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I know we're trash, that's the difference
its at the bottom
Season 5 hopium
If Ratlanta goes to Hawaii again Hawk's gonna write on dissertation on the unfairness in the league
Mans is gonna get a doctorate in babyrage
Wait for the day boston wins against valiant and he gets a ego boost.
we are going to need hopium because he need to hope for season 5 to happen in the first place
is the ATL fan talking about ego lmao
well atleast hes in a position to do that. cant complain if u dont achieve anything
win a match against a good team sometime
lmao
Sir
Win a match against a BAD team sometime
We have twice
we beat 90% of the league
The Shock boys don't put up 18 twitter posts about losing. They say gg and go next
Carpe please stop playing hanzo
Where's the other 10%
Mccree is a good hero
Don't forget the owners of the Zone
Nah
we didnt play them yet
Ratlanta was so bad in the summer showdown they never even got to play Chengdu
Yeah ik that
but if Dallas got destroyed by Chengdu twice
and you can't even beat Dallas
good luck
I mean yeah obviously
obv
Chengdu would poo all over Ratlanta
still didnt play them
All three of those teams would
mano nice
well if you get pood on by atlanta how bad do u have to be? xDD
Sadiators waiting for their turn to do something
Houston's been such a big disappointment this season
which is weird because they were bottom of the barrel last season
only ahead of Boston
yet losing to Boston in the toilet bowl
how did houston dissapoint???
I'm pretty sure Avast put a curse on Boston when he left at the end of season 1
How has Houston not disappointed
Boston was cursed after Crusty and Striker left
i had them top 5
n
They didn't make it to a tourney but bottom 3 to top 6 with a rookie squad is a big improvement. If we go by the haven't made knockouts or a tourney then tons of teams were a disappointment. Look at Seoul
Idk I mean obviously they could do better but their far from disappointing considering they were rated lower than London
Houston losing seriously winnable games, and losing them hard
I'm glad they've been able to beat the tough teams though
tbf
They took Boston for granted bcuz they wanted to focus on Dallas, and it cost them the Summer Showdown
I want Houston to do good, but there's problems they need to address
seoul lost to chengdu in mm
Yeah I just remembered

Chengdu is goated
nope
Hmm
I want Florida x factor surprise dub
They're really the only unknown in this tourney
Florida has a somewhat tough schedule
They could pull off wins against Boston and Houston if both teams find ways to suck again
Washington's gonna get the 0-2 boost
And then ATL shouldn't have trouble
I guess it depends on how oge is
I'm 99% sure he'll play, but if Checkmate is in its 0-4 again
Massive emp
The aggressive play mmmm
They burning the clock hard
Good shit no way
Philly look real fucking good right now I'm gonna be honest
Philly eyeing the knockouts
If Seoul beats Shanghai today
another huge emp
Seoul-Philly probably gonna be the best game of the qualifiers
EQO ALARM AND ASTRO FUCKING CARRY BRO
wow, Philly looks like a different team
They're playing every engagement perfectly but I swear to God they're gonna lose to someone like Seoul
In knockouts

okay now use shockwave and I'll be happy
If philly make a tournament this month I will actually go get a job 
I bet Shanghai will beat them just so they remember their place in playoffs

Philly my future employment depends on you
Vicky hard carry the cast for a entire minute
That’s my pred out of the water and I’m not complaining
i always pred against philly
that way
if im right and philly loses
i get the pred right
Real shame Shanghai hasn't taken this tournament seriously, they could've made a record with the threepeat
and if the pred is wrong then philly win
who's the nyxl's next match against
Hunters
has philly losty a map yet?
Chengdu got set up with an easy schedule this tournament
like in cc cup
Yeah they need hopium almost as much as they need a new main tank
yeah they lost 1 map to hangzhou
Yes they lost a map vs Spark
I c I c
wot
I see I see
Maybe people will stop fucking underrating funnyastro because of fusions failures he was literally top 3 main support last year and people called him a Lucio one trick this year 

Yeah I know but the expectations of the season
oof
It's a sad day when Philly is winning 
honestly
I'm happy Philly is doing well
alarms anti nades are so good man
it brings me back to the Philly-Shock rivalry
The only time Philly won that was in a regular season game that didn't matter
True
Watching a Shock and Philly game was always a treat
there's a possibility we could get one in the coming weeks
maybe
Shock's definitely going 3-1 this stage
that would be fun
Shock hopium
I'm really surprised by how reluctant Shanghai is to take this tournament seriously
fsup diff
ALARM WHAT THE FUCK
Burnout is serious
HOLY SHIT
How could a team be burnt out after winning three tournaments back to back? That would be a league record
They could finally overcome the NYXL tie
You realise what you just said right?
nah that's in your head
Personally, I don't understand why anyone would want to ruin a 7 game win streak like that
it makes no sense
fusions expectations are molded by public opinion of xfinity, America's fastest internet provider
Shanghai are the best team and more
Getting fucked by burnout will fuck you for the long run
These are people not robots. they’re going to be burned out sooner or later
Giving the players a break now when their number 1 seed is already secure means they can go full tilt when playoffs start

3-0verwatch
Yakpung baited that hard
you know for a season where carpe isn't going to be nominated for season MVP
he's still tops the throne of the DPS crop for four years - that's dope
Oh to be a fusion fan 💔
reverse sweep incoming
Yeah yeah going in individually so they can get easily picked off is a great idea
Reverse sweep
it's like you picked up the Philly Season 1 script and rewrote it to give them an L
num🅱️ani oh yeah
i predicted philly to go 2-2 and miss knockouts
missing knockouts? That's a hot take
yes
It’s Fusion this is why you never get your hopes up
ok then alarm
look at this beauty
😦
repeat
kalios is so good
Jjonak has simultaneously been a great piece and an awful piece to the nyxl lmao
This season I mean
flora is cracked

For fuck sake philly just love the nano blade on numbani attack they always play it
Carpe 
Ugh yucky
😦
jonak is so shit
WE CAPPED NUMBANI A !!!!!!!!!!!!
Washy Washy Nak man
I don't want to shit on him because it's jjonak but he has been the weakest point after yakpung 
Mmm kalios tracking
Kalios Tracking makes me happy 😁
It's so smooth
I love zarya tracking because it's just so smooth
Especially high sensitivity zaryas that only play tracking heroes like emongg on 400 18.75 has some nice smooth tracking
WHAT WAS FBAT
Holy fuck
ALAAARRMMMMMMM
God damn
BROOOO
drop him aswell
That was way to close for comfort
A DUB THATS WHAT
Unlike his counter last season Violet, Alarm hasn't regressed 
SHEESH
oh my god
fusion bout to give me a heart attack
what was the grav whiff from hotba
i can see why hed try to grav there
but
still
Hotba player of the match two times in a row?
alarm robbed
Dude hotba going hard
kalios diffed hotba
kalios deserves a better main tank ngl
Kalios is far better than I expected. Bianca had gotten even worse than last year
and fsup
so fusion 3-0 matches 9-2 in maps
not bad....
fusion fans reaching critical levels of hopium rn
Alarm held his transcendence for OW2 and they still won
He held it on purpose to save the day 
cause feather didnt emp
he held the trans hostage
valid strat
the trans was clutch
alarm should of gotten potm
Fair
remember when ppl were shitting on Hotba
coaching diff yikes
Imt 
who’s the best ana in the league?
jjonak is good honestly i think he's just being held back
By what
itll be one of those 3, depending on who you ask
Jjonak has the positioning of a semi truck navigating through inner city New York this year and it's unfortunate because he's one of my favorite players 
Wait When did achilios grab a pizza that was at his door mid cast lmao that's dope
wait how is seoul 11-3 and shanghai 10-4
I thought seoul didn't have that good of a season at all
seoul is actually doing the best in APAC the hell
Has it really only been 3 losses because I swear we've made fun of gesture a lot
Hmm
theyve lost 6 times in total
because they lost in every knockout match
Mmm apac vibes hit different
Always feels so chill and cozy with the casters rather than like wild and hype and official
Bold prediction: Dynasty win convincingly
Maybe that's just because it's 4am for me omegalul
3-2 dragons is what I have iirc
ohh shit it just dawned on me that it's dragons vs seoul
redemption time for the dragons???
the fact that dragons is still 10-4 is crazy
means they were 10-2 before countdown cup
if youre a fusion fan pray for 3-2 dragons
I'm only a fusion fan if shockwave plays
Toyou loll
lmao
Wait
So Seoul double hitscan can actually counter pharah
Pharah is barely meta in apac besides Shanghai rn
So what even is the meta for tourney
SHD have openly said they aren't trying much in CC because they dont need to. They can then recharge ready for grand finals
Boop 
wondering if they at least wanna get into the countdown cup yknow?
yeah theyre insanely ahead, but if they keep losing like this everyone else can catch up
yeah this CC means nothing at all for their overall #1 seed
So better for them to take a break, scrim less, not put too much effort into a meta that goes away in 3 weeks
wooooo
omegalul imagine being held for 5 minutes by a Shanghai team that isnt scrimming
seoul habits die hard
I really hope S4 grand finals are epic. I can't see there being a S5 at the moment unless OW2 launches pretty soon
they will be
I bet season 5 will be a transitional season
This lack of sponsors is going to be really bad for OWL
2018, 2019, 2020, all stupid playoffs patches
yeah it'll be this Genji/Doom/Hog patch on experimental probably
I will kill myself if hog becomes meta again like last year
All the casters/production team seem pretty down the past week, as if they've been given some bad news about another season
I don’t think the talent knows much about ye future of owl
"damn... I gotta work for another season?"
Other then that it’s not going to be great
Hex is part of the overall production and his post seemed pretty bad
THE hex?
Hex would have more idea what’s going on then the other talent so yeah that checks out
kiwi himself colour "Chex" hex?
It's a test of character and principle to dig deep and work hard for your colleagues and yourself when it seems everything is falling apart around you.
That's what I'm telling myself, because I have to, and because I believe it.
709
oh
I guess the problem is they'd probably be already planning for a S5 now, and if the sponsorship money has gone, do you take the risk that some will return, or have to assume you wont have that money
guys what if eSports discussion becomes an OWL sponsor
LIPs tracking
we can pool money together and have our discord tags on the owl page
void kind of feed
Fairly sure OWL Sponsorship costs literal millions.
LIP blunder sadge
I have £10 and a PS3
I can sell my dog to j spec
Huge
There's like 20 active chatters in this channel divided by 20 mil buy in ez we just need 1 million dollars a person and we got ourselves a team
dude we're never gonna sign players
How do you expect eSports discussion to agree on who is a good player when people still say that nero is shit
^

profits/flip DPS lineup
The story line I want to see for grand finals, doom meta, Paris sign Chipsa and win the S4 championship over Philly
Chipsa destroys sparkle in the semi final, then in the final he comes in and dominates Carpe, tells him to sit in chat every time, and wins MVP
its easy, just make a team filled with awful or washed players like fate, leave, linkzr, y'know the drill, all those really bad players playing on bad teams
exactly my point, you phrased it beautifully
fate and leave arent washed
Who said that 
right above
fate/fearless/void tank line when
above chipsa ans
I'm 99% sure it was sarcasm (or I hope so)
combine them all together to become the super tank for ow2
too many riches for a one tank game
fate controls movement, fearless controls primary and void controls abilities
TRI split overwatch
oh you mean like the thing where one person plays mouse and one plays keyboard
except its virtual
wonder if three players practicing to control a character together would be able to get better than one player
no lol
c9 giveth, c9 taketh away
Seoul just keeping the Shang9 Karma is perfect balance
C9 lmao
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
exciting match
It's the Seoul 3-1 rule. They have to lose one game
One can't always win 🥲 
One cannot survive on wins alone.
😩
😄
I'm quite surprised seeing Torb being played a bit
wait why is gesture playing
Gesture's been playing the entire stage
i havent been watching seoul games
Gesture is the better ball
I skipped last year but seems quite the roster change
Fleta used to play for Dynasty
Quite the backstab😩
Last I watched was 2019
anamo is the only change i think
was toyou in last year
Why can't Dragons play like back in 2018 :(
what ahaha
they did when they lost to nyxl
Yeah kinda
If Seoul lose then they'd be staying one of the most consistent teams in the league
^^^
they're more consistent than valiant
and that's saying something
can someone explain to me why the legs over the tracer here
I just don't get it...
ahahaha
Ay yo Profit?
profit thinking he's good enough to challenge a high noon
let me rant about spitfire i mean even titans got their win holy crap
Shanghai can still qualify for the countdown cup

Seoul Mr. Consistent
Nice one
Win 3 matches, lose to dragons every stage
This soul team gonna give me a Headache
Seoul losing to a team that hasn't even made any effort at scrims/meta
seoulmegalol
what has to happen for Shanghai to qualify
idk
Uhhh
But I think if they lost to Seoul 3-1 they would have been elimated
cause they will sweep Guangzhou for sure
Firstly let’s assume they 3-0 Charge
yeah
SHD are probably going to struggle as their map diff is going ot be bad
Chengdu has to shit the bed
why Chengdu?
Chengdu has the easiest SoS this stage
what if Seoul gets swept by philly
Ez 4-0 for them
Map diff
wait who won
Lemme math real quick
Seoul get swept by Fusion they’re at a +0 map diff
Wait no
Yeah
SHD need Philly to win everything basically
dragons 3-0 they're at a +0 map diff
what's the bracket calculator website thingy again
I keep forgetting it
Seoul hey swept by Fusion and Dragons 3-0 Charge they get past Seoul on a tie breaker since they won the head to head
That and New York lose 3-0 to Hunters
Chengdu is probably the key one. If Chengdu can go 4-0 or 3-1 this stage it's game over for SHD
I mean for the CC
no
chengdu lost to fusion last week right?
CC is basically a race for 4th spot between NYXL and SHD at the moment. SHD would need to 3-0 and hope NYXL lose by at least 2 maps I think if my maths is right
long time no see
question: how many tokens do you earn when watching owl live matches? 5 tokens per match or per 2hrs?
5 per hour
better spitfire next season
Its either seoul needs to get swept by philly or nyxl loses by at least 2 maps by chengdu
so
philly and chengdu gonna sandbag
why have so many people lost their color? what happenend?
we not cool anymore
would mean i'd earn around 100 tokens when watching 20hrs of owl live matches?
yes
honestly true

shanghai doesnt need the bonus wins
he knows too much
they have a huge payroll so the players dont need the cash prize
ok, lets hope that'll work. only have 60t atm, but i know i've watched more than 12hrs
the only thing you do it for is the prestige of a stage win
but shanghai is already the most winningest owl team with the most stage titles
CC has no relevance to SHD, the prize money isn't that huge. Better to have time to relax before the playoff meta grind starts
^^^
better prepare for the playoffs meta where blizzard cucks all the teams by making one random hero OP
You know the minute the patch for Playoffs is confirmed, SHD are going to be on it 110%
if they win the play ins
against chengdu/seoul
what are play ins
to be honest are people here fan of this hero bans?
play ins to play into the playoffs
I c I c
prediction for the next match?
philly cant get top 2 apac anymore?
lol rip
They'd need bonus points from CC and hope Seoul/Chengdu get none
ye
dude ngl I want a hitscan meta
same
I know ppl dont like widow or whatever
but I want widow lmao
nutty widow plays is my fav owl thing
watching good widows play is such a treat
nutty widow or nutty tracer
fusion can get top 2 actually
chengdu is the one that will have to catch up
they need bonus wins
who is top1 apac atm?
the philly vs seoul match is the key one tomorrow
they're still no1, eventhough they've lost twice last weekend? 😮
Avrl with the memes
they could lose every single game
and seoul could win the whole countdown cup
they are locked for 1
mathematically impossible for them to not be 1
They could lose every game 3-0 and seoul could win every game 3-0 and shanghai would still be 1
SHD gained like 8 bonus points from their 3 finals I think. The other Apac teams barely earnt any bonus points
and their win/lose statistic is still negative, right?
Over all time?
yea
No
sure?
52% now I think
when? 😮
jinmu playing pog
ok, must've missed some matches. last time i've checked it was 64/67 or so
I wonder if you normalised the win % over a season and averaged all 4, where they'd compare vs London
Funny thing is it could be the total Opposite to London. They could go from S1 champs, to not winning a game all season
Yep
Idk why London dropped off so much
Actually I do
They sold all their good players
That probably doesn't count playoffs/tournaments etc.
this is on liquipedia
Its a dumb stat anyway. You're better off looking at the % win rate over all seasons averaged out. Rather than a season with 40 games vs one with 16
games
found it
Overall 75W : 72L (51.02%) in series
288W : 300L (48.98%) in games
@willow tartanwhere did you check? liqui or somewhere else?
yes
that means they still cant break even this year
smh
theyd have to win cc/playoffs without dropping maps
well actually
its only 12 maps
so...
maybe this year they will break even
now i'm confused. last time i was checking the stats, it was 64-67 (or something like that) .. which means i've missed alot of SHD matches
finally beating dallas fuel (last franchise shanghai hasnt beaten) in may, winning back to back stage titles whilst simultaneously becoming the team with the most stage wins, breaking even in series wins
now we just need a championship and breaking even in map wins
[17:22] : If SHD win the finals then wins 3 matches in the countdown cup
They will finally have a all time positive record at 68-67
this was 3 weeks ago, in the SHD discord
almost
Redemption arc is almost complete
if Shanghai win this year
I tried to calculate it all through the seasons and ended up at 65:67 at the moment, but I maybe missed a game or 2 somewhere
they're the most winningest franchise of all time by far
redemption arc is almost here
Um actually shock has 2 grand finals and golden stage 🤓
Which sponsors backed out of Overwatch league
No they aren't lmfao
The better question is which ones didn't
Shocks stability
Most winningest franchise depends how you value stages vs grand finals
Shock got a freebie for 2019 when playoffs patch dropped and blizzard fucked Vancouver so hard they disbanded
Most people would say that Grand Finals are far more important/worthwhile
London are more winningest than shanghai
4-0 2019
I’m looking on the OWL website and
Xfinity
Coca Cola
TeamSpeak
are still there, (I though Coca Cola backed out?)
don't forget pizzahutt
Coca Cola and Xfinity are evaluating their positions. They've removed all their ads from broadcast
Uh oh Shock isn't dominating every team three years in a row and has lossed to top teams after a massive brain drain
Bad team, London r better
the top team London
True
don't worry guys Microsoft will sponsor OWL
What does chengdu need for the playoffd
If they go 2-2 do they get in?
oh no wonder they're borderline throwing
What if charge are the reason they don't go to playoffs
if shanghai is nr 1 regardless they should just boost the teams they don't think that are a threat
SHD have openly said they're not really trying in CC. Theyre giving players a rest/break to prepare mentally for grand finals
that's why they threw to Philly
Shanghai coaches saw Philly as less of a threat than nyxl
develop whoru moment
Moon came out and said they're not scrimming as much or trying as hard because it's too draining to do it all season and expect a good grand finals
Wow route was not close 
1-1
Closer has more grand finals than all of shanghai
lmao Chengdu chengdid it
Chengdu, please
Turns out Eileen is pretty good at the game
What's happening in the game
Eileen is carrying. Like Dalton yesterday
Don't you dare
Eileen is king
They lost cuz no elsa
They lost because they're not playing shanghai
I'm gonna go for like 3 hours I hope chengdu get slapped
Can't wait for Chengdu to roll out the Rein comp lel
chengdu is the team which lost to SHD in summer showdown, right?
At least it is not Spark playing Rein comps
ok, then i agree with @humble yarrow
at least philly didn't lose against nyxl guys
At least boston didn't lose against vanc-
help guys ive overdosed on breadsticks
Have they played London yet
it's sad charge is so low tbh
I always thought they weren't bad
goddamn defense matrix is just op
eileen OP
no computer power rankings? :(
No more Dallas dickriding power rankings :(
my mum is a powder? did she die and get cremated in the last 10 minutes?
guess it's time for leave...to leave 😎
choiisehwaaaaaaaaaaan
dragons should throw since charge is no threat xd
dragons win championsship this year

1-1 vs hunters atm. how are charge no threat
The inevitable is being delayed
or not LUL
ouch
draw?
I didn't realise that was a draw
I thought CHD got a tick

They could draw 3 times in a row now that I think of it
Map 1, Map 5 and anything beyond map 5 are always control in regular games
You can technically draw Maps 2/3/4 and win 3-0 on control maps
yveltal 
Chengdu look like they're having ping problems or something. Both sombras keep getting killed before translocating
Not even to stuns or stuff, just pure damage
I love achillios
What on earth was that
bro they removed drops
bruh
wait why
idk
thats good
Not as good as a 3-0 W
true
What was apac scores
but seoul were good
🐟 carried on dumbani
so far 3-1 philly and 3-2 dtagons
For today Fusion 3-1 NXYL and Dragons 3-2 Dynasty
aND 2-1 HUNTERS
Were dragons trying?
Fusion won damn
good question
not over exerting themselves this time
Pretty hard copium from Dragons fans though, the yt chat is a disease
wsym
“Dragons are taking a break” then “Dragons will win CC” after they won
wdym
Some honest fans there as well but quite a few were like that so I’m never opening yt chat for anything other than spamming !drops until I’m banned
well nei reason to over exert yourselves when youve already mad play offs
Dallas have made it as well
And they were referred to as a washed team after the loss to Paris
theyll go in 2-2
yea
and so did dallas in mm
damnnn jinmu
trie
memp
Idk why it bothers me to see pharahs repeatedly get nanod just to whiff entire clips trying to air shot the other pharah lol
I mean you do get the one shot
high risk high reward
a tank
Pharah is normally the nano target in Ball Dva Pharmercy
Ye of course
that bomb was so sick
Brenshow better be casting the bread bowl
fr
jinmu almost blew himself up lol
its going to be entertaining
ez game
fr
Thank you chengdu
I will now wait until next week before caring about any other game
OH YEAH
my poor preds
bruh i just realized i pred london to beat the fuel
London hopium
everyones
It's coming home
i want them to win but fuel unlikely
I wonder how the Uprising would perform in the apac region
bad
Well yeah
Valiant
no more losses
the curse is gone
The Valiant aren't an na team
ok correct my statement the only good na team
They were previously an NA team
in 2018
to be an NA team you need to have three map wins
overall or in one game
overall
so la the only winless team with under 3 map wins
ah
Nano mercy is better
Nyxl
nyxl was a na team???
Were they?
not sure
given yeah
I don’t think so tbh
Fusion and valiant went from NA last season to APAC this season
New York have been apac the past 2 seasons
both
like same level as fleta profit leave
what about sparkle then
decay not
lol
i think decay is madly overrated
but hes a top tier tracer
no debate

Decay has had shit everything his entire career
Guy popped off for Gladiators, Dallas, ad Justice
Justice and Glads had a good roster
shit coaches
Unknown dark soda beverage
If Decay is on his heroes with a good coach with a decent team he will win you all the trophies
He won't throw games away
like Profit did today
Seoul is just the definition of inconsistent
boston
Paris
Only thing consistent ab Seoul is dumb coaching decisions
!!luigi
the only thing consistent about Boston is pedophile players
The only consistent team is Valiant
????
Boston's best contribution to the league is ending loosing streaks
shut
No

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3-0
!!lily
3-0
low effort command
Only I can use the command sorry
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Hey luigi
waiting for what
Boston beat paris
???
???
u can use ur mouth to speak to my hand✋
What
i will lick your hand clean
thank you champ
np boyfriend
y'all weird asf holy shit
i see nothing wrong here wdym
i bet lily is jealous
lily malding because marbel loves me and boston lost 3-0 to the titans
boston didnt lose 3-0, titans won 3-0
true
!!luigi
!!lily
3-0
This guys are boosting shangai dragons alot
i want it to mention that it was against the titans
!!luigi
Where is my Atlanta 😭
paris beat titans tho
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