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#esports-discussion
tropic herald
But Develop was on Talon too
tropic herald
Also I thought about the sickest Atlanta off season move
tropic herald
Drop Gator n Hawk n Edison n maybe Masaa
tropic herald
Pick up Mag Piggy Proper
tawdry hamlet
mag is a downgrade tbh
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no way
tawdry hamlet
tropic herald
It’s a hard ask
tropic herald
mag is a downgrade tbh
Mag haters are irrational
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or cade or whatever
tropic herald
Mag fucking sucks wym
Mag haters prating on his downfall
I’m done w my Bebe Closer Assassin simp
tawdry hamlet
I think it is the extremely lackluster performance
although assassin recently has been whiffing so many emps
tropic herald
Mag haters when hes top 5 next year Bc he joins a good team
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Someone woohyal would be good but i dont htink top tier
tropic herald
tropic herald
Bro ur cappin
earnest leaf
Honestly
Keep gator
but add mag for ball/winston
Gator definitely has proven to be a solid enough rein/orisa
tropic herald
Main tank rotations are the deaths of a team imo
earnest leaf
It works if the two tanks are good enough on their respective heroes
tawdry hamlet
I genuinely think atlanta just need an off tank and main support
everything else is probably fine enough
for a high tier team
tropic herald
Tbh I think Mag is better at Rein than Gator too
earnest leaf
imo gator just needs a second MT to compliment his hero pool
tropic herald
piggy isnt gonna leave his buddy
Piggy n Peli are best friends
tawdry hamlet
didn't mag get rein gapped by oge
tropic herald
When
earnest leaf
oh yea
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dont see piggy and jjangu seperating
tawdry hamlet
may melee 
earnest leaf
may melee oge ran a train over him
idk mag just seems so inconsistent outside of winston
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when is innovatio ngetting signed
tropic herald
idk mag just seems so inconsistent outside of winston
Justice in general have a poor understanding of not dive
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Innovation tracer > striker tracer
tropic herald
Like just watch them play Rush
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trust
tawdry hamlet
so then what is the issue with justice, just assassin bebe closer?
tropic herald
- coaching
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unironically play ttuba
at dps
dont be a bitch
get assassin off the lineup
hes dog
tawdry hamlet
ttuba when he plays brig in the only meta he could be used on pharah 
Fury looks fine but out of sync with his team
tropic herald
I’m not even a Mag simp but Mag slander is too much
tawdry hamlet
as with most of washington
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Fury looks fine but out of sync with his team
yea
he actually looked borderline sometimes horrible but its not like a mechanical thing as we all know
tawdry hamlet
Fury and Decay often just look like they are on their own wavelength
willow tartan
I don't think anyone is in sync with anyone else on the justice
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also
willow tartan
It looks like a ranked squad playing off of each other's plays
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why did mykaylee literally transition to ot
tropic herald
dont see piggy and jjangu seperating
Piggy is literally best friends w Peli like I don’t think you understand
willow tartan
how u know
earnest leaf
fury is washed, assassin is dogshit, bebe is bad, closer is a bot, mag is a one trick, decay is overrated
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rl rl
tropic herald
why did mykaylee literally transition to ot
I think UP OT was sick or some
tawdry hamlet
fun thing I noticed is that Boston Synergy has been mad stonks recently, excluding the Vancouver game where they forced one comp 
earnest leaf
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punk unironically good
willow tartan
That was synergy, they were losing as a team. @tawdry hamlet
tawdry hamlet
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okay so they are best friends
earnest leaf
willow tartan
yeah and carpe/diem were friends too but we never had both carpe and diem on the same team
tawdry hamlet
talking about overrated Valentine and Aassassin 
coming in overrated I mean
not anymore
willow tartan
imagine the carpe/diem duo sadge
willow tartan
What is going on with GBS?
tropic herald
Valentine is alright I think
tropic herald
His pool is just weird
willow tartan
also myungb0ng
tawdry hamlet
kind of like Assassin, except Assassin Sombra is creative
willow tartan
Assassin Sombra is Creative?
tawdry hamlet
creatively bad
north relic
Assassin Sombra is Creative?
he controls the air
willow tartan
He is EMPing the air so the enemy team cant breathe
cause the air is hacked and has no abilities
tawdry hamlet
when we getting lip emps pharah off the map part 2
willow tartan
LIP will do that during the playoffs
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u guys think bqb getting dropped?
willow tartan
and make shanghai drop to a loser bracket because of that
barren quest
No
willow tartan
no way bqb gets dropped
he's like the 2nd best player on their team
behind checkmate
tropic herald
u guys think bqb getting dropped?
Probably
tawdry hamlet
he radiates consistently A tier energy
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doesnt have that ans fits energy
willow tartan
theres not many people with fuck you energy on hitscan
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that "fuck you" headshots energy
tropic herald
.
tawdry hamlet
mayhem need to pick up Roar to replace Oge since they love cheap mediocre tanks
good plan
willow tartan
i doubt shanghai would be willing to part with develop
earnest leaf
you lost me at drop bqb
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carpe is fuck you sometimes
willow tartan
Lip at hitscan actually not that fuck you
LIP is consistently A tier except he's consistently S tier
less fuck you, more like get fucked
earnest leaf
florida's dps line is the only reason they have wins this season
tropic herald
Xzi
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have u ever watched lip pov ashe
tawdry hamlet
gnj in may melee was great but then he just became same as everyone else
willow tartan
thats not fuck you energy thats just him normally
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better than ans btw
yes
but thats not fuck you
hes just casually fucking your team
not like
FUCK YOUUUUU
hes just chillin
tropic herald
Xzi has fk u energy on Cree
willow tartan
true
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xzi has
tawdry hamlet
I thought gangnamjin would be a top flex support this year, but then they decided to do the funny checkmate thing and ruin everyone on Floridas season loll
willow tartan
xzi cree nasty
tawdry hamlet
Xzi widow has always been insane
earnest leaf
xzi was the best cree in the league at the time when he played
willow tartan
What if shock picked up avast
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slime twilight
earnest leaf
bottom 3 with avast
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lets go
willow tartan
slime twilight sounds not fair
tawdry hamlet
s3 I had the widow list at
Ans
Diem
Xzi
Kai
Decay
Shockwave
idk where carpe fits because he played tracer
north relic
s3 I had the widow list at
Ans
Diem
Xzi
Kai
Decay
Shockwave
you forgot 1v1 na widow champion linkzr
tawdry hamlet
and fits is weird because he popped off at the end
north relic
s3 I had the widow list at
Ans
Diem
Xzi
Kai
Decay
Shockwave
what about happy
tropic herald
Shock should get uhhhh a mainsupport that they don’t bench
tropic herald
fits is insane
earnest leaf
imagine a world with moth and striker on shock with their current roster
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secret playoff weapon
willow tartan
s3 I had the widow list at
Ans
Diem
Xzi
Kai
Decay
Shockwave
diem higher than ans
shockwave above decay
:)
earnest leaf
with junkbuck and ninek coaching
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Fits profit s tier
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Gwangboong is like
tawdry hamlet
at hitting shots
tropic herald
imagine a world with moth and striker on shock with their current roster
brig gap
willow tartan
imagine a world with moth and striker on shock with their current roster
they would run moth on ana and run viol2t on brig
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Pine and Ans hybrid, without the Ans brain
tawdry hamlet
idk about his actual play but purely aim gwangboong is crazy
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yes
willow tartan
flora rookie of the stage
tropic herald
Flora tracer make me feel things
willow tartan
hey guys question
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Seoul's success this season is literally 2 words: profit fits
tawdry hamlet
Flora radiates that pillar piece the team needs energy
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the rest of the roster can lowkey get dropped
willow tartan
can ppl not in the league get mvp/roty?
like what if someone retires right before the season ends
tropic herald
ProFits
willow tartan
but they fucked during the start and mid of the season
tawdry hamlet
gesture this year 
tropic herald
I’m so sad about creative and ToYou
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instead of gesture
sheeeesh
Toyou has been like
okay
I thought he was gonna be A tier honestly
in contenders he was sooo good
willow tartan
the titans have the longest owl win streak?
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Anamo zzzzzz
tropic herald
the titans have the longest owl win streak?
Probably
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I think we could keep toyou
its so sad gesture has been signed to likea few more years
but u kno what actually worth if that meanst hats how we keep profit
just keep gesture perma bench
north relic
its so sad gesture has been signed to likea few more years
he needs to pay for the gold chains somehow
tropic herald
Seoul sign YaHo 
tawdry hamlet
was a shame michelle and aspire only got to show what they can do towards the end of the season
tawdry hamlet
but at the same time decay was literally just jumpshotting pulse bombs into matrix for lols
earnest leaf
Michelle is like solid B-A tier
tawdry hamlet
he wasted 5 bombs right?
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michelle really got perma benched by marve1 on OT
north relic
was a shame michelle and aspire only got to show what they can do towards the en...
michelle gravs 
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Michelle's Dva is like high A
tawdry hamlet
michelle dva yummy
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but just the rest of his tanks
tawdry hamlet
michelle zarya
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kinda bad
tawdry hamlet
not so cash money
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his sig is ok but marve1 sig is b uilt different
north relic
would you rate michelle above space/piggy/gargoyle
earnest leaf
Thinking we're getting s5 
tropic herald
I just need to see proper in OWL and I can die peacefully
tawdry hamlet
I am so excited for my favorite players to retire and my favorite esport to wither away
earnest leaf
Although unless there is a turn around I see more teams going the titans route
just budget rosters
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lowkey though if OWL dies
as long as the OW servers are still live
I think third party tourneys would be pretty legit
they dont cost that much to produce
if its like full online
earnest leaf
yea but scrimbux suck
north relic
scrimbux stonks
forest axle
i cant find the live steam im meant to watch for the points
it just links me to the website in general
do i just watch past broadcasts or something?
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livestream
tawdry hamlet
connect your battlenet account to your youtube account in the settings and then when the games go live this weekend you can watch them on youtube for points
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its not live right now
willow tartan
wait so where is the CC SKIN DAMN IT
supple prism
you had outlaws to beat reign and shock to beat fuel?
north relic
I had a very solid week 1 <:omegalul:471068121092980776>
Around the same for me except I got 6 points for reign glads 😎
hollow bough
waxen timber
Do they still do mvp skins
mortal cipher
people said because of sinatraa nei mvp skin but i hope nto
willow tartan
yeah
i want a LIP sombra mvp skin
or a fleta tracer mvp skin
then again last year they already did dps
the year before that was tank
then s1 was support
we might just get a support mvp again
mortal cipher
so izaki zen lel
willow tartan
nah it cant be zen again
mortal cipher
i mean those just also happened to be the hero that character used the most during that time
willow tartan
ehh
mortal cipher
nah it cant be zen again
it was joke
willow tartan
sinatraa was a dps player tho
mortal cipher
so izaki ana
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omg 2-2
mortal cipher
i voted for fleta on one
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team chasers vs bilibili
mortal cipher
can we get two mvps
wait how
willow tartan
idk covbid
mortal cipher
team chasers vs bilibili
the chat is so much better in contenders
mortal cipher
yeah
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i was playing ow couldnt watch
first time playing in 10 days ngl
fresh
such a pog game
mortal cipher
i was playing earlier
willow tartan
A lip Sombra skin or like a leave tracer skin could be cool
fleta tracer skin 
mortal cipher
tawdry hamlet
I love watching owl but holy fuck I can't stand playing overwatch anymore it's just such a chore to will myself on to play it 
mortal cipher
reaper skin hmmm
tawdry hamlet
I barely play anymore
mortal cipher
have we had a reaper skin for owl ever
willow tartan
mvp is gonna either be leave or fearless calling it now
mortal cipher
but reaper was used in jj the most right
willow tartan
actually lucio was used the most
the lucio/moira shizzle
if you mean in the dps role i think echo was played more
mortal cipher
ah
tawdry hamlet
mortal cipher
lol
mortal cipher
void was in the mvp last year
was that it for shanghai last year fleta and void
or was there another one
willow tartan
It was Alarm carpe Choi Viol2t Cr0ng Eileen Fleta Void Xzi Yaki
earnest leaf
I still think it was criminal viol2t didn't win
He was just straight up the best FS and the only argument against him was him not playing ana
tawdry hamlet
Viol2t or fleta would he my picks if you factor in team impact, team success, individual success, and like just actual fucking ability
earnest leaf
I want to say my picks were Viol2t/Void
tawdry hamlet
Like Xzi was crazy, but Paris was like top 5 most of the season and top once so it's hard to give it to him
willow tartan
hey so apparently you can vote for mvp on social media platforms too
since there is no counter like last year is there a way to check how many votes are going in thru social media platforms?
like is there a sleuth for it
earnest leaf
some guy had a counter for the votes via the owl website
tawdry hamlet
Violet I would vote for because he literally just walked in and made entire fights his without ults he'd just go in Baptiste headshot 3 picks and his team does the rest it was crazy
earnest leaf
earnest leaf
Violet I would vote for because he literally just walked in and made entire figh...
he would take duels with snipers and win
willow tartan
Its fearless and its not even close
earnest leaf
on zen
willow tartan
wtf
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Sparkle doesn't deserve ngl
tawdry hamlet
Profit doesn't deserve it this year at all LOL
willow tartan
how does profit and shu and sparkle and pelican have more votes than lip
im actually boggled
earnest leaf
izayaki is criminally low
barren quest
Why Profit over Fits?
mortal cipher
how does profit and shu and sparkle and pelican have more votes than lip
hype
they hype players too high up imo
earnest leaf
this year my choice is pelican
willow tartan
dont worry guys the chinese fans vote on a different website so their votes arent shown here
tawdry hamlet
Sparkle I would make the case for sparkle that everyone thought him not having a tracer or him being a genji doomfist two trick would fuck his whole team and he just came in and flexed on everyone
earnest leaf
Izayaki as my 2nd
willow tartan
Sparkle I would make the case for sparkle that everyone thought him not having a...
yeah but that doesnt make him objectively better player
a surprise to be sure and a welcome one at that, but not MVP
mortal cipher
last year i remember i went through a bunch of gameplay or a few and then decided on fleta because Shanghai
earnest leaf
I would take fielder over sparkle for mvp
willow tartan
^^^
mortal cipher
same
earnest leaf
I think supports/tanks don't get enough attention for mvp races
willow tartan
remove sparkle, add fielder, remove profit, add void
earnest leaf
DPS is so heavily biased towards
tawdry hamlet
If pelican did more off of echo mei I'd put him over leave fearless but he's third for me
Leave is just too good
earnest leaf
pelican echo is the only reason atlanta got so far in NA
willow tartan
yeah but other echos are better than him
earnest leaf
nah
tawdry hamlet
Leave has an s tier echo and tracer though so it's hard to give it to pelican
willow tartan
you think hes the best echo in the world?
wow
i mean better than sparkle at least
bro istg people overrate sparkle so much
tawdry hamlet
My top echoes are leave pelican fleta yaki 
tawdry hamlet
I mean I don't care for dragons much but even I know fleta is like the pinnacle of echos
willow tartan
honestly id put nero over yaki
tawdry hamlet
He has the MVP echo skin
mortal cipher
but the double tap pharah pelican was insane
willow tartan
leave/fleta/pelican/nero
mortal cipher
yeah
earnest leaf
Fleta was one of the few people to hard force echo last year so he looked the best
tawdry hamlet
Idk yaki had some insane moments
mortal cipher
yeah
earnest leaf
but now that people actually play echo he doesn't look special
tawdry hamlet
In may tbh I thought yaki would be an MVP candidate, that aged poorly
mortal cipher
ive never seen yaki play echo maybe i just suck at paying attention or that its been wot feels like forever since ive seen florida
the air lip sombra emp was insane
tawdry hamlet
Yaki was just so incredible in may and then his whole team just went 
earnest leaf
wait I just thought of a re-build for justice
mortal cipher
yeah
willow tartan
that website is surely not accurate right? no way izayaki only got 370 votes or fearless only got 3,000
thats so little
unless people arent voting
earnest leaf
there's 12k votes atm
mortal cipher
i was struggling to even choose
willow tartan
last time when mvp votes were in people were getting tens of thousands of votes on the first day
i think this website doesnt count it all
earnest leaf
yea they got hard botted 
willow tartan
because the other one was counted by blizzard
mortal cipher
yeah prob
earnest leaf
No they were unironically hard botted
mortal cipher
the other one was also presented by T-Mobile
earnest leaf
they had to reset them or something
willow tartan
Anyway it doesnt matter
OWL coaches will be the one that pick mvp right?
coaches and analysts
mortal cipher
everyone
tawdry hamlet
Voting also just opened today
willow tartan
waiting for fans to wake up
mortal cipher
yeah
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Could see profit and fits as an argument because they literally hard carry every game
Like
It's cracked
willow tartan
profit is a better player than sparkle
gusty rampart
Voted Fearless for MVP
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Split between 2 ppl
gusty rampart
I like Shanghai but it's bullshit Fleta got nominated
earnest leaf
put void in over fleta
tawdry hamlet
But if everyone is so much better than sparkle why is Dallas so good 
tawdry hamlet
Lip got nominated 
willow tartan
But if everyone is so much better than sparkle why is Dallas so good <a:kirby:83...
seoul have gesture
willow tartan
put void in over fleta
or get this, put them both and dont have sprkls in the list
earnest leaf
in terms of mvp sparkle has been more important to dallas than fleta has been to shd
tacit skiff
#WINNABLE
willow tartan
mvp is not relative though
mvp is like "the very best player in the regular season that season"
gusty rampart
Pelican deserves Rookie of the Year on a silver platter
earnest leaf
And I think sparkle has been better than fleta this year 🙂
gusty rampart
Eh
earnest leaf
he has provided more value
willow tartan
value is relative
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Hm
willow tartan
a good player on a bad team can get a lot more value cause they can hard carry
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Actually
willow tartan
like profit
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Pretty good poont
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Pulling out doom in may melee
What has fleta done this season that sparkle can't do
Hm
willow tartan
he trolled sparkle in the jj finals
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Lmao
willow tartan
the boston playoffs run
willow tartan
he was last in the mvp video
tacit skiff
This season is just beginning
gusty rampart
I hope Boston loses their first match and gets KOd
tacit skiff
can't wait to pull out the
gusty rampart
You won't be able to use that ever lmao
Especially last year
2 wins looking headass
Lost to a benched main tank player playing Genji
mortal cipher
Who was the girl speaking in the mvp video btw?
soe
mortal cipher
yeah
gusty rampart
Shock literally just beat Boston nerd
mortal cipher
unless im wrong
willow tartan
she sounds european but its definitely deifnitely not soe
mortal cipher
well soe is swiss so
gusty rampart
Soe is European...
stuck radish
shock beat vancouver
willow tartan
yes thats what im saying
tacit skiff
you don't even understand the big brain plays going on at Uprising HQ
stuck radish
good enough to win the grand finals right
willow tartan
mortal cipher
i might need to listen again
gusty rampart
Cant find it on their YouTube
gusty rampart
I actually don't know
tacit skiff
Boston's been going really soft so they could just squeeze in for playins, then they go undefeated for the rest of the season
gusty rampart
Sounds like Soe but also sounds different
gusty rampart
Boston just fucking sucks
mortal cipher
yeah it sounds diff
willow tartan
Boston's been going really soft so they could just squeeze in for playins, then ...
golden play ins and play offs run
not dropping a single map
gusty rampart
Other teams are succeeding with Echo banned
tacit skiff
other teams aren't Boston 😎
gusty rampart
NYXL beat Dragons with a majority of their mains banned
willow tartan
ehh
mortal cipher
lol
tacit skiff
you say that like the dragons tried
willow tartan
i mean they did better than seoul lol
gusty rampart
Mayhem beat Boston with Lucio and Ashe banned
willow tartan
seoul lost to a dragons team that werent scrimming
mortal cipher
nyxl be like yer not beating our back to back stage win streak
tacit skiff
Florida apologists lmao
willow tartan
they're 0-4 now i think
gusty rampart
Florida had the most unlucky matchups
mortal cipher
florida are out
gusty rampart
Literally had some of the top teams
mortal cipher
Florida had the most unlucky matchups
they rlly did bsoton houston glads yikes
tacit skiff
where's your playins spot
gusty rampart
And still managed to beat Boston
mortal cipher
boston was the only major winnable game
gusty rampart
Reign was a close match
gusty rampart
Boston was tired of "winning" so lost against Titans
tacit skiff
STRATEGIC
gusty rampart
And Mayhem
earnest leaf
just sucks to see players like bqb and yaki not in playoffs
gusty rampart
And Shock
gusty rampart
just sucks to see players like bqb and yaki not in playoffs
Ye it does
tacit skiff
we made playins
off of big brain math plays
willow tartan
silver3 not in playoffs 
tacit skiff
Florida sucked so bad and it went all according to plan
gusty rampart
Blocked
gusty rampart
So was the Titans match?
earnest leaf
boston don't deserve play-ins tho
willow tartan
true
gusty rampart
They don't
willow tartan
fuck boston
tawdry hamlet
Hehe I like how even at their worst shock still have a high winrate in regular season
gusty rampart
Fuck Boston
willow tartan
Hehe I like how even at their worst shock still have a high winrate in regular s...
s1 shock was worse
tacit skiff
Mald more, it gives me energy
gusty rampart
Lose more, gives me energy
mortal cipher
heh
mortal cipher
theyre out so
gusty rampart
Fearless
tacit skiff
vote Leave
mortal cipher
fleta/lip
gusty rampart
Izayaki then
tacit skiff
The answer is Leave
gusty rampart
Fuck the Hunters lol
willow tartan
Fuck the Hunters true
tacit skiff
this man hates any team better than Florida
willow tartan
zen mvp skin when
gusty rampart
Based decision
tacit skiff
zen already has one
gusty rampart
Bro Florida isn't even my favorite team
gusty rampart
No MVP skins anymore sadge
tacit skiff
Give Tracer or Sombra one
gusty rampart
Vote Lip
tacit skiff
Chinese interference in this vote
gusty rampart
LIP did really good during both tournaments
mortal cipher
yeah fr
gusty rampart
I almost voted LIP for the EMP environmental kills
willow tartan
void robbed
tacit skiff
Silver3 robbed
gusty rampart
Shu isn't even the best Flex Support
willow tartan
true
mortal cipher
I almost voted LIP for the EMP environmental kills
insanity
willow tartan
why is shu in
gusty rampart
I'm confused why he's on there
willow tartan
anyways
gusty rampart
He's the outlier
tacit skiff
Sadiators redemption
mortal cipher
izayaki is one of the best supports
willow tartan
true
gusty rampart
Every year I voted Super and I couldn't this year
willow tartan
L
gusty rampart
I may not like Sinatraa for what he did but I respect that they put him on the MVP list
Nero was good this year
tacit skiff
who do we have as roty preds
gusty rampart
The toxic Shock "fans" trashed on him for no reason
gusty rampart
who do we have as roty preds
Pelican.
Pelican.
Pelican.
willow tartan
and shy
tacit skiff
I'm not hearing enough im37
gusty rampart
I think Flora too
willow tartan
im37 is not a rookie
gusty rampart
im37 isn't a rookie
tacit skiff
yeah ik
willow tartan
play ins is post season
tacit skiff
twas a joke
willow tartan
mvp is for regular season
tacit skiff
im37 is ass anyway
gusty rampart
Flora was one of the few good players on NYXL
gusty rampart
Pelican will win roty without a doubt
mortal cipher
yeah
willow tartan
which is why pelican wont win mvp
tacit skiff
silver3 hype
willow tartan
cant be roty and mvp at the same time or fans will mald
gusty rampart
I would've voted Pelican for MVP but I'd rather him get roty
willow tartan
shu will def not get mvp
mortal cipher
atl just go to get 3-niled by apac
willow tartan
watch seoul go uncontested in the countdown cup off the back of profits hard fucking everyone
tacit skiff
lewd
gusty rampart
Seoul is a team I had high expectations for but holy fuck they never met them
Same with Fusion
willow tartan
seoul is like the shock of the east
mortal cipher
fusion is jsut cured
gusty rampart
Fusion is stacked as hell
mortal cipher
cursed
gusty rampart
Imagine losing with Rascal and Carpe
willow tartan
Went to grand finals of last year. Didn't change up their roster much. Did well in regular season. Failed in knockouts
shock was rolled by dallas during a stage knockout just like seoul was rolled by shanghai
gusty rampart
Countdown Cup said fuck you to Pickems
tacit skiff
so playoffs and gf are live in person
is owl going back to full inperson in season 5, which is definitely happening 100%?
willow tartan
Yes.
tacit skiff
America opens up to close back down
willow tartan
Nah they'll just say "fuck it" and get over the whole covid thing
i could see that happening
tacit skiff
"if you die, you die lol, get gud"
gusty rampart
If OWL exists next year
tawdry hamlet
florida and texas and cali should all be fine next season assuming there is one
willow tartan
idk why you guys are saying if there will be
tacit skiff
if owl doesn't exist next year, it's gonna be real sad saying goodbye to these players
gusty rampart
That's hopium speaking
willow tartan
too much money invested in it, Blizzard Activision has butts loads of cash to support it
no
its just realistically
gusty rampart
Lack of Sponsors is killing it
tacit skiff
can't believe owl is disappearing as soon as Shanghai has a victory in sight
so sad
press F
willow tartan
theyve been working on OW2 for years now with who knows how many millions into it
not happening
tawdry hamlet
it is going to go on for sure I just meant the next season is far af away
willow tartan
people are just having a way overreaction of "oh no no sponsors owl is dying!!!"
willow tartan
sponsors are there to cover operation costs yes but its not because they dont have the money to run it themselves
tacit skiff
ow2 is just a $60 patch to Overwatch's servers
fuck that
earnest leaf
America is already opening up
we're actually closing down slowly atm
willow tartan
again?...
earnest leaf
delta variant is tugging at our balls
tacit skiff
ow
willow tartan
how is everyone in the country not vaccinated yet
earnest leaf
good question
tacit skiff
you forgot this is the same country that elected Trump
willow tartan
I thought they got like 100 million people vaccinated in the first few months
did they just decide to stop vacinating people?
tawdry hamlet
blah blah personal liberties blah blah stupid people
earnest leaf
we did insanely well early on
tawdry hamlet
earnest leaf
but rates fell off hard
willow tartan
youre not supposed to stop vaccinating until you get everyone vaccinated
someone please tell mr president that
tacit skiff
mr president can't make you get vaccinated unfortunately
willow tartan
all public areas you have to have proof of vaccination or you get denied entry
tawdry hamlet
Americans all own guns and are obsessed with personal liberties so lots of people will die
idk
it sucks
my country sucks
willow tartan
whether or not you're vaccinated is tied to your identity
tacit skiff
moving to canada
willow tartan
like we have a vaccination database
gusty rampart
You can't force people to get vaccines and people are exploiting that
tacit skiff
like we have a vaccination database
the word database scares americans
willow tartan
its in an app thing that you show that you are vaccinated and if you arent you're not allowed to enter any public areas
gusty rampart
Not very ok tbh
tawdry hamlet
anyway this isn't really esports
gusty rampart
This is lives you're talking about
willow tartan
yes
tacit skiff
people dying is not okay
willow tartan
lets talk about
earnest leaf
the issue isn't strictly american, sucks that it happens everywhere
gusty rampart
Titans win
true hound
shax fucks but London sucks
tacit skiff
I want Xi Xingping to personally administer my vaccine
willow tartan
who on the titans is gonna counter shax
true hound
roolf
willow tartan
shax is gonna get freelo
earnest leaf
dalton is actually decent at tracer
tawdry hamlet
spitfire took blase hybrid over apply and aspire before they knew they were getting shax
true hound
i feel like London will win
willow tartan
Its destiny
gusty rampart
It'll be close
willow tartan
Valiant is the only team that deserves to be winless
at least london has made some games close
gusty rampart
I'm leaning towards Titans
true hound
when London got shock to 3-2 pepelaugh
willow tartan
Besides
gusty rampart
Shock said it was a tactical throw
willow tartan
Vancouver lost to the Washington fucking Justice
tawdry hamlet
shax outclasses and molf outclasses and kellex outclasses I think, but then the rest are even
sparkr outclasses titans as well
willow tartan
Vancouver lost to the Washington fucking Justice
No way London loses to a shitter team like that
tacit skiff
the Valiant will come out of nowhere, replaced the Spitfire when London is down 0-2, and reverse sweep the Titans. It'll count as both teams getting their first win, a piece of eSports history.
willow tartan
lmaoo london valiant tagteam
tawdry hamlet
on paper london is stronger, but recent history has shown the team lagging behind shax while titans actually won something
gusty rampart
If Spitfire goes winless I demand Spitfire vs. Valiant
tacit skiff
900 ping
gusty rampart
Worth
willow tartan
they can do content shoots too
gusty rampart
The real grand finals
tacit skiff
toilet bowl
willow tartan
have it happen coinciding with the grand finals
so ppl can choose to watch either val vs spitfire or gf
gusty rampart
Hard decision
tacit skiff
anyway so
see y'all for the Boston vs Shanghai gf
willow tartan
I want to see the 8 map grand finals reverse sweep
tacit skiff
when Vancouver gets 4-0'd
least entertaining gf ever
so I assume owl is going to split teams into east and west regions again for the foreseeable future
does this mean the Valiant will always play with apac teams?
gusty rampart
Please send Fusion and NYXL back
crisp condor
Who would they send to apac instead? Both eu teams?
willow tartan
fuel and shock
Man, leave has been getting picked off a lot in these fights
maybe he's just not taking this game seriously
candid radish
Chengdus Instagram caption on their post for winning lijang was ‘keep up the good vibes’ like they weren’t excepted to wipe this team
worldly flax
fleta's in the list again? 
willow tartan
yes, fleta my MVP
forest raven
Where tf is the void nom
willow tartan
apparently only 3 players per team allowed
tawdry hamlet
Shu and profit are the only two I'm confused by
willow tartan
shu I don't understand
profit I get
sparkle I don't agree with
neither with pelican
earnest leaf
Who do you pick over them besides shd/dallas players
willow tartan
Fits
tawdry hamlet
Dallas won a tourney with sparkle on their dps line, so it makes sense why he is nominated just like Eileen last year
If Florida didn't have that checkmate phase I could vote yaki 
tawdry hamlet
Fielder over hanbin 
earnest leaf
Not over hanbin
Hanbin has been the silent carry all season
Was insane last year too on paris
willow tartan
vote rush for mvp
willow tartan
one more for the joyride
earnest leaf
3 in na
willow tartan
Four after this one
tawdry hamlet
tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
easiest possible schedule
willow tartan
no
tawdry hamlet
They are second placing again
forest raven
It's Seoul-Philly in knockouts
willow tartan
Chengdu will surpasss philly and get first seed so they fight nyxl
forest raven
And Chengdu vs Spark I think
willow tartan
spark is disqualified
forest raven
Oh
tawdry hamlet
Nyxl bad 
forest raven
NY then
willow tartan
then Seoul vs philly which sucks cause I wanted both teams to go through this stage
tawdry hamlet
Philly pls don't choke you already lost to Seoul this stage
tawdry hamlet
I just find Seouls inability to get good pieces around profits so annoying
willow tartan
molanran has been diffing jinmu this series btw
tawdry hamlet
Gaga monke nano blade ana comp poggers
tawdry hamlet
This is the map philly dropped to them so you never know
willow tartan
They dropped Hollywood too
wait both map wins of the valiant was against the fusion
willow tartan
oh they've got 3 maps?
candid radish
How has profit not got an MVP sling
forest raven
No
They've won 2
They never won hollywood
They won kings against Chengdu and numbani against Philly
willow tartan
they full held philly on Hollywood and as a result they didn't qualify for the June joust
forest raven
That was numbani
willow tartan
no it wasn't
forest raven
Yes it was
willow tartan
what
willow tartan
yeah so did I and I saw Hollywood
forest raven
earnest leaf
So no copium
But
Actually wait
If both shock and glads are tied record and map score, who wins tiebreaker?
forest raven
Well
I don't think Shock's match against Toronto is gonna have the same outcome as Glads' match against Outlaws
earnest leaf
If shock 3-0 and glads 3-1, glads are behind one map
Which would let shock play the winner of toronto vs paris
willow tartan
They play a tiebreaker off stream
earnest leaf
And if they get this outcome, hawaii should be free
forest raven
I expect a 3-1 for Shock
forest raven
Even if Shock do manage to make it to Hawaii I'd expect their whacky rein and omega slow mccree comps to get dumpstered
willow tartan
Am I getting baited why is Krystal on genji
earnest leaf
Even if Shock do manage to make it to Hawaii I'd expect their whacky rein and om...
Issue is those comps only work if ans/nero pop off
Ok fuck I need to sleep it's 5am
forest raven
And the Valiant are officially dead
sullen berry
