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Gaga’s aim is p good
there we go
gwangboong sombra?/
hes off the genji
Yummy torby
shit with emp nano even I would get some kills
Alr we seeing some shock/seoul comps now?
I expect full hold here
Jjonak and hitting random sleeps lmaoo
honestly i wanted a 5 map series
He sees someone near him and just poof slept
Oh my god leave
LEAVE MVP
ripp
gg
Ez game
molten core
Gg
ggs
EZ See ya NYchokeL
Jjonak is just so used to this
LOL
Friday 😢
ggs
"a valiant attempt"
not sure if u wanna attempt anything they way they do 
Friday : (
They played torb genji in peak Chengdu fashion
Is Nyxl season over
or do they make it
Leave played so well
It’s over
Ah sadge for Friday
unfortunately its sunday 
Best main support in the league robbed
His last owl game 
So sad watching owl players you know are probably not gonna be there next year

Remember when people thought I was crazy for rating NYXL below Charge and Boston?
safe how?
Hunters are doing pretty darn good rn
Too bad, the Gladiators exist
I give it to Chengdu or Philly. I want to give it to Atlanta but every time they try their custom comp in Hawaii it lost
in apac
true
Tbf Chengdu has had arguably the easiest strength of schedule out of all teams this tournament
whos best in west?
atlanta
Atlanta atm
get fucked shitter
Phusion fans crying rn
Not really
time for the match of who can choke the most lol
I’m used to disappointment
no dont hope
They don’t win
thats how you become sad


just dont have expectations and youll either be neutral or pleasently suprised
Can’t cope until next season with a Clestyn Kellan tank line
literally applies to everything lol
lol
based mindset
Brb gonna put a home jersey on top of my away jersey
Also depends on if crusty Crack Pipe make a surprise appearance or if rushrooms or dpei dmt surface
rushrooms lmao
that's great
I don't think they will but imagine if Dallas actually decide to play properly now
Imagine if they play pine 
based
sp9rk1e v nero pharah yum
I'll miss you Jaws and Vicki 
Hopefully lemonkiwi is next on promotion block for commentators 
@formal glacier you spooked me
One can hope
Time for sadness
is that Jaws and Vikki's last game this season?
surely they'll be part of playins/playoffs right?
eqo uh
wasnt great there
astro is good
hes actually a god
its hard to notice bcos hes on brig but hes really really good
uh yeah
usually
they probably sit down during breaks
They probably sit lol
thing is we've seen EQO hanzo look pretty good

they really want to take them down
creative on bap will look good for my fantasy stats
Holy shit the emotional pain this team causes
Why do they purposely almost lose fights
Oooooh
I'm so nervous bro
What are these trades nooo
Holy fuck so much stall
Sad
philadephia fusion more like loseion
cuz fusion suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
One blocked message
fr
eqo hasnt been good apart from at the very end
he kept dieing first and because we are so passive it gave seoul so much % on the point
they had no confidence at all
Next year it’ll be better

Seems like the fusion experience will continue 😭
The peak fusion thing to do next year would be to decide to go back to NA after wasting a year on visa issues in Korea
Tbf
Considering around October 2020 that the USA had like the worst odds with covid cases and deaths
It was a safe move to go to korea
orange bowl less go
Plus the fact that the Korean players and the western players were split up after the grand finals
Lmao
Which part?
Sparks building could beat up your building
my parent org could beat up your parent org
🍝 🥣
My CEO could beat up your CEO
Was CDH vs NYXL close or just a stomp? Didn't get to see the match
uh
eqo
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how did alarm not die
gesture pogged
bro this is like
an exact copy of fusion vs shanghai in mm
draw on volskaya again
2 cp moment
I mean
eqo out chipsa in 😈
It’s like the two fates are colliding
Oh wait hes gone 😭 😭
Seoul being destined to make knockouts and lose or Fusion being destined to lose in general
I can see a seoul vs sf shock rematch from grand finals last year
Why are people high on Shock
They beat: a winless team
The team that lost to a winless team
And Defiant without Aspire
I’ve got faith in Glads now that they look like they’re coaching themselves
k so we have mirrored comp
glads easily the second best team in na rn
Dude I hate the zarya so much
Hotba was 0 energy when he graved and toyou was near 0 too
It is fuckin bullshit that all four of Shanghai, Chengdu, Seoul, and Philly can't go to playoffs
Yeah, only 3 team which is a sadge
yh why tf is it only 3 from apac and 5 from na
cause they wanted 8 ig
should've been 10 though
Since it's like stages
6 knockouts na, 4 knockouts apac
HZS could also go to playoffs instead of seoul/philly. Can't just send everyone to playoffs
lol 0 chance
This is seoul/Philly, either team could hard throw the playins
well if that happens then Hangzhou deserves the in
Was map 1 close
That was a nice dive on alarm
sombra diff
Alarm has a big dick
Yooo
ALARM HOTBA CARRY HOLY SHIT
Doubters wya
how
eqo shit
did philly win this
Kek I was a doubter
but alarm good
Wait what happened to the grav?
This match man
whos grav?
Dropped spaghetti everywhere
Anti clutch vs anti clutch
Seoul went way too deep to try and get Astro when he was rallying
alarm clutched
Alarm and Hotboss
godba
godba
Anyway I hate zarya play can we please get more DVa
no
no
toyou and hotba are both zar one tricks
so they just solo grav each other 24/7
Tell that to the 3-0 Hotba got against Dragons playing the best dva of his career
if the best DVa of his career is winning against a team that isn't trying to win then
Cope harder
^
true
Dva oh boy
Gesture gets nano'd and tries to jump a tracer? I dont get this guy sometimes
why do I always think "how do they lose this" with fusion
we
Seoul is just good
big brain
“The Philadelphia Fusion announce the signing of flex dps ‘FIR4E’”
just play shockwave 😎
Seoul can beat hunters
Truuuueeee
let's gooooo
yooo
Huge sleep
okay I didn't like that
should've nanoed the wins
and
epic
Creative is new to the dynasty right?
yes
He's been with the team since like mid 2020
No
doubt
Creative played in the grand finals
They got off the point
They make it thought the loosers bracket and loose to the hunters
: (
this is the Asian bread bowl.
can either team without a tournament appearance despite making final four last year get one?
was it a c9
Gesture primaled them away
It's kids that only want league tokens
no carpe was in mid recal so he wasnt contestiong
if they had touched point they could have won
: (
please play shockwave 😩
Gotta put the bag into Hunters now
atleast let him play twice this season
It's a massive team diff all around
idk i just wanna see him play lol
Better sombra than EQO
Oh wow I didnt noticed before I didnt check my scores.. so close 🤣
https://imgur.com/a/9hOuNTG
They can loose a 1v6
hope we get more DVa gameplay 
Fuel throws against the sfs
😭
Seen
sadge
Fits
That barrage mmm
Nice sleep lol
Send
toyou please swap rn
Toyou to spawn
TTours observer pls
Thank god
Finally
fr
OS'd 
Seoul throwing
We've seen nothing from the fight nice 
Lmao spaghetti commentary is goated
Seoul please don't fucking play zarya anymore
seoul threw but eqo did well
Can we just like ban toyou from picking zarya
I’m just in awe as to what i am witnessing
Even the casters are going off
Mm carpet
hes GOING OFF
carpe holy shit
carpe classic 3k
Carpe with the hello
ehhhh
no
they're not even the same role
honestly the team with more ults always seems to choke this series
like that
It's currently happening
No way, Trans + Rally + EMP and you lose?
4 ultimate and lost the team fight
Memp memp memp why why why
Lmao
FUSION MOMENT
im dying inside
Yeah because its fusion
gg

okay now watch toyou play zarya

Seoul with zarya, Seoul lose. Philly with zarya, philly lose.
Do you guys not get it yet?
SMH
It's gg Seoul just better honestly, individually these players are cracked but as a team Seoul is blatantly just better

It comes down to coaching
And if Seoul runs meme comp again

carpe nano why again?
Gesture 
why the carpe nano
how is gesture toyou outplaying Mano hotba
AVRL is actually gm iirc so his commentary is so much better 
AVRL is also just a great amalyst
:)
Hotba's bomb ???
seoul just better
Seoul are just better indeed
There's a gigantic Tank diff tbh
Seoul getting us owl tokens 🙏
Gesture ball going waytoodank but hotba keeping up
WATCH THEM NANO CARPE AGAIN
???
nvm
Fusion tokens 
that was a pathetic throw
Eqo ahhh
Eqo wth


ggs
Creative has been cracked
Deserved
Can't stop the profits train

Gesture to you actually playing good
@tawdry hamlet L
Time to see Profit and Fits fuck up the NA teams :)
Someday we will see Fusion's cams with happy faces 
I won't take that from someone who's team went 0-8 and is already out of the season 
Seoul made a tournament for once
It's just that they've been overshadowed
Sort of like Shock
There's no music 
When a team goes 0-8 and still shows up to more tournaments than Philly 
dont worry we go next tourney guyss !!!!
Seoul had a poor May Melee yes, but in the June Joust and Summer Showdown they had to play Shanghai in knockouts
philly experience continues less goo
Florida didn't face Shanghai in knockouts 
Seoul's regular season is only one map below Shanghai's
profit will clap some NA cheeks
I hope Seoul beat down Atlanta
I believe in him
yeah keep hoping
I need Atlanta and glads to go Hawaii
get rolled shitters
I cant imagine the pain of fusion fans
No need to hope, profit will show up this tournament
Real hopium is people thinking shock is going through 
They're used to it
let me 
glads will beat both anyways
In before Shanghai come to playoffs and perform like they did in countdown cup 
Yeah I think they'll beat Dallas but not Glads as well
The Shanghai Special:
Built diff.
ProFits so good
Anywhere to check what heroes has had their Contenders skins on the viewing reward rotation?
loseion does it again

Did fusion make it to play offs?
no

Philly are in play-ins
im sad
Didn't matter the two rosters I liked this year coming into the season were London, Toronto, and Philly and I stuck by supporting them 
Oh well
holy shit dude someone just said to me that fleta isn't a flex dps because he's "mostly played echo tracer"

draw check overwatch srious
Not top 5 imo
Top 10 yes
How am I gonna help you with blizzard servers dude
jay3 top 1 for sure
you're a mod in the overwatch server bro
bro i was literally supporting fusion mayhem and london this year lol
XD
Arguably not top 5 this year but I do think Seoul's been overshadowed by Shanghai
contact your blizzard staff friends
exactly
Dallas 6th seed moment
Seoul gonna pop in CC
^^ common sense x
Fuel trying to lose rn
That's the thing I don't even care if my teams are bad it's whatever I like players more than roster 
the roster is made up of players
I meant more than teams
He wasn't top 5 dps last year either
I don't care about a team brand I like players 
i just dont want the players on fusion to be sad : ( hotba looked so defeated in player cams
Has yzena say why he doesn't wanna play in owl?
Because he is a pharah one trick
cause no one will sign him
And he isn't good enough and he was too young I think and he's in middle east 
I've seen him on echo and cree too
One tricking = you do not get into owl
So visas etc etc
Yzsnsa playing echo and cree is the reason they lost to hurricane
Paris has a tracer 1 trick
why do you support dragons
cause they are near to where i live
Despair
He plays when they do a little trolling
No
And ruin his mental on purpose kek
Do they ever do well when he plays
Lmaov
Hey tsuna, map 5 of a game we've been running the same comp all series let's sub in tsuna when onigods been pounding haha
Loses

Oh guys what am I saying, shock have a one trick called super
True
He isn't a 1 trick
They did tsuna so dirty 
He plays main tank
He one tricks getting diffed
super has a good ball
Orisa
Draw pls
Istg
He does nope
I can't type
So are we guessing which team will play a dumb comp and get rolled later, yesterday it was Houston who will it be today oooh
Why would a dps player have a good ball
I wouldn't be surprised if Dallas plays pine
Dallas and shanghai reserving their energy
Dallas has a gentlemen's agreement with shock to play ans vs pine widowmaker
I predict Reign run rein no Lucio and feed, OR dpei does a bunch of shrooms pre game and runs mirror pharah or something
Yea
Lucio is banned

Shock play viol2t cree
The true test will be, if Dallas counter pharah with pine 😳
Does Nero play pharah?
Shock's committed to running rein/orisa, yet Atlanta plays a better rein/orisa and still plays ball as well

nero has a great pharah
nero's pharah is cracked
Nero is an s tier flex dps this year tbh
no
He deserves more credit than he gets
no
Dallas playing pine now would kinda make sense
Shut up Ratlanta fan
bruh how is nero s tier
They don’t care that much about Hawaii
Dallas literally can't lose number 1 seed
ur delusion is reaching stratospere
Is Nero not on tier with sparkle who having gone to Hawaii twice this year would likely be above a tier 
nero is a tier maybe
Idk he is up there this season, bottom of s tier 
Nero is not S tier get help
no
He’s like high B low A
yeah
Assassin, Valentine, Naist, Teru, Naga, are all worse than him but I'm having a stroke naming all the flex dps 
bro
Shock fans
shock fans smh
Yuck
f
Im not a shock fan but Nero has high A tier most games excluding mei we don't talk about that 
Dawg shock has struggled this year but nero has consistently been the best player on the team
and?
I think Nero mei sucking was a lot on super too lmaoo
he is not stier
In b4 Draw jumps ship to Glads and becomes a Kevster simp
?
Nero has been good
Kevster is overrated to the moon on god 🙏
He's great
But people act like he is the best flex in the world
nero is a solid lock for A tier
From the shock games I’ve scene Neros looked pretty good
same w pelican
s tier is pelican sparkle fleta etc
sparkle too
Who is Nero above then
nero has no place in there
pelican is not s tier
are u trippin bro
neither is sparkle
leave and fleta are both better fdps than them
kinda
going to Hawaii twice means nothing if you aren't good at every single hero under the sun apparently 
leave is the best player in the world
but sparkle and pelican are s tier
dont forget that nero has a stage title
sparkle barely i guess you could argue
ahahahaha
Sparkle is S tier on a few heroes, but his hero pool still feels very limited
Sparkle is definitely a distant third compared to Leave and Fleta
pelican is better than sparkle
Pelican is like the third best echo in the world and a top 3 mei this season I really don't see why you're so scared of marking him s tier. He's a distant 4th or so but he's still in there if we're talking about s4 specifically
He has had an amazing season
cause its semantics and i think he belongs in A tier but like
All I know is that I want Leave to fuck my mom
number 1 in A tier

Pelican is absolutely one of the best
And I am stupid for engaging with it
Mirror, let's do mirror where does he rank 
as a fdps?
Top 10 in no particular order?
top 10 in very particular order
Leave and Fleta are top 2 no doubt
That's basically a tier list
no its not
But shorter
tiers are in no particular order
leave #1 flleta #2
Ok so top 10 fdps
no one cares about the other fdps
^^^
^^^
can we get more hitscan please
Imagine if Shock could perma run Glister/Ans double sniper
o might ow gods

glister ans cool and all
leave fleta pelican sparkle yaki profit kevster jinmu doha nero
but watch out for jimmy leave
in that order
why is yaki above profit
Imagine if ans develop pine Jerry shockwave ever got to play 
Yaki above profit 
Sadge
yaki is def better
Yaki is better than profit
no
Y'all do not watch APAC
we will see profit tear up NA in the countdown cup
Then you're even dumber
Yaki is insanely good but I'm pretty sure flexibility wise profit still beats him 
How many times has profit beaten sideshow
Flex dps is pretty dumb to rank because how do you classify it. Do they have to be able to play Tracer? Do you count all non-hitscan heroes? Does Sombra count as flex?
That's what I thought
r you going off of just this season or the player throughout their history in the league
if they are a flex dps player they count as flex dps
ur takes are literally the worst tf r u talking bout
Bro Yaki plays like four heroes
yaki was one of the few ppl that were good on echo when she first released last year
but now?
ehh
profit >
This is not the playtime of a flex dps
Earlier on in the season I'd give Yaki the edge but now it's probably profit 
yaki isnt great on echo but profit aswell
I have yaki as a top echo 
Holy Ratlanta fans
Damn
Rascal died this year can we talk about that 
Y'all get dicked on by APAC and suddenly you're worse than Shock bandwagoners from last year
rascal aka mei player
hes still probably the best mei
but on a roster with carpe eqo shockwave
he is mei player
dicked on by fleta and leave bro
I miss when rascal was called the most flexible player in the world
there is a difference

ur just trippin hard
im not delusional for saying some na players are better than some apac players
hell my top 2 are apac
i do
like if i was building a team id take profit over yaki
I think at this very moment in time profit is better but most of the season I had yaki better. Seoul are hard to even rate because their record is so good despite their failures this year
fair
but on the most important heroes yaki is better
Florida lost 8 games in a row
Florida had checkmate as MT
pharah mei tracer
honestly id say profit has a better pharah
but we havent seen too much pharah from him
I really blame Kuki entirely for the 0-8 streak lmao
^^^
It is OWL tradition for coaches to do narcotics before important games.
Makes things more "interesting"
It's league tradition to take lots of narcotics while coming up with the playoff patch notes

Ah yes 2-2-2 that cuck over one team completely yes, ah yes roadhog that will cuck over one team completely ah yes

honestly im not surprised if the ow balance team has enough freedom that they can be like "yo what do you guys wanna see this playoffs? oh i bet we should do this"
cause they can just revert the patch
They're gonna do something stupid like a bastion rework and force it through
And we'll have some thing dumb like experimental mode tier
Like summer showdown
Listen, no matter what stupid shit that the playoffs patch is
June joust I mean
It cant be stupid as the pro experimental card
no it wasnt
it was "nerf this! nerf this! nerf this! nerf this! nerf this! nerf this! "
That meta actually fucking sucked I hated that shit
Was like watching a custom game while queueing
I also did not like the Sombra Hanzo matchups they're so slow paced

I also do not like the zarya in the ball comps that fusion and seoul keep forcing
if seoul sticks to the dva they will unironically roll that stupid rein comp that shock runs
Zaryas been forced by a few teams for some reason
Atlanta will run orisa dva to the end I assume
I think Chengdu did it once and all the other apac teams were like "hmm i should do this"
Dive is unironically boring me after 4 metas with it
Double shield when?
Perhaps a spot of rush/brawl?
I miss rein comps a bit but dive is hella fun
I liked goats as a meta
But I didn’t like the fact that it lasted for pretty much an entire season
no
But yeah I agree that prolonged metas get boring
Double hitscan
Cockwave
DeveLip
Glister Ans
Heesu Aspire
Leave Jimmy
Gwangboong Flora
Oh wait they’re out of play ins
double hitscan either wouldnt happen cause they would just get dived on constaly by dva monkey or it would become a double shield hide meta both scenarios sounds not fun
or they buff the shit out of ashe and widow
i doubt that lmao widow is already busted
widow cant be played cause dive too strong
so they'd have to nerf dive not buff widow
shit still makes a tank with like 300-400 hp to 150-230 in half a second
how is that not op
cree has dmg drop off you have to be on them on them to do that
not as op
i still think cree shouldnt have 225 hp lmao
my point being widow is cause i was having a convo with meme and he said buff widow and ashe so i was saying why widow shouldnt be
lmao ur mental bro
what rank are you gotta be lower than diamond
idk ask meme he wants em buffed
theres no perfect world where hs fits nice you buff them they too damn op compared to projectile but if you nerf them then pharah cho becomes mega op they have fucked the dps role and there not a really simple way to make them even
not that it really matters though the game depends so heavily around the tank role dps role has the smallest impact in team fights compared to tank and healer roles
no dont buff widow
just make her more playable
make dive less prevalent
the only buff i want her is revert the hp nerf
cause it makes her way too fragile
i do agree dive is annoying monkeys jump should have 2-3 more seconds on cooldown he is annoying af
because it has most impact
thats just a false statement
whether something is fun or not to play is subjective because ultimately people have different preferences
as a tracer/doom i find the amount of cc annoying too lmao
the definition of objective is that if it is completely and unfalliably true
subjective means it depends on person to person and their interpretation and how they feel about the tank role
objective means absolute truth
tank role is fun if your not playing rein or orisa or sigma lmao
just go ball monkey and dva and roll/jump/fly around
Orisa go brrr
I don't mean to say how you feel is wrong, I just want to correct your usage of the term "objective"
Because your use of objective is objectively wrong.
;)
nah id say healing is least fun imo just because you gotta hard focus spaming heals at your team rather than shooty shooty bad guys
o7
yeah when i play him my team so bad that they constantly at low health so i end up spamming right click while looking at their feet while they bunched up
Thats why i frontline ana
measure twice, cut once
Frontline ana best playstyle.
nah shock just cannt keep up with fdgod's aggression
why u think dallas played so fast in the june joust
theyre the paris eternal
bruh fd is a reddit lucio so hard
fdgod is like a western leejaegon
aggression 4 dayz
ehh
fdgod doesnt speak korean i think
so it would depend if fearless could speak english
ljg >
im glad lucio banned bruh no fd is nice
id love to see ball ana be banned for a month the comps would go back to rein lucio so fast
i think it go in way of lucio brig rein
after moira nerf i think they rather a brig
What nerf did moira get?
Why the fuck would it be Lucio brig and not Lucio bap
hence why they havnt used ur much in last 2-3 months
are you crazy
OH MY GOD
SEOUL WON
SEOUL WONNNN
😩😩😩😩 LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
LETS
FUCKING
GOOOO
Seoul are just better
🙏 🙏
Seoul are probably peaking 1 tournament too early by their standards. They need to be mediocre all season and then go on a playoff run
If Pine doesn't play much, at least he finally got to Dallas and got his Bday to be special
omg maybe we'll finally see him play
They'll probably chuck him in today. They dont want to go to Hawaii really, and it'll be a crowd favourite
maybe he pops the FUCK off
Have him and ANS just widow 1v1 for the map
they dont look excited at all
jecse doesnt want to be there
They likely want to go back to bed and sleep and not have to play an OWL game today lol
They'll probably just turn up and play without much warmup or care. Or they could show up to knock out shock and then throw against LAG
Shock needs to go to Hawaii
So do LAG, but cant both go 😄
bruh same, the last matches didn't have an encore
I just watch the vods
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Play Rascal 4weird
his sombra isn't good either
rascal washed
eqo had to flex on tracer when carpe was on cree hanzo
well its better than rascal
Pine playing today Les gooo
rascal has never played sombra well
well you are playing against fits 😎
pine vs ans Pog
shock will deff lose map one lmao
itll be a close 2cp or a absolute roll from either side
i just hope shock can take both payloads
I hope Shock wins Countdown Cup
Now that I think about it
seoul is so lucky
Shock has gotten some time to see what dallas runs
that profits is just so good
and how to deal with it
gesture on ball is worse than me
gesture ball is so fucking baf
bad
its unbelievable
they will still tooth and nail run rein orisa and try to force something that wont work lol
shock throws just how it is







