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yea lol
Viol4t hog
We demand viol2t on main tank
I like how violet has had such a bad year considering how it started against pingster on mcree

This house agrees Guangzhou, Vancouver, London and Valiant are eliminated
*guranteed
So that's 4 less teams to keep a watch on after this weekend
Mathematically they're not going to break countdown cup

inb4 valiant 4-0
I think the bottom teams still technically can get in
They better actually do a losers final of the bottom 4 teams this year so charge can win something

or not I forget
Also SOS was just better for GZ Last year, but at least they won with that schedule/seeding advantage
Playoffs backet is all about seeding
Doesn't matter if you're in the middle or the top
You fall twice, you either cuck or suck at the playoffs meta
Charge is currently a bottom 4 team right. I can't remember if anyone has done worse than them atm besides Florida but they're a little meh for bottom 4 since they put a benched dps on main tank
are we ignoring that valiant has 2 off rolers
I'll use it on my next podcast ep
Man do I need a new co-host or what
Can't even get someone to respond
They also banned themselves here
Yeah but valiant wouldn't have a team if they weren't off role Florida could use their main tank as a main tank valiant I don't think have the hero pools to do that
oge genji when
Checkmate mercy
Which is easily fixable by signing a minimum contract on one of the hundreds of Chinese players trying to make owl but nope let's off role 
no apparently
nobody wanted to sign with them
those were the only players they could find
Once NvM gets play time
As they should. But surely you can't tell me with the amount of tier 2 talent in china that a bottom team player wouldn't try out. Unless the bottom tier players that tried out we're worse than the off rollers which would just be sadge
okay let me rephrase
they couldnt find any t2 talent willing to play with their org under a minimum salary*
because lets face it
thats the case
The best players willing to sign with them which were the bare minimum washed up talent or super hopeful talent 🤠
I like to think those like highbee and showcheng actually had hope for the team and that the rest were just cheap fill ins like Krystal
Which is amusing because Krystal is arguably the best player on the team
Although it's easy to look good on dps vs other roles
I believe Showcheng joined under the expectation that his tank partner 800 was gonna join with him
Molanran just exists for me. I never see him do a lot. Then silver3 has masters at best ball mechanics and then the off roles make up the rest 
but he flaked to join bilibili
800 and Thor were going to join iirc
i mean anything over silver3 yk
But they play charge this month so you know what this means, it's dub season for Valiant 
800 and showcheng mightve been able to do something
800 is one of the better ball tier 2 players out there I think
Just wild valiant can play meta and lose to charge 3-0 who play off meta super slowly with a bad main tank and benching their hitscan
Mechanics diff 
London actually need to win this game or they will face so much shit because on paper and with contenders history if they lost to the current Vancouver roster that'd be an omega yikes
Match is already gonna be hella ping too EU to Vancouver unless the team houses being in New York like it says on liquidpedia is still true
Ah that's Paris in new York
Ic
I legit think titans will win
How
he's delusional
I am not
HAHAHAGHA OH MY GOD THE PARIS FAN THINKS TITANS WON’T HAVE A WINLESS SEASON
Oh yeah and Bl*zzard 🤮
there are actually tons of companies being like anti-union n shit
shitt that's why I dont wanna work for a company ahaha
I had a laugh when I saw the tik tok commenting on it before this story
what
based
You fools
I don’t use any social media on a regular basis because I value my mental health 😎
we dont care
stop speaking
^^
im talking to u
calls himself a chad
uses reddit
im a chad
1 blocked message
luigi is a chad
why buff ball
rest is lit
Spawning on cool down definitely hurts him a good bit
Yea that stuff is annoying
thank god they made shields instant tho
Can’t imagine why it wasn’t instant before
roadhog change is good
Surprised they didn’t make mines uncancellable as well
I don't like the dragon blade change.
Doomfist change seems fun.
Moira sure, why not.
I like most of the changes
genji buff :))))
Moira was totally unseeded
*uneeded
fusion glads atlanta paris boston shock nyxl
You forgot Dragons
im diamond
bs
poggers diamond
You didn’t see it because there won’t be any Dragons fans in sight when they don’t make it past knockouts
let me pull up my profile for that
good patch

why did they buff moira weirdchamp
hows ur social life buddy
The genji change is a step in the right direction for the hero
false
experimental, yes
Memeicus is going to be excited to see Fleta lock the Legs
this hog change seems good but i dont like it since its going to increase hog pickrate and make them think they arent feeding
fleta cree
Develop
whoru genji fleta doom
develop ashe lip widow when
If they didn’t even bring Develop out to play vs Valiant, never 
Develop is literally the ultimate benchwarmer
Coldest:
when will we get the ultimate lineup
fate void develop whoru molly leejaegon
fleta playing the dva
Sigma
sigmas banned this stage
Void sigma getting benched for yet another flex dps 
:)
I know exactly which scene and movie this is from and it pains me I recognize it so easily
when did void get benched what
Imagine having potential to win the season couldn’t be me
wait is florida purple
Florida is not purple
i think im color blind
Are you braindead
Florida is pink you colour blind skemp
are you calling colorblind people braindead?
Glads
lmaooo
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Imagine having a good team with a bad coach couldn’t be me 
you cant solely blame the coaches
the players are fkd too
but what you can definitely blame the coaching staff for
is having their 3 dps do "guess who plays sombra" every map
Seems like the orange teams have a habit of doing that
All 3
well actually
Jimmy played sombra as well
This tourney no
well from what i remember leave sombra and jinmu sombra werent bad and they only swapped between each other when the other had to do something else
But they did play musical sombras during the June Journament
like leave tracer and jinmu pharah
musical sombras, i like it.
Sometimes they had Leave tracer Jimmy sombra for if they wanted to play long range hitscan
o yea
But at least they had a plan and knew what players worked best
jinmu's sombra definitely better than jimmy
Instead of putting Leave on pharah or some dumb shit
He could
just jinmu radiates more fuck energy
pharah/echo meta when
Dpei is the goat, he knows what he's doing all the time
Fleta Profit Jinmu Rascal

At this point if Dpei just didn’t force a sombra mei comp I’d trade him for NineK
can you trade coaches?
Probs
I can trade deez nuts
never call dpei the goat in my presence again
Dpei is the best coach in the league
I will cry
He beat shock, shock are the reigning champions
kuki best coach
Not according to NicoGDH
I lost my regular role bc i got muted
that sounds weird if you put it in a specific context
Never forget that technically Nico has a title
Kuki can't even use oge properly when he's on the roster smh
Nico is a bad eu malder
a little too much trolling unfortunately
No images for me... have to stick to stickers.
Hey Memeicus
If you want to outsmart the system just send an image to me that you want the server to see and I’ll post it for you and say it’s yours
its not like i even used the image perms for anything useful
and besides
if i be a good boy for a few weeks ill probs get it back
you can copy image link and it will send btw
maybe
isntead of copy image
yea
idk if this is illegal information actually oh fuck oh fuck
it is known
Quick send a pic of a gamer god and the mods will be to busy sending their praises to ban us
innovation
The only good player is dpei, but he has to coach to carry glads
What role would Dpei play?
Flex
benchwarmer
I think Dpei should bench Kevster
lose against nyxl for the third time?
Philly has been looking tragic recently
based on their nyxl match vod review, I have determined that no matter what they literally just are hard coach gapped and in two places hard mechanically gapped to be good
and I expect this month especially to show it
not that they ever were good
but like any hope in the dps and chrong is melted at this time
PLAYOFFS META GENJI META LETS GO

I don't think so
Yes
Dallas will perfect Ball comps or learn all of its weakness
They are practicing Ball comps right now. And we have the best coaching staff in the league
sparkle on the legs kekw
I'm not even interested in Dallas or Shanghai for the cc, I'm more interested in all the midtier teams fighting to get in the playoffs
its make or break for teams like Boston and Paris
and poor Philly
How do you get the beach fuel spray?
you need 4 hours watched of mm,
yeah
MM?
may melee, so its too late
Then why’s it only just been added?
cause blizzard, I guess?
maybe since it fits the summer game theme
Thoughts on Houston?
They will prolly struggle this meta
Danteh happy seems decent for tracer sombra
Jjanggu/dreamer ball is decent
Never seen crimzo zen ngl
crimzo zen isn't his top choice. Not sure how jjangu/dreamer will do in ball meta, and cloning doesn't exist so they can't run danteh danteh
Would ksf sombra Danteh tracer be better than happy tracer Danteh sombra
don't remember seeing ksf on that role but maybe he could
I think he played it last year
wait
who is the dallas simp on the ow balance team
buff genji, buff doom
or a sparkle simp maybe
I wouldn’t call the genji change a buff
More breakpoints are changed on the m1 than ones lost on the ult
Is there a way to check these breakpoints
great meta for valiant. silver3 ball, showcheng dva, highbee brig, molanran tracer,
They need to get Pine on already
well tbh, even if it wasn't a good meta for them, charge are just so far below even teams like Toronto I am telling you man Toronto could body the charge and toronto are fuckin toronto
like the dps line for charge is fine, but they have no cree player, and they swap tracers all the time, and then rio is just bad, mandu is like barely usable, and kariv is a heal bot. but even then they could still pass as like a C tier team but they play their comps so slow that the mechanics don't matter because they get dived on or rushed before they respond
it is just so frustrating to see all that talent get wasted because they play extremely passive into most comps and can only beat the teams they can mechanically diff like la or nyxl
and nyxl they only mechanically diff half the time tbf
anyway rant about kenobis team bad over
#freechoisehwan
don't even free eileen there is better talent out there but for fuck sake free choi
pls
Spark
Choi about to get signed
Ayo wym Eileen is real nice
Leave shy eileen
I cum
Imagine leave shy eileen diya dps better than fleta lip whoru develop
Actually
yeahh
Charge should be fine for Ball Tracer Sombra comps at least in theory
leave shy 
Jihun is decent on Ball, Choi is very good on Tracer, Eileen has a decent Sombra, and Cr0ng's Dva is good. However, they'll probably not execute it very well
Oh yeah it was naming Chinese dps players
THIS
actually
so much pain
oh yeah I kept thinking jihun was dropped but I forgot that was takoyaki and spark
but idk jihun wasn't super good when he was playing right? I can barely remember now
and yeah for sure eileen is nice but if I gotta save one of those dudes from a dead end team id save choi
in the perfect world id save the best three dump the rest and then fill it with chinese contenders players, or shit if hz or chengdu can't afford the 4 person support lines maybe charge can get a good pickup in the off season
but honestly, rio is the least of their problems, he is passable enough, their support line and hitscan just suck turbo balls
It's like when shock had Ans/Striker/Sinatraa/Architecht/Rascal all on the same team at the same time
It was brief but they hoarded talent hardcore
honestly if lige wasn't picked up and spark got cr0ng instead of bernar, idk if their season would be too different but id at least like it lmaoo
I like crong he is so good at eating ults even if he isn't the best off of sigma dva
sigma dva are the only two important off tanks anyway
zarya was meta once last year too
and only meta before that in goats
but a dps played here there
If sideshow can win games in open div anyone can
Imagine Fusion Uni vs Gold Xbox Team 
Crong dva and sigma eats are just chefs kiss, especially his matrix. Something so satisfying about watching a blizzard just get sucked up
Wow that can mean a lot of things in different contexts
Lol

have y'all submitted your pick'ems? 
me when owl today
paris pog
What hitscan

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Nonsense
I sleep and I wake, I have an appointment for something pays me more than 200 OWL tokens
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oh shit owl starts today
I'm gonna turn the stream on then pass the fuck out
is Poko in korea yet?
I think so
why did the gladiators legion not participate in contenders
Because Gladiators Legion does not exist
The only academy teams still alive are Uprising Academy, Team Chaser, and Team CC
yeah im talking about that
And BH
why did they get disbanded lmao
Technically T1 is phillys academy they just don’t use it
tldr: NA contenders sucks, and covid
I thought billibilli gaming was hangzhou’s academy team as well?
Did Atlanta and Eternal Academy disband?
they haven't been around for ages
wdym?
Saucy 
Imagine Saucy on a team like Dragons today
He’d turn them into a championship contender
true
He’d carry them with his amazing junkrat tires
dont think atl used saucy right
4 minute tire 
I'm so pumped for Paris v Fuel tonight - I literally don't know which way it'll go
how is it already the last tourney
🥲
which games we have today?
Ball comp ball comp
Who tf would run pulled pork after APAC absolutely dicked on NA with ball
Atlanta 
atl wont play hog comps at all
No one will play hog comps
exactly
H
G
found some guys tierlist on reddit, honestly not 2 bad
what?
ATL is wrong though
yeah
even in ball meta imo
mm yeah muze ball is good
justice down 1, glads/shock/atl up one
it's copium
but florida up 1
also chengdu up 1
mhm definitely
Why would justice go down one lol
They've been good good recently
it seems like they got their shit together
Beating Glads
taking dallas to map 5
beating paris
the team that reverse swept glads
and in ball, its seems like people conveniently forgot how cracked mag is
Here's the thing
Remember preseason open scrims
People keep telling me mag is some ball god
Tracer Sombra ball dva
and I am done listening to t2 preds by people
Is literally their strongest or second strongest comp
90% of people who say things about t2 players ends up wrong
Fury Dva, assassin sombra, decay tracer
That is the best sombra tracer in NA
Comprable with Fits Profit and Lip Fleta IMO
and Mag ball was def at least even with muze, if not better
not high on assassin sombra come on just run ttuba you bitches
heres one for the 10%, proper is gonna break the league next year
literally his property
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well depends which team hes joining
joining atlanta
a top 5 team he will look like he breaks the league
if proper joins a team like glads
shock to replace striker

nah he's gonna join toronto where they proceed to have another mediocre season
Or shd signs him and perma benches him
02Blast is new Atl academy
please, i need proper to go on a good team or go on a team w pelican
he goes red
thats my only two reqs
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Naga
yee
damn houston wash gonna be hard
you never know but who knowswell see
eh
they better not make a hanzo skin now, or they will make all lucio mains super annoyed 😄
im guessing its a ball or sigma skin for cc
What the fuck
honestly reqaper makes sense
play it on a phone, at least listen to it
when was the last dps all star skin 2018???
get well bro
I might legit pass out sadge
i can wash ur back if u need help
don't be the guy that dies in the shower
The only thing that can stop Mr from watching Paris is death
how many maps is paris taking?
3
they could win i wouldnr be shocked if they do win
sideshow is now "the other guy"
no bren is
I low key hope paris wins
oh boy im hyped
im going 3-2 dallas
btw i love how team city names make no sense whatsoever this season. i wonder that if OWL is going to be still alive post-pandemic, if Valiant really returns to LA
Rapel = zen right
Zen for ball
how good is Fielder's zen?
Oh fuck oh fuck how do I change my pickems?
eternal 3-1
oop
good for paris
kaan zen gonna pound
yeah i did 3-1 dallas
pharah is one of his comfort picks
pharmacy gonna be big this month
pre owl
nano sparkle one shots
Whats up guys
Sparkle's pharah is so damn good
all i remember is one clip of him barraging into an orisa shield
trueeeeeee
but then you see this
holy crap these airshots
@raw ermine nice name i guess?
aged poorly
did that 2 weeks ago
is pharah the best nano in this comp
Battle of the Pharahs XD
kaan is carrying
my pred looking good
lets go
kaan>rapel

Fuck if paris wins luigi is going to be so smug
lets go just as my nose sops bleeding i see paris win
PAris might have a chance
lmbao
naga?
he was looking for the barrage during a visor
damnnnnn
2 ults wasted
that helix was disgusting
pharah soldier meta
naga doesnt shoot a sleeping sparkle on his screen
cause they can't sub him out 5head
it's the way Paris works, we suck at the start
and dominate at the end
...
this is already looking like a fun meta
facts
i'll take pharah over echo any day
its been 2/3 of a map
still
that grapple spot
daan chad
im pretty sure this is like the 2nd time ever
kaan has been on zen
also what the fuck daan
daan diff
zen diff
bruh what sideshow
sideshow just said daan barely plays ball
im pretty sure he's been on ball mostly past few eeks
with his defense matrix
maybe it was not intentional?
he pressed right click
blocked
its a bug
naga???
zen diff
poooog
1 man emp
any winners
paris win now
double support ults
sparkle so big
sparkle is gonna fuck dridro
no mobility
bruuuuh
onigod pops off though
That stick
bro
good for my 3-1
team diff
Onigod clean
lets goooo
HOW THE HELL DO YOU LOSE THAT
dallas vs fuel today
huge
Now
bad for my 3-0
the thing is paris won the map and naga did air
Bruh how??
Stop playing rapel 
sigh
brig pressed q so no one died
I 3-1 as well
new name 
what they could play instead rapel
my pred looking quite good
jecse and rapel cant survive a full team dive
fearless twotrick like gator lmaaaaaao
Who is banned?
“Rapel dies again”
I know lucio and sigma is banned
sig, lucio ashe echo
they need to be closer to hanbin
So why is Fearless not on monkey?
probably next map : KINGS ROW
because ball > monke
it was an emp fight they had to play split
But we seen fearless can't do as much of stuff on ball
always ball
maybe orisa dva
hopefully double shield
sigma banned
I do think Dallas have made the right choice here trying to learn ball stuff seeing as they've already qualified for playoffs
My nan “what are they playing at?” “How did they lose that?”
rein and orisa??
They have Rapel in, how can they win that?
ur nan is dumb
They need a lucio for that
that was a really close map 1
yeah, probably
think this could go either way
like I think Dallas wins that if they swap off soldier sooner
they would have won if onigod wasn't such a big dick chad
Maybe we see a Moria ana comp from dallas if they sub in fielder
you dont pick
you dont pick maps unless its knockouts/playoffs
yeah, i saw that
shanghai 2 and 3
Sparky literally doing his hardest to deadlift rn
has lip played tracer at all since mm
uh
pls marry me onigod
I believe felta is doing that @north relic
all paris dps can play tracer
7th player
“Who’s that top left on Paris?” “Onigod” “He’s good he is”
im pretty sure onigod was supposed to be the cree and widow
how is lip still #3 tracer if he only played it during mm
but like onigod
has a cracked tracer
so tsuna is useless
maybe tsuna is the whacky hero player
is tsunas even the best tracer for paris anyway
lol
so i legit have no reason why he's there
“But take bloody Rapel out and put Fielder back in”
Ok
hasnt fielder played zen anyway
💀
why is rapel a thing then
“I think he’s bloody good”
id be fine with a new #1 in na
sans is scottish?
Paris would make me happy
sans is british
I just came in. Why are they running repel
same thing
true
Better on Zen than Fielder
baited trans
Dallas looks so destroyed
and baited bash
OMG
i remember that one time doha baited trans from myunbong
Dallas actually isn't doing anything
Those Chengdu matches must've really taken a toll
Cheers
Is rapel a zen one trick?
honestly kaan roty
WHY DID RAPEL TRANS THERE
Zen diff
I wonder if Rapel is ever played in scrims or if he's perma benched
zen diff
lol no he's getting diffed by kaan and zen is not kaans best hero
dallas getting bullied
“I am absolutely disgusted with Dallas for keeping Rapel in over Fielder and they are playing like a bunch of assholes” -nan
I'm just confused why they are playing rapel to being with
petition to make sans's gran a caster for owl
daan went flying
the pressure is on
For Zen
remember when there were rumors that paris was blacklisted from scrimming owl teams
and had to scrim bad contenders team
tracer diff
I thought jecse could play zen
why would they be blacklisted
huuuh???
actual c9
But I was wrong
Petition signed
Paris fans sadge
thats a thick c9
paris too hype
paric9
they need to calm down
Paris9
onigod doesnt miss these pulse bombs
that emp
rapel being carried by doha lmao
onigod throwing
Is it muscle memory for Rapel to press Q whenever his ult is active?
na production
yup
lmfao daans camera
i mean this is kinda perfect for paris
they have a top tier tracer playing against a bad zen
if the tracer can pick off the tracer consistently
ez w
onigod is good but isnt top tier
if onigod isn't top tier then who is
people like fleta profit ofc
i wouldnt compare onigod to them
c9 again
c9 again
one of the best tracers rn
would you guys say sparkle is a top tier tracer
Onigod is not on the same level as Leave, Fleta and Profit
Yeah because he is better
kaan died in 0.1 second
this is legit just back and forth
i havent seen fearless do anything yet
its ball meta ofc he's gonna be a background character
shock should be pretty good in this meta
paris actual chads
ans tracer??
top tier tracer
shut the frick up
oniGOD
wow
why is he such a chad
lmao
LOL
big dick kaan
onigod literally doesnt miss pulse bombs, even if its onto himself
Wow
like kabaji
they need to be playing someone on payload otherwise its easy stall overtime easy sweep by dallas
onigod has gotten at least 1 kill every pulse im pretty sure
or that
blink blink blink boom
So how bad is fielder's zen to the point we're seeing rapel get playtime?
i feel like paris is dominating but its pretty close
Like I thought rapel was in permabench hell
kaan not fair
i mean like
they gotta check his pc
they're checking him PC now
yep
fearless comes in next game 100% i bet
Friendly reminder that Rapel technically won a title
fielder lmao
why not play fielder's zen? isn't his zen really good?
not fearless
develop has more titles than carpe






