayed on hanzo for havanna the entire time
mortal cipher
my na team is already out so i just root for a na team
wild cape
my na team is already out so i just root for a na team
which team?
keen abyss
they'll probably have pelican though, no?
agile lake
Wait
mortal cipher
which team?
London
agile lake
Shock can be out of the Cup ?
keen abyss
pelican is getting out of the hospital tonight or tomorrow
earnest leaf
Pelican isn't going to hawaii
keen abyss
oh
earnest leaf
He can't fly after having a collapsed lung
abstract nova
Shock can be out of the Cup ?
no, just out of guaranteed playoff
mortal cipher
He can't fly after having a collapsed lung
why would you
agile lake
Ok ok
balmy wolf
alt still looks the best team in na tho
keen abyss
atl almost lost to toronto
simple sparrow
Oh well. Thanks chat, great experience. GN if you gonna sleep now
tawdry hamlet
The Aerospace Medicine Association recommendations currently state that, “Generally, it should be safe to travel by air 2 or 3 weeks after successful drainage of a pneumothorax (or uncomplicated thoracic surgery)”
agile lake
I dont think so
tawdry hamlet
balmy wolf
i have more faith in atl than glads
abstract nova
atl almost lost to toronto
tbf heesu popped off
earnest leaf
But this is kinda why I don't like the knockout system this year
keen abyss
atl barely won against glads with pelican
abstract nova
i have more faith in atl than glads
Even without Pelican?
earnest leaf
One team gets an easy path
balmy wolf
yes
keen abyss
pelican carried against glads
wicked pendant
APAC gonna stomp these NA Teams tbh tbh
earnest leaf
the other has a tough fucking series or two
Glads had to play the winner of two top 5 teams
mortal cipher
apac is just going to win anyway
earnest leaf
atl got to play vs the winner of mid tier teams
wicked pendant
Why was NA such a late adopter of Ball?
tropic herald
Flame are you about to have Shock copium again
tawdry hamlet
atlanta and chengdu both got hella ez paths lmao
balmy wolf
i like the regional playoff thing more
tropic herald
So true
simple sparrow
Why was NA such a late adopter of Ball?
They thought Winston and Orisa were better. First to use Ball was Paris
earnest leaf
Glads get a 10x harder path to hawaii compared to atl is my point
balmy wolf
made the east vs west thing more hype for playoffs
earnest leaf
same for knockouts in general, some teams get it off way easier
simple sparrow
Glads get a 10x harder path to hawaii compared to atl is my point
True
sullen berry
who would be regional champions between atlanta reign and la gladiators?
simple sparrow
Atl beat Glads so its fair
keen abyss
who would be regional champions between atlanta reign and la gladiators?
we're about to find out
devout path
who would be regional champions between atlanta reign and la gladiators?
Depends if pelican or not
tropic herald
I mean what exactly fixes it? They do a double elim tourney for each region but they don’t have a finals?
simple sparrow
who would be regional champions between atlanta reign and la gladiators?
Idk. We lost two map 5s round 3s
tawdry hamlet
the key to this is, don't make the season 16 total games 
balmy wolf
double elim tourney for both regions, 1 team in each region wins and faces in hawaii
sullen berry
we're about to find out
don't confuse it, i mean if we had a West only finals to claim the best western team
earnest leaf
Honestly double elim would be pretty good
tawdry hamlet
I demand more overwatch
tropic herald
I think sending only 1 team to cross would be so boring tbh
agile lake
Tbh
devout path
Honestly double elim would be pretty good
Not enough time
sullen berry
my whole day since 6am to 3pm was all overwatch
agile lake
Choi has wayy too much pressure on him
devout path
Shock copium?
earnest leaf
choi did really well today
sullen berry
and sadly my sf fan of a cohost for my podcast is in too much of a rut to do anything
shadow dagger
Shock copium?
yes
agile lake
He should have a teammate playing the same range of heroes he do to rest
mortal cipher
and sadly my sf fan of a cohost for my podcast is in too much of a rut to do any...
oof
agile lake
Because Choi is just forced to play each match then
balmy wolf
lol
sullen berry
you can't be so emotionally toiled about something you don't have control over
I didn't sign Jihun
devout path
He should have a teammate playing the same range of heroes he do to rest
...you do realize that would make both players overall worse right
sullen berry
I'm not crusty
earnest leaf
also I literally predicted glads to go to hawaii
agile lake
...you do realize that would make both players overall worse right
Say that to Super and Smurf
devout path
Super is a rein specialist
tropic herald
Say that to Super and Smurf
That’s literally happening this season
devout path
They literally don’t play the same characters
tawdry hamlet
I have still yet to see copium, just legitimate comments about Atlanta and chengdu having easier routes. That is all I have seen loll, I had shock losing to Dallas but hopped on the train for lols because dpei is a meme
keen abyss
who has the better orisa and ball
keen abyss
between super and smurf
agile lake
Super
tropic herald
Smurf and Super are not playing as well as they could be
keen abyss
so is smurf a winston specialist
devout path
Smurf and Super are not playing as well as they could be
That is true
tropic herald
Because they play roulette for starting
simple sparrow
I have still yet to see copium, just legitimate comments about Atlanta and cheng...
They left the chat to avoid interaction
devout path
But also they have both explicitly because they cover each other’s weaknesses
agile lake
Well its roulette for the enemies too
tawdry hamlet
well when 50000 people are pinging you saying copium I would leave chat too, but thankfully my team is in apac so only 2 people ping me and say copium
ez claps
agile lake
Do you go with a Smurf counter or a Super counter
Its not easy for the enemies as well
tropic herald
well when 50000 people are pinging you saying copium I would leave chat too, but...
L
nocturne yacht
Donda gonna drop before shock get to Hawaii 😹👎
devout path
Well its roulette for the enemies too
It makes it easier to predict what comps shock are playing actually
tawdry hamlet
maybe I should be a multi team andy so I can tell everyone haha your team lost when im a fan of two of the best teams in the league kek
balmy wolf
shock didnt retain their studded coaching staff from last year
agile lake
You never know when they're switching
vagrant cargo
I was in McDonald’s eating a happy meal when NERO came in and ran with my FOOD! Luckily the security guard that was there was the one and only KEVSTER aka his FATHER, and he tackled NERO and got me and my son’s food back!
balmy wolf
coming into this year they only had 2 fucking coaches
agile lake
There's a strategy advantage in this
balmy wolf
they always had 3 coaches as a working trio
tropic herald
maybe I should be a multi team andy so I can tell everyone haha your team lost w...
Me being a Shanghai and Mayhem fan 
vagrant cargo
Kevster>nero
tawdry hamlet
Draw being a shock seoul fan 
mortal cipher
Me being a Shanghai and Mayhem fan <:WICKED:808063832060461067>
same but with london
simple sparrow
Kevster>nero
Tracer? Yeah. Torb? Nah sadly
devout path
You never know when they're switching
Doesn’t matter when they switch because as soon as they do it gets a lot easier for a team to counter comp
earnest leaf
Kevster definitely the better tracer but idk about the other heroes
nero 100% has the better mei
vagrant cargo
Nah
simple sparrow
nero 100% has the better mei
Debatable
abstract nova
Nero best Torb
agile lake
Doesn’t matter when they switch because as soon as they do it gets a lot easier ...
So much easier they won 2 cups like this
vagrant cargo
Kevsrer mei fucked today
wild cape
hmmm
agile lake
xd
earnest leaf
nah, kevster's mei fucking feeds way too often
vagrant cargo
And He has the best stats out of every mei player
wild cape
i figured out how play in brackets work
earnest leaf
Does no one remember how shit kevster's mei was in the first stage
agile lake
Nero better Mei in my opinion
devout path
So much easier they won 2 cups like this
2 cups that super barely played in
tropic herald
Pelican best Mei 
devout path
xd
vagrant cargo
U said it first stafe
wild cape
if the glads get 3rd place or higher this countdown cup
agile lake
2 cups that super barely played in
Roadhog 
wild cape
i think shock and outlaws are qualifying for playoffs prob
keen abyss
atl gets the easier bracket again 
vagrant cargo
Try playing mei with high ping lol
devout path
Roadhog <a:ModCheck:865286814805786695>
Oh you mean grand finals
earnest leaf
Ping doesn't void you of all mistakes
agile lake
Entire season xd
devout path
The times when they literally did not switch metas
vagrant cargo
Mei gets fuckef hard by ping
balmy wolf
playing mei on high pink isnt an excuse lol
simple sparrow
Tigers, Eagles, Lions and Pandas. Great tourney
wild cape
aren't they phoenixes?
devout path
This is like the first season where metas are map dependent
simple sparrow
aren't they phoenixes?
Shhhhhhhhhhh
agile lake
Why are you talking about Ping dont you guys remember Paris's Season 2 ? lol
keen abyss
the trojan phoenix
simple sparrow
Shhhhhhhhhhh
Just call em birds
vagrant cargo
And it was the first stage were glads in General kinda sucked
wild cape
preeeeetty sure it's a phoenix
tawdry hamlet
Kevster and Nero both had bad performances on mei this season, Nero blocked hella shatters and Kevster played bad first stage so who knows who is actually better
keen abyss
right
vagrant cargo
Kevster and Nero both had bad performances on mei this season, Nero blocked hell...
Based
earnest leaf
Nero overall is better
devout path
Kevster and Nero both had bad performances on mei this season, Nero blocked hell...
Nero hates super lol
earnest leaf
on mei
earnest leaf
Also nero is the better echo
agile lake
Nero hates super lol
wild cape
man i am so excited for echo and sigma to be unbanned
vagrant cargo
Nero is in no World the better echo
mortal cipher
hmm
vagrant cargo
He had so many mid performances
earnest leaf
found the eu resident
devout path
<a:what:865286815002656768>
Haven’t you seen the clips of Nero blocking supers shatters
agile lake
nero best echo lmao no
abstract nova
Nero is the better Torb
mortal cipher
Also nero is the better echo
to who
earnest leaf
that thinks kevster isn't comparable to anyone because he's so good on everything 
agile lake
Haven’t you seen the clips of Nero blocking supers shatters
Every Rein life
vagrant cargo
that thinks kevster isn't comparable to anyone because he's so good on everythin...
He is
Leave
tawdry hamlet
that thinks kevster isn't comparable to anyone because he's so good on everythin...
apac simps with profit kek
vagrant cargo
Fleta
devout path
Pelican > kevster
wild cape
dalton > pelican tbh
earnest leaf
Legit anytime I say anything remotely bad about kevster I get hardcore copium thrown my way no matter what
devout path
dalton > pelican tbh
Lmao
abstract nova
Dalton best tracer
vagrant cargo
Because there is nothing bad abt kevster except that hes Not leave or pelican
tawdry hamlet
ok pelican has played like 5 heroes this year which ones besides echo and mei is he good at unironically asking
vagrant cargo
😪😪
earnest leaf
Ok yea you're 100% from eu 
vagrant cargo
ok pelican has played like 5 heroes this year which ones besides echo and mei is...
Pharah genji tracer
Hanzo
wild cape
what if dalton really is the best tracer in the league and he's just hiding his true power
tawdry hamlet
edison plays tracer right?
agile lake
Experience objectivity
devout path
I think pelican overtook Edison’s spot
wild cape
ok pelican has played like 5 heroes this year which ones besides echo and mei is...
didn't he play doomfist and kick ass
or am i thinking of someone else
devout path
didn't he play doomfist and kick ass
That’s sparkle
vagrant cargo
Pelican doom also pounds
wild cape
edison played doom
ah thanks
ivory stag
shock would have won if they played tay1o just saying
earnest leaf
In total i'd take Nero over kevster on probably mei/echo/pharah/torb
wild cape
i knew someone on atlanta was cracked at doom
tawdry hamlet
Nero pool is weird, he has like hanzo pharah echo sombra tracer torb
earnest leaf
Kevster for stuff like genji/tracer/and pocket hitscan picks
devout path
I think kevster pharah is better
vagrant cargo
Agreed
devout path
But other than that I agree
earnest leaf
pharah is pretty close but I think nero just edges him out there
vagrant cargo
But u can make a case for nero pharah
worn falcon
I remember when everyone was hyping so hard Kevster, like "he gonna stomp OWL in any team"
tawdry hamlet
Nero actually wins rounds he plays pharah which is where he edges him out 
abstract nova
Kevster is op
agile lake
Nero on Echo wth
worn falcon
Nero has improved gotta admit, he was B tier for me
devout path
Nero was very mediocre before
abstract nova
when before?
wicked pendant
Who are S-tiers?
devout path
Who are S-tiers?
On what
vagrant cargo
Pelican Leave Kevster Fleta
worn falcon
when before?
Charge
vagrant cargo
And sp9rk1e
tawdry hamlet
Speaking of mediocre, remember when the second best team in the world imploded and then all the players besides twilight sucked 😦
vagrant cargo
That was beautiful
devout path
Speaking of mediocre, remember when the second best team in the world imploded a...
Slime?
balmy wolf
old titans was good on everything besides long range hitscan
devout path
I mean
vagrant cargo
Old Titans also kinda shit wjth pharah comps
devout path
If a team can get all of them together again
worn falcon
Speaking of mediocre, remember when the second best team in the world imploded a...
Bless the org 
devout path
Gg
vagrant cargo
Haksal pharah beyond mid
tawdry hamlet
old titans shit outside of goats
balmy wolf
too bad old titans never stayed together after their owl debut
worn falcon
Same Valiant main org
devout path
Their synergy was second to none
vagrant cargo
Anyways
worn falcon
Hope Valiant get bought by a Korean org
balmy wolf
they were still better than every team besides shock after goats
tawdry hamlet
which is surprising they were so willing to drop in 2-2-2 and ruin titans chances of ever winning kek
vagrant cargo
Can we all agree
forest raven
All I want now is for APAC to put NA in the dirt
vagrant cargo
Leave best dps
wicked pendant
All I want now is for APAC to put NA in the dirt
They will, they will.
devout path
Leave best dps
No
worn falcon
Leave best dps
No that's Carpe
vagrant cargo
All I want now is for APAC to put NA in the dirt
Cope harder shocktard
wicked pendant
Well, Chengdu is a coinflip
forest raven
Glads fans ig
tawdry hamlet
when your team is eliminated what else are you supposed to do besides root for the team against the eliminator
that isn't cope
that just rootin
keen abyss
Cope harder shocktard
tbf it's the only way shock gets to playoffs
vagrant cargo
Glads best team World 🥱🥱🥱
keen abyss
when your team is eliminated what else are you supposed to do besides root for t...
root for the eliminator
vagrant cargo
Chengdu just a fraud team
agile lake
I freakin hope S4 will be One single region only
keen abyss
if you're gonna beat my team at least win it all
worn falcon
Well, Chengdu is a coinflip
You meam Philly and NYXL
agile lake
I hate that 2 regions format
devout path
Glads needs to make grand finals for shock to be forced to play playins
abstract nova
Paris wins the grand finals
tawdry hamlet
I like how the top 2 teams literally had to take a month off just so other teams could have a chance 
worn falcon
vagrant cargo
Tbh
devout path
I like how the top 2 teams literally had to take a month off just so other teams...
They’re literally just better than everyone
forest raven
I've cheered for APAC every tournament because my favourite teams outside of shock are APAC 
vagrant cargo
I tvink dallas wouldnt have made it far either way this meta
Fearless on orisa or ball 😭😭😭
tawdry hamlet
everyone gangster until their team performs like Fusion, then they become the Fusion fans they mock kek
abstract nova
what will be playoffs meta?
forest raven
everyone gangster until their team performs like Fusion, then they become the Fu...
I don't cope I just get sad for a while then move on
devout path
My team lost to titans and Florida there is no copium only disappointment
tawdry hamlet
true
balmy wolf
whatever playoff patch they implement last sec to shake it up will be meta
vagrant cargo
That shi was embarassing
devout path
!!lily
young fractalBOT
3-0
tawdry hamlet
but at least your team didn't have a star studded roster to begin with so your disappointment proportionally isn't as bad
wicked pendant
Ball buff incoming for playoff patch
worn falcon
!!luigi
young fractalBOT
@plush grail https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209609220084072450/873173923209052180/image0.png
keen abyss
whatever playoff patch they implement last sec to shake it up will be meta
140 damage junkrat increased fire rate
vagrant cargo
but at least your team didn't have a star studded roster to begin with so your d...
Whats ur team
worn falcon
Did Luigi left?
tawdry hamlet
I don't really have one but I really like the fusion roster this year regardless
devout path
Did Luigi left?
No
worn falcon
Because says invalid user now lol
abstract nova
Washington I assume?
vagrant cargo
I don't really have one but I really like the fusion roster this year regardless...
Valid
abstract nova
oh
devout path
vagrant cargo
I could never be a fusion Fan because that fanbase
keen abyss
Did Luigi left?
says they still have roles too
tawdry hamlet
so I just take the weight of Philly disappointing me :((
I don't get involved in fanbases since I just talk here, fans are just fans, twitter and youtube chat are different kek
balmy wolf
somehow yt chat is the same like twitch chat but even worse
devout path
but at least your team didn't have a star studded roster to begin with so your d...
But they were becoming a lower upper level team
Which is what is disappointing
tawdry hamlet
if Philly didn't face shanghai in the first stage they easily would have made a knockouts
devout path
But hey we beat paris so I will always have that
worn falcon
But Shanghai losing to NYXL was
tawdry hamlet
I mean most of bostons wins were against wacky teams like Houston forcing one comp all day, justice forgetting how to play the game etc
devout path
They were supposed to be improving
agile lake
worn falcon
forest raven
I can't wait to watch leave poo all over kevster
abstract nova
Hanbin not enough votes tbh
worn falcon
Oh mvp votes are up?
wicked pendant
Twitter
agile lake
devout path
Btw : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531176418063941643/8766675492474717...
Idiots didn’t watch past stage 2
tawdry hamlet
on paper chengdu should diff in every single category
abstract nova
I think Dragons ar egetting less votes because Fleta was mvp last year
tawdry hamlet
but it should be close
and because they opened voting right when Shanghai stopped trying loll
devout path
Literally it’s just NA bias
worn falcon
I think because now want a tank mvp skin
agile lake
So many Dragons Choices I dont understand
abstract nova
Literally it’s just NA bias
Leave is second
devout path
Leave is second
Yeah leave popped off in that one SS playoffs
tawdry hamlet
if na bias was real Fleta wouldn't have an award and leave wouldn't be second loolll
tawdry hamlet
Yeah leave popped off in that one SS playoffs
you haven't watch apac then lmaoo
tawdry hamlet
he has been consistently better than profit like every game as of late
dusty hound
lucky is not just crowd votes but also castes and the desk will help on the mvp discussion so maybe that will balance things out between apac and na
worn falcon
Diya MVP when
tawdry hamlet
his tracer sombra and echo are crazy, also popularity vote is only like 20 percent
so who cares
next mesa
glads about to get spanked by dynasty 😩
balmy wolf
mvp race seems its gonna go to dallas or dragons to me
forest raven
Glads are playing Chengdu
tawdry hamlet
Diya :((
next mesa
atl against seoul
devout path
I hope pelican or lip gets it
dusty hound
Diya MVP when
next season this season mvp will be silver3
next mesa
ATL ABOUT TO GET SLAPPED BY SEOUL BUT THATS ALSO BECAUSE PELICAN CANT GO I HOPE HE FEELS BETTER BUT LIKE
tawdry hamlet
if Diya wasn't on Shanghai he would have easily been a top dps last year
abstract nova
I think Fearless mvp is pretty deserved, but tehrer ar eprobably others who deserve it more
devout path
I’d be fine with hanbin leave or fleta getting it too
worn falcon
Pelican 
balmy wolf
give me an mvp dva skin
tawdry hamlet
Leave Pelican Sparkle are the ones I would vote for
worn falcon
Having a lung flopping while playing
devout path
I just don’t like sparkle
dusty hound
I think Fearless mvp is pretty deserved, but tehrer ar eprobably others who dese...
outside of winston i dont really consider him an mvp candidate leave, hanbin and the shanghai boys deserved the price way more
tawdry hamlet
why because his team wins without him having to hard carry like the other top dps lmaoo
it is interesting how dallas they all seem to hold the load but on chengdu like 4 players do everything
gusty rampart
Straight up unlucky today
worn falcon
Sparple is good, the man was supposed to be the gengo/doomfist player, not their pharah/tracer
XZI
next mesa
if Diya wasn't on Shanghai he would have easily been a top dps last year
factual
u cant blame someone getting benched by Lip
god himself (diem) mostly gets benched by lip
gusty rampart
I'm pretty sure the APAC teams will hardcore dominate Reign and Glads
tawdry hamlet
I personally would put sparkle in the mvp race because he was supposed to be a flop two or three trick and has been upper mid to top all season and delivered where he has needed to which is just like better than we ever could have hoped
gusty rampart
Don't send the same 4 teams to Hawaii challenge: Difficulty Impossible
keen abyss
are shanghai and dallas really playing just to not get burnt out
tawdry hamlet
for me mvp is more than just absolute best player in the league, it is about having a good season I think and other factors
tawdry hamlet
especially with how diverse overwatch is and roles and such you can't really call one guy the best player in the league
so I just look at who had really good years this year
balmy wolf
when you go to playoffs every time its like playing the regular season nonstop
tawdry hamlet
forest raven
Shock loses and now the city I live in has gone from 9 to 28 cases
balmy wolf
the travel to hawaii reminds of csgo travel burnout
devout path
Shock loses and now the city I live in has gone from 9 to 28 cases <a:pepeW:8066...
Correlated
agile lake
devout path
As shock lose more people leave to party = more covid cases
tawdry hamlet
Shock loses and now the city I live in has gone from 9 to 28 cases <a:pepeW:8066...
my county has been at like 5k for two months welcome to the party
forest raven
https://twitter.com/super_OW/status/1427111038827196421
wicked pendant
agile lake
Very 
sullen berry
agile lake
sullen berry
Never mind that not everyone got what they wanted out of the qualifiers
So many upsets
Vancouver and London getting their first wins this season
devout path
<a:ATLCheer:548743392113328138> <a:SEO10k:546943466463297536> <a:GLA10k:45026230...
I hate how these are unsynced
worn falcon
Man NA is wack this time
balmy wolf
shit it would've been completely embarrassing to have 2 teams go winless in one season
hard to top season 1 dragons but its close
sullen berry
I hate how these are unsynced
Let it roar on shields up let's go hunt
balmy wolf
valiant got 2 maps this whole season
sullen berry
If you know it, don't say it Lily
balmy wolf
shit my take on london being mid tier went down the drain real fast
devout path
Let it roar on shields up let's go hunt
What
sullen berry
Map-less season is the new low for any of these teams to achieve
devout path
Hey are you Boston uprising? Cuz ur a disappointment
sullen berry
Are you lily? Because you just dropped a pick up line
willow tartan
glads about to get smoked by the hunters
devout path
Hey are you kenobi? Cuz you lost to me in pickems in the charge server
sullen berry
Did you see how I played the countdown cup qualifiers?
tropic herald
sullen berry
1 whole point
sullen berry
I was too busy reminding people and I was hoping to fill it out at 6am
agile lake
a
sullen berry
That og video has been reuploaded enough times I thought that was a dude with long hair
sullen berry
earnest leaf
does seoul run the orisa comps a bunch?
sullen berry
Yeah, with Gesture
balmy wolf
yea they run NA comps a lot
willow tartan
they play the orisa comps the ball comps and the ball with pharah comps
i think all of the top apac teams do
they really like to play the zarya though like unironically just play dva to win
balmy wolf
fits the best player in seoul so far for me
sullen berry
Oh ez
balmy wolf
his sombra and mcree is cracked
keen abyss
wait do shock get into playoffs if atlanta drop all their CC matches
willow tartan
yes
keen abyss
even more of a reason to root against atlanta
willow tartan
so if atlanta loses to seoul and then to glads/chengdu
keen abyss
seeing my 2 favorite teams both get into playoffs would be great
willow tartan
then shock go in
UNLESS
glads get 1st place
or 2nd place
wait theres only 4 places
keen abyss
but there is a world where shock and glads both make playoffs yes?
oak tapir
3
willow tartan
right so the only way shock doesnt go playoffs is if the finals is glads and atlanta
and they both get 3 and 2 league points respectively
oak tapir
atlanta only have to win1 round to get into playoffs dontnthey?
keen abyss
guess i'm hoping for a glads/apac final
forest raven
Atlanta only needs to win 1 game in Hawaii to get into playoffs
balmy wolf
think shock at worse gets in plays ins
oak tapir
and glads need to be in finals to get to play offs
willow tartan
if glads get into the final then shock dont go into playoffs
or if atlanta gets knocked out theyre immediately locked in
forest raven
At worst, Shock has top seed in play-ins
willow tartan
I dont think glads make finals
devout path
At worst, Shock has top seed in play-ins
Then they just play against Boston and we get eliminated immediately
oak tapir
i think atl and glads both lose then its losers bracket between the two
devout path
Wait
No
There’s a chance
If they pick Washington
There’s a chance
Cuz every other team other than whatever the top seed is is winnable
keen abyss
honestly CC really could go any way
earnest leaf
if shock have to go to play-ins they should be fine
devout path
I think Chengdu win
balmy wolf
at least wash cant make a miracle run like last time
earnest leaf
the only team I would worry about them facing would be outlaws
and outlaws can't match vs them
balmy wolf
everyone got salt because of wash last yr
devout path
at least wash cant make a miracle run like last time
Well....
Decay is still a player
Don’t ever count out decay
earnest leaf
I will count out decay
balmy wolf
decay hasnt even been close to last season
earnest leaf
maybe
devout path
Justice is just a disappointment
earnest leaf
he was overrated from the start due to a few flashy series and a weird playoff run
where he played a role
he won't touch again
devout path
They drop 2-2-2 and brig gets omega buffed
balmy wolf
someone sign haksal to get best brig
keen abyss
make it happen
gladiators win those
moth lucio shu zen skewed brig
impossible to lose
balmy wolf
they wouldnt play goats
they would play hackfist comps
too bad that comp is really shit today
willow tartan
shanghai dragons multi dps comp
balmy wolf
that would be fun to watch again
next mesa
we were too high on the london tankline
devout path
Chengdu multi dps
next mesa
all the ppl that watched eu contenders were like hadi and molf1g insaneeee tankline
earnest leaf
mirror
devout path
who would be zar on gladiators
Birdring
devout path
True
devout path
Yeah
keen abyss
he's just cracked af on any flex support
devout path
True
balmy wolf
idk playing goats is a very hard thing to do
devout path
But shu zen
Didnt we see a goats match between Washington and Florida before the season started
keen abyss
who has had the best rein in glad's history anyways
was cloudy good in OWL
or just in ranked
devout path
who has had the best rein in glad's history anyways
Cloudy
Cloudy was good at rein in owl
balmy wolf
i forgot the guys name
keen abyss
kevster reinhardt
devout path
Oh yeah fissure
balmy wolf
best mt to play with glads
devout path
Fissure was the guy that got the pharmercy primal kill
balmy wolf
too bad his time with titans didnt last long
devout path
When was fissure on titans
keen abyss
it was so cool at the time seeing london drop fissure because they already had gesture
then see fissure diff gesture on glads
devout path
Oh
balmy wolf
had about 2 games where they both stomp and then they were gone
tawdry hamlet
they signed him and surprised a bunch of people because they already had good players in every role and fissure had a weird reputation
I remember reading an article about it back then
balmy wolf
yea but he was good even if he had long breaks in pro play
devout path
Is fissure retired
tawdry hamlet
yeah fissure was good for sure, just surprised people
and I am unsure, I don't think he ever completely retired
barren quest
Where has Fissure been since he was gone from Titans
balmy wolf
retired
worldly flax
that winston clip of fissure juggling a pharah and mercy mid air though 
tawdry hamlet
Seominsoo wasn't on a team at all, and then somehow got on spark plays two maps and disappears again
devout path
how many teams have a positive win ratio vs shock
Probs not a lot
balmy wolf
they sweep every team so thats says a lot
worldly flax
too bad they couldn't make it to hawaii this time too 
keen abyss
pretty sure glads have a positive win ratio
earnest leaf
glads are 7-5 vs shock I think?
next mesa
I think its
6-6
I thought it was 6-5 shock
before the match
Saw it on the card
and then they won
earnest leaf
they didn't choke vs dallas/atlanta
they just got rolled there
kind of a choke today though
tacit skiff
Shu's going to Hawaii to prove that MVP nomination wasn't just a fluke
willow tartan
So is profit :)
balmy wolf
lets hope next season we actually get all the teams in one region
tacit skiff
willow tartan
lets hope next season we actually get all the teams in one region
trueee
tacit skiff
next season? lmao nice one
balmy wolf
the parity of the league went to shit went split regions happened
willow tartan
can we just put all the dogshit teams in one region and the good ones in another
tacit skiff
id rather Shanghai not play at 1800 ping against dallas
earnest leaf
Legit just bring back a blizzard arena type scenario
tacit skiff
I miss 0-40
YOOO wait
big brain idea
overwatch team campus
house all the teams in like
a college campus
near the la arena
perfect for content creation
next mesa
y
tacit skiff
no such things as laws in america
balmy wolf
lol content creation in ow went down the drain a long time ago
willow tartan
overwatch team campus
what like sumo stables?
tacit skiff
wth is sumo stables
tacit skiff
oh
well sorta
just get a really big campus
each team with their own facility
no ping issues
because lan
willow tartan
you mean like an overwatch city?
sort of like the olympics city
but for overwatch teams
tacit skiff
they already do that
tawdry hamlet
player cams are the best parts of big matches
willow tartan
tacit skiff
super at the end of the game today
he looked so sad
wdym shock have the best w/l in na
their playoff spot should be fine?
devout path
Isn’t that what a foreign job does anyways
willow tartan
if glads and atlanta get league points
balmy wolf
their league points are not high to secured a spot
tawdry hamlet
depends
Chengdu and Seoul both look really strong on the ball comps tbh
but Atlanta is so set in their orisa comp and so good at it
that anything could happen
willow tartan
haha you think na will win a single game
atlanta will win against glads in losers
tacit skiff
Atlanta will lose no cap
oak tapir
shock copium
tawdry hamlet
so is custa or johnny going to hawaii this time lolll
keen abyss
can we just put all the dogshit teams in one region and the good ones in another
don't do that to NA 
tacit skiff
custa hopium
devout path
so is custa or johnny going to hawaii this time lolll
Hopefully Johnny
tacit skiff
does soe live in the states and that's why she was able to go to Hawaii?
devout path
I want custa to stay on the desk
keen abyss
so i just need to hope atl loses 2
there's hope for my 2 favorite teams to make playoffs
just a grand atlanta choke
devout path
Only pain and disappointment
keen abyss
given either shock or glads making it to playoffs i want it to be glads
tacit skiff
poor oge
keen abyss
but i'd love to see them go head to head in playoffs
tacit skiff
Boston vs Chengdu gf
keen abyss
i like both teams
and while it pained me to see shock lose today
it's the outcome i wanted
glads fan since day 1
valiant was my second favorite team until the random valiant event
tacit skiff
san Francisco shock kekw
keen abyss
shock filled in as the second california team
and i like their rivalry this season
and their youtube channel pretty good
willow tartan
Depends on playoffs patch
keen abyss
i
balmy wolf
spent mine on the goats brig
balmy wolf
i was gonna get the doom skin but brig other legends skins are kinda meh
tacit skiff
valiant was my second favorite team until the random valiant event
"the Jan 29th incident"
tacit skiff
I got to 200 again today, but I don't think I'm gonna buy another vaulted skin
I want them to release a new limited time skin for like Tracer or Sombra
keen abyss
never really liked valiant's roster much ever since the color swap anyways
the valiant i'll always remember fondly was the shitty color valiant
man they really couldn't have just gone with forest green
they had to go from puke green to some ugly light blue yellow combo
tacit skiff
watching old yt videos
forgot how smol amp matrix was
it's cute
tacit skiff
valiant should've gone with like
pure yellow
keen abyss
valiant should've gone with like
pure yellow
we only have 2 green teams now
and neither of them are good color schemes
valiant's could've been good with forest green
but they fucked it
like their branding went from this muddy shit
tacit skiff
2?
vc and what?
tacit skiff
if Blizzard isn't going to release new maps into the comp pool could they at least fix horizon and paris
keen abyss
2?
vc and what?
outlaws
keen abyss
imagine how good valiant skins would be if they'd updated them from the puke green skins to the forest green
tacit skiff
why are you so obsessed with the Valiant colour scheme
keen abyss
because it was a massive missed opportunity
tacit skiff
do you think the Valiant org is ever going to make good decisions?
keen abyss
;
keen abyss
now watch the Valiant org purchase the sfs roster
worst decision of the year
tacit skiff
there's a difference between standout bcuz bad and standout bcuz good
they standout because they're terrible skins
balmy wolf
kind of surprised shock changed their color scheme
tacit skiff
I feel sorry for anyone who supported the Valiant in years past and now have to wear those things
balmy wolf
the black look sleek but not much else going for it
tacit skiff
Silver3's only problem preventing him from being #1 mt is the skin
devout path
Not true silver3 fan unless you got ball skin
tacit skiff
imagine not owning every skin for your team
devout path
Not true silver3 fan
willow tartan
its pastel boston
keen abyss
they took boston's color scheme and made the yellow too bright
tacit skiff
Valiant's skins are just offbrand Boston skin
devout path
Boston skins are so bad
tacit skiff
they give tokens for free dumdum
devout path
So I buy Seoul skins cuz they are objectively the best skins
tacit skiff
surprisingly for Activision Blizzard, they give out a lot for frew
considering they stream 18 a week
keen abyss
surprisingly for Activision Blizzard, they give out a lot for frew
they make up for it by sabotaging the systems that provide them
tacit skiff
sucks to suck
devout path
Literally just leave owl open on another monitor while you do whatever
keen abyss
so people don't actually get their tokens
tacit skiff
I had trouble with tokens during the summer showdown
no problems for the cc
so far that is
earnest leaf
Can't change my mind though that seoul/shock have the best color schemes in the league
they both look so nice on every hero
tacit skiff
I was low-key pissed when I didn't earn tokens for the ss finals, one of the longest possible games
balmy wolf
glads purple aint too bad
barren quest
Can't go wrong with NYXL and Outlaws skins
tacit skiff
can we talk about how great paris' colour scheme is on tracer and only tracer
keen abyss
glad my team has a good color scheme
barren quest
Charge skins are underrated
balmy wolf
NY has a great color scheme as well
devout path
Can't change my mind though that seoul/shock have the best color schemes in the ...
Seoul is so clean
tacit skiff
charge skins are ass
devout path
You can’t not tell me rein has the best owl skins