esports-discussion

[noble nexus]

dpei flops with every roster

dpei fucking sucks

[willow tartan]

in what role

or just

all time

[north relic]

all time

i think jjonak carpe is a lock

[willow tartan]

all time greatest overwatch players

[tawdry hamlet]

idk all time is debatable because a lot of s1 goats are like shit now

[willow tartan]

overwatch league

[tawdry hamlet]

so it depends

[willow tartan]

or

[north relic]

striker probably

[tropic herald]

Fortnitefish

[willow tartan]

all all time

?

[north relic]

owl league lets say

[willow tartan]

overwatch league league

[tropic herald]

Ok

[north relic]

youtube algorithm

[tropic herald]

Striker

[tawdry hamlet]

If Coluge wasn't such a meme lord he would have made owl over frd or vestola lowkey

[north relic]

so top 5 owl players of all time?

[tropic herald]

Striker Fleta uhhh

[willow tartan]

carpe

[lilac kestrel]

ryujehong

[north relic]

jjonak carpe

[tawdry hamlet]

it is kind of getting ridiculous how good he is to just be that random contenders guy with long history

Coluge for owl

[north relic]

maybe super?

[willow tartan]

fate

o7

[north relic]

fate maybe

[tropic herald]

Jjonak and Carpe feel like legacy players rn

Profit

[north relic]

yep

yes profit

[tawdry hamlet]

nearly every single one of these players are owl level

[willow tartan]

profit def

speedily 4 owl

[north relic]

yea

what about fury?

[tropic herald]

Free Fortnitefish

[willow tartan]

why ultraviolet no owl

[tawdry hamlet]

this darkmode roster is fun loll s9mm from gauntlet tornado, iced, Mikeyy Coluge and Lukemino and Provide

I enjoy this roster

[tropic herald]

They are 17

[willow tartan]

17, 18

close enough right?

[lilac kestrel]

fleta, profit, ryu (there has to be someone from shock for the 2 timers) and then fate

[willow tartan]

striker

[tawdry hamlet]

why do I keep forgetting Provide is Slur

[willow tartan]

provide is a slur???

tf

[tawdry hamlet]

good for him making a comeback

the player provide

[willow tartan]

o

yea

[tawdry hamlet]

used to be in owl on valiant as slur

but never played a map

[willow tartan]

valiant literally having slur in their roster

[tawdry hamlet]

and got let go for some old shit he said or something

[willow tartan]

love it

[tropic herald]

Fleta Profit Striker Fury Jjonak

[willow tartan]

what are the most winningest players of all time?

[lilac kestrel]

yeah, striker

[tawdry hamlet]

idk if it is a hot take because I wasn't into owl as much back then but imo ryujehong overrated as fuck

[lilac kestrel]

hes kinda goated

[willow tartan]

like

[north relic]

no carpe?

[willow tartan]

who is the most heavily decorated overwatch player of all time

[tropic herald]

Carpe no titles in owl

[earnest leaf]

iirc at the time rjh was actually pretty good

just didn't keep up

[tropic herald]

Ryu was alright before owl but now he’s

Ya know

[lilac kestrel]

its ow all time tho

[willow tartan]

wait who were the rotys in the previous season?

[lilac kestrel]

he was a big name since day 0

[tawdry hamlet]

dude played on csgo sense, I imagine in todays game he wouldn't make it, dude was on 400 4.3 that is literally 800 2.15

[earnest leaf]

Alarm last year

[tropic herald]

Haksal and Alarm

[willow tartan]

yea

[tropic herald]

Pelican or Shy this year

[willow tartan]

so which single owl player has the most stage wins

[tropic herald]

Izayaki and Rascal tied

[lilac kestrel]

fleta

[tropic herald]

I believe

[lilac kestrel]

i think he has been on all 4 shd wins (shock only has 3)

[north relic]

fearles maybe?

[tawdry hamlet]

fun fact if valiant hadn't imploded they traded ksf for agilities and toronto traded agilities for naist. I wonder why agilities was valued so high

[tropic herald]

Izzy has 5 and rascal has 4/5 I can’t remember

[earnest leaf]

his genji is actually pretty good

[tawdry hamlet]

I also wonder why tf he would go back to la after the in and out burger thing lmaoo

[willow tartan]

o yeah

izayaki the most winningest player of all time

[tawdry hamlet]

and yeah his genji is all he has going hes mid or below at the rest

but his summer showdown genji dragging toronto was hype

I enjoyed that

[willow tartan]

well technically rascal would be higher since

actually won the szn

[lilac kestrel]

if iziyaki keeps up his performance he is certainly a contender

hes just less flashy than fleta

[tropic herald]

Shy is gonna be roty watch out

[lilac kestrel]

who received POTM in both back to back stage finals

[tawdry hamlet]

can we pour one out for the homie highly? dude got passed on so teams could sign new talent and put them on the bench permanently :(((

[lilac kestrel]

pelican tho, AR have far more league sucess

[north relic]

wasnt he only last year london or smth

[tawdry hamlet]

it is almost strange to see the individual success of the s3 london players nowadays

[willow tartan]

LIP for MVP

[north relic]

if justice or chengdu keep it up mag or gaga could get roty

[tawdry hamlet]

jmac as a coach, although and babel in contenders, glister on shock

[tropic herald]

Alarm last year proving your team doesn’t have to get stages

Shy just fucks

[willow tartan]

philly was final 4....

[lilac kestrel]

this is hard to argue against

[willow tartan]

and the highest regular season record in NA

[tropic herald]

Philly didn’t win a map in grand finals

[willow tartan]

yes

that is true

[tropic herald]

Sad!

[willow tartan]

but alarm good and fusion good

[tropic herald]

Shy god

[tawdry hamlet]

philly also had sado hog

[willow tartan]

hangzhou also good but NA bias

[lilac kestrel]

thats a simp right there

[tropic herald]

Shy on any NA team would be an upgrade

[willow tartan]

guaranteed

[tropic herald]

Mald

[willow tartan]

no

guaranteed roty will be NA player

bias exist

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't think shy isn't a contender for rookie of the year, it is just hard to imagine a rookie of the year from apac unless they were on a top 2 apac team

[tropic herald]

POV you load into a game against chinas World Cup team and the dps duo is Leave Shy

[willow tartan]

if they make an apac player roty 70% of the community is gonna whomegalul them

[lilac kestrel]

i proceed to dodge, save my teammates the sr

[tawdry hamlet]

[willow tartan]

leave shy has to happen in some way or some form

all stars chinese super team

[tawdry hamlet]

I forgot that including main support fuze london had a 12 man roster lmao

[willow tartan]

wtf

tabbed out only to see AT running hog dva

[lilac kestrel]

honestly this years mvp should just be teamspeak for the shd

[willow tartan]

excuse me what the fuck

[lilac kestrel]

that won them the most games

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah that do be what is happening

American Tornado moment

American Tornado is just the strongest team in NA still but the Darkmode Roster this month is really nice

[willow tartan]

theyre doing the "fuck you" strategy where they play whatever they want and get away with it

[tawdry hamlet]

Darkmode should probably just mirror rush

since playing in na or eu t2 without playing rush is suicide unless you are fusion uni

[willow tartan]

they would lose in the rush mirror

why would they do that

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah but they lose this one too lmaoo

[willow tartan]

whats wrong with not playing rush

let them be interesting man

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah no I agree, I personally hate mei cree sym rush my least fav to watch besides neo goats, but it just feels like in NA and EU t2 unless you are a top tier roster not playing rush just fucks you

[willow tartan]

yo what is s9m's target prioritisation

duplicate on echo, immediately fuck off making no space for your team

[tawdry hamlet]

I do enjoy the fact that gauntlet tornado that was unstoppable had s9mm and cucumber and at one point they had iced as well

[willow tartan]

hey look theyre not playing rush

forcing the mirror? kinda poggers darkmode

[tawdry hamlet]

mei sym 🤮

[willow tartan]

mei sym make me want to die

[tropic herald]

Uprising Acad

[willow tartan]

even more than usual

[tawdry hamlet]

remember the adam gig uprising academy last month :((

they got knocked out like instantly

[willow tartan]

if american tornado was an OWL team

where would you rate them on power rankings

[tawdry hamlet]

but the adam dank tankline is dope

we love australians who played on a chinese contenders team owning in na

[willow tartan]

hell yeah

diversity n shit

does he speak chinese well?

[tawdry hamlet]

no idea

I just know dank was the only australian on a chinese t2 team for a while iirc

[gusty rampart]

25th place on Pickems

No Lucio statue rip

[willow tartan]

25th globally?

thats not bad

[gusty rampart]

Nodders

[willow tartan]

shouldve predded the summer showdown properly smh

[gusty rampart]

The NYXL Philly match fucked me up

[earnest leaf]

I feel like top 50 should get like 100 owl tokens or something

[willow tartan]

yea but they dont need to do that

ppl are perfectly happy as it is now

[gusty rampart]

I knew I'd fuck them up somehow lol

[willow tartan]

what about your tournament bracket

how did that go

[gusty rampart]

Oh

Betted on Dragons

[vast smelt]

Shanghai have won the tournament undoubtebly

[gusty rampart]

Didn't expect Fuel to get KOd

[vast smelt]

the season is theirs

[gusty rampart]

Shanghai too good

[vast smelt]

yeah the fuel are a lot weaker now that everyone knows their weakness

[gusty rampart]

NYXL? Cringe
Shanghai?

[willow tartan]

The season is theirs [incoming Blizzard playoffs patch making hog genji meta]

[vast smelt]

and they refuse to actually fix the problem

[gusty rampart]

Pharah lmao

[vast smelt]

I know

and yet they still lost 3-1 to chengdu

[gusty rampart]

Pine needs to get there

[vast smelt]

nah

[gusty rampart]

He's their only hope

[willow tartan]

pine is not playing until the post season

man is trapped in Korea

[gusty rampart]

At least he can play Hitscan

[vast smelt]

pine deserves to be back on NYXL

they need him more than dallas do

[willow tartan]

no they dont

[vast smelt]

dallas don't need him

[willow tartan]

gwangboong > pine

[gusty rampart]

Flora isn't bad

[vast smelt]

fair fair

[gusty rampart]

Neither is gwangboong

[vast smelt]

but gwangboong and feath5r are their best bet honestly

[tawdry hamlet]

ny doesn't need dps so much they let ivy retire

[vast smelt]

Kalios is doing quite well

[tawdry hamlet]

flora on tracer go brrr

[gusty rampart]

NYXL redemption arc

[vast smelt]

I think they need someone instead of friday and they'll do great

tobi would be a good fit

[gusty rampart]

I no longer have to hide being a NYXL fan

[tawdry hamlet]

finally a fellow friday hater

[vast smelt]

I don't hate friday by any means

[gusty rampart]

Friday worst main Support in the League

[vast smelt]

He's a fantastic player

[willow tartan]

fair

but

i present to you

fire

fuck that guy

[gusty rampart]

Even then

[vast smelt]

but I think that there are definitely better flex supports

[gusty rampart]

Lmao what did Fire do

[vast smelt]

do you know what I mean??

[willow tartan]

What didn't fire do

[vast smelt]

Friday is quite mediocre

[tawdry hamlet]

Fire made the mistake of existing on that roster :(((

even if he was good you would never know lmao

since main support hard to notice already, and then on top of that his team is ass

[vast smelt]

when they say that pharah counters wrecking ball

[gusty rampart]

I don't think he's the problem with Titans

[vast smelt]

nah

dalton is

[willow tartan]

i thought fire got carried in contenders

[gusty rampart]

Definitely their main tank

[vast smelt]

he has the thing I call Carpe tunnel

he tries way too hard to aim and doesn't actually focus on just hitting shots

[tawdry hamlet]

Dalton hasn't played in ages, I think, Changsik is the reason they lose so much besides roolf

[willow tartan]

true

[vast smelt]

did you see the game against the shock?

[tawdry hamlet]

roolf and changsik are creative

[willow tartan]

what the fuck does this mean

[gusty rampart]

1. Ping
2. I don't think he speaks English

[vast smelt]

dalton didn't hit a single shot on viol2t

[gusty rampart]

That's just funny

[vast smelt]

yeah

[earnest leaf]

ping and not speaking english doesn't make you int your brains off

[tawdry hamlet]

he was on the mixed roster funi team he has some english, but he hadn't played in two years and he is on ping lmao

[earnest leaf]

Also dalton is semi-competent

[vast smelt]

especially when viol2t was in front of dalton

[tawdry hamlet]

he looks like shit regardless

[earnest leaf]

not really that good but not roolf/changsik levels

[gusty rampart]

Imo Valiant>>Titans

[vast smelt]

they are the team to beat

NYXL are the team to lose to

[willow tartan]

okay but

[tawdry hamlet]

in the current meta yeah valiant > titans but if silver3 had to play anything besides ball I don't see them having a good time unless krystal can carry on the tracer

[vast smelt]

tho NYXL are still quite good

[gusty rampart]

Dragons laughed at the 4-0 curse and won

[vast smelt]

yo that is actually hilarious

[balmy wolf]

random thought

[vast smelt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/233904315247362048/866855190288531466/hybrid_god_at_the_game-1-1.gif

[balmy wolf]

what happens if a bug happens during a game

[vast smelt]

Who mains who here?

[balmy wolf]

is the match thrown out

[willow tartan]

the player using the bug gets banned for bug abuse

[earnest leaf]

why type of bug

[vast smelt]

I am an Ana and mcree main

[balmy wolf]

oh i mean like a gameplay glitch or bug

[balmy wolf]

echo, mercy, ashe, zenyatta

[willow tartan]

well in the past when abilities were buggy they just rolled with it

cough hook

cough shatter

[earnest leaf]

Depends on the severity I assume

[balmy wolf]

interesting

[willow tartan]

it's like getting CSGOd but in overwatch

[tawdry hamlet]

buggy abilities, doomfist

[willow tartan]

just bugs

[vast smelt]

cough lamp

[earnest leaf]

we've seen like 3 people get fucked mid game because of doom bugs already

[willow tartan]

unlooky

[vast smelt]

Izayaki kills everyone with this

I think zen is emerging and the new meta

[barren quest]

Like Sp3rkle

[willow tartan]

sp0rkle

[barren quest]

And well Chipsa

[vast smelt]

do you think west teams will actually play hammond?

[willow tartan]

no

[vast smelt]

or do you think it's just APAC?

[willow tartan]

yes

[vast smelt]

I think the west should step it up

[north relic]

only justice plays hammond

[willow tartan]

na teams will try ball but it wont be the dominant meta in NA

maybe a few teams pick him up

[barren quest]

NA teams for the most part always preferred Orisa and brawl comps

[willow tartan]

but itll be considred niche

[vast smelt]

and ever wondered why the shock aren't finding success

[willow tartan]

cause theyre doing shit

all of them are boomed

[vast smelt]

I think it's the loss of rascal and striker

[willow tartan]

you cant pin it down on one thing

[tacit skiff]

they're still #2 in na

[willow tartan]

but the loss of striker rascal moth didnt help

[barren quest]

Question roster choices

[vast smelt]

and teams have gotten a lot better compeaired to last year

[barren quest]

Like putting Viol2t on DPS

[willow tartan]

if we wanted to blame one thing though

VIOL2T LUCIO

holy shit

i fucking hate that so m uch

[earnest leaf]

because shock play roster musical chairs

[willow tartan]

i want to shoot whoever put viol2t on lucio

[tawdry hamlet]

it actually pains me that as bad as they are rn they are second na regular season

like how this happen man

[barren quest]

Yo I'm hyped for the Viol2t Zarya

[vast smelt]

They aren't number 2 that's atlanta

[willow tartan]

no its shock

shock is number 2

they have more league points

higher regular season record

[barren quest]

Sounds like something that would actually happen

[tawdry hamlet]

by win loss record not by actual ability

[earnest leaf]

record wise shock is #2 na

[tawdry hamlet]

atlanta atm is better yeah

[willow tartan]

will we ever get the fusion shock rematch

we should do it for fun

[tacit skiff]

dumdum regular season, not the tournies

[vast smelt]

how is it that the shock are second yet they've never made it to a tourney?

[willow tartan]

the two washed teams fight each other

[tawdry hamlet]

because they lose knockouts or don't make knockouts at all

[willow tartan]

cuz theyre 9-3

[vast smelt]

glister widow

[willow tartan]

atlanta is 7-5

[vast smelt]

they needed striker

[trail perch]

Loss of moth and rascal hurt the most

[vast smelt]

and striker

one of their best

[earnest leaf]

went 3-1 may melee, 4-0 june joust, then 2-2 SS

Also I hate the talk about which loss hurt the most tbh

[tacit skiff]

every na team but Dallas (since now) has sucked ass in tournies
so Dallas is the only NA team with extra points

[barren quest]

Can't wait for the playoffs patch that overbuffs Junkrat

[vast smelt]

even reaquiring ans wasn't enough

[earnest leaf]

It's not a specific individual loss

[willow tartan]

yeah because the answer was obvious

[earnest leaf]

It's losing ALL of it at the same time

[vast smelt]

Ans is one of their best

[earnest leaf]

Like losing ans/moth/rascal/junkbuck/arachne all at once really hurt

[tawdry hamlet]

loses 4 players and 2 coaches yet (insert player) is the reason they bad

[willow tartan]

shock's worst loss in the off season was junkbuck

[tawdry hamlet]

[vast smelt]

but they're not playing him for a dum reason

[earnest leaf]

Losing just one at a time would have been workable

ans isn't playing unless widow/ashe is hard meta

[willow tartan]

sell ans buy striker moth back

[tacit skiff]

shock fans are high on copium after two seasons of winning

[earnest leaf]

otherwise glister is better for the flexibility

[vast smelt]

They could've gotten rid of everyone but moth was the straw that broke the camel's back

[willow tartan]

honestly

[earnest leaf]

nah it's all at the same time

[vast smelt]

ans and striker are the best dps they could have

[earnest leaf]

if they lost only moth, they would have been perfectly fine

[willow tartan]

ehhh

even if they still had ans this season

[vast smelt]

they aren't playing ans and striker retired because of a lack of play time

[willow tartan]

it wouldve been useless

[vast smelt]

this is crusty's fault

[earnest leaf]

moth was benched half the season already when they had bapt/brig

[tawdry hamlet]

ans in this meta is useless

[earnest leaf]

and they still rolled

[tawdry hamlet]

they have sombra for him

[vast smelt]

moth is lucio at best

[tacit skiff]

don't blame crusty wtf

[tawdry hamlet]

and he is just ok at sombra

[tacit skiff]

every team crusty has been on has been too tier

[willow tartan]

like what wouldve ans done during the may melee june joust and summer showdown tournaments

[vast smelt]

crusty caused the loss of striker

[willow tartan]

??

striker wanted to retire

you cant force people to stay

[tacit skiff]

striker left bcuz he wanted to

[vast smelt]

nope

[earnest leaf]

nah crusty been on some shit this season

[vast smelt]

he wasn't getting enough play time

[tawdry hamlet]

striker wanted out I doubt it was a lack of playtime if he was being used like every other map lmao

[tacit skiff]

is this what shock fans are like

[vast smelt]

ha

[tacit skiff]

are shock fans this high on copium

[vast smelt]

well done 🙂

[gusty rampart]

I still miss Striker

[earnest leaf]

no one is high on copium here what

[willow tartan]

diem

[vast smelt]

geguri is missed

[gusty rampart]

I'm on a 24/7 supply of hopium

For NYXL

[tawdry hamlet]

no they are referring to blaming crusty for not playing striker enough as copium not you

[vast smelt]

SHANGHAI UNDOUBTBLY WIN THE SEASON 4-2 IN THE FINALS AGAINST THE FUEL

[tacit skiff]

Geguri got benched for two years
I bet she's relieved that she got released

[tawdry hamlet]

she is streamer now

[willow tartan]

lol no

fuel isnt gonna be in the finals

neither will be shanghai

because itll be a playoffs patch

[tawdry hamlet]

I got a gift sub to her from some random Korean person

[balmy wolf]

cowopiuwum

[tacit skiff]

congrats to the fuel and the dragons for being the first two teams with guaranteed spots in the playoffs!

[gusty rampart]

Based Korean person

[willow tartan]

whats the reverse of hopium

im on that

[tawdry hamlet]

I would watch her more but she and chat are all Korean speakers so thus I do not understand outside of the gameplay

[tacit skiff]

nopium

[gusty rampart]

Dragons too good

[vast smelt]

dragosn win

[tawdry hamlet]

ayy I couldn't actually think of it thanks lmaoo

[willow tartan]

dragons good but i can already feel that blizzard will dick them over for the playoffs

[vast smelt]

fuel no

[willow tartan]

mark my words

[vast smelt]

nah

[gusty rampart]

Dragons is our 2021 champions

[vast smelt]

you're wrong

[willow tartan]

i dont want to get my hopes up

[tacit skiff]

can't wait for these upcoming hero ban announcements

[earnest leaf]

dragon fans gonna mald when finals meta isn't ball

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean at this point in the season last year it was pretty clear cut shanghai would get second or first and look what happened

anything is possible

[tacit skiff]

genuinely, please ban ball

[tawdry hamlet]

Dragon fans when the final is rush

[earnest leaf]

and then spark or some shit becomes the best in apac

[willow tartan]

as a shanghai supporter i'm paranoid

[vast smelt]

yeah

[willow tartan]

cant get my hopes up

[tacit skiff]

you should be
you can only go down from here

[north relic]

Wait you support shd?

[willow tartan]

no

[gusty rampart]

Shock Three-peat

[earnest leaf]

Hastro gonna bribe aaron keller to nerf ball before finals

[willow tartan]

who wouldve guessed

[tawdry hamlet]

look at it this way though, they don't have a bad tank to resort to for no reason this yeear

so they should be fine

[willow tartan]

fate is way more well rounded than fearless

[north relic]

How is fate hog

[earnest leaf]

fate gives shd a higher ceiling but lower floor

[tacit skiff]

London fans just happy that their first win is coming up in August :)

[earnest leaf]

Fearless gave them a higher ceiling but a lower floor

[tawdry hamlet]

if London somehow lose to Titans I will genuinely mald, I am not a London fan but they have the clear roster advantage in every role here lmao

[tacit skiff]

Underdog supporters wya

enough of these bandwagon folk

[tawdry hamlet]

everywhere always lmao

[north relic]

Both tanklines are bad

[willow tartan]

okay what if the playoffs patch is a hard double hitscan meta and shock 3peat anyway off the back of glister ans

[tawdry hamlet]

molf is good

frd is good

[north relic]

Ig

[tawdry hamlet]

then the dps lines,

and the rest just exist

[tacit skiff]

Paris and Boston vs NYXL and Charge in the Countdown Cup

[north relic]

Kellex mercy has one of the lowest death rates iirc

[tawdry hamlet]

but hadi monkey has one of the highest

[willow tartan]

or what if the playoffs meta is mei sym rush

[tacit skiff]

2v2 format sounds lit
Get three players from four teams and make em play together

[tacit skiff]

Shock dub

[earnest leaf]

would be pretty open for a lot of teams tbh

Atlanta/shock/fuel/glads/houston

[tawdry hamlet]

sparkle is unironically best sym in the league even Danny agrees

[tacit skiff]

Nero could clutch that up easily

[north relic]

Nah Taiyo sym

[willow tartan]

washington

[earnest leaf]

I don't fully trust mag yet

[tacit skiff]

Checkmate Rein beats all comps

[earnest leaf]

and decay sym

[willow tartan]

meta is double shield and chadmate wins

to be honest im exaggerating

dragons wouldnt be bad at a rush meta

[tacit skiff]

It wouldn't be their strongest tho

[willow tartan]

problem is finding the scrim partners for rush outside of fusion

[north relic]

How is lip sym

[tawdry hamlet]

if Florida win a single game with Checkmate on rein that isn't against an ez team like London or Titans I will die inside

[north relic]

Didn’t Seoul play rush or smth

[willow tartan]

yea

[tacit skiff]

Almost won against Dallas, they can win against anyone tbh

[willow tartan]

their rush got dumpstered by shanghai

but

[tacit skiff]

But Florida's schedule isn't very easy this tournie

[willow tartan]

it is what it is

[tawdry hamlet]

in fairness how does dallas prepare for a rein that presses shift right in front of their frontline

lmao

[willow tartan]

counterpin

3head

[tacit skiff]

Expect the unexpected

[tawdry hamlet]

Lijang Checkmate was peak 5 head strats

lmao

[north relic]

But they are behind them with tp

[willow tartan]

unironically checkmate pinning is a good strategy

because if fearless counterpins then both tanks on the ground

denying fearless value

so florida stands a chance at winning

[tacit skiff]

You would never expect your pro opponent to play like a low Diamond player

That's the perfect strategy

Turn it into all out chaos

like a Diamond game

[willow tartan]

1 for 1 trade fearless chadmate

its mathematics

just give florida a double shield ashe tracer meta

[tacit skiff]

Florida about to steamroll everyone with a pin

[north relic]

Double shield Ashe tracer for shd

[willow tartan]

void on the sigma 🙏

[tacit skiff]

what are old spice ads

what the hell did I just watch

[willow tartan]

hey anyway darkmode reverse sweep btw

[north relic]

Anyone remember that hand excerise ad on owl

[tacit skiff]

the what

[willow tartan]

at literally throwing

[vast smelt]

Checkmate had his finger glued to charge against dallas lol

[willow tartan]

holy jesus that engagement was sexy

[north relic]

https://youtu.be/DkWJgqcpSEE 4:18

[tacit skiff]

ive seen this video b4

[wet oak]

So it it true that there is no owl this upcoming weekend?

[north relic]

Yes

[willow tartan]

yes

[tacit skiff]

no owl for the next week

on break

[wet oak]

Ok thank you

[tacit skiff]

Shanghai needs to rest their backs

Chengdu needs some crying time

[north relic]

Shanghai can throw rest of the season and still be 1st apac

[tacit skiff]

Dallas needs to pray that Ball gets banned

If ball doesn't get banned, this will be the first season that the script writers are on Shanghai's side

[earnest leaf]

Dva most likely will get banned

[willow tartan]

wtf is the clip after the ad?

that mercy physically assaulted my ears

[earnest leaf]

rein/winston also both have more playtime than ball this stage

[tacit skiff]

ban ball anyway

bcuz I said so

hmph

[willow tartan]

i mean...

during the grand finals they were running winston not ball

now i know thats because they know they can beat chengdu that way and its less risky

but

banning ball wont do much to shake up stuff

[tacit skiff]

ban ball anyway

I hate rats

ban ana sym reaper ball

or just

pick random heroes

like the good old days

[willow tartan]

ana sym reaper ball

itll be mei cree rush

literally cancer

[tacit skiff]

good

I want chaos

[willow tartan]

who the fuck unironically likes watching mei cree rush

[earnest leaf]

mei mcree I don't mind so much

it's the mei sym that is mind numbing

[tacit skiff]

I want nobody to be able to tell what's going on
and I don't want anyone to enjoy watching it

[willow tartan]

june joust meta pt 2

[tacit skiff]

I can get behind that

[willow tartan]

youre a masochist

[tacit skiff]

the jj was boring
the mm was eh
the ss was at least interesting until Chengdu failed their most important match

so I say
let's spice things up

[earnest leaf]

Give me a rein dva lucio ana widow tracer meta

[willow tartan]

what

???

[earnest leaf]

actually

cree tracer

[tacit skiff]

one day pine will play again
one day in the hopefully not far off future

[willow tartan]

reiner copium

[willow tartan]

Like next season?

[tacit skiff]

if pine can only play next season, he should've just waited

[willow tartan]

well pine didnt know that covid would still be this bad and he still cant get a visa

[tacit skiff]

that whole owl "welcome back pine" video is like two months old now

[willow tartan]

its better that he started the process as soon as he could

[earnest leaf]

Tis the visa lottery

could not get one till october

or could get one tomorrow

[tacit skiff]

smuggle pine in illegally

it's urgent

[willow tartan]

if anything poko deserves a visa fuck pine

[tacit skiff]

who lmao

[willow tartan]

???

[tacit skiff]

is this how long they've been gone

that I just don't remember them

[earnest leaf]

The sexy frenchman in the league

[willow tartan]

poko was signed in the off season

and he literally hasnt played a match

still stuck in europe

until now

[tacit skiff]

for who? Paris?

[willow tartan]

Fusion

[tacit skiff]

ah

would he make that big of a diff for Philly tho?

this is Philly we're talking about

[willow tartan]

man deserves to play

[tacit skiff]

every player deserves to play, and not on high ping
poor kevster

[willow tartan]

roolf doesnt deserve to play

[barren quest]

Kevster has been in LA with the rest of the team nowadays so he doesn't have to worry about ping

[tepid ibex]

He’s in la isn’t he?

[tacit skiff]

now he is

I think this was like his first tournie with his team

he's playing better now tho

it's making a difference

[tawdry hamlet]

average discussion with @plush grail
https://twitter.com/Aspen_OW/status/1417236079778877444?s=20

Aspen (@Aspen_OW)

talking to europeans be like

Likes

704

Twitter · Jul 19, 2021, 9:33 PM

[tropic herald]

True

[willow tartan]

who tf are those people

oh

scottishland

no wonder

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/poko/status/1415319074993803269

Poko (@poko)

me too bro me too... 😟 https://t.co/PyN3VZBgby

Likes

2233

Twitter · Jul 14, 2021, 2:35 PM

[balmy wolf]

https://youtu.be/Xrs50cx1eHU

Emp and tracer c9 was amazing

[idle beacon]

i thought lips kamikaze is the best emp

[plush grail]

EU > NA

[ivory mason]

that emp was one of the best emps i have seen

[plush grail]

naga > fleta

@tropic herald

[tired zodiac]

who's the best ball in the league ?

fate?

[tawdry hamlet]

fate gaga ameng and uhh whoever the fuck else plays ball besides silver3 and yakpung because they both suck

smurf ig idk lmao

genuinely blanking on naming more than like 5 players who are known for being "good" at ball, like guxue silver3 etc play him but they aren't "good" at him

the Ameng fleta stick was amusing

[plush grail]

Gaga, fate, ameng, mag, Daan

[tawdry hamlet]

am I having a stroke or are there really barely any ball players I swear there were more

[plush grail]

Every team has played ball

But there are very few actual good balls

[tawdry hamlet]

that would make more sense

[plush grail]

You know the amount of good balls is scarce when Daan is in the top 5

[forest raven]

He's not but go off son

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean who is though like genuinely lmao

fate gaga ameng

I guess smurf maybe

uhh mag

and like who tf else lmao

[noble nexus]

super

[willow drum]

Which teams do you think make playoffs in NA?

[forest raven]

Fate, Gaga, Ameng, Mag, Smurf, super

[tawdry hamlet]

Lowkey swore there were more memorable ball players than that but my mind is blank lmao. Sheesh. Guess I'm just so used to there being like 59262780 good Winston players that ball is throwing me off

[plush grail]

SMURF AND SUPER TOP TIER BALLS?/

ur trolling

right

ur legit just not willing to accept that daan is one of the best balls

[feral zodiac]

There are like 3 players that are known for their ball

Actually I can't think of any other than fate and ameng

[sullen berry]

Theres at least 6

One of them still waiting to receive playtime indefinitely

To the person in the back who asked if the head coach is in China now, yes he is

[plush grail]

in owl dumbass

not contenders

[sullen berry]

You've done better

[plush grail]

what

[little tusk]

do we know the hero bans yet

for countdown cup

damn a lot of talking about good balls in here

[raw ermine]

not yet I believe

[little tusk]

I'm actually glad ppl here are respecting naga

every time I saw him play I thought he was gud

[forest raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyEWqsB8uQ4

Best rein the world

[plush grail]

no

naga is good

but the onigod naga duo

is amazing

they're both so flexible

[hot onyx]

They’re about as flexible as a Stretch Armstrong made out of titanium

[little tusk]

ngl I think onigod is a mechanical nut

[hot onyx]

So was Xzi

Mid tier widow/cree two trick replacing a high tier widow/cree two trick

[little tusk]

who

onigod?

[hot onyx]

🇾🇪

[plush grail]

naga has legit played every hero im pretty sure

maybe missing some heroes like widow and sym

[hot onyx]

Carpe played every hero

Doesn’t mean he’s good

[forest raven]

Leave plays every hero

He is good

[hot onyx]

Well yeah but Leave is on a team that has accomplished something more than 1 knockout appearance

[plush grail]

@hot onyxu support fusion my man

u have one of the most flexible players in owl history on ur team

stil getting shit on

[hot onyx]

I also have Hotba on my team

Care to trade for Vestola?

[plush grail]

on paper the fusion should be a #1 team

[plush grail]

no vestola's cracked as fuck

[hot onyx]

So is Godba

More like God-I miss Poko

[plush grail]

everyone point and laugh

and point and laugh again

[hot onyx]

Ok Mr “I lost a map to Spitfire and Titans”

[plush grail]

u fucking lost a map to the la valiant

the spitfire and titans are shit

but at least they're not all playing on off-roles with no coaching

[hot onyx]

Dude shut

Valiant are better than Titans

[plush grail]

HAHAHAHA

please keep malding

[hot onyx]

Dude Valiant has like 3 players that could make it on a half decent owl team

Teru is the only player on Titans who deserves to be in owl

You’re telling me FRD > Showcheng

Linkzr > Dalton

Roolf > Anyone

[plush grail]

linkzr and dalton are on the same team dumbass

[hot onyx]

Fuck

Krystal*

My brain didn’t know which to pick so I big upped for both

[little tusk]

I'm not sure if ur talking about rascal or eqo lol

[plush grail]

naga ofc

[hot onyx]

Ah yes Naga is on the Fusion

My 2nd favourite Philly fdps

[little tusk]

yeah lmao wut

[devout path]

Reminder that Boston > Paris

[hot onyx]

Reminder that Boston lost 3-0 to Glads

[north relic]

Reminder that Paris beat Glads

[little tusk]

didnt paris beat boston

[devout path]

Who made knockouts twice

Certainly not paris

[north relic]

didnt boston get 3-0d twice

and paris beat boston before knockouts

[sullen berry]

Ask your local Paris fan

[worn falcon]

This wait feels like pain

[sullen berry]

The wait wasn't catered for casuals in school

!!when does summer break end for school in the US

[young fractal]

soon™️

[north relic]

that’s a command?

[raw ermine]

!!when

[young fractal]

soon™️

[north relic]

Is there a way to see all the commands you can do

[sullen berry]

Yeah, it came with the regulars starter kit nobody shares anymore

!!whotoplay

[young fractal]

Ashe

[north relic]

Three plat chat streams this week

[sullen berry]

What

[devout path]

!!commanfs

!!commands

Wait

[mortal abyss]

https://twitter.com/spex_j/status/1417505114185740288?s=21

Jon Spector (@Spex_J)

With this type of temptation out there, I think it's best that I abdicate any responsibility for the drawing of #OWL2021 Countdown Cup hero bans.

We will be engaging a group of individuals of the highest professionalism in the OWL community to handle the process tomorrow.

Twitter · Jul 20, 2021, 3:22 PM

[vagrant cargo]

paris>boston

i have boston 6th in NA

1.dallas 2.justice/atlanta 4.Glads 5.Paris 6.boston

[tacit skiff]

based

[mortal abyss]

https://twitter.com/alarm/status/1417503259439239174?s=20

Alarm (@alarm)

20 :)

Likes

181

Twitter · Jul 20, 2021, 3:14 PM

It’s alarms birthday

[raw ermine]

and tommorrow is poko and me. finally, I can join OWL. cya nerds later

[mortal abyss]

You have the same birthday as alarm, he’s just in Korea time so he’s in the 21st rn

Poko is also on the 21st

[raw ermine]

not according to liquipedia. my source for everything, ever

[mortal abyss]

Eh

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/MLGPuckett/status/1417504375791136768

Puckett For Hire (@MLGPuckett)

Overwatch Fam:

I still got huge love for you! Thanks to everyone from the Blizzard Arena and my talent family for reaching out. Your messages of encouragement mean a ton on the rough days!

Twitter · Jul 20, 2021, 3:19 PM

https://twitter.com/ATLReign/status/1417508793588584452

Atlanta Reign (@ATLReign)

We're filming an AMA with the team today! Submit your questions below! ⬇️

#LetItReign

Twitter · Jul 20, 2021, 3:36 PM

[trail perch]

!!update

!!whenupdate

tf is the command

[north relic]

!!patch

[young fractal]

The regular patch time is 18:00 UTC/GMT.
This is 11am PT, 2pm ET, 8pm CEST, 4am AEST.
**Countdown: 1 hour, 46 minutes ** ✨

[tawdry hamlet]

Watching old titans games I'm getting more and more confused on how that roster was best in the league since individually a lot of them were just overwhelmingly meh outside goats

[crisp condor]

Teamwork

[tropic herald]

goats was a very strong comp that you could one trick heroes

and they also synergized so well

they new exactly what the teammate would do

[tawdry hamlet]

Twilight and Rapel and Slime are arguably the only successes outside of Vancouver from that team which just feels so weird considering how good they were

And even then slime was benched for a year

[next mesa]

Haksal had great mechanics

[willow tartan]

and not much else

man ended up dead in a ditch on NYXL

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk if haksal was overrated or what happened but last year he was just like

There

And that was pretty much it

[willow tartan]

i think he was already boomed by the time he was on nyxl

just riding out the season

[next mesa]

But it's nyxl

Everyone gets boomed

[willow tartan]

why do you think they had to get a full team of rookies

[tawdry hamlet]

Jjonak and Carpe have the strongest mental I've ever seen

How do you exist in a slow decline of pain

Without breaking lmao

[willow tartan]

jjonak sucks the mental from their teammates

like a mind flayer

[tawdry hamlet]

Jjonak mental is built different

Dude went from mvp on second best team in the league to only good for mechanics on a squad of rookies after an intense season of underperforming with shit coaching

[willow tartan]

hes got the bag dude

prolly earns as much as half of the players on his team

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah that's the main reason I'd assume him and carpe making hella bank for being with the same team for 4 seasons

[north relic]

how many players from s1 are still in the league

[tawdry hamlet]

It seems like there's not a lot but then when you actually look at it there's tons of them

[tropic herald]

theres a lot of those

just not a lot that stayed on one team

[north relic]

kalios, kellex, logix, jake, linkzr, birdring, closer, fury, gesture, profit, rascal, fate, kariv, space, jjonak, mano, pine, sbb, carpe, eqo, hotba, poko, sado, danteh, super, fleta, tobi

[willow tartan]

super was in s1?

[north relic]

yea, he was just underage i think

[willow tartan]

imagine getting signed to a team and then not playing for a whole season

... and probably getting paid to do it too

[north relic]

sbb pine and poko seems to have that situation

[willow tartan]

sbb has played a map

[north relic]

he did?

[willow tartan]

yea

do we know the hero bans yet?

i want to start meta theorising

[north relic]

coming out tomorrow iirc

[worn falcon]

5 years contract

i think Carpe have still the next season iirc

[willow tartan]

??

5 year contract

[worn falcon]

yep, Carpe signed a long ass contract with Fusion

https://twitter.com/JacobWolf/status/1187049662483763201

Jacob Wolf (@JacobWolf)

.@carpe_ow has signed a three-year contract extension with @Fusion, remaining with the team through at least the 2022 season, team officials told @ESPN on Wednesday.

https://t.co/arp52Ypgfu

Retweets

119

Likes

790

Twitter · Oct 23, 2019, 4:54 PM

[willow tartan]

bro

how much he got paid tho

7 figure contract fsh

at least we know carpe wont be retiring until at least 2022

[worn falcon]

he is really built different

[plush grail]

MALDING

bruh

is he ok

[devout path]

Carpe never leaving philly

[tawdry hamlet]

Ayy he still got time to add a few more second place finishes with that contract

[worn falcon]

at least he is consistent on that

[willow tartan]

philly without carpe would be weird

[north relic]

carpe without philly would be weirder

[willow tartan]

i mean

[north relic]

last year they benched him a bit

[willow tartan]

maybe he could actually win

[plush grail]

leave the server

[devout path]

Carpe never leaving philly like I’m never leaving you

[plush grail]

bruh cringe

[devout path]

Like you

[vagrant oasis]

is the contenders site still fucked when trying to watch and get the skins?

if yes is it only on chromium based servers?

[willow tartan]

platchat is gonna be doing hero bans? we're absolutely screwed

[balmy wolf]

l0l

[willow tartan]

marbles on stream to decide hero pools

literally fucked

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1417530240121905154

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Mark your calendars, we're doing it LIVE 🙌

#OWL2021 playoffs head to Arlington 9/16-9/19 and finish in LA for Grand Finals on 9/25!

Stay updated here ➡ https://t.co/GGPZS1emip

Twitter · Jul 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

[balmy wolf]

not as as gold chat

[earnest leaf]

Grand finals will be in LA

[willow tartan]

fuck it I'm booking a ticket to America

I'm vaccinated

[hybrid void]

nerds

[tacit skiff]

You're not getting in anyway

This is America

[willow tartan]

is it hard to enter america?

[tacit skiff]

you've clearly never heard of America

[earnest leaf]

Don't think it's too hard to fly into here atm

[tacit skiff]

you need a visa

good luck on that

[willow tartan]

fly to Mexico, cross the border

profit

[tacit skiff]

get kicked out
sent back to Mexico
live in Mexico forever

[earnest leaf]

Getting into LA specifically might be a bit of a pain depending on how covid goes

[tacit skiff]

things are getting worse covid wise in the states

so

don't count on it

[willow tartan]

it will be near my birthday :)

[tacit skiff]

maybe Joe Biden will give you a birthday visa

personally

[willow tartan]

I will write a letter to the president's office asking for a visa

[tacit skiff]

you're gonna hafta wait for the millions of other letters to be read

[earnest leaf]

Also the visa required iirc should be a lot easier to get

since it would just be a visitor visa

[willow tartan]

it'd be like

[earnest leaf]

The ones player's have to get are a pain since it's for working in the country

[willow tartan]

yes

[tacit skiff]

imagine wanting to become a citizen
and then being told "wait 27 years and maybe then you can be a citizen, no guarantees tho"

i don't understand why anyone would want to be in America willingly

[earnest leaf]

???

[willow tartan]

who cares about being a citizen

I just wanna visit for two weeks for playoffs

[tacit skiff]

I live two hours from la and like three hours from Arlington
but fuck that shit

if it means going to Texas, it ain't worth it

I'm not trying to get shot

[balmy wolf]

you would be shot in the airport

[willow tartan]

dude

[tacit skiff]

you right

[willow tartan]

can't you like drive tanks in texas

[tacit skiff]

America the land of the free and stupid

[earnest leaf]

can drive tanks in a few states

Expensive as hell but you can do it

[willow tartan]

street legal tanks, fuck yeah america

[tacit skiff]

I can legally own a flamethrower if I wanted to

[willow tartan]

flamethrowers are banned by the Geneva convention sir

[tacit skiff]

you've never been to America then

[willow tartan]

literally war criminal

[tawdry hamlet]

Boutta take that 10 hour drive to LA fr

[willow tartan]

yea

[tacit skiff]

America doesn't follow any Europoor agreements

[willow tartan]

I wanted to go last year but covid

[balmy wolf]

bout to take 10 hour drive in a tank

[earnest leaf]

There is a difference between a flamethrower and a little flame gun elon musk made

[tawdry hamlet]

He would know, he is a flame knight after all

[willow tartan]

a flamethrower spews fucking napalm 40 meters away

[tawdry hamlet]

[tacit skiff]

sounds like america

[mortal abyss]

live playoffs

yoo

sick

[willow tartan]

time to pack my bags, move to America and then get shot after playoffs

watch grand finals and die? what a steal

[tacit skiff]

getting shot tryna watch overwatch league playoffs
based

[willow tartan]

so anyway eSports discussion

[tacit skiff]

I mean if you watch the grand finals
you have to go to LA
and honestly
that city sucks so bad

[tawdry hamlet]

eSports

Hmm

[willow tartan]

what do you think of the countdown cup hero pool being decided by marbles on stream on platchat?

because that's what's happening

[tawdry hamlet]

Is that real?

[mortal abyss]

fr?

[tacit skiff]

is it random heroes or nah, that's all I care about

[willow tartan]

platchat is live rn and that's what they said

they're gonna announce hero pools live

[mortal abyss]

weighted depended on hero pickrate

[tacit skiff]

byebye dva

[mortal abyss]

platchat releases are pre recorded premieres no?

[earnest leaf]

I mean we let a cat pick bans last year

[tacit skiff]

watch Orisa get banned kek

[willow tartan]

live as in

[earnest leaf]

yea they are pre-recorded the night before

[willow tartan]

Live for everyone to see

for the first time

[earnest leaf]

Though I assume tomorrow it will be fully live

[willow tartan]

yea

[tawdry hamlet]

Currently talking about spark changing coaches the third time this year let's fucking gooo

[willow tartan]

One for each stage

[tacit skiff]

Spark's gonna take it home dw

[tawdry hamlet]

Also is lige really pronounced lee ger did I never know this

[willow tartan]

what did you thought it was called

[tacit skiff]

leige

[willow tartan]

leige like beige?

[tacit skiff]

my leige

bows

[willow tartan]

liege dipshit

[tacit skiff]

I'm not English smart

[tawdry hamlet]

[willow tartan]

you said you live in America...

[tacit skiff]

and?

you think Americans are smart?

[willow tartan]

you speak Spanish?

[tawdry hamlet]

Hz spark and changing coaching are a classic duo

[mortal abyss]

apparently finals held at galen center

whats the capacity there?

[tacit skiff]

"I wanna go play football and get a cuncussion so I don't have to go into debt to go to college"

-Americans in high school

[willow tartan]

I thought they were supposed to be held at the blizzard arena

[mortal abyss]

"The seating capacity is 10,258"

idk

[tacit skiff]

that's a lot of possible covid positive people

[tawdry hamlet]

The usc arena

[willow tartan]

only 10k?

fuck it I'll get covid for grand finals who cares

[mortal abyss]

tbh with covid thered be a small crowd anyway

[tawdry hamlet]

It's California, restrictions are heavy

And it's a college campus arena

[tacit skiff]

and when you watch the grand finals it'll be the NYXL and Paris

mark my words

[tawdry hamlet]

Na copium or valid criticism let's goo segment time

This segment I've been waiting for

[willow tartan]

why don't they host it at Hawaii so the flight is closer to asia

[earnest leaf]

It's valid criticism

[tacit skiff]

bcuz na based

[earnest leaf]

It's not going to purely make a team lose

but it doesn't help them

[mortal abyss]

cuz no stadium available

[willow tartan]

Dallas and Atlanta were gonna lose either way

[willow tartan]

what about host it in China then?

[tawdry hamlet]

Because them they would have barely any live audience because who in Hawaii wants to watch a video game

[tacit skiff]

blizzard already bends over backwards for china
na company giving na fans attention at last

[tawdry hamlet]

There is stadiums in Hawaii

[earnest leaf]

hawaii is probably 10x more expensive than hosting it in LA

[mortal abyss]

harder for na teams to get to china ig?

[willow tartan]

I'm sure there would be a lot of Chinese and east Asian fans that would watch gf if they were hosted in

I guess

[mortal abyss]

yeah thats true for sure

[willow tartan]

NA might be looser on restrictions for people entering

[tacit skiff]

just fly to America
"it's not that hard"

[tawdry hamlet]

The pro bowl literally happens in Hawaii so stadiums exist just way less money for audience and more expensive

[tacit skiff]

although, if I were Blizzard, LA would've been my last choice

[earnest leaf]

ok the nfl has fuck you money

blizzard has a lot but not that much

[tawdry hamlet]

Even then they'll sell way more tickets off of la than they ever could in Hawaii population and fan distribution wise