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willow tartan
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atlanta can always qualify in through the play ins either way

balmy wolf
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sure

sullen berry
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Achilios just made a quick reference to him saying someone from SF Shock has a similar massive crosshair to F4Q Zunba

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That's Valorant KR for you

balmy wolf
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but why are Hawaii wins useless

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if they dont make up for regular season games

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its makes no sense

willow tartan
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bro i dont know all i know is shanghai has twice the amount of points of anyone else in the league

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i assumed that the points were for tiebreakers and shit

cursive plover
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Shanghai just needs to get their win and let others have fun too

willow tartan
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like even if youve lost more regular season matches

cursive plover
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APAC is so sad looking when shd dominates

willow tartan
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you could still be placed higher if u have more points

balmy wolf
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sure but they should count map diff after points

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and not wins after points

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a point in Hawaii should be equal with a regular win

forest raven
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Atlanta didn't win a game in Hawaii lol

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Series win = 1 league point

willow tartan
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nah hes talking about june joust

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3rd place so they got 1 point

forest raven
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Yeah Atlanta won 1 game

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So they got 1 point

willow tartan
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tournanment games are counted in the regular season standings?

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because the map standings dont reflect that

forest raven
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Tournament playoffs give you extra league points if you win, but only league points

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Regular season series wins and map diff is not changed by tournament results

willow tartan
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mm ok

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yeah so if atlanta and wj both had the same map wins

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atlanta would be placed before them if they had a league point from tournament

forest raven
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Yeah

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Atlanta and Washington have the same amount of points because Atlanta won against NYXL but have one less dub in the regular season

balmy wolf
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not map wins

forest raven
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Yeah not map wins, series wins

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It goes league points > series wins > map diff > head to head

balmy wolf
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regular wins count more

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and I don't understand why

forest raven
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Wdym regular wins count more

balmy wolf
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cause wins and points are basically the same

willow tartan
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cause regular wins give you points + map diff

balmy wolf
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more than map diff

forest raven
balmy wolf
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why count wins if we have points for that

willow tartan
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cuz getting league points is not winning

balmy wolf
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it is?

forest raven
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If Chengdu won the summer showdown they'd be above Seoul even with two more losses in the regular season

balmy wolf
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u have to win 2 or 3 games to get 1 point lmao

forest raven
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?

willow tartan
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atlanta has less match wins so thats why theyre below washington

forest raven
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You're talking about knockouts?

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Atlanta's below Washington because they have less series wins

willow tartan
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yes

balmy wolf
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yeah

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and that's dumb

forest raven
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How

willow tartan
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if they had beat dallas they would be above washington and glads

cursive plover
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What makes it dumb? It's logical.

balmy wolf
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it's not

forest raven
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Maybe Atlanta shouldn't have lost to Toronto in the May Melee

willow tartan
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hes saying that match wins in tournament should be worth more than regular season match wins

balmy wolf
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Hawaii games shouldn't be worth less

forest raven
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???

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They're not

balmy wolf
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same worth

cursive plover
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Atlanta didn't simply win

forest raven
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Because they're bonus wins

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If you lose in Hawaii it doesn't negatively affect your season standings at all

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It's either neutral if you lose twice or positive

willow tartan
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trueing

balmy wolf
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but that's what u qualify for

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I just want points to matter

forest raven
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You qualify for the chance to get bonus wins

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And they do

willow tartan
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they matter for the end of season playoffs

balmy wolf
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where does the bonus win help u

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if it below the other teams anywazs

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ur*

willow tartan
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since fuel has extra league points, shock could go 4-0 and win the countdown cup and fuel would still be in the playoffs

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without those points they would've had to play in the play ins

balmy wolf
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but if Dallas and shock had the same amount of points

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shock would be in front

willow tartan
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and the reason that's not the case is because of the

balmy wolf
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even if they had a worse map diff

willow tartan
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bonus league points

forest raven
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If Shock had the same amount of points it would have been because they won one of the tournaments lol

balmy wolf
willow tartan
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i have no idea what youre trying to say

balmy wolf
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draw bro

forest raven
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This is going around in circles

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I'm out

balmy wolf
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I'm speaking theoretically

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can u read

cursive plover
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I'm guessing what you're trying to say is that you want tournaments to add to map diff so tiebreakers can be solved with them?

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But I'm not sure so uh

balmy wolf
willow tartan
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because they have more wins

balmy wolf
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yeah

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and that's bs

willow tartan
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you want the extra league point to count as a win

balmy wolf
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basically

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just count points > map diff

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instead of points > wins > map diff

willow tartan
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well either way theyd still be in front no?

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cause you dont get map diff in tournament matches

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so with one more regular season win that's at least +1 map differential

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right?

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unless the team went like

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3-2 4 times vs going 9-3

balmy wolf
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here

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Atlanta and Washington

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have the same points

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and Atlanta has a better map diff

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but they are below washinghton

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and it's not a bug

plush grail
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Atlanta just sucks

forest raven
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TRUE

balmy wolf
tawdry hamlet
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Draw you're not allowed to say a team sucks when both your teams are top teams lmaoo aren't you a shock Shanghai fan

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Of course every other team sucks it's Shanghai sadgeCry

forest raven
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I'm not a Shanghai fan

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I was cheering for Chengdu in the tournament

tawdry hamlet
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😭

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Now if only hz could beat new York with the clear roster advantage they possess

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They literally have so much wasted talent rn

forest raven
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Spark OMEGALUL

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Trash

tawdry hamlet
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The org is having a hard time comitting lmao

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Buys multi million dollar house and 12 man roster

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Doesn't buy coaches

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Ok

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Nohill is right there and undine was available earlier on

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Tbh they could do so much with their money and roster I just want them to do it 😭

forest raven
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Have no faith in Spark

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They don't deserve it

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Architect NOOO

cursive plover
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Spark has the best skins yet they suck WidowLUL

forest raven
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Why did they have to get the pink

cursive plover
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They should have the horrifying green and blue of Vancouver

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and no

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I wouldn't give pink to the titans either

feral zodiac
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Shock have only lost 3 times?

forest raven
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In the regular season

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Got 3-0'd twice in knockouts lole

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And the three losses in the regular season were to Houston twice and Glads

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Losing to Glads OMEGALUL

willow tartan
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I count their match against London as a loss

forest raven
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Fair

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I'm still malding they beat Dallas 3-1 in the qualifiers and then got 3-0'd by Atlanta in the knockouts

willow tartan
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shock vs shanghai rematch when zzz

forest raven
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Implying Shock will make it to Hawaii or the playoffs

willow tartan
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I mean they have to at least make one right?

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no way they don't make it 4 stages in a row

forest raven
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Watch it happen

feral zodiac
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Shock have become the ultimate bed shitters

forest raven
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True

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In my very correct plat opinion they should run Ans/Glister/super/Choi/FD/Twilight

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And commit to it

feral zodiac
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Not bad but what happens if hitscan is bad

forest raven
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Glister's a hyperflex

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Man can play hard hitscan, tracer, proj, doom etc.

willow tartan
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then they can still run glister nero

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if double flex

forest raven
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I feel like ans would have the better sombra though

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Because Glister will have tracer duty

noble nexus
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I think ans glister or glister nero should be their only dps lineups

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unless ans gets back into his 2020 form

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ngl I reckon the shock could pull off an alright sombra tracer ball comp

forest raven
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Both Smurf and super have good balls that could become great if they grinded

noble nexus
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ans sombra glister or nero tracer

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nero also has a decent pharah and they have should probably run twilight for the ana zen

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they could probably run that well if they decide to practice it

forest raven
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Stop playing viol2t as the main support

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It's all I ask

noble nexus
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yeah they need fd on MS but they can't play viol2t and FD at the same time

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so they just play FD and twilight

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it should be easy

willow tartan
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at least give fd twilight a shot

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ya know?

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Try it

noble nexus
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Yeah they really should try it in a match

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They should know they can’t get away with two hyper aggro supports

willow tartan
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like cmon

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they try viol2t lucio before twilight fdgod?

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pls bro

noble nexus
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It’s fucking absurd

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I don’t know why they aren’t trying to get more assistant coaches at the least

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They clearly can’t function with just crusty and casores

mortal abyss
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they played twilight fdgod against paris for uh

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1 map

barren quest
willow tartan
plush grail
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paris in the top 10

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shock bottom 10

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pog

forest raven
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Yeah

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Chengdu in their rightful place though

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Shock should be above Boston though

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Cmon Avast

plush grail
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chengdu is weird

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i don't really watch apac

forest raven
plush grail
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but like the first few games they were top tier

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then meh

north relic
plush grail
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and now top tier again

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also

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get fucked

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forest raven
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?

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They beat Paris 3-1 last time they played so

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L

plush grail
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uhm no

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be honest

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daan is on the same level

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and his ball is legit top 3

north relic
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I don’t remember but how good is Daan monkey

forest raven
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There's only like four real ball players in the league

north relic
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Mag

forest raven
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Three of them are in APAC

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And two of them are on Chengdu

plush grail
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ameng is a meme player

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don't include him

north relic
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Ameng played last map in gf

noble nexus
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ameng is not a meme player

forest raven
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Motherfucker if you're including Daan I'm including Ameng

noble nexus
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how fucking dare you

north relic
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If he is a meme player why was he in gf

plush grail
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because he's permabenched

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he's like taiyo

north relic
forest raven
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Smurf is a better ball than Daan no doubt

plush grail
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taiyo is a season 3 champion but never played

north relic
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He played against Seoul as well

plush grail
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no

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fuck ameng

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meme ball player

forest raven
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Ameng played against both Philly and Seoul

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And they won both series

plush grail
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wow he got 2 whole maps in 2 games???

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big!!!!

north relic
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He played more than 2 maps though

plush grail
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3 maps*

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sorry

forest raven
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No one on your team has won anything + your team is made up of EU players + L + ratio

plush grail
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haven't won anything

forest raven
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EU Contenders OMEGALUL HYPERClap

plush grail
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still beating teams with multiple champions like the glads

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what does that say about na and kr

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random eu contendies rookies

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can beat your super team

forest raven
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Bro

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Glads is shit

noble nexus
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the glads have fucking dpei

north relic
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All paris have done is beat glads

noble nexus
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this is fucked up

plush grail
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also 3-0'd justice

forest raven
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Didn't beat them when it counted OMEGALUL

north relic
plush grail
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3-2

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they took them top map 5

forest raven
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"Took them to map 5"

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That's what losers say

noble nexus
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lmfao

forest raven
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YOU'RE A LOSER

plush grail
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draw aren't you a glads fan

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man stfu

forest raven
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No?

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What?

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Not only are you dumb you're illiterate too pepeLaugh

plush grail
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idk i know there's a glads fan that posts here

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it's fun

noble nexus
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yeah that'd be me

plush grail
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HAHAHAHAHAHA

forest raven
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Yo Jack

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Our teams suck

noble nexus
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I'm more of a dpei hater than a glads fan now

plush grail
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yeah i forgot about the note

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forest raven
noble nexus
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yeah so stop talking to me

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weirdo

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hush hush small fry

plush grail
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hey jack

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next time

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try making the knockouts

forest raven
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They did make knockouts

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Can't even insult correctly

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L

noble nexus
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next time try to beat the team you've already 3-0'd

forest raven
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Paris fans ig

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Losing to Atlanta Reign in a map 5 though

plush grail
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glads was so good back then

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AND THEN SHIT THE BED

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noble nexus
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dude that map 5 against atlanta gives me nightmares

forest raven
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Edison simply said no

noble nexus
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dpei started trying to coach in the map 5

forest raven
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And locked the doom

noble nexus
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so they kept trying to pharah n shit

forest raven
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tbf they figured out the ball comp was the best comp

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They were just really bad at it

plush grail
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and ur shit team

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got fucked

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by a pharmercy

noble nexus
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nope

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:-)

plush grail
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nice top tier hitscan in birdring

noble nexus
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your mom

forest raven
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Whoa whoa

noble nexus
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lole

forest raven
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Disrespect Glads all day

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Don't disrespect the big bird man

plush grail
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onigod > birdring

noble nexus
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yeah don't disrespect my favourite seagull fan

plush grail
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imagine getting rolled by pharmercy in OWL

forest raven
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Dallas Fuel got rolled by Pharmercy

plush grail
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dallas has no hitscan

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glads has a top tier hitscan

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they just suck

forest raven
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Atlanta does and they got even more fucked by Pharmercy

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Shanghai is simply built

plush grail
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kai is overrated anyways

noble nexus
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onigod is the ceo of being overrated

north relic
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Kai or birdring better ?

plush grail
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ACTUAL SHIT TAKE JACK

forest raven
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idk

noble nexus
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kai probably ngl

plush grail
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onigod is the most underrated player

noble nexus
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yo Luigi

forest raven
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Onigod does like one good thing a map

noble nexus
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stop talking to me

plush grail
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he's a top tier hitscan

forest raven
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And then disappears for the rest of it

plush grail
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guys u gotta admit

noble nexus
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I don't want to stoop to your level

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you're dumb as fuck

plush grail
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onigod naga is a pretty cracked dps duo

forest raven
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Naga is good

plush grail
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onigod too

forest raven
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Nah

plush grail
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who even is kevster

raw ermine
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naga>sparkle

forest raven
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Alright calm down

plush grail
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remember when people said kevster would be top tier on low ping

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and got fucked by naga

forest raven
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EU simps WeirdChamp

noble nexus
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I didn't think I could see an even shitter take today

tropic herald
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You remember when people said Shanghai weren’t gonna win SS

plush grail
forest raven
tropic herald
plush grail
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lmao youtube chat was so weird

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people kept thinking pine was gonna sub in any moment

willow tartan
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You remember when people said Shanghai weren't gonna win JJ

tropic herald
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I doubt Dallas even scrim Pine that much tbh

plush grail
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at this point im doubting is pine is gonna play this year

willow tartan
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I doubt Pine even scrims at all.

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How do you scrim at 300 ping?

forest raven
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Normans have a weird obsession with pine

raw ermine
plush grail
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i dont think u want your hitscan to scrim on 300 ping

tropic herald
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Hitscan is the least impacted role by ping

plush grail
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and get used to hitscan on ping

tropic herald
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Plus it’s closer to 200

willow tartan
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oh fuck off

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the least impacted role by ping is tank obviously

plush grail
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least impacted is ms

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but heroes like rein, brig and hitscan are hell

plush grail
willow tartan
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dude

tropic herald
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Guys I literally play East coast to Australia and Hitscan is probably the easiest to play

willow tartan
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hitscan on ping

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id rather shoot myself

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it feels like donkey ass

plush grail
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bruh what

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hitscan on ping is hell

tropic herald
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Hitscan doesn’t change!! Bc ow favors the shooter

forest raven
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Every tank besides zarya is trash on ping

willow tartan
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mercy on ping ezer

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5head

plush grail
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lucio

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just healbot

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like moth

tropic herald
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Anyways Izayaki > Fielder

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Mald

willow tartan
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true

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just true

plush grail
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ye thats a fact

forest raven
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Izayaki is an actual freak

willow tartan
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the only hero fielder is better at than izayaki is moira

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who the fuck plays moira tho

plush grail
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fucking nerds

forest raven
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When Izayaki frontlined as zen against Edison's Cree with flash up and didn't die I knew

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That man had a fat fucking cock

willow tartan
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shanghai is just dallas but better bro

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jaegon > jecse

trail perch
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If I remember the script correctly Dallas should go 2-2 this stage and Shanghai should go 4-2

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4-0*

plush grail
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dallas plays paris

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finally

trail perch
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But then they both make the end of season playoff finals

tropic herald
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Jecse Lucio otp

forest raven
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The only game I'm waiting for is Vancouver-London

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THE TOILET BOWL RETURNS

willow tartan
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fleta > sp9rkle

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LIP >>

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void > hanbin

plush grail
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naga > all shitty fdps in owl stfu

willow tartan
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fate > fearless

tropic herald
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Shanghai has the advantage of having a top3 player in every role

forest raven
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And a coach with a brain the size of Ganymede

plush grail
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isnt ganymede

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the small bird??

willow tartan
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no

forest raven
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It's a moon dude

willow tartan
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not the bird

tropic herald
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It’s also a planet

forest raven
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Paris fans

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Holy

plush grail
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the fuckin

willow tartan
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the thing the bird was named after

plush grail
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bastion bird

willow tartan
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you idiot

forest raven
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Largest moon of Jupiter

plush grail
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thats the moon

tropic herald
forest raven
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Get it

willow tartan
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bro next youre gonna tell me that Overwatch invented crusaders

forest raven
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Because his name

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Is Moon

plush grail
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haha funny shut up

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glads fan

forest raven
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Paris fans I s2g

tropic herald
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Paris fan moment

willow tartan
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i think

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shanghai not needing to swap is really good

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their players are just flexible enough to do it

forest raven
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Specialists and subbing seems to be becoming more and more a thing of the past

willow tartan
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its like playing pokemon bro

forest raven
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You need players that can cover everything

willow tartan
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you have your main 6 roster

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and level them up

forest raven
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Atlanta has seemingly stopped subbing Kai in and keeping Edison

tropic herald
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Fleta is bidoof

plush grail
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sorry for not being a fucking

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planet knowledgable person

willow tartan
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moons arent planets dipshit

forest raven
north relic
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I mean who references Jupiter’s moon when talking about brain size

willow tartan
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in reference to

forest raven
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I do

willow tartan
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coach (moon)

plush grail
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this is just bullying now

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Actually 1v1 me irl

forest raven
willow tartan
north relic
forest raven
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Yes

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Obviously

north relic
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He is one

tropic herald
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Mfw esports

gusty rampart
north relic
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Glads fan?

forest raven
plush grail
willow tartan
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what do you guys think is the current best possible chinese player lineup?

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and where would you rate them against other overwatch league teams (assuming that the players are duplicated)

plush grail
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guxue for sure as mt

north relic
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How good is lige I don’t know much about him

tropic herald
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Gaga Lateyoung Leave Shy Mmonk Nisha PogT

plush grail
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ljg is korean right

north relic
plush grail
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guxue for rein winston

willow tartan
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you dont like lige?

plush grail
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gaga for anything ball related

north relic
tropic herald
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Haven’t seen lige in forever

willow tartan
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hangzhou havent played in the tourneymneyt

forest raven
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Gaga/Elsa/Leave/Shy/Mmonk/Yveltal

plush grail
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didn't lige have mental problems

tropic herald
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Yea

noble nexus
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yeah

north relic
willow tartan
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anyway...

tropic herald
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As long as the team has Leave Shy

willow tartan
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cough

forest raven
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If Elsa isn't allowed then Lateyoung

willow tartan
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molly

tropic herald
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The team fucks

willow tartan
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cough

north relic
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Also is yveltal better than nisha?

plush grail
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molly is just gone

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did he ever return to ow

willow tartan
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molly is good

forest raven
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I am a Yveltal simp

willow tartan
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wym

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bro

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hes on the dragons roster

noble nexus
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lmfao

north relic
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Where was molly last year

plush grail
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wait fuck

forest raven
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Molly played like two weeks ago

noble nexus
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Luigi is a paris fan don't expect intelligence

plush grail
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im thinking off lluffy

willow tartan
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molly last year was on chengdu

plush grail
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luffy was pretty good right

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he just

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dipped

willow tartan
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ye

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wasnt gonna get playtime over izayaki

plush grail
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luffy would be a upgrade on most apac teams

willow tartan
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but anyways

north relic
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How good is mcd

willow tartan
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put molly on team china

forest raven
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Isn't MCD Korean

tropic herald
plush grail
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kariv OMEGALUL

forest raven
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Yeah MCD's Korean

willow tartan
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chinese superteam would be like top 3 in the league easily

forest raven
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Absolutely

plush grail
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im pretty sure the best EU team would be close to top 3

willow tartan
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what would the best EU team be

forest raven
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Best EU team would be 19th

north relic
plush grail
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EU has players like astro, poko, kevster

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offtank is lacking

north relic
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Poko is good

plush grail
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but u have vestola and poko

willow tartan
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why have astro when you have fdgod

plush grail
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shockwave, naga, fdgod, kaan

north relic
forest raven
#

Did you watch Astro's brig

#

Shit was tragic

plush grail
#

they both suck lmao

#

they were so good last year

#

but just

#

no

noble nexus
#

carried kek

plush grail
#

fusion is strange man

forest raven
#

FD's played well recently when he did get played

willow tartan
#

the best EU MT isnt even in OWL

plush grail
#

they mostly upgraded and sidegraded players

forest raven
#

Mans has just been benched Sadge

plush grail
#

and are shit now

noble nexus
#

it's depressing watching the shock and fusion play

forest raven
#

NO MORE VIOL2T MAIN SUPPORT

#

NO MORE

north relic
forest raven
plush grail
#

that was crazy

forest raven
#

He got 6 boops on well

tropic herald
#

Fleta and Leave considered worse tracers than Sparky on Watson btw

willow tartan
#

watson is a joke

#

powerrankings is meme

forest raven
#

Who is Sparky

#

Some fan or smth

willow tartan
#

sparkr i assume

tropic herald
#

Sparkle

forest raven
tropic herald
#

Sparky

willow tartan
#

sp9kle

forest raven
#

Who is that

tropic herald
#

Jimmy second best widow PogT

forest raven
#

A player on some shitter NA team or something

noble nexus
#

Sprinkle

plush grail
#

DALLAS AND SHANGHAI SIMPS MALDING

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forest raven
#

What hero is that

plush grail
#

Rein

north relic
#

Why is Elsa there

willow tartan
#

why is void there

tropic herald
noble nexus
#

why is michelle there

forest raven
noble nexus
#

it's probably hog

#

lol

north relic
#

ELSA BETTER REIN THAN FEARLESS

plush grail
#

it's rein

forest raven
#

Prove it

noble nexus
#

nah Luigi is dishonest

north relic
#

Why is silver3 above fearless

plush grail
#

i never lie

north relic
#

In rein

willow tartan
#

it is roadhog

north relic
#

Yea

willow tartan
#

just checked

noble nexus
#

lmfao

#

nah it's rein

#

daan dominates everyone on the rein

willow tartan
#

daan vs hadi

#

rein 1v1

forest raven
#

No one wins

north relic
#

Hadi breaks shields with shatter

noble nexus
#

yeah they both charge off the map on accident

willow tartan
#

checkmate wins against both

barren quest
#

Hanbin Rein

plush grail
#

someone needs to teach hadi that u cant shatter a shield

willow tartan
#

shatter does damage

#

so the shatter damage can break shield

#

if its below 50 hp

plush grail
forest raven
#

Big L's for Onigod

willow tartan
#

onigod is a trash bastion player bro

forest raven
#

?

#

These are tracer rankings

noble nexus
#

nah those are tracer rankings

plush grail
#

onigod is a flick god ofcourse he sucks at bastion

willow tartan
#

tracer are banned

#

what you mean?

plush grail
#

reported for spreading false information.

noble nexus
#

striker is lucky he never had to play tracer into molanran tbh

forest raven
#

True

plush grail
#

lol striker is gone

willow tartan
#

Why do you think he retired? omegalul

noble nexus
#

out of fear

#

don't blame him

forest raven
#

Striker

plush grail
#

who tf needs striker when u have hotba

north relic
#

Striker saw molanran and dipped

forest raven
#

How are the Dragons players not number 1 on their signature heroes besides Izayaki on zen

#

Holy shit Watson is fucking dumb

plush grail
#

shangahi just sucks

#

they're 0-40 bro

#

wake up

#

it's 2018

willow tartan
#

power rankings arent updated immediately

#

they are updated every week

forest raven
tropic herald
forest raven
#

ikr

plush grail
#

imo

#

shanghai is just a silly team

willow tartan
#

dallas plays more matches

plush grail
#

bunch of silly players

willow tartan
#

whoru develop dps lineup

noble nexus
#

pls

plush grail
#

lmao wait yeah

#

they have whoru

barren quest
#

What is Develop supposed to be in for

noble nexus
#

long range hitscan

#

I think

#

diem 2.0 basically

plush grail
#

yeah but diem had almost no playtime

#

are we gonna see develop

#

ever

noble nexus
#

neither will develop

#

lol

#

it's just incase another heavy hitscan meta comes around

#

which won't happen

north relic
noble nexus
#

yeah that's the exception

plush grail
#

@noble nexus opinions?

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north relic
#

Widow no longer needs to charge shots

noble nexus
#

proud of you

#

your medal is on its way

willow tartan
#

In case of double sniper meta.

plush grail
#

thank u

willow tartan
#

Develop plays the widow and LIP plays the hanzo

plush grail
#

i tried my hest

noble nexus
#

they'll give widow like 500 hp and genji's dash

feral zodiac
#

If only leave played like this in his first season

noble nexus
#

hest

willow tartan
#

whoru is in for genji meta and only genji meta

feral zodiac
#

Easy roty

north relic
#

Does fleta play hanzo

willow tartan
#

yea

#

but you want LIP on the hanzo

plush grail
#

fuck i wanted to say hard work and best at the same time

willow tartan
#

in a double sniper meta

forest raven
#

The answer to every question of if Fleta plays a hero is yes

north relic
noble nexus
#

nah fleta is a torb specialist

forest raven
noble nexus
#

like carpe

willow tartan
plush grail
#

yo where is florida mathem

#

they made it to hawaii right???

noble nexus
#

mathem

plush grail
#

where are they at?

forest raven
#

About to go 4-12

plush grail
#

florida was supposed to be top tier this year right?

#

what happen?

noble nexus
#

they suck

plush grail
#

OGE redemption arc?

forest raven
#

I don't think OGE is gonna get his 4th chance

plush grail
#

yeah OGE is gone next year

north relic
#

Paris and mayhem switched places

plush grail
#

no way he gets another chance

noble nexus
#

oge redemption was going great till he got benched by an already benched fdps

plush grail
willow tartan
#

OGE training arc in contenders

plush grail
#

florida mayhem did a top tier to shit tier speedrun any%

north relic
#

Mayhem didn’t do that bad on jj

#

They got map 5 on Dallas in dallas’ own meta

plush grail
#

''not that bad''

north relic
#

Houston Dallas justice?

plush grail
willow tartan
#

their loss on toronto was the worst one

plush grail
#

this was when justice was at the absolute bottom

#

justice was legit garbage at this point

north relic
#

Remember they bought shock to map 5

#

Justice rebounded after the first two games

plush grail
#

justice is dumb anyways

#

fuck decay

#

all my homies love onigod

willow tartan
#

put onigod on a good team 🙏

#

why is the EU region dead

#

lets get gooder

plush grail
#

shut up

willow tartan
#

i want more EU teams

#

give me a moscow team

north relic
willow tartan
#

what happened to russian players in overwatch?

#

bro i swear they all disappeared after season 1

forest raven
#

Remember when the team that completely dominated the EU region went to OWL and slapped the league around

#

Oh wait

willow tartan
#

eu as a whole need to get more people addicted to overwatch

#

its hurting their regional performance

forest raven
#

I mean tier 2 just doesn't exist at this point

north relic
forest raven
#

There is a French hero

north relic
#

Who

plush grail
#

widow

willow tartan
#

widowmaker....

plush grail
#

you fucking brianlet

#

holy shit

willow tartan
plush grail
#

shut

willow tartan
#

wh omegalul ????

forest raven
#

God

#

Shanghai dropped 4 maps the entire summer showdown

#

And half of them were in the one series

north relic
#

3 from Chengdu

willow tartan
#

all from chengdu

forest raven
#

Spark

willow tartan
#

oh

north relic
#

Didn’t they drop one to spark

willow tartan
#

yea

#

right

#

shy mcd and guxue fucked too hard

forest raven
#

Shy fucked on the worst map for ball

willow tartan
#

and they got a map because leejaegon forgot to press Q

#

he had rally up

#

shouldve rallied as soon as hz engaged and committed a rally of their own

next mesa
#

Sheeeesh

#

Wonder what would've happened if Dallas had cree

mortal cipher
#

How many loses has Shanghai taken this year

balmy wolf
#

5

#

3 against Dallas, 1 against Hunters and 1 against Spark

mortal cipher
#

Yeah ok

#

So that’s 5 losses and how many wins

#

???

balmy wolf
#

a lot

#

dont wanna count

forest raven
#

21 wins

#

Counting knockouts and tournaments

balmy wolf
#

ouch

forest raven
#

They're 10-2 in the regular season with EIGHTEEN points

balmy wolf
#

glads have the same amount of losses

#

glads = shanghai

#

same as shock

forest raven
#

Shock is 9-3

balmy wolf
#

5 losses

#

shock = glads = shanghai

forest raven
#

Holy

mortal cipher
#

Shanghai is also up 20 map diff

#

And they can lose 4 and still be at the number one spot

forest raven
#

Shanghai could lose all four games and get 3-0'd and they still wouldn't lose the number 1 spot in APAC even if Seoul or Chengdu went 4-0 and won the CC

abstract nova
#

damn

#

so they can just throw if they wsnt to

#

maybe they can play bastion

mortal cipher
#

Lol

#

Basically they’re already in the playoffs anyway

#

So they can not try the rest of the seas if they wanted to not that they will

#

They’re too far ahead of anyone

forest raven
#

They can experiment for post season p much

mortal cipher
#

Even Dallas Is 6 map diff behind them at 14 map diff

willow tartan
forest raven
#

Oh

willow tartan
#

yeah but its only seoul

#

so if its any time for seoul to pop off its the countdown cup

forest raven
#

No they wouldn't

#

They have 9 points

#

Shanghai has 18

plush grail
forest raven
#

The max points you can get in one tournament is 7

willow tartan
#

wait shit youre right

#

im toasted idk

#

o i was thinking of uhh

#

the other number 1 team

#

shock can theoretically get number 1 in NA during countdown cup

plush grail
tropic herald
#

my team is good PogT

plush grail
lunar ivy
#

people are saying in chat that you can get dva skin for watching 4 hours of OWL stream, is this true?

balmy wolf
#

look at ur pp

#

but there are no owl streams for as anymore

#

ss*

sullen berry
#

encore stream is going on right now homie

#

you can still watch the rest of today's match from now

#

and get the D.Va OWL skin if you're signed in from an eligible country

sullen berry
lunar ivy
sullen berry
#

ah so you're good

lunar ivy
#

so its this stream you get it?

sullen berry
#

choose a platform to watch from and stick with it

#

youtube will show if you are connected to your YT account

#

while the OWL page in the screenshot will have this pink dot to say you are earning watch time

balmy wolf
#

sry

sullen berry
#

retweet time

nocturne yacht
sullen berry
#

41 to go

balmy wolf
worn falcon
next mesa
worn falcon
#

https://twitter.com/Spex_J/status/1416826095576494081

Jon Spector (@Spex_J)

After that awesome Summer Showdown Finals, we’re now headed into the final Countdown (Cup) of #OWL2021.

Countdown Cup info is coming on the 21st - we wait a bit to tell teams the map pool / hero pool so they take a real break.

We’ll also share more Playoffs info this week!

Twitter ·
hot onyx
#

Hero pools are back

#

Fuck

sullen berry
#

hero pools

#

I complained about it during june joust

#

but that was pretty conservative

#

time for a little disruption

#

else we end up with virtually the exact same dps support bans

earnest leaf
#

please

#

just ban sym

sullen berry
#

tanks are the only variation

devout path
#

Dva banned = double shield :)

hot onyx
#

“Yeah guys we know multiple players and a majority of the fan base spoke negatively of hero pools for how it reduces scrimming partners and toys with the meta, but it’s not like there’s an incredibly simple way to cancel it or anything so we’re going along with it as planned”

earnest leaf
#

blizz trying to please the whiny ass community

#

community doesn't want stagnant metas

#

hero pools directly fights against that

sullen berry
#

ball banned - nerf chengdu

#

probably nerfs shanghai at this rate

devout path
#

Meta isn’t even stagnant

sullen berry
#

but hardly a difference

#

only the beasts of the east can show meta diversity, with or without her pools

hot onyx
#

And reduces scrim partners so that owl teams and contenders teams can’t scrim eachother for practise so while there isn’t a half decade long GOATS meta I don’t see the reasoning behind it

sullen berry
#

it was the NA orgs and the community fickle enough to complain what can fix it and leave for another game freely that were complaining

devout path
#

Bring back goats

earnest leaf
#

hero pools isn't going to be a flawless system

#

Sadly there will be downsides

sullen berry
#

shut down role lock

noble nexus
#

Bring back goats

hot onyx
#

Hero pools bring more harm than good unfortunately

earnest leaf
#

I disagree

#

It forces teams to actually change shit up instead of forcing the same 6 heroes all season long

hot onyx
#

Well actually

#

The patch notes kinda does that now

#

With the game getting patched more frequently than it used to

north relic
#

when was our last patch anyway

#

and what was it

hot onyx
#

Last patch was the hitscan nerf

barren quest
#

Last patch mainly addresses hitscans

hot onyx
#

Which was not the devs best decision

earnest leaf
#

But they still buffed widow

#

like the chimps they are

hot onyx
#

Also not a good decision

barren quest
#

Isn't Widow like not very good rn?

hot onyx
#

But neither was 5v5 but that’s a can of worms I’m not gonna open despite mentioning it Morcy

balmy wolf
#

guys anyone receiving tokens?

north relic
#

i am

balmy wolf
#

kk

proper aspen
#

PU_PepeWowInteresting you guys can tell if you recive tokens from watching over phone? im not sure if i got mine when i watched the games over phone from my bed last times

plush grail
#

!drops

forest raven
#

!drops

sullen berry
#

they didn't touch (encore)

#

!drops

plush grail
#

U don't get drops

#

Dirty GLADS fan

balmy wolf
#

If u don't receive any tokens just clear ur browser app data then u will start receiving tokens

next mesa
#

I receive tokens from phone

#

Even with YouTube Vanced not youtube

feral zodiac
#

Hero pools done as they are now are good

#

Hero pools as they were done before were very bad

willow tartan
#

hero pools now are cool

#

when will they release hero bans

wicked pendant
#

Speaking of hero pools, have they announced who's out for the countdown cup?

#

Last time, they announced it as soon as the previous tournament ended.

noble nexus
#

they're waiting a few days so the teams will actually take the time to rest instead of scrimming and worrying about it

willow tartan
#

???

#

how would overwatch releasing hero pool information make teams behaviors change

#

wait nevermind i just ran that thought experiment in my head

#

sorry my brain works slower than my mouth

earnest leaf
#

teams will probably figure out around thursday or so

#

they learn a day or two before us

willow tartan
#

i think the leading theory is that since teams that dont make the tournament are essentially already on break, releasing the information earlier would mean the top four teams would have effectively less scrim time with knowledge of the "ban pool"

hot onyx
#

Echo symm ban

#

Double hs

#

Cockwave

#

Lipvelop

willow tartan
#

dva mei sym ana ban

#

🙏

hot onyx
#

I like high tier mei

north relic
#

dva cree mei, bap and brig have the highest pick rates

willow tartan
#

ok but i hope they ban mei sym

hot onyx
#

I’m just getting tired of echo tbh

willow tartan
#

like mei sym rush just makes rush so much worse

earnest leaf
#

from this stage

hot onyx
#

If lucio gets banned after Astro made it to korea I will write an angry letter

willow tartan
#

ban brig and play bap zen double shield double sniper

#

pls buff hitscans bozzard

hot onyx
#

Double hitscan

#

Less damage falloff from 2 long range bullets instead of 1

#

🧠

#

Or y’know

#

Could always have genji again

#

That would be fun I think

#

Sp9rk1e EQO rematch

plush grail
#

stay malding

willow tartan
#

whoru playing this szn

next mesa
#

DVa ban

#

Yes Plz whoru play

mortal abyss
#

tfw whoru won a title before carpe

plush grail
#

'''whore''

mortal abyss
#

oops

plush grail
#

no

#

no editing

mortal abyss
#

_>

noble nexus
#

that's fucked up

#

can't be calling him a whore

mortal abyss
#

apologies

willow tartan
#

develop won a title before carpe Pepega

plush grail
#

dont slutshame owl players

tacit skiff
#

STAND1 WAS ON THE DRAGONS LAST SEASON???

plush grail
#

yes

tacit skiff
#

the hell happened for him to get demoted to Boston like that?

plush grail
#

not getting playtime

#

he's a main tank

#

they also had fearless

#

probably wanted play time

#

and boston needed a main tank

willow tartan
#

stand1 was there for the tanks fearless couldnt play

#

like i believe they ran stand1 orisa for a bit

#

but since fearless dipped and they got fate

#

fate by the way he can play like every main tank good

#

they dont need a stand1

tacit skiff
#

I was watching the 2020 grand finals
y'know
reminiscing about that time the Dragons lost for once
and I see Stand1 on ball on Busan
and I was like
PFFFFFT THE FUCK

#

it's crazy how he went from the runner-up team to literally 20/20

plush grail
#

stand 1 sucks

trail perch
willow tartan
#

thats not really all too weird

#

players get traded all the time

tacit skiff
#

but from the top to the bottom? eh

tacit skiff
#

they lost the gf to the shock

#

3-2

#

it was a close match tho

#

meka base could've got either way

willow tartan
#

you know that seoul was in the grand finals right...

#

and it was a first to 4 series

#

shanghai was knocked out in the loser's final by seoul

trail perch
#

Yeah Shanghai wasn’t there lol

willow tartan
#

i think he meant the winners final

#

since dragons lost on busan final map

earnest leaf
#

I'm re-watching shd vs shock in the winner finals from last season

#

I forgot how hard striker tracer diffed people

plush grail
#

wrong

next mesa
#

Damn remember when gesture demolished Shanghai on oasis

#

Tragic

tacit skiff
north relic
#

wtf is that link

raw ermine
#

lmfao

#

paris beats dallas?

plush grail
#

BASED

raw ermine
#

I guess my name IS naga>SP9RK1E...

plush grail
#

naga is a fdps

#

that can play hitscan

#

so naga > sparkle

mortal cipher
#

llol

next mesa
#

Sparkle busted out that soldier

upper niche
#

Do we know whether or not the SHD vs CDH match was played on the Hawaii servers or on local APAC servers with low-ping?

plush grail
#

why would they play on hawaii servers

#

ofc the normal apac server were used