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tbf they are already qualified but they defo did underestimate and theyre trying others but still
it smells like peasant in here
you said 3-1
where are all the cool people
Yes Boston 3-1 paris
I'm back dw Luigi
nei where
they should play whoru and develop
how about shock
they did
3-2 Boston
yeah they should keep benching fleta tbh
ah ok
whoru more like whore
wot
haha gottem
at the same time
good one Luigi :)
thank u it took me a long time to keep up with on
didnt they
no lip was playing the whole time
ah right
true
Can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shoothing stars? Cuz I really want shock to lose.
or he has camera problems so it fates camera
they were letting other players play and testing other comps
but it was weird
Watch him retire right before playoffs
who
Fleta
who
nah
who
Joe
Ligma balls.
super is still playing like he's in ranked
why is faith on ana?
Who is playing
valentine
myunbong is the ana player
bong's on zen
faith is ana valentine is genji
๐ unlucky
or was ana
when are we getting 4k back
Fucking obliterated
convinced hanzo players can willingly curve their arrows
llol
He thanks snapped 37
why they no use nano blade wtf
not sure
ans zoned myunb0ng away and then rolled valentine
they had time to use it before that tho and just didn't
They baited valentine in with deadeye and killed him before could nano blade
ans 
jesus
why choose the widow tho
gg
nero is unhinged on the torb
coom time
holy moly
3-0 maybe ๐คก
whats wrong with ShD ??? losing 3-0 to phily???
crusty must've gave them some inspirational speech
Just got back
and losing 3-2 to nyxl?? ๐ฎ
How close was that map?
idk man
it is very strange
philly too good broo
Not close
rascal/carpe/shockwave/eqo lineup
yeah i agree
which heroes are banned this week?
echo ashe sig lucio
it's for the whole tournament
hm.. i don't understand both losses. they were so strong last month
yeah
plus they're messing around with comps and dps rotations
i think they need to focus and come back
eqo popped off
unless they dont want to win this tourney
Their next games are against Seoul and Guangzhou.
but ?
Easy games.
the philly one was understandable but nyxl should've been easy for them regardless of how hard they tried
nxyl fucking suck
then NYXL sweeps philly
NYXL are looking pretty strong at the moment
It's APAC. There is no sense of good or bad
They've been looking pretty solid since Kalios joined them
oh Avast, putting 3-2 for Boston
justice or glads winning after this?
i think they just unestimated philly and nyxl
why? new lineup or why do you think so?
oh that would be funny for a thrice
cdh
it's a Chex diff
its always a sonic arrow hs
im37 hanzo cracked
Viol2t dies first so often its crazy
JESUS CHRIST
my goodness
what a guy*
Have you seen fleta landing like 12 headshots on nero as pharah who is nanoed
no i have not ๐
Lucio banned but shock still decides to run Reinhardt anyway
why
When they have smurf in their pocket
chad move
Rein with Brig Zen ???
I really donโt get shocks coaching decisions right now
ew why soldier
at least they have violet on zen
super a one trick pony lol
mines is a lot harder to cancel
yeah mines still go out cuz there isn't really a cast time like with emp
it's still possible tho ig
their just abusing ans
ans is flanking on cree against ball dva pharah
ans just wanting to play valorant
lmao
37 was in the little bikehouse thing to Nero's left
we gooo agaane
nero should've cancelled the hack with blink tho
bruhhhhh
map 4
all I saw was Nero blink and he gets hack
doesn't really matter they lose this anyways
dude
stunned emp nothing happens
stunned minds nothing happens
blinks out of hack nothing happens
AYO I THINK BOSTON IS HACKING GUYS
mald
jk
the blink out of hack didn't change anything considering he lived and picked the brig either way
Boston is good, but this is not normally
this is a wild thing but Striker and Moth really carried SFS
Boston is good, but this is not normally
nah all of shock's assistant coaches last season are head coaches on other teams rn
and now they have crusty and casores
striker carrying is true though
yeah the striker loss was huge
even if striker moth carried the current shock roster should still be really good
moth comms was also big but I think super has taken up that role pretty well
Super some times is benched
current shock in theory should be a league finals sort of team
but they just kinda suck sometimes
Got to also remember just how much all the other teams have levelled up this year
Overall Talent level is so much higher vs last year. Apart from Titans/London/LAV
yeah but map 5 to london?
final 8 for playoffs I see fuel shock glads atlanta justice dragons seoul philly
For real I wanna say Boston was the biggest talent upgrade
but that's just a feeling
replace seoul with chengdu and I agree probably
Random bad performances happen. Shock still have a pretty good record for the regular season
ehh do you really think Chengdu will string it along to playoffs time?
somehow I trust Seoul more than Chengdu in the realm of consistency
Chengdu can really only play one comp
playoff profit will carry
At least Seoul can play others
depends if seoul play marve1 or gesture
Put glister in
๐คทโโ๏ธ
Chengdu could still remain pretty good, especially if the doom/genji changes are going to be playoff meta
myunbong carry
Give Jinmu a chance to play Genji and you know he's going to be on it
also this meta is a chengdu meta no doubt
assuming they don't pull some wacky hog buff shit again
it won't be too bad for them
Like the hog buff on experimental atm? ๐
I'm talking about end of season playoffs.
The ones I listed were the 8 teams I see making it in the playoffs
yeah I mean how hard can they fuck the meta up to make ball useless enough to handicap chengdu
get rid of super we want smurf
Every single grand finals has been on a garbage patch.
bro
I wouldn't be surprised if they randomly omega buff some random character
Choi is just doing nothing against this Pharah, it's too easy for Boston
shock throwing
like watch them super buff Hanzo or something
super or feedgod = throws
he a one trick with a side of orisa thats it
main tank hog
The dva diff in this match & yesterdays vs Fuel is crazy. Choi just seems to not know how to deal with a pharah
i knew this was going to happen too
it happened back in the june joist when everyone was running monkey dva
shock is just not confident on the comps they need to be confident on
ans forehead?
wtf was that
striker would've landed that
๐ ๐
Was that a zoning nano?
ans lol
LOL
trueing
ans cam is legendary
lmfao
forehead ans is just on a new level
he's still the hottest player in the lobby ngl
fr
here comes the shock OT choke
sheeeeeeeeeeesh
stand1!!

2cp lmao
stuck inside the goo!!
2cp moment
jeuss
winnabale
hopium
Boston went from 70% to 81%
i'd be much more into the matches if i hadn't watched 30+ hours of OWL for a grand total of 0 tokens
DUB
no rein its possibl;e
maybe you just don't enjoy OWL
nah i occasionally do
It's not for everyone
i just don't know why shock is going brig bap into this
not getting the rewards that i'm trying to get really puts a damper on it though
i like watching it cause its leagues of team comms and plays above streamers top 500 and shit
plus cool cam angles
I mean league tokens shouldn't be the reason you watch OWL
If you don't enjoy watching it then you're wasting your time
lets go
OMG
6 minute time bank 2cp moment
YOOOO
NERO??!!!?????!!??
lolol
gg
ggs
EZ
ggs
PogU
that's what i thought
sure!
Shock > Bostom > Paris > Dallas > Shock
ahhaha
the bad ending
but shock lost to dallas yesterday so theres some float room for dallas
So all we know so far is Shock > Shock, apart from when Shock < Shock
shock > shock
shock beats boston
boston beats paris
paris beats fuel
fuel beats shock
NA is becoming the new APAC
justice league
glads
fuck the roman gladiators
fuck you
Which team makes least sense to win? I vote that team will win
ancient rome is sick as fuck
one of the most interesting parts of ancient history
Any team not playing
I changed my pred to boston and they lost
I blame you
for this
Can we just skip the next 3 weeks and go to the Bread Bowl already? That's going to be the highlight of CC
lol
:)
your fault for believing in treeko
it's not that I believed in boston
rookie mistake
why does shock look so sad
trusting the boston fan
What if I said shock 3-1
I just stopped believing in shock
the hecc
:)
nah don't talk to me again :(
:(
my pickems are soooo fucked
why does houston look so sad
Apac is a mess
Why is your discord black?
extension
wdym
then wtf is an extension
Definition of extension
1a: the action of extending : state of being extended
b: an enlargement in scope or operation
tools are extensions of human hands
2a: the total range over which something extends : COMPASS
b: DENOTATION sense 4
3a: the stretching of a fractured or dislocated limb so as to restore it to its natural position
none of those definitions fit into this context
Isn't that just when u tap 7 times on the dark mode
better discord or something innit
lemme ask urban then
It's just discord in darkmode
A mechanism used to defeat the [disagreeable]. Cup your hand as if you were holding a [fire hose] to you [adversary]. Once the enemy is in sight, bark profanities and insults.
And it goes black instead of grey
nope, still not it
this is right, unlike your preds!
better discord is not an extension
my apac has been fine except for the shanghai games tbf
I'm reporting you
just NA sucks rn
Thatโs against tos!
I've gotten every single apac game right ๐
i already know
So ur actively breaking discord tos
i switched my nyxl pred sadge
I just had to get him to confirm it before I reported him
whats an ๐๏ธ -dot?
yessir
Oh no 
It's heresy though
how do you even report someone
find the main server of disc or something idk lmao
do they have an official main server
the only way i know is if you have admin and you can report a message by deleting it
discord got too big
like imagine if every single discord user automatically is in the same official discord server
impossible to moderate
Impossible to have a conversation
?
Based Mr X
thats how i feel when this channel is arguing
Knees weak. Arms heavy.
whats your preds for this match
even tho i wanted glads to lose to atlanta, now i want glads to beat washington, but the disappointment from glads is very high
glads choke map 5 all the time
Plus. Phara.
but against justice I doubt they get pushed to map 5
๐
this map? tf
Imagine @plush grail
Justice going for their 0-2 start to a tourney again, before actually being good when it's too late to qualify for anything
whats the next two games for justice
decay is doing good but they're not winning
3-0 Houston
even one map could be huge for justice there
reddit was right, the backline is actually the weak link
If justice lose this 3-0, I think they're pretty much screwed for CC
Support diff so far?
it basically would be the same situation as shock last tourney
Any ttubers
when ttuba had his rally, Skewed had already +75% on his second one
that's not entirely his fault
his team can't peel for him as well and he gets taken out of fights early
maybe other than alarm and ljg
Decay is just too cocky
Does alarm play brig?
Like carpe but without being that good
i feel like he plays like violet
or has the same energy
fuck decay
he played it before and many people called him the best brig
Alarm plays brig but he is better at Zen
ofc
Peepster
decay kinda fkn rn
Best 2nd place finisher
six leaves would beat six alarms
Whatโs the best roster possible
decay OKAY
6 onigod
depending on meta
Alarm decay fleta
Super Rein, Super Genji, Super Zen + 3 others
6 fdgods kap
6 roolfs meta
moth with good coaching better ljg
put ttuba in dps line
No brig
they insta win
LJG 
I was typing a roster, then I realsied it's basically just S3 SHD
Fearless/Void/LJG/Izyaki/Lip/Fleta
I think ljg is stronger mechanically
Alarm > izayaki
Mechanically yes, brainy nah
no
Hanbin > void
no
Fearless Fate Void actually would be the greatest tank line ever
I'd say Izyaki has been better this year. Hanbin probably beats Void on dva
Izayaki leads #1 in all zen stats so cracked
poko hasnt lost a game

Philly should have just sold Poko to Paris when they needed a new OT
well
maybe a lend
no way sell
bring back diem goddamn it
I could see Philly sticking with Hotba over Poko next year
god damnnit
for the widowmaker tournaments
Diem bad
who is the best widow this year
Pine > diem
We haven't had a widow meta this year to really know whos best
maybe ans still
Gwangboong
Widow is gonna be a thing in Countdown cup I think
im the local nyxl simp but i still think ans is better
It's like saying who's the best Bastion
Pine be like
So many teams running pharah shit
pine you mean the pine that got knocked out by nenne?
damn must be tough to live with such a small brain
Nenne > Pine
True!
true
ignorance is bliss
Diem > every widow in existence
^^^^
I miss Libero 
yes even taimou in his prime
same

did you forget
foh real
Ok but what about mickeyy widow
But Libero making monies of Bitcoin
Hope he have a backup
Or invested before the dip
Libero is the richest OWL player ever
no no he doesnt invest in crypto
he manages other people's investments in crypto
ffs he is so smart
hes a multimillionaire
I do wonder how many OWL players have a side hustle of some sort as a backup plan. Whether its streaming, investing etc.
T2 seems to be going the direction of Collegiate, which is a good thing for those players
fleta was offered to become a model
ok i have gone through a bunch of overwatch discords and this is the last one
do you guys think this is a good top 10 list of dps duos 1. lip, fleta 2. leave jinmu 3. sparkle doha, 4. fits profit 5. kai pelican 6. shy, arcetect, 7. flora, gwangboong 8. danteh, happy 9. birdring, kevster 10. hessu, aspire
and or Gwangboong
profits higher
Sparkle and Doha are not #3
Maybe change seoul dps duo with them
where is justice dps line
they were there but everybody voted to get rid of them after the match going on rn
unironically paris dps line might be top 10 as well
unironically profits is better than leave jinmu
profits has more flexibility
Shock DPS line is also not there
i had paris dps in but again voted off to maek room for glads
and Paris DPS line pretty good as well
nero is garbo
nero is worst than teru guys
still does
n*ro
surprisingly
he's doing well
like he appears on geng streams for dynasty and everything
dont know really weird
his stream good too
no nero doesn't do much
factual
thank u
finally someone that is woke
You should stop reading YT chats opinion on Nero
his tracer never gwets value out of pulse and his pharah would get diffed by half the league
Profits #1 dps duo if fleta lip arent playing this good ๐ฉ
He's been Shock's most consistant player this year by far
no this is not from yt chat
anyway my top 3 dps duos would be flip, profits, and leavemu
this is from the overwatch university and overwatch leage servers
sparkle doha is not #3 maybe #5
Imagine havin diya back
๐ฅฒ
dude imagine last year someone tells you that philly will have carpe rascal shockwave eqo
no i am toronto fan even though philly might be better i won't let toronto go
Then you let them down by telling them that Mano/Hotba are their tank line ๐
also hessu aspire might be better than carpe rascal
mano poko
keep smoking that crack bro
Ivy 
toronto fan
they are the only reason toronto isn't 0-12
that doesnt make them better than carpe rascal
I stand corrected, I think you might actually learn from yt chat
Ivy was my second best Mei pick
but i got to keep that toronto copium
or whatever
ivy as best mei last year imo
they are 6-6
too bad he sucked this eyar
edym
Rascal
idk who the 4th dps duo would be though
toronto are bottom gatekeepers
Rascal rolled on Mei
like from what we've seen so far?
i prefered ivy over rascal
shy architect should be better
past top 3 it gets muddy
Architect bastion
who is 4 then?
ok shy arcetect and carpe rrascal should be in

maybe carpe rascal yeah
and lowkey jinmu leave is it instead of leave jimmy
dps line up rankings are dumb unless you specify a meta anyway. If its a Sombra/Doom meta, its vastly different vs Torb/Mcree lol
jimmy leave is if they are running like
leave can hitscan
ashe/tracer
yeah
- lip, fleta 2. fits profit3. leave jinmu, 4. sparkle doha, 5. kai pelican 6. shy, arcetect, 7. flora, gwangboong 8. danteh happy 9. birdring, kevster 10. carpe rascal
how does that look
Kai 
i already had them in
edison pelican was played more throughout the season
profits is the difference between seoul being a good team and a playoffs threat
except maybe lip damn damn
nah fits maybe best cree but nat ashe
- lip, fleta 2. fits profit3. leave jinmu, 4. sparkle doha, 5. kai pelican 6. shy, arcetect, 7. flora, gwangboong 8. danteh happy 9. birdring, kevster 10. carpe rascal
Why not just rank teams DPS lineups, rather than duos? Having flexibility makes a big difference.
this is what i am hearing from you guys
philly should be 1 on paper then :(
Yo why is Sparkle Doha 4?
Feel like Kai Pelican is 4
ans ashe numba won
and Dallas is 5
cant really say kai pelican 4 but edison has been playing for like the past 2 months
- lip, fleta 2. fits profit3. leave jinmu, 4. kai pelican 5. sparkle doha, 6. shy, arcetect, 7. flora, gwangboong 8. danteh happy 9. birdring, kevster 10. carpe rascal
kai been playing more though
yeah i think atlanta reign dps is better than a team with no hitscan players
Sparkle Doha until the meta is anything hitscan
They will sub in rapel to play ashe
How long do you realistically think Dallas will 1 trick a comp and get away with it
not long they are learning wreking ball
And they're prob gonna 1t that comp lol
By the looks of Dallas, it's been getting worse every stage
he is the only hitscan tehy have
God this series sucks both these teams are meming
like dallas is getting worse and worse
are they gonna make 4?
are they gonna qualify?
I mean it'd be so funny if SHD don't qualify
Decay lmao
healer diff rn
Ez Tracer bomb
apac doesnt have enough good teams for dragons to not qualify
Will they though?
its just whether or not they throw during their knockouts game
Realistically they'll win 3-2 against Seoul
and 3-0 Guangzhou
the last time they played against seoul it was a 3-0
that'll be a 2 points with a + 0
the time before the last time it was also a 3-0
yeah and this shd got swept by fusion and beaten by nyxl
AND they always get a loss from Seoul
NYXL is not it sorry
somehow
NYXL's next games is against fusion and hunters
nyxl are +4 right
unless fusion throws 0-6 is very likely
well if fusion loses then shanghai will take fusion's spot
well its only natural for dallas to get worse
yeah
they are a very strong one dimensional team
longer the season goes on the more exposed they are
yes
We need a Australi, south East team for making APAC more balanced
also nyxl will totally beat fusion
we'd need 2 more teams
they literally win everytime
Ironically, season 4 was supposed to have more teams thanks the homesteads
But COVID happened
Yeh, last year games were supposed to attract more investors and such
Didn't glads looks like shit yesterday
Not as tragic as philly's season so far
On track to losing to NYXl thrice in one season
Reminds me of other teams that lose to nyxl 
valiant
fkn no reg
dogshit game
imagine losing an OWL game from a noreg
id mald so hard
?
Sub assassin put Jerry
put in ttuba pharah
About that

pity map
why are they playing mirror moth
I thought they only played mirror to substitute moth shotcalling
Dpei predictability time
What's even more depressing is justice is losing this
These fights are so
wtf was ttuba doing lol
Imagine glads without dpei being allowed on map 5 decisions lmaooo
They'd win like 3 extra games this year
this is not good overwatch
this looks like a gold game
where the team doesnt know how to deal with a pharmercy
lmao
Ez 3-1
i cant believe i predded outlaws
I think I predded glads to win
same 3-1
probably 3-0
dude i thought outlaws would be good after that 3-0 sweep
nvm
justice is actually so bad
they cant cross the fuckin bridge
God both these teams 
La on map 5 scenarios are always such memes
Assassin moment
Lmao they even referenced The Other Guys scene where Samuel L Jackson and the Rock jump off the roof and just die
aim for the bushes
gg
glads arent to hot last few months
well done
Okay. Now not only do I have no faith in Glads. I also don't have faith in Justice.
This lmaoo
@fast tusk feels good being right
oh cuss i said they dissapoint
Justice 
well i still said i wanted them to win so
Cuz we both predicted glads win
fr
why does kevster look like that
Ggs @Outlaws 3-0
People call us delusional for not playing dive but everyone else is delusional thinking they will beat APAC in dive mirror anyway if you are not Dallas LOL.
374
https://twitter.com/OMyunbong/status/1309850689800085505/photo/1 this came in my recommended again
lol
Canโt be the weak link if you donโt play ๐
Lmaoooo
lmbao
nah they played really well flora and jjonak had masterclass performances and gwangboong yakpung popped the fuck off along with it
Pharah has been very map dependent still
ashe and echo being banned in cc could be why 
they shouldn't nerf phara theres no hero pools out of owl
overwatch still has this problem of nerfs and buffs catering to owl
good
Pharah has been like this forever
Na just never touched her there's a reason apac runs her whenever the map allows
No idea tbh
didnt know there were games today
missed them all : (
Going to watch shock vs boston now though
It's ayt real fans watch for the gameplay ๐ฏ
Only the real fans go back and watch the entire apac live stream
Just for the spark game
Cause I donโt particularly care about everyone else
why is the only time i dont watch is when the los angeles sadiators win 
ofo
oh hey
philly won with shockwave sombra and eqo genji
interesting
I like
and can we appreciate a hotba player of the match, when the hell is the last time we saw that lmao
bruh i wake up at 5am to watch them live
How did super improve so much on ball
Compared to previous times this season when he ran it
bcuz he had to
na teams need to adapt
even if Shanghai is taking a break from winning
Chengdu will roll NA alone
I don't trust apac
NYXL beat shd
philly doing well
??????
wack ass region
But I don't trust NA either
Both regions are a tossup on who's the best
NA are going to destroy Chengdu and whichever APAC team makes it this time. They only did so well because NA got the wrong read.
Glads Houston Reign Paris Boston Shock Dallas all struggle but are good at the same time
I can't trust anyone 
can't find it
but it was basically showing paris beating dallas, dallas beating shock, but boston beating paris, and shock beating boston
Hero pools ruins owl
I hate how the owl meta can be untransferrable to ranked, it definitely makes me less interested
Hero Pools usually choose the worst characters
Like I would've banned D.Va or Ball
And they banned Ashe when she wasn't getting a lot of play time
I would've banned Mercy
It feels like it's more bullying certain teams
Picked by marbels game :)
Mmm, idk man the best teams are the ones that adapt
When shock won it was all grr Shanghai got bad meta
But when shock won to Vancouver there wasn't nearly as much grrr Vancouver was better in goats guys this is unfair come on. I just think like, if you are on tricking a comp that's cool and all but being a one trick team can't get you super far
Look at Washington
https://themoviescoop.com/1or100/
1 gang or 100 gang?
It's their tournament
Washington sadge
Ok honestly I want shock to get through knockouts but like
If mayhem somehow made it to Hawaii I would be so happy
I want mayhem to do well
but they don't
but maybe ball comps are their thing or something
not with their schedule

all the teams who need desperate wins have terrible schedules
NYXL has 2 other games that look near impossible
Dynasty is doable
Hunters isn't
#WINNABLE
They won because of a C9
Dragons was clapping them
They didn't take care of the Pharah very well
And with Ashe being banned Gwangboong can't shine as much
Gwangboong was playing great on the cree 
There were several periods where they were rolling
Yeah true
And given Chengdu's wackiness and seouls inconsistency I have hope
Kalios joining and Ivy leaving is the best thing that's happened to them
Yakpung did pretty well
Kalios is really really good
Then again I've been watching Bianca for half a season
Chengdu could randomly try to play rein or something and blow it and Seoul is just Seoul
Yeah
Ivy was a top 5 flex dps last year which is so crazy thinking about how he left philly and they didn't even plan on getting rascal and then they got a not as good as before rascal and ivy was permanently benched
Flex dps have had so many ups and downs
Eqo is also showing why Luigi said he's top 5 last season and everyone disagreed 
So carpe Heesu ivy eqo vs Carpe rascal shockwave eqo
This felt like such a huge upgrade at the time but now they look really equal in hindsight
Fusion is so stacked yet so bad
this has been true for all of the overwatch league's existence
How'd Shock look today 
Decent
I heard ans didn't look too hot is that true
Well def not as dominant
As last year
Died a lot
Still had some pop off moments though
Overall ok in terms of ans expectations
Decent
They won against Boston
How much did super play
He look good?
My man
Yeah actually
NICE



