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or for echo since shock's echo was cracked as well
shockwave/rascal are the echo players I think
ya
Philly win like every recontest
it is so fun to watch
they just walk on
kill
win
Philly vs Atlanta Finals 
Ew
if philly wins against seoul what seed do they have in APAC
Chengdu Philly finals
1/2
Depends on how well Chengdu does
Probably 2 though
Since cdh has easy schedule
can we get a kill count for alarm that map?
and that means cdh 1 philly 2 shd 3?
how many final blows
depending on how hunters vs ny goes
In order for Shanghai to qualify, Seoul need to get swept or nyxl need to get swept
That is the requirement
and is that overall standing then or just ccup
Cccup
CC
kk
overall standings is dragons #1 and then seoul philly and chengdu fighting for #2
yeppers
if both seoul and nyxl get swept then it's a 3 way tie
how will they deal with that good question
If Philly wins this match 3-0 then Philly will be 2nd in APAC overall
Until Chengdu plays the rest of their games
Yeah
mhm
I like how the Philadelphia poster is literally just carpe
its just a poor jj and ss
If Philly wins this series then 8 of their 11 wins is from 2 stages 
isn't this the second day DoA just vanished
He was kidnapped
doing well in 2 out of the 4 stages is alright
I hope Shanghai makes it to knockouts and Philly loses to them again
I wish widow was viable again
it's goddang havana attack and there's still no widow
Hotba plays more like a support than alarm
u know thinking about the recent blizzard drama makes me wonder if Jeff Kaplan left because of it
you know this is eSports discussion and I'm bored of hearing Jeff Kaplan conspiracy theories
can we please watch the game
someone tried to frame Jeff as one of many responsible for letting it happen, being in the WoW spheres before Overwatch
that person didn't have any evidence and just deleted their tweet
good dragon
lmao its so funny seeing the ridiculous peel for alarm and then see creative get next to nothing
Best fs in the world
I thought that one was on purpose to reset since 2 of them had already died
also seoul are getting fucking rolled lmao
gesture feelsbad
is shock playing this week
yes against fuel

anyone else
no?
Boston
wait they play two matches this week?
wait
what day are we on
arent we on day 3 already
two matches in 1 day?
Are you dumb
i have no sense of time
They aren't playing this week
what year is this???
lol profit should've held pulse for grav
niceu
Seoul is getting omega fucked
lmao that dva movement
Seoul hasn't gotten a point yet 
majestic
is this Philly's time to shine finally??
breadsticks
i just dont want to play dragons in knockouts
Is Alarm/Astro the best support duo in the league, if not who is
izayaki/leejaegon ๐
i am not biased
izayaki > alarm
viol2t/moth where ๐ญ
Izayaki/LJG is better
it is debatable as Chengdu Philly Dragons and Dallas all contend 
viol2t moth isnt a thing anymore
ik sadly 
I've been really impressed with Jecse/Fielder but yeah I think you can make an argument for SHD, PHI or DAL's supports
izayaki / ljg prob
izayaki / ljg is the only support line that can be argued to be better then alarm/astro, its very close
dragons supports are just godly
all around though it is likely Izayaki Ljg but I prefer alarm 
they also have molly :)
People call Jecse bad but he isn't, I think people just look at the mega talent of the rest of the roster and see Jecse isn't the same absolute ass blaster like them or another MS like LJG and decide he's bad
I think Fielder's Ana is better than Alarm but Alarm's Zen is better, their Bap seem close
izayaki best zen
^
agreed, people think Jecse is Dallas's weak link but tbh, they don't really have a weak link
guys how about highbee wya ๐ ๐
their weak link is pine
Right now the ball comp as a whole is their weak link
wya is actually decent
he's had some good moments
valiant are just questionable
but yeah he's on a tragic team
I wish NvM would get playtime
so he looks worse
philly throwing so Shanghai don't qualify to the knockouts
cause map diff
fair
ok Seoul have finally turned up in this series
It's kinda sad that there are three whole teams in the league that actively don't care about having a good team

isnt spitfire improving
C9 has tried to sell their spot before
wonder if this Zarya/Ball is going to be the meta in CC finals
i havent watched spitfire in a bit
Titans management has been trash since day 1 just nobody saw it because RunAway were so good in goats
reign v dallas will be interesting
And IGC is actively removing themselves from all esports
spitfire isn't really improving shax is just leaning forward, hadi ripa kellex still look like shit 
London is Shax, SparkR, and Molf1g doing their best
man im rooting for the shock still
Hadi is drunk and their backline is just there for the money
ripa just has an average life expectancy based on whether or not a team fight has begun
if he's eliminated
bahaha
there's probably a teamfight
what was that

The failing to touch continues

who is best ball in ur guys opinion
fate/gaga
your boy silver3 ๐
lowkey silver3 can be good
fate has more coordinated dives imo, but that could be a team dif
Mano has looked really clean today
Daan is also underrated alongside yakpung, but they make enough mistakes it is cringe material when you watch how they die
yakpung would die to carpe who keeps baiting him into eqo's hack
even fleta's ass on ilios once cornered yakpung to his death
does super play ball
yes
super ball good?
not as bad as expected
decent enough to be worth putting him in over Smurf
If you plan on playing the orisa on other maps
super's ball is good
People see funny haha streamer man known for reinhardt and assume he's a one trick
definitely one of the better balls in NAA
I said the whole time super had a good ball and everyone made fun of me for it
streamer gets shredded as orisa walking out of spawn (gone wrong)

spawn simulator


philly choke W
Shanghai is dead
Oh
fusion sandbagging zzz
is nyxl doing good
Probs not gonna happen after Chengdu dropped a map to Charge
what a map
kallios looks to be doing nice
eqo choked emp
same for flora
hopium

Chengdu was just trolling
2-1
who loses to nyxl right guys?
lol no
hahaha shd
for being a widow specialist carpe doesn't play a lot of widow
only bad teams lose to nyxl thrice in a season
since when is carpe a widow specialist
Since he was signed in season 1
hasn'the always been a widow/tracer player
Carpe plays hard hitscan hanzo and tracer
philly was very near that 
And has a pocket torb
kings row next
kings row is amazing map
finally color
Fusion dropped the Volskya intentionally to piss off Dragons fans and to play Kings Row
lol
Fusion dropped a map intentionally because they didn't wanna lose to them in the knockouts***
good
I know exactly how you feel bud
Fusion dropped a map intentionally because they want to give the Dragons a well earned break from getting 3-0โd****
NineK is a gentleman
it would be their best interest since they're already locked for 1, better to get rid of the ppl in competition for 2nd place
double bubble on Kings defence, odd
When is Seoul not odd?
wait does the badge thing on their name mean rolestar?
Ye
MVPs, rotys and championship winners should get their own too
man widow is just not meta anymore huh
gesture literally blown up
anyone elses stream lagging?
yes, it was doing it for me yesterday as well
Ye
HUGGEE
prfot clutched that bro
Reverse sweep 
ngl does anyone else find sombra incredibly boring
Yeah she sucks
I mean it's better than sombra/reaper which was 50% of previous season
I love Sombra compositions
but still
but I'm biased because I love playing sombra
lol eqo wtf
he decloaked in front of a brig
wow
lol
wtf lol
Reverse sweep 
Reverse sweep ๐ช
great match
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eqo is playing so badly all of a sudden
reverse sweep 
yeah that was awful of eqo
runs into the enemy team with no backup
uncloaks infront of brig
eqo unlucky
that wasnt unlucky
On attack he got dinked, on defense, he threw
that was just really poorly played
bad day
Iconic matchup after the Fuel vs Dallas
Dallas vs fuel :)
Los Angeles vs Los Angeles 
yeah, the fans fighting amongst themselves 
time for fusion to choke
Seoul always goes 3-1, such is the prophecy
they can't lose
God wills it
they literally choked the last two maps, more like its time for fusion to pass out from the choking
who do yall think are gonna win
i think Dynasty wins too
momentum is big
we lost nepal against hangzhou
welp
jeez
i cant do this
CMON SEOUL
i hope this goes to 1-1 on nepal
the Philadelphia choke classic
increase the tension
Let's go Seoul!!
the CPC: The Classic Philly Choke
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the only one u see in the kill feed is alarm
ggs
depends how fusion use ults
This emp has to be big
Danny summing up washington fans 
uh both teams just emp'd
lmao
SEOUL
there it goes
ggs
Oh
fusion fan's last hope
Philly has double support ults
shattered
LOL
the C9
Danny Danny Lim Lim?
that is actually disgusting lmao
Philly
the emotional trauma your average fusion fan has
LET'S GOOOOO

Get fucked
PHILLY GOT REVERSE SWEPT
gotta be PTSD levels at this point
pain
TODAY IS A GOOD DAY
eh 3-1 is fine 
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
I can't even bully sans about it because he's used to disappointment
Haha
oh I know, Shock are going to lose in Knockouts, I meant at least they are going to Hawaii 
๐ค
Fusion will make Hawaii 
yes
Canโt make me sad when Iโm already sad ๐
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I hope Philly throw against NY in knockouts
Washington and LAG both blew mega opportunities if they don't get through a single round of knockouts
Well Washington have already done that
They made play ins
ew gesture got player of the match 
okay now I'm rooting for chengdu to sweep NYXL :)
Gesture feeds a lot I have noticed
Drop 1 map Chengdu 

Chengdu pls don't throw
who is next gz? or LAV
Philly sandbagged and ended up getting reverse swept
I don't remember
ah yes
Then SHD VS GZC
the other bad team

Chengdu vs New York is like Philly vs New York, lowkey sleeper af
since they just go back and forth
Next week will just be Chengdu beating the bad teams...
HOW
Seoul will beat philly in knockouts
seoul get second place in season 3 and say ok we are going to make absolutely 0 improvements to the roster ez claps
Houston Outlaws suck
instead of tobi
Just thought Iโd make that statement good day to all of you
Fusion didnโt sandbag I donโt use copium they choked itโs simpler than water being a liquid
lmaoo
water is not a liquid
No bro
Water is the liquid state of H2O 
so what do you call the meta state of water?
Water is liquid idiot
ask plato
idk who that is
its not just liquid
But he sounds dumb
So are shanghai out of cc?
and Chengdu flops with the easiest possible schedule on the region?
valiant breadsticks
I love nyxl. But this shit might be hard to watch

Chengdu let's goooo
Anti Air bombs 
man they are really marking gb
Jjonak actually winning a duel with a support who would have thought sheesh
Nisha Mmonk Yveltal is just so good for a backline I am enjoying it
Jjonak dead again ha
Chengdu meme

Chengdu
focus fire moment
of course
That point looked like it was supposed to be flipped
Chengdu throwing one map moment

Mmonk is just Jjonak with a 40 inch vertical
Flora is absolutely pounding
Shanghai is dead

together
Why are they winning against hunters so well. I love that there winning but hunters come on. ITS BALL META
its the burnout guys i swear 
it's them preventing the burnout***
fr tho i hope they know what theyre doing
that and also not revealing strats
cus we're in playoffs alreayd :D
nyxl nice team
they know what they're doing
I trust the Shanghai coaching staff
if they could win the june joust they can win anything
(except hog meta)
back to back tourney winners baby ๐ช 
Shanghai can still get in if Chengdu loses to nyxl/Hangzhou/valiant 

has someone done the point math? whats actually required for SHD to qualify
no so like yes
The only way Shanghai gets in now is if chengdu shits the bed
They're the only one with matches left of the top 4
aight
I am a NYXL fan for today :)


wooo let's go new york
Ever Upward babyyyy
ever upwar
Yveltal Tobi and Moth are the greatest Mercy's of all time 
im sad SHD little motto thing isnt Roar Red
Dragons roar, red because, yknow
but noo, Break Through
and because of how generic it is we dont get the twitter hashtag
Lmao #roarred

At least it isn't #ShocktheWorld
^^^

thats not that bad

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shock the world
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Lmaoo Texas Hard
Ante Up yeah
It's ante up now yeah lmao
they realised
It was Texas Hard in the beginning
wtf does Texas hard even mean


Text us "Hard" at xxxx-xxxx
Burn Blue is a good one
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NYXL might have the best motto
"Let it Reign"
Now if only they could win
coca cola summer showdown tournament
yeah justice is low hanging fruit but its a good one
So we could say their motto
what about the valiant
Wings Out

Paris "Paris Eternal" Eternal
Eternal dont have one kek

Eternal's is Fiat Lux isn't it
Yeah
Fiat lux is a shanghai dragons academy team
kalios

almost another Dva bomb 5k on rialto
Void do be record setting
waiting for the eventual 6k dva bomb
Chengdu really threw a map just to fuck Shanghai lmaoo
Ever Upward!!!!
Tbh if they hadn't miscommunicated and switched their comp they'd have won first map
When they beat Philly
Seoul's always lost to Shanghai
Yeah that's called being consistent
???
But beating Philly broke their consistency because the last time they played Philly beat them
Broken game
if yveltal didnt have that shield that wouldve been a 5k
something something nerf brig harder
gb v leave
widow diff question mark
Dragons aren't out yet
Chengdu can lose to NYXL or Hangzhou or Valiant
chengdu need to shit the bed
Chengdu likely win at least two of those games
2-2 winnable for Shanghai
Map diff
Chances are if they win 1 map vs NYXL theyโre gonna beat Valiant 3-0 and thereโs no universe where Hunters get swept by Spark
Remember when new york qualified because valiant full held fusion?
valiant can sweep Chengdu :)

Chengdu hopium
Shanghai can still qualify since Chengdu dropped a map to Guangzhou ๐

have the nyxl improved or have the other apac teams just not performed to expectations
I mean like they beat Shanghai
and they seem to be able to go head to head with Chengdu
Shanghai already said they are taking a break
Chengdu sandbagged round 1
but nyxl have definitely gotten better
flora been cracked
New assistant coach
New off tank that isnโt bottom 5
Pretty sweet
Only so much Undine can do to prevent the ruin of Whynot and IMT
But itโs an improvement
anti Chengdu fan
damn my stream is so far behind
refresh time
YO
RIP LEAVE
what's with Chengdu dps and genji
leave is an amazing genji
winnable winnable
what are you on
true
evee upard!
WOOHOO

nyxl hopium
yep
winnable if valiant takes a map against Chengdu
valiant hopium

Looks like you're a silver 3 fan now

silver3 is goated
It's the perfect meta for valiant
y'all sleeping on the future #1 mt
Silver3 speaking Chinese into the mic would probably still take more maps than London with Hadi just saying

?
Silver 3 ball, showcheng dva, molanran tracer, krystal sombra, wya zen, highbee brig
if valiant win a map, it'll be control
Control is the only real shot a lot of shit teams have at taking maps
2-1 yikers NYXL
Shanghai can still get in if they 4-0 Guangzhou
Imagine London with Silver3 comming in Chinese 
4-0?
yes
"Perfect meta for Valiant"
owl change ruleset and play another map
ecks dee
They're weaker at the start of the stage don't worry

they'll pick up later
Currently Inhaling more than a hog one trick in gm sheesh
God I want Vancouver to beat Justice
Justice going 0-4 kek
They were such a disappointment this season
I'm all up for a tiebreaker
Shanghai tiebreaker 
pls no
just win normally
holy i havent heard Guangzhou Charge mentioned in a while
i forgot they were a team
if it comes down to a tie breaker Shanghai will unironically forfeit the match
it's time to accept our Philidelphia overlords
Shanghai fans are so boring

better than Houston fans
texas hard baby
I'd literally prefer any other team to win the GF apart from Shanghai
shock fans blaming Nero for losses
STOP CHENGDU
Nero being the best person on the shock
UR MEANT TO LOSE
atlanta winning ๐
valiant winning GF
Atlanta's gonna crash and burn dw
bet
nah playoffs patch is gonna be torbjorn meta and Boston wins off the back of valentine
like boston the whole season lmao
is the stream lagging or just me? kept freezing for half a second
losing to titans is the cherry on the cake
Boston isn't making it in the playoffs, it's time to accept our fate
whatever the playoffs patch is gonna be
good
we had to win against Vancouver
and we couldn't even do that
even if we 3-0 Florida, wed only be +1
SMH buffering
we'd have to rely on other teams taking Ls
yeah okay its not just me
cus my wifi is good i'd be surprised if i were lagging
Bow and Log, my favourite weapon
Leave deserves potm
Nyxl masters of choking
gg
the nyxl experience continues
alright guys Shanghai can still get in if Chengdu loses to Valiant and Hangzhou or if tiebreaker
ggs

a lot of things have to go right
reminds me when the shock needed the glads to take a single map
against Washington
chengdu losing to valiant is VERY unlikely
I stan silver3
silver3 rookie of the year
3-0 Shanghai
new york has 0 map differential
how is it jinmu
shanghai sweeps guangzhou and they play a tiebreaker i think
since right now shanghai is -3
production
not IBM Watson, that's for sure
0% direct accuracy
LOL
brought to you by IBM Watson, the Official Statistics and AI partner of the Overwatch League
Watson is too smart to choose Jinmu over Leave
i hope nyxl picks up a better main tank this off season
HAHAHAHAHAH WHAT
they should sign Silver3
SICK ONE PRODUCTION
bet he's gonna need a new team
Chengdu is +4
Guangzhou Charge are a team??????
a lot of other teams you should be asking that to
how else are other teams going to make sure they qualify?
LOL
break through!!!
Ever Upwards amirite 
owl players can play like 7 matches a day and feel fine but when I play one overwatch match I want to throw my setup outside my window
after a string of losses I could get physically ill ๐คข
any amount of toxicity will start to get to you
thats why ur not a pro 
that's why I'm a masters scrub
that's not the valiant
And 3-0 sweeps the Dragons
new york is +0 differential
Shanghai is -3
winnable
Not really
losable
Chengdu needs to lose 4 maps
not likely
Because NYXL won in that head-to-head they get placed above Dragons in an equal map diff scenario
oo
Develop and who?
WhoRU
Anyway I am going to wash my dishes like a good boy
pressure is up for shanghai
Let's go dwagons!!
fusion fans are all the same smh
@ me if Charge won a map
???
standard start?
sad
i wanna see the bench players
but LETS GO DRAGONS WOO
Aw thanks man means a lot
Why is there pressure on SHD? They dont want to go to CC
Shanghai pulling out the squad
for yesterday's map
Yea it would put both NY and Shanghai in
^ ^ @hot onyx
it's for pride, we're just joking
yep
Big up
playoffs secured, why bother
Chengdu just needs to give the winless team a win and lose to the spark
Says the Shanghai fans, desperately wanting the tournie 3peat.
Any sensible SHD fan wants them to not bother going CC and to just chill before the playoffs meta starts
You're talking to Shanghai fans
Any sensible SHD fan knows that it doesn't matter because Blizzard will fuck them with a busted playoffs patch
all top teams lose and grand finals is vancouver and Guangzhou
Honestly SHD look like one of the teams that are most flexible that any meta will work for them imo
bastion becomes meta :)
yeah they do
I'd be more worried for Dallas being screwed by a playoff meta. Imagine if it goes hitscan
I have a lot of hope in their coaching staff to make the right decision come playoffs time
lol pause?
I thought Pine was finally on his way to the States
With 0 synergy, no proper pro play for 3 years, and no clue if he's actually any good
LETS GO CHARGE!1!1!1!1!
god fucking dammit
yessir easy fight win
legssssssssss
i spotted a wild Valiant fan
LOL
hey whenever Shanghai wins can one of you guys put the "X fans celebrating win against bottom tier team"
I'm shadow banned in the owl live chat sry
wait why lmfao
!drops
nice
!drops
!drops
!drops
!drops
I love when Doom gets played in owl
as a DF player, same
what ChipSa missed
nice
nice
nice
does lip or fleta play the df
yes
nice
sbb > flora obv
okay fleta enough funny business on the legs
little too much trolling
Fleta just wants to have fun, let him lock the legs
Chinese twitter when sbb says the word Taiwan
guys can someone explain to me why soldier is meta in both NA and APAC
I don't understand
Because Ashe is banned ๐
steriods go brrr
yes but like what do you need it for
I have a feeling solider is gonna be meta after this newest patch gets used
if you know the enemy isn't gonna pharah
oh absolutely
tbh maybe
hes strong now, the damage buffs are crazy
long range poke, flanking potential and the heal is a nice bonus
I've seen 100% more Soldier mains in the past couple of days than in the past 5 years




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