esports-discussion

[willow drum]

poor Jinmu

[ivory stag]

the sombra diff is just sad

[tacit skiff]

Chengdu isn't doing anything

[willow tartan]

Of course jaegon gets an environmental on point a eichenwalde

[weary widget]

king of boops back at it again

[willow tartan]

did the beat catch on to fate and he just got melted?

I missed it

[willow drum]

THE REAPER GUY

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chengdu have so many ults

yeah no way that wasnt a wipe

[severe tusk]

lol leejaegon?

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VOID LOL

[willow tartan]

HOOOLD THE LINE

[dreamy cave]

COME ON HUNTERSS

FIGHT LIKE HELL

[ivory stag]

imagine not taking second checkpoint lol

this is ggs

[weary widget]

come on

[willow tartan]

lip environmental

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jinmu can touch ofc

NICE

[ivory stag]

hard threw second point

[weary widget]

2 MORE MAPS

[willow drum]

Chengdu made comp mistake

[willow tartan]

[wooden yarrow]

LESS GOOOOOOO

[weary widget]

shd did to chengdu on eichen what chengdu did to dallas on volskaya

[ivory stag]

can we just let dragons have this year so we can move on and have diff team be dominant next year

[willow drum]

yeah its like

please dragons

[ivory stag]

just get it over with

[willow drum]

get out you've been dominate for a good amount of time

[willow tartan]

okay so hunters will probs pick Gibraltar right?

[ivory stag]

like that awkward cringe teen phase

[willow drum]

will they

[worn hornet]

2022 year of

[willow tartan]

unless they want to pull out a wacky counter comp right now

their best bet is Gibraltar

[dreamy cave]

i think they want rout 66?

[willow drum]

^ seems like a decent option r 66

[willow tartan]

oo route is a decent map as well

[ivory stag]

dorado fuck it lol

[dreamy cave]

actually, gibralter might be better. they run the whinston.

[severe tusk]

dorado just watching lip v leave would be so good

[ivory stag]

pick worst map to throw them off

[dreamy cave]

dorado point b for hunters could hurt though.

[willow tartan]

kings row obv

[severe tusk]

hanamura

[worn hornet]

I'm starting to wonder how Custa will top this for the Countdown Cup breaks

[willow tartan]

it's payload

right?

[north relic]

No reinforce?

[weary widget]

yeah but kings row is hybrid

[willow drum]

Ahhhh what r hero bans

[worn hornet]

I flipped a coin

[weary widget]

no hero bans

[willow tartan]

o yeah

wait what map would be the "worst" for Chengdu

uhh

[severe tusk]

hanamura i'd say

ball comps don't work at all there

[willow tartan]

hanamura is not a payload map

[severe tusk]

ohh u mean for next map

[willow tartan]

yes escort

[weary widget]

hybrid

[balmy wolf]

hanamura suck

[willow tartan]

we just did hybrid

It's escort next

[weary widget]

oh wait yeah

sorry

was still thinking of kings row from earlier

[severe tusk]

i think escort maps are pretty evenly balanced

maybe junkertown because there's a lot more open space which makes ball less effective?

[north relic]

There is a map pool

[willow tartan]

Havana?

[upper niche]

I wonder if this is related to why I'm not getting OWL tokens:

[balmy wolf]

widow map

[willow tartan]

None of them are like overtly bad for ball

But I would say Havana out of all the escorts

[balmy wolf]

NO TOKENS

[severe tusk]

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/summer-showdown-details-trade-deadline-new-map-pool-and-more

[willow tartan]

dorado too I guess

[balmy wolf]

u wont receive any tokens

[upper niche]

lol, and the log-out link is broken too.

[severe tusk]

junkertown... is in the summer showdown map pool?

unless i'm misreading something

[tacit skiff]

are we still not getting tokens

[willow tartan]

no idea what the map pool is sorry

[balmy wolf]

nope

[north relic]

I heard people talking about dorado so I thought it was in

[upper niche]

I know, I haven't been receiving any since I got the Ana skin.

[balmy wolf]

sadly no tokens but worth watching still

[severe tusk]

nah, it's r66, gibraltar, junkertown

[tacit skiff]

the overwatch league fucking sucks

[balmy wolf]

what

[north relic]

I’ve gotten

[worn falcon]

ohshit, chengdu took one?

[willow tartan]

I've gotten tokens too

[tacit skiff]

I got tokens in the stream for yesterday
not any in today's streams tho

[balmy wolf]

only encore and current stream token got bugged

[worn falcon]

went to shopping

[severe tusk]

on ilios, first map, chengdu outclassed shanghai

[tacit skiff]

that reaper guy

[willow tartan]

yeah they lost the pharah mirror on illios

then monk dickbagged on ruins

[severe tusk]

fleta styled on jinmu at the start

[willow tartan]

dude that shot was so crazy

[severe tusk]

*both

[willow tartan]

made me sit up

[severe tusk]

and after that chengdu managed to focus pharah

and i don't think shanghai did the same for jinmu

[weary widget]

you should always sit up, back posture is important

:)

[tacit skiff]

reaper Sombra underrated

[willow tartan]

stand up*

[north relic]

Last year it was meta for playoffs until hog became op

[tacit skiff]

7 maps, no tokens

what a waste

[tawdry hamlet]

https://twitter.com/BadPachimari/status/1416581933031641094?s=20

Bad Pachimari (@BadPachimari)

how https://t.co/zft4umQeun

Twitter · Jul 18, 2021, 2:13 AM

gaga built different

[weary widget]

[severe tusk]

HAHAHAA

[worn hornet]

Did Reinforce forget the rule about calling out Custa's bold predictions as weak?

[north relic]

Almost as short as super

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wait what the fuck hahaha

[worn hornet]

Is Super a smol boi?

[dreamy cave]

hunters please. this is literally your metaaaa DX

[north relic]

Shortest in shock

[worn hornet]

that explains so much

[safe marsh]

i really dont like how owl chat is getting political in different languages

[willow tartan]

idk idc Shanghai is all I'm here for

fuck yt chat

[weary widget]

YT chat is a cesspool

[worn hornet]

WILSON!

[ivory stag]

i miss dannies break cams of him just vibin

[hollow bough]

yeah but danny ain't in hawaii rn

[tawdry hamlet]

castaway references

[weary widget]

its nice to have a change

[hollow bough]

Danny my favorite

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/612592248751783966/853151424865894430/makesweet-hlcn7f.gif

[weary widget]

the only problem is the cesspool of yt chat talking about soe...

[tawdry hamlet]

that is why you click, hide chat

[weary widget]

yep

any and all YT livestreams

[worn hornet]

I want these released with sound

[tawdry hamlet]

everyone knows men can't control themselves, no sense bringing more attention to it

[weary widget]

true

[ivory stag]

i mean i can those are boys not men

[weary widget]

yep, 66

[dreamy cave]

so i was right. it is 66

[willow tartan]

yeppers

66 we go

[weary widget]

who wins 66

[dreamy cave]

hunters

||i hope||

[willow tartan]

never doubt the dragons

o7

[weary widget]

never doubting

[worn hornet]

grand finals they should be playing every map IMO

[weary widget]

june joust finals were

[willow tartan]

bro that would be like a 20 map series

u sure you want?

[worn hornet]

do it over a few days

[raw ermine]

nisha zen
nisha zen

[weary widget]

thats way too much

people wouldnt watch all of it

[willow tartan]

teams would die

[severe tusk]

boys

we're entering the chengdu zone

[weary widget]

sure sure

🙃

[severe tusk]

(and girls)

[willow tartan]

Are we entering the Chengdu zone or is Chengdu entering the Chengdu zone?

[weary widget]

or is it the forbidden shanghai zone?

[worn hornet]

:regional_indicator_chengdu:

[ivory stag]

torbs bullets have same projectile speed as meis right click right?

[willow tartan]

Chengdu literally playing rush what alternate dimension is this

[dreamy cave]

even paris and lunar

[weary widget]

especially paris and lunar

/s

[dreamy cave]

also, GO HUNTERS, GOD SPEED

[weary widget]

chengdu rollin rn goddamn

[worn hornet]

good point save this for OWL2 when push replaces assault

[severe tusk]

chengdu just want to flex on NA and play their comp better than them

[willow tartan]

^^^

[severe tusk]

"it's not a meta diff", they say, "it's a team diff"

[willow tartan]

lmaoo

[dreamy cave]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

[willow tartan]

bro fleta mario jumped that shatter

[ivory stag]

torb skin when? lol

[severe tusk]

leejaegon zen..?

[raw ermine]

oh no

leejaezen

[willow tartan]

oo

[ivory stag]

wasted

[severe tusk]

LEAVE?

[worn hornet]

LEAVE NO

[severe tusk]

WHAT

[weary widget]

LOL

[severe tusk]

oh he switched

thats why lel

[weary widget]

still funny lmfao

[ivory stag]

if they made money and dvas fly from 4 seconds to 6 or 8 their pick rates would drop nicely lol

[willow tartan]

jaegon zen too good

[weary widget]

zenjaegon
zenjaegon

[dreamy cave]

i thin they should have gone rein zarya or rein sigma. though idk if they can run it

[ivory stag]

back to the classic hunter spawn camped lose

[willow tartan]

He wants to catch up to izayakis stats on the zen

[weary widget]

anubis 2: 66 boogaloo

[ivory stag]

leave hard throwing

[weary widget]

LEAVE LOL

switching again?

[willow tartan]

Wtf was that leave int

Walking in a straight line towards a blossom lol

[ivory stag]

ggs

[willow tartan]

Shanghai should run rush on their attack to assert dominance

[worn hornet]

did he just imply horny jail?

[weary widget]

this was a long ass round tho, just 66 things ig

[ivory stag]

they got to hold before second checkpoint or its gg

[willow tartan]

ye

[weary widget]

doom genji

love to see it

[willow tartan]

izayki afk?

Late response time

[weary widget]

small corridor+aoe damage=free point A

[willow tartan]

nano Winston= free fight win

[ivory stag]

i think hunters gonna not take anymore maps from here on just the one loil

[willow tartan]

Hanzo oo

[weary widget]

hanzo?

LOLL

dead to jinmu

[worn hornet]

you can use sonic to spot out Jinmu
> Immediately killed by Jinmu

[weary widget]

ah there we go

shooting logs

[willow tartan]

I mean he did find him

[weary widget]

lmao

[ivory stag]

get of creee

[weary widget]

the hanzo pickkkk

[sullen berry]

Ah yes, an essential component of the chengdu zone

[severe tusk]

why doesn't lip play cree

[sullen berry]

#HanzoGang #HanzoGang #HanzoGang

[willow tartan]

And that's all you need baby!

[weary widget]

point B?

YESSIR

[willow tartan]

Just a few more meters

[ivory stag]

its ggs unless they can win two team fights maybe 3

[weary widget]

LIP??

SHEESH

[willow tartan]

cracked and jacked

[weary widget]

thats it

gg

[willow tartan]

it's first to 4

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yeah ik

[ivory stag]

lol hunters love fighting away from point ive noticed 3 maps now

[weary widget]

good... map? gm??

idk

lol

[severe tusk]

chengdu had such a good start

[weary widget]

yeah dallas backcapped yesterday lol

[willow tartan]

dragons too good

[severe tusk]

but shanghai adapted well enough to their comp

[north relic]

I remember dallas in this situation and losing

[gusty rampart]

Shanghai gud

[willow tartan]

shd love to apply point pressure during fights

[north relic]

3-1

[ivory stag]

and it only took them how many seasons lol

[tawdry hamlet]

don

t take the bait

[weary widget]

make it 4-1~~

[tawdry hamlet]

from dragons fans lmao

[severe tusk]

yeah, i've noticed how last tourney it was using fate on ball to apply pressure away from the teamfight

[tawdry hamlet]

whenever a top team wins the fans are insufferable, just accept it lmao

[severe tusk]

now it seems like it's a team thing

[willow tartan]

even when they lost on illios dragons kept flipping the point

[severe tusk]

^^

[ivory stag]

cause hunter are and always will be a c tier team

[gusty rampart]

Less than Boston

[severe tusk]

and dragons' ability to what sideshow calls 'micro-disengage' is actually insane

[novel nebula]

Countdown Cup Hero Ban Predictions: Echo, Mccree, D.VA, & Brig

[severe tusk]

they lose one or two and then like 10 seconds later they're back in

[tawdry hamlet]

if it isn't mei or sym I will be very surprised

[willow tartan]

Im not representative of dragons fanbase, I'm normally insufferable.

[severe tusk]

i'd love to see a dva ban

[weary widget]

my favourite thing to watch

echo or dva ban please

[severe tusk]

mhm, the pace they play at

[severe tusk]

echo hasn't been played much this tourney tho

[ivory stag]

i can tell by your disc prof

[willow tartan]

yes

[ivory stag]

worse than minecraft stans

[weary widget]

rolled

[ivory stag]

cringe

[severe tusk]

she's become a niche pick and that's ok imo

[willow tartan]

overwatch league is the only reason I stay alive

[ivory stag]

ewww

touch grass

[weary widget]

a what now :)

[willow tartan]

only thing to look forward to

[severe tusk]

in this current meta

echo hasn't been as oppressive or crucial as journament meta

she's not a 'must-pick' anymore and teams are able to counter

[willow tartan]

sournament meta has been sym mei in NA

[severe tusk]

chengdu did well to counter the fleta echo on the shd anubis defence

[wicked pendant]

Shanghai just in a tier of their own at this point smh

[weary widget]

match point, here we go

[weary widget]

the S in S Tier stands for Shanghai

[willow tartan]

Shanghai > everyone else in the league

AMENG

the yottachad

[wicked pendant]

AMENG SIGHTING

[tawdry hamlet]

[ivory stag]

cap

[willow tartan]

if ameng started a reverse sweep on the dragons honestly I wouldn't mind

fkn take it

[weary widget]

same-ish, more maps are good for me

i wanna watch more OWL

(as long as SHD win in the end tho)

[raw ermine]

YOU HAVE ENTERED THE ZONE. YOU MAY NOT LEAVE

[tawdry hamlet]

🐼

[severe tusk]

alright guys it's over.

[raw ermine]

there is 1 imposter
AMENG US

[worn falcon]

reverse sweep when

[willow tartan]

amengs camera quality looking like pictures of bigfoot

[candid gyro]

Jinmu go cronch

[weary widget]

what do yall think next map is?
p sure if its oasis SHD win

[novel nebula]

ye she has like a 90% pickrate

[severe tusk]

yea

[wicked pendant]

I am questioning the sub tho

[severe tusk]

i've really enjoyed watching lateyoung zarya

[willow tartan]

Nepal we go

[weary widget]

nipple

[candid gyro]

At least the camera quality is the same

[willow tartan]

DVa mei sym ana

[candid gyro]

Trade gaga's 3fps for a blur

[willow tartan]

I predict those bans

[novel nebula]

maybe, maybe

[severe tusk]

mei sym have been all NA tho

[novel nebula]

i def see dva getting banned tho

[severe tusk]

almost no mei sym in APAC

[weary widget]

^

[novel nebula]

ya

[candid gyro]

Just get rid of dva pls

[severe tusk]

dva sombra mei ana would be my ideal bans

[willow tartan]

yeah but apac plays sombra tracer which are both been banned before

[severe tusk]

yes

[willow tartan]

So they wouldn't be banned again

[novel nebula]

ya

[severe tusk]

why not

[weary widget]

fuck it, only ban dva

[severe tusk]

can they not be banned again?

[tawdry hamlet]

nothing really matters since it will fall back to tracer sombra again anyway lmao

[willow tartan]

because that's the rules

[weary widget]

push ball meta

[severe tusk]

ohhhh

mei sym then yea

[severe tusk]

true

[candid gyro]

I like it when reaper's meta tbh

[severe tusk]

tbh i'd like to see a sombra ban

[weary widget]

sombra ban in june joust iirc

[severe tusk]

lip is the only sombra who's enjoyable to watch

[north relic]

Can’t

[severe tusk]

mainly because he styles on every other sombra

[severe tusk]

yeah i know

they said a little bit above

but like if it were possible

[willow tartan]

ameng difference

[novel nebula]

brig wil prob be banned too or maybe bap or ana for suport

[tawdry hamlet]

that will just repeat echo dominance though and I don't want that either

[weary widget]

theres the echo

[stuck radish]

ban dva so we can go back to orisa sigma

[severe tusk]

true, true

[north relic]

Pog

[severe tusk]

question: how do u feel about ball metas

[weary widget]

as a ball player, i like it

i get to see pros play him

[novel nebula]

ye ball is fun to watch

[weary widget]

high skill ceiling

[novel nebula]

mhm

[stuck radish]

i wouldnt mind ball metas if it didnt usually mean theres gonna be a sniper

[weary widget]

YO

FLETA

[tacit skiff]

ggs

[severe tusk]

wym

[ivory stag]

hunter lose cause they dont know how to play point lol

[weary widget]

what

[ivory stag]

the literal whole point of the game

[weary widget]

void?

dafuck?

[novel nebula]

i want to see more snipers in the meta tbh

[weary widget]

void wtf was that dva bomb

[severe tusk]

same

[weary widget]

couldaused that

[severe tusk]

watching lip play ashe is a joy

[hollow bough]

I want to see a roadhog meta

Pure chaos

[severe tusk]

or any other good ashe players idm

[weary widget]

hook accuracy diff meta

[tacit skiff]

FLETA

[severe tusk]

AMENG

[ivory stag]

lol

[tawdry hamlet]

lmaooo

[weary widget]

HAHAHA

[severe tusk]

YOU CHAD

[weary widget]

like someone said earlier, Yottachad Ameng

[severe tusk]

i want chengdu to win this map just because of ameng

lol

[tacit skiff]

gg

[novel nebula]

ameng is insane

[ivory stag]

imagine taking out main healer and not winning team fight

lol this is why hunters just lose

[weary widget]

holy shit this OT

[tacit skiff]

I had faith

[hollow bough]

UBERX CASTING

[weary widget]

this is why i love uber

[tacit skiff]

gg

[severe tusk]

booooooostio

[weary widget]

BOOSTIO AGAIN?

LOL

[tawdry hamlet]

once again a boostio losss lmaooo

[weary widget]

yeah LOL

[novel nebula]

lolll

[weary widget]

CHENGDU BOOSTIO

[severe tusk]

what a round holy

[willow tartan]

first Dallas now Chengdu

[severe tusk]

props to fleta for that last extended fight

[weary widget]

and who said this match was boring again?

goddamn

[novel nebula]

im legit watching two grand finals at once nba and owl at the same time

[wicked pendant]

BOOSTIO KARMA

These scriptwriters

[weary widget]

boostio=instathrow

[willow tartan]

NBA? pft what's that

[weary widget]

National (Wrecking) Ball Association

[novel nebula]

yes

[weary widget]

fleta?

[willow tartan]

ripp

[weary widget]

ripp

1 sec away from flight

[dreamy cave]

GO HUNTERS

[weary widget]

nepal deathmatch

[novel nebula]

shanghai in 6???

[dreamy cave]

[fallen turret]

[ivory stag]

jimnu leaning and looking down like he really in air lol

[weary widget]

wow

dragons waiting till 99

if they hold here its phat BM

[novel nebula]

ye

[weary widget]

ball chase hahaha

[novel nebula]

[fallen turret]

Is it over?

[severe tusk]

LEAVE

that was nasty

[dreamy cave]

leave said "back off"

[weary widget]

oh my god

this round

[ivory stag]

lol this is the classic hunters throw

[weary widget]

this game

[ivory stag]

kill one or two ppl then lose a 6v4

[weary widget]

hunters throw or dragons better?

[willow tartan]

🍞

[novel nebula]

if hunters throw this map-

[weary widget]

final fight

this is it

[north relic]

Gg

[raw ermine]

NPOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NAH

[supple prism]

nooo

[tawdry hamlet]

Dragons just better

[severe tusk]

noooooooooooooooooooooo

[weary widget]

C9?

[tawdry hamlet]

[true hound]

oh my god

[ivory stag]

loool

[worn hornet]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[weary widget]

LETS GO

[true hound]

nahhh

[north relic]

this is so sad

[true hound]

nahhhhh

[hollow bough]

gg

[raw ermine]

OUTTA HERE

[ivory stag]

they throw haerd

[weary widget]

GGSSSSSS

[willow tartan]

[ivory stag]

hunter = dog shit

[weary widget]

[novel nebula]

gg

[severe tusk]

what a way to go out

[hollow bough]

Chengdu needs to get on point more

[worthy void]

BRO c9

[humble yarrow]

Classic chengdu fashion

[willow tartan]

OF COURSE CHENGDU DOESN'T TOUCH POINT

[novel nebula]

[earnest leaf]

As expected

[weary widget]

chengdu love deathmatch

[ivory stag]

Cheng999999999999\

[willow tartan]

LET'S GOOOO!!

[hollow bough]

They keep taking the fight outside of the point lol

[worthy void]

???? WTF???

[weary widget]

TWICE IN A ROW BABY

[willow tartan]

WOOO

[worthy void]

LMFAO

[ornate rose]

[candid gyro]

That is such a Chengdu thing to do

[novel nebula]

sheesh

[worthy void]

LETS GOO SHD

[candid gyro]

Lmfao

[ivory stag]

time to do something else lol

[novel nebula]

chengdu fans r sad

[shut fossil]

C9

[ornate rose]

[novel nebula]

[weary widget]

almost a 4-0

[severe tusk]

its fine, ameng won in our hearts

[willow tartan]

5 stage titles, most in the league babbyyyyy

[wicked pendant]

NOT LIKE THIS

NOT LIKE THIS

[shut fossil]

[novel nebula]

cheng9 lol

[severe tusk]

nah ilios was dominant

[tawny sinew]

Chengdu played amazing this whole tournament
But what a Chengdu way for it to end

[ivory stag]

imagine losing 3 maps cause fighting off point then doing it in the one map that counts LOLOLOLOL

[earnest leaf]

Now just win a grand finals now

[weary widget]

Cheng9 hahhhhhhhaahahaa

[willow tartan]

They fell too deep in the Chengdu zone.

[queen hatch]

My disappointment is immeasurable.
And my day is ruined.

[kind ridge]

cheng9

[earnest leaf]

But atm shd are frontrunners for gf

[weary widget]

the reaper guy

funni

[sullen berry]

[earnest leaf]

But that's what was said last year so who knows

[willow tartan]

Chengdu confirmed to be a ranked stack, can't fight against a reaper and forgets to touch point

[barren quest]

Dammit

[tropic herald]

shanghai gameing

[willow tartan]

wooya

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/Avast_o/status/1416595460597354497

Avast (@Avast_o)

The point is your @ChuckECheese Chad of the Match

you need to touch it btw

Twitter · Jul 18, 2021, 3:07 AM

[novel nebula]

discord stickers are cursed

[willow tartan]

the reaper guy is my favourite character

[sullen berry]

name a more unfortunate combo than dps players and sombras not touching the point in time

[queen hatch]

Cheng9

[tacit skiff]

and then all the people on their vpns start cheering

no tokens either

what a waste

[hollow bough]

https://twitter.com/Avast_o/status/1416596024404103172

Avast (@Avast_o)

Exactly one year ago

time is a flat circle https://t.co/dkfkr7CQ4D

Twitter · Jul 18, 2021, 3:09 AM

[raw ermine]

Imagine being lateyoung. Deciding to retire, management coming to you and saying "hey, Elsa also wants to retire. Can you stick it out for a bit longer to finish this tournament cycle? Then we can organize your retirement". You think to yourself, "ok sure why not? One last stand, then I retire." Then you play, and do exceedingly well. Ameng, or Gaga, your dva and zarya is supreme; leave carries, and you think back to s2 when you, ameng, and jinmu did nonsense like this in goats. Except it's working now. You beat seoul in a thrilling 3-2 match, and qualify for hawaii tournament. You beat the fuel. multiple time. You dispatch atlanta with ease. You lose to shanghai, granted, in a well fought map, and think to yourself "We still stand a good chance of doing well. This turned out to be a great idea, sticking it out." You reach the SS grand finals. You win the first control map. You lose the next 3, and make it back to control. You get into your groove, thinking control is yours again. You make it to point in OT
and this happens.

so tragic

[weary widget]

history repeats itself

[wicked pendant]

Leave's will is broken

[supple prism]

finished this tournament with exactly 100 points

[hollow bough]

I got all my credits for that match

Started with 0 this season, ended with 245

[raw ermine]

this is why I took english class

[weary widget]

Cheng9 depression

i saw the OT burning and im like " no fucking way"

[jade wren]

When’s the next tournament?

[willow tartan]

next month

[jade wren]

Are they every month?

[hollow bough]

for the next two weeks it will be contenders

[novel nebula]

july 30

[wicked pendant]

We about to find out who's banned, boys

[worn falcon]

Expected match

[wicked pendant]

PLACE YOUR BETS

[weary widget]

Dva

[worn falcon]

But Dallas big dumb

[hollow bough]

Dva

[willow tartan]

DVa mei sym ana

[weary widget]

nof ucking way dva isnt banned

[jade wren]

Cool, thank you.

[worn falcon]

Oh well vacations to keep their shit

[hollow bough]

Ana getting banned will be rough

[worn falcon]

And pine waiting till next season

[quaint aurora]

This is rough

[willow tartan]

poko waiting till next season bro

[novel nebula]

^^^ @wicked pendant

[quaint aurora]

Shanghai are a mile away from the competition

[barren quest]

Is there a encore for this match?

[willow tartan]

yes

[quaint aurora]

Not even close

[hollow bough]

Yes

[quaint aurora]

Tmr at noon I assume

[novel nebula]

who'd win s4 shanghai or s3 shock

[barren quest]

Alright cool, I should hopefully get the last uh 20 tokens I need

Or not

[willow tartan]

in this meta? it'd be way closer than any other team

[novel nebula]

mhm

[hollow bough]

Good luck on those tokens

I got 15

So maybe if you watch to the very end of this stream and catch the encore as soon as it gets up, you could get 20

[weary widget]

imagine if dragons won May Melee too

[nocturne yacht]

Not the Cheng9😭😭😭

[willow tartan]

If dragons won the May melee then we wouldn't have had the June Joust lower bracket revenge arc

[wicked pendant]

Just end the season

[kind ridge]

dallas for countdown cup

?

but what a run for chengdu

[willow tartan]

philly for countdown cup?

if they dont pick up steam theyre gonna have a rough post season

[next mesa]

yes

[stuck radish]

shock for countdown cup

pls

[tacit skiff]

alright see you again week after next week

[willow tartan]

shock philly countdown cup pls

[novel nebula]

if philly don't make the knockouts for the 3rd time in a row tho...

[willow tartan]

theyre dead in the water

[barren quest]

Inb4 not makes it in the knockouts or get 3-0'd by some team in the knockout match

[tacit skiff]

Stand1 bout to mtd Super watch

[upper niche]

So it looks like I got OWL tokens for the short time I was watching on YouTube, but not watching via the OWL website 😦

[tacit skiff]

owl tokens been broken

this is a scam

they're doing it on purpose I 100% guarantee

[noble nexus]

They always work for me

[tacit skiff]

they bout to drop two skins for the countdown cup

[noble nexus]

Maybe you’re just like not good enough idk

Get better at watching bro

[wicked pendant]

Pro-watch strats video when

[balmy wolf]

so we are getting lucio owl skin

for this summer showdown

[barren quest]

No it's for Ana

[stuck radish]

we got an ana skin for it

[earnest leaf]

You know i'm starting to think something

[worn hornet]

they should publish the whole book

[balmy wolf]

what

[earnest leaf]

I think junkbuck/crusty are two pieces to a puzzle

and alone they are nothing special

but together are op

[balmy wolf]

how can we get ana skin before winning

we got early

[willow tartan]

+20 differential

playoffs confirmed, time to lose every map bois

[hollow bough]

Some people need to refresh between matches

[sullen berry]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugz02_CKhXwcnyjcJit4AaABCQ

https://tenor.com/view/call-an-ambulance-callanambulance-butnotforme-gif-19487241

[nocturne yacht]

https://twitter.com/fs4sniperr/status/1415391406726787079?s=21
Pls RT

fs4snipperrr (@fs4sniperr)

@TorontoDefiant how many RTs to get a defiant jersey🤔

Retweets

336

Twitter · Jul 14, 2021, 7:23 PM

[upper niche]

Yeah I'm talking over the last >week. Looks like I got tokens for the last hour or so when I watched directly on YouTube, but not when watching via the OWL website 😦

[tawdry hamlet]

lmao I got the dva skin the very first day

but I got no tokens lmao

not that it matters a ton because I have 560

but annoying lmao

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/eyleahcbye/status/1416606196136517633

hayley 希文 (@eyleahcbye)

210718 English translation of Fate's Discord update

Twitter · Jul 18, 2021, 3:50 AM

[fossil sand]

Who won?

[willow tartan]

dragons

[mortal cipher]

Yep and we can still lose 4 times and still be number one we ain’t losing the top spot

[willow tartan]

what did fate tweet?

[earnest leaf]

I'm glad fate has been having success

Always rated him highly even on mayhem

[sullen berry]

[tiny pollen]

when are the hero bans announced

[earnest leaf]

next week most likely

[tiny pollen]

ty

[tropic herald]

Fate

[mortal cipher]

Ah

[willow tartan]

i think it was this tweet?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/olcam5/fate_on_twitter_agree_na_have_some_more/

something something "even if NA had more scrim time who would they scrim to practice for ball comp?" as according to top comment

[fossil sand]

I mean he isn’t wrong

[digital cloud]

they still weren't running ball last I saw

[willow tartan]

well it upset some people and he apologised for it, so its all good.

uhh

i think dallas tried to mirror the ball for one map?

then just gave up afterwards

[fossil sand]

Clearly a bunch of cry babies

He’s right in the fact that NA aren’t going to be able to play against something when they never face it anyway

[digital cloud]

na still does get kinda screwed, though

it is true that na has like, no good ball players, however

[earnest leaf]

same thing would suck for apac if NA meta was purely rein and apac only ran winston

but it ended up rein comps were just better

Na has some players that can run ball

just not as many as apac

[willow tartan]

haha its not like that happened

[digital cloud]

they can run ball

but none are that good

except maybe mag?

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/avast_o/status/1416606404518064129?s=21

Avast (@Avast_o)

Bout to hit the brain gym

Twitter · Jul 18, 2021, 3:51 AM

Babe wake up avast dropped a new power rankings

[earnest leaf]

me thinks

slight scuffed

[digital cloud]

this list is shit

[earnest leaf]

I'm gonna say it

[digital cloud]

as expected of avast

[earnest leaf]

paris that high is braindead

mfs ran into a glads that hard fucking threw

[digital cloud]

and washington and glads

[earnest leaf]

beat london and titans

[gusty rampart]

Shanghai doubters are in tears

[earnest leaf]

and lost to a hardcore struggling shock

[digital cloud]

shock below boston?

[barren quest]

Isn't Paris a mid tier team rn

[earnest leaf]

imo yes

[gusty rampart]

Above Average team

Impressive for an all European roster

Tbh I'd put Titans at complete bottom

Their main tank has ping and I'm 99% can't speak English

Also Mayhem comeback imminent

[willow tartan]

valiant would beat vancouver

[gusty rampart]

^^^

[earnest leaf]

nah

[gusty rampart]

Spitfire would beat both easily

[earnest leaf]

titans are bad

but I still think they are just above valiant

[gusty rampart]

I disagree

[willow tartan]

valiant put up a better fight against shanghai than atlanta

[gusty rampart]

Also Valiant players are wholesome as hell

[earnest leaf]

drawing one map isn't putting up a better fight let's be honest

shd probably did a hard amount of trolling

[fossil sand]

Are the shock shit now?

[gusty rampart]

Better than Reign omegalul

[gusty rampart]

Nah

Just not as good

[earnest leaf]

Reign would still dumpster and hard bully valiant

[gusty rampart]

They're figuring stuff out

[earnest leaf]

Shock are just

[willow tartan]

reign vs silver3 ball

[earnest leaf]

confused

[gusty rampart]

Haha no shit

[earnest leaf]

Also

Valiant has won two maps this entire season

two

[willow tartan]

and one of them was a full hold against the fusion

[gusty rampart]

How is Fusion so bad

They have a stacked roster

[earnest leaf]

idk

[willow tartan]

how is shock bad they have a stacked roster

[earnest leaf]

idk

[gusty rampart]

Striker left a hole they have to fill

[tropic herald]

Shock bad

[earnest leaf]

losing the best tracer is impossible to properly fill sadly

[tropic herald]

[gusty rampart]

Nawwww

[earnest leaf]

But glister I think can take his overall role

[gusty rampart]

Shock ain't baddd

[earnest leaf]

Like this stage shock's dps have actually been solid

[tropic herald]

Shock lost to Houston who lost to Boston

[gusty rampart]

They were "meming"

[barren quest]

Shock's roster choices have been questionable

Like Viol2t main support

[earnest leaf]

they just need to take a note of all the teams this hawaii

and see what they all do

keep the same 6 in at all times

[barren quest]

And not having a consistent roster

[earnest leaf]

Legit

all they gotta do is keep the same 6 in

[tropic herald]

Shock would win if they just didn’t lose

[earnest leaf]

and they will instantly look better

Even if it means smurf running rein or super running monkey

[tropic herald]

Also https://twitter.com/mattmersel/status/1416593629188001801?s=21

BackpackMatt 🦉 (@MattMersel)

https://t.co/7iJ0aCktkS

Likes

281

Twitter · Jul 18, 2021, 3:00 AM

[willow tartan]

maybe fdgod is done sleeping

[gusty rampart]

Super really has the most flexibility on the tank roster

[willow tartan]

does he?

[earnest leaf]

super can play rein super well, orisa really well

and that's about it

his monkey/ball are nothing special

[gusty rampart]

Hog and Monkey pretty well

But like that's flexibility

[earnest leaf]

hog won't be meta ever again

[willow tartan]

I would say choi is more flexible than both

[gusty rampart]

Thank God

[barren quest]

No more Hog MT

[earnest leaf]

but i'll give shock some slight copium for this past stage

[willow tartan]

maintank hog is what my nightmares are made of

[earnest leaf]

lost a star player and had to bring in an old one

It would be like if dallas lost fearless

or if shd lost lip or fleta

[tropic herald]

I just need monkey banned

That would be fun

[earnest leaf]

I'd be ok with a monkey ban

He's been meta for a while

[gusty rampart]

Echo ban pls

D.Va ban actually pls

[tropic herald]

Monkey Sym Echo Mercy

[gusty rampart]

Replace that with D.Va then gud

[earnest leaf]

Sym/mei/sigORmonkey/brig

[digital cloud]

man I remember when monkey first became relevant

[gusty rampart]

I'm so tired of seeing D.Va

[barren quest]

Isn't Ball Dva the best tankline rn

[digital cloud]

miro was a god

[tawdry hamlet]

Can we just not have brain dead na mei rein rush that shit is boring as fuck

[earnest leaf]

rush is fun

[gusty rampart]

True

[digital cloud]

we suddenly realized as a community that monkey was good

[earnest leaf]

but it always ends up fucking going to mei sym

and that shit is annoying

[digital cloud]

twas a revelation

[tawdry hamlet]

Rush is fine I'm just tired of mei

😭

[willow tartan]

okay so what if we ban mei sym

[barren quest]

Alright if Sym and Mei were banned, what dps would be run in brawl

[tropic herald]

If Dva gets banned we are gonna see a lot of Pharah

[barren quest]

Mccree Doom?

[tropic herald]

Necessary evil

[willow tartan]

cree doom/reaper

[tawdry hamlet]

If mei sym is banned Sombra dva in apac because that's just their meta and then some dumb shit in na with reaper

[tropic herald]

Although I love watching dva

[tawdry hamlet]

Sombra tracer I mean

[willow tartan]

If DVa gets banned there's only like 3 teams that plays pharah so that wouldn't matter

[tawdry hamlet]

We have also seen a lot of torb, which is strange

[tropic herald]

Just be Shanghai and bait everyone into playing ball comps then find the counter ball comp

[gusty rampart]

I thought it was memes at first

[tawdry hamlet]

Torb Sym Pharah, 3 heroes I didn't think would be relevant outside of sym for hanamura and pharah for lijang

[willow tartan]

anyway we're overdue for a hitscan meta

[gusty rampart]

Nawwww

[willow tartan]

countdown cup hitscans?

[earnest leaf]

give is a hard widow meta

[tropic herald]

Hitscan is dead

[earnest leaf]

I want ans to fuck again

[gusty rampart]

Shitscan

[tawdry hamlet]

The only hitscan meta we've seen was mei sym rush 😭

[gusty rampart]

Wait no this

[willow tartan]

yes I want a hard widow meta

[gusty rampart]

Anything for Ans

[tropic herald]

Birdring

[willow tartan]

kai

[balmy wolf]

return to double shield meta

[gusty rampart]

Where the actual fuck was Kai

[willow tartan]

gwangboong

[earnest leaf]

no widow in NA is making it rough for ans

Only widow that ever widow diffed ans

[tropic herald]

Shy

[earnest leaf]

was mr 7 am

[tropic herald]

[tawdry hamlet]

I cannot brain jfc I meant mei cree rush

God

And widow on junker town

[tropic herald]

Someone put shy on a good team

Please

[willow tartan]

someone put shy and leave on the same team please

[barren quest]

So uh what happened to Lige

[willow tartan]

retired

[tropic herald]

Depression

[tiny pollen]

ban ball mercy ashe echo

[tawdry hamlet]

Haunzghou would look good if they were playing against the middle of na methinks. Like they seem like they'd dominate Boston Toronto Houston

But their coaches suck

And they play their weakest roster

😭

[willow tartan]

monkey tracer sombra dive again?

[earnest leaf]

spark has no coaches atm I think right?

[tawdry hamlet]

Interim one

Oh yeah

They just fired

I forgot

[tropic herald]

They have an analyst

[tawdry hamlet]

I didn't announce that one because I thought empathy would

Loll

[tiny pollen]

hmm

[willow tartan]

team with no coaches hmmm

[tawdry hamlet]

What's hilarious is

[tropic herald]

By the time I saw Hangzhou announcement I was way too late LPL

[tawdry hamlet]

Spark with no coaches > Toronto and GZ

[mortal cipher]

Oof

[tawdry hamlet]

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[tropic herald]

Just saying China would win WC if there was one this year

[tawdry hamlet]

It's funny because Toronto actually did have potential this year

[tiny pollen]

i want to see rein brawl in the countdown finals

[mortal cipher]

For sure

[tawdry hamlet]

Also imagine London with apply aspire instead of hybrid blase

[barren quest]

What went wrong with Toronto

[tawdry hamlet]

That is what they almost went with 😭

[tiny pollen]

but i dont think anything can be banned to maek rein brawl meta

[mortal cipher]

Probably not

[tawdry hamlet]

Toronto, Heesu Naist are A, Sado overrated Michelle was benched for gesture marvel right? And then aztac never plays and lastro is worse than before and Ansoonjae is just like meh as fuck because he's like any other main support

Aspire is highlight though

[willow tartan]

ban ball, ana, echo, mei for best meta

[tiny pollen]

winston rush

our double shield

[tawdry hamlet]

I know everyone says it's sleeper but genji tracer widow ashe double shield is peak overwatch

[willow tartan]

I want Ashe tracer double shield

[tawdry hamlet]

So most of last year?

[tiny pollen]

double shield zzzzz

[willow tartan]

double shield is fun to watch and fun to play

[tawdry hamlet]

Only thing I don't like about ds is it makes off tanks look so meh if they aren't a goat sigma

[tiny pollen]

disagree

[tawdry hamlet]

Main tanks don't care what they play otherwise they would play a different role lmaoo but off tanks have to play the boring off tank and if they aren't goated at it they just look meh

[barren quest]

Can't wait for Junkrat to get overbuffed for playoffs

[digital cloud]

that would be great

[willow tartan]

outlaws vs boston finals

[tawdry hamlet]

In before bastion tweaks right before playoffs

[digital cloud]

we could use a junkrat meta

[willow tartan]

if bastion tweaks then Shanghai wins obviously

best coordination in the league 😎

mfw pirate ship meta

[tawdry hamlet]

If whoru or develop don't play a single map I'll be disappointed pls with hitscan being dead fucking play whoru just once 😭

[willow tartan]

he's only gonna get played during a blizzard "fuck you here's a broken patch" moments

now develop has a slightly higher chance of being played if we get something like double sniper

[tawdry hamlet]

Tbh I bet fusions poko taiyo aztac 1987 coldest seominsoo Logix and many more are never playing another map in owl 😭

[willow tartan]

besides whoru did already play a map

Busan against Seoul I think?

[tawdry hamlet]

I forgot about ttuba brig

[barren quest]

They played Whoru against Valiant during JJ iirc

[tawdry hamlet]

Must suck for people like Logix who are permabenched and just sit there knowing that they've played their most likely last map of their career already

[digital cloud]

can always go to an easier game

like cs or valorant

[mortal cipher]

Unfortunate

[mortal abyss]

Shanghai are unfair man

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean this is what was supposed to happen last year if hog meta didn't happen. Then they cut out the extras like dding Luffy and they are doing even better

I just don't see why s3 shock dominating didn't bother people but s4 Shanghai the na copium go brr.

Not that the debate between regions even matters because most of na is asian players anyway

[upper niche]

Plus the three NA teams competing in APAC because visas and home countries are a thing.

[earnest leaf]

People were turbo pissed at shock rolling everyone last year too

There's a reason a lot of people hate shock

Exact same thing will happen to shd if they do a shock type run

Just a common thing among sports to dislike the team that does the best

hence why the patriots have been hated for years in the nfl

[forest raven]

Bro every time shock plays still after not going to hawaii a single time everyone wants them to lose lmfao

[upper niche]

SFS have been screwed by draws every stage. Look at who they've lost to result in them not getting to Hawaii.

[forest raven]

Every single team the Shock has played so far this season besides one has made it to the knockouts

And they're still in 2nd

In NA

[tawdry hamlet]

Thats what's so stupid lmao

every time you want to say shock aren't working you look and it's like oh. They're second best record wtf

Shame regular season isn't knockout wins 😭

[upper niche]

Off the top of my head they've lost to what, HOU, DAL and uhh... FLM?

[forest raven]

Houston, Houston, and Glads in regular season

Dallas and Atlanta in knockouts

[upper niche]

oh, they beat FLM who made the knockouts.

Would have made it interesting if they'd run a system where they host four/three NA teams in Hawaii for two weeks, and over those two weeks they play all the APAC teams.

Then over the course of the season everyone could play all teams.

[forest raven]

I don't think they did anything like that because it costs hella money to be in Hawaii

[upper niche]

Accommodation is hella expensive everywhere in the US. Hawaii wasn't any more expensive than Seattle or LA.

[forest raven]

It also costs a ton to use the facilities at the university

[upper niche]

But also don't they have an agreement witht he local uni - I imagine they're providing lodging?

[forest raven]

Also the league is paying for Hawaii I imagine

Accommodation and all that is paid for by the orgs

[upper niche]

either way, right now noone in OWL is making money.

My long-term predication back in the early days was that come end of season 5/start of season 6 we'll see franchises sold off/moved.

[tawdry hamlet]

I genuinely can't see quite a bit of the current talent sticking out another year

It's gonna be a sadge off season because a lot of the og players will retire

[earnest leaf]

I think space is gonna retire this off season

[mortal abyss]

I think carpe might be staying, for better or for worse

[upper niche]

What I don't understand is how so many players are jumping to Valorant of all games. I basically see nothing of it. It's barely promoted, it doesn't seem to have any appeal to draw people in... I don't tget it.

[earnest leaf]

early in it's esports scene

So much easier to get in

Same with OW when it started, bunch of people jumped into it

and 90% of them would be awful today

[mortal abyss]

Valorant esports also tend to be better managed (because owned by riot) then ow esports

[earnest leaf]

double edged sword of a new esport is orgs and what not fuck over players a lot

[mortal abyss]

Yeah

Because no actual league rules

Although you still get orgs screwing people in owl

[earnest leaf]

true

[upper niche]

it's kinda amusing that OWL in its first season had more revenue in it than the entire NRL in Australia.

[mortal abyss]

Wasn’t it like $89,000,000?

To be honest OWL in Korea and China is a healthy esport in terms of owner investment and viewership (power of billibi baybee), it’s just in NA that it seems to be “dying”

[upper niche]

half a billion dollars.

[earnest leaf]

that's what happens when you have like 8 NA players

[upper niche]

I suppose that's another factor I hadn't really considered: What's the cost of living in Korea or China compared to the US - where OWL player contracts have a minimum figure of 50k/pa.

[earnest leaf]

15 NA players mb

or united states players

I think SK does something similar to Japan where they have a lot of small places to live

So I imagine not a lot, but in the US it's incredibly varied based off location

[upper niche]

Absolutely. SFS players living in SanFran would not be living in the inner city, that's for sure.

Vancouver players? oof.

[earnest leaf]

iirc sfs is in LA because sanfran is expensive af

[upper niche]

Wouldn't surprise me. But I mean if ever they did end up housing their players out of their home town.

[balmy wolf]

Shanghai won

zzzzz

[upper niche]

it just occurred to me that we are very likely to end up in a situation where the results of any finals tournament for the Countdown Cup has no bearing on the finals seeding for the League finals.

[forest raven]

Shanghai could go 0-12 in the CC and be comfortably number 1 in APAC

[upper niche]

0-12? They only have 4 matches to play.

They're 9 points up. Even if SHD lost every game, and SEO/CDH won all four matches, PLUS the countdown cup, they can't match them on points.

[forest raven]

Map score

[upper niche]

oh right.

Dallas only have to win 1 match depending on the teams they play, and they've got top position for NA.

SFS v DAL in week 1 (week 16). hah.

ATL beating HOU will also basically help make the other results irrelevant.

I can't for the life of me find anything on the OWL website that specifies the format the finals will be conducted under.

All we really seem to know is that the finals will be double-elim, with 3 teams from APAC and 5 from NA.

Looks like it might just use league points rather than that ridiculous 'highest seed picks who they play against' format - but they're also doing this silly play-ins thing too so who knows.

[worldly flax]

checking the countdown cup sched and here we go again

[hollow bough]

lol

[balmy wolf]

bro the fact that Hawaii points dont even help the placing makes me mald

Hawaii games shouldnt be worth less than regular games

whoever thought of that should be fired

[willow tartan]

bro wym

hawaii points for the end of season playoffs

[balmy wolf]

look at the standings

[willow tartan]

yea

what am i lookin at

[balmy wolf]

atl has 8 points and a better map diff

but is under justice

and another team

[sullen berry]

Who in the shock

[balmy wolf]

cause of regular season wins

[willow tartan]

man idk doesnt matter anyways

[sullen berry]

Has a comically large crosshair

[balmy wolf]

its does

[sullen berry]

That was Ta1yo, right?

[balmy wolf]

yeah kenobi