esports-discussion

[wicked pendant]

DIgital is a stand-in, but not a substitute

I get the idea but I feel like there's probably a better way to say it.

[willow tartan]

?

[wicked pendant]

The Toronto Alpha Flight guy on the community feature was saying how digital was a "stand-in, but not a substitute" to in-person stuff.

Like

Stand-in and substitute are kind of synonyms you know

[willow tartan]

toronto alpha flight guy on the community feature

that is the first time i have heard those words stringed together

[willow tartan]

Digital is what we have to live with, but it doesn't fully replace live events.

[wicked pendant]

Yeah, like I said, I get what he was saying, but I feel like it could have been said better.

[feral zodiac]

No mvp skin this time remember

[willow tartan]

no

there will be an mvp skin this year

[feral zodiac]

I thought they said they aren't doing it again

[willow tartan]

idc what blizzard says im gonna force them to make one

no fuck that shit

that was just bullshit

swear to god if they dont make an mvp skin

literally free money

[stuck radish]

they wont

[willow tartan]

i will commit homicide

[feral zodiac]

No

[stuck radish]

thank sinatraa for that

[willow tartan]

its literally free money for blizzard

0 reason not to do it

i need my goddamn LIP mvp skin bro

i will mald if we dont get one

[stuck radish]

linkzr mvp skin*

[wicked pendant]

Hmm yeah I'd like a Lip MVP Sombra skin

[willow tartan]

^^^^^

[feral zodiac]

Roolf mvp

[willow drum]

Istg if Leave does't have an Role Star

[willow tartan]

leave and shy

[willow drum]

Like Lip Leave and Shy all deserve DPS Role Star

[north relic]

Lip and leave are locks imo

[willow tartan]

too bad there can only be 4 role stars

[north relic]

We purposely tie for 5

It doesn’t work like that

[willow tartan]

idk man as long as izayaki gets a role star this year

[north relic]

But last year we had 5

[willow tartan]

man was robbed last year

[north relic]

Honestly izayaki is my favorite shd player

[willow tartan]

then again it was like

viol2t fdgod leejaegon alarm

but still

robbed

[north relic]

Fdgod deserved it last year I would say

[willow tartan]

they all deserved it

[tired zodiac]

where ws fd last year?

[willow tartan]

paris

[north relic]

Paris

[tired zodiac]

ohh

[willow drum]

Has Twilight ever gotten Role Star?

He has in S2 right

[willow tartan]

yes

[sullen berry]

loving the ride

winners finals encore

they were this close to losing eichenwalde

[willow drum]

Is it safe to assume that Reign, Dallas, Chengdu and Shanghai are the top teams

[willow tartan]

well i mean they did qualify after all...

[willow drum]

Also, is it just me or is Dallas getting weaker

[sullen berry]

we did say this about mayhem too during may melee

at least better than average

[willow tartan]

dallas has been slipping from dominance yeah

[willow drum]

Yeah like

[wicked pendant]

Dallas definitely STILL top NA team, even considering their shakier performance lately.

[willow tartan]

ofc

[willow drum]

I guess

[wicked pendant]

I wouldn't count Reign as a top team, though.

[willow drum]

But I think their game against Shock

would be very very

[wicked pendant]

Like, not definitively.

[willow drum]

close

[willow tartan]

they made tournaments twice

[sullen berry]

I think Countdown cup will be another renaissance period for Hangzhou

[north relic]

And then they lose to nyxl

[sullen berry]

while Charge is still trying to complete a qualifier with more than 1 win 3 losses

[willow tartan]

nahh

countdown cup is seouls time to shine

playoffs is where fusion will come a live with full roster

[sullen berry]

it better be

[willow tartan]

that is my preds

[sullen berry]

playoffs seoul and fusion are pretty scary

[north relic]

I kinda have lost hope in fusion

[willow drum]

Eh I think Countdown Cup is where Fuel falls

[willow tartan]

playoffs fusion where they went 0-6?

[north relic]

Last year playoffs fusion choked hard

[willow drum]

And then one of the NA teams will take their place

as No. 1

[sullen berry]

it's a cliche that they never will make it to the top

[north relic]

Depends on bans

[sullen berry]

but it really suits them too well

[willow tartan]

i think that they will pop off during the playoffs

seoul will gamer in countdown cup

[north relic]

If fuel were to fall who will take their place

[sullen berry]

at every stage of their appearance each year, season 2 was their worst performance

[willow tartan]

shock/houston

[sullen berry]

and that's because you've got carpe on goats most of the time

and Shanghai was really resting their mental

they went 8 maps in the playoff elims

[north relic]

Many people were guessing a na grand finals

[tired zodiac]

had to close yt chat

hard cringe

[north relic]

Who was the second apac best team last year

Charge right?

[noble nexus]

guangzhou

charge were the second best throughout the season but that was just because double shield was good all season

[earnest leaf]

tbf no one predicted the meta to slip to fucking hog sig double sniper

[north relic]

Looking at that meta rn it seems ridiculous

[willow tartan]

It is and was ridiculous back then too

the hog patch was broken straight out of the gate

literally one shot tanks

[stuck radish]

that patch was specifically for OWL and probably the genji patch too

gotta make it interesting for viewers

[willow tartan]

yes and i will never forgive blizzard for it

purposefully making busted patches to make owl "entertaining"

[stuck radish]

i can forgive the hog patch

[willow tartan]

ruining the competitive integrity of the league

[stuck radish]

but the genji patch

[willow tartan]

dude the genji patch they didnt even try to make it look not obvious

[stuck radish]

i will never forgive them for that one

[willow tartan]

they had it for a week

[earnest leaf]

lmao

[willow tartan]

just for the summer showdown

[earnest leaf]

"oh let's casually make genji broken"

[stuck radish]

i remember the genji mains were saying hes slightly overtuned

hmmm

[earnest leaf]

just as a reference

[willow tartan]

slightly

[earnest leaf]

my dps at the time was hovering around 3400

genji was my worst dps

I basically just perma locked him and got to 3700

[stuck radish]

lmao

i didnt play genji a single time in that meta

[earnest leaf]

He won neutral fights so easily, right click spam and ez win

[willow tartan]

remember when they banned hitscans for a week and it was pharah meta

[stuck radish]

i swore to never do it

[willow tartan]

^^^

right click farm

blade

win ult trading

thats why the summer showdown and grand finals dont count last year

[stuck radish]

i remember when they banned ball and i was so happy because i was getting ball players on my team every game who just fed the entire game

tbf i was plat

but still

[next mesa]

Seoul coaches were actually big brained for once tbh

Hog sig before everyone else

[earnest leaf]

remember when fits tried to solo emp smurf

on busan

[next mesa]

Ppl thought they were cheesing it but turns out it was actual meta

[earnest leaf]

and couldn't even kill him, and lost the map because of it

[willow tartan]

the actual meta was cheese

[next mesa]

Factual

[feral zodiac]

Genji was so busted for that little period of time

And some people want that genji back

[willow tartan]

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

[sullen berry]

Hey for the lost part people just want lip to be nerfed

Go back to the sombra when she generated ult charge through health packs and limited invisibility

[willow tartan]

that would be a buff for LIP

instead of 40 second emps its 30 second

[sullen berry]

20s emp on defense

[little tusk]

@plush grail https://youtu.be/xM1SXAStnYo?t=465

[plush grail]

what

oh my

that is actually insane

oniGODGAMER

[earnest leaf]

widow very balanced

[plush grail]

onigod diff

[worldly flax]

can y'all watch the encore?

it's not appearing on their website and mobile app but I can see it on youtube

[cursive plover]

It bugged out for me

And I just stopped trying after like 2 minutes

[worldly flax]

ooh thanks

I thought I got banned from ''watching'' because I was afk for too long

[cursive plover]

Yeah I doubt that lmao

[worldly flax]

it's still bugged

my tokens

[cursive plover]

[tacit skiff]

tokens L

[gusty rampart]

I've been having no trouble with tokens and the D.Va skin

[tacit skiff]

no one asked

[gusty rampart]

Ok Boston fan

[noble nexus]

Boston fan lul

[gusty rampart]

Boston fans are a norm in this society

What happened

[noble nexus]

Boston got an almost decent team

Unfortunately

[worldly flax]

hope it gets added retroactively

[willow tartan]

bston

[balmy wolf]

yea no tokens

[willow tartan]

dose anyone have the anime outro music for owl

[balmy wolf]

If we never had Aero and kept Decay we would be undefeated

[hot onyx]

My nan is sad

[cursive plover]

I legit just realised Alarm played for BK stars when he was 15

If my math is correct

I always forget these players aren't actually much older than me

[raw ermine]

even better, he was a MT player back then

15 YO MT alarm

[cursive plover]

Yeah I was watching their game against Envy and I was confused for a moment

Then I remembered

Even crazier half of this years Dallas roster are born in 02

[willow tartan]

3-0verwatch

[cursive plover]

(well, half isn't really correct but saying like a third sound nerdy)

[willow tartan]

yeah, feel even more shit that youre bad at ow

[cursive plover]

I've just come to terms with the fact that I suck

[hot onyx]

4-1 Hunters

[willow tartan]

4-1 hunters in your dreams

shanghai either get swept or dont lose

[cursive plover]

I'm fine with 4-1 hunters because that means Shanghai can be beaten

[willow tartan]

thats the only two ways this match can go

[cursive plover]

Them dominating apac isn't surprising but someone else being on par with them would be nice

[willow tartan]

dude im so excited

its in what 2 hours?

im so hyped

playoffs give me so much life

[cursive plover]

Okay now my brain hurts on another level

[willow tartan]

god i wish i could stop existing and just watch overwatch league instead

[cursive plover]

Gwangboong is only a year older than me

[tacit skiff]

I wish overwatch didn't exist so I could be happy instead

[cursive plover]

I would like to request one free pass to being good at the game pls

[willow tartan]

Be Korean

[cursive plover]

This doesn't make sense to me

It's almost as if I'm getting older as time goes by

[willow tartan]

wish i was young enough to compete in OWL...

[tacit skiff]

rip to my left bumper, you will be severely missed

[willow tartan]

mf your career ends after 23

if you're lucky

[tacit skiff]

I've had my switch for over a year
no joycon drift yet
I've had my Xbox controller for 6 months
the left bumper stopped working
I hate this world so much

[candid gyro]

When does it start?

[cursive plover]

idk it's gonna be 4 am for me when it starts

but uh

the stream starts in 2 hours 15 minutes and the game in 2 hour 45 min

[candid gyro]

Alright

Thank you

[cursive plover]

np!

[tacit skiff]

hopefully it actually has tokens

[gusty rampart]

Shanghai is in favor tbh

More outstanding players

Leave and Jimnu are like the best and Shanghai's whole roster is the definition of stacked

[willow tartan]

on the ball sombra tracer mirror

LIP LeeJaeGon Void Izayaki are gonna diff their counterparts

[candid gyro]

Leejaegon

[willow tartan]

yes

[candid gyro]

Is a coinflip

[willow tartan]

well

[candid gyro]

He's dead half the fights

[willow tartan]

id say that yveltal has a higher chance of matching jaegon than lateyoung matching void

fate v ga9a i have no idea

they were playing more ameng this stage too which was weird

LIP is by far the better sombra

[candid gyro]

I honestly think they couldve had dragons the first time they played

[willow tartan]

izayaki's zen is just cracked and jacked

[candid gyro]

If they didn't go orisa

[willow tartan]

mm

maybe

[candid gyro]

It was just really dumb by chengdu

To throw away what was working

[willow tartan]

the final map wasnt close at all though

[candid gyro]

It felt like they lost all momentum as soon as they picked orisa

[willow tartan]

more maps means more map picks and i think in a situation where both teams can pick maps to play i think shanghai will win

like

chengdu winning would not only require an incredible performance from everyone on the hunters

[earnest leaf]

It's a coinflip game tbh

[willow tartan]

but it would also require shanghai to throw

[earnest leaf]

All depends of chengdu throws or not

[willow tartan]

i want to say that shanghai will most definitely not throw during this tournament grand finals

[candid gyro]

"Shanghai wont make this close"

[willow tartan]

mhm

i do not doubt them for a second

like them losing to the hunters in the grand finals would be more egregious than getting swept by hangzhou in the JJ

worse than the sweep by the hunters in the may melee

[candid gyro]

You said this last time and the opposite happened

I'm just hoping the same happens again

[willow tartan]

No need to hope. We know they're gonna win anyways 😎

I have faith.

[candid gyro]

Chengdu it to em

[willow tartan]

Every fibre of my body says shanghai takes the dub

losing to chengdu would be worse than losing to atlanta

[candid gyro]

Why?

[willow tartan]

because chengdu is someone they've played with regularly for a season and a half by now

[candid gyro]

Aren't atlanta still behind on the meta compared to apac?

[chilly jolt]

yes

[willow tartan]

Scoreline says it all...

[chilly jolt]

if i might chime in here rq

i personally think that in anything other than rein dva rush or double shield atlanta just straight up falls short

[willow tartan]

thats trueing

[chilly jolt]

compared to a lot of the other high tier teams who are able to run things like double bubble or monkey dva rush

things that are more prominent in the meta

of course, they are all superstar players who excel at their respective roles

but they need to diversify their availability

ok i'm done now continue

[candid gyro]

Mid tier apac teams could beat out atlanta imo

[willow tartan]

seoul would beat dallas

[chilly jolt]

⁉️⁉️⁉️

[candid gyro]

I do not back that

[willow tartan]

did you watch the seoul vs chengdu match?

[candid gyro]

I did

I just don't really think that the top na team loses to them

Unlike atlanta they can play monkey comps very effectively

[willow tartan]

chengdu straight out diffed dallas on the monkey comp

[chilly jolt]

false

[willow tartan]

semi finals map 4?

[chilly jolt]

how could you possibly compare FEARLESS and GA9A

[willow tartan]

because they won that map

[candid gyro]

Fearless was getting done in but that wasn't really a monkey diff

[willow tartan]

not monkey diff

im saying chengdu beat dallas on their own comp

team diff in the mirror

[chilly jolt]

i still think that match was just a fluke for dallas more than it was chengdu playing particularly well

but to each their own

[willow tartan]

was the 3-0 in the losers finals a fluke too?

seems like the two matches were convincing enough for me

[chilly jolt]

i suppose

[candid gyro]

I think chengdu are a top team in this meta

And were popping off especially well

Dallas playing a little below their average

[willow tartan]

I think dallas's sombra tracer dive just wasnt as coordinated

[chilly jolt]

that's true

[candid gyro]

Chengdu can also play ball

Which fearless just wont

[willow tartan]

yea but even on the monkey

like losers final's anubis

[candid gyro]

I think fearless' mental mightve been boomed at that point

[plush grail]

when is owl live

[willow tartan]

87 minutes

[tropic herald]

the game is in 2 hours

[willow tartan]

but the stream start earlier

for the epic preshow

(and more tokens)

[plush grail]

thanks memeicus for being the only person to respond to my question !

[noble nexus]

Shouldn’t have answered his question tbh

[hollow bough]

Do encores give owl tokens?

[raw ermine]

yes but you must watch them live, like broadcasts

[hollow bough]

yeah makes sense

I saw the entire stream yesterday

[tacit skiff]

tokens don't exist

don't even try to earn them

y'know what you can earn tho?

disappointment

o7

[candid gyro]

Disappointment in shanghai as they get 4-0 swept ofc

[willow tartan]

nahhh

4-0 for the dragons

[tacit skiff]

copium

[plush grail]

cease

dragons bandwagon fan

[willow tartan]

fuck yuo mean

dragons got this ez

[tacit skiff]

haha

[balmy wolf]

Dragons better win

[candid gyro]

I really hope hunters do

[lilac kestrel]

we supporting dragons over here

[candid gyro]

Rooting for the favourites?

Cringe

[lilac kestrel]

im a basic bitch

[feral zodiac]

Staying up till 2am to watch the game 😎

[balmy wolf]

DRAGONS WILL WIN EZY

[willow tartan]

Ez bruvs

[balmy wolf]

Nah fuck the Hunters

[tacit skiff]

I stg if I don't earn tokens for the one of the longest possible matches this season I'm gonna bomb Blizzard hq

[dreamy cave]

Let's goo hunterssss

[wooden yarrow]

Shanghai is gonna steam roll them easy

Well I hope

But hunters have been crippling everyone recently

[ivory stag]

lets go hunters

[willow tartan]

Shanghai get first map pick because they're a higher seed

[feral zodiac]

Bet it's a ball map

[willow tartan]

watch it be illios or lijang again

[candid gyro]

The desk are cowards

[tropic herald]

i bet they pick lijiang

[willow tartan]

they are enlightened

most titles 💪

[raw ermine]

MRX and uber

poggers

shanghai for 5 finals?

[plush grail]

this is actually fucking sad

[next mesa]

But lijiang jinmu can go pharah

[willow tartan]

where's philly

[next mesa]

[nocturne yacht]

Titans

[next mesa]

When they were so good

😔

[feral zodiac]

What is it?

[willow tartan]

at least they have a title

[nocturne yacht]

😔

[plush grail]

all of those teams are bottom tier now

only team on that list that is not bottom tier is paris maybe

[nocturne yacht]

And shock

Shanghai

Dallas

[feral zodiac]

Paris aren't bottom tier

[plush grail]

did u even look at what i posted

[tacit skiff]

alright everyone
here we go

[feral zodiac]

Fs4 I don't see any of those 3 on the list they sent

[nocturne yacht]

Oh I was thinking about the full one

Mb

[tacit skiff]

what is this

[feral zodiac]

Full one I'm guessing shock or shanghai have the most

Probs shock

[plush grail]

teams that wone stage titles

[plush grail]

shanghai has 4

shock has 3

no way shock is ever catching up again

shanghai is gonna stay ahead for a while

[tropic herald]

shanghai about to have 5

[tacit skiff]

CHENGDU IS ABOUT TO GET ONE LETSGOOOOO

[feral zodiac]

Who is up there as well?

[plush grail]

bandwagon

nne

none

[candid gyro]

LESSS GOOOOOO

[plush grail]

it's shanghai, then shock and then nyxl

[feral zodiac]

Huh

[ivory stag]

Hunters!

[tacit skiff]

back in the nyxl glory days

[raw ermine]

nisha?

no pharmercy?

[plush grail]

back in the fucking stone ages

[tacit skiff]

true!

[feral zodiac]

Back in the good times

[tacit skiff]

tactical pause

[feral zodiac]

Before the dark times

[tacit skiff]

Shanghai activating aimbots

[candid gyro]

"pp"- lip

[fossil sand]

Why they subbing people in?

[tacit skiff]

Shanghai is about to lose to connection issues lmao

[tropic herald]

someone get gaga a new camera

[tacit skiff]

btw

who is this Nisha person

[plush grail]

new ms

[feral zodiac]

Mercy player

Lucio player

Smth else

[tacit skiff]

are they new new or have they been benched?

[candid gyro]

Better mercy than pistol man?

[plush grail]

he's like ark but good

[feral zodiac]

Newish

[feral zodiac]

No

Yveltal is goated

[candid gyro]

So why is he on?

[feral zodiac]

Flexibility ig

[plush grail]

funny

[tacit skiff]

everyday, the chances pine doesn't play this season rises

DOGFIGHT

GODAMMIT

[candid gyro]

Istg chengdu like to sabotage themselves

[raw ermine]

sheesh

[willow tartan]

hoo

my fucking god

[balmy wolf]

nic shot

[tacit skiff]

jinmu what are you doing my boi

[plush grail]

PHARAH META

IT'S HAPPENING

[tacit skiff]

crazy sleep

[candid gyro]

????

[tacit skiff]

waiting for leave to do something zzzzzz

[next mesa]

Nisha so good

I'm not watching btw

IM OUTSIDE FUCK

[tacit skiff]

jfc how long is this fight gonna take

about time

[candid gyro]

78% apparently

[tacit skiff]

I hate this game already

[ivory stag]

h7unter cant let thewm just free take or its ggs

[tacit skiff]

c'mon chengdu

[candid gyro]

Hunters giving up the objective for free?

[ivory stag]

someone needs to stay by it those free flips are bs

[balmy wolf]

monk crazy sleeps

[candid gyro]

That's unheard of!

[tacit skiff]

they had to

[candid gyro]

Was talking about the anubis game

With dallas

[ivory stag]

the flying meta i dislike this

[tacit skiff]

oh
I didn't watch those matches

CHENGDU POGCHAMP

[ivory stag]

gr

[balmy wolf]

gr

[raw ermine]

damnnnn

[willow drum]

VERY

nice job

from Chengdu

[balmy wolf]

unexpected

[candid gyro]

Chengdid it to em

[dreamy cave]

Let's goooo

[tacit skiff]

this dogfight meta is very hit or miss to me

[willow drum]

Chengdu Zone!

[dreamy cave]

[ivory stag]

pray that dragons hard choke

[willow drum]

Nah I do hope Chengdu wins

sick and tired of dallas v dragons

[tacit skiff]

I'm hoping for 7 maps

[tawdry hamlet]

chengdu support line is unmatched

[candid gyro]

Hoping for a sweep

[tacit skiff]

mmonk omg

[candid gyro]

Unrealistic but yknow

[willow drum]

ok mmonk

we see u

[tacit skiff]

who needs dps you have mmonk

[willow drum]

fr

[balmy wolf]

aggressive monk dude

[ivory stag]

lets goooo

[tacit skiff]

what is Shanghai doing?

they seem so

unorganized

[willow drum]

and look at the emp diff from chengdu

[ivory stag]

they need to warm up im sure like june joust with fuel;

[tacit skiff]

nice izayaki

[willow drum]

lol izayaki's camera quality

[tacit skiff]

theres no way Shanghai fails this

[willow drum]

worse than my gameplay

[tacit skiff]

LJG

wow

they really did it

[ivory stag]

ggs

lets gooooo

[tawdry hamlet]

welcome to the chengdu zone

lol

[balmy wolf]

poggers

[raw ermine]

4-1 drags calling it

[true hound]

sheesh

[tacit skiff]

Shanghai experiencing that fear Dallas had

[ivory stag]

@willow tartan where that team at huh

[willow drum]

fr

[barren quest]

LETTS GOO

[fossil sand]

Bring back the Yveltal guy he’s good

[noble nexus]

Chengdu chads

[barren quest]

Good start

[willow tartan]

we still gon win dw

[willow drum]

Nisha + Mmonk already amazing

[tawdry hamlet]

Nisha has a better mercy than yveltal

that is why he was in

[tacit skiff]

Shanghai seemed so unorganized that second round

[ivory stag]

ill hold ya to it

[willow drum]

Eh SHD looking weak at their best game mode

[noble nexus]

Thank god this is gonna be competitive atleast

[fossil sand]

Bro I thought he on the dragons ngl

[ivory stag]

mmonk crazy ngl

[willow drum]

Its fine this'll be a banger

of a match

We will NOT be dissappointed

thats for sure

[wooden yarrow]

How tf did dragons lose first round

[willow drum]

unless Shanghai falls

over

[tacit skiff]

if Shanghai win this they secure their playoffs spot btw

[willow drum]

Players on Chengdu did better.

[severe tusk]

chengdu got ults and cycled

[willow tartan]

^

[willow drum]

Individually better preformances

and better ult engages

[severe tusk]

and nisha got a risky rez

on jinmu at the end

[willow drum]

nisha got kinda lucky

[tacit skiff]

also ljg out of position last fight

[wooden yarrow]

How does the playoff system work like what are the requirements to get in

[willow tartan]

idk how shanghai does it but whenever theres a long teamfight they always cap the point back

[willow drum]

It's +15

iirc

I don't know exactly

[wooden yarrow]

What’s iirc

[tacit skiff]

it's just the top teams from each region

[willow drum]

if i recall

[tacit skiff]

if Shanghai wins this game, they automatically get put in playoffs, they wouldn't have to win a single game in cc

[balmy wolf]

Damn chengdu looked good in that last map

[willow tartan]

mmonk styled on them

[tacit skiff]

Chengdu's looked good this whole tournie

[willow drum]

Mmonk > Izayaki

[tacit skiff]

2-3ing the Shanghai
Actually winnable

[balmy wolf]

Yh true @tacit skiff

[willow drum]

Mmonk is a very talented

flex support

[next mesa]

NO FUCKING WAY

CHENGDU WON

😩

[willow drum]

LMAO

[next mesa]

TFFFFFFF

[balmy wolf]

Only the first map lol

[tacit skiff]

chengdu pogchamp

[willow drum]

I think both leave and jinmu should both get role stars

[balmy wolf]

Hmm

What teams do u guys support?

[fossil sand]

None

Because liquid isn’t in OWL

[willow tartan]

Take a guess.

[balmy wolf]

Um

[tacit skiff]

Anyone but the Dragons

[balmy wolf]

I'm not sure @willow tartan

Is it the London spitfire

[tacit skiff]

so tired of the dragons
apac needs a new #1

[willow drum]

Shock and Glads from NA, Chengdu from APAC

[balmy wolf]

I see

Man I'm a philly fan 🥲

[stuck radish]

i forgot chengdu had another support player ngl

[balmy wolf]

Pain.

[tacit skiff]

Boston and Paris in NA, Chengdu in APAC

[willow drum]

Enough is said.

You need a hug @balmy wolf

[balmy wolf]

😅

[tacit skiff]

you're not the only one dw

[willow drum]

Your mental health needs to be checked

[balmy wolf]

Fr dude

[tacit skiff]

Philly still has fans?

[willow drum]

I think Uber is also a Philly fan

[wooden yarrow]

How close are shock to getting into playoffs?

[tacit skiff]

shock are #2 in na

[willow drum]

Shock pretty much gets in

[tacit skiff]

they should be fine

[balmy wolf]

Yh a few still around XD

[wooden yarrow]

Dope

[willow drum]

Shock will be fine don't worry

[candid gyro]

Philly fans enjoy the cbt their team gives

[tacit skiff]

unless they lose hard or smth

0-4 shock coming up just watch

[candid gyro]

Just too ashamed to accept it

[willow drum]

It's literally impossible

Shock go against like 2 bottom tier teams

1 mid tier team

and then a weak looking Dallas

[balmy wolf]

Who do u guys reckon wins the ow league championship this year?

[willow drum]

prob dragons

[tacit skiff]

all I need to say is

London 2-3

[willow drum]

but I want chengdu

But London > Vncouver

[balmy wolf]

Yeah makes sense

[tacit skiff]

shock fans quivering in their boots when facing london

[balmy wolf]

😂😂

[willow drum]

please dragons fall

[barren quest]

All the bandwagon Shock fans went to Fuel

[tacit skiff]

Chengdu doing good

#Winnable people are cringe

[willow drum]

Ya

[north relic]

I wonder where they are migrating next

[ivory stag]

does the amount of ppl capping point speed it up? like with payload moving?

[willow drum]

Uh Chengdu

LMAO

[willow drum]

yes

[tacit skiff]

ye

[balmy wolf]

Oh crap I didn't realise the next map started

[north relic]

Slight percent

[dreamy cave]

lets gooooo

[north relic]

It goes up to 3 people

[ivory stag]

does it cap at just 3 ppl like payload?

[balmy wolf]

Be back later ig lol

[willow drum]

I think right now Shock can beat Dallas

[tacit skiff]

holy shit

leave

[willow drum]

if Shock don't play like dogshit

LEAVE!!!

[tacit skiff]

leave you aren't human

[willow drum]

FUCKING MVP

HOLY LEAVE

GIVE HIM MVP

give him role star

[tawdry hamlet]

so they are getting value out of genji now

[tacit skiff]

LEAVE NOOOO

[balmy wolf]

2k ezy

[tacit skiff]

WAKE UP

[stuck radish]

whats the best OWL dva skin except shock

[willow drum]

oof leaveee

[willow drum]

nyxl looks nice

[tacit skiff]

boston

[willow drum]

chengdu does too

[tacit skiff]

it's okay, they only wanted a tick
they'll get the next two soon dw

[willow drum]

wait

fleta??

[north relic]

Oh I thought you meant payload I think it caps at 6 or 7 for bob

[tacit skiff]

mmonk sleeping on the job

[ivory stag]

they need to lengthen distance between points and spawns for both points and point b spawn dsefense

or just git rid of 2cp

[stuck radish]

dallas/nyxl look good

[ivory stag]

the stall is stupid

[willow drum]

agree

Chengdu prob won already

if 2cp wasnt dogshit

[tacit skiff]

rally?

[candid gyro]

Was that a 2cp?

[ivory stag]

like on offense in 2cp you have to team wipe two or three tiomes just to win

[tacit skiff]

disengage

please

[willow drum]

yeah

[north relic]

Sometimes you can just win one team fight if you are fast enough

[tacit skiff]

chengdu struggling

[ivory stag]

but that margin of error and team wiping is to small its dumb af

good thing 2cp is gone in ow2

[willow drum]

the hopium

I still have it

lets go hunt

[tacit skiff]

fleta???

God 2cp is so bad

it's way too stally

[willow drum]

no this is actually 2cp moment

[ivory stag]

escpecially with ball and spawns being that close

[willow drum]

Like if this was any other game mode

Chengdu would have won

[ivory stag]

they will win both payloads

[tacit skiff]

if ow2's only feature was removing 2cp, I'd buy it just for that

[wooden yarrow]

Gr

[willow drum]

yeah.

preach preach

[willow tartan]

that fleta blink was so sad

when he was slightly too close and blinked top instead of bottom

sadge

[wooden yarrow]

‘Twas

[tacit skiff]

fleta got carried

[willow tartan]

nahh

[balmy wolf]

fleta did his job

[willow drum]

fleta got diffed

[tacit skiff]

his job was to die

[willow drum]

by leave

[tacit skiff]

did a good job

[balmy wolf]

Well that was something

[willow drum]

Leave is MVP candidate

arguably front runner

[balmy wolf]

Lol

[willow drum]

I know who I'll vote for

tbh

[balmy wolf]

U changed ur name 😂

[ivory stag]

if 2 cp was a gif

https://tenor.com/view/officer-doofy-salute-doofy-gilmore-scary-movie-gif-12729976

[tacit skiff]

leave??

void feeding

[willow drum]

ya went from checkmate to leave

LOL

[ivory stag]

hunter full hold point a? Pog

Hold

[tacit skiff]

it's moments like that in comp where I would panic and make mistakes

"I don't know how he's still alive!"

ga9a dies

[willow drum]

Grav is infy

[weary widget]

yesssirrrr

[tacit skiff]

alright

make or break moment

[weary widget]

58.7%

[wooden yarrow]

Let’s gooo

[weary widget]

we got this dragonssss

[willow drum]

Chengdu please win Dragons has gotten boring

[tacit skiff]

ga9a loves sleeping

[ivory stag]

who are these casters? i love these 2

[willow drum]

Uber and Mr X

[weary widget]

Matt and Mitch right?

[willow drum]

Yeah

[weary widget]

personally love Uber (Mitch)

[tacit skiff]

not sideshow

[willow drum]

I love Uber, poor man. He's a Philly Fan

[tacit skiff]

what are they doing???

they're so pushed up

what was that nano?

what the hell is going on?

[willow drum]

by dragons

WHATS HAPPENING

[balmy wolf]

emp?

[tacit skiff]

this is overwatch in 2020

2021

and 2022

because no new heroes are ever being added ever again

[ivory stag]

this looks much more fun to watch than na teams lol

[willow drum]

fr

chaoss

[weary widget]

nah, not enough echo dva bombs

[tacit skiff]

leave?

[ivory stag]

fuel is walmart brand apac atl reign are shield scardy cats and shock cant work as a team to stay alive

[willow drum]

LOL REMEMBER

[north relic]

We have entered the Chengdu zone

[willow drum]

Dallas v Shock

6 dva bombs

[tacit skiff]

leave gets caught often

needs to work on that

[willow drum]

perhaps

but leave's so mechanically talented

[ivory stag]

screw june joust meta lol

[willow drum]

Chengdu has such a high peak

[weary widget]

SHANGHAI HAS 6 ULTS

COME ON

[tacit skiff]

gg

[willow drum]

fr

[weary widget]

YES

LETS GO

LETS GOOOO

[balmy wolf]

bro that reaper worked

[willow drum]

Uhhh u realize that Shanghai Official Discord

[tacit skiff]

really close too

[willow drum]

exists

@weary widget

[wooden yarrow]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO DRAGONFGG

[balmy wolf]

Noooooooo

[willow tartan]

that moment when chengdu cant fight against a reaper

[balmy wolf]

:(:(

[wooden yarrow]

the emp was clutch

[willow drum]

I sound so rude

[willow tartan]

lets go dragons!!

[tacit skiff]

is that the shock guy rooting for the team that destroys the shock

[weary widget]

nope

[north relic]

My favorite character is the reaper guy

[weary widget]

i'd rather be here

[ivory stag]

the fact that hunters won the first team fight on their atk with like 4;40 and still didnt win shows that 2cp is dumb af

[wooden yarrow]

Lmao no 👀

[weary widget]

how was control? i missed it

[severe tusk]

yeah, lip focusing leave was pretty clutch

[willow drum]

ya same

[weary widget]

was it a stomp?

[willow drum]

first round was good from both teams

[tacit skiff]

honestly, it was just an ult diff

[willow tartan]

you know shanghai got like 4 mins as well right

[willow drum]

2nd round shanghai was diffed

[willow tartan]

4:20

[severe tusk]

yeah

and they capped at the very end

[weary widget]

timebank doesnt guarantee a win

[tacit skiff]

Chengdu would've won it if the ult economy was more even

[severe tusk]

2cp is a different playstyle

[willow drum]

I don't know I really fucking hate 2cp.

[wooden yarrow]

And the death blossom

[weary widget]

who doesnt lol

[severe tusk]

and timebank isn't really as important in 2cp

[tacit skiff]

why do they promote contenders like they actually care about contenders

[ivory stag]

nah they took point a with 4;30 hunters took it at 5;45 but they had that genji nano team fight won but because stall central

[balmy wolf]

🤣

[ivory stag]

i insta leave games anytime i get 2cp fuck them

[willow drum]

OML

[willow tartan]

2cp is being removed for ow2

they confirmed it

[willow drum]

really?? @ivory stag

[willow drum]

ye we know

[ivory stag]

yeah

2cp is aids

[tacit skiff]

Numbani would be a great 2cp map

[ivory stag]

id rather not lose hair over poorly designed maps

[stuck radish]

yeah but 5v5

[tacit skiff]

Paris is kind of a shrunken Numbani now that I think about it

[willow tartan]

how is 5v5 gonna work when chengdu and hangzhou have like 12 man rosters lol

[willow drum]

Eh

[willow tartan]

sub out players every map

[willow drum]

Thats the neat part

[balmy wolf]

How lol 😂

[willow drum]

it wont work

[tacit skiff]

people get laid off

[tacit skiff]

people get laid off

5v5 is gonna cost a lot of players jobs

[ivory stag]

at the rate of owl players retiring im sure they wont have to worry about numbersd lol

[wooden yarrow]

The worst thing about 5v5 is super and Smurf will never get played for shock lmao

[candid gyro]

Rip any team with tank synergy

[wooden yarrow]

I think it becuase people don’t bother playing tank

[balmy wolf]

Yeah it sucks tbh

[wooden yarrow]

Even tho they so important

[willow drum]

Also apparently Shock are all cheering for Chengdu

[candid gyro]

Winston/rein main

[tacit skiff]

super is about to be benched or laid off

[ivory stag]

doesnt matter super is done after this year

[tacit skiff]

we don't need rein 1 tricks

[candid gyro]

Because I dont play fps games so my aim is doo doo

[weary widget]

honestly so sad

[wooden yarrow]

Shanghai cooler tho lol

[balmy wolf]

redesign doom and rein

[stuck radish]

hitscan players are gonna be in the highest demand ever

[willow drum]

than Chengdu?

[wooden yarrow]

Wait what why?

[tacit skiff]

Chengdu based

[willow drum]

Chengdu is the wacky team

[balmy wolf]

Prime shanghai vs prime shock, who's winning guys?

[ivory stag]

nah just run tracer sombra and hard dive

[willow drum]

Prime Shock

[tacit skiff]

Prime Shanghai

[north relic]

I would say shanghai

[weary widget]

oh yeah thats another reason why 5v5 is stupid, 2/3 of the cast are already DPS, why make more people play DPS???

[tacit skiff]

It's current Shanghai

[wooden yarrow]

Shock>Shanghai>chengduh

[balmy wolf]

Yh I suppose lol

[ivory stag]

you think they got a rope tied to soe leg to keep her from drifting to far?

[willow drum]

Would you consider this prime shanghai?

[balmy wolf]

Yh

[wooden yarrow]

Why is super done after this year?

[stuck radish]

prime shock would win

[weary widget]

nah bro, S1 SHD

[willow drum]

Because if so, I say Prime Shock would win

And what meta

[balmy wolf]

Honestly that would be a sight to see

[willow drum]

are we talking

[tacit skiff]

Shanghai literally hasn't lost a match this tournie

[balmy wolf]

Say the meta their teams play best

[stuck radish]

prime shock was the best team we've seen in the history of the league

[north relic]

Well shd is the best team rn and do you think prime shock would do well this year

[weary widget]

lets keep it that way

[ivory stag]

there was a group of ppl talking in here few days ago that he said he plans to retire after this year

[tacit skiff]

4-0, beat Atlanta, beat Chengdu
This is their chance to go 7-0

[willow drum]

Yes I think Prime Shock wouldn't do too bad either

[north relic]

But better than current sh?

[stuck radish]

prime shock would definitely do well this year

they would be #1 NA easily

[willow drum]

Hm. Same meta as last year grand finals

[willow drum]

I agree

[tacit skiff]

Chengdu about to pop heads

[stuck radish]

#1 in the league even

[north relic]

Best meta for shock is goats is it not

[wooden yarrow]

That sucks dick I was just getting into overwatch and I really liked him

[balmy wolf]

Personally I say shock.

[ivory stag]

just watch his twitch streams

[willow drum]

Is it?

[ivory stag]

they vbetter

[tacit skiff]

how is wya on that list

[willow drum]

I don't know I think both s2 and s3 metas were good

for shock

[balmy wolf]

Guess we'll never know :(

[stuck radish]

the best meta for shock rn would be double hitscan

[tacit skiff]

how is any Valiant player in a top 10 spot on any hero

[stuck radish]

they have ans glister

[weary widget]

no one else plays zen i guess

[north relic]

Wya top 5 flex support

[willow drum]

Yeah

[tacit skiff]

actually a good game mode
good job script writers

[willow drum]

chengdu might win eichenwalde

they just dont lose here

built different

[balmy wolf]

Gotta wait and see ig

[tacit skiff]

it's anyone's game

[willow drum]

hackfists

[tacit skiff]

both teams are really good

[willow drum]

nice

[tacit skiff]

yeah there's no way they're running doom

I was about to say

[willow drum]

ye

[tacit skiff]

bad start go back

[weary widget]

NICE

[willow drum]

LMAO

THE REAPER GUY

[weary widget]

the turret tho

[tacit skiff]

leave's mouse isn't working correctly
redo

[ivory stag]

reaper guy and his revolvers

[weary widget]

lol

[willow drum]

Fate Doubters??

[weary widget]

quick point A surely

[tacit skiff]

why is he staying torb?

[weary widget]

lets go

[raw ermine]

ult

[tacit skiff]

still tho

so many ways to avoid torb ult

especially with their comp

[raw ermine]

on a point, its harder

ok that core was shit

[weary widget]

"A point" or "a point"

[tacit skiff]

that ult literally did nothing

[ivory stag]

ana nade kinda dumb ngl

[weary widget]

cus they already lost it lol

[tacit skiff]

should've just swapped

[weary widget]

nah dont swap, throw the game for hunters :)))

[tacit skiff]

you should stop talking

[weary widget]

nah

lol

[balmy wolf]

HUGE

[willow drum]

As an Ana Main

[wooden yarrow]

THE FATE CARRIEEE

[willow drum]

I agree and disagree

at the same time

[tacit skiff]

"nah"
stops talking anyway

[weary widget]

??? lol this troll

[ivory stag]

the anti aspects are dumb

[tacit skiff]

quiet fiend

[willow drum]

It is but its what makes my hero

so good

[ivory stag]

yeah cause just spam throw it on cooldown lol

[tacit skiff]

has fleta died?

[willow drum]

not that easy tbh

[tacit skiff]

what is going on Chengdu?

[ivory stag]

look at monkey or hog throw look at group of enemies throw

[willow drum]

?

[weary widget]

did fleta dodge the emp with TP??

or did EMP just miss

[willow drum]

Omegalul Ga9a

Stop sleeping

[tacit skiff]

alright I clearly gotta take over for jinmu

[willow drum]

mate gets melotonin injected

[tacit skiff]

I'm omw

[willow drum]

for him

every minute

[tacit skiff]

gr

poor jinmu

[weary widget]

LETS GO

[ivory stag]

yeah hunters losing this they played it wrong

[willow drum]

Cant mirror em tbh

[willow drum]

Yo please.....

[willow tartan]

my favourite hero is the reaper guy

[willow drum]

the actual fan discord

[wooden yarrow]

Let’s gooo

[willow drum]

for Shanghai exists

[weary widget]

and?

[willow tartan]

cope

[willow drum]

Like can we keep this somewhat non biased

[tacit skiff]

why did Shanghai lose illos

[wooden yarrow]

Dude we’re 2 maps in and both teams have been rolled and each member of each team has carried

[willow tartan]

it's unbiased to say dragons will win 😎

[wooden yarrow]

Roller coaster of emotions

[weary widget]

🤝

[willow drum]

I guess

[tacit skiff]

ga9a yikes

[weary widget]

izayaki dps

[tacit skiff]

this match is unironically boring